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00:03:41showed such art, then nothing good would come of it.
00:03:44That's just how it happened that Tchaikovsky's famous Swan Lake became a symbol of upheaval
00:04:13in the last years of the Soviet Union, and later a geopolitical
00:04:16catastrophe. But several
00:04:20decades later, in the summer of 2026, this
00:04:23legendary ballet was destined to become yet another symbol
00:04:26of monstrous and cynical Russophobia among our
00:04:29Baltic neighbors. The Minister, if I may
00:04:32say so, of Lithuanian Culture, Mr.
00:04:34Alsis, in his couple of weeks in this position, stated,
00:04:37Quote: Tchaikovsky has no place on the
00:04:40stage of the Lithuanian theater. In this sense, the new broom in the Lithuanian government
00:04:43sweeps in the old way, so to speak, in the spirit of the entire
00:04:46Baltic Russophobic tradition, and there
00:04:50are democratic taboos everywhere.
00:04:53Raimonds Pauls' music is banned in Latvia, while in Estonia
00:04:57a threat to national security was seen not only in
00:05:00Russian voiceovers of films, now this is unacceptable,
00:05:04but in Russian-language prescriptions for
00:05:07medicines. Such instructions were removed from
00:05:10the Estonian register of medical preparations. Indignant
00:05:13patients are advised to use an
00:05:17online translator. What is this, if not another
00:05:20low point? We will discuss here and now the most diverse opinions.
00:05:23Next to me in this studio is:
00:05:27Mikhail Oksenyuk, member of parliament, representative of the National Assembly of Belarus,
00:05:30hello, good, Andrey Starikov, editor-in-chief
00:05:33of the Baltnews information agency. the nineties,
00:05:37when even a simple ticket for public transport
00:05:40for 5 kopecks, when
00:07:12a Russian-speaking person asks a Latvian, for example, or
00:07:16a Latvian woman, they would say "Russian pig,
00:07:19even a ticket is too good for you." I heard such situations, I
00:07:22remember, well, the
00:07:26roots, the roots are actually, I think,
00:07:29from the very creation,
00:07:32from the very creation of the
00:07:35state of Latvia, Lithuania,
00:07:38if we go so far back in history,
00:07:41then when Latvia actually got its true Latvian
00:07:45statehood, exactly in
00:07:481918, this was the first mention of an independent
00:07:51Latvian state. The Soviet Socialist
00:07:55Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic, well, then they united,
00:07:58disunited, it wasn't destined to last long for them - in Russian -
00:08:02it's 57%. That is, Riga is a dominant Russian
00:08:05city. The problem is that only so-called ethnic
00:08:09Latvians are allowed to come to power, who, as a result,
00:09:12form this foreign policy. And your personal, your colleagues',
00:09:15perception of Latvia as a whole. And of course, in our country
00:09:18there are some 10% of people who, succumbing to this
00:09:22policy, broadcast it to people on the streets and through insults,
00:09:25and through all sorts of unpleasant statements. I'll also leave you
00:09:28this as a gift, we have comments like... can I say the word "vomit,"
00:09:32well, on the internet, Russians are called "occupant's vomit,"
00:09:36and this is considered the norm today, when
00:09:39a person with a Latvian name and a Latvian surname leaves such comments
00:09:42on the internet, they won't be prosecuted for it, so I'll tell you this, that
00:09:46today the external, let's say, temperature towards our
00:09:49country, it is formed by a handful of politicians, but not
00:09:53by people, well, I didn't accidentally, maybe even
00:09:57partially provocatively, start with this example, because... you are absolutely
00:10:01right, that it is precisely
00:10:04the Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian
00:10:08government and the Baltic
00:10:11people, it's like... they say in a famous city
00:10:15two big differences, Andrey Dmitrievich, you work, like us, with
00:10:18information, you know very well that this is a tool, that this is a peculiar
00:10:21weapon, and you
00:10:25undoubtedly encounter a huge
00:10:28amount of very different information
00:10:32about the Baltics, what surprises you the most, I understand that it's difficult
00:10:36to surprise a journalist with anything, what surprises you
00:10:39the most in the current
00:10:42positioning of these, well, let's say, essentially
00:10:46nationalistic sentiments
00:10:49of those who are in charge, nothing has surprised me for a long time,
00:10:53but the fish rots from
00:10:56the head, regarding this Russophobia,
00:10:59whether it is everyday or political, it is a kind of
00:11:01symbiosis, because politicians,
00:11:04those who seized power in the early
00:11:07nineties, they set the norm, they set the
00:11:10standard. They show that it is possible, that it is normal,
00:11:13that it is promising for career
00:11:16growth, for personal enrichment.
