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20260920 16:50 UTC · 01:00:31 · 522 transcript segments · GDELT Visual Explorer · plain-text transcript · Event Map

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00:00:00roads throughout the Minsk region, the scope of work for each season is very
00:00:03extensive, so in the very near future we will see if we managed
00:00:07to work on that same discipline at
00:00:09local level. The food
00:00:13security of the entire country depends on the effectiveness of the harvesting campaign.
00:00:17The State Control Committee inspected the farms of the Dobrushsky district
00:00:20and there were some shortcomings. At the request of the
00:00:23committee, all violations were
00:00:47the Belarusian hinterland to find out how former
00:00:50urban residents live
00:00:52there.
00:00:54She and her husband had no plans at all to move to the village and engage in
00:00:58grape cultivation.
00:01:32The eldest son did not understand his parents and stayed to live in
00:01:36the city. Why do you need this, the village, you are always tied
00:01:39to this, a little later it turned out that there was
00:01:42another very serious problem: we don't have a road, we
00:01:46can't deliver feed, we can't bring hay, we can't
00:01:50bring straw, because the road is simply washed away, the road
00:01:53consists of clay. Despite everything, they believe in a bright
00:01:57future and arrange their life. Watch in the
00:02:00project I am from the village on Belarus
00:02:0424
00:02:05TV channel.
00:02:10Minsk - a capital city, but not
00:02:13bustling, modern, but preserving
00:02:16the memory of centuries, dynamic at the same time
00:02:20cozy. This is a city where history breathes in
00:02:24unison with the future. It amazes with its spaciousness
00:02:27and scope and monumentality.
00:02:32The majestic and strict ensemble of post-war
00:02:35revival, this is the calling card
00:02:38of the city, here one can feel the breath of a great
00:02:41history,
00:02:50but one has only to turn off the wide avenue, and you find yourself in
00:02:54a completely different, intimate and lyrical
00:02:57Minsk. Cozy courtyards. historical
00:03:00quarters, the whisper of the Svislach river, and
00:03:04also Minsk - an incredibly green city, this
00:03:07is a place where it's easy to breathe, everyone will find their own corner for
00:03:11relaxation. Minsk is not only
00:03:15postcard views. It is a cultural and theatrical
00:03:18capital with a bustling life. It is a business
00:03:21and scientific hub where the IT technologies
00:03:25of the future are born.
00:03:27It is sporty, eventful. always ready
00:03:31to surprise,
00:03:40but the main treasure of Minsk is its residents,
00:03:44friendly, hospitable and welcoming,
00:03:48they create that special, kind and safe
00:03:51atmosphere that makes the city truly
00:03:55homely, different, unexpected,
00:03:58attractive. Come and discover it for yourself.
00:04:24Hello, today we have a not quite ordinary program, there will be
00:04:27communication with experts in the studio and...
00:05:00the USSR leadership decided to start
00:05:03a liberation campaign. Well, let's immediately define, there is
00:05:07such a concept that the result of the unification
00:05:10of Belarus is simply, well... the geopolitical stars aligned
00:05:14geopolitical realities, and otherwise nothing would have happened.
00:05:17He who speaks of such things
00:05:20is simply completely illiterate
00:05:24historically, because from 1921, from
00:05:27the Treaty of Riga, and until the end of the thirties,
00:05:31the resistance of the Belarusian people did not stop for a single month, not for a single day, not for a single
00:05:35year, until 1925,
00:05:38it was armed partisan confrontation, after 1925...
