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00:00:24I'M AARTI POLE. WE LEAD OFF IN B.C. WHERE MORE
00:00:28WE LEAD OFF IN B.C. WHERE MORE THAN 100 WILDFIRES ARE RAGING THAN 100 WILDFIRES ARE RAGING ACROSS THE PROVINCE AND FOUR
00:00:31ACROSS THE PROVINCE AND FOUR MAJOR FIRES ARE BURNING OUT OF MAJOR FIRES ARE BURNING OUT OF CONTROL.
00:00:34CONTROL. RIGHT NOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
00:00:37PEOPLE HAVE OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND THOUSANDS ARE ON ALERT TO AND THOUSANDS ARE ON ALERT TO LEAVE IN A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
00:00:40LEAVE IN A MOMENT'S NOTICE. SOME WHO MADE NARROW ESCAPE FROM SOME WHO MADE NARROW ESCAPE FROM THE FLAMES ALREADY KNOW THEY
00:00:44THE FLAMES ALREADY KNOW THEY HAVE NO HOME TO RETURN TO.
00:00:47HAVE NO HOME TO RETURN TO. >> WE'RE STILL. >> WE'RE STILL. WORKING UNDER THE PREMISE THAT
00:00:51WORKING UNDER THE PREMISE THAT OUR HOUSE MIGHT BE OKAY EVEN
00:00:52OUR HOUSE MIGHT BE OKAY EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW IT'S NOT.
00:00:55THOUGH WE KNOW IT'S NOT. MY 13-YEAR-OLD FOUND A PICTURE MY 13-YEAR-OLD FOUND A PICTURE ON THE INTERNET SOMEWHERE OF OUR
00:00:58ON THE INTERNET SOMEWHERE OF OUR PROPERTY THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S
00:01:00PROPERTY THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S GONE.
00:01:05GONE. SO SHE KNOWS, BUT MY 11-YEAR-OLD SO SHE KNOWS, BUT MY 11-YEAR-OLD STILL DOESN'T KNOW. STILL DOESN'T KNOW. >> Aarti: ONE OF THE MOST
00:01:09>> Aarti: ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS SITUATIONS CONTINUES TO SERIOUS SITUATIONS CONTINUES TO BE THE BALD RANGE WILDFIRE NEAR BE THE BALD RANGE WILDFIRE NEAR SUMMERLAND.
00:01:13SUMMERLAND. FIREFIGHTERS FROM MEXICO HAVE FIREFIGHTERS FROM MEXICO HAVE JOINED THE FIGHT AND MORE
00:01:17EVACUATIONS AND THE FORECAST. THAT'S ALL COMING UP. THAT'S ALL COMING UP. >>> BUT WE WANT TO BEGIN WITH
00:01:20>>> BUT WE WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE CBC'S HELEN PIKE NEAR
00:01:21THE CBC'S HELEN PIKE NEAR PENTICTON WITH THE LATEST ON THE
00:01:24PENTICTON WITH THE LATEST ON THE WILDFIRE SITUATION IN SOUTHERN WILDFIRE SITUATION IN SOUTHERN OKANAGAN.
00:01:27OKANAGAN. NOW BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, NOW BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, TELL US FIRST ABOUT WHERE YOU
00:01:30TELL US FIRST ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE AND THE SCENE RIGHT NOW.
00:01:31ARE AND THE SCENE RIGHT NOW. >> Reporter: RIGHT, SO BEHIND
00:01:35>> Reporter: RIGHT, SO BEHIND ME ACROSS THE LAKE YOU CAN SEE
00:01:37ME ACROSS THE LAKE YOU CAN SEE THE COMMUNITY OF SUMMERLAND AND,
00:01:40THE COMMUNITY OF SUMMERLAND AND, YOU KNOW, THE MOUNTAINS HERE,
00:01:44YOU KNOW, THE MOUNTAINS HERE, THE MOUNTAIN RANGE, THE
00:01:45THE MOUNTAIN RANGE, THE COMMUNITY IS RIGHT BY THE WATER,
00:01:48COMMUNITY IS RIGHT BY THE WATER, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SMOKE
00:01:50BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SMOKE AND THE SMOKE IS KIND OF BEHIND
00:01:54AND THE SMOKE IS KIND OF BEHIND TUCKED IN AND RISING OUT HERE.
00:01:56TUCKED IN AND RISING OUT HERE. YOU KNOW, ANY ACTIVITY THAT
00:01:58YOU KNOW, ANY ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS CREWS AND
00:02:03WE'RE SEEING HERE IS CREWS AND FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES
00:02:05FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT CRITICAL
00:02:10TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT RESIDENTS INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT RESIDENTS WONDERING ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY
00:02:14WONDERING ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY CAN EVENTUALLY RETURN TO IT, BUT
00:02:16CAN EVENTUALLY RETURN TO IT, BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE STILL BEING
00:02:18RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE STILL BEING KEPT AWAY.
00:02:20KEPT AWAY. NOW YOU CAN SEE THE SMOKE -- YOU
00:02:23NOW YOU CAN SEE THE SMOKE -- YOU CAN'T SEE FLAMES WHICH IS GOOD,
00:02:26CAN'T SEE FLAMES WHICH IS GOOD, BUT BEHIND THAT MOUNTAIN RANGE
00:02:29BUT BEHIND THAT MOUNTAIN RANGE IS KIND OF WHERE THE FIRE RIGHT
00:02:32IS KIND OF WHERE THE FIRE RIGHT NOW IS. NOW IS. IT'S HIDING THE FIRE BASICALLY
00:02:35IT'S HIDING THE FIRE BASICALLY AND WE WERE HERE LAST NIGHT, WE
00:02:37AND WE WERE HERE LAST NIGHT, WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE GLOW OF
00:02:41COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE GLOW OF THE FIRE. THE FIRE. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY ALSO SEE
00:02:44AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY ALSO SEE THE LANDSCAPE. THE LANDSCAPE. THERE'S SOME BURNT OUT PATCHES
00:02:47THERE'S SOME BURNT OUT PATCHES WHERE THE EARTH HAS SEEN THE
00:02:51WHERE THE EARTH HAS SEEN THE FIRE. FIRE. NOW THIS MORNING, THE LATEST WE
00:02:54NOW THIS MORNING, THE LATEST WE HAVE ON HOW LARGE IT IS, IT'S
00:02:59HAVE ON HOW LARGE IT IS, IT'S NEARLY 180 SQUARE KILOMETRES,
00:03:01NEARLY 180 SQUARE KILOMETRES, STILL OUT OF CONTROL AND THEY'RE
00:03:04STILL OUT OF CONTROL AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING REALLY HARD HERE
00:03:08STILL WORKING REALLY HARD HERE TO GET IT IN CONTROL.
