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00:00:33>> CANADA IS MOVING CLOSER TO A CRUCIAL DEADLINE, A NEW ROUND OF
00:00:37CRUCIAL DEADLINE, A NEW ROUND OF PUNISHING U.S. TARIFFS IS SLATED PUNISHING U.S. TARIFFS IS SLATED TO TAKE EFFECT IN LESS THAN A
00:00:40TO TAKE EFFECT IN LESS THAN A WEEK. WEEK. CANADA'S TRADE TEAM IS STILL IN
00:00:44CANADA'S TRADE TEAM IS STILL IN WASHINGTON, HOPING TO STOP THAT WASHINGTON, HOPING TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING.
00:00:47FROM HAPPENING. BUT THERE ARE SIGNS THIS MORNING BUT THERE ARE SIGNS THIS MORNING THAT A POTENTIAL TRADE DEAL MAY
00:00:50THAT A POTENTIAL TRADE DEAL MAY STILL BE OUT OF REACH.
00:00:52STILL BE OUT OF REACH. AS WE LOOK AT OTTAWA AND
00:00:56AS WE LOOK AT OTTAWA AND WASHINGTON, THE TWO CAPITALS WASHINGTON, THE TWO CAPITALS FACING DOWN AGAINST EACH OTHER,
00:01:00FACING DOWN AGAINST EACH OTHER, SOURCES ARE CONFIRMING TO CBC SOURCES ARE CONFIRMING TO CBC NEWS THAT CANADA AND THE U.S.
00:01:04NEWS THAT CANADA AND THE U.S. ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO MAKE A ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO MAKE A DEAL AT THE MOMENT.
00:01:08DEAL AT THE MOMENT. THE SOURCES SAY CANADIAN
00:01:11THE SOURCES SAY CANADIAN OFFICIALS WERE NOT SATISFIED OFFICIALS WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE LATEST OFFER FROM THEIR
00:01:14WITH THE LATEST OFFER FROM THEIR AMERICAN COUNTERPARTS. AMERICAN COUNTERPARTS. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH IS IN OTTAWA.
00:01:18OLIVIA STEFANOVICH IS IN OTTAWA. OLIVIA, WHAT ARE WE LEARNING OLIVIA, WHAT ARE WE LEARNING THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT COUNTER
00:01:22THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT COUNTER OFFER YESTERDAY, AND WHERE TALKS OFFER YESTERDAY, AND WHERE TALKS STAND RIGHT NOW?
00:01:25STAND RIGHT NOW? >> WELL, SUSAN, WE'RE LEARNING >> WELL, SUSAN, WE'RE LEARNING FROM SOURCES WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO
00:01:28FROM SOURCES WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO CBC NEWS WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF CBC NEWS WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THESE TRADE TALKS THAT BOTH
00:01:32THESE TRADE TALKS THAT BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN EXCHANGING COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN EXCHANGING PROPOSALS OVER THE PAST FEW
00:01:35PROPOSALS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS AS THESE TRADE TALKS WEEKS AS THESE TRADE TALKS INTENSIFY, AND AS BOTH COUNTRIES
00:01:38INTENSIFY, AND AS BOTH COUNTRIES STARE DOWN THE AUGUST 19th
00:01:40STARE DOWN THE AUGUST 19th DEADLINE, IN WHICH THE U.S. IS
00:01:42DEADLINE, IN WHICH THE U.S. IS SET TO IMPOSE A NEW 50% LEVY SET TO IMPOSE A NEW 50% LEVY AGAINST HUNDREDS OF CANADIAN
00:01:46AGAINST HUNDREDS OF CANADIAN GOODS. GOODS. NOW, BOTH SIDES ARE TRYING TO
00:01:49NOW, BOTH SIDES ARE TRYING TO GET A PROPOSED DEAL IN FRONT OF GET A PROPOSED DEAL IN FRONT OF U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BY
00:01:52U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BY EARLY NEXT WEEK FOR HIS EARLY NEXT WEEK FOR HIS APPROVAL, THAT THAT WOULD SET
00:01:55APPROVAL, THAT THAT WOULD SET OUT THE NEW TRADING RELATIONSHIP OUT THE NEW TRADING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S.
00:01:58BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S. BUT IN THE LATEST OFFER FROM THE
00:02:00BUT IN THE LATEST OFFER FROM THE AMERICANS, SOURCES TELL CBC NEWS AMERICANS, SOURCES TELL CBC NEWS THAT THE CANADIANS ARE
00:02:04THAT THE CANADIANS ARE UNSATISFIED WITH WHAT THE UNSATISFIED WITH WHAT THE AMERICANS ARE OFFERING, AND HAVE
00:02:08AMERICANS ARE OFFERING, AND HAVE REJECTED THIS LATEST PROPOSAL. REJECTED THIS LATEST PROPOSAL. WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM SOURCE
00:02:11WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM SOURCE SECRETARY OF STATE THAT ONE OF
00:02:14THE MAIN STICKING POINTS HERE IS SECTORIAL TARIFFS. SECTORIAL TARIFFS. REMEMBER, CANADA ISN'T JUST
00:02:17REMEMBER, CANADA ISN'T JUST LOOKING TO AVOID THE NEW TARIFFS LOOKING TO AVOID THE NEW TARIFFS THAT ARE SET TO TAKE EFFECT NEXT
00:02:20THAT ARE SET TO TAKE EFFECT NEXT WEEK, BUT THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING WEEK, BUT THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR RELIEF ON THE TARIFFS THAT
00:02:23FOR RELIEF ON THE TARIFFS THAT HAVE BEEN HITTING THE AUTO,
00:02:26HAVE BEEN HITTING THE AUTO, STEEL, ALUMINUM AND FORESTRY STEEL, ALUMINUM AND FORESTRY INDUSTRIES IN CANADA FOR MORE
00:02:29INDUSTRIES IN CANADA FOR MORE THAN A YEAR NOW. THAN A YEAR NOW. AND THEN THE LATEST OFFER FROM
00:02:32AND THEN THE LATEST OFFER FROM THE U.S., WE'RE HEARING FROM THE U.S., WE'RE HEARING FROM SOURCES THAT THE U.S. WAS SOURCES THAT THE U.S. WAS WILLING TO MAKE SOME
00:02:36WILLING TO MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS, INCLUDING CHANGES CONCESSIONS, INCLUDING CHANGES TO THE BASE RATE OF TARIFFS ON
00:02:39TO THE BASE RATE OF TARIFFS ON AUTOS, BUT WHAT THE AMERICANS AUTOS, BUT WHAT THE AMERICANS WERE OFFERING TO CANADA, JUST
00:02:43WERE OFFERING TO CANADA, JUST WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE NEGOTIATING TEAM FROM OTTAWA.
00:02:47NEGOTIATING TEAM FROM OTTAWA. SO THEY'VE REJECTED THAT, SUSAN. SO THEY'VE REJECTED THAT, SUSAN. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING -- LEARNING,
00:02:50WE'RE ALSO LOOKING -- LEARNING, RATHER, FROM SOURCES ABOUT WHAT RATHER, FROM SOURCES ABOUT WHAT THE AMERICANS ARE LOOKING FOR IN
00:02:54THE AMERICANS ARE LOOKING FOR IN THESE TRADE TALKS, SOME OF THEIR THESE TRADE TALKS, SOME OF THEIR OTHER DEMANDS.
00:02:57OTHER DEMANDS. ONE OTHER THING THAT THE SOURCES ONE OTHER THING THAT THE SOURCES SAY IS THAT THE AMERICANS ARE
00:03:00SAY IS THAT THE AMERICANS ARE LOOKING FOR PREFERENTIAL ACCESS
00:03:02LOOKING FOR PREFERENTIAL ACCESS TO CANADA'S ENERGY AND CRITICAL
00:03:05TO CANADA'S ENERGY AND CRITICAL MINERALS FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. MINERALS FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. AND AS WE'VE REPORTED
00:03:08AND AS WE'VE REPORTED PREVIOUSLY, THE AMERICANS ARE PREVIOUSLY, THE AMERICANS ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR CHANGES TO HOW
00:03:11ALSO LOOKING FOR CHANGES TO HOW DAIRY QUOTAS WORK IN CANADA.
00:03:13DAIRY QUOTAS WORK IN CANADA. SO THE AMERICANS CAN GET MORE SO THE AMERICANS CAN GET MORE ACCESS TO CANADA'S DAIRY MARKET.
00:03:17ACCESS TO CANADA'S DAIRY MARKET. AND ALSO THEY WANT TO SEE
00:03:19AND ALSO THEY WANT TO SEE AMERICAN BOOZE BACK ON CANADIAN AMERICAN BOOZE BACK ON CANADIAN STORE SHELVES, ALTHOUGH OF
00:03:23STORE SHELVES, ALTHOUGH OF COURSE THAT'S A DECISION THAT
00:03:24COURSE THAT'S A DECISION THAT LIES WITH THE PROVINCES.
00:03:27LIES WITH THE PROVINCES. >> Susan: SO WEDNESDAY IS THE >> Susan: SO WEDNESDAY IS THE TARIFF DEADLINE NEXT WEEK.
00:03:30TARIFF DEADLINE NEXT WEEK. THAT'S COMING UP. THAT'S COMING UP. WHERE DO NEGOTIATIONS GO FROM
00:03:34WHERE DO NEGOTIATIONS GO FROM HERE? HERE? WE'RE THURSDAY INTO THE WEEKEND.
00:03:37WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? >> WELL, NO ONE HAS WALKED AWAY >> WELL, NO ONE HAS WALKED AWAY FROM THE TABLE EVEN THOUGH
00:03:40FROM THE TABLE EVEN THOUGH CANADA REJECTED THE AMERICANS' CANADA REJECTED THE AMERICANS' LATEST OFFER.
00:03:44LATEST OFFER. SO BOTH SIDES CONTINUE TO TALK, SO BOTH SIDES CONTINUE TO TALK, THEIR NEGOTIATING TEAMS.
