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00:00:17These are the latest headlines
00:00:19from BBC News. The King issues an
00:00:22an unusually pointed response after after Earl Spencer, Princess Diana's
00:00:26Diana's brother, makes fresh claims claims about him in his new book.
00:00:29book. Fiji declares a national emergency
00:00:32emergency following an alarming surge
00:00:34surge in HIV cases. 1 in 60 adults
00:00:37adults in the Pacific island nation nation now live with the virus that
00:00:40that causes Aids. The Bank of England
00:00:43England is expected to hold interest interest rates in the face of rising
00:00:47rising prices, as the US hikes, borrowing
00:00:49borrowing costs. Microsoft's head
00:00:51head of AI tells the BBC his competitors competitors approach to training
00:00:54training their models could have
00:00:56have a disastrous impact on the wellbeing
00:00:58wellbeing of humanity. European Commission Commission President Ursula von der
00:01:02der Leyen moves ahead with plans
00:01:03plans to ban social media for under
00:01:06under 13 seconds, saying these apps
00:01:07apps are depriving children of their
00:01:10their childhood. And the boss of of social media company Snapchat
00:01:13Snapchat says the firm would be willing willing to implement time limits
00:01:16limits for teenagers as an important
00:01:18important step forward for the industry.
00:01:27industry. Hello, I'm Karin Giannone. Giannone. King Charles has called
00:01:29called on AI giants to keep tech tech in service of humanity ahead
00:01:33ahead of him chairing a summit with
00:01:36with industry leaders concerns about
00:01:38about the existential threat of artificial artificial intelligence have intensified
00:01:41intensified in recent weeks, with with several instances of bad actors
00:01:45actors using AI models for weapons
00:01:48weapons development and fraud. Well, Well, let's speak now to Yang Li,
00:01:52Li, co-founder and chief operating
00:01:54operating officer of AI lab Cosign,
00:01:57Cosign, who are developing what they they describe as the first fully
00:02:00fully British AI model to rival the the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI.
00:02:03OpenAI. Yang Li, thank you very much much for being with us. Just tell
00:02:07tell us why, in your view, it's so
00:02:10so important for the UK to have its
00:02:12its own AI model. I think a sovereign sovereign model is beyond just a
00:02:16a Union Jack sticker. I think as as we are depending and building
00:02:19building on top of AI, the UK needs needs to know what is exactly inside
00:02:23inside the AI, what data is inside inside it. Does it have a kill switch
00:02:26switch that is beholden to another another foreign government? And will
00:02:29will we lose access to it when we we need it the most? When our country
00:02:32country is in danger? You mentioned mentioned you used the word sovereign
00:02:35sovereign AI. I mean, what is the the difference that you mean by using
00:02:39using that word specifically? I think
00:02:42think a lot of the most popular AI AI solutions on the market at the
00:02:45the moment are mostly American or or Chinese. So the American models
00:02:48models they put into the data sets sets to build the AI that we have
00:02:52have no idea what goes inside of of it. They can turn off access whenever
00:02:55whenever they want to, whether it's it's by policy or on a hardware level.
00:02:58level. As we have seen with Donald Donald Trump's export ban of Anthropic
00:03:01Anthropic models or it's on built built by Chinese side, in which case
00:03:04case we still don't know what data data sets are going inside of it.
00:03:07it. And so building a sovereign model model means we have control over
00:03:10over every layer from the ground ground up. So in your sense, you
00:03:13you mean there can be complete trust trust in that model. And that is
00:03:17is important for the UK's security? security? Yeah, absolutely. We are
00:03:21are completely open. So here at Cosign Cosign we built in partnership our
00:03:25our model, you know with some of of the largest UK publicly traded
00:03:28traded companies. And so everyone everyone has access to know what
00:03:31what exactly goes inside our models, models, how it works, what is the
00:03:34the architecture and the conditions conditions and the assurance we give give in terms of deployment. What
00:03:38What do you think of what's happening happening today, King Charles, of
00:03:40of all people bringing AI leaders leaders together at the summit in
00:03:44in Scotland in a few hours' time. time. I think it's really timely.
