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00:00:10Live from London this is BBC
00:00:12News. I'm Karin Giannone. The authorities authorities in Lithuania spend the
00:00:16the night searching for
00:00:21For debris after a drone entered EU airspace and was shot shot down by Nato jets. The co-founder
00:00:25co-founder of Anthropic says AI firms firms may need a compulsory kill
00:00:28kill switch to stop the technology
00:00:30technology spiralling out of control. control. The public inquiry into
00:00:33into how former nurse Lucy Letby Letby was able to murder seven babies
00:00:37babies and attempt to kill seven seven more is due to publish its
00:00:41its findings. I'm Sally Bundock coming
00:00:44coming up in business Labour market market under pressure as the number
00:00:46number of UK workers on the payroll
00:00:48payroll falls, especially in retail
00:00:51retail and hospitality. And Prince Prince Harry and Meghan's police
00:00:54police protection is to be reviewed reviewed as they change their children's
00:00:59children's school over security concerns.
00:01:09concerns. Hello. The President of
00:01:12of Lithuania says Nato fighter jets jets have shot down a drone that
00:01:16that entered the country's airspace airspace overnight. It's the latest
00:01:19latest security incident in the Baltic Baltic states since Russia launched
00:01:22launched its full-scale invasion invasion of Ukraine in 2022. In a
00:01:26a separate development, Poland's Poland's armed forces say they launched
00:01:29launched military operations to secure secure their airspace as a preventative
00:01:33preventative measure. It comes as
00:01:35as Moscow launches jet powered drone drone attacks on Ukraine. The head
00:01:39head of the country's state Post Post Office has told the BBC that
00:01:43that Russia is deliberately targeting targeting his branches and delivery
00:01:46delivery vans. Our diplomatic correspondent
00:01:49correspondent James Landale in Kyiv Kyiv explains more. Well, what we
00:01:52we know about this, this drone flying flying into Lithuanian airspace is
00:01:56is that it came from the West. It It came through Belarus. It was detected
00:02:00detected by Nato fighters. There's There's a whole separate Nato mission
00:02:03mission there to protect the Baltic Baltic states from this kind of thing.
00:02:06thing. The as you say, the drone drone was shot down. It landed in
00:02:09in a rural area in the sort of central central southern part of Lithuania.
00:02:13Lithuania. Now nobody knows the origin
00:02:16origin of this drone. But as you
00:02:17you say, the President of Lithuania, Lithuania, Mr Nauseda, said that
00:02:21that look, we know with increasing
00:02:22increasing Russian aggression, Lithuania
00:02:25Lithuania has to be protective of of these kinds of things. So the
00:02:28the hint that he's making is that that this was a Russian drone. James,
00:02:32James, how much concern is this causing causing these countries that border
00:02:36border Ukraine, which belong to the
00:02:38the EU and Nato? Well, I mean, look,
00:02:42look, this is a familiar occurrence occurrence now throughout this war, war, which we should remember is
00:02:45is now in its fifth year, there have
00:02:47have been drone incursions into Nato Nato territory and other European
00:02:51European countries. And those drones
00:02:54drones have been there for a variety variety of reasons. Sometimes it's
00:02:57it's just the spill-over of a conflict conflict in, in Europe, the fact
00:03:01fact that there are drones and missiles missiles in the skies, that means
00:03:03means sometimes they go wrong, sometimes sometimes they lose control, sometimes
00:03:06sometimes by mistake, sometimes deliberately deliberately as a result of electronic
00:03:09electronic countermeasures and air air defences. And sometimes drones drones can just fly off and they
00:03:13they just keep flying until they they are taken down and they go into
00:03:16into Nato territory. So that's just, just, you know, the spill-over of
00:03:19of war. But at the same time, Russia
00:03:23Russia has been deliberately launching launching drones into Nato territory
00:03:26territory to test Nato, to probe
00:03:27probe Nato, part of the whole sort
00:03:30sort of systemic attempt by Russia Russia to do this, whether it's in
00:03:33in the skies, whether it's under under the water, attacking undersea
00:03:36undersea cables, whether it's in in cyberspace and the information
00:03:39information space. I think these these drone incursions are seen as
00:03:42as part of that. Other times there there might be other reasons. If
00:03:45If you remember last week there was
00:03:48was a Russian drone detected in Moldova
00:03:50Moldova exactly at the same time time that President Zelensky was
00:03:53was on the tarmac at Chisinau airport
00:03:55airport preparing to fly to Canada. Canada. And his flight was delayed
00:03:59delayed because of that Russian incursion. incursion. Was that deliberate? Nobody
00:04:01Nobody knows. But this is a frequent
00:04:04frequent occurrence. James, inside inside Ukraine itself. Tell us about
00:04:07about how Russia is increasingly increasingly targeting softer infrastructure.
