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00:00:00left his post. This is the end of my six-year political
00:00:04journey, which went from a historical defeat in
00:00:062019 to a historical victory in
00:00:102024. In 2 years of work, I am
00:00:13leaving the country in a better state than when I
00:00:16came. To everyone present in the gallery whose lives have changed
00:00:20or improved thanks to the Labour government,
00:00:23to everyone across the country who struggles to be seen
00:00:27or heard, you are the reason why... I entered
00:00:30politics. Where is the point of no return after which
00:00:34Downing Street ceased to be a citadel of stability and turned into a pass-through
00:00:38yard? It seems it all started with Brexit. David Cameron, the youngest
00:00:42Prime Minister in Great Britain since 1812.
00:00:456 years in power, stable ratings, firm hand. Everything changed in
00:00:492015. He himself called a referendum on Britain's exit
00:00:53from the European Union, hoping to once and for all close the painful dispute
00:00:56within his party and put to shame the Eurosceptics. However,
00:01:00his overconfidence proved unjustifiably risky.
00:01:03The majority - 52% voted to leave the
00:01:06EU. The next morning, Cameron resigned. Although, it seems,
00:01:09he was not very upset about losing power; on the contrary, he sighed with relief and
00:01:13left the post of Prime Minister singing.
00:01:17I will take part in Prime Minister's Questions in the House of Commons for the last time.
00:01:20After that, as I expect, I will go to the
00:01:23palace to submit my resignation. Thus, by
00:01:27evening the country will have a new Prime Minister. the building behind
00:01:31me.
00:01:38Theresa May received from him a country that had already voted for divorce from
00:01:42the European Union, but did not yet understand the price of this decision. Her
00:01:45task sounded simple: to agree with Brussels on the terms of exit and
00:01:49to pass this agreement through the British Parliament. The main problem was
00:01:53the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. No one wanted to bring back
00:01:56customs posts and effectively divide the island in two. May
00:02:00offered a compromise to the EU, but it did not suit almost anyone.
00:02:04Supporters of an uncompromising Brexit believed that it left Britain
00:02:07too dependent on Europe, and opponents of leaving the EU did not
00:02:11want such a divorce at all. As a result, MPs voted against
00:02:15her deal three times. May was remembered for the phrase "Brexit means
00:02:18Brexit," which no one understood. Then came to power,
00:02:22as he was immediately defined, a clown with a ridiculous, disheveled
00:02:25hairstyle. He was also an eccentric politician with promises
00:02:29to bring Brexit to. To be fair, Boris Johnson
00:02:32did officially withdraw the country from the EU, but then drowned in
00:02:36a series of scandals, from renovating the Downing Street residence to
00:02:39parties during the COVID lockdown. There were many such stories,
00:02:42although often he got away with it. On this
00:02:46basis, Johnson even got a telling nickname: slippery
00:02:50pig. The apt definition belongs to
00:02:53Cameron. Boris Johnson will hardly be remembered as
00:02:56a politician whose efforts were aimed at improving.
00:03:30several weeks as Prime Minister. Liz Truss dreamed of becoming the new Margaret
00:03:34Thatcher, of bringing about an economic breakthrough through sharp tax cuts, but
00:03:37instead of the expected breakthrough, there was panic in the markets, a fall
00:03:41in the pound, and a rise in borrowing costs. Her premiership was record-short,
00:03:4445 days. However, if not for the mockery
00:03:48online, May would have remained unnoticed. The tabloid, Daily Star,
00:03:52streamed with a head of lettuce, the purpose of the experiment was to compare the lifespan
00:03:55of the plant with the duration of Truss's stay in high office. Spoiler:
00:03:59the lettuce
00:04:00won.
00:04:05After Truss's short but destructive premiership, the British economy
00:04:08literally had to be pulled out of an economic hole. To the rescue
00:04:12came the charmer Rishi. Sunak received his nickname during
00:04:16the pandemic, while he was Minister of Finance, for his impeccable
00:04:19suits, neat appearance, calm manner of speaking, and
00:04:22unchanging gray hoodie at informal meetings. Against the backdrop
00:04:25of a disheveled Johnson and a nervous Truss, Sunak looked almost
00:04:28like an ideal crisis manager. Initially, indeed,
00:04:32the new leader's policy seemed quite convincing. He made it clear to
00:04:35investors that there would be no new adventures. The budget would again be balanced
00:04:39cautiously, and the markets indeed calmed down. But ordinary
00:04:43Britons did not feel an easy life. Prices remained
00:04:46high, the economy grew slowly, and hospital queues did not
00:04:49disappear. By the 2024 elections,
00:04:52voter fatigue with the conservatives, who had clumsily ruled the country's
00:04:56destiny for 14 years, reached its limit. The party.