00:03:47THEIR NEGOTIATING TEAMS. THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE FOR CANADA-U.S. TRADE DOMINIC
00:03:50CANADA-U.S. TRADE DOMINIC LeBLANC AND CANADA'S CHIEF LeBLANC AND CANADA'S CHIEF NEGOTIATOR JANICE CHARETTE, THEY
00:03:53NEGOTIATOR JANICE CHARETTE, THEY REMAIN IN WASHINGTON, DC. REMAIN IN WASHINGTON, DC. LEBLANC'S OFFICE HASN'T
00:03:56LEBLANC'S OFFICE HASN'T CONFIRMED ANY MORE HIGH-LEVEL CONFIRMED ANY MORE HIGH-LEVEL MEETINGS, BUT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND
00:04:00MEETINGS, BUT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FROM SOURCE SECRETARY OF STATE FROM SOURCE SECRETARY OF STATE THAT CANADA HAS PLAYED IT CLEAR
00:04:03THAT CANADA HAS PLAYED IT CLEAR TO THE AMERICANS THAT NEXT TO THE AMERICANS THAT NEXT WEDNESDAY, THAT TARIFF DEADLINE WEDNESDAY, THAT TARIFF DEADLINE IS A CLIFF TIGHT MOMENT FOR
00:04:07IS A CLIFF TIGHT MOMENT FOR CANADA. CANADA. AND WE UNDERSTAND FROM SOURCES
00:04:09AND WE UNDERSTAND FROM SOURCES THAT CANADA HAS TOLD THE
00:04:12AMERICANS THAT IF THESE TARIFFS COME INTO EFFECT, THEY WON'T COME INTO EFFECT, THEY WON'T HAVE ANY OPTION BUT TO BASICALLY
00:04:15HAVE ANY OPTION BUT TO BASICALLY END THE TALKS BECAUSE OF PUBLIC END THE TALKS BECAUSE OF PUBLIC ANGER FROM CANADA.
00:04:17ANGER FROM CANADA. NOW, RALPH GOODALL IS A FORMER NOW, RALPH GOODALL IS A FORMER LIBERAL CABINET MINISTER WITH
00:04:21LIBERAL CABINET MINISTER WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. HE NOW SITS ON THE PRIME HE NOW SITS ON THE PRIME MINISTER'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE
00:04:25MINISTER'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR U.S.-CANADA ECONOMIC FOR U.S.-CANADA ECONOMIC RELATIONS. RELATIONS. HE SAYS IT'S A GOOD THING THAT
00:04:29HE SAYS IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THE CANADIANS WALKED AWAY FROM THE CANADIANS WALKED AWAY FROM THE AMERICANS' LATEST OFFER.
00:04:33THE AMERICANS' LATEST OFFER. >> HAVING THAT BACKBONE, HAVING >> HAVING THAT BACKBONE, HAVING THAT COURAGE OF OUR CONVICTIONS,
00:04:36THAT COURAGE OF OUR CONVICTIONS, I THINK IS -- IS EXTREMELY I THINK IS -- IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
00:04:40IMPORTANT. THIS IS THE NITTY-GRITTY OF THIS IS THE NITTY-GRITTY OF NEGOTIATION.
00:04:42NEGOTIATION. WE WANT THE LARGEST AND WE WANT THE LARGEST AND FRUITIEST POSSIBLE MARKET ACCESS
00:04:46FRUITIEST POSSIBLE MARKET ACCESS TO THE UNITED STATES WITH AS TO THE UNITED STATES WITH AS MUCH CERTAINTY AS WE CAN GET FOR
00:04:50MUCH CERTAINTY AS WE CAN GET FOR THE LONG-TERM.
00:04:52THE LONG-TERM. THOSE THREATENED TARIFFS ON
00:04:55THOSE THREATENED TARIFFS ON AUGUST THE 19th WOULD
00:04:58AUGUST THE 19th WOULD CERTAINLY BE COUNTER PRODUCTIVE, CERTAINLY BE COUNTER PRODUCTIVE, AND MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO
00:05:02AND MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE. CONTINUE. SO THAT -- THAT THREAT NEEDS TO SO THAT -- THAT THREAT NEEDS TO GO AWAY.
00:05:06GO AWAY. >> THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE >> THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE SAYS MARK CARNEY IS IN CLOSE
00:05:09SAYS MARK CARNEY IS IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH A TEAM THAT'S IN
00:05:13WASHINGTON, BC, AS CARNEY TAKES SOME PERSONAL TIME THIS WEEK IN SOME PERSONAL TIME THIS WEEK IN ITALY.
00:05:16ITALY. THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE SAYS THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE SAYS CARNEY WILL RETURN TO A FULL
00:05:19CARNEY WILL RETURN TO A FULL SCHEDULE NEXT MONDAY, JUST TWO
00:05:21SCHEDULE NEXT MONDAY, JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE THE TARIFF DEADLINE.
00:05:23DAYS BEFORE THE TARIFF DEADLINE. AND CARNEY SAID BEFORE HE TOOK AND CARNEY SAID BEFORE HE TOOK HOLIDAYS THAT HE'S CONSIDERING
00:05:27HOLIDAYS THAT HE'S CONSIDERING RETALIATION AGAINST THE U.S. IF RETALIATION AGAINST THE U.S. IF THESE NEW TARIFFS TAKE EFFECT,
00:05:30THESE NEW TARIFFS TAKE EFFECT, AND HE'S ASKED THE PROVINCES FOR AND HE'S ASKED THE PROVINCES FOR OPTIONS.
00:05:33OPTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, OLIVIA. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, OLIVIA. WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT IN
00:05:40OTTAWA. >>> ONTARIO'S OPTICIAN PARTIES >>> ONTARIO'S OPTICIAN PARTIES ARE DEMANDING ANSWERS OVER AN
00:05:44ARE DEMANDING ANSWERS OVER AN ALLEGATION THAT THE PROGRESSIVE
00:05:47ALLEGATION THAT THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY PIED ON CONSERVATIVE PARTY PIED ON FORMER PROVINCIAL LIBERAL LEADER FORMER PROVINCIAL LIBERAL LEADER BONNIE CROMBIE.
00:05:51BONNIE CROMBIE. THE ALLEGATIONS SURFACED IN A
00:05:53THE ALLEGATIONS SURFACED IN A REPORT IN THE ONLINE NEWS
00:05:56REPORT IN THE ONLINE NEWS PUBLICATION THE TRILLIUM. PUBLICATION THE TRILLIUM. THE CBC'S MEAGAN FITZPATRICK
00:05:59THE CBC'S MEAGAN FITZPATRICK HAVE IN GUELPH ONTARIO FOR AN HAVE IN GUELPH ONTARIO FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT DATA CENTRES
00:06:03ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT DATA CENTRES AND JOINS US LIVE. AND JOINS US LIVE. MEAGAN, WHAT DID FORD HAVE TO
00:06:06MEAGAN, WHAT DID FORD HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE SPYING ALLEGATION?
00:06:08SAY ABOUT THE SPYING ALLEGATION? >> Reporter: WELL, KARINA, HE >> Reporter: WELL, KARINA, HE DIDN'T DENY THE ALLEGATION THAT
00:06:12DIDN'T DENY THE ALLEGATION THAT WALLS REPORTED IN THE THIS WALLS REPORTED IN THE THIS MORNING'S -- THE TRILLIUM.
00:06:16MORNING'S -- THE TRILLIUM. EARLIER THIS WEEK WEEK, THEY HAD EARLIER THIS WEEK WEEK, THEY HAD REPORTED ON SOME EXPENSES THAT
00:06:19REPORTED ON SOME EXPENSES THAT HAD BEEN FILED BY THE ONTARIO HAD BEEN FILED BY THE ONTARIO P.C. PARTY IN 2023 WHERE THEY
00:06:23P.C. PARTY IN 2023 WHERE THEY LISTED EXPENSES FOR TWO LISTED EXPENSES FOR TWO DIFFERENT HOTELS IN JAMAICA AND
00:06:27DIFFERENT HOTELS IN JAMAICA AND WHEN ASKED TO EXPLAIN THEM, THE WHEN ASKED TO EXPLAIN THEM, THE PARTY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO
00:06:30PARTY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY IN THE WAY OF EXPLANATION SAY IN THE WAY OF EXPLANATION OTHER THAN SAYING THEY WEREN'T
00:06:33OTHER THAN SAYING THEY WEREN'T FOR SOMEBODY'S PERSONAL VACATION FOR SOMEBODY'S PERSONAL VACATION OR PERSONAL REASONS.
00:06:37OR PERSONAL REASONS. THEN THEY UPDATED THEIR THEN THEY UPDATED THEIR REPORTING THIS MORNING AND CITED
00:06:41REPORTING THIS MORNING AND CITED SOURCES REPORTING THAT SOMEONE
00:06:42SOURCES REPORTING THAT SOMEONE HAD BEEN SENT BY THE P.C. PARTY
00:06:45HAD BEEN SENT BY THE P.C. PARTY TO JAMAICA WHERE FORMER ONTARIO TO JAMAICA WHERE FORMER ONTARIO LIBERAL LEADER BONNIE CROMBIE
00:06:48LIBERAL LEADER BONNIE CROMBIE WAS TAKING A PERSONAL VACATION.
00:06:52WAS TAKING A PERSONAL VACATION. NOW WHEN ASKED ABOUT THIS TODAY, NOW WHEN ASKED ABOUT THIS TODAY, PREMIER FORD SAYING HE JUST
00:06:56PREMIER FORD SAYING HE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND FOUND OUT ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND IN THE TRILLIUM REPORTING THEY
00:07:00IN THE TRILLIUM REPORTING THEY HAD QUOTED A SPOKESPERSON FOR HAD QUOTED A SPOKESPERSON FOR FORD'S OFFICE SAYING THE PREMIER
00:07:03FORD'S OFFICE SAYING THE PREMIER DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AT THE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AT THE TIME. TIME. AND FORD SAYING TODAY TALK TO
00:07:07AND FORD SAYING TODAY TALK TO THE PARTY. THE PARTY. CBC HAS REACHED OUT TO THE P.C.
00:07:10CBC HAS REACHED OUT TO THE P.C. PARTY FOR ONTARIO TO ASK SEVERAL
00:07:15PARTY FOR ONTARIO TO ASK SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPORT AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPORT AND HAS NOT HEARD BACK YET BUT
00:07:19HAS NOT HEARD BACK YET BUT PREMIER FORD SAYING IT'S
00:07:20PREMIER FORD SAYING IT'S POLITICS BY WAY OF EXPLANATION
00:07:25BUT HE DID SAY I WOULDN'T DO IT, SEEMINGLY INDICATING HE WOULDN'T SEEMINGLY INDICATING HE WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED OF THIS ACTION HAD
00:07:28HAVE APPROVED OF THIS ACTION HAD HE KNOWN ABOUT IT AT THE TIME. HE KNOWN ABOUT IT AT THE TIME. HE SAID HE DIDN'T APPROVE OF IT.
00:07:32HE SAID HE DIDN'T APPROVE OF IT. WOULDN'T DO T BUT MULTIPLE TIMES WOULDN'T DO T BUT MULTIPLE TIMES SAID IT'S $3,000.
