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00:00:12Live from London. This is BBC
00:00:15News. The King issues an unusually unusually pointed response after
00:00:18after Earl Spencer, Princess Diana's Diana's brother, makes fresh claims
00:00:21claims about him in his new book
00:00:24book Microsoft's head of AI tells tells the BBC his competitors approach
00:00:27approach to training their models models could have a disastrous impact
00:00:30impact on the wellbeing of humanity.
00:00:34humanity. European Commission President President Ursula von humanity. European Commission President Ursula von President Ursula von der Leyen moves moves ahead with plans to ban social
00:00:38social media for under 13, saying
00:00:39saying these apps are depriving children children of their childhood. The
00:00:43The Bank of England is expected to to hold interest rates in the face
00:00:47face of rising prices, as the US
00:00:50US hikes, borrowing costs. Russia
00:00:52Russia heads to the polls for parliamentary parliamentary elections, the first
00:00:56first since parliamentary elections, the first since first since its full-scale invasion invasion of Ukraine. And is there
00:00:59there a secret to a long life talking talking movie speaks to a filmmaker
00:01:03filmmaker about the ever talking movie speaks to a filmmaker about the ever filmmaker about the ever changing
00:01:05changing title of the oldest living
00:01:08living person. Hello, I'm Karin Giannone.
00:01:19Giannone. Buckingham living person. Hello, I'm Karin Giannone. Buckingham Giannone. Buckingham Palace has rejected rejected claims about the King made
00:01:22made by Princess Diana's brother brother Earl Spencer. In his new
00:01:25new memoir. In a Daily Mail serialisation serialisation of his new book, due
00:01:29due to be released next week, Charles Charles Spencer said that after the
00:01:33the death of his sister in 1997, 1997, the King told him that the
00:01:36the then Princess of Wales would
00:01:38would be forgotten soon enough. Our
00:01:40Our senior royal correspondent, Daniela
00:01:42Daniela Relph reports. It is the the content of Earl Spencer's book
00:01:46book about his sister that has driven driven Buckingham Palace to issue
00:01:50issue an unusually robust response. response. Earl Spencer writes of
00:01:54of a row with the King back in 1997,
00:01:561997, when the King was Prince of of Wales after he challenged him
00:01:59him on the decision to allow Princes Princes William and Harry to walk
00:02:03walk behind their mother's coffin coffin at her funeral, something
00:02:05something he said his sister would would not have wanted. Earl Spencer
00:02:09Spencer claims the King replied angrily,
00:02:11angrily, saying that Diana would would be forgotten soon enough. The
00:02:15The response from Buckingham Palace, Palace, a sign of the fury behind
00:02:19behind palace walls. An official
00:02:21official spokesman said while we we do not comment on books as a matter
00:02:25matter of principle, His Majesty Majesty is mindful that the pain
00:02:29pain of fraternal grief can cloud
00:02:31cloud reason, affect judgement and
00:02:33and colour memory in ways others
00:02:36others do not recognise. Even many
00:02:38many years after such a loss. Not
00:02:40Not since the late Queen's statement statement that recollections may
00:02:44may vary after the Duke and Duchess Duchess of Sussex's interview with
00:02:47with Oprah Winfrey has a royal statement
00:02:50statement packed so much punch. It's
00:02:54It's been a challenging few weeks weeks for the Royal family, many
00:02:57many of whom will be out on official
00:03:00official duty today. As will Prince Prince Harry, who'll be in London
00:03:04London for an awards dinner for the the Invictus Games for wounded military
00:03:08military personnel. His first public
00:03:11public charity engagement since moving moving back to the UK with his wife
00:03:14wife and children. Since inception, inception, Prince Harry has been
00:03:18been a spectacular champion for the
00:03:20the Invictus Games Foundation. He's
00:03:23He's been a visionary for the Invictus Invictus Movement throughout and
00:03:27and having him closer to our HQ here
00:03:30here in London is incredible. Come
00:03:33Come on you come on. The return of of Harry and Meghan has brought with
00:03:36with it a degree of drama over their
00:03:40their security, the safety of their their children on the school run
00:03:43run and speculation over why they
00:03:45they have come back to the UK. The
00:03:49The return of Sussexes really is
00:03:52is shows just how much they run out
00:03:54out of road in Montecito. And they they had run out of road, do you
00:03:58you think? Totally run out of road.
