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00:00:53Nostalgia had erased bad memories and
00:00:56magnified good ones, no one is safe from its
00:01:00ravages, writes Gabriel García Márquez. But
00:01:03what is nostalgia really?
00:01:06In the beginning, it was considered a deadly disease. In
00:01:091688, Johannes Hoffer discovered it by observing Swiss soldiers
00:01:13who lived abroad and presented
00:01:16symptoms such as fatigue, insomnia, palpitations, high
00:01:21feel, why? What do you like about fevers. The cause was not physical, but a longing for
00:01:25their homeland. Thus, he coined the term
00:01:28nostalgia. Nostos which means to return
00:01:32home, and algos, pain.
00:01:36a memory Nostalgia is the longing for the past that mixes joy and
00:01:40sadness.
00:01:46At first it was thought that it only happened to Swiss people, they said that the
00:01:50country was so beautiful that anyone who left
00:01:53fell ill. The fear was such that military
00:01:57commanders prohibited traditional Swiss songs to not
00:02:00awaken
00:02:01nostalgia.
00:02:04Have you ever heard a song, felt
00:02:07an aroma, a taste, heard a sound, a smell that
00:02:11reminds you of something, then your brain begins to feel,
00:02:14reflect, think, that is
00:02:17nostalgia. In the 20th century, psychology redefined it, it is no longer
00:02:21an illness, but a mechanism that connects us with our
00:02:24identity. You can feel nostalgia for love,
00:02:28for your childhood, for your friends, for your children, many
00:02:32times it connects with our first times, the first time you
00:02:35fell in love, watched a soccer game or became
00:02:39a mom.
00:02:45is, if you In this process, the brain activates the hippocampus that helps us to locate
00:02:49memories in a time and place, the amygdala that gives
00:02:52it emotional charge and the frontal cortex that
00:02:55tries to order all this and give it meaning, also
00:02:59dopamine and serotonin, it can
00:03:03be sweet and painful at the same time, it
00:03:06connects us with places and people who loved us, but at
00:03:11a person and you could talk to the same time it reminds us that that time no longer exists
00:03:14not in the same
00:03:16way.
00:03:20It's not simply missing the
00:03:22new generations can grow in past, it's the brain trying to
00:03:24reconstruct who we are. Being such a
00:03:28powerful emotion, politics has learned to use it as a
00:03:32weapon to win votes from Donald Trump with his Make
00:03:35America great again
00:03:37years ago I wasted a lot of time in appealing to the industry of the past, passing through
00:03:40Brexit and its slogan Take back
00:03:43Control. Nostalgia moves nations, it
00:03:47roots us, it confronts us, it
00:03:49shapes us. It is dangerous if we remain
00:03:52longing, but here among us. What is
00:03:55nostalgia for you? What better place to
00:03:58talk about nostalgia? than the Vasconcelos library, you have
00:04:02tea with me and
00:04:04tell me.
00:04:09Tell me who you are, eh, I'm Perla,
00:04:13I, who am I, I do journalism
00:04:16things, mainly, eh, I don't know, my hobbies
00:04:20are classic, writing as a
00:04:23journalist, eh, drawing, we came here to draw, that's how
00:04:27we met here, here among us.
00:04:31If you could go back to a specific day of your life for
00:04:34only 5 minutes, which one would you go back to and why? I don't know, maybe I'm not
00:04:38the most nostalgic person for this, but something like going back to
00:04:41change something or something like that, I don't feel that
00:04:45nostalgia goes that way for me, uh-huh, what is
00:04:48nostalgia for you then? Mmm.
00:04:52It's like here among us, I
00:04:56think, I think for me eh it has
00:04:59a a a somewhat negative side that people
00:05:02sometimes give it, that it always implies some
00:05:06kind of sadness, of
00:05:08nostalgia, but I also understand that it works, right? I think...