00:06:12are not, let's say, in full
00:06:15format subjects of international law, when we talk about the Riga Peace,
00:06:18therefore, if we talk about us,
00:06:21we need to understand one thing: the Belarusian people considered this
00:06:25border unjust from the moment it was drawn on both sides
00:06:28of the border and did everything possible to eliminate this border. I am a project of September
00:06:3217, my father is a Westerner, my mother is an Easterner, one of my
00:06:36grandfathers, mobilized as
00:06:39a reserve lieutenant in the Red Army,
00:06:42took part in the liberation campaign, my second grandfather set up a
00:06:45gate and met his own, if I'm not mistaken, Vyacheslav
00:06:49Viktorovich, your family was also cut alive on the 17th,
00:06:53or rather not on September 17th, but the Riga peace treaty, the language somehow
00:06:56doesn't turn, for me it's just the opposite, my mother is a Westerner, my father
00:07:00is an Easterner, so yes, if it weren't for the reunification in the autumn
00:07:03of 1939, then of course my parents might not
00:07:06have met either, respectively, it's unknown what their fate would have been, yes, my
00:07:10relatives and loved ones,
00:08:05the rights of national minorities were prescribed for free national and cultural
00:08:08development, but they did not observe this and actually from the first days introduced this policy of
00:08:11Polonization. But notice, this pressure, yes, first of all, it must
00:08:15be emphasized unequivocally that the socio-economic situation in Western
00:08:18Belarus was also very difficult for the majority of the population, yes, so,
00:08:22add to this difficult socio-economic situation also
00:08:26national oppression, when they try to reformat the self-awareness
00:08:29of people, Belarusians, yes, to remake them into Poles, add to this also
00:08:32confessional oppression, it is clear that Poland used primarily
00:08:36the Catholic church, which promoted the idea that if you are a Catholic, then you
00:08:40are a Pole, but the Orthodox Church Polonization. Where did the
00:08:43Polish Orthodox Church come from? In 1922 they declared an autocephalous church,
00:08:47from the 1930s the process of its Polonization began, today we
00:08:50observe in eastern Poland, therefore, hundreds of thousands
00:08:54of Orthodox Poles, where did they come from, this is the result of these things in
00:08:58relation to Belarusians and Ukrainians who lived there, so despite all
00:09:01this powerful oppression, the spirit of our people was not broken, this is
00:09:05clearly shown by those secret meetings that were held by the Polish
00:09:08authorities, with the governors of the four Western Belarusian voivodeships, at
00:09:11which it was stated that surveys show that even in the Vilna
00:09:15Voivodeship, where the Catholic population predominated, not
00:09:18every Catholic still considers himself a Pole, not to mention the Orthodox population,
00:09:22and what did they come up with then? They suggested to the central Polish authorities
00:09:26the voivodes from the territory of Western Belarus, they proposed
00:09:29to carry out the resettlement of the Belarusian population, to disperse it
00:09:33dispersedly, yes, in various regions of indigenous Poland, and to settle Western Belarus with
00:09:36Poles, and what was this? This was primarily the destruction
00:09:40of the unity of our people, you notice.
00:10:12He published it in his works, Brest historian Alexander Vabishchevich
00:10:16for the first time. According to this plan, 6 million
00:10:20people were supposed to be relocated to the territory of
00:10:24the west.
00:10:55an inevitable question, when we should return from the past to the present day, why
00:10:58is this holiday, September 17,
00:11:02so important to us today, Denis Vladimirovich? Well, first of all, the events of 1939
00:11:06and 2020 are just a trigger,
00:11:09the Polish question is just a trigger for those
00:11:12processes that we are proclaiming to the whole world today, that we are
00:11:16a united nation, and this unity we forged long before
00:11:19the events of 1921-1939, after all, there were also the 16th
00:11:22and 17th centuries, when in principle... and the same policy of Polonization
00:11:26was characteristic of our lands and the same forms of resistance, resistance
00:11:30to Uniatism, which was artificially imposed, resistance to national
00:11:34oppression, including, resistance in
00:11:37confessional matters took on very acute forms, so what it says is that today we live in a peaceful country,
00:11:41this is given to us by God, this is a right
00:11:45that our ancestors won, approaching the events of 2020,
00:11:482021, when by presidential decree this holiday became
00:11:52nationwide, we say not because we... are building
00:11:55a border with Poland, we are fighting so that 1921
00:11:58never happens again, so that the 16th century
00:12:02never happens again, this union, when in fact no one asked us, when the geopolitical
00:12:06card was played without the participation of Belarusians, or we were used, as
00:12:09in the 15th century, for example, in the same Lublin Union,
00:12:13when the so-called Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was formed, because
00:12:16well, in fact it was called differently, so we
00:12:19must do everything today so that this never happens
00:12:22again, so that without us no one... can divide,
00:12:26I will clarify, time makes us pragmatists, therefore, I
00:12:29recall a year ago the president gathered experts, historians, ideologists,
00:12:33then an interesting phrase, among other things, was heard, on
00:12:37this holiday, our president said then, we are not just talking
00:12:41about the historical reunification of a single nation, we are drawing
00:12:44conclusions, building the future on the experience of the past,
00:12:48it sounds beautiful, there's no arguing with that, from a practical point
00:12:51of view, what is it to build the future on the experience of the past?