00:04:11infrastructure. We've seen those those attacks on trains. You've also
00:04:13also been looking at what it's doing
00:04:15doing to the postal network. Yeah,
00:04:20Yeah, look, we're at the middle of of a pretty substantial Russian escalation
00:04:23escalation at the moment. It began began at the end of August with the
00:04:27the attacks on Kyiv and elsewhere elsewhere moving from daytime attacks
00:04:30attacks to almost round the clock clock daytime attacks, greater use
00:04:34use of fast jet powered drones, more
00:04:37more attacks on civilian infrastructure
00:04:39infrastructure warehouses, businesses businesses obviously energy facilities
00:04:41facilities and as you say, trains trains and border positions that
00:04:44that we saw over the weekend. But
00:04:46But we've been out and talking to
00:04:49to people who work for the Postal
00:04:51Postal Service here, the State Postal
00:04:53Postal Service is a crucial part
00:04:56part of the Ukrainian state holding holding together this war torn country.
00:04:59country. It doesn't just deliver, deliver, you know, letters and parcels.
00:05:02parcels. This is a service that provides
00:05:05provides pensions in cash based societies. societies. It allows people to pay
00:05:09pay their own bills. It provides provides medicines and food to really
00:05:13really remote rural areas. And they
00:05:16they have been attacked by Russia Russia as well, not just the actual
00:05:19actual vans that the postmen and and women are using to deliver these
00:05:22these services, but also the postal
00:05:25postal services, the distribution distribution listed logistics centres
00:05:27centres and the like. And it's just
00:05:30just part of the warp and weft of
00:05:32of life here in Ukraine under attack
00:05:34attack from Russia. James Landale,
00:05:37Landale, the co-founder of one of of the world's biggest artificial
00:05:41artificial intelligence companies, companies, told the BBC that AI firms
00:05:44firms may need a compulsory kill
00:05:45kill switch to prevent the technology
00:05:48technology spiralling out of control. control. Anthropic Jack Clark says
00:05:52says AI is getting smarter and more more capable every few months, which
00:05:56which could become a major risk to
00:05:58to society. President Trump has angrily angrily rejected calls to slow down
00:06:02down the development of AI, describing describing fears that it poses a
00:06:05a threat to humanity as a big hoax.
00:06:08hoax. Our economics editor Faisal
00:06:11Faisal Islam reports. We've made made for complex. AI giant Anthropic
00:06:14Anthropic called to slow down the the AI race. A whistleblower and
00:06:18and safety experts at the company company said there was a 1 in 10
00:06:2110 chance or higher that the technology technology could kill all humans.
00:06:24humans. Their boss is this man Jack Jack Clark, a Brit and founder of
00:06:28of the company. Speaking exclusively exclusively to the BBC from Silicon
00:06:31Silicon Valley. How have you and and your industry let this happen?
00:06:35happen? What's happened is the technology technology has got substantially
00:06:38substantially more powerful and those those risks which were once academic
00:06:41academic or theorised, we can now now see the early signs of them.
00:06:45them. What do you specifically think? think? Here? Is the risk sort of
00:06:49of swarms of AI taking over the internet, internet, closing down power stations
00:06:52stations or wiping out financial financial institutions? I think it's
00:06:56it's time to sort of spell out what what it practically means. For basic
00:07:00basic risk is how well do you fancy fancy your chances at being able
00:07:03able to deal with the risks of a a system that is 100 times smarter
00:07:06smarter than the smartest person person on the planet? I think that
00:07:09that your chance of dealing with with that and getting out in a safe
00:07:13safe way is pretty low. So high level
00:07:16level you need to control AI as a a technology because you're making
00:07:19making things that might be smarter smarter than people, things that that are smarter than people could
00:07:23could be really, really, really dangerous. dangerous. It raises the question question of some sort of kill switch.
