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00:00:06taking this threat? It's the uncertainty that's the
00:00:10biggest issue. Canada, we got you elbows up.
00:00:25>> Aarti: HELLO I'M AARTI POOLE. POOLE. WE BEGIN WITH DONALD TRUMP'S WE BEGIN WITH DONALD TRUMP'S LOOMING TARIFF DEADLINE.
00:00:28LOOMING TARIFF DEADLINE. WE GOT NEW INFORMATION THAT A WE GOT NEW INFORMATION THAT A SOURCE BRIEFED ON THE TALKS
00:00:31SOURCE BRIEFED ON THE TALKS CONFIRMED TARIFFS ON CANADIAN CONFIRMED TARIFFS ON CANADIAN MADE VEHICLES REMAIN A KEY MADE VEHICLES REMAIN A KEY STICKING POINT.
00:00:35STICKING POINT. TRUMP AND PRIME MINISTER MARK TRUMP AND PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY ARE EXPECTED TO TALK
00:00:38CARNEY ARE EXPECTED TO TALK TODAY AFTER A PHONE CALL TODAY AFTER A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY.
00:00:41YESTERDAY. BOTH COUNTRIES NEGOTIATING TEAMS BOTH COUNTRIES NEGOTIATING TEAMS ARE ALSO MEETING IN THESE FINAL ARE ALSO MEETING IN THESE FINAL HOURS.
00:00:45HOURS. WE STILL HAVE NO WORD IF ANY OF WE STILL HAVE NO WORD IF ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE FINDING
00:00:49THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE FINDING COMMON GROUND.
00:00:50COMMON GROUND. THE KEY PLAYERS ARE TALKING.
00:00:56THE KEY PLAYERS ARE TALKING. >> LISTEN, WE ARE INVOLVED IN >> LISTEN, WE ARE INVOLVED IN VERY DELEGATE AND INTENSE
00:01:00VERY DELEGATE AND INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS. NEGOTIATIONS. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO
00:01:02THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO NEGOTIATE IN PUBLIC.
00:01:07NEGOTIATE IN PUBLIC. >> Aarti: THE 50% OF TARIFFS >> Aarti: THE 50% OF TARIFFS COULD TAKE EFFECT TONIGHT.
00:01:10COULD TAKE EFFECT TONIGHT. THE U.S. PRESIDENT'S TOP TRADE THE U.S. PRESIDENT'S TOP TRADE NEGOTIATOR MADE THIS CLEAR THAT
00:01:14NEGOTIATOR MADE THIS CLEAR THAT TRUMP GETS THE FINAL SAY ON ANY TRUMP GETS THE FINAL SAY ON ANY DEAL.
00:01:17DEAL. IN THE AUTO SECTOR, REDUCTION IN IN THE AUTO SECTOR, REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT TARIFFS COULD BE ON
00:01:20THE CURRENT TARIFFS COULD BE ON THE TABLE. THE TABLE. CBC'S RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN HAS
00:01:23CBC'S RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN HAS MORE. MORE. >> Reporter: LOOKS LIKE >> Reporter: LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO A SOURCE THAT SPOKE
00:01:27ACCORDING TO A SOURCE THAT SPOKE TO CBC NEWS THAT THE AUTO SECTOR TO CBC NEWS THAT THE AUTO SECTOR IS REMAINING ONE OF THOSE KEY
00:01:30IS REMAINING ONE OF THOSE KEY STICKING POINTS.
00:01:31STICKING POINTS. THE CURRENT TARIFF OF 25% THE
00:01:35THE CURRENT TARIFF OF 25% THE AMERICANS ARE OFFERING TO LOWER
00:01:36AMERICANS ARE OFFERING TO LOWER IT TO 15% AND THE CANADIAN SIDE
00:01:41IT TO 15% AND THE CANADIAN SIDE SAYING THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. SAYING THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THESE TALKS THAT COULD HAPPEN
00:01:44THESE TALKS THAT COULD HAPPEN TODAY BETWEEN CANADIAN AND TODAY BETWEEN CANADIAN AND AMERICAN NEGOTIATORS, THAT'S ONE
00:01:48AMERICAN NEGOTIATORS, THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THEY WOULD BE OF THE ISSUES THEY WOULD BE TACKLING.
00:01:52TACKLING. WE DO KNOW FROM THE CANADIAN WE DO KNOW FROM THE CANADIAN SIDE THAT THEIR OVERALL LOOKING
00:01:56SIDE THAT THEIR OVERALL LOOKING FOR A REDUCTION OF TARIFFS
00:01:59FOR A REDUCTION OF TARIFFS BETWEEN 10 AND 12%.
00:02:01BETWEEN 10 AND 12%. THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL
00:02:04THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL THAT'S BEEN ADVISING CANADIAN
00:02:07THAT'S BEEN ADVISING CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY FOR
00:02:10PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY FOR CONSERVATIVE LEADER ERIN O'TOOLE CONSERVATIVE LEADER ERIN O'TOOLE SAID ON CBC NEWS.
00:02:14SAID ON CBC NEWS. WE HAVE A SENSE WHAT THE TARGET WE HAVE A SENSE WHAT THE TARGET IS. IS. PERHAPS, THAT'S WHAT THE
00:02:18PERHAPS, THAT'S WHAT THE CANADIAN SIDE IS AIMING FOR THE
00:02:19CANADIAN SIDE IS AIMING FOR THE AUTO SECTOR AS WELL ALONG WITH
00:02:22AUTO SECTOR AS WELL ALONG WITH STEEL, ALUMINUM, SOFTWOOD STEEL, ALUMINUM, SOFTWOOD LUMBER.
00:02:26LUMBER. ALL THESE OTHER TARIFFS THAT ALL THESE OTHER TARIFFS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED SO FAR.
00:02:29HAVE BEEN IMPOSED SO FAR. YES, THERE WILL BE MORE TALKS YES, THERE WILL BE MORE TALKS TODAY.
00:02:31TODAY. THERE COULD BE A SECOND THERE COULD BE A SECOND CONVERSATION BETWEEN PRIME
00:02:35CONVERSATION BETWEEN PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY AND U.S. MINISTER MARK CARNEY AND U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.
