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00:00:00"I want to tie my future life to the nuclear industry and perhaps
00:00:03even work at a nuclear power plant. Therefore, I believe this
00:00:07will be an excellent experience. The
00:00:09expedition will last 10 days, the participant will visit the
00:00:13Arctic and reach the geographic North Pole. Each educational
00:00:17program awaits them on board of the icebreaker: lectures,
00:00:20workshops, and scientific
00:00:22experiments.
00:00:26Servicemen from the Special Operations Forces Unit of Belarus are
00:00:30participating in the joint special tactical training summit "Brotherhood
00:00:332026" in Kazakhstan. They are practicing training and joint
00:00:36reconnaissance, as well as searching for and destroying illegal armed groups in
00:00:40mountainous desert terrain at the Kokshetau training ground. The training
00:00:44ground is familiar to Belarusian servicemen. In 2022, the
00:00:48"Orlok 2022" exercise was held there, where the same tasks
00:00:52were practiced with artillery and army aviation
00:00:54support.
00:00:57Belarusian vehicles were present at the largest car festival for
00:01:01Virginia in Moscow. This large-scale event brought together
00:01:05leading representatives of the automotive industry at the
00:01:08Exhibition of National Economy Achievements and became a
00:01:12platform for showcasing modern equipment. As part of the
00:01:15festival, the domestic universal loader Amkador
00:01:19332C4 was presented. This model has
00:01:22already proven itself in operation thanks to its
00:01:26reliability, high performance, and versatility. Another part
00:01:29of the pavilion's exhibition was the photo
00:01:32project "Automotive
00:01:34Belarus".
00:01:43A gem of Belarusian naive art, Malyavanka, from the collection
00:01:46of the Vitebsk Region Folk Art Center, is on display for the
00:01:50first time at the Tsaritsyno Museum Reserve in Moscow. Today,
00:01:54this unique technique is a part of Belarus's historical heritage. The
00:01:57prime of Malyavanka in Belarus was in the early
00:02:08This work is one of the oldest in the collection. It's not exactly
00:02:11known when, but it was probably painted in the late
00:02:141930s, and it captures dreams of a happy life.
00:02:18The castle here looks as if it was made of sugar, round
00:02:22turrets, and a cover of flowers spreads out before it,
00:02:25pond, swans, fragrant nature - everything is
00:02:28beautiful in this life. Today, Malyavanka is more than just
00:02:32decoration, it represents the soul of the Belarusian people,
00:02:36through symbols, myths, and vivid images. They help us maintain
00:02:39connection to our roots, our national identity. This is our
00:02:43heritage, which must be
00:02:44preserved.
00:02:47The State Academic Choir Chapel named after Shirma returned from
00:02:51the Tyrolian Festival. It took place in Erl, Austria. The
00:02:55country's largest musical event brings together star performers
00:02:59from all over the world. The Choir Chapel, named after Shirma, is a
00:03:02regular participant of the festival and its official base
00:03:06square in Erl. Performers from other countries
00:03:08joined the Belarusians, and together they formed the Tyroland
00:03:12Choir. This year, they combined ensemble gave a solo concert
00:03:16in the Catholic Church. World masterpieces, as well as Russian
00:03:19and Belarusian music, sounded under the walls of the
00:03:23church.
00:07:06the first region, first in everything, how many smart
00:07:09gadgets do you need to say that a city has become smart? I
00:07:12live in my district, this is my home, here is my shop, some sort of
00:07:16resort vibe, I already imagine myself, honestly, this
00:07:20is not Kobrin, this is not Pinsk, this is Mikashevichi, it's expensive, in
00:07:24our district they don't ring, but they do ring, paraphrasing the classics, a
00:07:28culture of construction appears, something very architectural sounded,
00:07:31the budget is not endless, so what was it? Just a lot
00:07:34of material
00:07:35accumulated.
