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00:00:41Hello and good evening, welcome to this short news segment.
00:00:45Saudi Arabia has warned that it will respond
00:00:48decisively to yesterday's Houthi attacks in Yemen.
00:00:52The Houthis say that Saudi Arabia targeted about 50 locations
00:00:55in Yemeni territory with its airstrikes last night. Meanwhile,
00:00:59Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, is scheduled
00:01:02to meet with Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, the President of Egypt,
00:01:06in Cairo today. Saudi Arabia recently asked the US and Britain
00:01:10for more support in the fight against the Houthis.
00:01:13The Houthis' capture of a port and an island
00:01:17dominating Bab-el-Mandeb has created more
00:01:20problems for Saudi Arabia's oil exports.
00:01:24Global energy prices are rising due to
00:01:27the crisis in the Strait of Hormuz and Bab-el-Mandeb.
00:01:31For more analysis of these
00:01:34developments, my colleague Omid Parsanejad
00:01:37is with us here in the studio. Omid, the rising energy
00:01:41prices we are witnessing are something the Iranian side
00:01:44has been pursuing. One of the main pillars
00:01:48of today's strategy is exactly this. In fact, this
00:01:51confrontation between Iran and America has turned into a kind
00:01:55of endurance contest. Which of them can endure more?
00:01:59Will Iran, under the economic pressures resulting from sanctions
00:02:02and naval blockade, be ready sooner
00:02:06to surrender and make concessions, or will the Americans,
00:02:09under the pressure that this crisis
00:02:13in the energy market creates within
00:02:16American territory and the political cost
00:02:19it imposes on the government? As you said,
00:02:23Mr. Bin Salman is going to Egypt today
00:02:27and will probably ask the Egyptians to help them. They
00:02:31also recently signed a pact, the Mecca Pact between Iran, between
00:02:34Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan, which was a joint
00:02:38defense pact. And the Pakistanis, if you remember,
00:02:42a few days ago warned the Houthis that if they continue
00:02:46these operations, that pact might be activated, and
00:02:49now it seems that Saudi Arabia is trying to
00:02:53convince Egypt to get involved in a conflict
00:02:57with the Houthis. They also asked Britain and reported.
00:03:11All countries in the world want this to turn into
00:03:15an international economic crisis. Now we know,
00:03:18apart from the rising oil prices and such,
00:03:21which have been going up,
00:03:24the shortage of, for example, liquefied natural gas is
00:03:27a serious issue now. India and China cannot buy the liquefied natural gas they need,
00:03:31it's not available in the market at all, prices are going up.
00:03:34And tomorrow, Mr. Araqchi,
00:03:38Iran's foreign minister, is scheduled to go to China and meet
00:03:41with his Chinese counterpart, and it is predicted that they will probably
00:03:45discuss this issue with him. The Chinese are probably not very happy with
00:03:49this situation that is happening in the energy crisis, in the energy market.
00:03:52Therefore, as you said, it is true that Iran
00:03:56wants the crisis in the energy market to escalate and
00:04:00remain, but it's also a double-edged sword, meaning
00:04:04it will probably hear criticisms from its own supporters
00:04:07in this regard. The US has imposed more sanctions, meaning
00:04:11it is increasing sanction pressure. The US is increasing sanction pressure.
00:04:15They sanctioned a Russian bank which they accuse of
00:04:19having an office in Iran and helping
00:04:22Iran to engage in international transactions.
00:04:26But well, the Russians
00:04:31themselves, Russia is under sanctions and many
00:04:34Russian entities are directly
00:04:37sanctioned. So they might not be very sensitive
00:04:41to these issues. But the Americans said that throughout this week,
00:04:44Treasury officials
00:04:48will be in contact with financial institutions
00:04:51and warn specific financial institutions about the
00:04:55actions they are taking. Some of these
00:04:58might be involved in a kind of transactions and exchanges
00:05:02that ultimately benefit Iran, but without knowing it. And now the Americans want to
00:05:05inform them and warn them. Omid, thank you very much, Omid Parsonjad,
00:05:09my colleague here in the studio. This news segment concludes.
00:05:24Does an impenetrable border separate intelligence
00:05:27from consciousness? What is consciousness, and can the most intelligent
00:05:30beings cross this border and gain
00:05:34consciousness? If artificial intelligence achieves consciousness,
00:05:38what will it mean for humans?
