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00:00:00about raids, the idea of the head of the household who opens
00:00:04their door is still
00:00:08being placed at the center, this is very different from the
00:00:11reality of households, of leaderships, uh, and the impossibility of
00:00:15thinking that there are children and adolescents in households who often today are the ones who
00:00:18care for and are almost heads of household due to the lack of
00:00:22responsible
00:00:23adults,
00:00:29very good.
00:00:34the girls empowered themselves,
00:00:37clashes between gangs, in one of that is, the neighborhood has, it doesn't have much to offer in terms of women's
00:00:41sports and they found an
00:00:44identification, they found the possibility of
00:00:48practicing sports and also rugby, which is a
00:00:52sport that
00:00:54Presence of civilian vessels in truly gives a place to
00:00:56the affected area. We have all people, I never played rugby, I'm simply a rugby
00:00:59fan. it gave me the possibility to train, to be able to be a
00:01:03coach and well, and the girls find a place of
00:01:06belonging and an identity,
00:01:08which for me is the most
00:01:12important thing for us, it's not whether we win more or fewer
00:01:14games, but rather the issue of identity and
00:01:18that they feel part of it, because at a time when
00:01:21sometimes the identities of the neighborhoods are
00:01:25crossed by negative
00:01:28connotations or we are in times of globalization where there are no
00:01:31local identities and the global surpasses
00:01:34them, in their neighborhood
00:01:38Mexico City, the cry of they found something that identifies them, their colors, their
00:01:41name, their already their routines, no,
00:01:45game, you have to meet at 7, 7:30 in
00:01:48Belloni and Tula, there
00:01:51to fill out a resume or they are, and then this emotional thing, I think it's a factor but it's everywhere
00:01:55and it's quite tough, it's loneliness, the loneliness of the kids, the loneliness of
00:01:59the children, the loneliness of families, that is, and that's
00:02:02where you have to do like, well, what's good and what's
00:02:06not, because the lonelier the person is,
00:02:10the more complicated it is. I think loneliness,
00:02:15I mean, I don't know, for a girl to disappear and for the girl to
00:02:20something about understand that no one has to go out to look for her, that no, that that no, no one
00:02:24should look for me, why are they looking for me? It is because it is
00:02:28messed up, because someone who understands that, or that this settling of
00:02:32scores is someone's son, someone's
00:02:34effective publicist, certainly, that's what brother, and the same with people who are,
00:02:37that is, nothing, it's difficult to be able to
00:02:40search, that there's nothing clear,
00:02:43that is,
00:02:46it's that, I think the point of what you were saying, the neuralgic point of
00:02:49all is to attend to the family, give
00:02:53tools to the family, promote workshops for
00:02:56families, instruct them, give them tools for the...
00:03:00present:
00:03:06the state mostly deals with the
00:03:11permission or with some poor, it mostly reaches the most vulnerable, those whom the current
00:03:15model mostly condemns to not having projects and to
00:03:18reproduce logics of illegal money acquisition, because
00:03:22the problem of money continues to be the fundamental problem that
00:03:26organizes the daily outlook of...
00:03:30those who don't have this, especially in a world where structures like school, like
00:03:34Bolsonaro three weeks before the square, are missing, or where these
00:03:37structures also contain violence and become
00:03:40insecure due to these
00:03:43dynamics, we must remember that this
00:03:46control is a very poor control, punitive
00:03:50control, and that it is directed, above all, at different types
00:03:54of crimes, punishing the crimes of the poorest and, to
00:03:57a lesser extent, the crimes of the richest. That is what is called
00:04:01the selectivity of the penal system and which
00:04:05precisely forms part of the things that we have to address
00:04:09and democratize.