00:07:55Hello, Palette is on air, a program about people whose ideas are born before
00:07:59our eyes to become part of the creative economy. Today in
00:08:02our studio is Nikolai Vlasyuk, an expert in urban planning,
00:08:06who knows how to turn a city into a brand. Nikolay Nikolaevich,
00:08:10we are glad to see you. Good day. Nikolay
00:08:13Vlasyuk, chief architect of the Brest region, professor
00:08:16of Brest State Technical University. The first in Belarus to
00:08:20develop a turnkey urban spatial development concept. According to his
00:08:24ideas, by 2050 Brest will be transformed into a garden city at the junction
00:08:27of nature and technology. His experience is applied in other countries. An adherent
00:08:31of the theory in practice that space forms a person.
00:08:35Believes that every populated area of Belarus needs
00:08:38its own unique identity.
00:08:42It's no coincidence that the color scheme of our studio today is green, because we will
00:08:46talk a lot about how to harmoniously connect
00:08:49nature, technology. I really hope that you, as
00:08:52an expert in urban planning and
00:08:55an expert in the smart approach as well, will reveal this
00:08:59topic, but I suggest we start with such an important block, which is
00:09:02called "the path". You, as an architect, will understand, it's the
00:09:05foundation. Mhm. Let's move on to this
00:09:08block right now.
00:09:11Nikolay Nikolaevich, today your knowledge, your experience, your ideas
00:09:14are being implemented not only in Belarus, but in Russia and Kazakhstan.
00:09:18A unique destiny from the point of view that, in general, even the paths
00:09:21in architecture could have been different for you, I mean even
00:09:24geographically. You became the youngest architect of the city
00:09:28of Minsk at one time, yes, you had the opportunity, in general, to stay in
00:09:31Minsk, but you chose Brest, and that is, you returned
00:09:35to your native Brest, we remember that you are a Brest native in the third
00:09:38generation already. So, what was it, because everyone always...
00:10:13but after working in the city, I realized
00:10:17that in a small city or in a regional
00:10:20center, in my native city, to implement my
00:10:24ideas on... approaches it would not be easier,
00:10:27because a link is very important, the mayor of the city and the chief
00:10:31architect, and therefore, when
00:10:34a proposal came from the mayor of Brest to come to
00:10:38Brest in a single team to work
00:10:41on the fact that the city is preparing for its millennium, in general, there was
00:10:44such a carte blanche to try to implement
00:10:48those ideas that exist,
00:10:51using Brest as an example, I took advantage of this opportunity and...
00:10:55returned to my hometown. If you even look at the
00:10:58approaches today, well, in the same Europe, not all
00:11:02Germans strive to move to Berlin to live, yes, there are
00:11:05many cities, like Dresden, like Leipzig, and so on
00:11:09and so forth, which have their own peculiarities, their own
00:11:13unique feature, be it in Dresden, the Dresden
00:11:16Gallery, or Oktoberfest. And what is
00:11:20our problem today? It's that Minsk, like a magnet, pulls all
00:11:24the resources from... the republic. Small
00:11:27towns, villages become empty, the number of
00:11:30residents decreases, regional centers collect them, and from regional centers everyone goes to
00:11:34the capital. But you have a solution.
00:11:37There was a topic that Minsk is not endless, this is
00:11:41true, even the head of state said that it's enough to inflate
00:11:45Minsk, so the topic of the Minsk agglomeration
00:11:48of satellite cities appeared, so today we are actively talking about
00:11:51the need to develop identity and branding.
00:12:55500 cities already operate using the
00:12:58Smart Approach system, and moreover, it formed the basis of
00:13:01China's state program. Well, at our level,
00:13:05something could probably be done too. We also, of course, have
00:13:08the topic of smart cities, a state program for the development
00:13:12of smart cities. A lot has been done at different
00:13:15levels, but I sometimes joke, saying, "Which city is smarter?"
