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00:00:13Live from London. This is BBC News. I'm Sarah Campbell. The King
00:00:17King issues an unusually pointed pointed response after Earl Spencer,
00:00:20Spencer, Princess Diana's brother, brother, makes fresh claims about
00:00:22about him in his new book. Microsoft's
00:00:24Microsoft's head of AI tells the the BBC his competitors approach
00:00:27approach to training their models models could have a disastrous impact
00:00:31impact on the well-being of humanity.
00:00:33humanity. I think that if we all
00:00:36all create AI that are able to act
00:00:39act autonomously, that can define define their own objectives, we're
00:00:43we're essentially ceding a new silicon silicon species which will no doubt
00:00:47doubt compete with us for resources. resources. All eyes on the Bank of
00:00:50of England. With inflation on the the rise, what will Andrew Bailey
00:00:53Bailey and his team decide on interest
00:00:56interest rates? I'm Sally Bundock Bundock we'll have more on that in
00:00:59in business. Also, we're trying the the latest innovation in eyewear
00:01:02eyewear with the promise to augment
00:01:05augment your reality. And is there
00:01:09there a secret to a long life? Talking Talking Movies speaks to a filmmaker
00:01:12filmmaker about the ever changing
00:01:14changing title of the oldest living
00:01:17living person. Hello to you. Buckingham
00:01:28Buckingham Palace has rejected claims claims about the King made by Princess
00:01:31Princess Diana's brother Earl Spencer. Spencer. In his new memoir. In a
00:01:34a Daily Mail serialisation of his his new book, due to be released
00:01:38released next week, Charles Spencer Spencer said that after the death
00:01:41death of his sister in 1997, the
00:01:43the King told him that the then Princess
00:01:45Princess of Wales would be forgotten
00:01:47forgotten soon enough. Our senior senior royal correspondent Daniela
00:01:51Daniela Relph reports. It is the the content of Earl Spencer's book
00:01:55book about his sister that has driven driven Buckingham Palace to issue
00:01:58issue an unusually robust response. response. Earl Spencer writes of
00:02:02of a row with the King back in 1997,
00:02:041997, when the King was Prince of of Wales after he challenged him
00:02:07him on the decision to allow Princes Princes William and Harry to walk
00:02:11walk behind their mother's coffin coffin at her funeral, something something he said his sister would
00:02:15would not have wanted. Earl Spencer
00:02:17Spencer claims the King replied angrily,
00:02:19angrily, saying that Diana would
00:02:21would be forgotten soon enough. The The response from Buckingham Palace,
00:02:24Palace, a sign of the fury behind
00:02:27behind palace walls. An official
00:02:30official spokesman said while we we do not comment on books as a matter
00:02:33matter of principle, His Majesty Majesty is mindful that the pain
00:02:37pain of fraternal grief can cloud
00:02:39cloud reason, affect judgement and
00:02:41and colour memory in ways others
00:02:44others do not recognise. Even many
00:02:46many years after such a loss. Not
00:02:48Not since the late Queen's statement statement that recollections may
00:02:52may vary after the Duke and Duchess Duchess of Sussex's interview with
00:02:55with Oprah Winfrey has a royal statement
00:02:58statement packed so much punch. It's
00:03:02It's been a challenging few weeks weeks for the Royal family, many
00:03:05many of whom will be out on official
00:03:08official duty today. As will Prince
00:03:11Prince Harry, who'll be in London London for an awards dinner for the
00:03:14the Invictus Games for wounded military
00:03:16military personnel. His first public
00:03:19public charity engagement since moving moving back to the UK with his wife
00:03:22wife and children. Since inception, inception, Prince Harry has been
00:03:26been a spectacular champion for the
00:03:28the Invictus Games Foundation. He's
00:03:31He's been a visionary for the Invictus Invictus Movement throughout and
00:03:35and having him closer to our HQ here
00:03:38here in London is incredible. Come
00:03:41Come on you come on. The return of of Harry and Meghan has brought with
00:03:45with it a degree of drama over their
00:03:48their security. The safety of their their children on the school run
00:03:51run and speculation over why they
00:03:53they have come back to the UK. The
00:03:57The return of Sussexes really is
00:04:00is shows just how much they ran out
00:04:02out of road in Montecito. And they they had run out of road, do you
00:04:06you think? Totally run out of road.