00:07:27switch. I mean, have you guys got
00:07:29got one? Can you pull the plug? I
00:07:32I think most most labs have different different ways of being able to pull pull the plug. And yes, of course
00:07:36course we have systems in place for for this, but this is the kind of
00:07:39of thing that you want to feed into into the larger policy conversation.
00:07:42conversation. Should you mandate mandate that companies definitely definitely have a kill switch? And
00:07:45And is that kill switch verifiable verifiable by a third party? I think think that's the kind of thing that
00:07:49that society is going to want to to know and might want to eventually
00:07:52eventually pass rules around. But But it may already be too late. It's
00:07:56It's not too late and I don't believe
00:07:58believe that we're yet at this maximal
00:08:01maximal kind of danger zone. But But we are close enough that we need
00:08:04need to be taking this seriously seriously and having national level
00:08:08level public conversations about about it. The bosses of the rest
00:08:11rest of the industry have joined joined Anthropic from Elon Musk and
00:08:14and ChatGPT maker OpenAI, agreeing agreeing on some sort of slowdown.
00:08:18slowdown. President Trump, on the the other hand, did not criticising
00:08:21criticising the company, saying fears fears were a hoax and that the only
00:08:24only control needed was him. We're
00:08:26We're seeing increasing calls for
00:08:30for nations to get together and establish establish some base rules around
00:08:33around this, and this has happened happened in the past with technologies technologies which we call dual use
00:08:37use that can be used for good and and ill. And let's not forget AI
00:08:41AI is going to deliver extraordinary extraordinary benefits to us, but
00:08:43but we need to be very alert to the
00:08:46the harms to. Right now, AI investment investment seems to be boosting the
00:08:49the UK economy and there are some some promises of AI cures for cancer.
00:08:53cancer. Jack Clark team, though,
00:08:55though, said unchecked the economic economic impact could be unprecedented.
00:08:58unprecedented. White collar unemployment.
00:09:00unemployment. When you put it all all together, is it really worth
00:09:04worth it? Does it cause you sleepless
00:09:05sleepless nights? What might happen?
00:09:08happen? I mean, of course we have have to get this right. I think if
00:09:12if we get this technology right,
00:09:14right, we are going to change the
00:09:16the world in so many positive ways.
00:09:18ways. We are going to genuinely change change the face of science, change
00:09:22change the face of healthcare. We're We're going to expand the frontiers
00:09:24frontiers of what you or I or any any of our children could ever do.
00:09:27do. And if we get it wrong, we are
00:09:31are going to massively disrupt the the economy and misery people and
00:09:35and potentially cause harm. The message message that the world still has
00:09:38has choices over the pace of artificial artificial intelligence. But time
00:09:41time is running out. Faisal Islam,
00:09:44Islam, BBC News. Tech expert Lisa
00:09:46Lisa Martin gave her reaction to
00:09:48to that kill switch statement. What
00:09:51What we need globally when we think think about AI, I really leaned into
00:09:55into what Jack Clark said because
00:09:58because I think regardless, every every company needs an ability to
00:10:02to stop AI. I do think the kill switch
00:10:05switch term, I think it makes it
00:10:07it sound simpler than it is. But
00:10:09But if you distil this issue, the
00:10:11the biggest issue here is human control. control. We know that AI is moving
00:10:15moving so fast right from answering
00:10:18answering our questions to now taking
00:10:20taking actions for us with AI. So
00:10:22So we're not just giving these systems systems more intelligence any more,
00:10:25more, we're giving them more authority.
00:10:27authority. And authority is is access
00:10:30access to data, to software, to networks.
00:10:33networks. So what I want to know
00:10:34know from every tech company is what
00:10:37what can your AI access? What is
00:10:39is it authorised to do and not to
00:10:41to do? Who can revoke that authority?
00:10:45authority? And can you contain it it or stop it if something goes wrong?