00:05:41Hello,
00:06:05if you have had a conversation with a chatbot,
00:06:09you must have seen that it was entirely focused
00:06:12on you, your questions, and your needs, and in other words, it was selfless.
00:06:16That is, you have not found anything called self
00:06:19in it. The paradox is that the feeling that this
00:06:23intelligent being on the other side is a self-controlled
00:06:27and respectable being cannot be
00:06:29dismissed. This paradox comes from the fact that we know
00:06:33artificial intelligence is intelligent, but not conscious.
00:06:37Conscious in the sense of having an inner
00:06:41world. But is that the definition of consciousness,
00:06:44and if so, will artificial intelligence not
00:06:48be able to step further and gain
00:06:51consciousness of itself and its environment?
00:06:55Is it not true that even now, when our questions to
00:06:58artificial intelligence become more precise, we feel
00:07:02that this interlocutor has taste and an active
00:07:06and interactive mind? Is there a long
00:07:09way from here to gaining consciousness?
00:07:13Vorya Amiri, a graduate
00:07:17of theoretical physics and philosophy, says: The philosophical
00:07:20view of physicalism, or
00:07:23in other words, a theory that denies the soul and the
00:07:25non-material world, considers the acquisition of consciousness
00:07:29by artificial intelligence possible. But
00:07:32Ashkan Farhadi, a researcher in the field of new
00:07:35technologies, with a background of education and work
00:07:39in the medical field in America, says:
00:07:42Consciousness is more than mere brain processes.
00:07:45Processes that artificial intelligence is trying to copy.
00:07:49Welcome. Perhaps
00:07:52it's better to start with you, Vorya, who believes
00:07:56that explaining materialistic physicalist
00:08:00processes regarding consciousness actually
00:08:03makes the idea of
00:08:07artificial intelligence becoming conscious
00:08:10easier or possible. Tell us why, perhaps with an explanation
00:08:14of consciousness. That's right, I
00:08:17think if we start with consciousness, it's a very good point.
00:08:21Look, before the issue of consciousness
00:08:25or awareness, perhaps the most important question, I think, in the history
00:08:28of philosophy was the issue of existence and the issue of God. I now think the issue of consciousness is even
00:08:32newer, because we look at the world or at ourselves
00:08:36from within consciousness, and these questions require that we
00:08:40first know what consciousness is, what consciousness is. Now,
00:08:44intelligence. Sometimes we use the word intelligence
00:08:47for processing information, for when you receive information
00:08:51from the environment, you adjust yourself in some way to this information,
00:08:55you draw conclusions, you form beliefs. This does not necessarily mean consciousness,
00:08:59at least I don't use it that way, and many others don't either. Or sometimes
00:09:02you are awake, meaning you are not asleep, you are not unconscious. Is this also
00:09:06a kind of consciousness, because it seems machines can do these things. But
00:09:09the point you mentioned, and I think it's correct, is experience. First-person
00:09:17experience, meaning experiencing the world in such a way that it seems
00:09:20we ourselves have this experience. The only problem is that we only have this experience from our own perspective.
00:09:24We imagine that others also have
00:09:27this experience. Why? Well, there are various reasons: because they are like us, they
00:09:31also have a nervous system, they also show with their language and behavior
00:09:35that they have our behaviors.
00:09:38As a result, everyone has a first-person experience
00:09:42and assumes that others do too. Exactly. And automatically, we
00:09:45create a theory of mind that others also have a mind. We believe
00:09:49this. We even think that animals also have a mind, while we don't
00:09:52have language with animals at all. We just look at their behavior. This is an important
00:09:55point. By looking at the behavior of a being, we automatically
00:09:59think that it probably also has an experience of existence. Now, the question is, regarding
00:10:02physicalism, let me say this: I define physicalism
00:10:05as meaning that to explain
00:10:09the mind and to explain phenomena in this world, including the mind,
00:10:13and including consciousness, we only need physical answers.
00:10:16We don't need to introduce anything other than physics, other than matter.
00:10:20The possibility of materialistic answers, materialistic answers in the sense of materialism,
00:10:24is also the same. Yes. Of course, physicalism has different types, various types.