00:03:11TO GET IT IN CONTROL. YEAH.
00:03:15YEAH. AND SO THE -- THIS MORNING,
00:03:18AND SO THE -- THIS MORNING, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO SUMMERLAND
00:03:21WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO SUMMERLAND OFFICIALS AND WE'VE HEARD SOME
00:03:25OFFICIALS AND WE'VE HEARD SOME UPDATES. UPDATES. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR MORE IN
00:03:28WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR MORE IN INFORMATION THERE. INFORMATION THERE. >> Aarti: IT'S AN ONGOING
00:03:31>> Aarti: IT'S AN ONGOING DEVELOPING SITUATION AS DEVELOPING SITUATION AS OFFICIALS THERE TRY TO ASSESS
00:03:34OFFICIALS THERE TRY TO ASSESS THE DAMAGE AND THE CURRENT STATE
00:03:38THE DAMAGE AND THE CURRENT STATE OF THE FIRES THAT CONTINUE TO OF THE FIRES THAT CONTINUE TO BURN.
00:03:41BURN. WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF THE EVACUEES
00:03:44SPEAK WITH SOME OF THE EVACUEES WHO CERTAINLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHO CERTAINLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT VERY TRAUMATIC FEW DAYS THAT
00:03:47VERY TRAUMATIC FEW DAYS THAT HAVE JUST PASSED. HAVE JUST PASSED. YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE
00:03:51WELL TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. CONVERSATIONS. WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM PEOPLE
00:03:53WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN OUT OF THEIR WHO HAVE BEEN OUT OF THEIR HOMES?
00:03:57HOMES? >> RIGHT SO WE'VE BEEN LISTENING >> RIGHT SO WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE REGIONAL DISTRICT UPDATES
00:04:01TO THE REGIONAL DISTRICT UPDATES TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE SEEN
00:04:05TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE SEEN ONE QUESTION REPEATED WHEN CAN ONE QUESTION REPEATED WHEN CAN WE GO HOME?
00:04:09WE GO HOME? PEOPLE ARE EAGER TO GET BACK
00:04:12PEOPLE ARE EAGER TO GET BACK INTO THIS AREA.
00:04:15INTO THIS AREA. AND THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, WE
00:04:17AND THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, WE HAD OFFICIALS -- SUMMERLAND
00:04:19HAD OFFICIALS -- SUMMERLAND OFFICIALS ADDRESSING THAT OFFICIALS ADDRESSING THAT SITUATION.
00:04:23SITUATION. >> THAT IS THE WORST FEELING, >> THAT IS THE WORST FEELING, NOT KNOWING WHAT -- WHETHER YOUR
00:04:27NOT KNOWING WHAT -- WHETHER YOUR HOUSE IS STILL THERE. HOUSE IS STILL THERE. WE'RE INSURED TO THE MAX.
00:04:31WE'RE INSURED TO THE MAX. BUT STILL I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE BUT STILL I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE THREAT AND THE STRESS AND -- OF
00:04:34THREAT AND THE STRESS AND -- OF A FIRE BEFORE AND I JUST DIDN'T
00:04:36A FIRE BEFORE AND I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO FACE IT AGAIN.
00:04:39WANT TO FACE IT AGAIN. >> Reporter: SO WE'RE STILL
00:04:43>> Reporter: SO WE'RE STILL WAITING. WAITING. IT SOUND LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THE
00:04:46IT SOUND LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS YET ON WHEN PEOPLE CAN
00:04:49ANSWERS YET ON WHEN PEOPLE CAN RETURN.
00:04:50RETURN. STILL A VERY ACTIVE WILDFIRE, AN
00:04:55STILL A VERY ACTIVE WILDFIRE, AN AGGRESSIVE WILDFIRE AND ONE THAT
00:04:57AGGRESSIVE WILDFIRE AND ONE THAT EVERYONE IS WAITING TO SEE WHAT
00:04:59EVERYONE IS WAITING TO SEE WHAT IT WILL DO TODAY AND I'M SURE
00:05:02IT WILL DO TODAY AND I'M SURE WEATHER AND OTHER FACTORS TODAY WEATHER AND OTHER FACTORS TODAY WILL BE -- EVERYONE'S GOING TO
00:05:06WILL BE -- EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THAT BE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THAT TO SEE WHAT COMES NEXT AND WHERE
00:05:10TO SEE WHAT COMES NEXT AND WHERE IT TURNS. IT TURNS. >> Aarti: HELEN,
00:05:21Those cheers are for an incredible rescue from
00:05:24Colombia's earthquake. A woman has been pulled alive after
00:05:28being trapped in the debris for more than 36 hours. She is
00:05:32covered by that blue blanket. Now the search for survivors is
00:05:36getting more desperate as time continues to pass. The first 48
00:05:41to 72 hours are considered the critical window to find anyone
00:05:45alive.
00:05:46And while crews work around the clock searching for more
00:05:49survivors, the number of dead and missing
00:05:52continues to rise. CBS News reporter Lilia Luciano is
00:05:55tracking those developments for us. She is in one of the
00:05:58hardest hit cities, Perera. So Lilia,
00:06:00can you take us through the scene where you are and what
00:06:03you're hearing from people there?
00:06:08Are they, I'm, I'm holding my microphone very
00:06:11close to my mouth because what we are witnessing right now is
00:06:15a very active search and rescue scene. Right now,
00:06:18what you're seeing is a bit of a bucket brigade where people
00:06:22are moving smaller pieces of debris out of the way. But for
00:06:26the last half hour or so, we have been hearing these
00:06:29screws begging. The crews are begging for silence. So they
00:06:32raise their arms to signal silence. And so when that
00:06:36silence comes, of course, I have to stop talking or I'll
00:06:39have to whisper. And at that point, they start calling out,
00:06:43if you can hear us make a noise, make a sound.
00:06:46They are still actively looking for survivors in that building.
00:06:50The building next door is where you saw that woman that you
00:06:53were just talking about, that viewer saw in that video
00:06:56being rescued last night. We were here throughout the night.