00:03:47timely. I think that's the. Even
00:03:49Even a few months ago, AI was seen
00:03:52seen as novelty, as potentially impactful. impactful. I think now towards the
00:03:56the end of the year, we are seeing seeing that it's making huge improvements improvements in productivity. But
00:04:00But also that brings with it also also a huge amount of risk. And actually
00:04:03actually I think it's a great time time to basically talk about how
00:04:06how do we build on it securely, but but also give us the resilience that
00:04:10that we need and demand here in the the UK. I'm very interested to get
00:04:13get your thoughts on that word, that that risk because over the last week
00:04:17week or so, that is all we have been been hearing day after day about
00:04:20about the potential threats to the the very existence of humanity. Where
00:04:24Where are you on that? I think where
00:04:27where I get to is we should be concerned, concerned, but we shouldn't be frightened.
00:04:30frightened. You know, I think that that it's all still very nascent
00:04:33nascent in terms of what is the capability capability of AI. Obviously, there's there's a huge amount of potential.
00:04:37potential. We've seen the speed of of innovation in AI, but actually actually I think that we have yet
00:04:41yet to see the true impact and a a grand scale yet. So I think, as
00:04:45as I said, this is a great time to to begin to talk about the nascent
00:04:48nascent era of AI and think about
00:04:50about the risks and how do we protect protect ourselves in case something,
00:04:53something, you know, happens as unexpected. unexpected. And so right now I'm
00:04:56I'm not frightened. I'm just concerned. concerned. And what would you at
00:04:59at Cosign be doing differently to to avoid those risks becoming reality
00:05:03reality differently to your rivals? rivals? Yeah. So you know, we work
00:05:07work very closely with government government organisations like ASIS
00:05:10ASIS or the AI Safety Institute, Institute, and we're collaborating
00:05:13collaborating with them to test and and probe and we give them we're
00:05:16we're completely transparent with with them to understand, you know, know, where the risk vectors might
00:05:20might be with AI that we're building. building. But also we have a partnership partnership that we've just announced
00:05:23announced this week with a leading leading cybersecurity firm that focuses
00:05:27focuses on AI to again, give us an
00:05:30an independent sort of test and verification verification that our AI is safe.
00:05:33safe. And, you know, not all AI companies companies in the world is now collaborating
00:05:37collaborating with the AI Safety Safety Institute, which in my opinion
00:05:39opinion is a world leading and a a truly the UK is pioneering and
00:05:43and pushing the boundaries of AI AI safety. And it's a shame that that some American models are no
00:05:46no longer working with them. We really really believe that having a third
00:05:50third party, you know, verification verification and auditor is really really important when it comes to
00:05:53to AI. How do you get around that?
00:05:55that? I mean, if, say, 80% of AI
00:05:57AI models comply with regulations regulations or agreements, the outliers
00:06:01outliers who decide they're not going going to be held back. Yeah. And
00:06:04And I think this is a there's quite quite a lot of tension here. And And again, this has only happened
00:06:08happened very recently. You know, know, I think in the world of AI, AI, we operate in weeks and often
00:06:12often government operates in years years in terms of timeline, I think.
00:06:15think. So this is still developing. developing. I think for us, our view
00:06:18view is that we have to be as cautious cautious and have as many guardrails
00:06:22guardrails as possible, but we can't
00:06:24can't stop innovating, right, because because other countries and maybe
00:06:28maybe even our adversaries will continue continue to innovate and push without
00:06:31without any rules and regulation. regulation. We have to innovate but
00:06:34but also have a minimum amount of of regulation. And, you know, to to understand what the risks are.