00:07:35SAID IT'S $3,000. IT IS ABOUT $3,000, THE HOTEL IT IS ABOUT $3,000, THE HOTEL EXPENSES FILED BY THE PARTY AND
00:07:39EXPENSES FILED BY THE PARTY AND THEY HAVE TO FILE THESE EXPENSES THEY HAVE TO FILE THESE EXPENSES WITH ELECTIONS ONTARIO AND THEY
00:07:43WITH ELECTIONS ONTARIO AND THEY IN PART HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE
00:07:45IN PART HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST PARTY MONEY,
00:07:47THIS IS NOT JUST PARTY MONEY, POLITICAL PARTIES ARE IN PART POLITICAL PARTIES ARE IN PART FUNDED BY DONATIONS, MEMBERS OF
00:07:50FUNDED BY DONATIONS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, BUT ALSO THEY GET
00:07:52THE PUBLIC, BUT ALSO THEY GET SUBSIDIES THAT ARE FUNDED BY
00:07:55SUBSIDIES THAT ARE FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS, A PER VOTE SUBSIDY. TAXPAYERS, A PER VOTE SUBSIDY. SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL FORD HAD TO
00:07:59SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL FORD HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT, REPEATEDLY SAYING
00:08:02SAY ABOUT IT, REPEATEDLY SAYING TALK TO THE PARTY.
00:08:05TALK TO THE PARTY. AND BONNIE CROMBIE HAS CONFIRMED
00:08:07AND BONNIE CROMBIE HAS CONFIRMED TO CBC NEWS THAT SHE DID TAKE A
00:08:10TO CBC NEWS THAT SHE DID TAKE A VACATION TO JAMAICA IN 2023 AND VACATION TO JAMAICA IN 2023 AND STAYED AT ONE OF THE HOTEL THAT
00:08:13STAYED AT ONE OF THE HOTEL THAT IS THE P.C. PARTY FILED AN
00:08:16IS THE P.C. PARTY FILED AN EXPENSE FOR, BUT BEYOND, THAT EXPENSE FOR, BUT BEYOND, THAT KARINA, SHE'S NOT COMMENTING.
00:08:19KARINA, SHE'S NOT COMMENTING. >> Karina: WHILE WE WAIT TO
00:08:21>> Karina: WHILE WE WAIT TO HEAR FROM THE PARTY, WHAT IS THE HEAR FROM THE PARTY, WHAT IS THE ONTARIO OPPOSITION SAYING ABOUT
00:08:25ONTARIO OPPOSITION SAYING ABOUT THE SPYING ALLEGATION? THE SPYING ALLEGATION? >> Reporter: WELL, THEY'RE
00:08:28>> Reporter: WELL, THEY'RE HAVING PRETTY STRONG REACTIONS HAVING PRETTY STRONG REACTIONS TO THIS REPORTING.
00:08:31TO THIS REPORTING. BOTH THE N.D.P. AND THE LIBERALS BOTH THE N.D.P. AND THE LIBERALS HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT TODAY
00:08:33HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT TODAY SAYING THAT THIS IS CREEPY, SAYING THAT THIS IS CREEPY, DISGUSTING AND THAT IT WENT TOO
00:08:38DISGUSTING AND THAT IT WENT TOO FAR. FAR. NOW POLITICAL PARTIES DO DO WHAT
00:08:40NOW POLITICAL PARTIES DO DO WHAT THEY CALL OPPOSITION RESEARCH ON
00:08:42THEY CALL OPPOSITION RESEARCH ON THEIR POLITICAL OPPONENTS, BUT
00:08:45THEIR POLITICAL OPPONENTS, BUT TO FOLLOW SOMEONE OUT OF THE
00:08:47TO FOLLOW SOMEONE OUT OF THE COUNTRY ON A PERSONAL VACATION,
00:08:49COUNTRY ON A PERSONAL VACATION, THEY SAY IS COMPLETELY
00:08:53THEY SAY IS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE.
00:08:57INAPPROPRIATE. HERE'S M.P. -- LIBERAL M.P.P.
00:09:04HERE'S M.P. -- LIBERAL M.P.P. STEPHANIE SMYTH. STEPHANIE SMYTH. >> NOT ONLY DISTURBING BUT AN >> NOT ONLY DISTURBING BUT AN ABSOLUTE VIOLATION OF SOMEONE'S
00:09:08ABSOLUTE VIOLATION OF SOMEONE'S PRIVACY. PRIVACY. IT GOES BEYOND ORDINARY
00:09:11IT GOES BEYOND ORDINARY POLITICAL OPPOSITION, RESEARCH POLITICAL OPPOSITION, RESEARCH THAT WE KNOW THAT PARTIES DO
00:09:14THAT WE KNOW THAT PARTIES DO WHEN WE SEE SOMEONE ACTUALLY
00:09:17WHEN WE SEE SOMEONE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY FOLLOWING SOMEONE TO
00:09:19PHYSICALLY FOLLOWING SOMEONE TO OBSERVE A POLITICAL OPPONENT IS
00:09:24OBSERVE A POLITICAL OPPONENT IS JUST THE LOWEST OF THE LOW.
00:09:27JUST THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. AND ONTARIANS DESERVE ANSWERS AND ONTARIANS DESERVE ANSWERS ABOUT THIS.
00:09:31ABOUT THIS. WHO AUTHORIZED THIS?
00:09:33WHO AUTHORIZED THIS? WHO APPROVED THIS SPENDING?
00:09:36WHO APPROVED THIS SPENDING? WHO WAS DIRECTING THIS WHO WAS DIRECTING THIS OPERATION?
00:09:39OPERATION? AND WHAT EXACTLY WERE THEY
00:09:41AND WHAT EXACTLY WERE THEY LOOKING FOR?
00:09:45LOOKING FOR? >> Reporter: AND N.D.P. LEADER >> Reporter: AND N.D.P. LEADER MARIT STILES ALSO SPOKE TO
00:09:48MARIT STILES ALSO SPOKE TO REPORTERS ABOUT THIS TODAY. REPORTERS ABOUT THIS TODAY. SIMILARLY CALLING IT CREEPY,
00:09:51SIMILARLY CALLING IT CREEPY, DISTURBING,ING SAYING IT RAISES DISTURBING,ING SAYING IT RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS YOU HEARD
00:09:55A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS YOU HEARD SMYTH SAY THERE, INCLUDING SMYTH SAY THERE, INCLUDING QUESTIONS AROUND SECURITY,
00:09:58QUESTIONS AROUND SECURITY, INCLUDING QUESTIONS AROUND THEY INCLUDING QUESTIONS AROUND THEY SAY HOW FAR DOUG FORD IS WILLING
00:10:02SAY HOW FAR DOUG FORD IS WILLING TO GO TO ATTACK HIS OPPONENTS.
00:10:05TO GO TO ATTACK HIS OPPONENTS. AND THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO
00:10:08AND THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO AUTHORIZED THIS, WHO WAS AUTHORIZED THIS, WHO WAS INVOLVED, WHO WENT TO JAMAICA,
00:10:12INVOLVED, WHO WENT TO JAMAICA, AND WHAT TOTAL EXPENSES WERE
00:10:15AND WHAT TOTAL EXPENSES WERE THERE FOR THIS TRIP? THERE FOR THIS TRIP? BONNIE CROMBIE IS NO LONGER THE
00:10:18BONNIE CROMBIE IS NO LONGER THE ONTARIO LIBERAL LEADER, SHE'S ONTARIO LIBERAL LEADER, SHE'S NOT DIRECTLY AN OPPONENT OF THE
00:10:22NOT DIRECTLY AN OPPONENT OF THE PREMIER ANYMORE, BUT SHE IS PREMIER ANYMORE, BUT SHE IS RUNNING FOR MAYOR RIGHT NOW FOR
00:10:26RUNNING FOR MAYOR RIGHT NOW FOR THE CITY OF MISSISSAUGA. THE CITY OF MISSISSAUGA. THAT'S THE JOB SHE USED TO HOLD
00:10:29THAT'S THE JOB SHE USED TO HOLD BEFORE BECOMING ONTARIO LIBERAL BEFORE BECOMING ONTARIO LIBERAL LEADER AND DOUG FORD HAS OPENLY
00:10:33LEADER AND DOUG FORD HAS OPENLY EXPRESSED HIS OPPOSITION TO HER
00:10:35EXPRESSED HIS OPPOSITION TO HER BEING THE MAYOR OF MISSISSAUGA
00:10:38BEING THE MAYOR OF MISSISSAUGA SAYING HOW HE WOULD SEND IN AN SAYING HOW HE WOULD SEND IN AN ARMY TO DEFEAT HER.
00:10:42ARMY TO DEFEAT HER. SO THAT HAS BEEN CITED BY THE SO THAT HAS BEEN CITED BY THE OPPONENTS TODAY AS WELL, KARINA,
00:10:46OPPONENTS TODAY AS WELL, KARINA, IN TERMS OF THEIR REACTION TO IN TERMS OF THEIR REACTION TO THESE TACTICS THAT WERE
00:10:49THESE TACTICS THAT WERE APPARENTLY USED BY THE P.C. APPARENTLY USED BY THE P.C. PARTY.
00:10:53PARTY. SO WE'RE AWAITING MORE SO WE'RE AWAITING MORE INFORMATION, MORE QUESTIONS FOR INFORMATION, MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE PARTY.
00:10:56THE PARTY. BUT IN TERMS OF THE PREMIER AND BUT IN TERMS OF THE PREMIER AND HIS RESPONSE TO IT, AGAIN, HE
00:10:59HIS RESPONSE TO IT, AGAIN, HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED IT. HE WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED IT. >> Karina: THANKS VERY MUCH
00:11:03>> Karina: THANKS VERY MUCH MEAGAN.
00:11:05THE SCENE. >>> THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT HAS
00:11:08>>> THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT HAS LAUNCHED A FRAMEWORK TO REGULATE
00:11:10LAUNCHED A FRAMEWORK TO REGULATE DATA CENTRES IN THE PROVINCE. DATA CENTRES IN THE PROVINCE. THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMES AS
00:11:14THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMES AS CONCERNS GROW ABOUT THOSE LARGE
00:11:17CONCERNS GROW ABOUT THOSE LARGE ENERGY SAPPING FACILITIES THAT ENERGY SAPPING FACILITIES THAT ARE USED TO POWER ARTIFICIAL
00:11:19ARE USED TO POWER ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE. THE CBC'S MARK CARCASOLE JOINS
00:11:22THE CBC'S MARK CARCASOLE JOINS ME NOW IN STUDIO WITH MORE. ME NOW IN STUDIO WITH MORE. MARK, WHAT DID WE HEAR FROM THE
00:11:25MARK, WHAT DID WE HEAR FROM THE ONTARIO PREMIER? ONTARIO PREMIER? >> Reporter: THIS IS SOMETHING
00:11:28>> Reporter: THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ONTARIO, THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ONTARIO, POLITICAL LEADERS, MUNICIPAL
00:11:31POLITICAL LEADERS, MUNICIPAL LEADERS HAVE CALLED FOR FOR A
00:11:33LEADERS HAVE CALLED FOR FOR A LONG TIME FROM THE PROVINCE.