00:12:55"We have lived for 80 years, more than 80 years since the 40s, under a peaceful
00:12:58sky, I never tire of repeating this thesis, that if our ancestors, with
00:13:02all their difficult economic situations, the global economic crisis
00:13:06and so on, simply understood that they had the opportunity to live under a peaceful
00:13:09sky for so many years, this would raise several
00:13:13generations of children, and these children, who are raised in
00:13:17a peaceful country, make plans for the future, then this in itself
00:13:20would probably be the main happiness for any Belarusian, and the fact that we
00:13:24today..."
00:14:26so, apologizing a little for my position, so that no one is
00:14:29offended, what is so wrong with us
00:14:33clearly, loudly and firmly defending our interests?
00:14:37This is, well, perhaps, for some, yes, it sounds offensive,
00:14:40harsh, and that we are starting from our own, I don't often, during
00:14:44discussions, I don't often, during discussions of current topical
00:14:47events, see speakers so emotionally
00:14:51charged, program participants, here we seem to be
00:14:54talking about... history, I see how each of you includes something personal, from
00:14:58this I conclude, Vyacheslav, that today it turns out that history is
00:15:01a battlefield, it has always been a battlefield at all
00:15:05times, today, perhaps we see it more broadly,
00:15:09because history is literally everywhere, it's in any
00:15:12Telegram channel, it's in any YouTube channel, it's on
00:15:15the TV screen, it's on the pages of newspapers, it's on the pages
00:15:18of books, history shapes our
00:15:21present, shapes our future, that's why... The role
00:15:25of historians now, people knowledgeable, people
00:15:29who know what they are saying, is especially important, it is very important
00:15:33that a historical fact is a fragment of reality, uh-huh, and we
00:15:36just need to understand.
00:16:07they started honoring those who killed our ancestors, those who
00:16:11burned our villages and hamlets, those who slaughtered our
00:16:14people, they were declared
00:16:17heroes, fighters for Poland's
00:16:19independence, I mean when in
00:16:23the Polish embassy at one time in my memory
00:16:26they honored the soldiers of the Home Army, I will just
00:16:30remind you that I don't know about central Poland, although
00:16:33I do know, but in our lands the Home Army from the end of 1944
00:16:39cooperated with the SS and SD, received weapons from them and took part in the pacification
00:16:42of the civilian population, and not Belarusian historians at all, but the German historian
00:16:46Bernhard Kiari once wrote in his works about how
00:16:50the action to strengthen Polishness in the eastern borderlands
00:16:53took place, this happened back in 1943, 1944, when we talk about the forest
00:16:57bur, we must understand that this is one of many, and
00:17:00that this process on our lands took place back in
00:17:031943-1944 years even during the occupation,
00:18:07about which we are doomed to talk more in this program, in this context, than about our other neighbors,
00:18:11so these neighbors, they are engaged in revision of history at the highest
00:18:15level and at the same time are increasing threats.
00:18:18Well, the Minister of National Defense of Poland
00:18:22Kosiniak-Kamysz, confidently reflects in an interview, his country's
00:18:26goal is to create a half-million army, despite
00:18:29the fact that today the strength of the Polish army is already considerable,
00:18:3222,000. At the same time, it follows from the text of the interview that
00:18:36a separate country.