00:03:59road. They seemed to be unable to
00:04:03to just simply quietly and with composure
00:04:06composure examine their options and and follow a route. You know, they
00:04:09they they crash into things, you you know, all the time. How much
00:04:13much my husband loves bagpipes. All
00:04:16All of these engagements have been been planned well in advance. But
00:04:19But with Harry and Meghan now back back in the UK, the days where we
00:04:22we see the working royals out on
00:04:24on the same day as the non-working
00:04:27non-working ones will become more
00:04:28more common. Daniela Relph, BBC
00:04:34News. Well, with me is our royal royal correspondent Helena Wilkinson Wilkinson and Helena. How unusual
00:04:36unusual is it to get such a strong strong statement from the palace
00:04:40palace so quickly? It's really unusual.
00:04:41unusual. It's rare to get a statement
00:04:44statement which brings the palace
00:04:46palace into the kind of public debate. debate. It's become really a war
00:04:50war of words between Buckingham Palace
00:04:52Palace and Earl Spencer. Diana's
00:04:55Diana's brother. As Daniela mentioned
00:04:58mentioned in her report there. Earl Earl Spencer has a book out next
00:05:01next week. It's all about his sister
00:05:04sister Diana and some of the book
00:05:06book is being published in parts
00:05:08parts in the Daily Mail. And the
00:05:11the details that we had yesterday
00:05:13yesterday in part of Earl Spencer's
00:05:17Spencer's book was that he accused accused King Charles, who was then
00:05:20then the Prince of Wales of Insensitively Insensitively saying to Earl Spencer
00:05:23Spencer in the wake of Diana's death
00:05:27death in 1997 that quote will forget
00:05:29forget her soon enough. That's according
00:05:31according to claims by Earl Spencer Spencer in the book. The Palace,
00:05:35Palace, though, has pushed back on
00:05:38on this unusually strongly worded
00:05:40worded statement. Clearly angered angered by the claims that have been
00:05:43been made by Earl Spencer and also
00:05:46also attempting to cast doubt on on those claims. So it's unusual
00:05:49unusual to get such a statement from
00:05:52from the Palace. And I think we can can expect more details. We are expecting
00:05:56expecting more details or more parts parts of the book by Earl Spencer
00:05:59Spencer to be published a bit later later on. So this is not the end
00:06:03end of it. I think we're going to to see more not only today but over over the next couple of days before
00:06:07before the book is published next next week. And it's reminiscent,
00:06:10reminiscent, Helena, of that statement statement we heard from the late
00:06:12late Queen once. Recollections may may vary, but this comes on a day
00:06:16day when there are so many other other royal headlines. A very busy
00:06:18busy royal day. Yeah, it's a crowded crowded day for the royal family.
00:06:22family. Harry and Meghan, as we know, know, moved back to the UK just over
00:06:26over three weeks ago now and this this is going to be the first day
00:06:29day that he is carrying out an official
00:06:32official engagement. He is not, though, though, working as an official member
00:06:35member of the royal family. That That has been made very clear by
00:06:39by the King. So he's going to be be at a charity event later on today
00:06:43today and he will be doing that in
00:06:45in a private capacity, but also today
00:06:47today the King is going to be getting
00:06:51getting various leaders within the
00:06:52the AI sector together in Scotland.
00:06:55Scotland. So he will be on an engagement
00:06:57engagement and also the Prince and
00:07:00and Princess of Wales, William and and Catherine. They are also out
00:07:03out on an engagement. So we're going
00:07:05going to see a lot of the royal family family out and about today. And I
00:07:08I think what we're going to see as as well, clearly, is that divide
00:07:12divide between the working members members of the royal family, the the senior working members of the
00:07:15the royal family and the non-working non-working members of the royal
00:07:18royal family. Prince Harry later later on. Helena, thank you very
00:07:22very much. Helena Wilkinson. Well, Well, as we've been hearing, King
00:07:25King Charles has called on AI giants giants to keep tech in service of
00:07:29of humanity ahead of him chairing
00:07:31chairing a summit with industry leaders.