00:11:36LONG TIME FROM THE PROVINCE. DATA CENTRES IS WERE NOT NEW BUT DATA CENTRES IS WERE NOT NEW BUT ONTARIO AND ACROSS CANADA WE
00:11:39ONTARIO AND ACROSS CANADA WE HAVE SEVERAL SMALLER DATA HAVE SEVERAL SMALLER DATA CENTRES MEANT TO RUN THINGS ON
00:11:41CENTRES MEANT TO RUN THINGS ON THE CLOUD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE CLOUD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WITH THE ADVENT OF A.I., THERE
00:11:44WITH THE ADVENT OF A.I., THERE ARE LARGE SCALE DATA CENTRES ARE LARGE SCALE DATA CENTRES THAT MANY COMPANIES WANT TO THAT MANY COMPANIES WANT TO BUILD.
00:11:48BUILD. THINK OF THE BIGGEST FACTORY YOU THINK OF THE BIGGEST FACTORY YOU CAN THINK OF IT AND MULTIPLY IT CAN THINK OF IT AND MULTIPLY IT SEVERAL TIMES.
00:11:52SEVERAL TIMES. THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS FRAMEWORK BASICALLY IS THE
00:11:54FRAMEWORK BASICALLY IS THE PROVINCE'S WAY OF DICTATING THE
00:11:57PROVINCE'S WAY OF DICTATING THE RULES FOR ANYONE, ANY DEVELOPER, RULES FOR ANYONE, ANY DEVELOPER, INVESTORS WHO WANTS TO BRING A
00:12:01INVESTORS WHO WANTS TO BRING A LARGE SCALE DATA CENTRE INTO LARGE SCALE DATA CENTRE INTO ONTARIO.
00:12:04ONTARIO. THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THE THE PROVINCE SAYS THEY'RE THE THE PROVINCE SAYS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
00:12:08LOOKING FOR. MOST MOATABLY, PREMIER DOUG FORD MOST MOATABLY, PREMIER DOUG FORD SAYS THE PROVINCE WILL MAKE NO
00:12:11SAYS THE PROVINCE WILL MAKE NO FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT INVESTORS.
00:12:14INVESTORS. HE SPOKE ABOUT DATA SOVEREIGNTY, HE SPOKE ABOUT DATA SOVEREIGNTY, RULES FOR CONNECTING TO THE RULES FOR CONNECTING TO THE GRID.
00:12:18GRID. HE WANTS THESE CENTRES TO PAY HE WANTS THESE CENTRES TO PAY FOR EVERY BIT OF ELECTRICITY
00:12:21FOR EVERY BIT OF ELECTRICITY THEY USE. THEY USE. LET'S HEAR WHAT PREMIER FORD HAD LET'S HEAR WHAT PREMIER FORD HAD TO SAY.
00:12:25TO SAY. >> Premier Doug Ford: ONTARIO >> Premier Doug Ford: ONTARIO WILL NOT OFFER FINANCIAL WILL NOT OFFER FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT
00:12:28INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT INVESTMENTS. INVESTMENTS. INSTEAD WE WILL RELY ON OUR
00:12:31INSTEAD WE WILL RELY ON OUR NATURAL COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE
00:12:33NATURAL COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE INCLUDING OUR CLEAN AND RELIABLE
00:12:36INCLUDING OUR CLEAN AND RELIABLE ELECTRICITY SYSTEM, AVAILABLE
00:12:38ELECTRICITY SYSTEM, AVAILABLE LAND, COOL CLIMATE AND LAND, COOL CLIMATE AND WORLD-CLASS WORK FORCE.
00:12:41WORLD-CLASS WORK FORCE. WE WILL ONLY ADVANCE PROJECTS
00:12:44WE WILL ONLY ADVANCE PROJECTS THAT STRENGTHEN ONTARIO AND THAT STRENGTHEN ONTARIO AND CANADA'S CONTROL OVER SENSITIVE
00:12:48CANADA'S CONTROL OVER SENSITIVE DATA. DATA. >> Reporter: PREMIER FORD SAYS
00:12:50>> Reporter: PREMIER FORD SAYS THEY'LL ALSO ONLY INVEST IN THEY'LL ALSO ONLY INVEST IN PROJECTS THAT INVEST BACK IN THE
00:12:54PROJECTS THAT INVEST BACK IN THE COMMUNITY, BRING JOBS, ABIDE BY COMMUNITY, BRING JOBS, ABIDE BY ONTARIO'S ENVIRONMENTAL
00:12:57ONTARIO'S ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND RESPONSIBLE WATER STANDARDS AND RESPONSIBLE WATER USE. USE. THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT FOR THIS
00:13:01THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT FOR THIS FRAMEWORK ALSO TALKS ABOUT NOISE
00:13:03FRAMEWORK ALSO TALKS ABOUT NOISE REDUCING TECHNOLOGY AND WASTE REDUCING TECHNOLOGY AND WASTE HEAT RECOVERY TO POSSIBLY HEAT
00:13:07HEAT RECOVERY TO POSSIBLY HEAT NEARBY BUILDINGS. NEARBY BUILDINGS. THIS WILL GO OUT NOW STARTING
00:13:10THIS WILL GO OUT NOW STARTING TODAY FOR A 30 DAY PUBLIC TODAY FOR A 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
00:13:13COMMENT PERIOD. IT'S A DIFFERENT TACTIC THAN IN IT'S A DIFFERENT TACTIC THAN IN ALBERTA FOR EXAMPLE WHERE THEY
00:13:17ALBERTA FOR EXAMPLE WHERE THEY HAVE A $13 BILLION DATA CENTRE HAVE A $13 BILLION DATA CENTRE SIGNED ON FOR BY META.
00:13:21SIGNED ON FOR BY META. THEY ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO
00:13:23THEY ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO BRING IN INVESTORS AND DATA
00:13:25BRING IN INVESTORS AND DATA CENTRE DEVELOPERS COURTING THEM
00:13:28CENTRE DEVELOPERS COURTING THEM WITH CHEAPER ELECTRICITY, LOOSER WITH CHEAPER ELECTRICITY, LOOSER ENERGY RULES.
00:13:31ENERGY RULES. ALBERTA IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING ALBERTA IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THE DOOR'S OPEN. THE DOOR'S OPEN. C'MON IN.
00:13:34C'MON IN. >> VERY DIFFERENT. >> VERY DIFFERENT. NOW THE MUNICIPALITIES STILL
00:13:37NOW THE MUNICIPALITIES STILL HAVE THE POWER TO WEIGH IN OP ON HAVE THE POWER TO WEIGH IN OP ON THIS.
00:13:40THIS. HOW ARE THEY REACTING TO THE HOW ARE THEY REACTING TO THE POSSIBILITY OF THE DATA CENTRES?
00:13:43POSSIBILITY OF THE DATA CENTRES? >> Reporter: SOME STARTING >> Reporter: SOME STARTING FLEXING THAT PARTY.
00:13:46FLEXING THAT PARTY. OAKVILLE HAS BECOME THE FIRST OAKVILLE HAS BECOME THE FIRST MUNICIPALITY IN CANADA TO PUT A
00:13:49MUNICIPALITY IN CANADA TO PUT A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON THE ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON THE CREATION OF ANY DATA CENTRES
00:13:52CREATION OF ANY DATA CENTRES WITHIN ITS TOWN LIMITS. WITHIN ITS TOWN LIMITS. MISSISSAUGA NEARBY IS EXPECTED
00:13:56MISSISSAUGA NEARBY IS EXPECTED TO VOTE ON THAT RELATIVELY SOON. TO VOTE ON THAT RELATIVELY SOON. IN TORONTO, AND WATERLOO REGION,
00:14:00IN TORONTO, AND WATERLOO REGION, THEY'VE STOPPED SHORT OF PUTTING THEY'VE STOPPED SHORT OF PUTTING IN A MORATORIUM.
00:14:02IN A MORATORIUM. BUT DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK INTO
00:14:05BUT DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT AND POSSIBLY ADVOCATE THE IT AND POSSIBLY ADVOCATE THE PROVINCE FOR A FRAMEWORK LIKE
00:14:09PROVINCE FOR A FRAMEWORK LIKE THE ONE THEY'RE SEEING NOW AND
00:14:10THE ONE THEY'RE SEEING NOW AND THEN IN HAMILTON, ONTARIO, THERE THEN IN HAMILTON, ONTARIO, THERE WAS A VOTE.
00:14:14WAS A VOTE. THERE WAS A LARGE SCALE PROTEST THERE WAS A LARGE SCALE PROTEST BEFORE THAT VOTE.
00:14:17BEFORE THAT VOTE. THE COUNCIL CHAMBER WAS PACKED.
00:14:18THE COUNCIL CHAMBER WAS PACKED. CITY COUNCIL IN HAMILTON DECIDED
00:14:22CITY COUNCIL IN HAMILTON DECIDED TO FOREGO A MORATORIUM.
00:14:27TO FOREGO A MORATORIUM. PREMIER FORD SPOKE ON THE PREMIER FORD SPOKE ON THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND THEIR
00:14:31VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND THEIR STANCES ON THIS AS WELL. STANCES ON THIS AS WELL. >> Premier Doug Ford: IF
00:14:33>> Premier Doug Ford: IF SOMEONE SAID, OKAY, YOU'RE NOT
00:14:37SOMEONE SAID, OKAY, YOU'RE NOT HAVING A DATA CENTRE BUT AREN'T
00:14:39HAVING A DATA CENTRE BUT AREN'T GETTING DATA AND USING SOCIAL
00:14:41GETTING DATA AND USING SOCIAL MEDIA, PEOPLE WILL FLIP.
00:14:44MEDIA, PEOPLE WILL FLIP. YOU CAN'T HAVE NIMBYISM.
00:14:48YOU CAN'T HAVE NIMBYISM. THEY'RE NOT BAD. THEY'RE NOT BAD. THEY'VE COME SO FAR.