00:11:19Residents of Latvia remember when it was said in the Latvian parliament,
00:11:22in the Saeima, Russians, we don't
00:11:26need you to know our language, we need you to know
00:11:30your place, and this is, in general,
00:11:32a roadmap, it is a guide to action, it is
00:11:36goal setting, and those stories with which you began,
00:11:39they... are precisely about creating
00:11:43maximally unfriendly,
00:11:46uncomfortable, hellish conditions so that Russians
00:11:50leave, "suitcase, train station, Russia," they said all 25, already 30 years,
00:11:54starting from the singing revolution of 1988,
00:11:56when those who fled after
00:11:59the war came to Latvia, still Soviet Estonia,
00:12:02Lithuania. This is the first wave
00:12:06of migration, these are the descendants of Nazis, these are
00:12:09collaborators, these are... and Poland is also trying
00:12:13to quickly comply with Brussels' demands
00:12:17regarding increasing the share of
00:12:19defense, well, or let's be frank, military spending to
00:12:225% of GDP in the name of fighting
00:12:55that very threat from the east.
00:12:58You see, I have repeatedly stated that
00:13:02Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia are not sovereign
00:13:05states, they operate under
00:13:08the guidance and directives of Brussels, mostly our
00:13:12politicians obviously do not have
00:13:13their own opinion,
00:13:19and as you already mentioned in the program, that the people and
00:13:22the government are completely different
00:13:25things, certain decrees,
00:13:28of course, stem from the fact that
00:13:31if you don't create an enemy, then you won't
00:13:35confirm and explain to the people. of Belarus, books, newspapers, video games, and even
00:13:38children's toys. How do Soviet dolls or board games threaten the country's
00:13:41security, the deputies did not explain. A little earlier, the Minister of Culture of Latvia ordered the removal of
00:13:45the Russian language from all institutions of his department by July 30,
00:13:48including the posters of the Riga Chekhov Theater.
00:13:52The theater can continue to create performances in Russian,
00:14:55preserving its artistic originality and enriching
00:14:59the cultural space of Latvia. Art should not
00:15:02lose its diversity, however, public communication
00:15:06of state institutions performs a different
00:15:09function. The educational sphere has also undergone total de-Russification.
00:15:13In Estonia, since last academic year, all kindergartens and primary schools have switched
00:15:16to Estonian. In one of the colleges, after the ban on teaching in Russian,
00:15:19they could not recruit half of the students. Free vocational education is now
00:15:23only available in the state language. In Lithuania, the Russian language,
00:15:26formally protected by the constitution, has become an irritant. In a year,
00:15:29the Language Inspectorate received 50 complaints about its use in public
00:15:33places in Vilnius. The Minister of Education announced the abandonment of Russian schools,
00:15:37only educational institutions for national minorities in EU languages will remain.