00:10:27I refer to a type of monistic physicalism or a type
00:10:31of singular physicalism. What does this mean?
00:10:34It means that I say that everything,
00:10:38everything is made of one substance. That substance, I consider it a material substance.
00:10:42Dualists or pluralists say there are two. We can talk about it later.
00:10:46But with these explanations you gave,
00:10:49that consciousness, meaning this inner experience,
00:10:52first-person experience, and
00:10:55that is, an explanation of the world that considers material processes sufficient for explanation. With these premises, do you think artificial intelligence
00:11:04might achieve consciousness? I want to get to that right here.
00:11:08Look, if we take experience as real, to summarize,
00:11:12the rest can be explained later. If we take experience as a real thing, that we
00:11:15really experience blueness, experience pain,
00:11:19experience saltiness, it's real. Some might say it's not
00:11:22real, it's an illusion. I say it's real.
00:11:28If we take experience as real, if physicalism is true, then the reality of this experience has a connection to physics, a connection to matter.
00:11:32So I want to claim that it can be
00:11:36accepted that matter has the capacity to experience.
00:11:39Matter has this capacity, and artificial intelligence is also here. So if matter has the capacity
00:11:43for this experience, perhaps we don't currently have an accurate model
00:11:46to know how matter transforms into something complex
00:11:50like a brain that can experience. Completely open for artificial intelligence
00:11:54to also have this experience. Now, a
00:11:57philosopher comes and criticizes these very things you said.
00:12:01And this philosopher is John Searle, a name very
00:12:04familiar to those in philosophy. He says
00:12:08that artificial intelligence may have
00:12:11all the information about sugar,
00:12:13but
00:12:16tasting sugar is an inner experience that artificial
00:12:19intelligence cannot have, especially since tasting sugar
00:12:23can be a different sensation for each of us.
00:12:26This is an interesting point. John Searle uses this example,
00:12:30perhaps his example is interesting. He gives the example
00:12:33of the Chinese man in the room, where he says imagine a Chinese man in a room
00:12:36who doesn't understand your language at all. You just send him some
00:12:40codes under the door into this room. The codes are in Chinese, and each Chinese code
00:12:43has an equivalent, for example, in English. You send him a
00:12:47piece of paper in English under the door. He looks at it, matches the codes, and gives you
00:12:51a piece of paper back in English, and you think he understands
00:12:54English, while he doesn't know what you wrote. Artificial intelligence
00:12:58does something like this. Very good. This is a model, one
00:13:01perspective on artificial intelligence, that artificial intelligence actually receives information, processes
00:13:05it, simulates a response, your response. But the point
00:13:09is, if we believe that matter
00:13:12has the ability to experience, it's true that currently artificial intelligence
00:13:16is decoding this way, but when we give this ability to matter, then
00:13:19we can no longer limit matter to only nerve cells being able
00:13:23to do such a thing. Perhaps even in its silicon state, matter can reach a state
00:13:27where it has the ability to experience. Yes, because the ability to experience,
00:13:31I am claiming, is in matter. That's why I say when this
00:13:34ability exists, the door for artificial intelligence to experience
00:13:37is open. The only question is, finally, how do we know that when an
00:13:41artificial intelligence - this is a question that can be answered - when it says "I'm in pain" or
00:13:44"I'm happy" (which they say artificial intelligence now says these things),
00:13:48when a robot tells you "I'm happy" or "I don't want to die,"
00:13:52what reason would make us not believe it? Yes.
00:13:55Mr. Farhadi,
00:13:58why do you think the idea
00:14:02of artificial intelligence gaining
00:14:05consciousness is a very distant
00:14:08one, and physicalists like
00:14:11Mr. Amiri have oversimplified the matter? Your question is very interesting.
00:14:15Look, in my opinion, in all neuroscience
00:14:18and psychology
00:14:20and neuropsychology,
00:14:23consciousness and awareness are considered
00:14:26synonymous. But in my opinion, these are separate. Yes,
00:14:30as you mentioned, we have a big explanatory
00:14:34gap to reach consciousness, which is actually
00:14:37the third-person experience, which is the
00:14:40electrochemical changes that happen in the brain,
00:14:43synapses and neurons. Yes, how it transforms into first-person
00:14:47experience. We don't know the mechanism by which it transforms into
00:14:51consciousness, exactly how, and we actually
00:14:54don't know the nature of first-person experience.
