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00:00:15MUSIC These These are the latest headlines from
00:00:17from BBC News. King Charles warns warns of the existential dangers
00:00:21dangers of AI systems falling into into the wrong hands as he addresses
00:00:24addresses tech leaders at a summit summit in Scotland. The Duke of Sussex
00:00:28Sussex has been seen for the first first time in public since returning returning to the UK, when he arrived
00:00:31arrived at an award ceremony for for the Invictus Games. More allegations
00:00:35allegations from Earl Spencer and and the latest extract from his book
00:00:38book on Princess Diana. He claims claims then Prince Charles sounded
00:00:41sounded giddily elated on the night night Princess Diana died. South
00:00:45South African police say they found found a ninth woman killed near Johannesburg
00:00:48Johannesburg in a spate of murders, murders, causing fear and outrage
00:00:51outrage in the country. Hope for for thousands of women with incurable
00:00:55incurable breast cancer as a new new life extending drug becomes available
00:00:58available on the NHS. Two years after
00:01:00after it was deemed too expensive.
00:01:08expensive. Welcome back. Let's focus focus now on one of the big global
00:01:11global stories of the day. You heard heard it there in those headlines headlines news that a ninth woman's
00:01:15woman's body has been found in South South Africa as police investigate
00:01:18investigate a string of deaths. My My colleague Matthew Amroliwala has
00:01:21has been looking at fears the murder murder could be the work of a serial
00:01:25serial killer. A ninth body has been
00:01:29been discovered in Dawn Park here here in Ekurhuleni. She was found
00:01:33found partially naked with her throat throat cut. Raising fears of a potential
00:01:37potential serial killer on the loose. loose. We are even scared now to
00:01:40to come out of your house. You are are scared to go to the shop. You You are scared to go anywhere. We
00:01:44We are no longer free. Women have have been urged not to walk or run
00:01:47run alone and avoid secluded spaces. spaces. UN data puts South Africa's
00:01:51Africa's femicide rate at 12.2 women
00:01:55women per 100,000, nearly six times times the global average. It is not
00:01:59not OK that you'll be afraid to just
00:02:01just take a walk. A spate of killings
00:02:08killings in South Africa has caused caused fear and outrage. The bodies
00:02:12bodies of nine women have been found
00:02:15found in two months, all partially partially or fully naked. Well, over
00:02:18over the next ten minutes or so we'll we'll be asking could the murders
00:02:22murders have been committed by a a serial killer? And look at the
00:02:25the scale of gender based violence violence in South Africa. Well, the
00:02:28the first victim was found in mid-July,
00:02:31mid-July, the second in late August. August. The others all discovered
00:02:35discovered this month east of Johannesburg.
00:02:36Johannesburg. The latest had her
00:02:39her throat cut. The area they were
00:02:41were all found in was the Ekurhuleni Ekurhuleni area, which is a major
00:02:45major urban area in Gauteng province.
00:02:47province. Our South Africa correspondent correspondent Nomsa Maseko reports
00:02:50reports from the scene of that latest latest discovery. The woman whose
00:02:54whose body was found here earlier earlier is believed to be in her
00:02:57her 30s. She was found partially partially naked with her throat cut.
00:03:01cut. Police believe she was murdered murdered elsewhere and that her body
00:03:05body was deliberately dumped here here near a residential area so that
00:03:08that her body could be found. The The recent spate of killings has
00:03:12has sparked public outrage and fear, fear, raising new questions about
00:03:16about the scale of gender based violence violence in South Africa. There's
00:03:19There's widespread speculation that that the recent murders have been
00:03:22been committed by a serial killer, killer, but police have not confirmed
00:03:26confirmed this yet. The acting police police commissioner has said investigators
00:03:30investigators are following up on on all possible leads. Women have
00:03:33have been urged not to walk or run
00:03:35run alone and avoid secluded spaces.
00:03:38spaces. Officials have said the warnings warnings are not about restricting
00:03:41restricting the freedom of women women to move, exercise or live their
00:03:45their lives, but that it's all about about taking reasonable precautions
00:03:49precautions while police continue continue with their investigations.