00:07:34leaders. Concerns about the existential existential threat of artificial artificial intelligence have intensified
00:07:37intensified in recent weeks, with with several instances of bad actors
00:07:41actors using AI models for weapons
00:07:44weapons development and fraud. Mustafa Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft
00:07:47Microsoft AI, has told BBC Radio Radio 4 today that this is a warning
00:07:51warning shot moment in the development development of AI and there is every
00:07:54every risk, he says. We might lose
00:07:55lose control of it unless it is regulated.
00:07:58regulated. I think that if we all
00:08:01all create AI that are able to act
00:08:04act autonomously, that can define define their own objectives, that that can earn
00:08:12That can earn money, that can own assets, that could run businesses. businesses. We're essentially seeding seeding a new silicon species, which
00:08:16which will no doubt compete with with us for resources, no matter
00:08:19matter how much it cares about humanity
00:08:21humanity and loves us, which is,
00:08:24is, I think, Anthropic's intention. intention. I think that is a mistaken
00:08:28mistaken and misguided. But we have have to empirically test it. And
00:08:31And so if they believe that this this is a safer route to developing
00:08:34developing AI's, then they have to to share the data to prove that.
00:08:38that. New silicon species is a chilling chilling phrase. It will make people
00:08:42people think of science fiction. fiction. You mean that, don't you?
00:08:44you? You mean that there could be
00:08:46be a competitor species created by
00:08:50by man? Perhaps more powerful than
00:08:52than man? We've just witnessed a
00:08:56a watershed moment in the development
00:08:58development of AI and a model that
00:09:00that was being trained by OpenAI
00:09:04OpenAI inadvertently hacked into
00:09:06into Hugging Face, which is a public
00:09:09public website that runs evaluations
00:09:11evaluations and benchmarks for testing
00:09:14testing these agents. The swarm of
00:09:17of agents co-ordinated together.
00:09:18together. They organised themselves themselves into hierarchies. They
00:09:22They created a division of labour, labour, and so they've developed
00:09:25developed very, very complex behaviour.
00:09:27behaviour. Now the good news is this
00:09:30this was OpenAI developing a model model deliberately with the guardrails
00:09:34guardrails turned off. And they were were doing that to try and stress
00:09:37stress test it and learn about its its boundaries and limitations. I
00:09:41I just wonder if you ever worry you've
00:09:43you've helped create something that that we're losing control of. I think
00:09:46think as we've seen, there's every every risk that we might lose control
00:09:49control of it. But our job is to
00:09:52to contain technologies and align align them so that we get the best
00:09:55best out of them. If we didn't have have any air traffic control regulation,
00:09:58regulation, planes would be hitting hitting each other in the sky. When
00:10:02When we introduced seat belts, we we saved millions of lives. The purpose
00:10:05purpose of regulation is to shape
00:10:08shape and sculpt technology so that that it delivers more good than harm.
00:10:11harm. And that's the moment that that we're currently now in. So I
00:10:14I think it's right to be concerned, concerned, as I said, or worried
00:10:17worried or alarmed as you wish. But But it's also right to be optimistic
00:10:21optimistic about the benefits and and to have everybody focus now on
00:10:24on the challenge of governing and
00:10:26and shaping this technology. Mustafa Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft
00:10:30Microsoft AI, speaking to Nick Robinson Robinson on the Today Programme on
00:10:34on radio four. The Bank of England England will make its latest decision
00:10:38decision on interest rates in a few few hours' time. It is widely expected
00:10:41expected to hold the cost of borrowing
00:10:43borrowing in today's meeting, despite despite facing an increasing rate
00:10:46rate of price rises. The latest figures
00:10:49figures on Wednesday showed inflation inflation hitting 3.1% in August.