00:19:07but our Union State is built on respect for the principle of sovereignty of two
00:19:11states, therefore the Republic of Belarus in the modern world is one of
00:19:14the few and one of the few states that has real sovereignty, and what is
00:19:18that? It is a state that implements policies in
00:19:21the interests of its people and its state, and not at the dictation
00:19:25from outside, this is if we say so, yes, we have a union state, but we have sovereignty and our own vision
00:19:28is also present, on the other hand, I will note
00:19:32the fact, unfortunately,
00:19:34modernity shows that the Polish ruling elites. do not learn
00:19:38lessons from history, yes, they forget about those events that
00:19:42happened on the eve of the Second World War, who were then the
00:19:45main allies, how these allies treated the same Poland,
00:19:49now they are still oriented towards Great Britain, towards
00:19:52France, yes, I will illustrate, you continue, look, indeed, this
00:19:56Kosiniak, the Minister of Defense of Poland, says, and he
00:19:59boasts in an interview with the Rzeczpospolita newspaper, he says:
00:20:02Americans consider us and Germans
00:20:05the main states on the continent, leaders of the European
00:20:09security system, listen, about 100 years ago we could have heard something similar
00:20:13from Warsaw, well then we can read it now, then
00:20:16hear it, and what happened after a few years,
00:20:19a catastrophe, it managed to quarrel with all
00:20:22its neighbors, yes, hiding behind this Western pseudo-shield,
00:20:26which then failed it, therefore, the statements, what modern
00:20:30Polish politicians voice, well, they do not stand up to criticism from the point
00:20:33of view of common sense, yes, they should have understood and...
00:22:06unrelated to reality, they constantly dream of
00:22:09the past, project this past onto the present, onto
00:22:13the future, and at the same time do not see that this has, well, no,
00:22:16what are you fundamentally disagreeing with, you see, there is...
00:23:59the United States, using this resource, why does Poland need
00:24:02such an army? In reality, it's not
00:24:06only and not so much because of the threat, as they say, from the Russian
00:24:09Federation, Poland wants to become player number
00:24:12one on the continent and to pay
00:24:15for all historical humiliations, for the salt, for the pain, for...
00:24:50returned to the Polish state, settled by Poles again
00:24:53is part of the current Polish, we will return to this
00:24:57topic, Denis Vladimirovich, is there anything to add to this, well, only one
00:25:00problem, they want to do this at the expense of American money, which today is at
00:25:04the expense of American weapons, which today are spent in the Middle East,
00:25:08therefore, plans to build up the army are also associated with serious
00:25:11socio-economic consequences, everyone also understands this perfectly, but I
00:25:15want to draw attention to this, the beginning of the Second World War somehow
00:25:19throws a bridge. that even such a thought exists among
00:25:22our extremists abroad, that
00:25:26we invented 1939, attention, we Belarusians invented it to
00:25:30justify 1941, that is, you understand how the accents are shifted,
00:25:33let me remind you who actually unleashed the Second
00:25:36World War, the Munich Agreement, and in another way we call it the Munich
00:25:40conspiracy, where in fact the map of Europe was divided,
00:25:44Hitler's hands were untied, and these
00:25:47were the main conditions of the Second World War.
00:26:02Uh-huh, but especially since these territories, as they were part of Poland, so they remained and were,
00:26:06by the way, the first state that concluded a non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany
00:26:10in 1934, now Poles, almost
00:26:14louder than we Belarusians, are discussing the visit
00:26:17to Minsk of Trump's special envoy John Bolton, who met with
00:26:21Alexander Lukashenko not for the first time. First, let's recall a short
00:26:25fragment, and then talk about
00:26:26it.
00:28:02peaceful life and even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Republic of Belarus
00:28:06is the only post-Soviet state that has not allowed armed
00:28:09clashes, that is, any bloody ones, that is, on its territory, this
00:28:13experience of leadership, yes, of such a state in such a difficult
00:28:16situation, of course it arouses interest from the West, the West, well, I mean
00:28:20the United States of America, the United States of America sees that these Western technologies,
00:28:24which they actively use to incite these zones of controlled
00:28:27chaos around the world, color revolutions, and the like in
00:28:31our state.
00:28:34they did not work, yes, based on this, having certain significant interests in terms
00:28:37of Belarus, the same potash that we have, which is needed for
00:28:40agriculture in the United States of America, they prefer
00:28:44to negotiate with the country that has real power on the territory of the Republic
00:28:48of Belarus, which has a mandate of trust
00:28:51of the people, repeatedly confirmed in presidential elections, yes
00:28:55and our president absolutely rightly says that we are open to cooperation
00:28:58with all parties, but on the basis of mutual respect, interest.