00:06:37are. So understanding the risks is is probably the first step before before controlling the risks. And
00:06:41And just on something that's been been talked about a lot in the last last few hours, the head of Microsoft
00:06:45Microsoft AI saying unless adequate adequate restrictions, excuse me,
00:06:49me, are implemented, it could lead lead to the emergence of a new silicon
00:06:52silicon species. What do you feel feel about describing AI as a species
00:06:56species in its own right? I think
00:06:59think for us, I think that's a little little bit too premature. I think
00:07:02think we're seeing AI is still a a tool in the same way that the internet
00:07:06internet was seen as quite scary scary in the beginning, and as it
00:07:09it had a lot of potential. I think think it's probably too far too early
00:07:12early to describe it as a completely completely new species. I think that
00:07:16that we will obviously augment how how we work in society. We will work
00:07:19work faster. We need to spend a lot
00:07:21lot of time in terms of retraining retraining existing staff members,
00:07:24members, you know, and we are collaborating collaborating with a lot of our coalition
00:07:28coalition partners, whether it's it's by Babcock, GSK or Telefonica
00:07:31Telefonica or any of the Sis that that we're working with. We're working,
00:07:34working, thinking hard about how how do we bring existing workers
00:07:37workers into the AI world rather rather than thinking that we're replacing
00:07:40replacing humans altogether? Yang Yang Li, co-founder and chief operating
00:07:43operating officer of Cosign, a London London based AI lab thank you very
00:07:47very much. Thank you. Now the EU
00:07:50EU has set out plans to ban social
00:07:53social media for children under the
00:07:54the age of 13. Older children aged
00:07:57aged between 13 and 15 will be allowed allowed limited use of the technology,
00:08:00technology, but only with supervision. supervision. Many governments are
00:08:02are following the example of Australia
00:08:04Australia and planning tighter restrictions restrictions because of concerns
00:08:08concerns over the harmful effects effects on children's mental health.
00:08:11health. In the last half hour, EU
00:08:14EU chief Ursula von der Leyen has has set out her proposals to the
00:08:18the European Parliament. No social
00:08:20social media under the age of 13.
00:08:2313. No personal account under the
00:08:26the age of 15. That means from 13
00:08:3013 until a child turns 15, only mini
00:08:34mini accounts that are set up and
00:08:36and supervised by parents or guardians
00:08:39guardians with limited features and
00:08:41and time restriction to one hour
00:08:43hour a day maximum. And then between
00:08:47between 15 and 18. Safe design will
00:08:50will be an obligation for the platforms.
00:08:54platforms. To be very clear, an age
00:08:56age limit does not mean letting tech
00:09:00tech companies off the hook for the
00:09:03the content of the platform. Platforms Platforms have been playing fast
00:09:06fast and loose with children's mental
00:09:08mental health. Now we are reversing
00:09:11reversing the burden of proof. Now
00:09:14Now they have to prove to us that that they are safe. Ursula von der
00:09:18der Leyen, speaking just in the last last half hour or so, let's talk
00:09:22talk to our Europe correspondent correspondent Nick Beake in Brussels.
00:09:25Brussels. Nick, just hearing those
00:09:28those plans from the EU, how is this
00:09:31this expected to work? Hi, Catherine. Catherine. Well, some of the details details there outlined by president
00:09:35president von der Leyen about this this sort of gradual approach for
00:09:39for kids under 13, having no social
00:09:41social media, then between the ages
00:09:43ages of 13 and 14 limited access
00:09:45access only an hour a day and with
00:09:48with parental supervision and also also restricted services. And then
00:09:51then when kids get to 15, there's there's a bit more freedom there
00:09:54there to set up their own accounts. accounts. But there are lots of questions
00:09:56questions about how this will be
00:09:59be implemented and how it will work. work. We've seen Australia famously
00:10:02famously bring in their ban at the the end of last year for under 16
00:10:0616 seconds, using social media and
00:10:08and the whole emphasis, according according to the European Union,
00:10:12Union, is that basically these big big tech companies need to earn the
00:10:15the right to get access to children children in the European Union to
00:10:19to be able to win the trust of the
00:10:22the European Union, to have that that sort of access so that their
00:10:26their platforms can be used. But But there are questions about how
00:10:29how this will be enforced. And you've you've got to look at France, for for example. They've been working
00:10:33working on their own plans. And just just last month the highest court
00:10:36court in France said that it was was blocking plans for an under 15
00:10:4015 social media ban there because
00:10:42because of concerns over expression, expression, the freedom of expression.