00:15:41This transition is possible as early as September of this year. In Latvia,
00:15:45since January, Russian has been excluded from the school curriculum and is not
00:15:49offered as a second foreign language, while linguistic discrimination is observed
00:15:52not only in schools. The Latvian Parliament also approved the closure of public
00:15:56media broadcasting in Russian. Calls are being made to deprive private Russian-language
00:15:59radio stations of FM frequencies. The Russian language is no longer
00:16:03available in Latvian ATMs, banks themselves are prohibited from officially
00:16:07serving customers in Russian. Mikhail
00:16:10Petrovich, nationalism,
00:16:14fascism, it's not necessarily a story about swastikas,
00:16:17it's not necessarily a story about
00:16:21military uniform. By the way, perhaps it's appropriate
00:16:24to recall here that some currently
00:16:28popular clothing brands that
00:16:31position themselves as heavy luxury, actually served,
00:16:35clothed Nazis
00:16:38on the eve of World War II, but then they had
00:16:40to carefully hide it. So, getting back to the question
00:16:44of real fascism, real nationalism,
00:16:47this is what we are talking about, what we saw in the story,
00:16:51does it fit this definition in its
00:16:54essence? Absolutely, of course, it fits
00:16:57this definition, and we understand
00:17:01nationalism, even radical nationalism, this is
00:17:05a vivid example of what is happening today in these countries,
00:17:08what we are talking about, we need to understand that
00:17:11our neighbors wanted to harm us in the economic sphere,
00:17:15it turned out, they shot themselves in the foot, nothing worked out,
00:17:19they ruined their economy, their railways, ports, those
00:17:23which, by the way,
00:17:26you used not quite ethereal words,
00:17:29I will also recall from personal experience, I was on a business trip
00:17:33for many years in Riga, I lived in a hotel, unfortunately, on the
00:17:35first floor, and the
00:18:37first floor is always with
00:18:40an open window, conversations are audible, and you know,
00:18:43maybe this is not indicative, please correct me,
00:18:47the story, but
00:18:50local teenagers, I don't know... young
00:18:53people, drinking light
00:18:57alcohol, discussed something
00:19:00there in Latvian, partly English,
00:19:03but swore with good, select,
00:19:06Russian swear words, is it
00:19:10really so, this is a classic, a huge number
00:19:12of words are currently borrowed by purebred
00:19:15Latvians from the Russian language, the Russian language is much richer,
00:19:19it is much more colorful, and swear words are among those
00:19:22words that express emotions, like...
00:19:26political positioning. We currently
00:19:29have no liberals, centrists, leftists, rightists, anyone, they have disappeared,
00:19:32we have political nationalism today, all parties
00:19:36that are currently entering the ruling
00:20:50bloc with Brussels' permission must be political
00:20:52nationalists, that is, it's a test, of course, you
00:20:56pass it, you're fine,
00:20:59exactly, but as you know, many people are guided by what
00:21:02the first persons of the state say, and if such people allow
00:21:06themselves to call everyone... in the Estonian language, but translated
00:21:09into Russian, it sounds
00:21:12as follows: a good grill makes bitter
00:21:15onions sweet, well, the whole problem is that the word
00:21:19"onion" in a conversational
00:21:50context in Estonia, well, translated from
00:21:52Estonian, can be used as a derogatory nickname
00:21:56for the Russian-speaking population, that's roughly what
00:22:00you're talking about, well, look, it's not all so
00:22:03homogeneous, there's a political discussion, even local
00:22:07sports, who are these Russians, are they in Shili, are they...
00:22:10monkeys, should they be chopped, or marinated, or
00:22:13fried, so it's not all homogeneous
00:22:16here either, this discussion about how to oppress all
00:22:20aliens, dissidents,
00:22:23foreign speakers, it exists, we need to
00:22:26take this into account, because in the context of their pressure
00:22:30on the Russian language, they themselves fall into a kind of schizophrenia,
00:22:33if we observe, they tried to make the Russian language an instrument
00:22:37to fight us. I remember in Riga there was a conference
00:22:41by Beglov Mansky from Russia on agents, "Russian
00:22:44is not Putin's language," they tried to use Russian to fight
00:22:48us, they placed editorial offices there,
00:22:52media, Belarusians know how Lithuania became a stronghold
00:22:55and a farm for fugitive zmagars,
00:22:58but now, maybe this is even to our advantage, their
00:23:02cave Russophobia, xenophobia,
00:23:06rejection of everything else has reached the point that the Russian language