00:13:19Let's compare, for example, Kobrin or Pinsk,
00:13:22then Minsk or Grodno. How do we
00:13:25compare, compare which city is smarter, where there are more smart technologies,
00:13:28smart services, how many smart gadgets are needed, right,
00:13:32to say that a city has become smart, or are there other criteria? And
00:13:36that's exactly the idea of a smart city is not to
00:13:39cram the city with these gadgets. These gadgets will already
00:13:43be watching you, but to have feedback from
00:13:47the city residents. Smart technologies are not
00:13:49equal to a smart city. Feedback is rather, I think, a more
00:13:53important component here, because it seems to me that in any
00:13:57city, the most important capital is human capital. That is, all cities
00:14:00are fighting for people. In Brest, before we started working on
00:14:04the city's master plan, before the city's millennium,
00:14:07we decided to take a slightly different path. Before
00:14:10the start of the design, we hung two maps in
00:14:14the city's info center: in green, the places that need
00:14:18to be preserved, and in red, the places that need
00:14:21to be corrected. And this, in general, was a marker
00:14:24for the city, for the city administration, to
00:14:28see what priorities needed to be set,
00:14:31to build urban planning policy. Local residents started saying
00:14:34that they want more bike paths, we want it to be a
00:14:37green city, we want to have more parks, we want
00:14:41a concert hall, we want... that is, this
00:14:44demand from residents, this entire strategy formed the
00:14:48basis of the city's master plan, and the city's master plan solidified it with its
00:14:51regulations, which already have legal status,
00:14:55and it was approved by the head of state and is mandatory
00:14:58for execution.
00:15:02Our next block, the author, begins in the most correct way, because the author
00:15:06is sitting opposite me, actually Nikolay Nikolaevich Vlastyuk, the author of this
00:15:09scientific work, and I'm not afraid of the word, quite weighty, and
00:15:13this is the strategy of Brest, a garden city. Why
00:15:16exactly Brest? Why did it have indications to become
00:15:20a garden city? This is probably the only, or a very
00:15:24rare city in Belarus, which was moved to
00:15:27a new location. During the construction of the fortress, the thousand-year-old city in
00:15:31the mid-19th century was moved 1.5 km
00:15:34to the east and was formed by the military.
00:15:52an ideal city, which in England was developed
00:15:56at the end of the 19th century, that is, 50 years later
00:15:59than Brest, the same center, park, today it is a fortress
00:16:03and radial block development with a
00:16:06comfortable scale.
00:17:07we worked for 5 years on these schemes for separated
00:17:11territories for all district centers. If I'm not mistaken, there's even
00:17:14a global standard, it's clear that not all countries can
00:17:17afford it, but I think Belarus is among them, when, you know, a person
00:17:21has 10 minutes to the park. There's the concept of a
00:17:24fifteen-minute walking city or a
00:17:27ten-minute one, and we are also striving for this.
00:17:31We basically have all the prerequisites. The Soviet
00:17:34school, despite the criticism, but
00:17:38the system of services itself was built
00:17:41quite competently, and the radii of accessibility were, well, correctly
00:17:45selected for walking distance: schools, kindergartens,
00:17:48clinics, shops. Today, we just
00:17:51need to, well, just give gloss, comfort,
00:17:54quality to this environment that we inherited. Well,
00:17:58everything new that is built should be formed in a new
00:18:01quality. How did you feel that Brest could
00:18:04be made into a brand? Well, you know, there are always
00:18:07prerequisites. Returning to Brest, you
00:18:10feel a comfortable environment,
00:18:13large-scale development of the historical center, there is
00:18:16a river, a lot of greenery, boulevards.
00:18:20You come to Sochi or Odessa, right, there's some kind of
00:18:23resort vibe, and we
00:18:26analyzed this concept of a southern capital, that
00:18:30Brest is in the same climatic zone as Prague, as
00:18:33that is, almost Southern Europe.
00:18:37And if you look at the vegetation, ours is very,
00:18:41well, the vegetation is quite sparse, we have very little
00:18:44vertical landscaping, the same ivy, wisteria,
00:18:48then, Virginia creeper, a lot
00:18:51of plants that could be a symbol of the city. For example, the chestnut for
00:18:55Brest, there's a medal, so, a thousand years of Brest,
00:18:58the symbol, the logo, so, it's a chestnut leaf. Uh-huh.