00:04:07road. They seemed to be unable to
00:04:11to just simply quietly and with composure
00:04:14composure examine their options and and follow a route. You know, they
00:04:17they they crash into things, you you know, all the time. How much
00:04:21much my husband loves bagpipes. All
00:04:24All of these engagements have been been planned well in advance. But
00:04:27But with Harry and Meghan now back back in the UK, the days where we
00:04:30we see the working royals out on
00:04:32on the same day as the non-working
00:04:35non-working ones will become more
00:04:36more common. Daniela Relph, BBC News.
00:04:41News. Well, Noor Nanji is our royal royal correspondent and she told
00:04:44told me why the comments from the the Palace about a book like Earl
00:04:48Earl Spencer's is so rare. It's really
00:04:50really unusual. To have the palace palace comment in such strong terms,
00:04:54terms, and I think it's a sense of
00:04:56of the strength of feeling on this
00:04:58this one with Earl Spencer's book. book. The extract of that first extract
00:05:02extract of that being published yesterday. yesterday. And you don't normally
00:05:06normally get Buckingham Palace saying saying anything in such strong terms.
00:05:09terms. It's not completely unprecedented. unprecedented. We know that, for
00:05:12for example, when the Duke and Duchess Duchess of Sussex gave their interview
00:05:16interview to Oprah Winfrey, we had, had, of course, the late Queen's
00:05:18Queen's famous words that recollections
00:05:20recollections may vary, but this this time around again we're getting
00:05:23getting a statement in quite strong strong words. And I think it was
00:05:26was a sense from royal aides that
00:05:29that they very much were pushing
00:05:30pushing back on. Earl Spencer was
00:05:33was saying about King Charles and and very much wanting to correct
00:05:36correct the narrative on this and and therefore felt that they couldn't
00:05:39couldn't do their usual never complain, complain, never explain mantra. And
00:05:43And I think where it all goes from from here, well, of course this is is just the first extract, as I say,
00:05:47say, the book in full by Earl Spencer Spencer is going to be published
00:05:50published next week. And we know know that while we haven't read it
00:05:53it ourselves, it's expected to be
00:05:54be highly critical of the royal family. family. So you can expect further
00:05:58further damaging claims and revelations revelations in the days to come.
00:06:01come. More to come. Indeed. Really Really busy day for the Royals. Nor
00:06:05Nor so we've got King Charles at at the AI Summit in Scotland. Prince
00:06:07Prince and Princess of Wales also also in Scotland and first time we've
00:06:11we've seen this for a while out and
00:06:13and about Prince Harry. That's right.
00:06:16right. A really busy and a crowded
00:06:18crowded day for the Royals. Out and and about on those separate engagements.
00:06:21engagements. The King is going to to be in the Dumfries House in Ayrshire
00:06:25Ayrshire where he's going to be attending attending this AI summit. You've
00:06:28You've got the Prince and Princess Princess of Wales who are going to
00:06:31to be on the Isle of Bute, and then, then, of course you've got the non-working
00:06:34non-working royal in the mix. Prince Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, Sussex, who's going to be in London
00:06:38London for an event which is linked linked to the Invictus Games, which which is something, of course that's
00:06:42that's very important to him. And And of course, last week we had that
00:06:45that letter, didn't we, from the the King. King Charles making it
00:06:48it clear that Prince Harry and Meghan, Meghan, now that they're back here
00:06:51here in the UK., they very much remain remain non-working royals that when
00:06:54when they're out and about on engagements, engagements, they are private citizens.