00:04:11The problem is multidimensional, because when
00:04:13enable them to return to we talk about having problems in the neighborhood, we talk about having problems with
00:04:17work, if our young people don't have work, don't have good
00:04:20education, think that our young people are
00:04:23in prison, many of them, and of those
00:04:27young people we have. almost all of
00:04:30them are illiterate due to disuse or because
00:04:34you know the story, no, I work in they didn't finish school and what does an
00:04:37illiterate young person expect at 20
00:04:39go to school and not have to hide under years old when they have no alternatives,
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00:06:45"sometimes you don't worry that they might make a mistake with a person,
00:06:49have you discussed that, do you talk about it as
00:06:51a group, that who is the
00:06:55confusion, ours towards the clear, clear,
00:06:58someone who might live on the street, but suddenly doesn't commit crimes, let's say, do
00:07:02you talk about that, do you discuss it among yourselves? Yes, because there have been
00:07:05specific cases,
00:07:09live on the street, is a car caretaker who is part of the..."
00:07:12also, but it's
00:07:16unfortunately, we cannot reach the point
00:07:19of allowing ourselves, how can I say, compassion,
00:07:23without
00:07:27questioning that that person can
00:07:28harm us, that distrust we feel
00:07:32is provided by all the events that happen
00:07:35daily.
00:07:43We can talk about security, yes, if my cell phone is stolen, but we can talk about road
00:07:47safety, we can talk about all the
00:07:50digital security today, no, about everything that happens, that they can
00:07:54hack an account, access a lot of information, and
00:07:58that's not something that happens here in Belloni, no, that
00:08:02in reality the concept of security is very broad, we
00:08:05have to see in what, uh,
00:08:08how we define it, that is, I can assure you in the neighborhood: that I feel
00:08:11puedo asegurar: que yo me siento
00:08:13safe,
00:08:17this, well, I live in a corner here, uh, I don't live in
00:08:19Marcón or in Palacio Xauri, but I have all my family in what is
00:08:22Marconi, I live in Flor de Maroñas, uh, I was born
00:08:26there, uh, my family is also from
00:08:29Maroñas, I don't know if it happens to you
00:08:33when you say where you live, it generates things
00:08:35in others, no, what, what happens with
00:08:38that, uh, personally it generates
00:08:43a certain annoyance for me, from the fact that ambulances don't enter, for
00:08:46example, where
00:08:49neither does
00:08:53a cable TV provider want to enter with fiber optics because
00:08:57they consider it a red zone and
00:09:01that brings a problem, it's like we feel
00:09:04forgotten also by society, that
00:09:07we are not part of society, I imagine
00:09:10your neighborhood must experience the same thing, right? Yes,
00:09:14yes, it happens quite a lot, Flor de Maroñas is very diverse, right? And
00:09:18diverse also in its days, in its moments and
00:09:22in situations, so it's
00:09:24uh, it's not like denying it, but it happens
00:09:28and when it happens uh, it generates things and
00:09:31one of the things it also generates is that it doesn't allow all the other
00:09:34things that happen in the neighborhood to be visible, which
00:09:38also promote a lot of things and this doesn't
00:09:41stigmatize. for moments that the neighborhood may be going through,
00:09:45uh, an entire neighborhood,
00:10:01No, in August of this year, the newspaper El Observador published a survey
00:10:05conducted with academics from the Faculty of Social Sciences of the
00:10:08University of the Republic, which reveals the increase in the feeling of
00:10:12insecurity in neighborhoods where lethal violence is more
00:10:15frequent. In Colón, where
00:10:18Esther lives, 30% of residents said they
00:10:22feel safe in Piedras Blancas where they train. In Las
00:10:25Águilas, 29%. In Las
00:10:28Acacias, where Elba lives and works, only
00:10:3115% feel safe. In
00:10:33Itusaingo, where we interviewed Winston and Tania, it's
00:10:3724% who feel safe, but in
00:10:41Flor de Maroñas, the neighborhood where Tania lives, only
00:10:449% have that
00:10:46feeling.