00:05:12I am a person who looks a lot to the future, so maybe it would be
00:05:15like
00:05:18remembering things and appreciating them
00:05:21to be able to appreciate much better what is coming, you know, like the thing about if you were
00:05:2590 years old and you felt super bad and
00:05:28sad and had ailments and everything, what would you do if suddenly today
00:05:32you wake up at 20 years old, right? Like I see it that
00:05:35way, I think
00:05:37that
00:05:40I would try to do things perhaps as I am doing them now, but
00:05:43remember that more often and I don't know, have fewer fears, do
00:05:47more things, make more mistakes too, that was something I learned in my last 3 years of
00:05:51life, I think making more mistakes is very
00:05:53important, when was the last time you felt nostalgic? Maybe
00:05:57these weeks have been a bit nostalgic because my brother
00:06:00just moved to Mexico City, eh
00:06:04back, and it had been years since we lived together like that, so
00:06:08it's like remembering precisely the things we
00:06:12have lived. What kind of people we have become these years that we lived
00:06:15separately, how we lived in other states, it's like that's
00:06:19a bit of remembering to also
00:06:22see in the reflection the person I have become and remember the person I was when I was younger
00:06:26through my brother's eyes, nostalgia has
00:06:29like a part of recognizing what
00:06:33you were before, yes, yes, I think
00:06:37it has a very big component of
00:06:40reflection, very big of being
00:06:43thinking because this thing that
00:06:49is never what really happened but rather
00:06:52the last time you remembered the thing, so it changes and changes and changes every
00:06:56so often, so as the years go by, there are too many filters you put
00:06:59on it, another thing would be
00:07:02also for me nostalgia is remembering things
00:07:05and on the one hand, thanking myself
00:07:08for the person I was to get through certain things. or just
00:07:13thinking I wouldn't do things that way, but it's good that I
00:07:16learned it at that moment, you can do many things with
00:07:20nostalgia, you can do many things when you remember things,
00:07:24um I don't know, maybe
00:07:27it's thinking of a memory in a positive way,
00:07:31sometimes, sometimes in a negative way, sometimes scolding yourself, sometimes
00:07:34thanking yourself, I don't know,
00:07:38it's cool to be able to travel in time, that
00:07:40way, maybe.
00:07:42That's why there are people who are addicted to nostalgia, not all the time
00:07:45traveling, remembering, I also think
00:07:48that addiction to nostalgia, I think it can also
00:07:51be not taking charge of your life at this
00:07:54moment, that
00:07:57spend all your time remembering,
00:08:01I don't know, being too nostalgic is
00:08:04a way of not taking charge of the present and then time passes
00:08:08and time will pass anyway, so time passes again.
00:08:12and things remain the same, they didn't change as
00:08:16you wanted because you wasted a lot of time in nostalgia, so nostalgia can
00:08:20also hurt us, yes, yes, definitely, you can't
00:08:23go back to the past with with feelings
00:08:27of punishing yourself because what are you doing to the person you are now, right?
00:08:30You also have to thank the person you were at that
00:08:33moment, well, the way it helps you to still
00:08:37be here. What have you learned from
00:08:39nostalgia? That it is a good tool.
00:08:43Uh-huh, it's a good exercise,
00:08:46I think that at these because I think many
00:08:50nostalgia and I think now I developed a
00:08:53fear of nostalgia, of sadness, like I'm not going to waste any more
00:08:57time wallowing in my
00:09:00own misery, eh, maybe at this point I have
00:09:04to be a little less afraid to be nostalgic again, to be
00:09:08sad again, tell me how you went from this place of
00:09:12feeling a lot of nostalgia, as you say, having
00:09:16wasted time in nostalgia, to now
00:09:18saying no, no more, we have to be nostalgic, I have moved in my life about
00:09:2225 times, I have changed schools about 20 times,
00:09:25cities, houses, everything, I think
00:09:29that around the 18th time I said, I said what if
00:09:33I better live this new move and this new city in a
00:09:37different way, remember the previous one, because it was always, I don't know,
00:09:40the first moves were like I miss the previous one and then I moved on to the
00:09:44next one and now I missed the previous one but
00:09:48I didn't enjoy it, so
00:09:50eh I spent a lot of time in that nostalgia that I
00:09:54was afraid of change
00:09:56and then it was just like you know what I can
00:09:58appreciate it
00:10:01but I can make richer memories of this and enjoy it even
00:10:04while missing the previous one, you know, like allowing many feelings to live at the
00:10:08same time in you, it's better than just being nostalgic all the time.