00:03:52investigations. Well, there's widespread widespread speculation that the murders murders have been committed by a
00:03:56a serial killer, but police have
00:03:58have not confirmed that. We are still
00:04:00still at that stage that we need
00:04:03need to connect the dots with the
00:04:06the information that is currently currently at hand, just to see if
00:04:10if there is any connection that can can be established. We are looking
00:04:14looking at correlation. We are looking looking at the linkage. We are looking
00:04:17looking at commonalities. We are are looking at the pattern. So it
00:04:20it is that process that we are undertaking
00:04:22undertaking to see if these cases
00:04:24cases are related or it's single
00:04:28single individual that is operating. operating. But by the look of things
00:04:31things you have already have one
00:04:33one person arrested on one matter.
00:04:36matter. Well, with more on the police
00:04:38police investigation and those fears fears about a serial killer, here's
00:04:42here's Nomsa again. All nine bodies
00:04:43bodies were found here in the Ekurhuleni Ekurhuleni municipality in the east
00:04:47east of Johannesburg. Over the last last two months, raising concerns
00:04:51concerns that they may have been been carried out by the same person
00:04:55person or people. Police have previously previously said some similarities
00:04:58similarities in the killings of the the first eight were concerning,
00:05:01concerning, but stopped short of of saying that the murders could
00:05:04could be linked. But what is certain,
00:05:07certain, though, is that women here here in South Africa fear for their
00:05:11their lives. Well, let's hear from from some of those women who say
00:05:14say they no longer feel safe. I'm
00:05:16I'm scared. I'm angry. I'm upset.
00:05:18upset. I'm. I'm nervous. I am everything.
00:05:21everything. I'm shattered. This is
00:05:24is bad in the a country where there
00:05:28there is democracy. But we experience. experience. We are faced with this
00:05:31this challenge of murdering women.
00:05:33women. We are parents. We are young.
00:05:36young. We we like. We are even scared scared now to come out of your house.
00:05:40house. You are scared to go to the the shop. You are scared to go anywhere.
00:05:42anywhere. We are no longer free in in the country. We're supposed to
00:05:45to be free and to be safe as women.
00:05:47women. It is not OK that you'll be
00:05:50be afraid to go to the shop. It is
00:05:52is not OK that you'll be afraid to
00:05:54to go in gym. It is not OK that you'll
00:05:56you'll be afraid to just take a walk.
00:05:58walk. Well, to give you a sense of of the shock in the local community,
00:06:02community, I want to just show you you the front page of the star, one
00:06:05one of the main newspapers in the
00:06:07the area. It printed one word enough
00:06:10enough in bright red on a black page
00:06:12page in what the editorial said was was deliberately stark. It went on
00:06:16on to say that the reason they made made the decision was to stand against
00:06:20against the relentless killing of
00:06:21of women in South Africa. Well, South
00:06:24South Africa's President Cyril Ramaphosa, Ramaphosa, issued a statement promising
00:06:28promising everything will be done done to find the killers. These incidents
00:06:32incidents are causing fear and uncertainty uncertainty in our communities and
00:06:35and especially among women. I have have directed that these cases be
00:06:38be prioritised and that no stone stone be left unturned in bringing
00:06:41bringing those responsible to justice. justice. Well, listen now to South
00:06:45South African Government Minister Minister for women who joined families
00:06:49families and community members in in remembering those who have lost
00:06:52lost their lives. If you are a Minister
00:06:55Minister of women and nine women
00:06:58women are killed, it kills you. It
00:07:01It kills you. You. You have. You
00:07:03You can't sleep at night because
00:07:07because you have a responsibility responsibility to ensure that women women of South Africa are safe and
00:07:11and happy. And when that happened
00:07:13happened doesn't happen. It kills kills everything in you. As a minister,
00:07:17minister, but as a woman as well.
00:07:19well. The killings have raised questions questions about the scale of gender
00:07:22gender based violence in South Africa.