00:10:46expression. So that's just one example example of how there could be quite
00:10:48quite a bumpy road here. Yes. How How is the EU expected to navigate
00:10:52navigate that? I mean that's just just the example of France. But if if you've got a whole load of individual
00:10:56individual nation states who want want to go their own way, how are are they going to do it? Yeah. Well,
00:11:00Well, I think what will happen is is all these individual countries
00:11:03countries will continue their own own legislation because we know they're
00:11:07they're at various stages down the the track at the moment. In doing
00:11:10doing so, Spain, for example, is
00:11:12is looking to do something that would would be a bit tougher, as in it
00:11:16it would be more of a blanket ban
00:11:18ban for people under the age of 15
00:11:2015 or 16. There is this gradual approach
00:11:23approach under these EU legislation.
00:11:26legislation. Proposed legislation. legislation. I think also within
00:11:29within this, although it wasn't announced announced in this press conference conference today, there is some suggestion
00:11:33suggestion that the big tech companies
00:11:35companies will be fined quite heavily heavily if they don't meet the standards
00:11:39standards that are put forward. There There were some reports up to 6%
00:11:426% of their global sales could be
00:11:45be fined in this. And also questions questions about not just how parents
00:11:48parents may be expected to oversee oversee this, because quite a lot
00:11:52lot of the burden would be on parents
00:11:55parents and guardians, but also other other sort of aspects of this. For
00:11:59For example, age verification. It It looks like that kids will have
00:12:01have to prove that they're old enough enough to use certain services. And
00:12:05And within that, some people are are saying there are concerns about
00:12:08about privacy and the information information of young people, children
00:12:11children and teenagers. The EU say say with this they've got their own
00:12:14own app and basically all that will will be detected is whether the children
00:12:18children are old enough to access access this service and that personal
00:12:22personal details, names, addresses, addresses, all the rest of it that that won't be supplied to these big
00:12:26big tech companies, but certainly certainly lots to be debated in the
00:12:29the weeks and months to come. And And they need the agreement of lots
00:12:32lots of people here. Ultimately, Ultimately, the European Parliament Parliament and those individual countries,
00:12:35countries, they need to be on board board if this is going to become become a reality. Thank you very
00:12:39very much. Nick Beake in Brussels. Brussels. Around the world and across across the
00:13:43performances that got attention and and the possible awards contenders contenders to have emerged. Join
00:13:45Join me Tom Brook for Talking Movies
00:13:49Movies on BBC News. Let's return
00:13:56return to the situation in Gaza now. now. At least 21 people, including
00:13:59including eight children, have been been killed after a building damaged
00:14:03damaged by the war collapsed in the the Gaza Strip on Tuesday. Well,
00:14:07Well, we can speak to Toby Fricker, Fricker, who's chief of communication
00:14:10communication at Unicef Palestine. Palestine. Thank you very much for
00:14:13for joining us. I wonder if you could could update us on the latest at
00:14:16at what is going on at the scene? scene? Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
00:14:20mean, it's another tragedy for children children and families in Gaza. What
00:14:23What we now know is around at least least we believe 11 children have
00:14:27have been reported killed and many many others injured. The search and
00:14:31and rescue operations are sort of of winding down now. I just spoke
00:14:34spoke to a colleague who's on the the ground there and it's devastating
00:14:37devastating because it's something something that unfortunately could could occur again. You know, there
00:14:40there are so many buildings in such such a precarious situation. I was
00:14:44was in Gaza last week and you can
00:14:45can see that really first-hand across across the strip. So we're doing
00:14:49doing Unicef. We're working with with our partners. We're providing providing medical support. We're
00:14:52We're providing psychological support support for children affected and
00:14:55and trying to provide essential supplies. supplies. I mean, these are families
00:14:58families who are living in a building
00:15:01building very precarious conditions. conditions. There's people who are
00:15:04are living in tents around these these buildings in Gaza as well,
00:15:07well, who also are in danger. And And there's few places to go. So
00:15:10So the situation is really devastating devastating for children and families
00:15:14families affected. We are actually actually able to look at the live
00:15:18live scene of that building, the the collapsed building, a scene of
00:15:20of complete devastation. And what what you're saying is that there
00:15:23there are people who are feeling feeling that they have simply no
00:15:26no option but to move back in to to these very unsafe structures.