00:10:12If you could talk to nostalgia, if it were here
00:10:15among us, what would you like to ask it or
00:10:19tell it? Ah, I
00:10:22would like to
00:10:25know if there's a why of why you exist
00:10:29or why when I feel a strong nostalgia
00:10:33like this why am I feeling this
00:10:36what
00:10:39is your purpose, what are you trying to tell me, is it about me
00:10:43is it about something external like
00:10:46yes a why but thank you very much for sharing this cup
00:10:50of tea with me eh I learned from you today that
00:10:53nostalgia is the memory of
00:10:55what we were, it's true, thank you very much
00:10:59Aranza,
00:11:03thank you, from Mexico, this
00:11:07is where we come from, from the corn that has fed us our whole
00:11:10lives, from the color we have on our skin,
00:11:14from the noise and the party, because one can
00:11:17go anywhere, but here is what one
00:11:20is, here are the laughs, the smell of
00:11:24comal, and our place at the table, because
00:11:27being Mexican, being Mexican is an
00:11:31honor, government of
00:11:34Mexico, that summer I only did two
00:11:36things, lying in the sun on the hood of an abandoned Porsche in front of
00:11:40my house and watching the clouds, my family was a
00:11:43mess, the city was meaningless and the
00:11:46world from one second to the next was going to
00:11:49explode, things were not very firm and
00:11:53September 19th arrived,
00:12:05the singularity of a man accompanies him on the path to
00:12:09find his own self, this is not a place for
00:12:12you, what you are looking for is out there, what
00:12:16happened, I told him not to touch me, if what you want
00:12:20to do is paint, do it,
00:12:23you know you can count on our support.
00:12:26Cinema
00:12:2814 presents. Goitia, a god to himself. Saturday,
00:12:3211:40
00:12:33PM.
00:12:41Hello, thanks for having this cup of tea with me. Good
00:12:44afternoon. Eh, tell me who you are, what do you do?
00:12:48I am, well, my name is Abraham Linares, eh, I am from the
00:12:51State of Mexico, from the municipality of Tecámac. I am
00:12:5520 years old, I am a student at the National
00:12:58Polytechnic Institute, I study electronic communication
00:13:02at esime Zacatenco. Abraham, well,
00:13:05nice to meet you, thanks for being here, tell me if
00:13:08you could go back to a specific day or moment in your life,
00:13:12which one
00:13:13would it be?
00:13:18Well, I think there are
00:13:21many, all of them are with my family, yes. No more
00:13:25specific, eh, when I was
00:13:2710 I used to go out a lot with my family to
00:13:31eat barbacoa, something very simple, but
00:13:34that to this day is something that is very marked in me, my
00:13:38parents had a hard time taking us out to eat,
00:13:40so the fact of being able
00:13:43to do it on a weekend, well
00:13:46right now at least it means a lot to me because I know the effort
00:13:50that entailed, well you could say oh it's a simple
00:13:54meal or what is it? it's very cheap seeing the effort my
00:13:58parents made to try to keep our outings from being so
00:14:01limited makes it special,
00:14:04it moves you and you feel
00:14:07nostalgic? Yes, ah
00:14:11longing, yes, a little, the truth is that
00:14:14it's something that even gives you a
00:14:17feeling, you can feel it here, a
00:14:20lump in your throat, as they say, yes, a little
00:14:24and well it's beautiful, also
00:14:27eh, I think it's a little sad that
00:14:31well, when you're younger you don't realize the things
00:14:34people or your family do for you, how
00:14:38would you define nostalgia as sadness,
00:14:41but
00:14:45at least I always that I feel
00:14:48nostalgia it is beautiful, it's like a
00:14:51sadness that you miss having again.
00:14:55that you want to have again, that
00:14:59you can no longer obtain, but but that is always
00:15:02marked there, that always even eh,
00:15:05well at least for me whenever I feel nostalgic I get
00:15:09smells, what smell do you get, for example,
00:15:12mmm, well besides the
00:15:14barbacoa, on the way, well, the smell of
00:15:18wet earth, whenever we went out near
00:15:21where I live, eh,
00:15:24there are... lands so well whenever we went out it was humid
00:15:28in the morning, you're very nostalgic, right? I
00:15:31like to feel
00:15:34um I feel that
00:15:39at least now these last few years I've been appreciating
00:15:42more the past moments I lived or
00:15:46that I've been living throughout these few
00:15:49years, I like to remember even eh well
00:15:53making myself feel nostalgic, saying oh I remember this day eh how
00:15:57beautiful it was to remember especially the smells or even the
00:16:00colors and I think besides
00:16:04that I always appreciate that we have technology.