00:10:52August. That's the highest level level for five months, driven largely
00:10:56largely by increases in fuel costs.
00:10:58costs. The Federal Reserve, that's that's the US central bank, has raised
00:11:01raised interest rates for the first first time in more than three years
00:11:05years to curb stubbornly rising prices prices there, The Fed raised its
00:11:08its benchmark rate by a quarter of
00:11:11of a percentage point, and it indicated indicated it could do so again before
00:11:14before the end of the year. Federal Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Warsh
00:11:18Warsh says the American economy is is broadly in good shape, but inflation
00:11:21inflation has been high too high
00:11:23high for too long. The guy Donald
00:11:26Donald Trump handpicked to run America's America's central bank has just done
00:11:30done the very thing the President President did not want him to do.
00:11:33do. So why has Kevin Warsh just put
00:11:35put interest rates up? Well, it's
00:11:38it's partly Donald Trump's own fault. fault. The increase in the price
00:11:41price of oil caused by the war in in Iran is one of the reasons behind
00:11:45behind the rate rise. It is the Federal Federal Reserve's job to keep inflation
00:11:49inflation down. So that means if if prices are going up, they are
00:11:52are more likely to put interest rates rates up. Donald Trump wants low
00:11:56low interest rates because then consumers
00:11:58consumers who would be spending less less on credit cards, loans, mortgages,
00:12:02mortgages, things like that would would feel better about their money money and about the economy. And
00:12:05And that might make them more likely likely to vote for his Republican
00:12:09Republican candidates in November's November's mid-term elections. He
00:12:11He will see rates going up as a blow
00:12:14blow to his election prospects. Interest Interest rates are too high. They're
00:12:18They're not appropriate. And I told told I talked to Kevin and I said,
00:12:21said, you might as well vote with with the board because it's not going going to matter. The President tried
00:12:25tried to bully the last fed chair
00:12:27chair into lowering rates. He called
00:12:29called Jerome Powell a total loser
00:12:31loser and a moron. The administration administration launched a criminal criminal investigation into him,
00:12:35him, even though they've now dropped dropped that in May. The President
00:12:37President got to pick the new fed fed chair, Kevin Warsh, and he's
00:12:41he's still not getting what he wants. wants. After today's announcement, announcement, Donald Trump was posting
00:12:45posting on social media demanding demanding rates have to be lowered
00:12:48lowered and it was his own candidate candidate who defied him by doing
00:12:51doing the opposite, by putting them them up. And worse than that, he
00:12:54he also said he might do the same same again before the end of the
00:12:58the year. That's our North America America editor, Sarah Smith in Washington.
00:13:02Washington. In Russia, tomorrow is is the start of three days of voting
00:13:05voting in the country's parliamentary parliamentary election, the first
00:13:07first since Russia's full-scale invasion invasion of Ukraine. Critics dismissed
00:13:11dismissed the vote as neither free free nor transparent, but the Kremlin
00:13:15Kremlin is expected to use it to to claim that Russia is united behind
00:13:18behind the policies of President President Putin. From Moscow, our
00:13:21our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg
00:13:24Rosenberg reports. Ultimate power
00:13:25power in Russia lies right here in
00:13:28in the Kremlin. But just across the
00:13:31the road there is a parliament, the
00:13:33the Duma, and it's election time. time. So what is a parliamentary
00:13:36parliamentary election like now in
00:13:37in Russia. Well, on TV we've seen
00:13:42seen election debates sort of none none of the candidates turned up
00:13:45up for this one. And there has been
00:13:49been some campaigning. We caught caught up with the Communist Party
00:13:52Party chief at a bakery. At times, times, though, it's been hard to
00:13:56to tell the difference between the the ten parties that have been allowed
00:14:00allowed onto the ballot. None of of them criticise President Putin
00:14:02Putin or the war in Ukraine. And
00:14:05And if the political process feels feels rather orchestrated, keep in
00:14:09in mind that the political system system in Russia is often referred
00:14:11referred to as managed democracy, democracy, where the Kremlin does
00:14:15does the managing and I think the the Kremlin will try to use this
00:14:18this election to claim that the country
00:14:20country is united behind the President
00:14:23President and behind the war. There
00:14:26There are some individual candidates candidates in some seats calling
00:14:29calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine. Ukraine. But their party, which is
00:14:32is called Yabloko and which is anti-war, anti-war, isn't allowed to take part
00:14:36part in this election as a party party in its own right. It was struck
00:14:40struck off the ballot by the Supreme
00:14:43Supreme Court, 50 miles from Moscow. Moscow. We didn't see much sign of
00:14:46of an election. There were a few few banners, few election posters,
00:14:49posters, but from chatting to people, people, there was every sign that
00:14:53that the war is front and centre
00:14:54centre of people's minds. I want
00:14:58want a peaceful life, Yulia told.