00:02:38PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. AS MANY AS TWO DAYS SUGGESTING
00:02:41AS MANY AS TWO DAYS SUGGESTING SOME THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD SOME THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD BUT A LOT OF STICKING POINTS
00:02:45BUT A LOT OF STICKING POINTS STILL. STILL. THE AMERICANS ARE NOT HAPPY
00:02:48THE AMERICANS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE BOOZE BAN IMPOSED BY ABOUT THE BOOZE BAN IMPOSED BY MOST PROVINCES IN CANADA.
00:02:52MOST PROVINCES IN CANADA. THE BAN ON SELLING AMERICAN
00:02:54THE BAN ON SELLING AMERICAN LIQUOR THAT IS WITH THE
00:02:58LIQUOR THAT IS WITH THE PROVINCES RESPONDING. PROVINCES RESPONDING. DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE TARIFFS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE TARIFFS AND THEN WE'LL TALK.
00:03:02AND THEN WE'LL TALK. THERE'S A LOT ON EACH SIDE STILL THERE'S A LOT ON EACH SIDE STILL WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOME
00:03:06WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF CONCESSION FROM THE
00:03:09KIND OF CONCESSION FROM THE OTHER. OTHER. >> Aarti: WE'VE BEEN WATCHING >> Aarti: WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS DEVELOP OVER THE PAST
00:03:13THIS DEVELOP OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS. SEVERAL DAYS. THESE TALKS HAVE BEEN THESE TALKS HAVE BEEN INTENSIFIED.
00:03:17INTENSIFIED. NOW WE'RE WATCHING THOSE TALKS NOW WE'RE WATCHING THOSE TALKS SORT OF ESCALATE TO THE TOP WITH
00:03:20SORT OF ESCALATE TO THE TOP WITH THE PRIME MINISTER AND THE THE PRIME MINISTER AND THE PRESIDENT SPEAKING.
00:03:22PRESIDENT SPEAKING. THEY COULD SPEAK AGAIN TODAY. THEY COULD SPEAK AGAIN TODAY. HOW ARE THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING
00:03:25HOW ARE THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY READING THAT?
00:03:30THIS CLOSELY READING THAT? >> Reporter: LOOK, THIS >> Reporter: LOOK, THIS SUGGESTING TO ME THERE'S SUGGESTING TO ME THERE'S MOMENTUM.
00:03:33MOMENTUM. WITH THAT MOMENT ITEM -- WITH THAT MOMENT ITEM -- MOMENTUM COMES VOLATILITY.
00:03:37MOMENTUM COMES VOLATILITY. WE HAVE SEEN HOW UNPREDICTABLE
00:03:39WE HAVE SEEN HOW UNPREDICTABLE THIS ADMINISTRATION CAN BE A THIS ADMINISTRATION CAN BE A MONTH AGO WHEN THEY STARTED
00:03:43MONTH AGO WHEN THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT 50% OF TARIFFS TO
00:03:46TALKING ABOUT 50% OF TARIFFS TO BE IMPOSED ON GOODS COVERED BY
00:03:50BE IMPOSED ON GOODS COVERED BY CUSMA. CUSMA. FREE TRADE DEAL THAT IS STILL IN
00:03:53FREE TRADE DEAL THAT IS STILL IN EFFECT BETWEEN CANADA, U.S. AND EFFECT BETWEEN CANADA, U.S. AND MEXICO.
00:03:56MEXICO. THERE'S A LOT OF ASTONISHMENT.
00:03:57THERE'S A LOT OF ASTONISHMENT. THIS WAS TERRITORY WE HAVEN'T
00:04:05THIS WAS TERRITORY WE HAVEN'T SEEN. SEEN. GOODS COVERED BY CUSMA,
00:04:08GOODS COVERED BY CUSMA, SOMETHING THAT THEY HADN'T YET SOMETHING THAT THEY HADN'T YET VENTURED INTO.
00:04:12VENTURED INTO. WE'VE ALSO SEEN THIS PRESIDENT WE'VE ALSO SEEN THIS PRESIDENT THREATEN SOME TARIFFS THAT NEVER
00:04:15THREATEN SOME TARIFFS THAT NEVER ENDED UP COMING THROUGH IN THE
00:04:17ENDED UP COMING THROUGH IN THE FIRST PLACE. FIRST PLACE. JUST THINK OF FEW WEEKS AGO, WE
00:04:21JUST THINK OF FEW WEEKS AGO, WE WERE TALKING HOW THE U.S. WAS WERE TALKING HOW THE U.S. WAS UNHAPPY WITH CANADIAN WILDFIRE
00:04:25UNHAPPY WITH CANADIAN WILDFIRE SMOKE BLOWING INTO AMERICA AND
00:04:28SMOKE BLOWING INTO AMERICA AND HOW THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT HOW THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE THE CAUSE FOR MORE
00:04:32WOULD BE THE CAUSE FOR MORE TARIFFS. TARIFFS. THAT HAS NOT ENDED UP HAPPENING.
00:04:35THAT HAS NOT ENDED UP HAPPENING. BUT PUBLICLY, THE ADMINISTRATION
00:04:38BUT PUBLICLY, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SPOKEN ABOUT IT.
00:04:41HAS SPOKEN ABOUT IT. THERE IS THIS QUESTION WHAT DOES
00:04:43THERE IS THIS QUESTION WHAT DOES HAPPEN AFTER MIDNIGHT IF THESE
00:04:45HAPPEN AFTER MIDNIGHT IF THESE TALKS DO NOT END UP GIVING US A
00:04:49TALKS DO NOT END UP GIVING US A DEAL TODAY? DEAL TODAY? COULD THOSE TARIFFS COME THROUGH
00:04:52COULD THOSE TARIFFS COME THROUGH AND HOW DOES THE CANADIAN SIDE AND HOW DOES THE CANADIAN SIDE RESPOND?