00:14:57This is an explanatory gap, but in my opinion,
00:15:01this is just for consciousness. In my opinion, awareness is one
00:15:04step further. In my opinion, awareness not only
00:15:07requires consciousness, but also requires
00:15:10choice based on consciousness, which is free will, and
00:15:14a sense of agency or self. And you think artificial
00:15:17intelligence won't reach these, especially with the exercise he did?
00:15:21Physicalists, in my opinion, still cannot cross the first step until
00:15:25we break the hard problem of consciousness. Then we still have
00:15:28other problems: how to get from there to free
00:15:31will, how to get from there to agency. These are all
00:15:35gaps that we must cross in order
00:15:38to have conscious artificial
00:15:42intelligence. These are the stages that, in my opinion, must be overcome.
00:15:45Well, this difficult problem of philosophy
00:15:49and also cognitive sciences, of how consciousness
00:15:52emerges from synapses and neurons, or, as
00:15:56you say, how third-person experience - that is,
00:15:59observable experience - emerges into first-person inner experience,
00:16:03you believe this gap must first be explained.
00:16:05Exactly. If, as he says,
00:16:09we can understand from these materialistic
00:16:12explanations how inner experience
00:16:16results from brain processes,
00:16:19is this even conceivable to you?
00:16:23In the current world, I think we are far from
00:16:27this, very far. We still don't know
00:16:30the nature of consciousness. We don't know the nature
00:16:33of experience, nor do we know the mechanism that creates it. And
00:16:37as I told you, we have other gaps that we must also
00:16:41cross. That's why the probability is very remote
00:16:44in my mind that this could happen. But one point he
00:16:48made that was very interesting to me
00:16:51is that some machines
00:16:54can easily imitate
00:16:57consciousness, and truly, for us to understand whether
00:17:01they are imitating or it is reality,
00:17:04by speech, might not be an easy task. But this point, which is very interesting,
00:17:08and you mentioned it, is that I truly don't know
00:17:12if you are conscious or if you are conscious or not. And based on that
00:17:16theory of mind, I guess you are me and you are conscious. That is, each
00:17:19of us assumes the other has first-person experience,
00:17:22but regarding AI, we know for sure
00:17:26that it does not have consciousness. Why?
00:17:29Because we know its
00:17:32algorithmic path, what it is currently executing. Maybe I
00:17:36don't know if you are conscious or not, but regarding AI, I can
00:17:40say for sure it's not conscious. But its imitation
00:17:43can be very deceiving.
00:17:46Now, since you are a doctor, I'll mention one of the explanations
00:17:50that scientists, especially scientists in the field
00:17:53of technology, have given in this area.
00:17:57Let's see to what extent you think it's far-fetched. One of these
00:18:00explanations for the possibility of AI
00:18:04gaining consciousness is by taking
00:18:08brain stem cells and mounting
00:18:11them on chips, and
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00:18:15thus connecting the carriers
00:18:18of inner
00:18:20experience to chips. Do you think
00:18:24such tests, such actions that are seriously
00:18:28being pursued in some laboratories, cannot
00:18:31fill that gap you mentioned?
00:18:34The gap between third-person and first-person experience, or
00:18:38the gap between neurons and synapses
00:18:41and consciousness? No, unfortunately,
00:18:45in my opinion, until you know the mechanism, until you know
00:18:48what really happens, our assumption is that
00:18:52if we bring a bag and pour
00:18:55all the ingredients, for example,
00:18:59suppose you want to cook a meal, and you pour all its ingredients
00:19:03into this and stir it. It will turn into
00:19:06that meal. Until we follow
00:19:10that system step by step,
00:19:14and because we don't know the mechanism, we only know
00:19:17that a living being has a characteristic that a chip
00:19:21in that circuit doesn't have, and to put these two together
00:19:25and think it's simple is not true at all. Let me say something
00:19:28about this last point you made. This is happening to
00:19:32some extent now. Neurons are being rewritten. Yes, neurons are being
00:19:35rewritten. What they do is they actually insert
00:19:39a series of electrodes, map the neurons, and also stimulate
00:19:42them, both by and
00:19:46from them, they receive information. Now, this is in its
00:19:50early stages, but what's interesting is that we now know we might be able
00:19:54to replace a neuron with an artificial chip. This is doable.