00:07:00And they this, these moments of silence at
00:07:02night are a lot easier. It's easier for crews to search,
00:07:05but they cannot stop searching. I just interviewed a neighbor
00:07:09who lived on the 4th floor of that building. And she was
00:07:12telling me that one of her neighbors was rescued alive the
00:07:16day before, but her daughter who is 13
00:07:18years old, who was still stuck alive,
00:07:20according to the mother within a couple of columns there. So
00:07:24we keep hearing them saying lamina, lamina, the girl,
00:07:27the girl. So we are not sure whether they have heard
00:07:30something or not, but they keep calling for
00:07:33silence. The search is desperate. As you said,
00:07:36time is of the essence. And what you're seeing is even more
00:07:40than the search and rescue professional crews. You're
00:07:43seeing neighbors who are organizing volunteers. They do
00:07:47these chains of, of, of bringing debris out these
00:07:50bucket brigades as as some call them to facilitate their search.
00:07:54There's also dogs they're sniffing,
00:07:57brought in canine units, the units from the local fire
00:08:00department from they're, they're calling for silence. So
00:08:04at this point, we have to respect the silence.
00:08:07And at this point, they just listen and somebody
00:08:10says, if you're alive, make a sound.
00:08:14All we hear is some dogs barking,
00:08:16some noises from the street. It's very difficult for them
00:08:19because there are St. vendors with these loud speakers. There
00:08:23are motors rumbling. There's motorcycles everywhere. And now,
00:08:27OK, they've started asking to clear
00:08:29debris. We are not sure whether it is that they hurt something.
00:08:33But of course, everyone here is highly,
00:08:36hopefully *** what they call miracles in Venezuela,
00:08:39where it was days and days that people were stuck in the rubble
00:08:43and they were still rescued. So the woman I interviewed who
00:08:47lost her home, she wasn't home, but she saw the building
00:08:51crumbled. Shoes just right here across this park says it's not
00:08:54just a 13 year old girl there. She believes there are still
00:08:58about 6 people who could be stuck in that building.
00:09:02Some incredibly challenging and precise work that is being
00:09:05carried out. Certainly we hope for another incredible scene.
00:09:08Lilia, thank you very much for your
00:09:10reporting. We appreciate it.
00:09:13Thank you, Earthy. That is Lilia Lucia
00:09:16with CBS News in Pereira, Colombia.
00:09:20LUCIANO IN COLOMBIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >>> WE'RE GETTING DETAILS FROM
00:09:24>>> WE'RE GETTING DETAILS FROM THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO ABOUT THE EBOLA OUTBREAK CONGO ABOUT THE EBOLA OUTBREAK HAPPENING THERE.
00:09:28HAPPENING THERE. THEY SHOW THE NUMBER OF CASES THEY SHOW THE NUMBER OF CASES CONTINUES TO RISE.
00:09:31CONTINUES TO RISE. THERE ARE NOW MORE THAN 4400
00:09:33THERE ARE NOW MORE THAN 4400 CONFIRMED CASES AND MORE THAN CONFIRMED CASES AND MORE THAN 2,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
00:09:372,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED. THIS IS THE FASTEST GROWING
00:09:40THIS IS THE FASTEST GROWING EBOLA OUTBREAK ON RECORD AND EBOLA OUTBREAK ON RECORD AND HEALTH EXPERTS SAY THE VIRUS MAY
00:09:44HEALTH EXPERTS SAY THE VIRUS MAY HAVE BEEN SPREADING FOR MONTHS HAVE BEEN SPREADING FOR MONTHS BEFORE IT WAS EVEN DETECTED.
00:09:47BEFORE IT WAS EVEN DETECTED. CLINICAL TRIALS ARE UNDER WAY IN CLINICAL TRIALS ARE UNDER WAY IN EASTERN CONGO, BUT SO FAR, THERE
00:09:50EASTERN CONGO, BUT SO FAR, THERE ARE NO APPROVED VACCINES OR ARE NO APPROVED VACCINES OR TREATMENTS.
00:09:54TREATMENTS. EARLIER TODAY, THE DIRECTOR EARLIER TODAY, THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF THE WORLD HEALTH
00:09:56GENERAL OF THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION GAVE AN UPDATE AND ORGANIZATION GAVE AN UPDATE AND HE URGED THE PUBLIC TO HELP
00:09:59HE URGED THE PUBLIC TO HELP DETECT AND REPORT CASES IN ORDER
00:10:02DETECT AND REPORT CASES IN ORDER TO CONTAIN THE OUT BREAK.
00:10:06TO CONTAIN THE OUT BREAK. >> SURVEILLANCE IS OUR PRIORITY.
00:10:11>> SURVEILLANCE IS OUR PRIORITY. OUR PRIORITY IS THE CHALLENGE.
00:10:13OUR PRIORITY IS THE CHALLENGE. WITH PARTNERS, WE'RE MAPPING AND
00:10:16WITH PARTNERS, WE'RE MAPPING AND POOLING RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITY
00:10:19POOLING RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE TO BRING EVERY
00:10:20SURVEILLANCE TO BRING EVERY SUSPECTED CASE INTO CARE AND
00:10:23SUSPECTED CASE INTO CARE AND REACH THE 95% CONDUCT TRACING
00:10:27REACH THE 95% CONDUCT TRACING TARGET NEEDED TO INTERRUPT TARGET NEEDED TO INTERRUPT TRANSMISSION.
00:10:30TRANSMISSION. TODAY, WE'RE AT AROUND 80%.
00:10:33TODAY, WE'RE AT AROUND 80%. WE ARE ALSO TRIPLING TREATMENT
00:10:36WE ARE ALSO TRIPLING TREATMENT CAPACITY WITH A GOAL OF 3,000
00:10:39CAPACITY WITH A GOAL OF 3,000 BEDS WITHIN 12 WEEKS.
00:10:41BEDS WITHIN 12 WEEKS. WE ALSO NEED TO RECRUIT AND
00:10:44WE ALSO NEED TO RECRUIT AND TRAIN 3 WORKERS FOR EVERY
00:10:51TRAIN 3 WORKERS FOR EVERY PATIENT. PATIENT. THAT'S THOUSANDS MORE THAN WE THAT'S THOUSANDS MORE THAN WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
00:10:55HAVE AT THE MOMENT. >> THAT WAS THE DIRECTOR GENERAL >> THAT WAS THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
00:10:58OF THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND HE WENT ON TO SAY THERE ARE
00:11:01CHAINS OF TRANSMISSION THAT LOCAL HEALTH OFFICIALS DON'T LOCAL HEALTH OFFICIALS DON'T KNOW ABOUT. KNOW ABOUT. AND HE STRESSED THAT EARLY
00:16:04Your search master alone
00:16:06A difficile Montreal's police chief says he vows to make
00:16:10things right as the community confronts him over the alleged
00:16:14actions of 16 of his officers. Confidence in police marred by
00:16:18the ongoing investigation
00:16:22outside City Hall, frustration and anger from
00:16:25those who couldn't get in. Others expressed some hope.