00:04:55RESPOND? THERE'S ALREADY SOME PRESSURE THERE'S ALREADY SOME PRESSURE FROM THE CANADIAN LABOUR
00:04:58FROM THE CANADIAN LABOUR CONGRESS TODAY SAYING THAT PART
00:05:01CONGRESS TODAY SAYING THAT PART OF THE LEVERAGE FROM CANADA
00:05:03OF THE LEVERAGE FROM CANADA COULD BE TO NOT GIVE IN IF THE
00:05:06COULD BE TO NOT GIVE IN IF THE DEAL THAT'S A BAD ONE. DEAL THAT'S A BAD ONE. LET'S HAVE A LOOK AT THEIR
00:05:10LET'S HAVE A LOOK AT THEIR STATEMENT. STATEMENT. THEY SAY, SOMETIMES IT MEANS NOT THEY SAY, SOMETIMES IT MEANS NOT BEING AFRAID TO WALK AWAY FROM
00:05:14BEING AFRAID TO WALK AWAY FROM BAD DEAL AND THAT'S OUR MESSAGE BAD DEAL AND THAT'S OUR MESSAGE TO THE ENTIRE CANADIAN
00:05:18TO THE ENTIRE CANADIAN NEGOTIATING TEAM. NEGOTIATING TEAM. CANADIAN WORKERS MADE A DEAL
00:05:21CANADIAN WORKERS MADE A DEAL THAT PROTECTS GOOD JOBS,
00:05:22THAT PROTECTS GOOD JOBS, STRENGTHENS OUR ECONOMY AND
00:05:25STRENGTHENS OUR ECONOMY AND DELIVERS REAL STABILITY.
00:05:28DELIVERS REAL STABILITY. NOW, THEY GO ON TO SAY, CANADA
00:05:31NOW, THEY GO ON TO SAY, CANADA MUST BE PREPARED TO HOLD FIRM ON MUST BE PREPARED TO HOLD FIRM ON OUR INTEREST AND REDLINES HAVING
00:05:35OUR INTEREST AND REDLINES HAVING A CLEAR PLAN TO SUPPORT WORKERS
00:05:36A CLEAR PLAN TO SUPPORT WORKERS AND COMMUNITIES IF TARIFFS COME
00:05:39AND COMMUNITIES IF TARIFFS COME INTO EFFECT. INTO EFFECT. WE'VE ALSO HEARD THE CANADIAN
00:05:43WE'VE ALSO HEARD THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER SAY THAT HE'S GOT PRIME MINISTER SAY THAT HE'S GOT A PLANS FOR ANY SITUATION THAT
00:05:47A PLANS FOR ANY SITUATION THAT MAY ARISE. MAY ARISE. THERE'S A SENSE THAT THEY COULD
00:05:50THERE'S A SENSE THAT THEY COULD BE PREPARING FOR MORE
00:05:54BE PREPARING FOR MORE RETALIATION. RETALIATION. A LOT TO WATCH
00:05:59>> Aarti: RAFFY. THANKS CBC'S RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN THANKS CBC'S RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN IN OTTAWA.
00:06:02IN OTTAWA. WITH CANADA RACING TO MEET THE WITH CANADA RACING TO MEET THE DEADLINE.
00:06:05DEADLINE. SOUTH OF THE BORDER. SOUTH OF THE BORDER. HOW IS THE STORY TRACKING IN THE
00:06:07HOW IS THE STORY TRACKING IN THE U.S.?
00:06:09U.S.? CBC'S KRIS REYES IS IN NEW YORK. CBC'S KRIS REYES IS IN NEW YORK. THERE HAS BEEN SOME COVERAGE IN
00:06:13THERE HAS BEEN SOME COVERAGE IN THE PAST 24 HOURS.
00:06:14THE PAST 24 HOURS. NEW YORK TIME AND B.C., CBS.
00:06:18NEW YORK TIME AND B.C., CBS. I WONDERING IF THERE'S A SINCE I WONDERING IF THERE'S A SINCE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF URGENCY IN
00:06:21THERE ISN'T A LOT OF URGENCY IN THE UNITED STATES TO GET A DEAL THE UNITED STATES TO GET A DEAL DONE?
00:06:24DONE? >> Reporter: THIS IS A COUNTRY >> Reporter: THIS IS A COUNTRY SATURATED IN STORIES. SATURATED IN STORIES. GOOD AFTERNOON.
00:06:27GOOD AFTERNOON. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S A IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S A COUNTRY EMBROILED IN A PROLONGED
00:06:31COUNTRY EMBROILED IN A PROLONGED WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
00:06:33WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. IT'S A COUNTRY THAT IS BARRELING
00:06:36IT'S A COUNTRY THAT IS BARRELING TOWARDS ONE OF THE MOST TOWARDS ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL MIDTERM ELECTIONS
00:06:41CONSEQUENTIAL MIDTERM ELECTIONS IN RECENT MEMORY.
00:06:43IN RECENT MEMORY. ALMOST EVERY AMERICAN IS ALMOST EVERY AMERICAN IS AFFECTED BY THE COST OF LIVING
00:06:46AFFECTED BY THE COST OF LIVING CRISIS IN EVERY STATE. CRISIS IN EVERY STATE. THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING HERE.
00:06:50THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE.
00:06:52THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE. ADD TO THAT YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT
00:06:54ADD TO THAT YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO PRIDES HIMSELF IN CONDUCTING
00:06:57WHO PRIDES HIMSELF IN CONDUCTING MANY DEALS ALL AT ONCE, BE IT
00:07:00MANY DEALS ALL AT ONCE, BE IT COMPANY OR COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN COMPANY OR COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
00:07:04THE WORLD. THIS POLICY AGAINST CANADA IS
00:07:06THIS POLICY AGAINST CANADA IS JUST ONE OF MANY THAT THE TRUMP
00:07:08JUST ONE OF MANY THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DEALING WITH. ADMINISTRATION IS DEALING WITH. IT'S NO WONDER THAT IT BARRELLY
00:07:12IT'S NO WONDER THAT IT BARRELLY REGISTERS HERE IN THE U.S. REGISTERS HERE IN THE U.S. IT DOESN'T DOMINATE HEADLINES.
00:07:15IT DOESN'T DOMINATE HEADLINES. IT DOESN'T DOMINATE THE Q&As IT DOESN'T DOMINATE THE Q&As WITH THE PRESIDENT.
00:07:19WITH THE PRESIDENT. WHAT YOU'RE LEFT WITH IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE LEFT WITH IS THIS FEELING THAT EVEN WHEN JAMESON
00:07:22FEELING THAT EVEN WHEN JAMESON GREER IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
00:07:24GREER IS TALKING ABOUT IT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A PRIORITY.