00:19:02For example, the embankment could be decorated, and we have already started
00:19:06decorating it with Crimean pines, these are
00:19:09pines with long needles, or, for example,
00:19:12we planted a magnolia alley, where else in Belarus is there
00:19:16a magnolia alley or a plane tree alley? Plane trees are generally,
00:19:20it seems, somewhere in Italy, but they grow here, with
00:19:23their shaggy cones, so, with bare
00:19:26bark, a whole alley. In the city, there are
00:19:30forty-year-old trees, so you can form
00:19:34this brand with these exotic
00:19:38plants. the brand, following the city,
00:19:42the economy naturally catches up. A city cannot exist without an economy,
00:19:45architects also learn this, but
00:19:48if we discuss, you as the author of both the concept and the strategy, and generally
00:19:52a person who in one way or another deals with business
00:19:56and investors, for example, you as an architect, you must think
00:20:00like a businessman, to understand what will be
00:20:03profitable, what will not be so much, and so on, when you design
00:20:06at this stage? I would not emphasize
00:20:09my own personality, it's still a team
00:20:12effort. The more we know about the city, the more we can
00:20:16predict and predict correctly. And if we
00:20:18see some promising investment sites that
00:20:22will be interesting for a developer, of course, the more correctly we
00:20:26formulate the design brief or the urban planning
00:20:30passport, the more accurately we will hit
00:20:34the topic of the auction or the topic of the developer, for example.
00:20:37the formation of the new silhouette of the city along
00:20:41the Warsaw highway, when we had the entrance
00:20:44from the bridge, Shevchenko Boulevard, formed in the Soviet period,
00:20:48these gates, two buildings on both sides, which
00:20:51greet, so, the residents, we made, as
00:20:54it were, a curtsy, we did it from the other side, from
00:20:58the southern part, also such gates in the form
00:21:01of a business center, in the form
00:21:04of a modern hotel. Gradually, such a development is being
00:21:07built, which, well, says that
00:21:11the city today has a modern appearance, in fact, this
00:21:14new modern avenue, in addition to the embankment, we realized that there are already very
00:21:18serious shifts in this. A city garden appeared. Also, by the way, a very
00:21:22remarkable place, it seems to me, for the citizens and guests of Brest. And
00:21:25what else is already in the process of implementation? You know, in every
00:21:29direction there have been some shifts. If we talk about the
00:21:32historical center, then, uh,
00:21:36between the fortress and the city there was an esplanade area,
00:21:39this is an area that was not built up. In the
00:21:42Soviet period, it formed an industrial
00:21:44zone. There was a river port,
00:21:48there was a power plant, there was transshipment, there were some
00:21:51warehouse areas, and so, today there is an active transformation
00:21:55of this territory into a public space. The topic of renovation is also
00:21:59actively sounded here. In our former industrial
00:22:02territory, today a promenade is appearing, a
00:22:06museum of steam locomotives is appearing, public buildings are currently being designed. We
00:22:10want to connect the city center
00:22:13and the park area with the fortress within walking distance,
00:22:16so that it is a kind of unified network.
00:22:50and the same Paris, maybe it's possible to design skyscrapers in La Défense,
00:22:53in the historic center it's not possible,
00:22:56at the same time, Le Corbusier proposed
00:23:00the redevelopment of Paris back in the 1920s, essentially
00:23:03to make the center of Paris a large microdistrict. All
00:23:07these principles, by the way, laid down by Le Corbusier,
00:23:10the principles of modernism, which were later adopted by
00:23:14the Soviet school, these residential
00:23:17areas, "house-machine for living," "city-machine
00:23:20for living," they were actively then
00:23:23introduced in cities, in Soviet
00:23:27cities. But I think
00:23:30the time has come when we should still turn to
00:23:33people.