00:16:29We're happy to see that something is being done.
00:16:32Although it took other police for this to happen,
00:16:35having the opportunity to talk about it,
00:16:38I think this is a positive change for the future.
00:16:41According to Hado Canada sources,
00:16:44the officers were accused of random stops based solely on
00:16:48ethnicity and cutting off dreadlocks, then taking them
00:16:51as trophies. The claims were first made public back in June
00:16:55after fellow officers made complaints. The news explosive
00:16:59to some, including the mayor. Many
00:17:01Montrealers have lost confidence and it is upon us to
00:17:05make sure that we are working with the SVM to rebuild that
00:17:09trust. But for some community organizers,
00:17:12the allegations aren't a surprise. And they say action
00:17:15is more important than words. People say, look,
00:17:18we've known this situation that exists for years,
00:17:22we will lift it. We don't want to go back and, you know,
00:17:25rehash these things. We want solutions. And when we talk
00:17:28about solution, we have to talk about something
00:17:31future oriented, something concrete.
00:17:34The police chief saying that's exactly what this public
00:17:37meeting was about, to speak directly with community members.
00:17:41And Sarah, there are calls for actions. So
00:17:44what are people asking for? Well,
00:17:46the police chief says there are a number of measures already in
00:17:50place, collaboration with community
00:17:53organizations, continued sensitivity training.
00:17:56He said it was important to move forward with what he said
00:18:00was transparency and humility. But that was really put to the
00:18:04test at this meeting where few answers were given and people
00:18:08felt they really had little time to speak.
00:18:12Sarah Levitt in Montreal tonight. Thank you.
00:18:17Saskatchewan's plan to refurbish its coal-fired power
00:18:19plants has a problem, according to one economist. If
00:18:22you have a 50 year old car and you stick a new engine on it,
00:18:25that's that doesn't mean you've got a brand new car. Britt
00:18:29Daughter ran the numbers and found that doubling down on
00:18:32coal could cost the government 10s of billions of dollars more
00:18:36than expected. A leaked SAS power document pays the cost at
00:18:39$26 billion / 25 years, but Dolter predicts it could
00:18:42actually be more than $30 billion. Over the next 20 years,
00:18:45that number jumps to nearly 47
00:18:47billion. If you add in federal carbon pricing,
00:18:50Dolter says building natural gas power plants and using
00:18:54renewable sources like wind would be much cheaper. We can
00:18:57pick a scenario that's saving us money,
00:19:00saving us some missions and you know,
00:19:02on average saving the individual person $800 plus per
00:19:05year. I mean, I see that is a clear advantage
00:19:08to go in that direction. So if coal is more expensive,
00:19:12why is it the path that Saskatchewan has chosen?
00:19:15The Opposition NDP say it's a choice to satisfy the SAS
00:19:19rule base. I can say with confidence that certainly not
00:19:22motivated around having the most reliable energy grid
00:19:25because that's been called into question as well. It's not
00:19:28motivated around having the cheapest or,
00:19:30or best rates for Saskatchewan people, businesses,
00:19:33farms. One of the communities that would have been hardest
00:19:36hit by the end of coal is Estevan. The mayor says closing
00:19:39nearby coal-fired power plants would have had a dire effect on
00:19:43the city of more than 10, 000 people. Prior to the
00:19:46announcements. You know, we were, as a city preparing to lose up
00:19:49up to a third of our population. Estevan is now being considered
00:19:53as a site for a small modular nuclear reactor and it gets to
00:19:56keep its coal plants a while longer. But Dolter says
00:19:59doubling down on coal is a financial and legal risk for
00:20:03Saskatchewan as it goes against multiple federal regulations
00:20:06that require coal to be phased out. Worst case scenario is we
00:20:10spend a whole bunch of money to refurbish these coal plants.
00:20:13That's 2.6 billion, let's say, And then we still end up losing
00:20:17court challenges and have to shut them off. So we've just
00:20:20wasted 2.6 billion. The provincial government says it's planning
00:20:24to use every resource it has at its disposal,
00:20:27including coal and natural gas, as a bridge to nuclear power
00:20:30and to save jobs. We asked the provincial government to
00:20:34respond to daughters analysis. It sent back a statement that
00:20:37did not answer our questions. Alexander Kwan, CBC News, Regina.
00:20:44How do people in northeast Calgary feel about a referendum
00:20:46on Alberta independence? One pollster suggests
00:20:48ethnocultural communities could play an outsized role in this
00:20:52campaign. More on that later. Let's first hear how people
00:20:55feel. So we set up in Calgary Sunridge Mall to invite some
00:20:58conversations. I've been into politics here and there. Connor
00:21:01Gray Wall is a second year political science student. His
00:21:04parents own a small business and he's active in the Sikh
00:21:06community. And the community is not really that talked about
00:21:10because we're all just kind of like a lot of people,
00:21:12everyone in the brownies, like, let's just
00:21:14our focus on our own stuff and let's look towards the greater
00:21:18good for everyone. But for me personally,
00:21:20I don't think Alberta should be separating. Thank you for doing
00:21:23this. You're welcome. Mohammad Al House has been living in
00:21:26Calgary for 18 years. He's originally from Morocco and
00:21:29retrained as a truck driver after getting laid off in the
00:21:32energy industry. I mean, I don't blame the people
00:21:36that think separation of Alberta is the best idea
00:21:39because they, they had like a, a golden age. I mean,
00:21:44the level of life that they had or they got used to,
00:21:48it's not the same level of life that they're having right now.
00:21:53They always think that this money goes somewhere else,
00:21:57other provinces. That's why I don't blame them. But
00:22:02inside opinion, I'm always gonna like against
00:22:05separation because I believe always the union is the power
00:22:09looks good. Adam Al Castaway is a psychologist. He's a second
00:22:13generation immigrant who has family roots in Egypt. For
00:22:16myself, I typically stay out of it. I'm
00:22:19a pretty apolitical and that's by design. I never really felt
00:22:23that politics sees me, you know, as a person. My parents came
00:22:27here as immigrants. One of my my mom came here as a refugee.