00:07:27PRIORITY. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY ARE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY ARE IN A HURRY.
00:07:31IN A HURRY. THERE'S NO URGENCY. THERE'S NO URGENCY. DOESN'T SEEM TO GET THE KIND OF
00:07:34DOESN'T SEEM TO GET THE KIND OF PRESSING ATTENTION FROM THE PRESSING ATTENTION FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT WE SEE HIM
00:07:37PRESIDENT THAT WE SEE HIM DISPLAY WITH OTHER ISSUES AND DISPLAY WITH OTHER ISSUES AND WITH OTHER WORLD LEADERS.
00:07:40WITH OTHER WORLD LEADERS. ALL THAT SAID, IT DOES BECOME A
00:07:43ALL THAT SAID, IT DOES BECOME A BIT MORE PERSONAL WHEN YOU GET
00:07:45BIT MORE PERSONAL WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO BUSINESS TO BUSINESS
00:07:48DOWN TO BUSINESS TO BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS-THE-BOARD. RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS-THE-BOARD. THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR A LOT MORE
00:07:52THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR A LOT MORE PEOPLE TALKING. PEOPLE TALKING. WHEN IT'S ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT
00:07:55WHEN IT'S ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTING THE REAL PEOPLE ARE AFFECTING THE REAL PEOPLE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
00:07:58CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WE DID INTERVIEW ONE OF THOSE WE DID INTERVIEW ONE OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS FROM
00:08:02SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS FROM MICHIGAN. MICHIGAN. THEY BUY SUPPLIES FROM CANADA THEY BUY SUPPLIES FROM CANADA FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE.
00:08:06FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE. THEY ARE AFFECTED BY THESE
00:08:09THEY ARE AFFECTED BY THESE TARIFFS SHOULD THEY TAKE EFFECT
00:08:12TARIFFS SHOULD THEY TAKE EFFECT AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. THEY TOLD US WHY HE THINKS NOT
00:08:15THEY TOLD US WHY HE THINKS NOT MORE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE MORE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THIS.
00:08:19SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THIS. >> UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IT IS >> UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IT IS GENUINE FEAR.
00:08:22GENUINE FEAR. THE REALITY IS, IT IS CONGRESS'S
00:08:23THE REALITY IS, IT IS CONGRESS'S JOB TO LEVY TAXES AND TARIFFS.
00:08:26JOB TO LEVY TAXES AND TARIFFS. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS
00:08:30WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS WORKING OUTSIDE HIS MEANS.
00:08:32WORKING OUTSIDE HIS MEANS. NO ONE IS HOLDING HIM
00:08:35NO ONE IS HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE. ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S NEGATIVELY IMPACTING IT'S NEGATIVELY IMPACTING BUSINESSES LIKE MYSELF.
00:08:39BUSINESSES LIKE MYSELF. BUSINESSES ACROSS THE U.S. AND BUSINESSES ACROSS THE U.S. AND ACROSS THE BORDER.
00:08:42ACROSS THE BORDER. I THINK THERE'S A FEAR OF IF I
00:08:43I THINK THERE'S A FEAR OF IF I SPEAK OUT, I'LL GET RETALIATED
00:08:46SPEAK OUT, I'LL GET RETALIATED AGAINST. AGAINST. >> Reporter: IN ADDITION TO
00:08:50>> Reporter: IN ADDITION TO THAT SMALL BUSINESS OPENER, YOU
00:08:52THAT SMALL BUSINESS OPENER, YOU ARE NOW HEARING FROM THE U.S.
00:08:55ARE NOW HEARING FROM THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WHICH IS SAYING SOMETHING, GIVEN
00:08:58WHICH IS SAYING SOMETHING, GIVEN THAT THEY REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF THAT THEY REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES IN THE
00:09:01THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES IN THE U.S. U.S. THEY BILL THEMSELVES AS THE
00:09:04THEY BILL THEMSELVES AS THE LARGEST BUSINESS FEDERATION IN LARGEST BUSINESS FEDERATION IN THE WORLD.
00:09:07THE WORLD. IN A STATEMENT RELEASED TODAY, IN A STATEMENT RELEASED TODAY, THEY ARE PRESSING ON THE TRUMP
00:09:11THEY ARE PRESSING ON THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP THESE ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP THESE NEGOTIATIONS GOING AND MAKING AN
00:09:15NEGOTIATIONS GOING AND MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT LOWER TARIFFS ON ARGUMENT THAT LOWER TARIFFS ON IMPORTED CANADIAN GOODS LIKE
00:09:18IMPORTED CANADIAN GOODS LIKE STEEL, ALUMINUM AND LUMBER WILL
00:09:22STEEL, ALUMINUM AND LUMBER WILL BE A BOOM FOR U.S. CONSUMER. BE A BOOM FOR U.S. CONSUMER. THE MESSAGE HERE IS NOT BE NICE
00:09:25THE MESSAGE HERE IS NOT BE NICE TO CANADA. TO CANADA. THIS IS GOOD FOR AMERICANS.
00:09:28THIS IS GOOD FOR AMERICANS. THEY TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE
00:09:30THEY TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MARKET ACCESS, INCLUDING THE
00:09:32OF MARKET ACCESS, INCLUDING THE RETURN OF U.S. WINE AND SPIRITS RETURN OF U.S. WINE AND SPIRITS ON CANADIAN SHELVES.
00:09:36ON CANADIAN SHELVES. I WANT TO READ TO YOU PART OF I WANT TO READ TO YOU PART OF THE STATEMENT. THE STATEMENT. THE INSTRUCTION INTRODUCTION OF
00:09:40THE INSTRUCTION INTRODUCTION OF HIGHER TARIFFS WOULD DAMAGE BOTH HIGHER TARIFFS WOULD DAMAGE BOTH ECONOMIES, DRIVE UP COSTS FOR
00:09:43ECONOMIES, DRIVE UP COSTS FOR U.S. FAMILIES, FURTHER DISRUPT
00:09:45U.S. FAMILIES, FURTHER DISRUPT CRITICAL SUPPLY CHAINS AND RISK
00:09:48CRITICAL SUPPLY CHAINS AND RISK THE 13 MILLION AMERICAN JOBS
00:09:50THE 13 MILLION AMERICAN JOBS THAT DEPEND ON TRADE UNDER THE
00:09:53THAT DEPEND ON TRADE UNDER THE U.S.-MEXICO CANADA TRADE U.S.-MEXICO CANADA TRADE AGREEMENTS.