00:15:01told. Me. I'd like to live in a peaceful
00:15:06peaceful country, says Polina, so so that you don't have to worry that
00:15:08that a drone will fall down in front
00:15:10front of you. But expectations are
00:15:12are low that this election will bring
00:15:15bring peace any closer. Steve Rosenberg
00:15:19Rosenberg reporting around the world
00:15:20world and across the UK.
00:16:22the track without a driver. Join
00:16:22Join me Martin Sharkey of Tech, now
00:16:26now on BBC News. Russia says it hit
00:16:34hit three drone producing plants plants in overnight attacks on Kyiv
00:16:37Kyiv and the surrounding region.
00:16:39region. It says it also hit two road road bridges over the river, which
00:16:43which it claims are used to supply
00:16:46supply weapons from Romania to Ukraine. Ukraine. Several people were wounded
00:16:49wounded in a Russian drone attack
00:16:51attack on a 19 storey residential residential building in Odesa. These
00:16:54These pictures, which have just come come in, show the extent of the damage.
00:16:58damage. You can see the Odesa Regional
00:17:01Regional State Emergency Service
00:17:03Service combing through the debris.
00:17:06debris. Palestinian officials say say the US has again denied a visa
00:17:10visa to Palestinian Authority President President Mahmoud Abbas, forcing
00:17:13forcing him to address the UN General
00:17:15General Assembly remotely for a second second year. Dozens of officials officials travelling with him have
00:17:19have also been denied visas. The
00:17:21The US says the decision reflects
00:17:24reflects failures to reform and concerns
00:17:26concerns over support for terrorism. terrorism. Our Middle East correspondent
00:17:29correspondent Yolande Knell has been been telling me more about the decision.
00:17:33decision. Well, the Trump administration
00:17:35administration accuses the Palestinian Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Palestine Liberation Organisation
00:17:39Organisation these two internationally internationally recognised bodies
00:17:41bodies that represent the Palestinian Palestinian people of glorifying
00:17:45glorifying terrorism, saying that that they have failed to carry out
00:17:48out promised reforms. And it accuses
00:17:50accuses them too of what it describes describes as internationalising.
00:17:53internationalising. The conflict
00:17:55conflict with Israel by going to to the International Criminal Court
00:17:59Court and the International Court Court of Justice, for example. Now
00:18:02Now we've not had a new Palestinian Palestinian response to all of this,
00:18:06this, not an official one, but what
00:18:10what was said previously when the the Palestinians were accused of
00:18:14of taking these unilateral steps steps is they said, well, you know,
00:18:18know, years of on and off talks brokered
00:18:21brokered by the US between the PLO
00:18:24PLO and Israel have failed to end end Israeli occupation, have failed
00:18:27failed to deliver on this promise promise of a Palestinian state. And
00:18:31And that's why they have taken other
00:18:33other diplomatic steps. Yolande in
00:18:35in Gaza. What is the latest on that that building collapse that killed
00:18:39killed a number of people on Wednesday?