00:32:45we do not look, we analyze, Alexander Alexandrovich correctly pointed out that when
00:32:48we analyze modern Polish politics, we
00:32:52nevertheless clearly distinguish, we definitely know, and we see this everywhere,
00:32:56that an ordinary person in the USA, in London, in
00:32:59Paris, does not want war, that is, he doesn't need tanks,
00:33:03by the way, the same Kosiniak, who spoke about the half-million
00:33:06army, he literally stated on the eve in another
00:33:09interview that we have a problem, Poles don't want to
00:33:13fight, ordinary Poles.
00:34:15why he, as it were, has the opportunity to communicate directly with the president,
00:34:18clearly, transmitting there as some contact with
00:34:22Trump, precisely because, apparently, the American administration
00:34:25understood that it was impossible to set such a condition before Minsk,
00:34:29either us or Moscow, Denis Vladimirovich, is this right or wrong?
00:34:33You are right, and moreover, to tear Minsk away from Moscow is a long-standing dream, even
00:34:37starting from the events of 2020, because when with their sanctions
00:34:40they actually, as they themselves admit, strengthened the union of Belarus
00:34:43and Russia.
00:35:32After all, repeatedly improving relations, there were more than enough peace initiatives from Belarus, how many
00:35:36peace initiatives were there from Russia, there was a meeting between Putin and Tusk in
00:35:392009 in Gdansk, when they said let's leave history
00:35:43to historians, it was national.
00:36:15army, and also destroyed all enemy energy facilities in
00:36:186 weeks, he convinced them of this at a security conference in Kyiv,
00:36:22well, and the extremely frank speech of President
00:36:25Navrotskiy, of course.
00:37:57asked about what task is set before historical science, he always
00:38:01answers the same way: the task is one, give us an objective picture of the historical
00:38:04past. We, yes, that is, without distortion or falsification,
00:38:07consider all periods, yes, so, we did this, without
00:38:11deleting anything from our history, but we analyzed each historical
00:38:14period in terms of what was positive and what was negative for our
00:38:18ancestors, for our statehood at various stages
00:38:21of development, this is our strength, this is what we have formed such a historical
00:38:25concept, not at once, it's a long process.
00:39:57as carefully, in Belarusian, they say, they treat their
00:40:00history, because we, remembering that
00:40:03the Home Army in 1943 together with fascist
00:40:07Germany burned our villages in
00:40:10Grodno region, Latvians raged in Verkhnyadvinsk region,
00:40:14Lithuanians also contributed to Grodno region, Ukrainian national battalions
00:40:17participated in punitive expeditions in Belarus, and we have in Mogilev
00:40:21region such a monument, Lenino, instead of a place of military glory, fraternal
00:40:24glory, that is, the Soviet army and...
00:40:38those who are not blinkered, those who see this preservation of continuity, and we protect this memorial, and we
00:40:42honor this memory, and at the same time say that we build our
00:40:46policy on building some barriers with the Polish republic, well, this
00:40:49example, this specific example in Mogilev region, today
00:40:52speaks of something else, there a fence is being built, we
00:40:56are open, we show. our children, our students, here in
00:40:59Mogilev we conducted excursions there, showed this
00:41:03contribution of the peoples of Europe, those who were not
00:41:06blinkered, to the victory over Nazi Germany, what
00:41:09is very unpopular today among Polish politicians and not only Polish
00:41:13politicians, they have only one thing, Muscovites, Soviets, that's all, this is
00:41:16a terrible enemy, and that their ancestors fought against
00:41:20Nazism, liberating our territory of Belarus, they forget about that, there was
00:41:24such a great... historical
00:41:49science, as
00:41:52science, studies facts, as fragments of reality,
00:41:56distortion, historical falsifications, the dream of
00:41:59revenge, you know, this trauma
00:42:03of childhood, when, for example, someone was weak
00:42:07once, he dreamed his whole life that
00:42:10I would grow up and someone thinks that
00:42:13when a false aberration occurs,
00:42:17a false projection, for example, this
00:42:20is how I remember in the Literary Gazette, I think in 1990 I saw a caricature,
00:42:24when the same Teutonic
00:42:27knights are kneeling, either in the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, or in the Russian
00:42:31Duma, and asking for forgiveness for what they did not do, you understand,
00:42:34when we, but I am not talking about
00:42:37Belarusians, or anyone, creates an image...