00:09:57AGREEMENTS. I DON'T THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS A I DON'T THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS A COINCIDENCE.
00:09:59COINCIDENCE. THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTING THAT THIS
00:10:01THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTING THAT THIS IMPACT AMERICANS AND AMERICAN IMPACT AMERICANS AND AMERICAN JOBS.
00:10:04JOBS. AS WE BARREL TOWARDS A VERY AS WE BARREL TOWARDS A VERY CONSEQUENTIAL MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
00:10:08CONSEQUENTIAL MIDTERM ELECTIONS. WE DO KNOW THAT TRUMP TENDS TO
00:10:10WE DO KNOW THAT TRUMP TENDS TO LISTEN TO BUSINESS OWNERS, BIG LISTEN TO BUSINESS OWNERS, BIG AND SMALL.
00:10:13AND SMALL. WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHETHER THIS WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHETHER THIS HAS AN IMPACT ON WHAT TRANSPIRES
00:10:17HAS AN IMPACT ON WHAT TRANSPIRES OVERNIGHT ON THIS DEAL. OVERNIGHT ON THIS DEAL. >> Aarti: THAT IS
00:10:22CANADA. WE'RE JUST HOURS TO GO BEFORE
00:10:25WE'RE JUST HOURS TO GO BEFORE DONALD TRUMP'S PUNISHING TARIFFS DONALD TRUMP'S PUNISHING TARIFFS ARE SET TO COME INTO EFFECT.
00:10:28ARE SET TO COME INTO EFFECT. MANY CANADIAN BUSINESSES ARE ON
00:10:32MANY CANADIAN BUSINESSES ARE ON EDGE. EDGE. CBC'S SENIOR BUSINESS CBC'S SENIOR BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT PETER ARMSTRONG
00:10:36CORRESPONDENT PETER ARMSTRONG JOIN US NOW TO DISCUSS THE
00:10:39JOIN US NOW TO DISCUSS THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE TARIFFS. IMPLICATIONS OF THE TARIFFS. WHAT'S AT STAKE?
00:10:42WHAT'S AT STAKE? >> THIS IS A PIVOTAL 12 HOURS.
00:10:56>> THIS IS A PIVOTAL 12 HOURS. BUSINESSES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BUSINESSES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT IS BEING NEGOTIATED.
00:11:00WHAT IS BEING NEGOTIATED. WHAT IS BEING GIVEN AND TAKEN. WHAT IS BEING GIVEN AND TAKEN. THERE'S TWO TRAUNCHS TO THINK
00:11:04THERE'S TWO TRAUNCHS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS MIGHT MEAN. ABOUT WHAT THIS MIGHT MEAN. IF THESE TARIFFS COME IN, WHAT
00:11:07IF THESE TARIFFS COME IN, WHAT WILL THAT MEAN FOR ALL THE WILL THAT MEAN FOR ALL THE INDUSTRIES AFFECTED?
00:11:10INDUSTRIES AFFECTED? IF THAT HAPPENS, IT'S ALL THESE
00:11:13IF THAT HAPPENS, IT'S ALL THESE DOMINO'S TO FALL. DOMINO'S TO FALL. WHAT IS THE CANADIAN RESPONSES? WHAT IS THE CANADIAN RESPONSES? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR
00:11:17WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR CANADIAN CONSUMERS AND CANADIAN CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES PAYING TARIFFS ON
00:11:19BUSINESSES PAYING TARIFFS ON AMERICAN GOODS COMING IN CANADA.
00:11:21AMERICAN GOODS COMING IN CANADA. WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IF WE
00:11:25WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IF WE DEEPEN IN THE TRADE WAR FOR DEEPEN IN THE TRADE WAR FOR ONGOING TALKS TO GET CERTAINTY
00:11:28ONGOING TALKS TO GET CERTAINTY BACK IN THE NORTH AMERICAN
00:11:31BACK IN THE NORTH AMERICAN BUSINESS LANDSCAPE. BUSINESS LANDSCAPE. AS WE KNOW, THAT UNCERTAINTY IS AS WE KNOW, THAT UNCERTAINTY IS PROBABLY THE THING THAT HAS
00:11:35PROBABLY THE THING THAT HAS CAUSED THE MOST DAMAGE CAUSED THE MOST DAMAGE ACROSS-THE-BOARD.
00:11:39ACROSS-THE-BOARD. AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO CAUSE AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO CAUSE MORE DAMAGE AS IT GOES ON.
00:11:42MORE DAMAGE AS IT GOES ON. OKAY, THERE'S ALL THESE 232 OKAY, THERE'S ALL THESE 232 TARIFFS.
00:11:45TARIFFS. THE SECTORIAL TARIFFS THAT ARE THE SECTORIAL TARIFFS THAT ARE ON STEEL, ALUMINUM AND AUTOS AND ON STEEL, ALUMINUM AND AUTOS AND LUMBER.
00:11:48LUMBER. THOSE ARE ONGOING. THOSE ARE ONGOING. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THOSE DOWN
00:11:51WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THOSE DOWN AND OFFSET THE ONES THAT MIGHT AND OFFSET THE ONES THAT MIGHT COME IN MIDNIGHT TONIGHT.
00:11:54COME IN MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. ALL OF WHICH CAUSE DAMAGE.
00:11:55ALL OF WHICH CAUSE DAMAGE. ALL OF WHICH CAUSE GREAT
00:12:00ALL OF WHICH CAUSE GREAT UNCERTAINTY. UNCERTAINTY. AND IT CAUSES ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF AND IT CAUSES ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ANXIETY WHERE YOU GOT THE
00:12:04ANXIETY WHERE YOU GOT THE C.E.O.S AND LEADERRERS AND
00:12:07FOUNDERS AND BUILDERS THAT ARE SPENDING ALL OF THEIR TIME RIGHT SPENDING ALL OF THEIR TIME RIGHT NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THEY NEED TO TALK TO.