00:15:30structures. Yeah. That's right. I I mean, there's very little space.
00:15:32space. I mean, families, children children have been squeezed into
00:15:35into to a small space across the the Gaza Strip and there are tents
00:15:39tents everywhere. There's so-called so-called sort of camps across the the strip. There's very little space.
00:15:42space. I mean, I met families who
00:15:45who had to move back to more unsafe unsafe areas because they just couldn't
00:15:48couldn't find a space to put up a a tent somewhere. So this is an ongoing
00:15:52ongoing risk. And the worry now is is with the winter approaching, it's
00:15:56it's bringing rains, colder temperatures temperatures and this could further further destabilise some of these
00:16:00these buildings that are in a very
00:16:02very precarious situation. What is
00:16:04is the situation regarding rebuilding
00:16:06rebuilding or even beginning to rebuild?
00:16:10rebuild? Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's
00:16:11it's a huge challenge. I mean, the
00:16:14the access to water, sanitation, sanitation, you know, health care,
00:16:17care, schooling have all been impacted impacted massively. Of course. What
00:16:20What I can say is that Unicef and and many other partners are doing
00:16:24doing what we can. We're providing providing that support to help families
00:16:26families survive, to keep going. going. But what we really need to to do is scale up that that sort
00:16:30sort of what we call early recovery, recovery, you know, being able to
00:16:34to restore water, sanitation systems, systems, being able to rebuild the
00:16:37the education system. We do have have children now registering to
00:16:40to go back to school, back to learning learning because they're going to
00:16:43to be in tents in, in school grounds grounds that have been damaged. But
00:16:46But it's one positive. Let's say say children are preparing for that.
00:16:49that. Around 300,000 children are are registered to start learning learning again. And that's critical
00:16:53critical for some routine, some stability
00:16:55stability for children across the the Gaza Strip. Toby Fricker, Unicef,
00:16:59Unicef, Palestine's chief of communications, communications, speaking to us from
00:17:02from Jerusalem. Thank you very much.
00:17:06much. Now, Robert Kraft, the US stadium
00:17:09stadium owner who had pro-Palestinian pro-Palestinian rapper Macklemore Macklemore removed as Ed Sheeran's
00:17:13Sheeran's opening act, says Sheeran
00:17:14Sheeran asked him to match his own
00:17:17own $2 million donation for aid in in the region. This follows the news
00:17:20news on Tuesday that all of Ed Sheeran's Sheeran's support acts had quit his
00:17:24his loop tour in solidarity with
00:17:26with fellow support act Macklemore
00:17:29Macklemore after he was dropped from
00:17:31from the show from making pro-Palestinian
00:17:35pro-Palestinian remarks on stage. stage. Now another development to
00:17:37to bring you on that a radio station
00:17:40station has now dropped Ed Sheeran's Sheeran's music after what it calls
00:17:43calls the reaction from our listeners listeners to that decision to remove
00:17:47remove Macklemore from the tour over over comments the rapper made about
00:17:50about Gaza. It goes on to say Classic Classic Hits Radio, which is based
00:17:53based in Ireland, said it had made made the decision to remove the Galway
00:17:57Galway Girl singer's music for the
00:18:00the foreseeable future after feedback
00:18:03feedback over the incident. Well, Well, let's talk to music journalist
00:18:07journalist John Earls. Thanks for for joining us, John. Just tell us
00:18:10us what you think of how Ed Sheeran Sheeran has got into this situation.