00:18:44Wednesday? So according to the local
00:18:45local authorities, it's now 21 people,
00:18:49people, including 12 children and and five women, who are among those
00:18:52those killed. Their bodies having having been recovered from the rubble
00:18:55rubble of that six storey building building that collapsed in the early
00:18:58early hours of yesterday morning
00:19:01morning with some 45 people taken
00:19:03taken to hospital for medical treatment.
00:19:06treatment. On top of that. And we've we've been looking at the latest
00:19:09latest footage coming from the scene
00:19:12scene with just one excavator still
00:19:14still working there and some relatives relatives of those who have been
00:19:18been injured coming to collect clothes clothes and belongings, what they
00:19:21they could try to find in the rubble.
00:19:24rubble. But this event has really
00:19:27really underlined the real dangers dangers that there are for Palestinians.
00:19:30Palestinians. Many people have been
00:19:32been complaining in recent months
00:19:35months that there is not suitable suitable shelter, not new tents coming
00:19:38coming in, that they were resorting
00:19:39resorting to going into these unsafe
00:19:42unsafe buildings so that they could
00:19:44could take some shelter from the the elements with their families.
00:19:47families. And we've had the UN flagging
00:19:49flagging up that there are about
00:19:52about 400 buildings across the Gaza Gaza Strip, which are really sort
00:19:56sort of at high risk of collapse, collapse, the same as this one, and
00:19:59and that there are families living living in many of those locations.
00:20:02locations. And so the UN has come come out saying that the tragedy
00:20:06tragedy underscores the grave risks. risks. This is a local UN official
00:20:10official responsible for humanitarian humanitarian co-ordination and saying
00:20:12saying that there is an urgent need need now for safer alternatives. alternatives. They're calling for
00:20:16for the Israeli authorities to work work with humanitarian agencies to
00:20:20to allow more suitable shelters into
00:20:22into Gaza. Yolande Knell. President President Trump has threatened to
00:20:25to cut trade with the European Union Union if it pursues a proposal to
00:20:28to make Canada the bloc's first ever
00:20:31ever associate member. Describing Describing the plan as laughable,
00:20:34laughable, Mr Trump said he would would view it as a hostile act that
00:20:37that could prompt further tariffs tariffs on the EU. The European Commission Commission president, Ursula von
00:20:41von der Leyen, had told the European European Parliament that she wanted
00:20:45wanted to work on opening the door
00:20:47door for Canada. Torrential rain rain is causing havoc in northeastern
00:20:51northeastern Spain, flooding houses houses and closing roads, metros
00:20:55metros and airports. Residents of of Catalonia and Valencia regions
00:20:57regions have been urged to avoid avoid unnecessary travel and exercise.
00:21:01exercise. Extreme caution. 70mm of of rain fell in just 30 minutes in
00:21:05in some parts of the Valencia region, region, forcing the cancellation
00:21:08cancellation of a top flight football football match. A formal request
00:21:12request has been lodged by British British prosecutors for the extradition
00:21:15extradition from the US of brothers brothers Andrew and Tristan Tait
00:21:18Tait to face rape and sex trafficking trafficking charges. But a lawyer
00:21:22lawyer for the social media influencers influencers has accused the UK authorities
00:21:24authorities of failing to provide provide the documentation required
00:21:27required in support of the applications
00:21:29applications for them to be removed.
00:21:35removed. 117 that is the age of Ethel Ethel Caterham, the world's oldest
00:21:39oldest person, she lives in Surrey, Surrey, not far from London. Ethel
00:21:43Ethel is also the oldest British
00:21:45British person in recorded history. history. Born in Edwardian times,
00:21:48times, the oldest living person title title is forever changing and now
00:21:52now these very senior citizens have have become the subject of a documentary
00:21:55documentary put together by a New New York based filmmaker Talking
00:21:59Talking Movies as Tom Brook went
00:22:00went to meet him. I know this might
00:22:04might sound weird, but I've been
00:22:06been obsessed with the oldest person
00:22:09person in the world for years. Meet
00:22:13Meet adventurous, Brooklyn based, based, Oscar nominated filmmaker
00:22:15filmmaker Sam Green. Since 2015, 2015, he's been travelling the world,
00:22:19world, chronicling the forever changing changing holders of the title of
00:22:23of oldest person in the world. It's
00:22:25It's survey has included Kane Tanaka Tanaka in Japan, who held the title
00:22:29title for four years. And then there's
00:22:31there's the oldest person ever, Jeanne
00:22:33Jeanne Louise Calment, who when she
00:22:36she died in 1997, was 122 years old.