00:12:11THEY NEED TO TALK TO. WHO THEY NEED TO LOBBY. WHO THEY NEED TO LOBBY. DO THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE ON THE
00:12:13DO THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE ON THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER STUFF, THERE'S A
00:12:15SOFTWOOD LUMBER STUFF, THERE'S A $11 BILLION IN DEPOSITS, DUTIES
00:12:18$11 BILLION IN DEPOSITS, DUTIES THAT WRONGLY APPLIED TO CANADIAN THAT WRONGLY APPLIED TO CANADIAN COMPANY. COMPANY. THERE'S SOME GROUPS TRYING TO
00:12:22THERE'S SOME GROUPS TRYING TO GET THAT BACK. GET THAT BACK. SOME SAYING USE IT AS LEVERAGE SOME SAYING USE IT AS LEVERAGE TO GIVE IT AWAY.
00:12:26TO GIVE IT AWAY. SPENDING ALL THIS TIME AND SPENDING ALL THIS TIME AND ENERGY DEALING WITH THAT RATHER
00:12:29ENERGY DEALING WITH THAT RATHER THAN TRYING TO GROW THEIR THAN TRYING TO GROW THEIR BUSINESS AND BUILD A NEW PAPER
00:12:32BUSINESS AND BUILD A NEW PAPER PLANT. PLANT. WHATEVER IT MAY BE. WHATEVER IT MAY BE. THAT, I THINK, IS THE REAL
00:12:36THAT, I THINK, IS THE REAL FRUSTRATION
00:12:41>> Aarti: A MAJOR U.S. TRIAL IS UNDER WAY PITTING SOCIAL
00:12:44IS UNDER WAY PITTING SOCIAL MEDIA GIANT META AGAINST A MEDIA GIANT META AGAINST A COALITION OF 29 STATE ATTORNEYS
00:12:48COALITION OF 29 STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL. GENERAL. THEY ACCUSED META, THE PARENT
00:12:50THEY ACCUSED META, THE PARENT COMPANY OF Facebook AND COMPANY OF Facebook AND INSTAGRAM, OF HOOKING YOUNG
00:12:54INSTAGRAM, OF HOOKING YOUNG USERS LYING ABOUT THE RISKS USERS LYING ABOUT THE RISKS THEIR PLATFORM POSE AND
00:12:58THEIR PLATFORM POSE AND ILLEGALLY COLLECTING THEIR DATA.
00:13:03ILLEGALLY COLLECTING THEIR DATA. JOURNALIST IRIS SPITZER JOIN ME
00:13:06JOURNALIST IRIS SPITZER JOIN ME OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE IN OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE IN OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA.
00:13:08OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA. BREAK DOWN THE ACCUSATIONS FOR
00:13:15BREAK DOWN THE ACCUSATIONS FOR US. US. >> Reporter: THE CONSORTIUM OF
00:13:17>> Reporter: THE CONSORTIUM OF U.S. STATE HAVE ACCUSED META
00:13:21U.S. STATE HAVE ACCUSED META DELIBERATELY DESIGNING DELIBERATELY DESIGNING PLATFORM, Facebook AND
00:13:24PLATFORM, Facebook AND INSTAGRAM IN W WAYS THAT ARE
00:13:26INSTAGRAM IN W WAYS THAT ARE HARMFUL TO CHILDREN AND
00:13:29HARMFUL TO CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS. TEENAGERS. MAKING THOSE DESIGN CHOICES
00:13:33MAKING THOSE DESIGN CHOICES DESPITE KNOWING ABOUT THE HARMS
00:13:35DESPITE KNOWING ABOUT THE HARMS THAT THEIR PRODUCTS WOULD CAUSE
00:13:37THAT THEIR PRODUCTS WOULD CAUSE TO THOSE PEOPLE.
00:13:40TO THOSE PEOPLE. WE'VE SEEN KIND OF A GROUND
00:13:42WE'VE SEEN KIND OF A GROUND SWELL OF LEGAL ACTIVITY OVER THE SWELL OF LEGAL ACTIVITY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
00:13:45PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THIS LAWSUIT WAS INITIALLY FILED
00:13:49THIS LAWSUIT WAS INITIALLY FILED IN 2023. IN 2023. THIS IS SUCH A MONUMENTAL DAY TO
00:13:53THIS IS SUCH A MONUMENTAL DAY TO FINALLY HAVE THESE STATES BEING
00:13:55FINALLY HAVE THESE STATES BEING LED BY FOUR STATES BRING THIS TO
00:13:59LED BY FOUR STATES BRING THIS TO TRIAL. TRIAL. WHEN YOU CAN SEE BEHIND ME,
00:14:01WHEN YOU CAN SEE BEHIND ME, THOSE ARE FAMILIES OF ALLEGED
00:14:06THOSE ARE FAMILIES OF ALLEGED VICTIMS OF Facebook AND
00:14:09VICTIMS OF Facebook AND INSTAGRAM. INSTAGRAM. THE FAMILIES OF THOSE VICTIMS
00:14:12THE FAMILIES OF THOSE VICTIMS ARE HERE OUTSIDE THE COURT, ARE HERE OUTSIDE THE COURT, TALKING ABOUT THE HARMS THAT
00:14:16TALKING ABOUT THE HARMS THAT THEY SAY THE SOCIAL MEDIA
00:14:17THEY SAY THE SOCIAL MEDIA PRODUCTS CAUSED TO THEIR PRODUCTS CAUSED TO THEIR CHILDREN.
00:14:21CHILDREN. IN SOME CASES, LEADING TO THEM IN SOME CASES, LEADING TO THEM LOSING THEIR LIVES THROUGH
00:14:25LOSING THEIR LIVES THROUGH SUICIDE AND OTHER TERRIBLE
00:14:28SUICIDE AND OTHER TERRIBLE OCCURRENCES.