00:14:51THEY'VE COME SO FAR. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOOD. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOOD. REALLY GOOD.
00:14:55REALLY GOOD. BUT WE WANT ALL THE BENEFITS, BUT WE WANT ALL THE BENEFITS, BUT WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO
00:14:58BUT WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. WITH IT. >> THE PREMIER SAYS THE PROVINCE >> THE PREMIER SAYS THE PROVINCE WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS WITH
00:15:02WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS WITH MUNICIPAL LEADERS NEXT WEEK AT MUNICIPAL LEADERS NEXT WEEK AT THE CONFERENCE OF THE
00:15:05THE CONFERENCE OF THE ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPALITIES OF ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPALITIES OF ONTARIO TO SORT OF GIVE THEM A ONTARIO TO SORT OF GIVE THEM A CLEARER PICTURE.
00:15:08CLEARER PICTURE. >> Karina: THANKS, MARK. >> Karina: THANKS, MARK. >> T
00:15:11The newly unsealed documents include search warrants,
00:15:14production orders and sealing orders. Now,
00:15:17the pages are largely redacted, as you can see here,
00:15:20but they do in part provide a snapshot into what happened
00:15:24that day when a shooter killed eight people in Tumblr Ridge
00:15:28and what evidence police sought in their investigation. The
00:15:31document say the morning of February 10th,
00:15:34RCMP responded to a string of 911 calls,
00:15:37first at the home of the shooter,
00:15:39which the documents identify as
00:15:4118 year old Jesse Van Rootselaar. One caller reported
00:15:442 dead bodies and shotgun shells on the floor inside the
00:15:48suspect's home and they thought the suspect was armed and had
00:15:52left. The police also took calls reporting a vehicle
00:15:55driving quickly and erratically from the home to Tumblr Ridge
00:15:59Secondary School. The document then describes sequence by
00:16:02sequence accounting of officers arriving on scene,
00:16:05hearing shots fired and entering the school. The
00:16:08document reads police were shot at by the suspect
00:16:12which caused them to hold while being shot at. Officers recount
00:16:16finding 6 victims at the school, plus the shooter who died of a
00:16:19self-inflicted gunshot wound. Now,
00:16:21it's not clear how much time elapsed throughout this
00:16:25sequence of events as time stamps were redacted. But the
00:16:28documents also laid out what evidence police sought in their
00:16:32investigation, which included computers,
00:16:34cell phones and cameras that may have belonged to Van
00:16:38Rootselaar. It also outlined when RCMP was notified of the
00:16:41two chat CPT accounts believed to be used by Van Rootselaar,
00:16:45that section was heavily redacted with nearly 7 pages of
00:16:49text fully blacked out. But it does say quote. Jesse's ChatGPT
00:16:53account was subject to an internal review in June of 2025
00:16:57after Jesse's chat conversation discussed matters that could be
00:17:01related to the school shooting and open AI ban Jesse Chachi BT
00:17:05account and did not notify police at the time. Now,
00:17:09up until this point, these documents have been
00:17:12sealed due to an application from police stating concerns that it
00:17:16could compromise the ongoing investigation. Now,
00:17:19the media consortium has been in court this week to argue for
00:17:23the redacted information to be made public. Jessica Chung,
00:17:26CBC News, North Vancouver.
00:17:30OTTAWA. THANKS. THANKS. >>> NOW TO LATEST ON BRITISH >>> NOW TO LATEST ON BRITISH COLUMBIA'S WILDFIRE
00:17:35COLUMBIA'S WILDFIRE EMERGENCY. EMERGENCY. PREMIER DAVID EBY SAYS THE
00:17:37PREMIER DAVID EBY SAYS THE PROVINCE'S EMERGENCY SER PROVINCE'S EMERGENCY SER SERVICES WERE OVERWHELMED BY
00:17:40SERVICES WERE OVERWHELMED BY THE SPEED OF THE BALD RANGE THE SPEED OF THE BALD RANGE WILDFIRE THAT'S BURNING NEAR
00:17:44WILDFIRE THAT'S BURNING NEAR THE OKANAGAN COMMUNITY OF THE OKANAGAN COMMUNITY OF SUMMERLAND. SUMMERLAND. EBY HAS PROMISED A REVIEW OF
00:17:48EBY HAS PROMISED A REVIEW OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO DETERMINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS
00:17:51DETERMINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY. ARE NECESSARY. THAT INCLUDES THE NEED FOR
00:17:54THAT INCLUDES THE NEED FOR ALTERNATIVE ROUTES TO ALTERNATIVE ROUTES TO HIGHWAY 97.
00:17:57HIGHWAY 97. THAT ROAD IS THE ONLY DIRECT THAT ROAD IS THE ONLY DIRECT PAVED NORTH-SOUTH ROUTE
00:18:00PAVED NORTH-SOUTH ROUTE THROUGH THE OKANAGAN VALLEY. THROUGH THE OKANAGAN VALLEY. BUT HAS BEEN CLOSED, DUE TO
00:18:03BUT HAS BEEN CLOSED, DUE TO THE BALD RANGE FIRE. THE BALD RANGE FIRE. >>> SO FOR MORE ON THIS
00:18:06>>> SO FOR MORE ON THIS STOREY, LET'S GO NOW TO STOREY, LET'S GO NOW TO VANCOUVER AND BRING IN THE
00:18:09VANCOUVER AND BRING IN THE CBC'S MICHELLE ALLEN. CBC'S MICHELLE ALLEN. MICHELLE, PREMIER EBY IS
00:18:12MICHELLE, PREMIER EBY IS PROMISEING THAT REVIEW OF PROMISEING THAT REVIEW OF BOTH FIRE ASSESSMENT AND
00:18:15BOTH FIRE ASSESSMENT AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE. EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WHAT IS THE REASONING HERE?
00:18:18WHAT IS THE REASONING HERE? >> Reporter: WELL, AARTI, >> Reporter: WELL, AARTI, THIS BALD RANGE WILDFIRE IS
00:18:22THIS BALD RANGE WILDFIRE IS ONE OF THE MOST VOLATILE ONE OF THE MOST VOLATILE WILDFIRES B.C. HAS EVER WILDFIRES B.C. HAS EVER FACED.
00:18:26FACED. RAN ALL THE WILDFIRE SERVICE RAN ALL THE WILDFIRE SERVICE MODELS THAT MEANT TO PREDICT
00:18:29MODELS THAT MEANT TO PREDICT HOW FAST FIRES GROW AND HOW FAST FIRES GROW AND SPREAD. SPREAD. THIS MEANT THERE WASN'T ANY
00:18:32THIS MEANT THERE WASN'T ANY TIME TO ISSUE EVACUATION TIME TO ISSUE EVACUATION ALERTS.
00:18:34ALERTS. EBY SAID THERE WAS A HUGE DEMAND FOR SERVICE THAT'S WERE JUST NOT READY FOR A
00:18:39WERE JUST NOT READY FOR A DISASTER OF THIS SCALE. DISASTER OF THIS SCALE. THAT'S WHY EBY'S PROMISES
00:18:41THAT'S WHY EBY'S PROMISES AFTER-ACTION REVIEW INTO THE AFTER-ACTION REVIEW INTO THE BALD RANGE FIRE RESPONSE.
00:18:44BALD RANGE FIRE RESPONSE. ALL AGENCIES INVOLVED WOULD ALL AGENCIES INVOLVED WOULD MEET TO DISCUSS WHAT MEET TO DISCUSS WHAT HAPPENED IN WAYS THEY COULD
00:18:48HAPPENED IN WAYS THEY COULD IMPROVE IN THE FUTURE. IMPROVE IN THE FUTURE. >> THERE'S AN IMPORTANT SET
00:18:51>> THERE'S AN IMPORTANT SET OF LESSONS FOR US TO TAKE
00:18:53ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THIS MOVED, AND THIS MAY BE OUR
00:18:55MOVED, AND THIS MAY BE OUR NEW NORMAL FOR FIRE SPEED,
00:18:58NEW NORMAL FOR FIRE SPEED, AND THAT CRUCIAL PIECE WORK AND THAT CRUCIAL PIECE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS AN
00:19:02THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS AN AFTER-ACTION REVIEW, WHICH
00:19:04AFTER-ACTION REVIEW, WHICH WE WILL DO TO DETERMINE HOW
00:19:07WE WILL DO TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN BE AS PREPARED AS WE CAN BE AS PREPARED AS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THE
00:19:10POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THE SUPPORTS ARE THERE. SUPPORTS ARE THERE. >> Reporter: ALL THAT BEING
00:19:13>> Reporter: ALL THAT BEING SAID, EBY SAID HE'S BEEN SAID, EBY SAID HE'S BEEN IMPRESSED BY RESPONSE, IMPRESSED BY RESPONSE, CONSIDERING HOW FAST THE
00:19:17CONSIDERING HOW FAST THE FIRE MOVED AND HOW LITTLE FIRE MOVED AND HOW LITTLE TIME AUTHORITIES.
00:19:20TIME AUTHORITIES. THESE ARE SMALL COMMUNITIES THESE ARE SMALL COMMUNITIES THAT AREN'T BUILD TO MANAGE
00:19:24THAT AREN'T BUILD TO MANAGE THOUSANDS OF EVACUEES ON THOUSANDS OF EVACUEES ON SHORT NOTICE LIKE THIS.
00:19:26SHORT NOTICE LIKE THIS. HE SAID THE VOLUNTEERS, HE SAID THE VOLUNTEERS, EMERGENCY PERSONNEL AND
00:19:29EMERGENCY PERSONNEL AND LOCAL LEADERS HAVE DONE AN LOCAL LEADERS HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB RESPONDING TO INCREDIBLE JOB RESPONDING TO THIS CRISIS.
00:19:33THIS CRISIS. WE ALSO HEARD FROM CHIEF WE ALSO HEARD FROM CHIEF GREG GABRIEL OF THE GREG GABRIEL OF THE PENTICTON INDIAN BAND
00:19:37PENTICTON INDIAN BAND YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY. HE SAID WE NEED TO DO MORE
00:19:40HE SAID WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN JUST RESPONSE TO THE THAN JUST RESPONSE TO THE FIRE.
00:19:44FIRE. HE'S CALLING FOR ACTION ON HE'S CALLING FOR ACTION ON WHY WILDFIRESET WORSE AND
00:19:47WHY WILDFIRESET WORSE AND WORSE AND MORE DESTRUCTIVE WORSE AND MORE DESTRUCTIVE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
00:19:50EVERY SINGLE YEAR. HERE'S WHAT GABRIEL TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT GABRIEL TO SAY, SOLUTIONS.