00:22:38old. In her later years she recorded recorded a rap album, the thing I
00:22:42I liked about the film Sam Green's Green's investigation of these very
00:22:45very senior citizens has become a a lifelong project. A documentary
00:22:49documentary based on his survey so so far has just been released. His
00:22:53His long been fascinated by why the
00:22:54the news media and the public are
00:22:57are so interested in the title holder holder of the oldest person in the
00:23:01the world. To this day I still don't
00:23:03don't fully understand it. Is this
00:23:05this a fear of death? Is this a fear
00:23:07fear of fate or a you know, one of
00:23:10of those things like with the car
00:23:12car crash where you can't look away
00:23:15away but you don't want to look at at it? In making his documentary,
00:23:18documentary, Sam Green found there there was nearly always a desire desire on the part of others to find
00:23:22find out if there's a secret to longevity.
00:23:25longevity. The elderly people, he he observed, had all kinds of answers
00:23:28answers for why they'd led a long long life. One woman stated she'd
00:23:32she'd live for a long time because because she'd stayed away from men.
00:23:35men. She also said her secret was was eating three raw eggs a day.
00:23:39day. Two, you know, so it's like like the media descends on these
00:23:42these people. Everybody asks them them what their secret is and they
00:23:46they say something and everybody everybody runs with that. This documentary
00:23:49documentary often shows that other other people, the outside world is
00:23:52is often much more intrigued by the the oldest person in the world than
00:23:56than the subjects who hold that title.
00:23:58title. But this film isn't just about about the very old. It's also about
00:24:02about life and death and events in in the filmmaker's own life the birth
00:24:06birth of a son and his own confrontation
00:24:08confrontation with a life threatening threatening illness. These things
00:24:11things started to creep into the the movie, so over time it becomes
00:24:14becomes a larger meditation, I hope,
00:24:17hope, about time and the mysteries mysteries of being alive and fate
00:24:20fate and all these big questions
00:24:23questions that we ask ourselves.
00:24:26ourselves. The last person I interviewed, interviewed, a Spanish woman named
00:24:29named Maria Branyas, she was very very funny. She even was making fun
00:24:33fun of me, which I loved. But in.
00:24:35in. At a moment in the interview
00:24:37interview she said, you are young.
00:24:39young. I know. So each of us. Now
00:24:41Now is the time to do good works.
00:24:44works. But she was saying is you're
00:24:46you're young and you have time, so
00:24:48so use it. And I think that's a beautiful
00:24:54beautiful thing to appreciate. Over Over the last ten years, Sam Green
00:24:58Green has met many of those who've who've held the title of oldest person
00:25:01person in the world. But there's there's been one holdout the current
00:25:05current title holder, 117-year-old 117-year-old Ethel Caterham, who
00:25:08who lives in Surrey just outside
00:25:10outside London. She was born in Edwardian
00:25:12Edwardian times. She is the first
00:25:14first person in ten years who has
00:25:18has rebuffed my overtures. But she she did let King Charles visit her,
00:25:21her, didn't she? When I saw a video
00:25:23video of her in King Charles and
00:25:26and I thought, Charles, not me. You
00:25:29You know she's British. She's the
00:25:31the last Edwardian. So I guess she
00:25:33she feels some allegiance to the the King. But you know, come on. on. I've been doing this for ten
00:25:37ten years. Even though this documentary documentary focuses on the very old
00:25:41old and very fragile. It makes the the point that there is much to learn
00:25:45learn from observing them and from from the filmmaker himself about
00:25:48about what it means to live a thoughtful
00:25:50thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly
00:25:53unexpectedly life affirming film.
00:25:56film. Tom Brook, BBC News New York.
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