00:14:29OCCURRENCES. REALLY, THIS IS A MAJOR DAY FOR
00:14:34REALLY, THIS IS A MAJOR DAY FOR THIS SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY GIVEN THIS SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY GIVEN POTENTIAL FINANCIAL LIABILITIES,
00:14:38POTENTIAL FINANCIAL LIABILITIES, POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THEIR POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THEIR PRODUCTS THAT COULD BE MANDATED
00:14:41PRODUCTS THAT COULD BE MANDATED FOR ITS PART, META HAS STRONGLY
00:14:45FOR ITS PART, META HAS STRONGLY REJECTED THESE ALLEGATIONS AND
00:14:46REJECTED THESE ALLEGATIONS AND SAYS THAT IT HAS TAKEN STEPS TO
00:14:49SAYS THAT IT HAS TAKEN STEPS TO MAKE ITS PRODUCT SAFER FOR YOUNG MAKE ITS PRODUCT SAFER FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:14:52PEOPLE. THIS TRIAL IS EXPECTED TO LAST THIS TRIAL IS EXPECTED TO LAST FOR ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
00:14:55FOR ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS. WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE META
00:15:01WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE META C.E.O., MARK ZUCKERBERG TAKE THE C.E.O., MARK ZUCKERBERG TAKE THE STAND.
00:15:05STAND. >> Aarti: YOU OUTLINED SOME OF >> Aarti: YOU OUTLINED SOME OF THIS ALREADY. THIS ALREADY. CERTAINLY, PEOPLE WILL BE
00:15:09CERTAINLY, PEOPLE WILL BE WATCHING CLOSELY WHEN MARK WATCHING CLOSELY WHEN MARK ZUCKERBERG TAKE THE STAND.
00:15:12ZUCKERBERG TAKE THE STAND. WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE FOR META?
00:15:16WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE FOR META? >> Reporter: WELL, THIS OF
00:15:19>> Reporter: WELL, THIS OF COURSE REALLY CALLS INTO
00:15:22COURSE REALLY CALLS INTO QUESTION ITS CORE PRODUCTS AND QUESTION ITS CORE PRODUCTS AND THE DESIGN OF THOSE CORE
00:15:25THE DESIGN OF THOSE CORE PRODUCTS WHICH MANY OF YOUR PRODUCTS WHICH MANY OF YOUR VIEWERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
00:15:29VIEWERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH. THESE ARE ISSUES LIKE THE
00:15:33THESE ARE ISSUES LIKE THE INFINITE SCROLLING FEATURE. INFINITE SCROLLING FEATURE. WHERE YOU CAN KEEP ON BEING
00:15:37WHERE YOU CAN KEEP ON BEING ACTIVE ON Facebook AND
00:15:39ACTIVE ON Facebook AND INSTAGRAM FOREVER. INSTAGRAM FOREVER. THERE'S THE LIKE BUTTON.
00:15:42THERE'S THE LIKE BUTTON. THERE'S ALGORITHMS THAT
00:15:45THERE'S ALGORITHMS THAT RECOMMEND VARIOUS POSTS THAT RECOMMEND VARIOUS POSTS THAT THINKS YOU MIGHT LIKE.
00:15:49THINKS YOU MIGHT LIKE. THE CORE OF ITS BUSINESS IS
00:15:51THE CORE OF ITS BUSINESS IS BEING DECLARED BY THESE STATES
00:15:53BEING DECLARED BY THESE STATES TO BE HARMFUL TO YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:15:58TO BE HARMFUL TO YOUNG PEOPLE. CERTAINLY, THERE IS THE ISSUE OF CERTAINLY, THERE IS THE ISSUE OF THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED ITS
00:16:02THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED ITS PRODUCT. PRODUCT. THERE'S POTENTIAL FINANCIAL THERE'S POTENTIAL FINANCIAL LIABILITY.
00:16:06LIABILITY. LEADING UP TO THIS TRIAL, THERE
00:16:07LEADING UP TO THIS TRIAL, THERE WERE REPORTS OF AS MUCH AS
00:16:10WERE REPORTS OF AS MUCH AS $1.4 TRILLION OF LIABILITY NOW
00:16:14$1.4 TRILLION OF LIABILITY NOW THAT'S BEEN REDUCED TO SEVERAL
00:16:17THAT'S BEEN REDUCED TO SEVERAL HUNDRED BILLION BY THE STATES.
00:16:19HUNDRED BILLION BY THE STATES. STILL, THAT COULD HAVE A
00:16:21STILL, THAT COULD HAVE A TERRIBLE EFFECT ON META'S BOTTOM
00:16:24TERRIBLE EFFECT ON META'S BOTTOM LINE IF THEY FACE THOSE LINE IF THEY FACE THOSE PENALTIES. PENALTIES. >> Aar
00:17:20After generations of complaining that Quebec was
00:17:23ripping off Newfoundland and Labrador,
00:17:25Premier Tony Wakim says this deal is a fix. We have achieved
00:17:28a rare win, win, win. Quebec will pay a lot more
00:17:31for the power from the Churchill Falls Hydroelectric
00:17:34generating station and Labrador Hydro. Quebec will build a new
00:17:38dam at Gull Island, producing thousands of
00:17:40megawatts of new power. A wind project could produce thousands
00:17:44of megawatts more. Then there's a federally funded power line
00:17:48to bring this electricity to new mining projects
00:17:51altogether. Ottawa says it will triple the capacity of
00:17:54Churchill Falls, enough power to light, heat,
00:17:56cool the homes in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver combined.
00:17:59Churchill Falls has been contentious since the two
00:18:02provinces signed their first deal in 1969,
00:18:04where Newfoundland and Labrador sold its power to Quebec on the
00:18:08cheap a year and a half ago. 2 Now former premiers ripped up
00:18:11that deal for a new one. And we are endeavoring.
00:18:16Wacom's Progressive Conservatives won last fall's
00:18:19election, and he went back to negotiate
00:18:21more power for industrial development,
00:18:24the single largest clean energy investment in North American
00:18:28history. Now history risks repeating itself within days.
00:18:31Quebec is headed into its own election campaign,
00:18:34and the governing Coalition Avenir Quebec is in trouble. I
00:18:38see the the particular Bequia is interested in turning up
00:18:42this agreement. Where will they find the 10,
00:18:44000 megawatts we are bringing to Quebec
00:18:47that agreement?
00:18:49Nothing stops a new premier in Quebec from ripping up this
00:18:52deal. But Quebec's plan to decarbonize requires finding
00:18:55new sources of renewable energy. It's the low hanging fruit. And
00:18:59I think when they're going to see the numbers,
00:19:01they're going to realize that, well,
00:19:03I guess we're going to suck it up, excuse my language, and,
00:19:06and go with with this deal.
00:19:08In the last election, Wacom promised a referendum on
00:19:11any new deal. But now he says there just isn't enough time.