00:07:25Africa. So how bad is it? Will Sabrina Sabrina Walter is founder of women
00:07:29women for Change in South Africa,
00:07:30Africa, who last year mobilised nationwide
00:07:33nationwide shutdown to honour victims victims of gender based violence
00:07:36violence and femicide. In South Africa,
00:07:39Africa, is incredibly strong. Laws
00:07:41Laws and policies in regards to gender gender based violence and femicide.
00:07:45femicide. We actually have a national national strategic response plan
00:07:49plan that came in, in 2020. However,
00:07:52However, we are working on the ground ground and the front lines every
00:07:55every single day. Speaking to survivors
00:07:58survivors and families of the women women who have been lost and they
00:08:01they don't see a difference this this moment, it's a very heavy moment
00:08:04moment for the women in South Africa
00:08:07Africa and for the men and for the
00:08:08the children. I always say it femicide femicide and gender based violence
00:08:12violence affect everyone. It affects
00:08:14affects businesses, it affects women, women, obviously, but it affects
00:08:17affects also the men and the children children in this country. So women
00:08:21women are in absolute fear. But again,
00:08:23again, this is nothing new. We had
00:08:27had 5578 women being killed in 2020,
00:08:302020, 2024. And we live with this this feeling every single day. Well,
00:08:34Well, gender based violence in South South Africa is nearly six times
00:08:38times the global average. But how how does it compare with the rest
00:08:41rest of the world? Our global population population correspondent Stephanie
00:08:44Stephanie Hegarty has been looking looking at the numbers. So the rate
00:08:47rate of. Female homicide in South South Africa is one of the highest
00:08:50highest in the world. It's 12.2 per per 100,000 of the population. So
00:08:54So if you put that into perspective, perspective, take a city like London
00:08:58London where the population is just just over 9 million. If the homicide homicide the female homicide rate
00:09:02rate in London was 12.2, that would
00:09:05would mean 1100 women or more were were killed every year, whereas we
00:09:08we know the number in London in 2024
00:09:102024 was 22. So that's a massive
00:09:12massive difference. And to put this this into a global perspective, if
00:09:15if you look at the latest figures figures from the UN Office of Drugs
00:09:19Drugs and Crime, where South Africa's Africa's rate of female homicide
00:09:22homicide is 12.2, a country like
00:09:24like the US is much lower. It's 2.6.
00:09:282.6. India is 2.4, and many countries countries in Europe are well below
00:09:31below one. So South Africa is really really ranking very high compared
00:09:34compared to all of those countries. countries. There are some places places that at the moment are even
00:09:38even higher. Haiti has a female homicide
00:09:41homicide rate of 14 per 100,000 of
00:09:44of the population. And the Guyana
00:09:46Guyana and country on the Caribbean
00:09:49Caribbean coast is around 11. So So but still South Africa ranking
00:09:52ranking very high there. The places places that rank the lowest in these
00:09:56these UN statistics, Singapore is is lowest and then Indonesia. But
00:09:59But it's worth bearing in mind that that there are lots of places we
00:10:01we just don't have data for China, China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, many parts
00:10:05parts of South East Asia don't appear
00:10:08appear in these statistics. And also also worth remembering is these really
00:10:12really rely on local data being supplied supplied by hospitals, by police
00:10:15police and by court services. And And there are lots of places where
00:10:18where that information just isn't isn't being gathered. Well. And that's
00:10:22that's all you need to know about
00:10:23about the spate of murders in South South Africa.
00:11:31Gdansk. Join me, Julie Lynn, for for discovering the world's table.
00:11:33table. Poland on BBC News. From today,
00:11:41today, patients in England with a a type of incurable breast cancer
00:11:44cancer will be able to get a life life extending drug on the NHS. Two
00:11:48Two years ago it was rejected as as not good value for money. But
00:11:51But that decision has been reversed reversed largely because of a wider
00:11:54wider trade deal with the United United States. Our health correspondent
00:11:57correspondent Catherine Burns has has been meeting some of those women.
00:11:59women. It could help. Oh, my God.