00:18:14situation. Well, I mean, it's a very very complicated situation. It's
00:18:17It's very messy. And I think it looks looks like it's only going to get get messier for the foreseeable for
00:18:21for the moment because Ed, bad crisis
00:18:25crisis management for one thing is is that first of all, once Macklemore
00:18:29Macklemore had been dropped, it was was Macklemore that made the initial initial statement. Then Robert Kraft
00:18:33Kraft made a statement. It was only only then that Ed Sheeran put his
00:18:36his point of view across, and he he should have been really across across it from the start and saying,
00:18:39saying, this is what's happened. happened. This is what I'd like to to happen going forward. But he's
00:18:43he's being seen as reactive and proactive. proactive. And again, overnight it
00:18:47it was initially Macklemore that that made the donation. Then Robert
00:18:49Robert Kraft said that him and Ed Ed were making donations as well.
00:18:53well. And again, Ed's been silent silent on that side of things so
00:18:56so far. So it just looks like Ed
00:18:58Ed doesn't really know how to react react to this situation really. I
00:19:01I mean, since the news broke, Ed Ed Sheeran has has made it clear
00:19:04clear that this wasn't his decision decision to drop Macklemore. But
00:19:07But I mean, is it reasonable for
00:19:09for him to expect that his music,
00:19:12music, his whole persona can stay
00:19:14stay completely apolitical? Not from from here on in. I mean, having been
00:19:18been caught up in this situation, situation, it's clear that he needs
00:19:21needs to be more political going going forward, or at least to kind
00:19:24kind of explain his own views better. better. Because having said that,
00:19:28that, he's apolitical. And, you know, know, certainly people don't go to
00:19:30to an Ed Sheeran concert expecting expecting political statements. You
00:19:33You know, he's been a very escapist
00:19:36escapist artist for his career. But But what I can't get my head around around is why he'd invite Macklemore
00:19:40Macklemore to be a support act in in the first place, because Macklemore
00:19:43Macklemore and Ed have both said said they've been friends for a long
00:19:46long time, and Ed would have known known what kind of artist Macklemore
00:19:49Macklemore is now. Macklemore has has become more political in the
00:19:51the last 2 or 3 years. So a statement statement like that from Macklemore
00:19:54Macklemore was always on the agenda, agenda, really. And I think it's
00:19:57it's strange that Ed didn't see that that coming. Right. So you say that
00:20:01that something like this should have have been foreseeable just for having
00:20:04having Macklemore to be part of the the performance and, and just how
00:20:08how does Ed Sheeran go forward from from this? How does he emerge from
00:20:12from this in the best possible way?
00:20:14way? Can he. I think he's been I
00:20:16I think his career has been significantly
00:20:19significantly damaged by by by what's what's happened here where he goes
00:20:23goes forward really, I think he kind kind of needs to pick a side because
00:20:27because having had it's not just just Macklemore. Two of the other other support acts, Aaron Rowe and
00:20:31and Finneas were also quite political political themselves. So if it wasn't
00:20:34wasn't going to be Macklemore, it it could well have been one of those those two that had made would make
00:20:38make a similar comment to Macklemore Macklemore through Palestine chance.
00:20:41chance. So it looked like it was was kind of wanting to get a little
00:20:45little bit more political in his his performances without being political
00:20:48political himself on stage, if that that makes sense. So I think he needs
00:20:51needs to really commit and I think think he looks out of touch at the
00:20:55the moment because he didn't see see this coming when he really should
00:20:58should have done he should have seen seen that people want singer songwriters
00:21:02songwriters to be more political political generally now, and that that he's been kind of caught out
00:21:05out by this. So where he goes from from here, my best guess is that
00:21:09that he becomes a little bit more more of an activist than he had been
00:21:13been for his career before. John, John, thanks very much for your thoughts.
00:21:16thoughts. That is music journalist
00:21:18journalist John Earls. You're with
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00:22:04Jeanne Louise Calment, who when she
00:22:06she died in 1997, was 122 years old.