00:06:58citizens. But notwithstanding all all of that, I think an event days
00:07:01days like this, you will get a sense sense of the sort of complicated
00:07:04complicated nature of those royal royal relationships. Having said said all of that, I do think you're
00:07:08you're right. This may all be overshadowed
00:07:11overshadowed by this war of words words between the Palace and Earl
00:07:15Earl Spencer. That was Noor Nanji, Nanji, our royal correspondent outside
00:07:18outside Buckingham Palace. As she she was mentioning, King Charles
00:07:21Charles has called on AI giants to
00:07:23to keep tech in service of humanity humanity ahead of him chairing a
00:07:27a summit with industry leaders. Concerns
00:07:30Concerns about the existential threat threat of artificial intelligence intelligence have intensified in
00:07:33in recent weeks, with several instances
00:07:36instances of bad actors using AI AI models for weapons development
00:07:39development and fraud. Mustafa Suleyman,
00:07:42Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, has
00:07:44has told the BBC Radio 4 Today Programme
00:07:48Programme that this is a warning warning shot moment in the development development of AI, and there's every
00:07:52every risk that we might lose control
00:07:53control of it unless it is regulated.
00:07:56regulated. I think that if we all
00:07:59all create AI that are able to act
00:08:01act autonomously, that can define define their own objectives, that
00:08:05that can earn money, that can own
00:08:07own assets, that could run businesses.
00:08:10businesses. We're essentially seeding seeding a new silicon species, which
00:08:13which will no doubt compete with with us for resources no matter how
00:08:17how much it cares about humanity
00:08:18humanity and loves us, which is,
00:08:22is, I think, Anthropic's intention. intention. I think that is a mistaken
00:08:26mistaken and misguided. But we have have to empirically test it. And
00:08:28And so if they believe that this this is a safer route to developing
00:08:32developing AI's, then they have to to share the data to prove that.
00:08:35that. New silicon species is a chilling chilling phrase. It will make people
00:08:39people think of science fiction. fiction. You mean that, don't you?
00:08:42you? You mean that there could be
00:08:44be a competitor species created by
00:08:48by man, perhaps more powerful than
00:08:50than man? We've just witnessed a
00:08:53a watershed moment in the development
00:08:56development of AI and a model that
00:08:58that was being trained by OpenAI
00:09:01OpenAI inadvertently hacked into
00:09:03into Hugging Face, which is a public
00:09:06public website that runs evaluations
00:09:08evaluations and benchmarks for testing
00:09:10testing these agents. The swarm of
00:09:14of agents co-ordinated together.
00:09:16together. They organised themselves themselves into hierarchies. They
00:09:19They created a division of labour, labour, and so they've developed
00:09:23developed very, very complex behaviour.
00:09:25behaviour. Now the good news is this
00:09:28this was OpenAI developing a model
00:09:30model deliberately with the guardrails guardrails turned off. And they were
00:09:33were doing that to try and stress stress test it and learn about its
00:09:37its boundaries and limitations. I I just wonder if you ever worry you've
00:09:40you've helped create something that that we're losing control of. I think think as we've seen, there's every
00:09:44every risk that we might lose control
00:09:46control of it. But our job is to
00:09:50to contain technologies and align align them so that we get the best
00:09:53best out of them. If we didn't have have any air traffic control regulation,
00:09:56regulation, planes would be hitting hitting each other in the sky. When
00:09:59When we introduced seatbelts, we we saved millions of lives. The purpose
00:10:03purpose of regulation is to shape
00:10:05shape and sculpt technology so that that it delivers more good than harm.
00:10:09harm. And that's the moment that that we're currently now in. So I
00:10:12I think it's right to be concerned, concerned, as I said, or worried
00:10:15worried or alarmed as you wish. But But it's also right to be optimistic
00:10:18optimistic about the benefits and and to have everybody focus now on
00:10:21on the challenge of governing and
00:10:23and shaping this technology. And And that was Mustafa Suleyman CEO
00:10:27CEO of Microsoft AI, the Bank of
00:10:30of England will make its latest decision
00:10:32decision on interest rates this lunchtime, lunchtime, and it's widely expected
00:10:35expected to hold the cost of borrowing borrowing in today's meeting, despite
00:10:39despite facing an increasing rate rate of price rises. The latest figures,
00:10:42figures, out on Wednesday show that
00:10:45that inflation hit 3.1% in August, August, the highest level for five
00:10:48five months, driven largely by increases
00:10:51increases in fuel costs. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve, the
00:10:54the US central bank, has raised interest interest rates for the first time
00:10:57time in more than three years to to curb stubbornly rising prices.