00:12:07God. When? What? How? This is the
00:12:10the moment when Kate Wills found found out she will be able to have
00:12:13have a drug that could keep her alive
00:12:15alive for longer. I am. I can't really
00:12:19really believe it. You know, I just just said to you. I've got a scan
00:12:23scan results. I have another scan scan in two weeks that may show that
00:12:27that I need this drug and I haven't
00:12:33haven't really dared to think about
00:12:35about what would happen. I am I can't
00:12:41can't believe it. Kate's a busy woman
00:12:44woman keeping fit, working and being being with her family. She's also
00:12:48also living with secondary breast breast cancer. It spread to her bones
00:12:51bones and lungs. We first met her
00:12:54her and her friend Jeannie almost almost two years ago. They wanted
00:12:57wanted a drug that could slow down
00:12:59down the progression of their cancer.
00:13:01cancer. Enhertu Jeannie was frustrated frustrated that she couldn't get
00:13:05get Enhertu the health advisory body. body. Nice had said it wasn't value
00:13:08value for money in England, Wales Wales and Northern Ireland followed
00:13:12followed that advice too. When we
00:13:13we first covered this story, patients
00:13:16patients in 19 countries in Europe,
00:13:18Europe, including Scotland, could
00:13:20could get Enhertu over time. That's
00:13:23That's gone up to 27. All along, along, Kate and others have kept
00:13:26kept fighting, including at this
00:13:28this protest in July. The empty shoes shoes were to represent women who
00:13:32who died before they could get Enhertu,
00:13:34Enhertu, including Jeannie, who died
00:13:37died in January. But from today, today, Enhertu will be available
00:13:40available on the NHS in England. England. So what's changed? We understand
00:13:44understand that drug companies haven't haven't particularly lowered their
00:13:47their prices and that this is actually actually the result of a trade deal
00:13:50deal with the USA, where the UK government government has agreed to spend 25%
00:13:5425% more on medicines. Some of those those changes have just kicked in,
00:13:57in, which has tipped the balance. balance. Helen Knight is director
00:14:01director of medicines evaluation evaluation at Nice and says we know
00:14:04know this decision comes too late late for many families and our thoughts
00:14:07thoughts are with them today. Our Our role is important in ensuring
00:14:11ensuring NHS spending on new medicines medicines reflects the benefits they
00:14:14they deliver. Wales is going to make make Enhertu available soon, but
00:14:18but this decision doesn't automatically automatically apply in Northern Ireland.
00:14:21Ireland. Kate's first thought is is for friends she's lost, including
00:14:25including Jeannie, but she knows knows this decision could make all
00:14:27all the difference for her family.
00:14:31family. Catherine Burns, BBC News. News. Well, let's speak now to Jessica
00:14:35Jessica Duggan, who. Is currently currently undergoing treatment on on an Enhertu. Jessica, thank you
00:14:38you so much for joining us on. Thank Thank you for having me. No problem
00:14:42problem at all. So first of all, all, just tell me a little bit about
00:14:45about your story, about your diagnosis.
00:14:48diagnosis. Well, I was originally
00:14:52originally diagnosed in 2017 and and had surgery and we hope preventative
00:14:56preventative chemotherapy and radiotherapy. radiotherapy. And then five years
00:14:59years on hormone treatment, which which worked brilliantly. And I had
00:15:02had a lovely life with my young children.
00:15:04children. But unfortunately it returned
00:15:07returned in 2023 and metastasised. metastasised. So I've been on various
00:15:11various treatments since then, one one of which worked really well was
00:15:13was chemotherapy tablet called Capecitabine. Capecitabine. But unfortunately that's
00:15:16that's stopped working in September. September. So I have had a period
00:15:20period of a few months of all the
00:15:24the NHS treatments that were available
00:15:26available just weren't working, including
00:15:29including chemotherapies and a trial trial at the Marsden, which unfortunately unfortunately also didn't work. So
00:15:33So in that period of time, the cancer's
00:15:36cancer's progressed very, very quickly
00:15:38quickly and aggressively. And so so it was basically everywhere. And
00:15:42And unfortunately in July we got got told that with the treatments
00:15:45treatments available on the NHS,
00:15:46NHS, I had about six weeks to live.