00:44:40the priest was destroyed in a particularly cynical way during
00:44:43the occupation, what can be learned from
00:44:47Poles, they have on each, in each church, in
00:44:50which, well, when they moved from Volhynia, there are plaques hanging and
00:44:54all the victims of the same Banderite terror are listed, but
00:44:58we were very politically correct and kept silent about the fact that besides Khatyn, besides
00:45:02the burned Belarusian villages by Nazis, we
00:45:05can also compile a very mournful
00:45:08martyrology of destroyed farmsteads.
00:46:52What does September 17th teach us today, Denis
00:46:55Adinovich? It teaches us, first of all, that it is a holiday, indeed, from where we
00:46:59started, it is not anti-Polish, it is not a holiday
00:47:02of opposing ourselves to someone, it is our
00:47:05holiday, it is a holiday about peace, we are talking about
00:47:09the fact that today the unity of the people, which
00:47:12can be divided by different signs, that is,
00:47:15probable, as I say, improbable, yes, there white, red, whatever
00:47:19you want, if we are united, we truly.
00:47:51historical truth.
00:48:02This is actually very valuable, it shows that we treat ourselves
00:48:05consciously, our country consciously, its past,
00:48:09its present, we look into the future with hope for
00:48:12the best, not darkly, not despondently, it is
00:48:16love, peace of mind, peace, we wait and
00:48:18believe that it will happen, and we wait, well, not just like that, not suddenly. we
00:48:22understand that now we really need to fight for peace, which is what we are doing
00:48:26in fact, traditionally on the eve of national holidays, the president honors those
00:48:29who make Belarus better with their work and talent, there were also
00:48:33such words that very directly relate to the topic of our
00:48:37conversation, so it is definitely necessary to remember, please, time will pass,
00:48:41and we will truly,
00:48:43each in their own soul, in their own
00:48:45heart, appreciate the greatness
00:48:48of what happened among... last
00:48:52century, today we are a united
00:48:55nation, we, most importantly,
00:48:58today, here, in this
00:49:01hall, we are making a decision about the future of our
00:49:04country, I want to
00:49:07assure you that as president, whom you
00:49:11trust, and I see this from the latest data,
00:49:15I will do everything so that they never point
00:49:19a finger at us, and if they do...
00:50:22divided, because many of our unscrupulous
00:50:26elite representatives went to trade, as they say, their
00:50:29lands, in '39, and to this
00:50:32day our people demonstrate that you cannot be a national hero
00:50:36if you come in a foreign
00:50:37convoy,
00:50:40armed with a foreign force, and dream of
00:50:44humiliating your loved ones with
00:50:46foreign favors to try to command this people, so we are
00:50:50a country of heroes, not policemen, all...
00:51:22there will be no sovereignty, no peace, no tranquility,
00:51:26security, no positive future for our children,
00:51:29grandchildren and great-grandchildren, we must not forget this, thank you,
00:51:32thank you to our guests for this conversation about justice in history and
00:51:36unity in general, we are not saying goodbye to you, our viewers,
00:51:40in a couple of minutes from the studio Andrei Furtsev, and those who are not
00:51:44at peace with our history today, why do they want revenge, we'll talk about
00:51:47this and
00:51:48more.
00:51:53Andrei Fursov is with us, Andrei Ilyich, hello, as always, we are happy
00:51:57to have our new meeting, well,
00:51:59recently there were negotiations between representatives of the US
00:52:03administration, Putin, Zelensky. there was a phone call, then they talk
00:52:07about a possible three-party meeting now, possibly in
00:52:09the Emirates, there are many versions, everyone sees the end
00:52:13of the conflict in their own way, so in your opinion, Andrey Alevich, what is
00:52:17the main obstacle on the way to peace? Well,
00:52:20the main obstacle on the way to peace is the position
00:52:24of Europe, a certain part of the American
00:52:26establishment, who are not ready
00:52:29to satisfy Russia's main demand,
00:52:33to remove all those reasons. the initial, main ones that led
00:52:36to the conflict,
00:52:39because, for example, a truce and
00:52:42a reversal of the conflict does not solve this problem, especially
00:52:45since the Europeans have already said that in
00:52:48case of a truce, they will send troops
00:52:51to the territory of Ukraine, to which Lavrov has already
00:52:55explained that this will be and Putin explained that this will already
00:52:58be a war with Russia, that is,
00:53:01a truce does not give peace, real peace is needed.