00:10:50When you put flesh to that, what you also see are not lives
00:10:54crossed that. make those constructions a little noisy, no, when
00:10:57we talk, for example, about settling scores or
00:11:02the interviews, for example, Tania said, I
00:11:06understand it, I see it, but I also know those kids since they were little
00:11:09and I see the fracture in a house, no, that beyond
00:11:13the fact that there was a certain trajectory,
00:11:16there is also a whole
00:11:19thing that is generated from those episodes, no, and that leaves
00:11:23scars that... you have to go back, no, there
00:11:27is also a difficulty to
00:11:29visualize investing or working
00:11:33in those areas, no, yes, it is
00:11:37a bit the magnitude of the problem, no, the depth of the
00:11:40problem of those damaged, wounded,
00:11:44victimized lives, those lives that oscillate precisely between
00:11:48legal life and illegal life, no, those
00:11:52boundaries that blur when one focuses on the.
00:11:55magnifies the magnifying glass, this, the panorama is much more complicated,
00:11:59that's where the public policy design problems come in, policy
00:12:03in general is designed more from a distance, from
00:12:06afar and from a lack of
00:12:09phenomenological knowledge of the problem, so there
00:12:13it's not just a matter of resources, I understand that it's a matter of resources, but it seems to me that it's more
00:12:17about design of rationality,
00:12:20the feeling I get from this is an interesting topic to study in
00:12:24depth is that... there has really been an increase recently in
00:12:27terms of investment in security in all its components, this, without
00:12:31achieving absolutely anything, because we haven't reduced either the
00:12:35crime rates or the most serious crimes, this, the
00:12:38prison population has increased, the problems of
00:12:42recidivism too, so we have
00:12:45the rationality of that spending, this, which is always considered
00:12:49urgent and necessary, whose impact needs to be put into
00:12:52discussion.
00:12:55Well, Bukele is a very
00:12:59best characterizes him, that has been, uh, it was his family
00:13:02business, his foray into politics comes from him managing
00:13:06the, uh, uh, the advertisements for the left-wing party, the
00:13:09FMLN, from that he becomes mayor of a fairly
00:13:13small town called Nucho Herland, from there he propels himself to the
00:13:16mayoralty of San Salvador which has been the most traditional platform for presidents,
00:13:20we have to see where we come from in this country, from a country
00:13:24where the... territorial control was not held by the state,
00:13:27it was held by gangs in
00:13:30which to enter certain territories you had to enter with
00:13:36type of contact within communities in which
00:13:39parents did not see their children who lived passages away
00:13:43and had to leave their neighborhoods to see their families, that is
00:13:47El Salvador. People see uh, the videos of the
00:13:50secot, the half-naked gang members, uh, with their
00:13:54hair... marching to the sound of the
00:13:57prison guards, what people don't see is that the secot is
00:14:01simply one of the prisons in
00:14:04El Salvador and that most arrested under the state of exception don't
00:14:08go to the secot but go to other prisons like Isalco, like Mariona,
00:14:12where according to testimony from people who have left prison who we have interviewed
00:14:16in El Faro, which has also been documented by organizations like Human
00:14:19Rights Watch that talk about systematic acts of
00:14:23torture, talk about... severe conditions in prisons, talk about
00:14:26conditions that do not facilitate
00:14:30reinsertion, which is, according to Salvadoran law, the purpose of prisons,
00:14:33not to torture people, but to
00:14:38reinsert themselves into society after paying their sentence. What
00:14:42happens in El Salvador looks more like revenge than justice,
00:14:46but since again this country has been so deprived of
00:14:49justice, this country was a country in which one in
00:14:53ten homicides was judged and the conviction rate was very low compared
00:14:57to the enormous violence that existed, where people in communities were
00:15:00under the yoke of gangs of criminal organizations, who
00:15:04when they see the police act in these ways against other people,
00:15:08it gives them a sense of vindication that is normal and that is, I think,
00:15:12comprehensible up to a certain point. The problem is that when
00:15:15we applaud the violation of other people's
00:15:18rights, that ends up being spitting into the wind,
00:15:22it ends up being something that will affect us. And the people who applaud
00:15:26the state of exception, which are many, applaud it until it affects a
00:15:30close
00:15:30relative.
00:15:34I don't think it's a feasible solution.