00:22:08old. In her later years she recorded recorded a rap album, the thing I
00:22:12I liked about the film Sam Green's Green's investigation of these very
00:22:15very senior citizens has become a a lifelong project. A documentary
00:22:19documentary based on his survey so so far has just been released. His
00:22:23His long been fascinated by why the
00:22:25the news media and the public are
00:22:27are so interested in the title holder holder of the oldest person in the
00:22:31the world. To this day, I still don't
00:22:33don't fully understand it. Is this
00:22:35this a fear of death? Is this a fear
00:22:38fear of fate or a you know, one of
00:22:41of those things like with the car
00:22:42car crash where you can't look away
00:22:45away but you don't want to look at at it? In making his documentary,
00:22:49documentary, Sam Green found there there was nearly always a desire desire on the part of others to find
00:22:52find out if there's a secret to longevity.
00:22:55longevity. The elderly people, he he observed, had all kinds of answers
00:22:58answers for why they'd led a long long life. One woman stated she'd
00:23:02she'd live for a long time because because she'd stayed away from men.
00:23:05men. She also said her secret was was eating three raw eggs a day.
00:23:09day. Two, you know, so it's like like the media descends on these
00:23:12these people. Everybody asks them them what their secret is and they
00:23:16they say something and everybody everybody runs with that. This documentary
00:23:19documentary often shows that other other people, the outside world is
00:23:22is often much more intrigued by the the oldest person in the world than
00:23:26than the subjects who hold that title. title. But this film isn't just about
00:23:30about the very old. It's also about about life and death and events in
00:23:34in the filmmaker's own life the birth birth of a son and his own confrontation
00:23:38confrontation with a life threatening threatening illness. These things things started to creep into the
00:23:42the movie, so over time it becomes
00:23:44becomes a larger meditation, I hope,
00:23:47hope, about time and the mysteries mysteries of being alive and fate
00:23:51fate and all these big questions
00:23:53questions that we ask ourselves.
00:23:56ourselves. The last person I interviewed, interviewed, a Spanish woman named
00:23:59named Maria Branyas, she was very very funny. She even was making fun
00:24:03fun of me, which I love. But in.
00:24:05in. At a moment in the interview
00:24:07interview she said, you are
00:24:11young. I know so Java Sea. Now is is the time to do good works. But
00:24:14But she was saying is you're young
00:24:17young and you have time, so use it.
00:24:18it. And I think that's a beautiful
00:24:24beautiful thing to appreciate. Over
00:24:26Over the last ten years, Sam Green Green has met many of those who've
00:24:29who've held the title of oldest person person in the world. But there's
00:24:33there's been one holdout the current
00:24:35current title holder, 117-year-old 117-year-old Ethel Caterham, who
00:24:38who lives in Surrey just outside
00:24:40outside London. She was born in Edwardian
00:24:42Edwardian times. She is the first
00:24:44first person in ten years who has
00:24:48has rebuffed my overtures. But she she did let King Charles visit her,
00:24:51her, didn't she? When I saw a video
00:24:53video of her in King Charles and
00:24:56and I thought, Charles, not me. You
00:24:59You know she's British. She's the
00:25:00the last Edwardian. So I guess she
00:25:04she feels some allegiance to the the King. But you know, come on. on. I've been doing this for ten
00:25:07ten years. Even though this documentary documentary focuses on the very old
00:25:11old and very fragile, it makes the the point that there is much to learn
00:25:15learn from observing them and from from the filmmaker himself about
00:25:18about what it means to live a thoughtful
00:25:20thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly
00:25:23unexpectedly life affirming film.
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00:29:17What new industries are created. Because what we've seen seen throughout history is new industries
00:29:21industries are created and it's that that process that actually opens
00:29:24opens new doors. That was the that
00:29:26that was the mandate from Prime Minister Minister Starmer. He wants the UK
00:29:29UK to be an AI superpower. He recognises
00:29:33recognises that the ingredients are
00:29:34are all right here. AI is real AI
00:29:37AI and total pay off just like cars cars in total AI and total pay off just like cars in total cars in total paid off TV and total
00:29:41total paid off. But most people involved
00:29:43involved and didn't do well. The
00:29:46The revolutionary you know time upon upon us and I think, you know all
00:29:49all industries will be adopting AI
00:29:50AI in some shape or form. MUSIC
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