00:19:53SOLUTIONS. >> THESE WEATHER EVENTS NOT >> THESE WEATHER EVENTS NOT A NATURAL PHENOMENON.
00:19:56A NATURAL PHENOMENON. EACH AND EVERY YEAR, WE DEAL
00:19:58EACH AND EVERY YEAR, WE DEAL WITH SAME SITUATION, LIKE
00:20:01WITH SAME SITUATION, LIKE WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY
00:20:02WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS TRYING TO FIX THESE
00:20:06PROGRESS TRYING TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS. PROBLEMS. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE
00:20:08I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE USE OUR VOICES TO GET THE
00:20:13USE OUR VOICES TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND START COMING MESSAGE OUT AND START COMING TOGETHER, AND START LOOKING
00:20:16TOGETHER, AND START LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER
00:20:18AT WAYS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FIX PROBLEMS.
00:20:21TO FIX PROBLEMS. FIRST NATIONS NEED TO BE FIRST NATIONS NEED TO BE PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS
00:20:23PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS INTO CHIEF GABRIEL CALLED INTO CHIEF GABRIEL CALLED FOR MORE SCRUTINY TO
00:20:26FOR MORE SCRUTINY TO INDUSTRIES THAT COULD BE INDUSTRIES THAT COULD BE INCREASING THE RISK AND INCREASING THE RISK AND SEVERITY OF FIRES.
00:20:30SEVERITY OF FIRES. HE SAYS WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT
00:20:32HE SAYS WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO CHANGE, BUT SOMETIMES HE
00:20:35TO CHANGE, BUT SOMETIMES HE THINKS IT MAY ALREADY BE TOO THINKS IT MAY ALREADY BE TOO LATE. LATE. >> Aarti: OF COURSE, ONE
00:20:39>> Aarti: OF COURSE, ONE PART OF THE STOREY IS THE PART OF THE STOREY IS THE LESSONS BEING LEARNED, AS LESSONS BEING LEARNED, AS THIS STOREY CONTINUES TO
00:20:43THIS STOREY CONTINUES TO DEVELOP. DEVELOP. BUT WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM SO BUT WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING
00:20:47MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THESE AREAS THAT HAVE HAD IN THESE AREAS THAT HAVE HAD TO WATCH THAT DEVASTATION TO WATCH THAT DEVASTATION UNFOLD AS IMPACTS THEIR
00:20:50UNFOLD AS IMPACTS THEIR HOMES. HOMES. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT DAMAGE WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS HAPPENING, FOR
00:20:54ASSESSMENTS HAPPENING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN COMMUNITIES LIKE EXAMPLE, IN COMMUNITIES LIKE SUMMERLAND? SUMMERLAND? >> Reporter: WELL, WE KNOW
00:20:58>> Reporter: WELL, WE KNOW THAT THE IRE HAS DESTROYED THAT THE IRE HAS DESTROYED MULTIPLE HOMES -- FIRE HAS
00:21:01MULTIPLE HOMES -- FIRE HAS DESTROYED MULTIPLE HOMES, DESTROYED MULTIPLE HOMES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.
00:21:04BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. THEY ARE STILL TAKING STOCK THEY ARE STILL TAKING STOCK OF ALL THE LOSSES. OF ALL THE LOSSES. THE PROVINCE IS CALLING IN
00:21:08THE PROVINCE IS CALLING IN THE HEAVY URBAN THE HEAVY URBAN SEARCH-AND-RESCUE, WHICH IS SEARCH-AND-RESCUE, WHICH IS A SPECIALIZED DISASTER
00:21:11A SPECIALIZED DISASTER RESPONSE TEAM, WHO WILL BE RESPONSE TEAM, WHO WILL BE DOING ASSESS HMTS SU
00:21:14DOING ASSESS HMTS SU SUMMERLAND. SUMMERLAND. THEY WILL BE NOTIFYING THEY WILL BE NOTIFYING PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOMES
00:21:18PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOMES DIRECTLY. DIRECTLY. WHILE MANY ANXIOUS TO FIND WHILE MANY ANXIOUS TO FIND OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE,
00:21:22OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT KELLY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT KELLY GREENE SAYS THEY WANT TO
00:21:24GREENE SAYS THEY WANT TO HANDLE THIS IN A SENSITIVE HANDLE THIS IN A SENSITIVE WAY.
00:21:27WAY. >> THE LAST THING I WOULD >> THE LAST THING I WOULD WANT IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY WANT IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY FINDING OUT THE SHOCK ON
00:21:31FINDING OUT THE SHOCK ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR TELEVISION SOCIAL MEDIA OR TELEVISION ABOUT THEIR HOME BEING LOST.
00:21:34ABOUT THEIR HOME BEING LOST. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE ARE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE ARE ABLE TO CONNECT DIRECTLY ABLE TO CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THE
00:21:38WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THEIR HOMES. CONDITION OF THEIR HOMES. THAT WORK IS ONGOING, AND AS
00:21:41THAT WORK IS ONGOING, AND AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE, WE WILL SOON AS WE'RE ABLE, WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO
00:21:44GET THAT INFORMATION TO PEOPLE. PEOPLE. >> Reporter: EMERGENCY >> Reporter: EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTRE DIRECTORS
00:21:48OPERATION CENTRE DIRECTORS SAY WE'RE STILL A WAYS AWAY SAY WE'RE STILL A WAYS AWAY FROM PEOPLE FROM PEOPLE
00:21:52FROM PEOPLE FROM PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO RETURN BEING ABLE TO RETURN SUMMERLAND.
00:21:55SUMMERLAND. DEBRIS NEEDS TO BE CLEARED DEBRIS NEEDS TO BE CLEARED AND ENERGY NEEDS TO BE AND ENERGY NEEDS TO BE RESTORED.
00:21:58RESTORED. IN TERMS OF THE WOMAN WHO IN TERMS OF THE WOMAN WHO DIED WHILE TRYING TO FLEE
00:22:01DIED WHILE TRYING TO FLEE THE FIRE, THE RCMP SAY THEY THE FIRE, THE RCMP SAY THEY ARE INVESTIGATING THE ARE INVESTIGATING THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND HER
00:22:05CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND HER DEATH. DEATH. SINCE THE INVESTIGATION IS SINCE THE INVESTIGATION IS STILL IN VERY EARLY STAGES,
00:22:09STILL IN VERY EARLY STAGES, BUT OFFICER IN CHARGE OF THE BUT OFFICER IN CHARGE OF THE PENTICTON RCMP SAY POLICE
00:22:11PENTICTON RCMP SAY POLICE ARE PROGRESSING AND PUSHING ARE PROGRESSING AND PUSHING FORWARD TO GET ANSWERS FOR FORWARD TO GET ANSWERS FOR HER FAMILY.
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00:24:38REDACTED INFORMATION TO BE MADE PUBLIC. PUBLIC. >> THE ISRAELI MILITARY IS
00:24:42>> THE ISRAELI MILITARY IS MOVING IN ON THE OCCUPIED WEST
00:24:44MOVING IN ON THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK THIS MORNING AS THE JEWISH
00:24:47BANK THIS MORNING AS THE JEWISH SETTLER SIEGE OF PALESTINIAN
00:24:50SETTLER SIEGE OF PALESTINIAN HOMES REACHES ANOTHER FLASH
00:24:53HOMES REACHES ANOTHER FLASH POINT. POINT. >>> THIS IS SECURITY FOOTAGE
00:24:56>>> THIS IS SECURITY FOOTAGE SHOWING A RARE CONFRONTATION
00:24:57SHOWING A RARE CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE IDF AND ISRAELI
00:25:02BETWEEN THE IDF AND ISRAELI SETTLERS TAKEN HOURS BEFORE SETTLERS TAKEN HOURS BEFORE ISRAEL DEPLOYED MORE TROOPS TO
00:25:06ISRAEL DEPLOYED MORE TROOPS TO THE WEST BANK AFTER FAILING TO THE WEST BANK AFTER FAILING TO FORCE AWAY SETTLERS.
00:25:09FORCE AWAY SETTLERS. >> LET'S BRING IN JULIA CHAPMAN
00:25:12>> LET'S BRING IN JULIA CHAPMAN IN LONDON. IN LONDON. WHAT IS THE ISRAELI MILITARY
00:25:15WHAT IS THE ISRAELI MILITARY DOING IN THE WEST BANK TODAY? DOING IN THE WEST BANK TODAY? >> Reporter: ISRAELI DEFENCE
00:25:19>> Reporter: ISRAELI DEFENCE FORCES HAVE CONFIRMs TO CBC NEWS FORCES HAVE CONFIRMs TO CBC NEWS THEY ARE SENDING IN MORE TROOPS
00:25:23THEY ARE SENDING IN MORE TROOPS TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION IN
00:25:26TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION IN AND AROUND THE VILLAGE.
00:25:28AND AROUND THE VILLAGE. PALESTINIAN FAMILIES DESCRIBE PALESTINIAN FAMILIES DESCRIBE BEING TRAPPED IN THEIR HOMES
00:25:32BEING TRAPPED IN THEIR HOMES AFTER ISRAELI SETTLERS ARRIVED
00:25:34AFTER ISRAELI SETTLERS ARRIVED ON SUNDAY SETTING UP TENTS AND
00:25:37ON SUNDAY SETTING UP TENTS AND BLOCKADING ENTRANCES. BLOCKADING ENTRANCES. ONE RESIDENT TOLD THE REUTERS
00:25:41ONE RESIDENT TOLD THE REUTERS NEWS AGENCY THAT THE SETTLERS
00:25:44NEWS AGENCY THAT THE SETTLERS ATTACKED HER HOME AND CUT IT OFF
00:25:47ATTACKED HER HOME AND CUT IT OFF FROM WATER AND ELECTRICITY. FROM WATER AND ELECTRICITY. BBC AND THE GUARDIAN HAVE
00:25:50BBC AND THE GUARDIAN HAVE REPORTED THE FAMILIES ARE
00:25:51REPORTED THE FAMILIES ARE RUNNING OUT OF FOOD SUPPLIES.
00:25:54RUNNING OUT OF FOOD SUPPLIES. THE ISRAELI MILITARY HAS SENT IN
00:25:58THE ISRAELI MILITARY HAS SENT IN TROOPS TO BRING THE SITUATION
00:26:02TROOPS TO BRING THE SITUATION UNDER CONTROL.
00:26:05UNDER CONTROL. YESTERDAY, THERE WERE CLASHES YESTERDAY, THERE WERE CLASHES BETWEEN THEM WITH SOLDIERS USING
00:26:09BETWEEN THEM WITH SOLDIERS USING TEAR GAS TO DISPERSE THE TEAR GAS TO DISPERSE THE SETTLERS.