00:23:09is bad for them in any form, even as a weapon against
00:23:13us, but before that for many years there was indeed a discussion,
00:23:16how to use Russian, what TV channels are needed, how
00:23:20to fool Russians, now they have abandoned this, Russians
00:23:24are absolute marginalized people, they are on the periphery,
00:23:27they are outside the agenda, they are outside the information
00:23:31space, as if they don't exist, and as
00:23:34a consequence, yes, one line of conduct remained - to create
00:23:38such conditions so that everyone leaves,
00:23:41and those who don't want to, who resist, criminal cases,
00:23:44prison, imprisonment, up
00:23:48to physical elimination, I believe, we can
00:23:52observe, they are capable of going that far, regarding leaving me, yes,
00:23:55yes, yes, please, look, even Wikipedia offers us,
00:23:58this Estonian word "tybla", which offends
00:24:01Russian speakers, offers us even an explanation of this
00:24:05word, that is, you understand, today we already receive information
00:24:09in official normative sources, if you want to call a Russian
00:24:11person names, use this word, ah, that is, there is already
00:24:15such a legal tool, please, everything is available,
00:24:19Wikipedia offers it, let's continue with what
00:24:22you were talking about, Antanas, it
00:24:26seems to me that in this sense,
00:24:29last year's story is very indicative,
00:24:32in the year of the eightieth anniversary of the great
00:24:36victory, in Latvia they deported
00:24:39a ninety-eight-year-old veteran,
00:24:43Vasily Moskalenov, everyone
00:24:45talked about this story, well,
00:24:48this story is not unique, it seems to me,
00:24:51this is also such a monstrous
00:24:54and cynical slap in the face to the generation of those
00:24:58who once liberated this land, such
00:25:01a situation that you mentioned in Latvia was similar
00:25:05in Lithuania, and people who
00:25:09extend, for example, in Lithuania, I can say more
00:25:12about Lithuania, extend, for example, a temporary residence permit,
00:25:15there is a mandatory question, whose Crimea. And
00:25:19there were many stories when people answered, or I
00:25:22don't know, or answered that it belongs to Russia, and they
00:25:26were deprived of their temporary residence permit, including, I know
00:25:29one story, in which a person lived in Lithuania
00:25:32for 40 years, and his temporary residence permit was not extended,
00:25:36that is, these algorithms work,
00:25:40I want to add to the conversation that you
00:25:43mentioned these Estonians who were grilling meat, so in Lithuania, all
00:25:46the media simply... rejoiced, praised
00:25:50this advertisement, said, how clever the Estonians are,
00:25:54how originally they came up with it, and how good it all is,
00:25:57that is, in Lithuania, it happened.
00:26:01Well, I have a whole team, we
00:26:32sit and work, monitor social networks, what
00:26:36is happening in Lithuania, and we notice this very often,
00:26:39that is, when it is profitable, some write it, praise
00:26:42it, how good it all is, that is, they give it
00:26:46legitimacy,
00:27:32preparing for this program, and I was,
00:27:34frankly, shocked, truly shocked. So, in
00:27:382019 in Tallinn, at a public transport
00:27:41stop, a tram stop, they tried to separate,
00:27:44although this sign didn't hang for long, to separate this part
00:27:48of the stop for those who speak
00:27:51Russian, and this part of the stop for real
00:27:54Estonians. For me, as...
00:27:57when older guys took
00:27:59a little boy, put him somewhere on
00:29:03the street, hid themselves, a guy walked by, he harassed
00:29:06this guy, provoked him, he grabbed his ear, and they come up to you,
00:29:10"Why are you hurting the little ones?" This is the situation
00:29:14we have today, in my opinion, with the Baltic
00:29:17countries, against the backdrop of the conflict in Ukraine,
00:29:21an island of instability is being created on Russia's
00:29:24borders, on Russia's northwest borders. It's clear that it
00:29:28may not come to a hot phase, but it forces Russia
00:29:31to turn its head in that direction.
00:29:34This is nothing else but support,
00:29:37this is all that we are talking about, we are stating
00:29:41facts that far from all residents
00:29:44of the Baltic states
00:29:47support this state of affairs, but this is roughly like what happened
00:29:51in our country in 2020, 1-2% of the population
00:29:55formed an opinion, tried to impose it, the majority for some reason
00:29:58believed in it, and today what is happening, I am deeply convinced that
00:31:02Therefore, we should not deprive them of subjectivity,
00:31:05this puts us into a trap, makes our foreign policy
00:31:09vulnerable, these are those who, in general, fueled
00:31:13the Ukrainian conflict as well.