00:22:31So it's not, you're clear to me that I even have a seat at the table to
00:22:35have a valid opinion about whether we should separate from
00:22:38the rest of Canada or not. Do you think you talked about your
00:22:42like members in the Sikh community,
00:22:44especially the older members, not maybe being so invested in
00:22:47this conversation now? Do you think people will vote
00:22:50in October? I personally believe not,
00:22:52to be honest, I don't personally think that
00:22:54they're going to vote. I feel like if they would start voting,
00:22:57we'd have to start talking to them,
00:22:59kind of educating them about like what's going on right now.
00:23:03That's also providing examples of what's going on back home to
00:23:06give them that sense of like, OK,
00:23:08if that's what was going on back home in India,
00:23:11the same things going on here, then we have more reason to
00:23:14kind of tie into it and have a seat. Karen Burton works in
00:23:18retail management. She's a recent immigrant to Canada who
00:23:21previously worked in Singapore and Kuwait. Well, for me,
00:23:25I love Alberta to separate because I want Alberta to be
00:23:28independent. And that's what also all my neighbors talk
00:23:31about it. We've been also like, joining
00:23:34some of the rallies out there. Yeah,
00:23:36cause I'm really 100% supporting
00:23:39for the separation. You seem really excited about this idea.
00:23:42Excited. Hopefully. We're actually hoping,
00:23:45yeah. Do you think it'll go through? Well,
00:23:48I have a feeling that yeah, we'll go through because
00:23:51everyone is on it. Yeah, we're strongly supporting. Like
00:23:54everyone is pushing hard. Well, I should say out of 100%,
00:23:58there are probably like 20% that they disagree,
00:24:01but I should say 80% in our community,
00:24:04they agree with separation. So we heard a mix of opinions here
00:24:08today and that reflects polling so far. Now about that role
00:24:12cultural communities could play in the referendum. This analyst
00:24:16expects it to be significant. What makes visible minority
00:24:20voter communities interesting? There is an increased reliance
00:24:24on personal networks, community leaders who can
00:24:27persuade, rally, mobilize and deliver blocks of
00:24:30voters on Election Day. And people's opinions seem fixed.
00:24:34Maybe personal connections are one way that we could see the
00:24:38numbers turn in in either direction. But however people
00:24:41decide, Santos says ultimately the
00:24:44referendum will come down to turn out who shows up to mark a
00:24:48ballot. The vote is October 19. Elise Stolte, CBC News,
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00:27:32So the headlines are bad. More Canadians are so deep in debt
00:27:35they need to file for insolvency. Telling the
00:27:38government I can't pay all of this off and it's more
00:27:42Canadians doing this than we've seen in the last 15 plus years.
00:27:46Canadians are drowning in debt. Housing and food are expensive.
00:27:50Coffee, beef,
00:27:52everything's on the rise. I only shop at Dollarama now.
00:27:55Everything costs more. How do you bridge that gap? Well,
00:27:59you do it with debt. And here's what too much debt looks like.
00:28:03Note the part of this from around 2020 on this group of
00:28:06Canadians at their breaking point,
00:28:08almost doubling in size in just six years. And zooming back out,
00:28:12you see the comparison to the financial crisis of 2008,
00:28:162009. We're almost at that same level and trending to possibly
00:28:20go even higher. But is this graph as it seems?
00:28:23Are things really as bad as they were almost 20 years ago?
00:28:27Yes and no, and I can show you why.
00:28:35Did you know that when people talk about declaring bankruptcy
00:28:39in Canada, there are actually two kinds of
00:28:41bankruptcy. You can declare there's really bankrupt and
00:28:44then there's kind of bankrupt, but not really. There are two
00:28:48types of insolvency proceedings for individuals in Canada. 1 is
00:28:51the consumer proposal and the other is bankruptcy. So the
00:28:55headlines I was showing you earlier,
00:28:57they were all about consumer or personal insolvency filings.
00:29:00That's when people like you and me
00:29:02run out of money and can't pay our debts. And the two main
00:29:06types, actual bankruptcy, where you have your debt wiped
00:29:09clean, but you have to sell a bunch of
00:29:11your stuff, do financial counseling,
00:29:13and wreck your credit score for seven years or so. Then there's
00:29:17the other type, which is filing for a consumer
00:29:20proposal. It's got many of the same features and downsides as
00:29:24filing for bankruptcy, but with a major difference.
00:29:27You got to make a deal. Your debts get slashed by more than
00:29:30half in some cases, but you have to commit to
00:29:33regular payments. In exchange, you get to retain your assets,
00:29:37expensive vehicles, jewelry, art, electronics,
00:29:40land investments, inheritances, you get the idea. I explain all
00:29:44of this for two reasons. One, that will become much more
00:29:48important later on. But two, just to make clear that when we
00:29:52showed you this graph and these headlines,
00:29:55they're all talking about these two types of insolvency filings.
00:29:59They're really heavy kind and the lighter kind. Add them
00:30:03together, we're at nearly 2 decade
00:30:05eyes. But what the simple graphs don't show you is that
00:30:09most insolvency filings are this kind of less harsh
00:30:12bankruptcy. That's the middle line here. You can see by far
00:30:16the main way people actually avoid filing for bankruptcy,
00:30:19which is that bottom line there. But technically you're still
00:30:23filing for insolvency. You're still running out of money,
00:30:27can't pay your debts, and are asking for help. So now,
00:30:30you know, that's what's captured in all
00:30:33of these headlines today about consumer insolvencies
00:30:36hitting new highs in Canada. But what's not captured,
00:30:40and this is where I think some of the coverage can sometimes
00:30:45feel a little overly anxiety inducing,
00:30:47are all the ways in which we can't just compare today to the
00:30:52financial crisis of 2008, 2009 adjusted for population,
00:30:56we are nowhere near where we were in 2009. Yeah,
00:30:59that's a big one. If insolvency filings today are hitting
00:31:04roughly the same highs as almost 20 years ago,
00:31:07but the overall population today is much,
00:31:10much bigger than it was almost 20 years ago. Like a pond with
00:31:14one dead fish is a lot worse than an ocean with one dead
00:31:18fish, right? Well, then so too is it pretty
00:31:21straightforward math to show how over a three month period
00:31:25in 2009, this many insolvencies out of
00:31:27this much adult population equals this percentage of the
00:31:31population going insolvent compared to 2026. Fewer
00:31:35insolvencies across a larger population is just
00:31:38this percentage of people hitting rock bottom kind of a
00:31:42big difference. Except now you're all like, well,
00:31:45not really, Andrew, .15 and .11 are still pretty
00:31:48close. To which I say, yeah, if you're a giant. And if you
00:31:52look down at these numbers, that's just tiny little itty
00:31:56bitty percentages. But even on a small scale,
00:31:58.15% of people having a bad time is still 36% worse than
00:32:02.11% of people having a bad time. Just like if I were to
00:32:06ask, would you rather have 15 pianos
00:32:09following you from someone's balcony while you're walking on
00:32:12the street below or would you rather just have 11 pianos fall
00:32:15on you? Yeah, that's what I thought. There is
00:32:17this resonance with 2009 and the number of filings we saw
00:32:20back then, but it is, it is a different set of
00:32:22factors. A lot of the economic strain that we found ourselves
00:32:26in over the past five or six years is a contributing factor.