00:15:39this, let's say, balancing between repression and prevention, so to
00:15:43speak, that is, somehow reducing the repressive apparatus of the
00:15:46state, I think it's simply not a viable option. Those who live
00:15:50in neighborhoods like these where violence runs rampant, know it. That
00:15:54is, I cannot withdraw the state from that
00:15:57part, I have to make the other grow, and that's why I spoke at the beginning about
00:16:01the development model, because it seems to me that there is no
00:16:04viable solution that does not involve an economic plan where... it grows much more than it
00:16:08is growing now and that allows the state to expand in this
00:16:12leg that is still in its infancy, that is,
00:16:15of course I have to change the matrix of the penitentiary system and that in the long term
00:16:19implies having many fewer people in prison, it's true, but if
00:16:22I take the people I have in prison out of the
00:16:25numbers, crime increases, it's like that, it's proven in many
00:16:29parts of Uruguay's recent history, even in this
00:16:31government, there are people that I can take out of the penitentiary system and
00:16:35even if I give them an alternative measure, they will continue to recidivate,
00:16:39they will continue to commit crimes, so
00:16:42unfortunately this part, I say unfortunately because as I said before I would like to be able to
00:16:46invest in other areas, but unfortunately the problem we have is
00:16:49this, for many decades, perhaps centuries, a
00:16:53culture was created that today we simply cannot
00:16:57eradicate by changing policies, it's there, so I
00:17:00have to keep the repressive part strong too, the investigative part, the
00:17:04deterrent leg, the kind of violence there is today didn't exist
00:17:07before, the amount of negative things that
00:17:10happen, it's very
00:17:12increased and it's as
00:17:16she said,
00:17:18you have to live here to tell it, no, they stigmatize
00:17:21the neighborhood so much that when you, uh,
00:17:25need, uh,
00:17:29whatever, you have to give another address from another place, from a relative's house
00:17:33because if you say I'm from Palacio de Shauri, I'm from Flores de Maroña,
00:17:37I'm from Coni or I'm from Piedras Blancas, they don't look at you with
00:17:41good eyes anymore, you understand? They feel that in the places where they live or where
00:17:45they circulate, things have started to happen on the street
00:17:48during the day that didn't before, that didn't
00:17:51happen before, there's that, how much of it is construction or how much
00:17:55they actually see it, feel it?
00:17:59Yes, for example, personally, yes, of course there are things
00:18:02that are new modalities, you understand, how
00:18:06people are killed on the street. Of course I see it, I see
00:18:09that it happens, not that I see it, I see that it happens, I see
00:18:13that it's complicated, I see that
00:18:16it generates morbid curiosity in youth,
00:18:19certain violence generates morbid curiosity, because it has
00:18:23even been on social media, kids with
00:18:26guns, uh, promoting
00:18:29guns and they want, it happens to me,
00:18:33this happens to me, we have a Bible school
00:18:37where... we work with children from critical contexts, children from
00:18:40families, suddenly they grab a stick, they grab, the
00:18:44other day I had a paint gun outside my house
00:18:46and it looked like a weapon, so
00:18:50one of the children grabbed that and told me, "Wow, what a nine I have!"
00:18:53So that's what generates that morbid curiosity, it generates that it's
00:18:56not good, it's not good, all that is generated in the environment we
00:19:00are in, to know what a nine is at that age,
00:19:03they know, they know because of that, so
00:19:06that's what we try to do, our message is always to
00:19:10make the other person aware, tell them, "No, look, that's not the
00:19:13way, the way is here, leave that
00:19:16there, that won't help you." So always the awareness, I don't know if
00:19:20that happens in your house, in your neighborhood, yes,
00:19:23it happens, uh, like everyone else and, I mean, I circulate through several
00:19:27spaces and you feel that you've had to design strategies
00:19:31to protect yourself,
00:19:34that you've changed ways, places where you circulate daily, yes,
00:19:38uh, yes, the way I get to the neighborhood at night, no, I study,
00:19:41I get to the neighborhood at night, how we also warn each other, if
00:19:45there's someone, a teammate that we're going together, so being able to like,
00:19:49no, and I also see it in the
00:19:52morning when I go to work, the family taking the kids to the bus
00:19:55stop, no, like in those things and
00:19:59also in
00:20:01in
00:20:03in the in the knowing that there are kids from the
00:20:07bar who have died in clashes, that is,
00:20:12the more social part, uh, I worked for a long time,
00:20:15no, so nothing, families that are left
00:20:18there, quite broken
00:20:21and well, and that the girls, well, that
00:20:25they would be in that, their whole life, like,
00:20:29no, it impacts, in macro terms there is a
00:20:32correspondence between on the one hand the places of
00:20:36crime concentration, and the most negative and most
00:20:39critical perceptions in terms of affectation, one could think that
00:20:42there is a correlation there, now when one analyzes from
00:20:46another place, not only from a public opinion poll, but working in the
00:20:49territories, lending an ear, no, we have had to
00:20:53work for several years in in ethnographies in Marcón and Casa
00:20:57Valle, uh, the punitive demands there are much
00:21:00more diminished, precisely because of what you said, there is a
00:21:03social conviction that I don't know if it's too
00:21:07articulated that precisely punitive devices do not
00:21:10work, they break, they undo, they don't give
00:21:14guarantees, they don't give security,
00:21:16uh, they are not necessarily, that is, they have the...