00:16:07photos with which I can take them and
00:16:10remember those moments much better, what photo would you
00:16:14never delete? Ah, of my family, of my
00:16:18family, never, you have a specific one, yes, of my
00:16:21mom, many times eh, my mom is a person who is
00:16:24a homemaker, she is a stay-at-home mom, so
00:16:28I rarely see her well
00:16:31dressed, I mean with
00:16:33a dress, with something that she...
00:16:37that makes her feel not only beautiful but also
00:16:41reminds her of how she used to dress before, eh when she was
00:16:45younger, so I think the photos I have of her
00:16:48eh posing in her
00:16:52outfit, I think those are photos I would never delete, mm, hey Abraham, you just
00:16:55told me I like to
00:16:59nostalgia? Mmm, well,
00:17:02besides making you remember that you can relive
00:17:06that moment.
00:17:08That
00:17:10you can perhaps not feel
00:17:14um the same thoughts,
00:17:18but I think you can feel it in your heart, there are even feelings
00:17:21that well even make you nervous or
00:17:25make you tremble, it has happened to me that I think of something and
00:17:29I even get goosebumps or start
00:17:32trembling because of my skin, so I think
00:17:35that's it...
00:17:38that then it brings you back a little bit of what you felt, of who
00:17:41you were, I think not a little but
00:17:44a lot because
00:17:48nostalgia also comes from very
00:17:51vivid memories, I think nobody feels nostalgic about something that
00:17:55they didn't like or that well
00:17:58wasn't important to that person, hey, can nostalgia
00:18:02harm us? Yes, especially
00:18:05well the... maintaining
00:18:08that those memories were for
00:18:11a reason and that they should remain as what they are, nostalgia,
00:18:14nostalgia and memories,
00:18:17yes, nostalgia of memories, I think it is
00:18:20dangerous in that sense that that people are
00:18:24very nostalgic
00:18:27to the point that they only force themselves to remember
00:18:31bad things to have a pretext to harm themselves
00:18:35or things like that, but...
00:18:39well, I think we always have to find the beautiful side,
00:18:43even in bad things, if nostalgia were
00:18:48her, what would you say to her or
00:18:50ask her?
00:18:56Good question, perhaps the meaning it
00:18:59has for itself, that it can
00:19:02describe itself, that it can tell me I
00:19:06as... religion eh I cause this for this
00:19:10or I make you have this for this,
00:19:13for good, for bad, that it can
00:19:16describe itself as a person, that it explains itself, why it
00:19:20explains itself, why, why it causes that, why with my
00:19:23ex, Abraham, well thank you very much for
00:19:26sharing this tea with me, thank you very much for for the
00:19:30conversation and for teaching us that nostalgia
00:19:33comes from important memories, otherwise it wouldn't
00:19:36exist. Thanks Abraham, thanks to
00:19:39you,
00:19:47thanks for agreeing to have this cup of tea with me, I
00:19:51love it, how are you, tell me, who are you, what
00:19:54do you do, ah, eh, my name is Tránsito, I am
00:19:5834 years old, I am from Yucatan, but I have lived here in Mexico City for 10 years,
00:20:02Tránsito, if you could go back to a day
00:20:05in your life for 5 minutes. A moment, where
00:20:09would you go back? I think I would go back
00:20:11to
00:20:14when I just finished my career at
00:20:17university,
00:20:19I felt very powerful,
00:20:23very with a blank slate
00:20:26to be able to do and
00:20:28create and I remember that the emotion of
00:20:32that emotion like everything is new, anything...
00:20:35really can happen, right? And
00:20:39it fills me a lot that feeling of that
00:20:42moment, not because it was a tragedy afterwards, but
00:20:45because when you told me it took me to that place
00:20:48where everything seemed brand new, fresh and
00:20:52open, how does nostalgia feel, how would you describe nostalgia?