00:32:29I don't think necessarily need to be alarmist yet at this
00:32:32point, but certainly concerning. Point being, we should really underline and
00:32:36repeat what this Insolvency Trustee told us just a minute
00:32:39ago. Adjusted
00:32:40our population. We are nowhere near where we were in 2009,
00:32:44but we are significantly higher than where we were a year,
00:32:482 years, three years ago. Done, done. Yes,
00:32:51things are still bad.
00:32:59O, this is a good time to circle
00:33:01back to that first graph we showed you. O we now know we
00:33:05can take this comparison to 2009 levels of personal
00:33:08insolvency with a grain of salt, but that doesn't let us off the
00:33:12hook of having to confront this rickety staircase. Insolvencies
00:33:16are up. In the last year or so, it's been a more rapid
00:33:20acceleration of the numbers of folks that are seeking relief
00:33:24through the insolvency
00:33:26process in Canada and in Canada's most populous province,
00:33:30bankruptcies are up. So specifically in Ontario,
00:33:33the type of insolvency where people are having to forfeit
00:33:37sometimes their priciest assets full on bankruptcy where they
00:33:41can't really commit to repaying any significant portion of
00:33:46their debts, those are up in a pretty
00:33:48significant way about 27% year over year Q1 to Q1. We are
00:33:52certainly seeing Ontario getting hit harder
00:33:55proportionally
00:33:57than the rest of the country, presumably because Ontario has
00:34:00a greater manufacturing base. Canada has been ripping us off
00:34:04for years. Tomorrow tariffs 25% on Canada. Instead of a
00:34:08manufacturing recession, we can have a manufacturing
00:34:12renaissance. As tempting as it is,
00:34:14there's no one reason that fully explains why Canadians
00:34:17are increasingly finding themselves at this kind of
00:34:21financial breaking point. Our general cost of living
00:34:24inflation has soared higher than any of us
00:34:27would like. Groceries are getting more expensive more
00:34:31quickly than many other items. It seems everything is getting
00:34:35pretty pricey. Four person household, including me,
00:34:38and we're all living paycheck to paycheck. I think we've also
00:34:42accumulated maybe about another 20 years of cost of living in
00:34:46affordability struggles. Back then it was a little bit
00:34:49noticeable. Now it's almost impossible not to notice. Plus
00:34:53the war on Iran, the chokehold on oil,
00:34:55driving gas prices up. That too is a pain point
00:34:58where it's hard to be just like I'll save on gas by only
00:35:02driving half the distance to work today. You gotta buy gas.
00:35:05People gotta get to work. Cost of gasoline has put my fleet
00:35:09cost for fuel up probably by a couple of $1000 over the last
00:35:12two months. A lot of people are now reaching the breaking point.
00:35:16They just cannot do it. The first month or two when gas
00:35:19prices go up, it's not a big deal. I can
00:35:22jiggle things around. But as it happens month after month after
00:35:25month, the pressure just builds. It just slowly accumulated. So
00:35:29these things around then, banking crisis,
00:35:31COVID supply shocks, Russia, invasion of Ukraine,
00:35:34closure of the Strait of Ramuz, all of these things are just
00:35:38extra things that where we might normally just shrug them
00:35:41off as, hey, that's a bad week, a bad month,
00:35:43a bad year. It's now wait, this has been a bad lifetime.
00:35:47So the worst news is that insolvencies and bankruptcies
00:35:50are up in a way we haven't seen in almost 2 decades. It is
00:35:53definitely concerning. It's certainly higher than it's been
00:35:56for many years. The worrying news is that insolvencies are
00:35:59simply a symptom,
00:36:01have a deeper problem, a broader economic problem that
00:36:04doesn't exactly look to be going away anytime soon. I
00:36:07think in the shorter term we're probably going to see it
00:36:11continue to increase, but the reassuring news is that
00:36:14we have seen worse comparisons, especially to things 20 years
00:36:18ago, are tough to make accurately.
00:36:20So the real test will be in where things go, starting now.
00:36:31Canada has a plan to lower grocery prices,
00:36:33and it involves spending big on food terminals. But what are
00:36:36they and can they lower your grocery bill?
00:36:38Right now we're at the Ontario Food Terminal in Etobicoke,
00:36:41the largest food terminal in Canada. Food terminals are
00:36:44basically wholesale markets where fresh produce gets bought
00:36:47and sold in bulk. Farmers and food producers show up every
00:36:50morning to sell to places like brochures,
00:36:53restaurants and hospitals. The Ontario Food Terminal says an
00:36:56average of £5.6 million of products, mostly fruits,
00:36:58vegetables, sometimes flowers, are distributed
00:37:01year daily. That's roughly the weight of 175 fully loaded
00:37:04school buses. Last month, the federal government
00:37:07announced a national food security strategy that commits
00:37:11to spending $3.2 billion over a decade to give consumers more
00:37:14choice and produce more in Canada. 1 billion of it is
00:37:17going towards a Food Link fund. That money will go towards
00:37:21expanding the Ontario Food Terminal,
00:37:23building 2 new food terminals elsewhere in Canada and growing
00:37:27or launching around 10 smaller food hubs. So why are all of a
00:37:30sudden spending so much on food terminals? The government's argument is
00:37:34that there isn't enough competition in the grocery
00:37:37sector. Right now we have a grocery oligopoly. There are 5
00:37:40big grocery chains, Loblaws, Sobeys, Metro,
00:37:43Walmart and Costco that make up about 75% of sales. Those major
00:37:46grocers don't need to rely on food terminals. Many have their
00:37:49own private supply chains to buy from. Ontario independent
00:37:53grocers don't have that. They can either buy from the five
00:37:56big chains or go to the food terminal here in Toronto. The
00:37:59government's logic is the more food terminals, the more competition
00:38:03among producers and farmers, in theory making it cheaper for
00:38:06small grocers to buy the produce they need and pass
00:38:08savings along to consumers. Little Harvest Market is an
00:38:11independent grocer in Toronto. There are no stranger to the
00:38:14Ontario Food Terminal. We always look for the Quebec
00:38:17strawberries. There's limited stock,
00:38:19so we have to go and like fight for it. We asked them about the
00:38:22Ontario Food Terminal expansions. Will that help your
00:38:25business? I believe so. Expanding the
00:38:27food terminal means that there will be more space for
00:38:30suppliers, maybe more farmers can come in and that will give us a greater
00:38:34selection and we may be able to negotiate better pricing. What
00:38:37does the food terminal offer you that going to your
00:38:40competitors supply chains don't? We have greater access to
00:38:43variety. We can choose the freshest. We taste them,
00:38:46we smell them, we look at them and check the
00:38:49quality. Is it also cheaper for you?