00:31:46from your sphere in Latvia they published statistics on
00:31:50punishments for using the Russian
00:31:53language, well, that is, the machine is working and, yes, here
00:31:56I will also quote, for the first half of 2026,
00:32:00366 administrative cases, with
00:32:03fines provided, an increase in fines,
00:32:07which for individuals will increase from 35
00:32:10to a maximum of 195 euros, for
00:32:13legal entities up to... 700 euros, in some cases up to
00:32:165,000 euros,
00:32:19a good addition to the
00:32:22budget, it turns out, for 2025 there were 610 fines, so they
00:32:26haven't fulfilled the plan yet, they will still reach it. I always,
00:32:29this is my personal pain, since I have been living in these shoes for 42
00:32:33years, the problem of this aggression
00:32:36of nationalism began a long time ago, 26 years ago, 42
00:32:39years, fights between Russian and Latvian children in Latvia
00:32:43were an absolute norm. At 14, we were
00:32:47pitted against each other, and we really fought in the street, district
00:32:51against district, Latvians against Russians, that is, you must understand that
00:32:54the problem was laid, born, cultivated
00:32:57in advance. Today you are talking about the world community, but why in
00:33:012000 did no one notice that Russian children
00:33:04were convinced that they needed to go to a Latvian school and break windows, in the opposite
00:33:08direction, and today those same children are already over 30, they were
00:33:12further diluted by our repatriates, who in the forties or... with their parents
00:33:16or were later born in America in special conditions, were returned
00:33:19back, that is, today the result of 22 and
00:33:2326 is a fairly clear,
00:33:25measured and well- constructed work, starting from the moment
00:33:29when our Latvia gained its independence, therefore, I suggest that today
00:33:33we do not kick, we have a huge historical, let's say,
00:33:36process, in which certain mistakes were made, it will
00:33:40resolve itself, it will pass itself. Today it has not resolved itself and has not
00:33:43passed, so we have...
00:35:15people are offered, I can already be offered to indicate Belarusian, my father is Belarusian,
00:35:18apparently they are significantly more in it, that's the whole point, when changing a passport
00:35:22at a certain point, the authorities of the Baltic countries put pressure on
00:35:26you to remove the statistics, you see? And Mikhail
00:35:29Petrovich, you are a parliamentarian, so speaking legally,
00:35:33what does that mean, I will try to use
00:35:36this word very carefully, is it
00:35:40not genocide
00:35:43that we are dealing with?
00:35:46if we dig deep and actually look at the concept
00:35:50of the word genocide, then that's exactly what it
00:35:53smells like, it's the extermination of an entire nation,
00:35:57the Russian nation, extermination by any means, even
00:35:59if it's not killing, not bringing to death, but
00:36:03it's, say,
00:36:06silencing, it's transforming a person into another nationality,
00:36:10if you will, it's roughly the same thing, if we're not talking about
00:36:13genocide of a people, then we can safely talk about genocide of a nation,
00:36:17therefore, of course, such actions are very, very on the verge
00:36:21of genocide, but here I fully support
00:36:24you, by the way, Dmitry. So this is a classic ghetto, I don't remember this exact scene, so
00:36:47I won't comment on it,
00:36:50but yes, there is ghettoization, Russians
00:36:52often live compactly, these are eastern
00:36:56regions, this is Daugavpils in Latvia, this is
00:37:00Ida-Viru in Estonia, and the central
00:37:03republican government treats these regions, well, not
00:37:07as a poor relative, but as some kind of dogs,
00:37:10underfunding, constant jabs,
00:37:13constant reproaches, constant suspicions, that there
00:37:16is a nest of separatists, that there is the Narva
00:37:20People's Republic, the Dviná People's
00:37:23Republic, these people are not accepted as their own,
00:37:26these people are feared, while
00:37:29simultaneously scaring, implementing an aggressive policy towards
00:37:33them, so of course, there is ghettoization, not
00:37:36within the capitals, where municipalities
00:37:39are divided into districts and the attitude towards districts where Russians,
00:37:43Russian speakers live compactly, is, well, with
00:37:46disdain, this has always been the case regarding
00:37:50genocide,
00:37:52I agree with my colleague, yes, genocide, because if we look at
00:37:56EU documents.