00:11:01prices. The Fed raised its benchmark
00:11:04benchmark rate by a quarter of a a percentage point and indicated
00:11:08indicated it could do so again before before the end of the year. Federal
00:11:11Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Warsh Warsh says the American economy is
00:11:14is broadly in good shape, but inflation
00:11:16inflation has been too high for too
00:11:18too long. Here's Sarah Smith. The The guy Donald Trump handpicked to
00:11:22to run America's central bank has has just done the very thing the
00:11:26the President did not want him to to do. So why has Kevin Warsh just
00:11:30just put interest rates up? Well,
00:11:33Well, it's partly Donald Trump's Trump's own fault. The increase in
00:11:35in the price of oil caused by the
00:11:37the war in Iran is one of the reasons
00:11:40reasons behind the rate rise. It It is the Federal Reserve's job to
00:11:43to keep inflation down. So that means means if prices are going up, they
00:11:47they are more likely to put interest interest rates up. Donald Trump wants
00:11:51wants low interest rates because because then consumers who would
00:11:54would be spending less on credit credit cards, loans, mortgages, things
00:11:57things like that would feel better better about their money and about about the economy. And that might
00:12:01might make them more likely to vote vote for his Republican candidates candidates in November's mid-term
00:12:05mid-term elections. He will see rates
00:12:07rates going up as a blow to his election election prospects. Interest rates
00:12:10rates are too high. They're not appropriate.
00:12:13appropriate. And I told I talked talked to Kevin and I said, you might
00:12:16might as well vote with the board board because it's not going to matter. matter. The President tried to bully
00:12:20bully the last fed chair into lowering lowering rates. He called Jerome
00:12:24Jerome Powell a total loser and a
00:12:26a moron. The administration launched launched a criminal investigation investigation into him, even though
00:12:30though they've now dropped that. that. In May, the President got to
00:12:33to pick the new fed chair, Kevin Kevin Warsh, and he's still not getting
00:12:37getting what he wants. After today's today's announcement, Donald Trump
00:12:39Trump was posting on social media media demanding rates have to be
00:12:43be lowered. And it was his own candidate candidate who defied him by doing
00:12:46doing the opposite, by putting them them up. And worse than that, he
00:12:49he also said he might do the same same again before the end of the
00:12:53the year. And that was Sarah Smith. Smith. Now in Russia, tomorrow is
00:12:57is the start of three days of voting
00:12:59voting in the country's parliamentary parliamentary elections, the first
00:13:01first since Russia's full-scale invasion invasion of Ukraine. Critics dismissed
00:13:05dismissed the vote as neither free free nor transparent, but the Kremlin
00:13:09Kremlin is expected to use it to to claim that the country is united
00:13:12united behind the policies of President President Putin. From Moscow, our
00:13:15our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg Rosenberg reports. Ultimate power
00:13:19power in Russia lies right here in
00:13:22in the Kremlin. But just across the
00:13:24the road there is a parliament, the
00:13:27the Duma, and it's election time. time. So what is a parliamentary
00:13:29parliamentary election like now in
00:13:32in Russia? Well, on TV we've seen
00:13:36seen election debates sort of none none of the candidates turned up
00:13:39up for this one. And there has been
00:13:43been some campaigning. We caught caught up with the Communist Party
00:13:46Party chief at a bakery. At times, times, though, it's been hard to
00:13:49to tell the difference between the
00:13:51the ten parties that have been allowed allowed onto the ballot. None of
00:13:55of them criticise President Putin Putin or the war in Ukraine. And
00:13:59And if the political process feels feels rather orchestrated, keep in
00:14:03in mind that the political system system in Russia is often referred
00:14:05referred to as managed democracy, democracy, where the Kremlin does
00:14:09does the managing. And I think the the Kremlin will try to use this
00:14:12this election to claim that the country