00:38:51It depends on the time of the year. In the summer when a
00:38:54produce, Canadian produce is abundant,
00:38:56then yes, it can be very cheap. In the
00:38:58winter is when I think we all know that lettuce can go up to
00:39:02like 10 bucks and that's the biggest difference.
00:39:04It is not consistent, but I do think that the
00:39:07increase in infrastructure bringing in more competition
00:39:10will help with stabilizing prices year round. So what does
00:39:13this mean for sellers? I think that there's a good
00:39:16chance that it becomes more competitive and more
00:39:19potentially more difficult for our business. But I still
00:39:22continue to believe that if more Canadians are eating more
00:39:25produce that we all benefit, You know what's going on with
00:39:29the US right now. I think we gotta rely more on our Canadian
00:39:32farmers that we can, you know, grow stuff all year,
00:39:35you know, that we don't need to states
00:39:37anymore that we can rely on Canada here. It's still unclear
00:39:41the exact changes that the Ontario Food Terminal expansion
00:39:44will include, but some are hoping it can mean
00:39:47better infrastructure. I imagine being here when it's
00:39:50-20 outside, then some customers stay inside.
00:39:53Or if we would have a facility for the farmer,
00:39:56then the customers I'm hoping would be coming to us since
00:39:59we're not standing outside with -20 But can these food
00:40:03terminals actually lower your grocery bill? To say
00:40:06beyond reasonable doubt that prices will drop is is close to
00:40:09impossible. This food researcher says grocery prices
00:40:12are affected by a bunch of factors like climate,
00:40:15seasonality, packaging on farm costs,
00:40:17transportation, and even currency. But creating
00:40:20food terminals could reduce price volatility. That's when
00:40:23prices go up and down for a particular product. You see,
00:40:27the food terminal is, is a marketplace. It allows for
00:40:30exchanges to kill between supply and demand. So you
00:40:33increase chances for exchanges to occur. When you do that,
00:40:36you
00:40:38price competition, and when competition goes up,
00:40:41prices tend to stabilize. Not always go down,
00:40:44but they tend to stabilize overtime. CBC News Toronto.
00:42:51Our next guest narrowly escaped the Bald Range wildfire
00:42:54northwest of Summerland, British Columbia. And I want to
00:42:58show you a picture of Gord Hayman's house on fire. The
00:43:01flames destroyed his home, property and multiple vehicles
00:43:05on his property. He, his wife and his daughters are
00:43:08safe, but they are coping, of course,
00:43:11with the emotion of losing their home and what to do next.
00:43:15Gordon Hayman joins us from Oliver, BC Gordon,
00:43:18thanks so much for talking to us. First off,
00:43:21you're safe. How are you doing?
00:43:24Oh gosh, that that's a minute to minute
00:43:28to answer to that question.
00:43:32Thinking about everything. Every so often we remember
00:43:35something new that's missing.
00:43:38Yeah.
00:43:40Can you tell me a little bit about how you got out of summer
00:43:44land in in when those that fire just exploded?
00:43:50I I got a message from one of my good friends saying that
00:43:53there was a fire nearby and I should check it out. Went
00:43:56outside,
00:43:58saw the smoke coming up over the hill and we didn't wait for
00:44:02any official notification from government or groups. We we
00:44:07just started packing whatever we could and got into our
00:44:11trailer and our two vehicles that we were able to drive away
00:44:16with and we went down to downtown Summerland at our shop
00:44:20facility.
00:44:23You own a business in Summerland.
00:44:26I, I do. So we, we set up in our,
00:44:30our front yard and we thought that would be far enough away
00:44:35that we could stick it out for a little bit. But I guess we
00:44:39arrived there at about 8:00 and by 12:30,
00:44:42so early in the morning, we got a new notification
00:44:46saying the entire district summer land was being evacuated.
00:44:50So we hitched ourselves back up and we carried on out of town.
00:44:57What do you know about what happened to your home property
00:45:01and how did you get that information?
00:45:06Well, uh, I know that there's very little
00:45:10of it left. Uh,
00:45:12we got some photos from some neighbors that stayed to try
00:45:16and protect their property. So
00:45:20when they finally had to abandon it,
00:45:23I guess they were taking videos and pictures as they rolled out
00:45:27of town. So that's where we got the the actual pictures from.
00:45:33You talked about the evacuation. That was Friday night when
00:45:36you're talking about going to your business property and then
00:45:39having to get out.
00:45:41That's right. Did you imagine, did you ever anticipate that
00:45:44you'd have to leave?
00:45:47No, Gosh, of course not. Um,
00:45:53just, I, I think we're about 15 or 20
00:45:56kilometers from where the fire started at our shop. So I was
00:46:00certain that that was going to be a good spot for us to stay.
00:46:05I mean, we would have had water and
00:46:07power and the yard was relatively flat. It would have
00:46:11been great, but
00:46:14no, it wasn't safe at all, as it turned out.
00:46:21What do you know now about how to get back in to survey what's
00:46:26happened? Or as importantly, how to recoup anything from
00:46:31what was lost
00:46:34of we we know very, very little. Nobody's allowed
00:46:38to enter summer land without a a special permit. I did go into
00:46:42the Penticton Trade and Convention Centre and try to
00:46:46get one so that I could recover some tools and material from
00:46:51our shop space, but my request was denied. So
00:46:56I have absolutely no idea what's what's happening in
00:47:00Summerland, and the 6:00 PM updates that we
00:47:03get daily
00:47:06barely scratch that itch. There's just not enough information
00:47:09available and still closed off to everyone. You've got 2 girls
00:47:15and your wife. How's everybody holding up?
00:47:21Uh,
00:47:24the girls.