00:15:50live. And so I inquired again about about Enhertu and said we thought
00:15:53thought we could crowdfund and the the doctors were actually very supportive.
00:15:58supportive. And so that's where we we are today is I've had four rounds
00:16:02rounds of Enhertu paid through crowdfunding
00:16:05crowdfunding and it's worked. The The fact that I'm even alive today today is testament of how brilliantly
00:16:09brilliantly it's worked for me. That That is amazing. And it just shows,
00:16:12shows, doesn't it, that it does work. work. How do you feel now that you're.
00:16:15you're. Yeah. How do you feel now now that you hear it's on the NHS
00:16:19NHS and you could potentially get get it on the NHS without having
00:16:22having to crowdfund. Yes. For myself
00:16:25myself personally, a huge sense of of relief because the crowdfunding
00:16:28crowdfunding pot is starting to run run dry. So it was a big dilemma
00:16:31dilemma of what do we do now? And
00:16:34And so yes, it's confirmed I can can have I literally have my trip
00:16:38trip last crowdfunded treatment today.
00:16:41today. And so it all felt the timing timing all felt very wonderful getting
00:16:45getting that news. So my next treatment
00:16:47treatment in three weeks will be
00:16:49be back on the NHS, which is just just fabulous and it takes huge pressure
00:16:52pressure off all my friends and family family as well as myself that we
00:16:56we can access this drug for as long long as it works without having to
00:17:00to worry about the financial burden burden of how to fund it. OK, well,
00:17:03well, Jessica, I'm so grateful to to you for coming on to the BBC and
00:17:06and talking to us about this, and
00:17:07and I wish you all the absolute very very best with the future as well.
00:17:11well. Thank you so much. Thank you,
00:17:15you, thank you. Now Robert Kraft,
00:17:17Kraft, the US stadium owner who had had pro-Palestinian rapper Macklemore
00:17:21Macklemore removed as Ed Sheeran's Sheeran's opening act, says Sheeran
00:17:23Sheeran asked him to match his own
00:17:26own $2 million donation for aid to to the region. This all follows the
00:17:29the news on Tuesday. If you remember remember that all of Ed Sheeran's
00:17:32Sheeran's support acts had quit his his Loek tour in solidarity with
00:17:35with fellow support act Macklemore
00:17:38Macklemore after he was dropped from
00:17:40from making for Making pro-Palestinian pro-Palestinian remarks on stage.
00:17:43stage. Now, when you think of the the world's best pizza, you probably
00:17:46probably having in your mind some some delicious Margherita marinara
00:17:50marinara enjoyed in the winding cobbled cobbled streets of Naples in Italy. Italy. But what if I told you the
00:17:53the best pizza in the world or the
00:17:55the best pizzeria can be found in
00:17:58in west London? A London restaurant restaurant aptly named Napoli on
00:18:01on the Road has been named the best
00:18:03best pizzeria on the planet at the
00:18:07the 50 Top Pizza World Awards 2026. 2026. It beat tough competition from
00:18:09from pizzerias in Italy, the United United States and indeed around the
00:18:13the world. Well, Napoli on the road road started as a three wheeled truck
00:18:16truck in London streets and now boasts boasts three restaurants in London
00:18:20London and an award as well, while while Chef Michele Pascarella, who
00:18:24who himself is originally from Naples Naples in Italy, joined me in the
00:18:27the studio and told me the secret secret to award winning pizzas. Because
00:18:31Because for three years in a row row we won Best Pizzeria in Europe
00:18:34Europe for that guide. And we always
00:18:36always see like journalists talking
00:18:39talking about is excluding Italy. Italy. But this time we won best
00:18:43best pizzeria in the world, including including Italy. So it means a lot
00:18:46lot for us. So what makes a good good pizza? Because I know there there are people out there who are
00:18:50are watching this who like a good good Domino's, other ones like a
00:18:52a nice deep pan pizza. But this pizza pizza which you very kindly brought
00:18:55brought in for me to scoff is a proper, proper, you know, Italian style pizza.