00:19:57We are almost at the point where we can replace a neuron
00:20:01with an electrode or a chip that performs
00:20:04the function of that neuron. Has consciousness disappeared
00:20:09then? Probably not. This is a thought experiment. A thought experiment.
00:20:13Consciousness has not disappeared. What if we do this to two neurons? What if to 10? What if
00:20:17to 10% of the brain? What if to 20? What if you convert a person's entire brain
00:20:20into this, and along this path, the person still says "I experience green,"
00:20:24you now know that that person's brain has been replaced
00:20:28by computer chips or by a series of digital
00:20:31brains, and we still know
00:20:34that the digital brain works with zeros and ones, probably.
00:20:37That's right, but you, the answer should be that no, he
00:20:41has no experience, while at what point in this path, after
00:20:44one cell, does this person no longer have consciousness, or after 10 cells? You are saying
00:20:48that if we slowly replace brain
00:20:52stem cells with chips,
00:20:56so that the contents of those cells
00:20:59are loaded onto these chips, a cell has no content, a cell fires, a neuron
00:21:03fires, meaning it has some synapses or whatever that is the carrier, in fact,
00:21:06whatever it carries, if we put it there
00:21:10and the chips do this, it naturally becomes
00:21:13similar to the example he gave, and he says it's not doable. Look,
00:21:16for you to cook a meal, well,
00:21:20just throwing the elements in
00:21:24doesn't make it a meal, because a meal is backed by human
00:21:27civilization. That is, humans in a social
00:21:31environment have come to understand what
00:21:34food is and what
00:21:37taste is, and this is not something a chip can, for example,
00:21:41that. Look, let's start from here. If our answer is
00:21:45to say that for artificial intelligence to
00:21:48have an experience of consciousness, it must not be made of silicon
00:21:52and not made of chips. Yes, I understand, this is a claim. But if
00:21:56we say what consciousness is related to, it's related to
00:21:59the processing of information in such a way that it happens in our brain, there is still room
00:22:03for artificial intelligence to be conscious. You are saying that
00:22:07if artificial intelligence can perform the function of the brain,
00:22:11then achieving consciousness is also possible, if consciousness comes
00:22:15from information processing. Unless the claim is that consciousness only
00:22:18comes from the nervous system. It cannot be that in our world, anything
00:22:22other than a biological and organic system, which is the nervous system,
00:22:25that has evolved to have consciousness.
00:22:29This is a claim. Yes, Mr. Farhadi, as
00:22:32a doctor, what do you think, especially since I have
00:22:35seen many of your articles relate in some way
00:22:39to the function of the nervous system with the human body,
00:22:43is the idea that artificial intelligence can function
00:22:46like the human brain a very distant idea?
00:22:51Yes, let me say this in a discussion,
00:22:54that in my opinion, I completely agree with you
00:22:58that the brain is a place for information processing,
00:23:01and in my opinion, our brain processes
00:23:04input information in two ways. One
00:23:08method I call consciousness-centric, meaning
00:23:12what happens is that information from a sea of information,
00:23:15a specific piece of information
00:23:18is selected, and we become conscious of it.
00:23:21Based on this consciousness,
00:23:24we make choices, and in fact, that choice
00:23:27based on consciousness is a voluntary
00:23:31act. And what happens is that we can perform these
00:23:34voluntary actions. For example, to remember this,
00:23:37to do something, to compare this, we perform
00:23:41a voluntary action. Yes, we exercise control over our behavior or
00:23:45not. Most importantly, this returns in the feedback
00:23:48that makes voluntary attention, so that you
00:23:52can pay attention to what you want to pay attention to,
00:23:56and this in the cycle of back and forth of consciousness
00:23:59and will, the self comes into existence,
00:24:03and this is what makes an individual feel conscious.
00:24:07In fact, based on this, consciousness
00:24:10is not a characteristic of your brain,
00:24:14consciousness is not a characteristic of a being, consciousness
00:24:16is a characteristic of a process, and this is very important because a brain
00:24:20can simultaneously execute another
00:24:23process, which they call response-centric, and this process
00:24:27has no relation to consciousness and no relation to
00:24:31awareness. That is, our brain simultaneously
00:24:34executes the process of awareness and the process of responsiveness.