00:14:14country is united behind the President
00:14:16President and behind the war. There
00:14:20There are some individual candidates candidates in some seats calling
00:14:22calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine, Ukraine, but their party, which is
00:14:26is called Yabloko, which is anti-war, anti-war, isn't allowed to take part
00:14:30part in this election as a party party in its own right. It was struck
00:14:34struck off the ballot by the Supreme
00:14:37Supreme Court, 50 miles from Moscow. Moscow. We didn't see much sign of
00:14:40of an election. There were few banners, banners, few election posters. But
00:14:43But from chatting to people, there there was every sign that the war
00:14:47war is front and centre of people's
00:14:51people's minds. I want a peaceful
00:14:53peaceful life, Yulia told. Me. I'd
00:14:57I'd like to live in a peaceful country, country, says Paulina, so that you
00:15:00you don't have to worry that a drone drone will fall down in front of
00:15:04of you. But expectations are low
00:15:07low that this election will bring
00:15:09bring peace any closer. And that that was our Russia editor, Steve
00:15:13Steve Rosenberg. This is BBC News
00:15:15News still to come. Palestinian President
00:15:17President Mahmoud Abbas has been been once again denied his visa to
00:15:21to the United States ahead of the the United Nations General Assembly
00:15:24Assembly and will need to do his
00:15:26his address via video conference.
00:16:29and the possible awards contenders contenders to have emerged. Join
00:16:31Join me Tom Brook for Talking Movies
00:16:35Movies on BBC News. Hello and welcome
00:16:42welcome back to BBC News. Police Police in Suffolk are searching for
00:16:46for a missing three-year-old boy.
00:16:47boy. Say they found the body of a
00:16:50a child in a pond. Noah Woods, who's
00:16:53who's non-verbal and partially deaf, deaf, disappeared from a playground
00:16:56playground in Brantham more than than 24 hours ago. Hundreds of volunteers
00:16:59volunteers took part in the search
00:17:01search for the child. Our correspondent correspondent Navtej Johal is in
00:17:05in Brantham in Suffolk. At least
00:17:08least 1300 volunteers took part in in a huge operation to try and find
00:17:12find this little boy. We're stood stood by the playground where he
00:17:15he was last seen on Tuesday afternoon. afternoon. I can see the blue roundabout
00:17:19roundabout that he was playing with with that was captured on the CCTV
00:17:22CCTV minutes before he disappeared. disappeared. And we understand that
00:17:25that he ran down a pathway just to
00:17:27to the left of the playground there there towards Decoy Pond, a fishing
00:17:31fishing lake popular with fishermen fishermen about a few hundred metres
00:17:34metres away, maybe a 5 or 6 minute minute walk away from where I'm standing
00:17:37standing now. And the search and
00:17:40and rescue effort was, was huge. huge. There were Suffolk police,
00:17:43police, but also several other agencies agencies took part as well, including
00:17:47including dog units and dive teams teams and helicopter search and rescue
00:17:50rescue teams too. And that huge rescue rescue effort. Yes you're right.
00:17:54right. People came from far, far
00:17:57far afield from Hampshire, from Birmingham, Birmingham, more than 100 miles away
00:18:00away to help take part in trying trying to find this boy for 24 hours.
00:18:04hours. This small village was a hive hive of activity. But unfortunately
00:18:07unfortunately that news emerged yesterday yesterday afternoon from Suffolk
00:18:10Suffolk police that a boy that a
00:18:12a body had been found in Decoy Pond.
00:18:15Pond. And when that news broke, the the devastation and heartbreak among
00:18:18among those volunteers, the people people who had been searching so
00:18:21so desperately for Noah Woods was was laid bare and they came, many
00:18:24many of them, and laid flowers in
00:18:27in memory of Noah. You can see lots lots and lots of flowers here around
00:18:30around 100 bunches of flowers, toys, toys, tributes, cards left for Noah.
00:18:33Noah. One of them here reads we didn't
00:18:36didn't know you, Noah, but we tried
00:18:38tried to find you. Now formal identification identification is yet to take place.