00:26:11SETTLERS. BUT THE SETTLERS HAVEN'T LEFT.
00:26:13BUT THE SETTLERS HAVEN'T LEFT. AND TODAY THE IDF SAYS ONE
00:26:16AND TODAY THE IDF SAYS ONE ISRAELI HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND
00:26:18ISRAELI HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND SOME ILLEGAL OUTPOSTS HAVE BEEN
00:26:22SOME ILLEGAL OUTPOSTS HAVE BEEN DISMANTLED.
00:26:23DISMANTLED. THE IDF SOLDIERS OF THE 51st BA
00:26:29THE IDF SOLDIERS OF THE 51st BA TAALIAN A-- BATTALION ARRIVED TO
00:26:33TAALIAN A-- BATTALION ARRIVED TO THE AREA.
00:26:35THE AREA. U.S. AMBASSADOR TOLL ISRAEL MIKE
00:26:38U.S. AMBASSADOR TOLL ISRAEL MIKE HUCKABEE CALLING THE SETTLERS
00:26:43HUCKABEE CALLING THE SETTLERS TERRORISTS. TERRORISTS. IT'S UNUSUAL TO HEAR HIM
00:26:47DEFENDING PALESTINIANS, WHICH I THINK UNDERLINES JUST HOW THINK UNDERLINES JUST HOW SERIOUS THE SITUATION IN THE
00:26:51SERIOUS THE SITUATION IN THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK HAS BECOME.
00:26:52OCCUPIED WEST BANK HAS BECOME. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT DAY 5 OF
00:26:55>> WE ARE LOOKING AT DAY 5 OF THIS PARTICULAR SETTLER SIEGE. THIS PARTICULAR SETTLER SIEGE. THE VIOLENCE IN THE WEST BANK
00:26:59THE VIOLENCE IN THE WEST BANK REGARDING SETTLERS DIDN'T BEGIN
00:27:00REGARDING SETTLERS DIDN'T BEGIN JUST ON SUNDAY, OF COURSE.
00:27:03JUST ON SUNDAY, OF COURSE. GIVE US SOME CONTEXT ON THIS.
00:27:06GIVE US SOME CONTEXT ON THIS. >> ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS IN THE >> ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS IN THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK ARE ILLEGAL
00:27:10OCCUPIED WEST BANK ARE ILLEGAL UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL LAW. UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL LAW. THEY ARE GROWING IN NUMBER.
00:27:13THEY ARE GROWING IN NUMBER. THE UNITED NATIONS SAYS VIOLENCE THE UNITED NATIONS SAYS VIOLENCE AGAINST PALESTINIANS IS RISING.
00:27:16AGAINST PALESTINIANS IS RISING. THE SITUATION WAS DISCUSSED AT THE SITUATION WAS DISCUSSED AT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL
00:27:20THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS WEEK WHERE DEPUTY
00:27:22EARLIER THIS WEEK WHERE DEPUTY SPECIAL COORDINATOR GAVE HIS
00:27:26SPECIAL COORDINATOR GAVE HIS ASSESSMENT.
00:27:27ASSESSMENT. >> FRAGILE CEASE-FIRE IN GAZA
00:27:31>> FRAGILE CEASE-FIRE IN GAZA AND REGIONAL INTENTIONS CAN
00:27:33AND REGIONAL INTENTIONS CAN CONSUME MUCH OF THE
00:27:35CONSUME MUCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S CONCESSION.
00:27:39CONCESSION. THIS HAS NOT BEEN A SUDDEN THIS HAS NOT BEEN A SUDDEN DETERIORATION.
00:27:41DETERIORATION. THERE IS ALSO THE DECADE OF
00:27:43THERE IS ALSO THE DECADE OF UNRESOLVED CONFLICT THAT HAS
00:27:46UNRESOLVED CONFLICT THAT HAS DEEPENED THE UNLAWFUL ISRAELI
00:27:51DEEPENED THE UNLAWFUL ISRAELI OCCUPATION.
00:27:55OCCUPATION. >> THE ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE
00:27:57>> THE ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N. SAYS CRITICISM OF ISRAELI
00:27:59U.N. SAYS CRITICISM OF ISRAELI ACTION FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE ACTION FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE ATTACKS AGAINST ISRAELIS.
00:28:03ATTACKS AGAINST ISRAELIS. WHILE ISRAELI LEADERS CONDEMN WHILE ISRAELI LEADERS CONDEMN EXTREMIST VIOLENCE, THERE ARE
00:28:07EXTREMIST VIOLENCE, THERE ARE FAR RIGHT FIGURES IN THE FAR RIGHT FIGURES IN THE GOVERNMENT ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING
00:28:11GOVERNMENT ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF SETTLEMENTS. THE DEVELOPMENT OF SETTLEMENTS. LAST MONTH AFTER FOUR
00:28:15LAST MONTH AFTER FOUR PALESTINIANS AND TWO ISRAELIS PALESTINIANS AND TWO ISRAELIS WERE KILLED IN CLASHES IN THE
00:28:18WERE KILLED IN CLASHES IN THE WEST BANK. WEST BANK. BENJAMIN NETANYAHU VOWED TO
00:28:22BENJAMIN NETANYAHU VOWED TO ACCELERATE OF OUTPOSTS IN THE ACCELERATE OF OUTPOSTS IN THE WEST BANK.
00:28:26WEST BANK. PALESTINIANS ACCUSE THE ISRAELI PALESTINIANS ACCUSE THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT OF DISCRETING
00:28:29GOVERNMENT OF DISCRETING ALLOWING SETTLEMENTS AND NOT
00:28:31ALLOWING SETTLEMENTS AND NOT ENOUGH IS DONE FOR THE
00:28:36Well, immigration enforcement agents
00:28:37in the US may soon get be getting high tech gloves
00:28:40designed to deliver electrical shocks to people they're trying
00:28:44to detain. The plan is to spend between 10 and $20 million to
00:28:48purchase these devices and it's generating a lot of controversy.
00:28:52The ABC's Chris Reyes is in New York. She's tracking this story
00:28:56for us and joins us live. Hey, Chris,
00:28:58Let's begin with what exactly these devices look like and
00:29:02what ICE agents could use them for.
00:29:05Yeah, let me tell you all about it.
00:29:08Good morning, Arthur. So the glove is
00:29:10literally called GLOVE, which is actually an acronym
00:29:13that stands for Generated Low Output Voltage Emitter. And you
00:29:17wear these devices like you would a glove. It activates on
00:29:21skin only and emits about 30 electrical pulses per second.
00:29:25And the claim by the company that makes them is that it
00:29:29causes no injuries and that they've never had a lawsuit.
00:29:32And it simply creates enough of a shock for the person
00:29:36touched by it to fall to the ground. The advantage of this,
00:29:39according to the company and some law enforcement agencies
00:29:43using it, is that it gives officers an
00:29:45alternative tool before resorting to a weapon. So
00:29:48here's what one retired FBI agent said about it.
00:29:52I think it is a useful tool from the beginning of when you
00:29:55start law enforcement training, you learn about the force
00:29:58continuum. And any agent, law enforcement officer
00:30:01carrying out an operation wants to use the least force possible
00:30:04to do what they want to do, which is, you know,
00:30:07conduct that arrest safely. So there are different tools that
00:30:10you have along the way, you know, from verbal commands,
00:30:13soft physical controls, hard physical control,
00:30:16less lethal all the way up to deadly force.
00:30:21And the cost of these gloves, are they,
00:30:23as you mentioned already, 10 to $20 million for thousands
00:30:26of units if the Department of Homeland Security goes ahead
00:30:30with the order that it posted online earlier this week. We've
00:30:34mentioned that it is quite controversial. What kind of
00:30:37concerns do these electric shock gloves raise?
00:30:42What? To begin with, earthy tensions, as you know,
00:30:45as we've been reporting, between ICE agents and the
00:30:48communities that they patrol are perhaps at the highest
00:30:51level it's ever been since this agency was first created back
00:30:55in 2003 under President George W Bush post 911,
00:30:58when a bunch of different agencies relating to national
00:31:01security in the US consolidated to form the Department of
00:31:04Homeland Security. And even back then,
00:31:07it had many critics worried that this massive,
00:31:10powerful agency would trample civil liberties,
00:31:12that it's really under Trump and it would be in the 1st and
00:31:162nd administration that there has been a showdown between ICE
00:31:20and the groups that want it abolished. And just this year
00:31:24alone, as we've been covering here in
00:31:26the US ARTI, there have been several high
00:31:29profile clashes, including fatal ones with ICE,
00:31:32Renee Good and Alex Predict to name just two. So the idea that
00:31:36ICE is getting more weapons, even with claims that it's non
00:31:40lethal, is sparking major concerns, as you can
00:31:44imagine. Have a listen to one immigration advocate.
00:31:48I could list you more than 20 names of individuals that have
00:31:52been killed at the hands of ICE agents for no legitimate reason.
00:31:56They might be using them against the elderly
00:31:59individual, individuals with with heart
00:32:01conditions who may have a very significant reaction to an
00:32:05electric shock.
00:32:09So as you can imagine, earthy, this possible new purchase of
00:32:13these tools will just add more fuel to this already fiery
00:32:18debate about how much power ICE and ICE agent should have. So
00:32:22some have spoken out, arguing that these devices
00:32:26actually do hurt. One NYPD officer talking to NPR said
00:32:30that he's 63 and 250 lbs and it made him buckle to the ground.
00:32:35Other advocates say that ICE has been too quick to use
00:32:39force to begin with and that another tool like this would just lead
00:32:43to more harm and less accountability. OK, Chris,
00:32:46thank you for tracking this for us. That is the CBC's Chris
00:32:49Reyes in New York.
00:32:52In the Democratic Republic of Congo,
00:32:55this summer's outbreak of Ebola is already the second largest
00:32:59on record, and it's moving faster than any
00:33:02previous Ebola outbreak. There are now more than 4400 known
00:33:06cases and over 2000 deaths. The vast majority of infections are
00:33:10still within the province of Ituri. As the World Health
00:33:14Organization says, far more cases are not being
00:33:17tracked. And until we know about
00:33:20and break every chain of transmission,
00:33:23we will not stop the outbreak. Ongoing armed conflict and
00:33:27Congo's lack of infrastructure are complicating those efforts.
00:33:31Right now, 60% of all new cases are dying
00:33:34in the community, so they're not even making it
00:33:37to Ebola treatment centres. This Canadian aid worker in
00:33:40Congo says the virus keeps appearing in new areas that
00:33:44lack any awareness of how to combat this disease,
00:33:51communities before it's too late.