00:18:59pizza. What is it about this that that makes it so delicious? I'm going
00:19:02going to just try it while you talk. talk. This one is the is called recorded
00:19:06recorded Infanzia it's a is a pizza.
00:19:08pizza. In childhood. Yes. Right. Right. It's because when I was like
00:19:11like a child I was already working working in the hospitality. I usually
00:19:15usually wake up very late on Sunday Sunday Morning and my mum was slow
00:19:18slow cooked the ragu from the day day before we were going with my
00:19:22my brothers in the kitchen and as as a breakfast we dipped the bread
00:19:25bread in the big pot of ragu and and because it was too hot we was
00:19:29was adding some Parmigiano. That's That's why I did this pizza like
00:19:33like with ragu cooked for 12 hours hours and then Parmigiano Reggiano.
00:19:37Reggiano. It's just amazing. It's It's so delicious. Obviously other other pizzas are also available,
00:19:40available, but they're not award award winning are they? Ultimately Ultimately this one won the best
00:19:44best pizza in the world last year. year. This year we just won best
00:19:47best pizzeria in the world. Like
00:19:49Like overall, all the restaurant.
00:19:54restaurant. Well that was Michele Michele Pascarella and his delicious delicious pizza. The rest of the
00:19:58the pizzas disappeared though I don't don't know where it's gone. I think think it may have disappeared into
00:20:01into the newsroom. Who knows? Now Now we are six years out from the
00:20:05the 2032 Olympics in Brisbane, but but mark your diaries for the rowing
00:20:08rowing and canoeing events because because there could be a lot of world
00:20:11world records broken. Why? Well, Well, because the event is going
00:20:14going to be held in a river that's that's home to around 500 saltwater
00:20:18saltwater crocodiles. So the competitors competitors will be rowing extra
00:20:22extra fast and keeping one eye on
00:20:24on the murky waters behind them.
00:20:26them. Fitzroy River 600km north of of Brisbane, has been deemed fit
00:20:29fit for purpose despite objections objections from a number of countries.
00:20:32countries. Critics say the river river is prone to flooding, has erratic erratic currents and natural bends
00:20:36bends that could make the races unfair.
00:20:49unfair. MUSIC MUSIC I
00:20:52I know this might sound weird, but
00:20:55but I've been obsessed with the oldest
00:20:57oldest person in the world for years years MUSIC
00:21:00MUSIC . . Meet adventurous Brooklyn based,
00:21:03based, Oscar nominated filmmaker filmmaker Sam Green. Since 2015,
00:21:072015, he's been travelling the world, world, chronicling the forever changing
00:21:11changing holders of the title of of oldest person in the world. It's
00:21:14It's survey has included Kane Tanaka
00:21:16Tanaka in Japan, who held the title
00:21:19title for four years. And then there's there's the oldest person ever Jeanne
00:21:23Jeanne Louise Calment, who when she
00:21:25she died in 1997, was 122 years old.
00:21:28old. In her later years she recorded recorded a rap album, the thing I
00:21:32I liked about the film Sam Green's Green's investigation of these very
00:21:35very senior citizens has become a a lifelong project. A documentary
00:21:38documentary based on his survey so so far has just been released. He's
00:21:42He's long been fascinated by why
00:21:43why the news media and the public
00:21:46public are so interested in the title title holder of the oldest person
00:21:50person in the world. To this day, day, I still don't fully understand
00:21:53understand it. Is this a fear of
00:21:55of death? Is this a fear of fate
00:21:59fate or a you know, one of those
00:22:00those things like with the car crash
00:22:03crash where you can't look away but
00:22:04but you don't want to look at it. it. In making his documentary, Sam
00:22:08Sam Green found there was nearly nearly always a desire on the part
00:22:11part of others to find out if there's there's a secret to longevity. The
00:22:15The elderly people, he observed, observed, had all kinds of answers
00:22:17answers for why they'd led a long long life. One woman stated she'd
00:22:21she'd live for a long time because because she'd stayed away from men.