00:38:27appropriate word, let's operate with the concept of genocide,
00:38:30even if it doesn't have
00:38:34a strict legal fixation, this is the task of lawyers
00:38:37to determine the decision of the International Court of Justice, UN,
00:38:41whether it is genocide or not, but our assessment, political assessment, I
00:38:44believe, can be such, and it should
00:38:47be such. I will allow myself once again within the framework
00:38:51of our program, to recall a personal situation, I
00:38:54already mentioned it a few broadcasts ago in another context, but
00:38:58now I simply cannot not talk
00:39:01about this. More than 10
00:39:04years ago, my interview in Tallinn in
00:39:08a business center with a veteran of the Great Patriotic
00:39:10War. I really want to believe that he
00:39:14is still alive and well, but when the head of that
00:39:17very business center,
00:39:21passing by, heard that we were speaking Russian, we were simply
00:39:24asked to go outside.
00:39:29Andrey Viktorovich, in Latvia, could such a situation have
00:39:33taken place? Well, look, twenty-third
00:39:36year, 25 thousand people who have
00:39:40a residence permit, absolutely legal for staying on the territory of the Latvian
00:39:43Republic, are being put into the status of future deportation.
00:39:4625 thousand people, how do you think, how are our people generally
00:39:50treated today, today in general? These 25
00:39:54thousand people were supposed to be taken to Russia.
00:39:57Where they want, but only outside the European Union. Therefore,
00:40:00today, if you call for any humanity and the opportunity
00:40:03to assess, so to speak, the emotional state of our authorities, it is absolutely
00:40:07meaningless. I told you about this case, when
00:40:10a pure-blooded Latvian woman, pure-blooded, with two
00:40:13children from a Russian guy, who has a Russian passport and a Latvian residence permit,
00:40:17wakes up in the morning to find herself being pulled out of bed and taken to
00:40:20the border. And the minister, who, for humanitarian reasons, was
00:40:24obliged to reunite this family and bring the boy back.
00:41:27the very fact of Russophobia, discrimination, as
00:41:31we have already designated today, genocide, will be legally
00:41:34enshrined at the UN level. And this is already
00:41:37a global precedent, claims
00:41:40our correspondent. Russians in the Baltics have been an argument in
00:41:44someone else's political game for too long. In May, Moscow announced its intention
00:41:48to file a lawsuit with the International Court of Justice against Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia for
00:41:51systematic infringement of the rights of the Russian-speaking population. For Russia,
00:41:55the issue is no longer limited to stating violations of concern in
00:41:58diplomatic notes. It is about the security of its own citizens and
00:42:02compatriots, about preserving the Russian
00:42:05There are more than enough arguments for court: dismantling of monuments, renaming of
00:42:09historical streets, criminal cases against Russian-speaking human rights activists,
00:42:13journalists, politicians, teachers, priests, mass dismissals and
00:42:16finally forced evictions. A glaring example was
00:42:19the deportation to Russia of 74-year-old Latvian
00:42:22pensioner Grigory Yeryomenko, who failed the Latvian
00:42:26language test. He is not the first and probably far from the last Russian-speaking
00:42:29pensioner deported by local authorities. Simple
00:42:33people, normal people, one might say,
00:42:36human, but this government.
00:43:10they were not forbidden to live, work, pay taxes, they were actually erased from
00:43:13the political body of the country. The Baltics in this sense is a laboratory of the future,
00:43:17everything that has been worked out here on the Russian question will then be transferred to another
00:43:21territory, where the West needs to break historical memory. Ukraine has long
00:43:25been following this path, and Moldova is already on the rails. Here are the fruits of the
00:43:28meat producer in Estonia refusing to remove an advertisement that caused a storm
00:43:32of indignation. Two men with Ukrainian flags on their sleeves, behind
00:43:36them the smoke from fires, the inscription "the right grill changes the bitter taste of onions
00:43:39to". This is how they joke, using slang that is forbidden in any decent
00:43:43society. Well, in indecent society, Russian-speakers are called
00:43:46onions. There is a huge number of angry comments online,
00:43:50accusations of inciting ethnic hatred. MEP Yana Toom got angry.
00:43:53"What's that in your background, dear sausage makers?
00:43:57The idea is that everyone who buys your sausage thinks they are eating
00:44:00a burnt enemy?" But behind this process is a combination of politicians and
00:44:04special services, who perfectly understand what the former Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas,
00:44:08who became the chief diplomat, is doing.