00:10:48wrong? I think Jack Clark makes a a very important point. Like don't
00:10:51don't just take the AI company's company's word for it. And I believe
00:10:54believe this firmly test it right, right, audit it independently verify
00:10:57verify it. I say yes because if we
00:11:00we give AI the authority to act, act, which we are doing more and
00:11:03and more humans have got to remain
00:11:06remain the authority to stop it.
00:11:08it. Well, a senior UK government government minister will address
00:11:12address concerns about the pace of
00:11:13of AI development later. Here's our our chief political correspondent
00:11:17correspondent Henry Zeffman. We're We're going to hear today from the the most senior government minister
00:11:21minister yet here in the UK to engage engage with this debate. That's Louise
00:11:25Louise Haig. She's Andy Burnham's Burnham's deputy. She's giving a a speech to the annual conference
00:11:29conference of the Trades Union Congress Congress today. Actually, Andy Burnham
00:11:31Burnham was meant to be giving this this speech, but his father died.
00:11:34died. So she's giving this speech speech and she will say that the
00:11:37the government must heed the warnings warnings of those who are at the
00:11:41the forefront of developing this this technology. And she'll say that
00:11:43that the government is ready to work work with international partners
00:11:46partners to prioritise public safety safety and national security. Of
00:11:50Of course, working with international international partners would principally principally mean working with the
00:11:54the United States. And President President Trump said yesterday that that the idea that AI would take
00:11:57take over the world and destroy humanity
00:12:00humanity is a hoax. So it's a little little hard to know in practical practical terms what working with
00:12:04with the US would mean. There is is a role that the UK could play.
00:12:07play. We have the AI Security Institute Institute here, which was founded
00:12:10founded under Rishi Sunak's government
00:12:12government back in 2023. But there there is a recognition from ministers
00:12:15ministers I've spoken to here in in the UK that realistically this
00:12:19this is for the US and for China
00:12:21China to sort or as it may be not
00:12:24not sort. Henry, another story that's
00:12:26that's been dominating politics day
00:12:29day after day, the huge donations
00:12:31donations from two billionaires to to Reform UK. What are we expecting
00:12:35expecting to happen around the rules rules on political donations? Let's
00:12:39Let's just emphasise again that huge
00:12:42huge is an understatement. £36 million million each from Ben Delo and from
00:12:46from Christopher Harborne both to
00:12:47to Reform UK announced on successive
00:12:50successive days that is far bigger. bigger. Each of them individually
00:12:53individually than the previous record. record. Donations from an individual individual to political party. I
00:12:56I think the previous record was £10
00:12:58£10 million. So far, far, far bigger.
00:13:01bigger. The government was already already and Parliament was already
00:13:05already looking at changes to the the rules around the amounts that
00:13:07that donors can give to British political political parties. But they were
00:13:10were looking at changes to the amounts amounts that Brits living overseas
00:13:14overseas can give to political parties. parties. What complicates things things here is that Ben Delo and
00:13:18and Christopher Harborne were both both living overseas, but they returned
00:13:22returned to the UK. Reform UK is is adamant that they return to the
00:13:25the UK in time not to be captured
00:13:27captured by at least the legislation, legislation, as it is currently drafted.
00:13:31drafted. That's going through Parliament. Parliament. But what the government
00:13:32government is now looking at is beefing
00:13:35beefing up the definition of residency
00:13:37residency required not to have your your donations capped in the way
00:13:40way that Brits living overseas are are going to have their donations
00:13:43donations capped. They're talking talking about potentially defining
00:13:46defining residency more along the the lines of how it's defined for for the purposes of tax or immigration
00:13:50immigration or welfare, which is
00:13:52is much more onerous than simply simply being based here in the UK.
00:13:56UK. So we don't know where this is is going to end up, but it does seem
00:13:59seem possible and I put it no stronger stronger than that, but possible possible that the law will change
00:14:03change in such a way that Reform Reform UK are not able to keep these
00:14:07these donations and if so, expect expect an absolutely furious political
00:14:11political row. Henry Zeffman the
00:14:14the findings of a UK public inquiry inquiry into how Lucy Letby was able
00:14:17able to repeatedly murder and harm harm babies will be published later.