00:23:37I would really like to focus on the fact that you really have such
00:23:40a human-centered approach, in general, a lot of vitality in the projects that
00:23:44you develop. It's clear that this
00:23:47slogan, "everything for people," yes. It can be rethought
00:23:50a little differently. If we talk about microdistricts,
00:23:54even those sleeping areas, people
00:23:58would like to say that in our district they don't ring, but
00:24:01they do ring, paraphrasing the classics and so on, but nevertheless there is a demand
00:24:05for such a well-thought-out ecosystem, that I live in my
00:24:08district, here is my house, here is my shop, here I have
00:24:12a playground, parking, and other things. Maybe we can analyze
00:24:15specific examples, but if
00:24:18we talk initially, the Soviet period - this is
00:24:21modernism, this is rigid functional zoning,
00:24:25home, work, home, two places,
00:24:28so, a third appears, now we are talking about, yes,
00:24:32about the approach, a humane approach, when a
00:24:35third place appears, a public space, when there is home, work, and there is
00:24:39a third place where we can relax, or meet,
00:24:43or after work, so, play sports. Therefore, today's
00:24:46trends are not rigid functional zoning, but it is...
00:25:20that is, bring me to a house where there is a sharp
00:25:23fortress drawn, or for example butterflies are drawn, or some
00:25:27mural, right, and or we, for example, have
00:25:30a shop on the swamp, next to this shop we made a house with
00:25:33reeds, that is, this theme of the swamp went on, or for example,
00:25:39the partnership called itself "Reeds", they
00:25:42called themselves the partnership of owners. There is an interesting example of
00:25:46renovation of a Soviet residential area where we...
00:25:50developed a water channel system, created
00:25:53a reservoir, moved it back due to the private sector and
00:25:56created such a recreation area in the old residential
00:26:00area, built a new quarter with...
00:26:32advantages, but there's simply not enough variability,
00:26:36of puzzles that can be assembled in various
00:26:39interpretations to create this environment, different in height,
00:26:43different in architecture, to create this environment like building with blocks, in addition
00:26:47to identity and navigation. The topic of a barrier-free environment, yes, is very
00:26:50important. By the way, we are still revolving around the topic of
00:26:54Soviet heritage, it turns out that all these
00:26:57elevated entrances, when you know, they are on a hill, and you still need to go up
00:27:01steps.
00:27:05and they couldn't deal with this issue for a long time, and well, they started with what? They started
00:27:09building ramps. We had complaints, so, from residents,
00:27:12that children gather on the first-floor ramp watching
00:27:16TV, so, in the kitchen, on the first
00:27:18floor.
00:27:21Resourceful people, yes, it was just necessary to rework the sections, to make, so,
00:27:25an additional opportunity for the elevator to go down another
00:27:28half-floor to zero with, so, the
00:27:31entrance. We solved the problem of this inviting half-floor
00:27:35staircase, which completely, today the elevator completely solves
00:27:39the problem of barrier-free access in multi-apartment
00:27:42buildings. Uh-huh, you indirectly touched upon the topic, let's still
00:27:45go through it, because now we will talk about bike paths, it is also an already proven
00:27:49fact of efficiency and economy, among other things, when you build fewer
00:27:53parking lots, it turns out that there are fewer cars. You also, in general,
00:27:57plan to put everyone on bicycles, as I understand it, yes, there is
00:28:00such an idea. You know, but...
00:28:03here too, one cannot take exact
00:28:06copies or carbon copies from examples, I don't know, European
00:28:10or Asian. My approach is that we need to
00:28:14create more bypasses, transport routes around
00:28:17the city, transport corridors, where you can quickly get from
00:28:21one area to another with noise barriers, high-speed
00:28:24highways. And the city center, of course, should prioritize
00:28:28pedestrians, cyclists, but the idea is to get
00:28:31from one area to another. It's good to have
00:28:35a green area, a green corridor, a boulevard, a
00:28:38bike path, along the embankment, ideally, without crossing
00:28:41transport communications. You left your, so, yard and
00:28:44arrived at work through the park. Well, that's a great story, actually, and with picturesque
00:28:48views. And I believe it is very important here, perhaps, to
00:28:52correct some programs that we have today in the Ministry
00:28:55of Architecture and Construction, when we measure our
00:28:59growth only by quantitative indicators.