00:44:26how will the International Court of Justice behave, Mikhail
00:44:28Petrovich? Here, is the decision or the
00:44:32precedent itself important, in your opinion? I think the
00:44:36precedent is important. Doesn't the situation in the Baltics today remind
00:44:40you of the situation in Ukraine 10 years ago? It's roughly the same thing. Russia
00:44:43was forced to intervene in the rights
00:44:46of its citizens, the protection of the rights of its citizens.
00:44:50This appeal to the international court will already be a fact and a precedent:
00:44:54whether you recognized it or not, whether you dealt with it or not, but we reacted
00:44:57according to international norms. If the international
00:45:00community did not react, Russia will still be forced
00:45:04to protect the rights of its citizens by other
00:45:07means and ways. Well, by what means? 20
00:45:40million people remained outside their native, so to speak,
00:45:43land. My parents gave the first generation - that's me, we already gave
00:45:46the second generation, and today these millions have grown, doubled or tripled,
00:45:50and today these are absolutely legal hostages of
00:45:53the European Union, and one way or another, through these
00:45:57people they will force Russia to react,
00:46:01to react with as many mistakes as possible, but in this case I
00:46:05will support the decision of the leadership of the Russian Federation that appealing to court is the most correct
00:46:09diplomatic step. What the result will be is a big question,
00:46:12but the fact that it will not solve the root of the problem, we were only
00:46:1620 million there at the beginning, now multiply that forward, we
00:46:20remained there, and no matter what, the new center of influence in the new
00:46:23geography in our hemisphere, where the Republic of Belarus and the Russian
00:46:27Federation are located, will have to solve this problem. You will have to, one way or another, pay
00:46:31attention to the fact that there are people there who need your help and your protection.
00:46:34Court is a formality. And it seems to me that this is also a very
00:46:38such a... appropriate,
00:46:41timely and quite effective
00:46:44public test for the international
00:46:47community, for international institutions, for the same
00:46:50United Nations organization,
00:47:22who is trying to tape together the
00:47:26remnants of international law with this electrical tape,
00:47:29this is the right move, the colleague absolutely rightly
00:47:32noted, if not the International Court of Justice, then everything,
00:47:36diplomacy has exhausted itself, and how
00:47:39will the Russian side further solve the Russian
00:47:42question in the Baltics, well, as they say, think for yourself
00:47:46what tools are left, because therefore this is a very
00:47:49serious story, and the Balts got scared. The Latvians
00:47:53got scared, the Latvian intelligence bureau for the protection of
00:47:56the constitution has already released huge
00:47:59reports, releases, they called it in English,
00:48:03law fare, law as
00:48:06law, fare as welfare, hostilities, they called
00:48:10it a legal
00:48:12war. What is more important is the media effect, what is more important
00:48:16is to keep it on the agenda, what is more important is to discredit
00:48:19Latvian national policy and the Baltics
00:48:23in general. They are absolutely right, yes, legal
00:48:26war, yes, it's a tool, yes, these are actions that
00:48:30are possible, yes, this is a drain on their
00:48:33resources, because they need to hire lawyers, they need to, now they are
00:48:36dealing with pre-trial matters, well, mostly ignoring it,
00:48:40but they are fussing, then a lawsuit
00:48:43will follow, then a case will be opened, this
00:48:46will drag out millions, one, two, 10 million, this will drag out
00:48:49time, this will drag out...
00:48:52the forces of national courts and legal scholars instead of imprisoning
00:48:56Russians or stamping out new laws on discrimination against
00:49:00Russians, they will be busy with this. So even from this
00:49:03side there is some plus, but the story is extremely serious,
00:49:07because if not this platform, then everything, diplomacy has
00:49:11exhausted itself. Further, in other words, it's such a last frontier,
00:49:14a last test, you know, I have everything with me, I have material with me,
00:49:18where my child, not yet 5 years old, is walking with his mother.