00:18:41place. That may happen later today,
00:18:43today, but Noah Woods family have have been informed and the thoughts
00:18:47thoughts of everyone in Brantham Brantham will be with them as they
00:18:50they try to come to terms with this
00:18:52this terrible news. Navtej Johal
00:18:55Johal in Suffolk. Palestinian officials
00:18:58officials say the US has again denied
00:19:00denied a visa to Palestinian Authority Authority President Mahmoud Abbas,
00:19:04Abbas, forcing him to address the
00:19:06the UN General Assembly remotely remotely for a second year. Dozens
00:19:10Dozens of officials travelling with with him have also been denied visas.
00:19:13visas. The US says the decision reflects
00:19:16reflects failures to reform and concerns
00:19:18concerns over support for terrorism. terrorism. Our Middle East correspondent correspondent Yolande Knell is in
00:19:22in Jerusalem with more on why the the visas are thought to have been
00:19:25been blocked. So the State Department
00:19:28Department says that it's extending extending its visa sanctions against
00:19:31against officials from both the Palestinian
00:19:35Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Palestine Liberation Organisation. Organisation. Now these are the two
00:19:38two bodies that are the international
00:19:42international representatives of of the Palestinian people. And last
00:19:45last year, the State Department took took this step as several countries,
00:19:50countries, including the UK, were
00:19:52were about to announce their recognition recognition of a Palestinian state
00:19:55state on the fringes of the UN General General Assembly, something which
00:19:59which Washington strongly disapproved disapproved of, calling it an unhelpful
00:20:03unhelpful and a unilateral step. step. Now the State Department has
00:20:06has put out a press release in which
00:20:08which it accuses the PA and the PLO PLO of glorifying terrorism, and
00:20:11and it says that they have sought
00:20:14sought to internationalise the conflict
00:20:16conflict with Israel by seeking legal legal action at the International
00:20:20International Criminal Court and and the International Court of Justice.
00:20:22Justice. So what we're expecting expecting is that 193 members of
00:20:26of the UN General Assembly will hold
00:20:27hold a vote later to basically approve
00:20:31approve Mr Abbas, the Palestinian Palestinian president, giving his
00:20:35his address remotely for the second
00:20:37second year running. And while that's
00:20:40that's happening in New York, we've
00:20:41we've got live pictures of that the
00:20:44the terrible building collapse in
00:20:47in Gaza, which we know that the latest latest figures, eight children among
00:20:51among the 21 killed. What's the very very latest from there? And the efforts
00:20:53efforts to try and find survivors.
00:20:57survivors. Well, that rescue operation operation has been continuing in
00:21:01in the south of Gaza City with the
00:21:04the limited resources that are on
00:21:06on hand, some heavy lifting equipment.
00:21:08equipment. But hopes are subsiding
00:21:10subsiding of finding more survivors survivors in that rubble where you
00:21:14you can see that the floors of this
00:21:16this six storey building were sandwiched
00:21:19sandwiched together when it collapsed
00:21:20collapsed in the early hours of yesterday
00:21:24yesterday morning. That was Yolande Yolande Knell reporting there from
00:21:28from Jerusalem. Now 117. That is
00:21:32is the age of Ethel Caterham extraordinary. extraordinary. The world's oldest oldest person who lives in Surrey,
00:21:35Surrey, not far away from here in
00:21:37in London. Ethel is also the oldest oldest British person in recorded
00:21:41recorded history. Born in Edwardian Edwardian times, the oldest living
00:21:44living person title is forever changing, changing, and now these very senior
00:21:48senior citizens have become the subject subject of a documentary put together
00:21:52together by a New York based filmmaker. filmmaker. Talking Movies. Tom Brook
00:21:55Brook went to meet him. I know this
00:21:58this might sound weird, but I've I've been obsessed with the oldest
00:22:02oldest person in the world for
00:22:08years. Meet adventurous, Brooklyn Brooklyn based, Oscar nominated filmmaker
00:22:10filmmaker Sam Green. Since 2015, 2015, he's been travelling the world,
00:22:14world, chronicling the forever changing changing holders of the title of
00:22:17of oldest person in the world. It's
00:22:20It's survey has included Kane Tanaka Tanaka in Japan, who held the title
00:22:24title for four years. And then there's
00:22:26there's the oldest person ever Jeanne
00:22:29Jeanne Louise Calment, who when she
00:22:31she died in 1997, was 122 years old.