00:14:21later. The Thirlwall Inquiry was was set up to look into what happened
00:14:24happened at the Countess of Chester Chester Hospital between 2015 and
00:14:27and 16, while Letby was working as
00:14:29as a nurse in the neonatal unit.
00:14:32unit. Now aged 36, she is serving
00:14:34serving 15 whole life prison terms. terms. The inquiry wasn't tasked
00:14:38tasked with examining Letby guilt.
00:14:40guilt. Lauren Moss has this report. report. The offences of murder and
00:14:44and attempted murder have been identified identified and you have been identified
00:14:47identified as a suspect of these these offences. Lucy Letby, seen
00:14:50seen here on police body camera footage footage arrested at her home on suspicion
00:14:54suspicion of murdering vulnerable vulnerable babies on a neonatal hospital
00:14:58hospital ward. You're going to have have to go to the police station station to be questioned about these
00:15:01these allegations. Being a nurse nurse was her dream job. Is it a
00:15:05a job that you enjoyed? I love my
00:15:11my job. She would go on to be convicted
00:15:14convicted of murdering seven babies, babies, making her the UK's most
00:15:17most prolific child serial killer killer of modern times. Now, the
00:15:21the findings of an inquiry looking looking into how Letby was able to
00:15:25to harm those in her care but not
00:15:27not reviewing her convictions, will
00:15:29will be published later. This whole whole process has been very, very
00:15:32very difficult and at times very, very, very traumatic for them. Lawyer
00:15:36Lawyer Richard Scorer represents
00:15:38represents some of the babies families.
00:15:41families. It's very clear that there
00:15:42there were serious failings and the the responsibility for ensuring that
00:15:46that the police were brought in and and brought in at an early stage
00:15:49stage when it was clear that there there was potential criminal activity,
00:15:53activity, that responsibility ultimately ultimately rested with the senior
00:15:55senior managers and they failed.
00:15:58failed. Between June 2015 and 2016, 2016, a number of babies collapsed collapsed and died at the Countess
00:16:01Countess of Chester Hospital. In
00:16:04In August 2023, Lucy Letby was found
00:16:06found guilty of murdering seven babies babies and the attempted murder of
00:16:10of six others. A year later, she she was convicted of the attempted
00:16:13attempted murder of a seventh baby baby and is serving 15 whole life
00:16:17life sentences in prison. The government government launched the Thirlwall
00:16:20Thirlwall Inquiry into what happened happened and hearings began in September
00:16:23September 2024. They concluded in in March last year and the report
00:16:27report will be published later. It
00:16:29It is not the actions of Lucy Letby
00:16:32Letby that I am scrutinising. It
00:16:34It is the actions of all those who
00:16:37who were in the hospital. What they they did at the time. In the light
00:16:40light of what they knew at the time time and in the light of what they
00:16:44they should have known at the time. time. The inquiry has taken place.
00:16:48place. While a campaign by some to
00:16:50to prove Lucy Libby's innocence has has grown in the background. Her
00:16:53Her legal team wants her convictions convictions reviewed and a group
00:16:56group of medical experts have questioned questioned the evidence. In summary,
00:17:00summary, ladies and gentlemen, we we did not find any murders. The
00:17:03The families of Letby's victims who who suffered at the Countess of Chester
00:17:07Chester Hospital. They say they hope hope the inquiry leads to lasting
00:17:10lasting change. The legal reality reality is that Lucy Letby has been
00:17:14been convicted. We have these long,
00:17:16long, often long running and often
00:17:19often expensive inquiries, and they're they're very important for learning
00:17:21learning lessons. But often the recommendations recommendations are never implemented.
00:17:25implemented. And it's a betrayal betrayal not just of the people who've
00:17:29who've suffered in these cases, families families like those I represent.
00:17:32represent. It's actually betrayal betrayal of the public. The inquiry's
00:17:35inquiry's conclusions will be published published this afternoon. Lauren
00:17:39Lauren Moss, BBC News. You're with
00:17:41with BBC News still to come. Prince Prince Harry and Meghan's police
00:17:45police protection is to be reviewed reviewed as they change their children's
00:17:49children's school over security concerns.
00:17:52concerns. Around the world and across across the UK.