00:49:22She specially filmed it and sent it to me and refuses to go to kindergarten. When asked why, she says: they
00:49:26forbid me to speak Russian there. That is, imagine,
00:49:29there is such a small child in a winter jumpsuit, yes. Therefore,
00:49:32when we talk about jurisprudence, about diplomacy, about processes that are only
00:49:35going up, up, up, everything is fine, yes, that is, today we have there outside the Republic
00:49:39of Belarus, where there is absolute stability, absolute transparency, concepts, yes, that
00:49:43is, in the rule of law, there is a wild insane
00:49:47world, gentlemen, in which there are three categories of people:
00:49:50citizen, non-citizen. hello and
00:49:53non-citizen, yes, that is, a person who is forbidden to participate in 40 professions,
00:49:57a person who is forbidden to vote, a person who only works and pays
00:50:00taxes. You understand, it's hard to say how much longer our people on
00:50:04the other side will last, while in the big corridors of the courts, someone will
00:50:08walk around and try to achieve something. It's hard. This is the part of the world that
00:50:11publicly positions itself as democratic
00:50:15Europe. Well, I would still like to
00:50:18continue the thesis about the International Court of Justice. That's what you
00:50:22were talking about, but it seems to me that this is also a very
00:50:25important story about
00:50:29human and historical justice,
00:50:32yes, it's unlikely that anyone will pay the bills, but this very
00:50:36precedent, a public precedent will be created, and
00:50:40it seems to me, Mikhail Petrovich, that this correlates very clearly
00:50:43with the story familiar to us here in
00:50:46Belarus, the criminal case of the genocide of the Belarusian
00:50:49people, within which we, by the way,
00:50:53cooperate closely with Russia, and yes, these
00:50:56war criminals, well, due to time, due to the fact that they
00:50:59have already left this world, they did not receive physical
00:51:03punishment, but forever
00:51:07by legal letter, by the letter of the law, it will be written that
00:51:10yes, they are criminals. It seems to me that this story is also about that, yes, this
00:51:14story is about that, and if you, perhaps we all noticed, we didn't
00:51:17want to dig into this whole story, it was what it was,
00:51:21we are ready to live peacefully.
00:52:06Colleagues, well, let's wait and see how
00:52:09this very complex story will develop. Let's hope
00:52:12that sooner or later, well, it
00:52:15will certainly happen, sooner or later justice
00:52:18will prevail.
00:52:49paint over the picture, then indeed, or is this
00:52:52still a hint
00:52:55from the neural network that the task was set by the leadership, and simple
00:52:58people are carrying it out, they are painting over the wrong things, not what
00:53:02should be painted over, not what the leadership would want
00:53:06to be painted over. Alexey Viktorovich,
00:53:09Tchaikovsky,
00:53:17picture shows a very simple situation. The
00:53:20time of the vampire ball, remember what a very famous person said, is coming
00:53:24to an end, but they are still trying to paint over this end, to somehow
00:53:27delay it, but it's inevitable. Today it's clear that this empire
00:53:31will collapse. It's a matter of time. Well, the question is -
00:54:16We will introduce you to Belarusians who
00:54:19consciously exchanged the city for the village. At the age
00:54:22of 17, she lost her mother. My
00:54:26mother got cancer, she burned out very quickly, well, of course, for
00:54:29our family, for me, a young girl, it
00:54:33was a shock. survived this and decided not
00:54:37to become a city dweller, but to return to her native
00:54:40village after studying. I am just like that, all Belarus is my home
00:54:44and I cannot imagine another life. Most of
00:54:47the time her husband is working in the north, she raises
00:54:51a two-year-old child alone. They believed in
00:54:54themselves, in their strength and achieved results in their
00:54:57favorite business. She moved to the village not to
00:55:01find herself, she moved to survive.
00:55:05things, I drove to the market and bought chicks with ducklings,
00:55:15but with taste, it was not a move, it was a flight, I
00:55:18packed the necessary
00:55:22I met my husband under very interesting
00:55:25circumstances, I was returning with a bucket, and
00:55:29in front of me was Anatoly,
00:55:31and I decided that he wanted to kiss me. Project
00:55:35"I'm from the village," watch on Belarus
00:55:3824 channel.
00:55:42Bumper August is coming, and with it, the time
00:55:46of big calculations, where every ear, every
00:55:49grain is under control. Time is money. Machine operators do not
00:55:53miss a single good day, they work as a team
00:55:56for a common result. Why do you need good balers anyway?