00:22:33old. In her later years she recorded recorded a rap album, the thing I
00:22:37I liked about the film Sam Green's Green's investigation of these very
00:22:40very senior citizens has become a a lifelong project. A documentary
00:22:44documentary based on his survey so so far has just been released. He's
00:22:47He's long been fascinated by why
00:22:49why the news media and the public
00:22:52public are so interested in the title title holder of the oldest person
00:22:55person in the world. To this day, day, I still don't fully understand
00:22:58understand it. Is this a fear of
00:23:01of death? Is this a fear of fate
00:23:04fate or a you know, one of those
00:23:06those things like with the car crash
00:23:09crash where you can't look away but but you don't want to look at it.
00:23:13it. In making his documentary, Sam Sam Green found there was nearly nearly always a desire on the part
00:23:16part of others to find out if there's there's a secret to longevity. The
00:23:20The elderly people, he observed, observed, had all kinds of answers
00:23:23answers for why they'd led a long long life. One woman stated she'd
00:23:27she'd live for a long time because because she'd stayed away from men.
00:23:30men. She also said her secret was was eating three raw eggs a day.
00:23:34day. Two, you know, so it's like like the media descends on these
00:23:37these people. Everybody asks them them what their secret is and they
00:23:41they say something and everybody everybody runs with that. This documentary
00:23:44documentary often shows that other other people, the outside world is
00:23:47is often much more intrigued by the the oldest person in the world than
00:23:51than the subjects who hold that title. title. But this film isn't just about
00:23:55about the very old. It's also about about life and death and events in
00:23:59in the filmmaker's own life the birth birth of a son and his own confrontation
00:24:03confrontation with a life threatening threatening illness. These things
00:24:06things started to creep into the the movie, so over time it becomes
00:24:09becomes a larger meditation, I hope,
00:24:12hope, about time and the mysteries mysteries of being alive and faith
00:24:15faith and all these big questions
00:24:18questions that we ask ourselves.
00:24:21ourselves. The last person I interviewed, interviewed, a Spanish woman named
00:24:24named Maria Branyas, she was very very funny. She even was making fun
00:24:28fun of me, which I love. But in. in. At a moment in the interview
00:24:32interview she said, you are young.
00:24:34young. I. Else all of us. Now is
00:24:36is the time to do good works. But
00:24:39But she was saying is you're young
00:24:41young and you have time, so use it.
00:24:43it. And I think that's a beautiful
00:24:48beautiful thing to appreciate. Over
00:24:51Over the last ten years, Sam Green Green has met many of those who have
00:24:54have held the title of oldest person person in the world. But there's
00:24:57there's been one holdout the current
00:24:59current title holder, 117-year-old 117-year-old Ethel Caterham, who
00:25:03who lives in Surrey, just outside
00:25:05outside London. She was born in Edwardian
00:25:07Edwardian times. She is the first
00:25:09first person in ten years who has
00:25:13has rebuffed my overtures. But she she did let King Charles visit her,
00:25:16her, didn't she? When I saw a video
00:25:18video of her in King Charles and
00:25:21and I thought, Charles, not me, you
00:25:24you know she's British. She's the
00:25:26the last Edwardian so I guess she she feels some allegiance to the
00:25:30the King. But you know, come on. on. I've been doing this for ten
00:25:32ten years. Even though this documentary documentary focuses on the very old
00:25:36old and very fragile, it makes the the point that there is much to learn
00:25:40learn from observing them and from from the filmmaker himself about
00:25:43about what it means to live a thoughtful
00:25:45thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly
00:25:48unexpectedly life affirming film.
00:25:51film. Tom Brook, BBC News New York.
00:25:54York. That looks really fascinating, fascinating, doesn't it? Now? Still
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00:27:38temperatures here with highs of 36 36 or 37.
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