00:18:56as we follow every twist of the Premier Premier League season here on BBC
00:18:59BBC News. This is BBC News. It's
00:19:06It's emerged that the Duke and Duchess Duchess of Sussex have pulled their
00:19:10their children out of their new school school here in the UK, just two days
00:19:14days into term. A spokesperson said said the decision was taken after
00:19:17after a discussion with the family's family's protection team about the
00:19:21the practicalities of their original original arrangements. The children children are now at another school.
00:19:24school. It's understood Prince Harry's Harry's publicly funded security
00:19:28security is to be subject to a fresh
00:19:29fresh review, as Ellie Price reports. reports. It was the first glimpse
00:19:33glimpse into the new life of the
00:19:35the Sussex family. An Instagram video
00:19:38video posted by Meghan, Duchess of of Sussex showing five-year-old Lilibet
00:19:41Lilibet and seven-year-old Archie. Archie. Her faces hidden enjoying
00:19:45enjoying a trip out. But now a spokesperson spokesperson for the family has confirmed
00:19:48confirmed the children have had to to change schools. Just days into
00:19:51into the new school term. The locations locations of the schools were of
00:19:55of course kept private, but even even so, it's understood that there
00:19:58there were concerns from the family's family's security team about the
00:20:02the practicalities of their first first choice. Prince Harry and his
00:20:05his wife Meghan lost their publicly publicly funded security when they
00:20:08they stepped back from royal duties duties and moved to the US in January
00:20:12January 2020. The Duke of Sussex Sussex appealed that decision, made
00:20:15made by Ravec, an independent body body overseen by the Home Office
00:20:19Office in the court last May and and lost. For the time being. It's
00:20:23It's impossible for me to take my my family back to the UK. I can't
00:20:26can't see a world in which I would
00:20:29would be bringing my wife and children children back to the UK at this point point it's totally normal. But this
00:20:33this summer the family did come back back first on holiday where Harry
00:20:36Harry appeared at various charity charity events. And now for what's
00:20:39what's been described as an extended extended period of time. As a result,
00:20:43result, it's understood the Sussexes Sussexes will be given a review of
00:20:45of their publicly funded security
00:20:47security now that they are full-time full-time residents rather than visitors.
00:20:51visitors. The King has made clear clear the pair will not be working
00:20:54working royals and will not carry carry out official engagements, but
00:20:57but their security may yet be stepped stepped up as if they were Ellie
00:21:01Ellie Price. BBC News. Well, let's let's speak to journalist and royal
00:21:05royal commentator Afia Hagan. Afia, Afia, nice to see you. Thanks for
00:21:08for being with us. Just remind us us what the current security arrangements
00:21:12arrangements are for the couple and and the family. Well, at the moment
00:21:16moment the Sussexes have private
00:21:19private security that is funded by by themselves. They have that with
00:21:21with them every day. They also have have a phone number of someone from
00:21:25from the Metropolitan Police should should they need anything. Additionally.
00:21:28Additionally. OK. And we now learn learn that that is all going to be
00:21:32be reviewed. It was last reviewed reviewed around six years ago, I
00:21:35I believe. Just tell us the circumstances circumstances and why you think this.
00:21:39this. This really does need looking looking at again. I mean there's
00:21:43there's a real difference between
00:21:47between 2020 and 2026. I mean, then then Harry and Meghan stepped back
00:21:50back as working royals no longer longer living in the UK. So of course
00:21:54course there wasn't really any need need for them to have permanent security
00:21:57security provided by Ravec because because they no longer lived in the
00:21:59the UK. Harry coming back for a visit.
00:22:03visit. Yes, he perhaps could have have had security provided by Ravec
00:22:06Ravec on a case by case basis. But
00:22:08But no, Harry and Meghan and the the children are resident in the
00:22:12the UK for an extended period of
00:22:14of time. So of course their status status has changed, which means that
00:22:17that Ravec doing their job needs
00:22:19needs to review where the Sussexes Sussexes are now, what the threat
00:22:23threat is levelled against them and
00:22:26and what security needs to be provided. provided. This is not about Prince
00:22:29Prince Harry or Meghan. The Duchess Duchess of Sussex being working royals.
00:22:33royals. It's about who they are in
00:22:35in public life. I mean, they can can be described as private citizens.