00:05:20And the point here is not so much in specific personalities, but in a systemic
00:05:24crisis. The Westminster model, built for decades on
00:05:27a clear pendulum between conservatives and laborites, is
00:05:31failing. The political landscape of the United Kingdom is becoming
00:05:34broader and more diverse. In this situation, instability becomes
00:05:37the norm. The British political boat sways on the waves of populism and
00:05:41economic difficulties. When the list becomes dangerous,
00:05:45the only way to save yourself is to throw the captain overboard
00:05:48so that the whole crew does not capsize. The new
00:05:52British Prime Minister Burnham, having barely taken office, went on vacation
00:05:55two weeks later.
00:06:33Tatiana, for years we were imposed Europe as an earthly paradise,
00:06:37the Eiffel Tower, espresso on the terrace, helicopter money, and
00:06:40a measured life. But when you come to Europe not
00:06:44as a tourist for a week, but as a person who has to
00:06:47work there, raise children, solve everyday problems,
00:06:51something is not right with the painted paradise,
00:06:54tell us about your relocation story and what turned out
00:06:57to be a disappointment? Uh-huh, yes,
00:07:01the relocation was as idealized as possible, because
00:07:04indeed for many years before that we saw it in
00:07:08rosy colors, like the Eiffel Tower, yes, coffee on the
00:07:11terrace and... everything smells of croissants,
00:07:14but in fact, when you come to this country, you
00:07:18face many aspects that
00:07:22you would not get even with very careful,
00:07:25targeted planning, because when you arrive
00:07:29on the spot, you face bureaucracy, you face
00:07:32the tasks of providing children with
00:07:35leisure, education, medicine.
00:07:39These things are not visible when you are a tourist.
00:07:48In Belarus, we are used to the fact that cheap electricity, gas, and a clean
00:07:52yard are a given. So, in Europe, what did you face, what
00:07:55kind of European surprise in the form of utility bills and household
00:07:59issues, and is it true that for renting housing you will have to
00:08:03pay a pretty decent stack of euros?
00:08:07I would even add, not just pay a decent stack
00:08:10of euros, but also win a competition. The name of the most
00:08:13suitable tenant for your future home, I don't know why I decided to answer
00:08:17this question from the end, probably because it was the most painful for me,
00:08:20when there is a need to rent housing, not only do you
00:08:24have to prepare a complete dossier about your family,
00:08:27starting from your preferences, ending with income,
00:08:31respectively, tax
00:08:33declaration, everything must be neatly organized, so when you
00:08:37enter this, this, I don't know, flow
00:08:41of applications for housing, the demand is accordingly
00:08:43gigantic, then well, it's not a fact that you'll be lucky and that
00:08:47you'll be chosen for the title of this tenant, because
00:08:50there are quite a lot of participants and you can't
00:08:53predict. Well, most often they refuse those who
00:08:57have children, most often they refuse those who have pets,
00:09:01respectively, that is, well, the chances of getting good housing in a good
00:09:04area for good money, well, let's just say
00:09:07it's small. A surprise about the bills,
00:09:11well, it's probably not a secret here, but
00:09:13the cost, I don't know, for example, an electricity bill in
00:09:17a one-room apartment was about
00:09:20400 euros in March, well, in my opinion, that's simply, to put it mildly,
00:09:24not at all like in Belarus. So, as
00:09:28for the price of renting an apartment, for example, your family, yes, husband,
00:09:31two children, how much did your rent cost, well, if
00:09:34we were talking about the conditions
00:09:38in which we would like to live, it would be many times more, but those which we...
00:10:13encountered a large number of rejections, doors that
00:10:16I knocked on did not open, many
00:10:19letters, many emails in vain,
00:10:22sending out resumes.
00:10:55Tatyana, please clarify, where exactly did you live, was it some city in France
00:10:58or the capital? Is it true that there are no French people
00:11:02left in France, only migrants? What do you say to that?
00:11:05Yes, I will say, yes, we lived in a small town on the border with
00:11:08Switzerland, we were in Paris when it was necessary to
00:11:12resolve documentary issues there, but I can say
00:11:15unequivocally that both at the edge of this country and
00:11:19in the capital of this country, there is a huge
00:11:22number of migrants, and what we imagined...
00:11:55such a moment, I wouldn't say that it's directly related
00:11:57to me personally, we lived near
00:12:01a city called Annecy, and you probably heard this
00:12:04news, it's a fairly densely populated
00:12:07city with immigrants, a situation occurred there when
00:12:11a man attacked children in a kindergarten with a knife,
00:12:15well, for me it was a complete shock, in my
00:12:18environment there was nothing like that, I didn't encounter it, no one robbed me,
00:12:22on the contrary, there were situations when I lost my backpack.
00:12:45After France, you had a life in Portugal, opening an individual entrepreneurship and thinking that happiness was just around
00:12:48the corner. Tell us about the Portuguese business climate
00:12:51and what turned out to be a disappointment there?
00:12:55Opening an individual entrepreneurship turned out to be quite
00:12:59easy, despite the fact that I expected it to be very
00:13:02difficult, as usual in Europe, but
00:13:06having opened an individual entrepreneurship, I encountered
00:13:08some moments that are absolutely
00:13:11illogical. For example, having opened an individual entrepreneurship, you cannot
00:13:15open a bank account if you lack some
00:13:17documents, that is, you opened an individual entrepreneurship, but it cannot
00:13:21function because you do not have enough resources for it.