00:33:54She can't shake one recent memory of Ebola ravaging an
00:33:58entire family. The mother had died,
00:34:00the father had died. The grandmother brought a child who
00:34:04was sick. And then the grandmother died. And so this
00:34:07child was left and there was no one left in in the family to be
00:34:11able to care for this child. And this child recovered. There
00:34:15is no vaccine to protect people against this form of Ebola.
00:34:18Trials targeting the Bundibugyo virus are now underway in
00:34:22Canada and the UK. African officials
00:34:24also hope to start testing an existing Ebola vaccine in the
00:34:28weeks ahead to see just how much cross protection it might
00:34:31provide. Still, experts say it could take six
00:34:35months to get the crisis under control,
00:34:37or in a worst case scenario, up to a full year. The amount
00:34:41of response is not keeping up with the rapid spread of this
00:34:45outbreak. Now the challenge is we won't have vaccines for this
00:34:49overnight. And what we're hearing from workers on the
00:34:53ground is what's needed right now is more support,
00:34:57more workers, more efforts to be able to do
00:35:00contact tracing, to be able to clamp down
00:35:02on these chains of transmission. We heard from the Africa CDC
00:35:06that they are hoping to send out 4000 workers to these
00:35:09affected areas in the next few weeks. But what's the risk of
00:35:12this outbreak not being contained? Well,
00:35:14the fear from day one is that Congo is quite a central
00:35:17country in Africa. There are worries of more cases spilling
00:35:20into other areas now. They've been able to contain it largely
00:35:23so far. Hopefully, it'll stay that way. Lauren
00:35:26Pelley, thanks so much. Thank you.
00:48:33They may look like toys, but some doctors warn they're
00:48:36not, that they're seeing serious
00:48:39electric scooter injuries among children. Here to talk about
00:48:43the ride growing in popularity is Julia Kent from the Canadian
00:48:47Automobile Association. Julia, thank you for being here.
00:48:52Thank you for having me, Julia. It seems like this summer,
00:48:56E scooters are everywhere. Are you seeing a spike in usage?
00:48:59I think all Atlantic Canadians and everyone across the country
00:49:03is seeing this. And what we're encountering with E bikes and E
00:49:07scooters and micro mobility in general is that the adoption
00:49:10seems to be outpacing any sort of regulations. So governments
00:49:14and regulations just can't keep up. Emergency rooms are
00:49:17definitely seeing the impact as well as parents,
00:49:20as you mentioned you no doubt they're super fun. But Canada
00:49:23health experts warned there's been a spike, like you said,
00:49:27in hospitalizations, crashes and serious injuries.
00:49:30We've seen them here. What do you think is behind this sharp
00:49:34increase in ER visits? Well, we just CA just commissioned a
00:49:38study with the Traffic injury Research Foundation and we
00:49:42looked at all different components that go into the
00:49:45rise of micro mobility of east scooters and E bikes across the
00:49:49country. And we have several recommendations and we've found,
00:49:53found several regular
00:49:55regulatory graph gaps. But to answer your question in
00:49:58particular, the trips to the ER are very
00:50:01similar if not identical to the injuries that we see with a
00:50:04bike, a regular bike, not an E bike. But because
00:50:07these vehicles, these micro vehicles are moving
00:50:10so much faster than a bicycle mite,
00:50:12they are just that more severe. So they are absolutely a risk.
00:50:16It's a really convenient nifty way to get around,
00:50:19but it does not come without risk. That brings me to my next
00:50:23question. In the eyes of the law, E scooters
00:50:25are classified as motorized vehicles. What are the current
00:50:30laws in Canada for driving them?
00:50:33Well, for the most part, Canada and and every
00:50:35jurisdiction, whether it be municipality or
00:50:38province does not have laws that relate to these small
00:50:41vehicles, these micro mobility vehicles
00:50:44and that is one of the biggest problems. So like I said,
00:50:47the adoption has outpaced a government's ability to respond
00:50:50with regulations. I know Newfoundland and Labrador is
00:50:54talking about replacing the Highway Safety Act and that
00:50:57maybe those E bikes in east scooters would be included in
00:51:00that. But we found some key gaps, regulatory gaps
00:51:03and we compare Canada to other advanced countries like in
00:51:06Europe that have had immobility ebikes,
00:51:09these scooters for quite some time. In particular things like
00:51:12helmet usage, the speed at which these
00:51:14vehicles can travel, the use on sidewalks. All of
00:51:17these things are things that we need to think about,
00:51:20particularly as users and parents and also as pedestrians
00:51:23and users of of sidewalks as we see these things everywhere we
00:51:26go. That makes sense. You, you went in when you are in
00:51:29Europe, you see the E scooters
00:51:31everywhere and people been using them for decades. Do you
00:51:34think, Julia, there is a world where Canada
00:51:37can catch up and what do you think that would look like that
00:51:40we are using E scooters in a way that is safe.
00:51:43What we absolutely can catch up regulatory and safety wise in
00:51:47terms of these micro mobility usages. So they they are
00:51:50incredibly convenient. They're a wonderful way to get around.
00:51:54They'd reduce things like congestion. They're very,
00:51:57very convenient. So we really want to promote the safe use of
00:52:00those vehicles and I think we can catch up. It's going to
00:52:04take some time and where you know,
00:52:06Traffic Safety acts and and public safety is typically
00:52:09regulated on a provincial basis within Canada. That is going to
00:52:13take time as various provinces update the regulations,
00:52:16but it is possible. And our recommendation would be that we
00:52:20have a, we, we start small. So we have,
00:52:22we start with defining what is micro mobility,
00:52:25what is an E bike or an E scooter, How fast can they go?
00:52:28Required helmet usage is the first step. And then where are
00:52:32they allowed to drive? As it stands in Europe,
00:52:35there are a lot of places that do not allow any of these
00:52:38vehicles on the sidewalks and that that has proven to be a
00:52:42safer option. So we would recommend looking at that.
00:52:45Well, Juliet, one thing I wanna talk to you
00:52:48about is, is that these are not a toy.
00:52:50How important is that in this conversation?
00:52:54That's incredibly important, if not the most important thing.
00:52:57These are methods of transportation. They are not
00:53:00toys. I know they're shiny and exciting and new,
00:53:03particularly for children, but they need to be treated
00:53:06with the same respect that any vehicle is treated with because
00:53:09they come with the same risks and dangers. So things like
00:53:13required helmet usage, controlling the speed if
00:53:15possible and not buying aftermarket batteries and
00:53:18things like that. These cheaper and sometimes from China or
00:53:22other countries can can cause battery
00:53:24issues and light on fire. So there's various safety
00:53:27precautions we can take as parents and as users just to
00:53:30drive home to the kids. This is not a toy. This is a way to get
00:53:34around.
00:55:37How do you feel today after the surgery?
00:55:39Very good. Very good. Yeah. After living with liver disease
00:55:43and cancer for the last 15 years,
00:55:45Gerard Landry is cancer free. Not through chemo or
00:55:49radiotherapy, but with the help of a new
00:55:52liver. I was ready for everything,
00:55:54I would say. And just before he went into surgery,
00:55:58his doctor gave him some unexpected news about the organ.
00:56:02It was regenerated by a new machine used for the first
00:56:06time in North America. Well, it was like a Christmas gift. I
00:56:10didn't know that I will have that gift. Instead of simply
00:56:13keeping a donated liver cold in a medical cooler,
00:56:16this machine allows doctors to connect the organ to a system
00:56:20that pumps oxygen through it. This pump is especially good to
00:56:24recover those livers that are sensitive to the lack of oxygen
00:56:28during the the transfer of organ. He says the technology
00:56:31can be particularly useful for organs that have suffered from
00:56:35a lack of oxygen when the donor
00:56:37passed away. And doctors can actually test the liver before
00:56:41deciding whether it's safe to transplant. And we can even
00:56:45accept organs that wouldn't otherwise be transplantable
00:56:48without the help of this bump. The potential impact goes far
00:56:52beyond one patient. The SHUM estimates the technology could
00:56:56make 20 to 24 additional livers available for transplant in the
00:57:01first year, and potentially many more in
00:57:03the future. And for Gerard Landry,
00:57:06the breakthrough is much more
00:57:08personal. His cancer is gone, and after weeks of treatment
00:57:13and recovery, he is ready to go back home.
00:57:16I'm in a hurry to to see my family, my grandson,
00:57:20my friends and my horses.
00:57:28We're going to warm up and I just want you to think about
00:57:31your technique. We don't need power, we don't need speed,
00:57:34just technique. Here we are, the Dragons of hope. They've
00:57:37been around for more than 25 years and this year this squad
00:57:41is headed to France. It's a boat full of breast cancer
00:57:44survivors who come together in sport because we are the
00:57:48Dragons of hope. Come for a ride with me,
00:57:53I love it. I look forward to paddling every summer and it's
00:57:57a big part of my life to be with all of these wonderful
00:58:01paddlers that are my friends. And how did you get started?
00:58:06At the start, 1999, I noticed that there was a
00:58:10breast cancer survivor group dragon boating. So I joined the
00:58:14support group so that I could drag and vote. And that's
00:58:19that's how I started.
00:58:22And why do you think this is such a great sport for breast
00:58:26cancer survivors? Well, it gives them a variety of
00:58:29different exercises, which really helps with the
00:58:32drainage of the, you know, the lip glands. And some people
00:58:35are still actually in treatment when they're paddling. So even
00:58:39if they don't want to paddle, they can just be in the boat.
00:58:43And I'm happy to take them around the lake. Now,
00:58:46you've already traveled internationally with the
00:58:49Dragons of Hope. What's that like?
00:58:53I can't wait for the new people that are are traveling with us
00:58:57to France to experience it. Like me? Yes, like you
00:59:02feel like Olympians because it's such an amazing,
00:59:05amazing event. And I think the first time that you compete
00:59:09competitively in a race
00:59:11and you have that sense that you did it at the end is is
00:59:15just so awesome. And I can't wait for the newbies to
00:59:18experience what I did. Looked really good,
00:59:21ladies. It looked really good. When you get to France and it's
00:59:25literally, you know, over 3000 women in pink,
00:59:28it's a sea of pink and they all have that one thing in common.
00:59:32They're survivors, they're thrivers. And it's an
00:59:35energy that can it can't be described when you're there.
00:59:39It's just phenomenal and and the togetherness,
00:59:42all the women cheering on each other, it's highly competitive,
00:59:46but everyone supports each other and it's you're not able
00:59:49to find that anywhere else.
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