00:22:24men. She also said her secret was was eating three raw eggs a day.
00:22:28day. Two, you know, so it's like like the media descends on these
00:22:31these people. Everybody asks them them what their secret is and they
00:22:35they say something and everybody everybody runs with that. This documentary
00:22:38documentary often shows that other other people, the outside world is
00:22:42is often much more intrigued by the the oldest person in the world than
00:22:45than the subjects who hold that title. title. But this film isn't just about
00:22:49about the very old. It's also about about life and death and events in
00:22:53in the filmmaker's own life the birth birth of a son and his own confrontation
00:22:57confrontation with a life threatening threatening illness. These things
00:23:00things started to creep into the the movie, so over time it becomes
00:23:03becomes a larger meditation, I hope
00:23:06hope about time and the mysteries mysteries of being alive and fate
00:23:09fate and all these big questions
00:23:12questions that we ask ourselves.
00:23:15ourselves. The last person I interviewed, interviewed, a Spanish woman named
00:23:18named Maria Branyas, she was very very funny. She even was making fun
00:23:22fun of me, which I love. But in. in. At a moment in the interview
00:23:26interview she said, you are young.
00:23:29young. Jobless. Now is the time to
00:23:32to do good works. What she was saying
00:23:34saying is you're young and you have
00:23:36have time, so use it. And I think
00:23:39think that's a beautiful thing to
00:23:43to appreciate. Over the last ten
00:23:46ten years, Sam Green has met many many of those who have held the title
00:23:49title of oldest person in the world. world. But there's been one holdout
00:23:53holdout the current title holder, holder, 117-year-old Ethel Caterham,
00:23:57Caterham, who lives in Surrey just just outside London. She was born
00:24:01born in Edwardian times. She is the
00:24:03the first person in ten years who
00:24:06who has rebuffed my overtures. But But she did let King Charles visit
00:24:10visit her, didn't she? When I saw
00:24:12saw a video of her in King Charles
00:24:15Charles and I thought, Charles, not
00:24:17not me, you know she is British.
00:24:19British. She's the last Edwardian
00:24:22Edwardian so I guess she feels some some allegiance to the King. But
00:24:24But you know, come on. I've been been doing this for ten years. Even
00:24:28Even though this documentary focuses focuses on the very old and very
00:24:31very fragile, it makes the point point that there is much to learn
00:24:34learn from observing them and from from the filmmaker himself about
00:24:37about what it means to live a thoughtful
00:24:39thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly
00:24:42unexpectedly life affirming film.
00:28:30MUSIC
00:28:33To me, trust is about presence. About
00:28:37About fostering relationships all
00:28:39all around the world over years. years. It's about patience, not rushing
00:28:43rushing to be the first. But striving striving to get it right. To get
00:28:46get to the truth. We can't just ask
00:28:48ask the questions. We have to question
00:28:51question the answers. Debate, debate, debate, debate. We have to create
00:28:54create a space for opposing voices voices to be heard. And challenged.
00:28:57challenged. We fight every day. To
00:29:00To earn your trust and we never take
00:29:02take it for granted. We capture the the story. Fact check the story.
00:29:06story. Break the story. We explore
00:29:08explore the story. So you can trust
00:29:11trust us to tell it.
00:30:08MUSIC
00:30:13Hello and welcome to The
00:30:15Context USA with me Caitriona Perry Perry in Washington. Me Christian
00:30:19Christian Fraser in London. Ahead Ahead this hour. King Charles gathers
00:30:22gathers the giants of artificial artificial intelligence at a summit
00:30:26summit here in the UK. Those in our
00:30:29our world who value deeply our humanity
00:30:33humanity and its vital moral component
00:30:35component are anxiously seeking your your reassurance that we will not
00:30:39not lose control of our destiny or
00:30:42or our souls. We're essentially seeding
00:30:47seeding a new silicon species, which which will no doubt compete with
00:30:50with us for resources, no matter matter how much it cares about humanity
00:30:53humanity and loves us. There are
00:30:55are some genuine concerns about how
00:30:57how safe these products are, but but there are also some other