00:21:20the populations in those places have a rather ambiguous relationship with the punitive
00:21:23apparatus, with prison and with the police, on the one hand yes,
00:21:27in the sense that I have a problem and I have an urgency, but on the other hand
00:21:30be careful because sometimes the cure is worse than the disease,
00:21:34so there is something to explore there around the
00:21:37feelings of punitiveness, the social demands, as Nilia
00:21:41very well said, in terms of community listening, listening to the demand
00:21:44from another place that is enormously
00:21:48challenging to think of some of those keys and I think that
00:21:52looking from there relativizes a lot
00:21:55the demand for punitive power, I am absolutely convinced that part
00:21:59of the problem is punitive power, that is, it generates in itself a
00:22:02logic, because it is said that well, certain balances must be maintained, that something cannot
00:22:06be undone, this, uh, I think the
00:22:09challenge is in the restructuring of punitive power itself as part
00:22:12of the
00:22:14problem,
00:22:18we expect technicians,
00:22:22uh, neighbors and residents,
00:22:26educators, uh, to work accompanying
00:22:30the trajectories of girls, boys and adolescents, young people,
00:22:33families and the community, with what, in the
00:22:36infrastructures we already have, we have schools that after 5 p.m. are empty, for
00:22:40example, the caif, the caif, after 5 p.m. is
00:22:44empty, we have the sacude, we have the Luis Acuesta,
00:22:47we have the Sedel and in all territories we have
00:22:51everything, so there's no need to put money for infrastructure, what needs to be
00:22:54put is money that accompanies the trajectories and you know why
00:22:58it accompanies the trajectories, because there are a lot of places like school, teachers often
00:23:02know that a child is going to
00:23:06fall, because they know the family, because it's the third brother, the fourth
00:23:09brother, and who do the teachers turn to, they have no one
00:23:12or in the sacude, it is known that a child is
00:23:15having problems and we need to accompany all these
00:23:19children, all these children so that they don't fall, so as not to have
00:23:22problems and then say, well, look, the gang came in, but the policies to
00:23:26change the situations in the neighborhoods, to change the situation
00:23:30of brutal violence we are experiencing,
00:23:33needs to have a budget. There are measures
00:23:36that are short-term, there are measures that are long-term, the problem is
00:23:40that they all compete for resources, evidently,
00:23:43no. This square we are in today, this beautiful square,
00:23:46this is very well built. Now, if
00:23:50you don't build a square like this elsewhere, crime won't go down.
00:23:54That doesn't mean it's bad, it's positive to have that square and surely in
00:23:57the long term, if it's accompanied by other measures, if it's used by the
00:24:01community, it will add up. But you always have to try
00:24:04to make it add up, it's not that it will somehow lower
00:24:07crime. The control measures taken by the Ministry of the Interior
00:24:11do have that capacity temporarily, but they have the
00:24:14capacity to lower crime and protect lives that would otherwise be
00:24:17lost. So, this, especially I
00:24:20learned it in my role in the Ministry of the Interior, I cannot
00:24:24stop taking those measures even though I am aware that I am taking
00:24:28resources from measures that in the long term would be more important for
00:24:31a sustainable solution, no.