00:13:56but it turned out to be quite the opposite, that when I returned home, by pressing
00:13:59three buttons, I opened self-employment, and the answer to
00:14:03which I was looking around the world, I found it at home
00:14:07simply in the first month after returning home.
00:14:10Please tell me about the prices in stores, how much did it cost
00:14:13you to feed a family of four from your budget, well,
00:14:16roughly, I would
00:14:20say that a basic basket, which consists
00:14:23of, let's say, a minimum of... meat,
00:14:25cereals, sweets,
00:14:29vegetables, fruits, that's about 400 euros, probably for a family,
00:14:33but I'm talking about a direct basic
00:14:36minimum, so multiply by
00:14:39four, roughly 1000 euros
00:14:42plus, that's just for food, everything else,
00:14:46please, on top, well, here, calculate it,
00:14:49a thousand for housing, a thousand for food,
00:14:53that's just so that you don't just survive
00:14:57all above, that is, accordingly, in order to live well, in my
00:15:01feeling, in my understanding, two
00:15:03adults in Europe should have about four
00:15:06thousand euros each. Those who came to Europe as tourists
00:15:10like to say, "But Europe has excellent salaries!" So,
00:15:14tell us, what's the deception of this European euro, when you
00:15:17face bills for utilities, for
00:15:21rent, and so on? Yes,
00:15:24here. there is always such a hidden pitfall when you look through
00:15:28the prism of salary in Europe and expenses in Belarus, then in principle
00:15:32you are at a fairly good level, yes, a comrade is always
00:15:35in the black, when you... in the context of European salaries,
00:15:39European expenses,
00:15:42accordingly, here it's pretty obvious that expenses in
00:15:46Europe are significantly
00:15:48higher, and strangely enough, even in terms of salary, I wouldn't have
00:15:52felt that income is higher than expenses, that
00:15:55is, even the salary offer, in the same
00:15:58field of graphic design, it's low, that is,
00:16:02a salary of 1,800 euros, what is 1,800 euros with utilities of
00:16:06400 for electricity? It's nothing, you just spread it out
00:16:09in stacks like that, and you're left with, at best, 300 euros
00:16:12to, well, what to do, eat, probably only,
00:16:15accordingly, unfortunately, I can't
00:16:19please those who are waiting for some positive note in
00:16:23the direction that, well, in Europe everything is so wonderful,
00:16:26we'll go there and live comfortably in our old age and drink
00:16:30coffee, and drink coffee with croissants. Tatyana,
00:16:34well, probably the most interesting question, when did you realize that
00:17:07behind a layer of those moments when you're just over
00:17:10the top with all these emotions,
00:17:14this, let's say, disagreement, as soon as you
00:17:17feel that you're done, you can't move in that
00:17:21direction anymore, you just want to sit down
00:17:24and leave, despite the fact that the expectations were completely
00:17:27different, I can't say that it was anything
00:17:31specific, the only thing is that there were a lot of consecutive
00:17:34negative feedbacks, such a cumulative effect.
00:18:07transparent, easy, comfortable and
00:18:11profitable, because here you enter the
00:18:14application, install it, download it, see your
00:18:18position and your type of activity, while you can
00:18:21calmly pay taxes, breathe freely, come and,
00:18:25so to speak, not be afraid to offer your services for a certain
00:18:29price, and this gives
00:18:32you the opportunity to be free, which is what
00:18:35I was essentially looking for all over Europe.
00:18:38Having returned home, I realized that it was here,
00:18:41freely. You brought back from this trip not souvenirs, but
00:18:45a unique experience. What did you learn about yourself
00:18:49and your home during these 3 years?
00:18:52Well, I guess it's logical to say, "Where one is born, there one is useful."
00:18:56My grandmother told me that all my life, but I didn't listen to
00:18:59her. And through my experience, I brought back
00:19:03a very cool skill, the skill of being able to start everything from scratch.
00:19:08You just stop, do a check-up of your life and say: "No,
00:19:12this doesn't suit me, let's start over, everything," and not
00:19:15be afraid, not be afraid of what people will say about you, not be afraid that when you returned, everyone
00:19:18will say: "Oh, you didn't succeed, you're a failure," don't be afraid,
00:19:21it's your life, I'm getting goosebumps
00:19:24again, it's your life, and only you
00:19:28can move towards what you want in the right way for
00:19:32you. Do you want to go to Europe again, well, maybe as a tourist for
00:19:35croissants? You know, somehow
00:19:38not really, it's probably still too early, when you
00:19:42received so much, yes, negativity,
00:19:46maybe go for a week, see, but what to see, I've seen
00:19:50everything, what have I seen, I've seen small towns and big
00:19:53cities from France to the edge
00:19:56of the continent, no, no,
00:19:58thank you, thank you very much for the interesting interview, thank you for
00:20:02inviting
00:20:02me.