00:47:27We haven't actually
00:47:30really discussed it yet. Um, I I don't know exactly how to
00:47:35tell them that
00:47:36everything they have is gone
00:47:39or so
00:47:42we're still
00:47:46working under the premise that our house might be OK even
00:47:50though we know it's not. My 13 year old found a picture on the
00:47:54Internet somewhere of our property that shows it is gone
00:47:58so she knows. But my 11 year old still doesn't know
00:48:03and I'm not entirely sure how we're going to.
00:48:11It's a difficult
00:48:12thing to talk about because she has so many things that were
00:48:17very special to her.
00:48:20It's gonna be a really hard conversation,
00:48:23so I'm not anxious to have,
00:48:27I'm sure. God, are you getting support from
00:48:29other community members?
00:48:32Oh, absolutely. There's, I don't think there's anybody I
00:48:36know who hasn't reached out offering whatever they're able
00:48:41to offer. But I, I would consider that we're
00:48:46one of the more fortunate families because we did manage
00:48:50to get out with the trailer. So we've,
00:48:52we've got somewhere to rest our heads. And you know,
00:48:56we have an absolutely wonderful family that's hosting us out in
00:49:00all over where it's very far from the fire. And we know with
00:49:03a reasonable amount of certainty that there won't be
00:49:07another evacuation necessary. So
00:49:10everybody, certainly from the folder
00:49:13community where our home was, has been Absolutely Fabulous.
00:49:18I'm glad to hear that. But so many uncertainties remain,
00:49:22don't they, about what to do next.
00:49:26Yeah, like I started an ICBC claim
00:49:29yesterday. We had five work vehicles and three trailers on
00:49:34my property. We had our personal vehicle,
00:49:37which is gone. We've started a insurance claim with for the
00:49:42house. And of course everybody wants to be able to get on to
00:49:47the property and inspect it to confirm total loss. But
00:49:54that process can't really start. So we're in a bit of a limbo
00:49:59until
00:50:00the authorities say that we can go back to Summerland and at
00:50:04least have a look around.
00:50:06We're very hopeful that some of our stuff in the basement might
00:50:11be salvageable still. I mean,
00:50:13we, we just don't know.
00:50:15Yeah. Prospects to rebuild do you think?
00:50:20Well, thankfully we're, we're well insured. So
00:50:25that, that's our plan. Uh, we've already spoken to being
00:50:29in the construction trade. I know
00:50:32builders and a lot of other wonderful trades people. So I,
00:50:36I can't imagine that we're going to have a difficult time
00:50:40finding people that are willing to,
00:50:42to go to work and get everything in our community
00:50:46rebuilt. But it, it's certainly not going to be
00:50:49something that happens quickly,
00:50:53just difficult all around. This the disruption to your family.
00:50:56Gord, I want to thank you for sharing
00:50:59your story with us because it really gives us a picture of
00:51:02how difficult these wildfires have become for people like you
00:51:06and your family. And we wish you and your wife and the girls
00:51:09the best as you figure out how to proceed next.
00:51:13Thanks so much. It's, uh, it's a difficult time, but
00:51:18we're, we're going to come out of it
00:51:21stronger and more
00:51:24just better, better for it, I'm sure,
00:51:27I'm quite certain. Thank you, Gordon Hayman in Oliver,
00:51:31BC this morning. You have a good day.
00:53:37If you're ready to find the love of your life,
00:53:39Love is blind. It's the dating reality show that's become a
00:53:43cultural phenomenon worldwide. Now it's setting its sights on
00:53:47Canada, calling for people to apply it
00:53:50right away. The original US show is 10 seasons in all,
00:53:54built around one question. Is love really blind?
00:53:57Single strangers are paired up in separate pods. They talk,
00:54:01they date, some even get engaged. All this
00:54:04before seeing each other.
00:54:06Now it's Canada's turn. It's just like the toughest place to
00:54:10date. And I'm like, thank God it finally came here.
00:54:13The show has had plenty of spinoffs. There's Love is Blind,
00:54:16Brazil, Mexico and Japan, to name a few. But having a
00:54:20Canadian version of a US romance reality series comes
00:54:23with its challenges, says this executive producer
00:54:26who worked on The Bachelor Canada. As a Canadian producer
00:54:29is you're often not working with the same budget and
00:54:32support. There's a different culture here, even if you expect,
00:54:36In my experience, I haven't seen the same level
00:54:39as I would in an American version. But Canadians on US
00:54:43dating shows do bring the drama. They've been on shows from Too
00:54:47Hot to Handle to Perfect Match and The Bachelorette. The
00:54:51timing is right for more, says this pop culture writer.
00:54:55Canada is very clearly having a moment in media and in pop
00:54:58culture. You know, we have a former Prime Minister
00:55:02who's dating an international pop star. We have shows like
00:55:06Heated Rivalry
00:55:07that have become really successful. It's also, you know,
00:55:11makes sense that now would be the time with all of this going
00:55:15on that Netflix would finally make the foray into Canada for
00:55:19For love is blind. But is love truly blind and does it last?
00:55:23In all, 55 couples came together on the
00:55:26US show, but only a handful, 8 remained together. Still,
00:55:30romantics don't seem fazed. I really hope I get I get to be
00:55:35part of it. No word yet on When
00:55:37Love Is Blind Canada will begin filming. Mahdi Gebrselassie,
00:55:41CBC News, Toronto.
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01:00:31>>> WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS TO SHARE ON CANADA-U.S. TRADE SHARE ON CANADA-U.S. TRADE TALKS.
01:00:34TALKS. WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY IN A KEY
01:00:37HAPPENED YESTERDAY IN A KEY MEETING BETWEEN CANADA'S TRADE MEETING BETWEEN CANADA'S TRADE TEAM AND THEIR AMERICAN TEAM AND THEIR AMERICAN COUNTERPART.
01:00:41COUNTERPART. IT COMES AS CANADA HOPES TO
01:00:46IT COMES AS CANADA HOPES TO FORESTALL LEVIES ON HUNDREDS OF FORESTALL LEVIES ON HUNDREDS OF CANADIAN IMPORTS.
01:00:50CANADIAN IMPORTS. KATE McKENNA IS IN WASHINGTON KATE McKENNA IS IN WASHINGTON AND JOINS ME NOW LIVE.
01:00:53AND JOINS ME NOW LIVE. KATE, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED KATE, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT WHAT CAME OUT OF THE ABOUT WHAT CAME OUT OF THE TALKS?
01:00:57TALKS? >> Reporter: WELL, WE KNOW THAT
01:01:00THE U.S. MADE A PROPOSAL YESTERDAY AND IN CANADA'S VIEW YESTERDAY AND IN CANADA'S VIEW IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT AT THIS