00:20:56It feels like
00:20:58captured in a
00:21:02in a box that you can see perhaps,
00:21:05you can't see it, perhaps you can't
00:21:07eh touch it completely and
00:21:10yes it also gives you a desire to reach it, a desire to reach
00:21:14nostalgia, why perhaps because
00:21:18I can think or feel that I want to feel like
00:21:22that again, like for the first time, to experience for the first time
00:21:25certain emotions, certain feelings, when was the last
00:21:28time you felt nostalgic? Yesterday I took a walk with my
00:21:32mom in
00:21:36the village and I don't know
00:21:39like seeing her lighting a candle, we were talking about my
00:21:43dad eh who passed away not long ago and
00:21:47I felt nostalgic about seeing ourselves
00:21:51in a new configuration of my
00:21:53family, that is, nostalgia
00:21:56also
00:21:58carries in that glass box that you describe, it carries a
00:22:01longing, I think nostalgia carries losses and they
00:22:05are longed for, they are missed, yes, if there is sadness, it can
00:22:09also be in nostalgia eh, but not
00:22:11tragic, how is
00:22:13it then eh, I would say
00:22:17it's a sadness that... you
00:22:20also appreciate feeling that
00:22:23that eh you embrace
00:22:27that it can hurt but that
00:22:30it also forms part of you and that
00:22:34it also nourishes and strengthens you, what do you thank
00:22:37nostalgia for? I thank it for reminding me,
00:22:40for taking me to those moments, I thank
00:22:43it for reminding me, for also
00:22:47reviewing my present, because I think we also can't
00:22:50go to the past without looking at where we are today,
00:22:53now, hey, at the beginning you told me that
00:22:57you work with LGBT issues in the community of which I
00:23:00assume you are a part, whatever
00:23:04that question is, I love it, no, but I wanted
00:23:08to ask how nostalgia is lived or how you have seen it
00:23:11working with LGBT people, I
00:23:15imagine that they relate to nostalgia with nostalgia
00:23:18perhaps in particular ways,
00:23:21exactly, I work with Claudia López, mom with you, she
00:23:25receives many messages mainly from young people who
00:23:29are discovering or
00:23:31going through this with their families, that they
00:23:35are part of the LGBT community, right? So many and not only
00:23:39young people, but also slightly more adult people who I think
00:23:42also inhabit nostalgia a little from what was not
00:23:46like they can now have parallel lives.
00:23:50separated, those of their families, those of their family nuclei,
00:23:53and and they often express themselves also with
00:23:56this, with this longing, with that
00:23:59pain eh, of not having
00:24:02been able to build a story with their families, right? And like
00:24:06this eh, this desire also a little like
00:24:12another way, eh, connect in another way also
00:24:15with the community, with ties, with networks.
00:24:20of support if they can't have it in their
00:24:23homes, of course, I had not thought about that, but I think about
00:24:27this eh, I don't know what they talk about later regarding
00:24:30LGBT adolescence, right? Which is like, well, since I didn't live
00:24:33my LGBT adolescence, now that I live my adulthood, I'm going to
00:24:37of course, yes, yes, yes, and today I think there are also many
00:24:40adolescents who are living it differently than we
00:24:44did, you and I, can nostalgia harm
00:24:47us? If you don't go to therapy,
00:24:52maybe yes, I don't know,
00:24:54eh, it may be that a
00:24:58nostalgia
00:25:01not internalized, not reviewed
00:25:04from several angles or from a transformation that we all
00:25:08go through in life, maybe yes it can become
00:25:11eh something very difficult to
00:25:14visit, not to
00:25:18experience and... know what I was thinking about right now
00:25:21also eh that it's something I hadn't thought about but
00:25:25it came up, these are the reflections that come out here among us, with this that
00:25:29we were talking about the community how
00:25:32how nostalgia sometimes allows processes of struggle, right?
00:25:36Like in this case what you were telling about these adult
00:25:39eh older people who now say no well for that very reason I'm going to
00:25:43build so that adolescents enjoy
00:25:46that and it's ah-huh clear, clear, like what can be
00:25:50built from nostalgia, right? That is, eh,
00:25:54these new panoramas or new
00:25:57paths, new visions that we can or realities rather.
00:26:01I mean realities not, like building new realities
00:26:04eh from our experience that
00:26:08nostalgia also awakens in us not that
00:26:12it comes to stir up, if nostalgia were a person
00:26:15ah-huh, if it were here having
00:26:19tea with you, what would you like to ask it or tell it, I don't know, would
00:26:22nostalgia miss someone, who would nostalgia
00:26:26miss, who would nostalgia miss, would
00:26:29nostalgia think? of
00:26:32something that hasn't happened again, of a person it hasn't seen
00:26:36again,
00:26:39of I don't know, a landscape
00:26:41that it would like to see again, how beautiful,
00:26:45Tránsito, thank you very much for to share this here with me,
00:26:49eh, and for teaching us that
00:26:52nostalgia
00:26:55are the moments we lost, but also in nostalgia
00:26:58new realities can be built, thank you very much.
00:27:02Pachos, yes, cheers, cheers, thank you very much.
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