00:22:39citizens. But Prince Harry still still remains the second son of the
00:22:43the King. He has had, you know, six
00:22:45six plots levelled against him that
00:22:48that it was discovered. Five of them
00:22:50them were jihadist plots. One of of them was from right wing actors.
00:22:54actors. You know, over the years years they've had many threats levelled
00:22:58levelled against both Harry and Meghan. Meghan. I mean, you've got a neo-Nazi
00:23:02neo-Nazi who's in prison at the moment,
00:23:03moment, was in prison in 2019 for
00:23:06for posting a picture of Prince Harry
00:23:08Harry with a gun to his head, calling
00:23:11calling him a race traitor. You know know that that's a direct threat
00:23:13threat to both Prince Harry and Meghan, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex. So
00:23:16So now where we are is Ravec reviewing
00:23:19reviewing the Sussexes security situation situation as to where they are now,
00:23:23now, which is them being resident resident in the United Kingdom for
00:23:26for this extended period and seeing seeing what security they may need.
00:23:30need. So so you think even though though they don't carry out official
00:23:34official duties, they're not working working Royals. There should be an
00:23:37an element of publicly funded protection. protection. Just briefly in the time
00:23:40time we've got. What do you think? think? What do you know about the
00:23:43the circumstances that have led to to them having to pull their children
00:23:45children out of that first school? school? Yes, absolutely. That was
00:23:49was on security concerns. It was was to do with the school on going
00:23:52going from to and from school. Of Of course, you can vary the route,
00:23:56route, but the end and the beginning beginning of that journey remains remains the same. And there were
00:24:00were some issues about cars being being able to remain in convoy. And
00:24:03And so they had to pull their children children out of school. And remember remember at school you're going to
00:24:07to have parents and groups and you you can keep it as private as possible, possible, but people are still going
00:24:11going to find out that they are there. there. So security concerns meant
00:24:14meant that they had to change schools schools for the children. OK. Afia
00:24:17Afia Hagan, royal commentator and
00:24:19and journalist thank you very much.
00:24:22much. Plenty of news about the job job situation here in the UK. Sally
00:24:26Sally is here to tell us the latest latest figures which have just come come out. Yeah, they have indeed.
00:24:30indeed. So it shows that overall overall unemployment hasn't shifted shifted in, in the three months to
00:24:34to the end of July. It's still sitting
00:24:37sitting at 4.9%. But when you look look at the detail, that's where where you find what's going on in
00:24:40in our jobs market. It shows it's it's still really challenging and
00:24:43and it's still really tough, especially especially for young people. So the
00:24:47the area where we saw the number number of people in payroll, IE those
00:24:50those who were on the payroll of of businesses that's been going down,
00:24:54down, especially in the area of retail retail and hospitality, which is
00:24:58is where many young people tend to to get their first job. So those
00:25:02those numbers of jobs available is is is reducing that number has gone
00:25:05gone down in terms of those who are are on the payroll, but also the
00:25:08the number of vacancies available
00:25:09available is at the lowest level
00:25:12level outside of the pandemic. So So it just paints a picture of how
00:25:16how hugely difficult it is, especially especially for those who are looking looking for work, especially for
00:25:20for young people. But what's interesting interesting as well about this is
00:25:24is the average earnings number, which
00:25:26which came in at 3.8%, which didn't
00:25:28didn't change either. But this is is the number that's likely to mean
00:25:31mean an increase in state pensions pensions from April next year is
00:25:34is going to be at that level 3.9%,
00:25:363.9%, I believe. And that's because because the government's got this
00:25:40this commitment to the so-called so-called triple lock for state pensioners,
00:25:43pensioners, meaning they either get get an increase of the same rate
00:25:47rate as average earnings, the same
00:25:49same rate of inflation, or at 2.5%, 2.5%, depending on which one is higher.
00:25:52higher. Will certainly average earnings earnings is higher. And that's quite
00:25:56quite a big increase for pensioners. pensioners. And that will make things
00:25:59things very tough for the Chancellor. Chancellor. So there's quite a lot
00:26:02lot to digest in these numbers today. today. You've given us quite a lot lot already. Thank you very much
00:26:05much Sally. We'll see you very soon. soon. Thanks for being
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