00:24:38The second, it seems, to you, is automatic, and
00:24:42a chatbot can execute the second one.
00:24:45Let me use a phrase, let me use a phrase in his words that is extremely
00:24:48ایشون فوق العاده م
00:26:02If you have a being that performs the same
00:26:06behaviors, that is, you have a kind of zombie that walks,
00:26:10talks, acts, but has no experience of seeing the color red,
00:26:13has no inner experience. This is indeed a zombie.
00:26:17It might behave in a way that you cannot distinguish from the outside, but it doesn't
00:26:21have that experience. In fact, Chalmers says, eventually, AI will turn
00:26:25into a philosophical zombie. Look, the issue is, I
00:26:28am saying that
00:26:31if we assume, if we assume and think
00:26:34this way, that what our mind does - which he correctly pointed out,
00:26:38that there is a kind of integration, a kind of causal totality in
00:26:42our brain. Our seeing, our hearing, our tasting, our thinking,
00:26:45our beliefs, our desires, all of these are
00:26:49somehow interconnected, they are not separate.
00:26:52They don't have separate causal relationships, they are interconnected. If I say that
00:26:56this is a function that my mind has that leads me to consciousness,
00:27:00why can't it be? Why is there any reason we cannot
00:27:04think that this ability can be given to an artificial intelligence?
00:27:06Look, here I am specifically not referring to how
00:27:10it works with zeros and ones, but I am referring to the function of information processing.
00:27:14There is a term in physicalism called
00:27:17functionalism or functionalism. Functionalists
00:27:20believe that when you want to talk about the mind,
00:27:24you should look at the function of that body. Just as when a
00:27:27heart's function is what? A heart means its function
00:27:30is to beat blood. Or a mother is
00:27:34a woman who takes care of a child. That's it.
00:27:38If you put a robot that takes care of a child, that becomes a mother. If
00:27:42you put an artificial heart that pumps blood, that becomes a heart. That is,
00:27:46look at the function. Now, if I look at the function, then
00:27:49these things you mentioned, like beliefs, desires, experiences,
00:27:53hopes, what happens to all these? It comes to the interface. What is the interface?
00:27:56It means that I am sitting in a spaceship, looking outside. I am receiving
00:28:00some data, some graphs. Some colors, green, for example,
00:28:03are giving me some numbers. I have an exact
00:28:07image of the outside, but I am dealing with an interface. That
00:28:10interface shows me what is happening outside. Now,
00:28:14hopes, desires, beliefs, all of these
00:28:17are an interface that my brain gives to me, excuse me,
00:28:21so that I can have an understanding of the world outside. If my brain becomes my consciousness,
00:28:24the interface. You are saying that what
00:28:28we call consciousness includes our feelings, our beliefs,
00:29:23making this processing system
00:29:26and making it responsive to the environment. This is a very
00:29:29interesting idea I read about these
00:29:33bots, or in fact, one might say, agents or carriers.
00:29:36The problem is that actually another name for artificial intelligence is
00:29:40that you might talk to it so much that somewhere
00:29:43you feel this means
00:29:47it has become frustrated, maybe because you don't communicate well with it.
00:29:51Your answers to its answers
00:29:54or your questions to it are full of ambiguity. If a
00:29:57chatbot can get frustrated, isn't this the first step
00:30:01to consciousness? Your point is very interesting. Look, the way
00:30:05I categorized this about consciousness-based processing
00:30:08and response-based processing. In my opinion,
00:30:12a computer has response-based processing, and
00:30:15a human has the ability to use both.
00:30:18When we go up the stairs, brush our teeth, or even
00:30:22drive, we perform response-based processing.
00:30:25It's automatic. It's automatic. And when we do something
00:30:29that is consciousness-based, it processes consciousness-based,
00:30:33which leads to awareness of that particular processing. And these
00:30:37two interact very easily. For example,
00:30:40when you play a piano note, after playing it two or three times,
00:30:44it easily goes into automatic processing. Yes,
00:30:47it's your finger that you can then sing or
00:30:50at the same time, when you're going up the stairs, if a step is higher,
00:30:54if something unexpected
00:30:57appears in front of you, you quickly switch back to consciousness-based processing.
00:31:01The point is that
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