00:24:34I have no doubt today that we need
00:24:38thousands more police officers, but that pains me, I would like to be able to use
00:24:42those resources to hire teachers, to hire
00:24:45scientists, to take advantage of other types of policies
00:24:49that I know are more important in the long term for the joint
00:24:52development of the country. but there are lives at
00:24:55stake, right? And I also have to prioritize that, that people
00:24:59see that not everything is bad, although there are things
00:25:02that we like to live and that we are close
00:25:05to that, we also have to show the
00:25:08world, Uruguay, Montevideo, whoever, that there are
00:25:12very good ventures, very good things that are done at a
00:25:16community level, security for me is being able to walk through my neighborhood, getting off the bus.
00:25:20not having to run in the middle of the street, hiding what I carry inside my socks,
00:25:23my sneakers and some other things, security is that children can
00:25:29tables when they hear a loud noise, security is accompanying
00:25:33those mothers who raise three or four children and there is no one to
00:25:36accompany them and the eldest child has to leave school, high
00:25:39school to take care of the younger children so that mom can
00:25:42work, that is security, security is having
00:25:46in the middle of our territory
00:25:50the polyclinic, the CAIF, the school, that is, the state
00:25:54present, so that there is security in the territories, we need the
00:25:58state present, but present,
00:26:00I mean not inside.
00:26:03in one place, all the services tucked away, no, in the
00:26:06middle of the territory, building community
00:26:09with us, because otherwise no one
00:26:12will be saved.
00:26:17In recent years, security has become a
00:26:20political demand of very high complexity that feeds a whole
00:26:24gear of dispute. Today
00:26:27we live in a country considered insecure for
00:26:3060% of the population, who, however, often
00:26:34feel safe in the neighborhood where they live.
00:26:38Insecurity is a sensation that mixes objective
00:26:41realities and perceptions. That's why
00:26:44it's electoral booty and fertile ground for the discourse
00:26:48of politicians from all parties. Those same
00:26:52politicians who, until now, have preferred
00:26:55to blame each other, instead of sitting down to look for paths and
00:26:59solutions beyond criminalization. Vive our national holidays, this
00:27:36September 15th, from the Zócalo of
00:27:40independence,
00:27:42long live
00:27:52democracy, long live,
00:27:55long live
00:27:57Mexico,
00:28:00special coverage by public media. starting at 8 at night,
00:28:04united by the
00:28:05audiences,
00:28:14welcome to a new segment on channel 14, this is the most
00:28:17relevant information of this Monday, September 14th, the Morelos State Prosecutor's Office
00:28:21is investigating the alleged femicide of Claudia
00:28:25Tacoronte Aguilera, a 21-year-old Spanish
00:28:28student, the young woman from the University of
00:28:31Granada, was participating in an exchange program at the
00:28:34Autonomous University of the State of Morelos. In this regard, President
00:28:38Claudia Sheinbaum reported that the
00:28:41Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Security
00:28:44Cabinet are already in contact with the Spanish
00:28:47embassy.
00:28:49Mexico should not be used as a promotional topic for the upcoming
00:28:53US elections, as President Claudia
00:28:57Sheinbaum expressed, assuring that there is collaboration with the US
00:29:00government, but not subordination. She explained that there are at
00:29:04least 40 million compatriots living in that
00:29:07country, a situation that unites both countries, but the relationship between
00:29:11them should not influence the elections.
00:29:14Supporters of Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da
00:29:17Silva marched in the streets of several cities to
00:29:21show their support for his reelection. Some of the
00:29:24people protested against his rival Flavio Bolsonaro,
00:29:27accused of alleged acts of corruption. Polls
00:29:31show a technical tie between Lula da Silva and Flavio
00:29:36the first round of the presidential election. That's
00:29:39all for today's most important news, remember that we await
00:29:43you with this and more information at 6 p.m.
00:29:47on Informativo 14.