00:53:35this will not happen again, real peace is needed with the elimination of the
00:53:38causes that led to it. This is the main obstacle
00:53:42on the way to peace, but on the other hand, for example,
00:53:45Europe does not need peace,
00:53:49by pumping, by pumping the atmosphere of such
00:53:53foreign policy tension, European
00:53:56pro-globalist, pro-Atlantic elites solve their problems,
00:53:59firstly, they allow
00:54:02capital to grow in the form of.
00:54:05and secondly, in this way they
00:54:08direct social
00:54:11tension outside their countries, despite the fact
00:54:14that this tension is of a completely
00:54:17enormous nature, we see this in different countries
00:54:21in different ways, from the latest, it is the fact
00:54:24that Scotland, Northern Ireland and even
00:54:27Wales are ready to hold a referendum on
00:54:30leaving Great Britain, this does not mean that they will win
00:54:34the... referendum, the last time Scotland could not,
00:54:38supporters of leaving Great Britain could not achieve
00:54:42the situation, but now the situation is different, now,
00:54:45firstly, er,
00:54:49Great Britain has left the European Union, Scotland, for example, does not
00:54:52want to leave the European Union and Northern Ireland wants to stay there, and
00:54:56secondly, they do not want to be hostages
00:54:59of two such political courses of the British
00:55:02leadership, this is the course for war.
00:55:05in Europe, the second is the course for replacing
00:55:08the local population
00:55:11with migrants, it has already come to the point that, in my opinion, he
00:55:14is a Pakistani, he holds some, so to speak,
00:55:17administrative and political position in Scotland, just the other day he,
00:55:21speaking officially, said that, what kind of business is this in
00:55:24Scotland, there are no governors, so
00:55:28to speak, and no white ones, all white, well, that is,
00:55:31it is absolutely clear that people in Scotland, Ireland
00:56:05are very good, Andreyvich, with such attitudes, this
00:56:09real peace, as you said, and I will add a long-term peace,
00:56:12is it in principle possible,
00:56:15well, theoretically everything is possible, but as comrade
00:56:19Stalin taught, there is a logic of intentions, and there is a logic
00:56:22of circumstances, and the logic of circumstances is stronger than the logic
00:56:25of intentions, I think that the final point in all
00:56:28this should be put by victory in
00:56:31the war, but again here I think...
00:58:17the situation from the thirties, look,
00:58:2010-15 years ago no one could
00:58:23have predicted that the leader of the Federal Republic
00:58:27of Germany would say the phrase: Hitler's
00:58:30regime is better than the AfD, because Hitler
00:58:33expressed the interests of the German people, that
00:58:36is, according to Merz, everything that Hitler did was in
00:58:39the interests of not capitalists, German, but the German
00:58:43people. 30% of Italians, according to polls.
00:58:47are ready to say to accept a fascist regime like
00:58:50Mussolini, that is, Europe is sharply
00:58:54right-wing, it is clear why European
00:58:58elites need such a right-wing
00:59:00turn of the population
00:59:04to prepare for a possible war, therefore the current
00:59:07situation, despite the fact that all historical analogies always have
00:59:10an external character, but the current situation really
00:59:13resembles the end of the thirties, I remind you that...
00:59:17that at the end of the thirties Roosevelt did everything to
00:59:21provoke a conflict in Europe, he needed this,
00:59:24firstly, in order to finally solve the problems of the United States,
00:59:28because the lauded new course New Deal
00:59:31of Roosevelt, it did not achieve, I cannot say that it failed, but it did not
00:59:35achieve its goals, the goals of pulling
00:59:39America out of the crisis of 1929-1932 were solved only
00:59:42by the Second World War. By the way, Roosevelt began to use the term
00:59:46world war six months before Hitler, and
00:59:49today it's like a repetition,
00:59:53the same Trump, he creates
00:59:56a situation, pumps weapons into Europe,
00:59:59the same thing was done, by the way, by American corporations, they
01:00:02pumped weapons into Europe, and Germany,
01:00:06by the way, and the Soviet Union, the United States participated in Soviet
01:00:09industrialization, and there was a military aspect too, that is, it also
01:00:13resembles the alarming end of the thirties.
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