00:30:06and an assessment can be made for city authorities not only in terms
00:30:10of the implementation of these square meters, but how much better your city
00:30:14has become. After all, if a city gets bigger, it doesn't
00:30:17mean it gets
00:30:18better.
00:30:21We are smoothly transitioning to the block called "Ideas",
00:30:25and here, of course, I cannot help but start this
00:30:29block with your quote, that cities are, in general, like
00:30:33people, right, they are all different, and each should have its own unique charm, and
00:30:36we are finally approaching your very responsible mission, which now
00:30:40occupies all your not only working, but also free time,
00:30:44including, this is the development of small cities. So let's
00:30:46discuss, using the example of Mikashevichi, let's approach it in an unconventional
00:30:50way. What is Mikashevichi's unique charm? The year before last,
00:30:54we held the harvest festival in the city,
00:30:57and what is special about
00:31:00Mikashevichi? It's a mono-city. The city has a specialized
00:31:04enterprise, it's granite, which is
00:31:06mined here - in a city next to the city, there is a large
00:31:10quarry, imagine, a pit the size of a city,
00:31:13where there is a waterfall.
00:31:45on the end walls of the buildings, this industrial industry of this
00:31:48city, it well, it
00:31:52designates it as a unique city, and this is not
00:31:56Kobrin, this is not Pinsk, this is Mikashevichi, they
00:31:59are recognizable, no matter where you take a picture,
00:32:02so,
00:32:04the residents and the administration also didn't understand at first, they were tired of these
00:32:08stones, but when we did it, the theme
00:32:11was liked, we made a park, we made these end walls.
00:32:15We landscaped the street, we even made an observation deck at the quarry itself, a new modern
00:32:18deck in the form of a pavilion,
00:32:22we even wanted to make one over the quarry, so
00:32:25with a panoramic view, but we moved back a little for
00:32:28safety reasons, but nevertheless, we
00:32:31designated our identity in the city, and
00:32:34today we are talking about branding the region in the first region,
00:32:38we have such a creative team, the
00:32:42governor's assistant is really promoting this theme. And
00:32:45the Bison Museum, this #first region, it
00:32:49is officially registered, the first region, first in everything,
00:32:52and such an idea, like a matryoshka doll, to build this
00:32:55hierarchy of branding from the regional
00:32:58center to cities of intra-regional subordination,
00:33:01district centers and towns, so that
00:33:04every city would think about what makes it special, so, if we
00:33:08are talking about Pinsk - it is a historical
00:33:11building, a unique environment, a pedestrian street and Pinsk in general.
00:33:15The capital of Polesie, so, Pinchuki with their own
00:33:17mentality, with their own character, yes, and if we talk today
00:33:21about Pripyat, about Polesie, yes, then it is also
00:33:24an absolutely undeveloped theme, if
00:33:28if we know about Belovezhskaya Pushcha and many know, they come,
00:33:32there is a fortress, Belovezhskaya Pushcha, then
00:33:35Polesie is that potential that has not yet
00:33:38been fully revealed, somewhere they heard about Herodotus's sea, so
00:33:42a lot of festivals are appearing now, right now...
00:33:45A bridge is being built between Luninets and Stolin, and today
00:33:49we are also discussing how the territory where there used to be
00:33:53a ferry, a ferry crossing over Pripyat, how that can be a point
00:33:56of attraction, where the administration of the reserve, where there can
00:34:00be eco-trails, where there can be agro-estates, such a, well,
00:34:03also a unique place, which will be interesting for tourists,
00:34:07well, and you really went further, this is not, we are not just discussing
00:34:10it here with you, and for our TV viewers, I explain, you have really just given
00:34:13an order to develop.
00:34:45approve, that is, a single concept for the city,
00:34:48the central part of the city, how advertising will be placed, what
00:34:52will be on the signs, what will be on, well, on the shop windows,
00:34:55maybe some small architectural forms, and the small architectural
00:34:59forms of Pinsk will differ from the small architectural
00:35:02forms of Kobrin or Kamenets, yes, in
00:35:05general, that's how it should be, they should differ, we should move away from
00:35:09this, from this theme of the irony of fate or with light
00:35:13steam. This is
00:35:22pain, when our cities with excellent,
00:35:26with interesting historical heritage, and residential areas, sleeping
00:35:29areas, do not differ from each other, there
00:35:32Gantsevichi, from I don't know, from Zhodino or from
00:35:36there, yes, and we don't understand where we
00:35:39are, so to revive the particularity of the
00:35:42small town, its identity. That's the
00:35:46point, and what else is interesting about this is that
00:35:50it should attract people, that is,
00:35:53creative economy, and your broadcast, it also
00:35:56talks about this, that today I observe even in Brest, when Russians
00:36:00come, they say: it's great, we
00:36:03are ready to live here, rent housing, it's inexpensive here,
00:36:06it's comfortable here, the internet allows you to work, there are good
00:36:10people here, all conditions are here, and we, well, these are human
00:36:14resources.
00:36:27development and a driver of economic development,
00:36:30undervalued,
00:36:34Well, what, in your opinion, hinders making it fully developed?
00:36:38We talked about Pinsk, also an interesting story, right? I believe that
00:36:41at the level of, perhaps, state
00:36:44policy, more attention should be paid to urban planning,
00:36:47urbanism. And I will even
00:36:50give an example of the urban forum that took place in Baku, where
00:36:54188 countries participated. The guests who
00:37:05were there spoke about modern trends,
00:37:19about what a sustainable city is, what green
00:37:22urban planning is,
00:37:25well, and how to integrate this into...
00:38:27settings, fine mechanisms,
00:38:30and for example, today during public discussion, we still
00:38:33have a misunderstanding, when residents come, they are shown
00:38:37a general plan or a detailed plan, they don't understand what is
00:38:40drawn there, there are some zones colored in, they ask what is
00:38:43this, will my house be preserved or will it be dismantled, they
00:38:47are told, your house will be dismantled, but not now, maybe later, a street will
00:38:51pass there someday in red lines, all this is unclear
00:38:54to people, therefore today... there is
00:38:58such a specialty as urbanism, urbanology, and
00:39:01there is this specialty at the State University, I believe
00:39:05that this is just the beginning of the journey, when urbanologists appear, this is
00:39:09exactly the group of people who can be this
00:39:12link between residents and city authorities, or
00:39:16the deputy corps can also take on this function,
00:39:20to translate, well, combine residents' requests
00:39:23and, well, translate them to the city authorities and from the city authorities
00:39:27- explain to residents what is planned here, why
00:39:30the city needs to be densified, that it is not for harm,
00:39:34but that the task
00:39:36of the city mayor is to make the city efficient, well, yes, that this action has
00:39:40a certain meaning, in this regard, to be honest, I would even act without
00:39:44intermediaries, I would say that this is exactly, you know, as they say, there is such
00:39:47a meme, this is needed by your mom, your dad, you, in general, urbanism
00:39:51is needed by everyone, like with a doctor, you don't
00:39:53sometimes discuss whether to have an operation with a doctor or not,
00:39:57he... you need to cut, because he, he is a specialist in
00:40:00this, we can express our opinion, but yes,
00:40:04there are specialists who need
00:40:06to be trusted,
00:40:09and in general, what does an architect risk? His name, reputation,
00:40:13of course, is at stake, is it important to you that somewhere under
00:40:16the project it says Nikolai Vlasyuk, just so you don't, you know, fall flat on your face,
00:40:20of course, in your hometown, this reputational
00:40:24component is very important, and there are different approaches in the world, uh-huh.
00:40:27The Soviet approach was that the chief architect of the city,
00:40:31he could cross out a project that was brought to him and
00:40:34say, here you need to draw a different facade, I don't
00:40:38like it, his subjective opinion could
00:40:41prevail, let's see how it was, for example, there, I don't know, in the same
00:40:44Europe, imagine that Sir Norman Foster
00:40:48comes to the chief architect of London, with
00:40:51his, well, cucumber-shaped building
00:40:55or with some exclusive ones.
00:41:27responsibility the one who designs, then I am for that.
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