00:19:14Instead, provincial politicians will get
00:19:17a chance to weigh in during a special sitting of the
00:19:19legislature. Peter. There's also the question, though,
00:19:22of Indigenous support.
00:19:25Yeah, these projects sit on new lands,
00:19:27and they've already signed off on a new hydro deal,
00:19:31but not this new wind farm. Now, the federal government is
00:19:35offering to make them part owners of this new project. But
00:19:38the newly elected grand chief says she needs to see more
00:19:42details. OK, thanks, Peter. Peter Cowan in St.
00:19:45John's tonight.
00:19:48Everyone at the announcement described the deal as the win
00:19:51win, but what is actually in it for
00:19:53Quebec? The old agreement was widely
00:19:55seen as a sweetheart deal for the province,
00:19:58giving it ultra low prices. But Hydro Quebec says this new deal
00:20:02is set to provide up to 10, 000 megawatts of electricity to
00:20:06the province. That extra capacity will allow prices to
00:20:09be kept below market rates. One of the many attractive features
00:20:13of this contract is the low cost of energy for the whole
00:20:16project. Quebec's premiers
00:20:18that the timing is important because it takes about 15 years
00:20:22to build and activate a hydroelectric energy plant. The
00:20:26old deal was set to expire in 2041. It's an agreement that
00:20:30will define the energy future of Quebec. We will probably
00:20:34talk about this and, you know, in 2050,
00:20:37fifty years. Hydro Quebec is set to invest $45 billion into
00:20:41the project and receive about 6. 5 billions from the federal
00:20:45government. The Crown corporation's executive vice
00:20:48president David Graham said for Quebeckers,
00:20:51that means their electricity bills would go up starting in
00:20:552029, between 2 and 5% each year,
00:20:57but any increase would need to be approved by the Quebec
00:21:00Energy Board. If Hydro Quebec does want to increase energy
00:21:04rates at that kind of rate, then they should also be
00:21:07helping people to fix the insulation in their homes,
00:21:11fix a lot of the problems that people have keeping their
00:21:14energy bills down. Presently, this is not a done deal yet.
00:21:18The Churchill River sits within the land
00:21:20claim of the Annunciation. There are major stakeholder in
00:21:24the project, but they say they're yet to be
00:21:26properly consulted and it's a possibility that another
00:21:30government decide to tear up that agreement. I see the the
00:21:33particular requires interested in taking up this agreement
00:21:37they don't want to implement.
00:21:40OK, So what a what do they offer to
00:21:42Quebeckers? PQ Leader Polson Pier Plamondon
00:21:45responded on social media, saying that's simply false. How
00:21:49could he tear up a deal he hasn't seen?
00:21:51He went on to say that if it's positive for Quebec, his party,
00:21:55if elected in October, would keep it.
00:24:00Tear down work has begun at Tumblr Ridge Secondary School
00:24:03months after a mass shooting killed 6 people,
00:24:05including five children. We spoke to our Matt Pre post
00:24:09earlier today who talked about the work that has now begun.
00:24:13Yeah, Hi Michelle. As you can see
00:24:15behind me is the South wing of the former Tumblr Ridge
00:24:19Secondary School scraped down to its metal beams today. Now
00:24:23this is where the schools auto shop class was for the trades
00:24:26area was located. There was even a fish farm that students
00:24:30enjoyed in this part of the school.
00:24:34The school has been around for as long as the town itself.
00:24:38It's held a lot of memories and of course there's been a lot of
00:24:41emotions today. As Rat residents gathered on the
00:24:44hillside next to me watching it come down after the events of
00:24:48February 10th, I spoke to one resident who
00:24:50came out to watch today's demolition get underway. Here's
00:24:53what Chris Norbury had to say. There's a lot of good lot of
00:24:57good memories here in Tumblr Ridge that have happened at
00:25:00that school. And I think it's very natural that a lot of
00:25:03those past feelings are coming back.
00:25:05But you know, this is going to be the start
00:25:08of the next chapter of Tumblr Ridge and it's and its students,
00:25:11you know, the, you know, the the student body and the
00:25:13teachers had their had their opportunity to say what they
00:25:16wanted and this is what they want. And you know,
00:25:19I stand behind them. And
00:25:25as you just heard from Chris Norbury,
00:25:26students and teachers had a big say in determining the future
00:25:30of this school. The community was also asked for their input
00:25:33and majority supporting tearing down the school
00:25:37is happening for students as they wait for their new school
00:25:40to be built.
00:25:42We also dropped by the Tumblr Ridge Elementary School site
00:25:45just a few blocks away. That's where a temporary modular
00:25:49campus for students has been set up and is being expanded.
00:25:52Crews were building a gathering space today that's going to be
00:25:56open for the new year, the new school year. There's
00:25:59about 8 or 9 classroom pods about, you know,
00:26:022 counseling areas, some offices. There's a mobile
00:26:05trades training classroom that's also been set up. The
00:26:08site behind me, the former secondary school
00:26:11here, is going to be returned
00:26:12to grasp that work will be complete by the fall. Of course,
00:26:15the school district is working on designs and concepts that
00:26:19plans to bring to consultations with the community later this
00:26:22year. And of course, discussions are also going to
00:26:24get underway. But what a future memorial site here in the
00:26:27community might look like. I spoke with Mayor Darrell
00:26:30Krakowska. Here's what he had to say. When we talk about the
00:26:33memorial permit memorial, that'll be dictated by the
00:26:36families that have lost loved ones and as they as they go
00:26:39through their grieving stages and stuff and are prepared to
00:26:42have that conversation into the district. And we'll have a conversation. And with
00:26:45that permanent mural looks like and what location it would like
00:26:48to see that, you know, whether that is where the
00:26:50secondary school was or if it's another place in the community
00:26:53they feel more comfortable with.
00:26:56Michelle, like I said, a lot of emotions here in the
00:26:59community today watching this Tumblr Ridge Secondary School
00:27:02come down and a lot of work still to do to bring some sense
00:27:06of closure and normalcy for students and families.
00:27:11CBC News has learned a lead instructor at a children's
00:27:12hockey camp in the Quarter Lakes worked with kids for much
00:27:16of the summer, even after pleading guilty
00:27:18earlier this year to assaulting two children. As Christian
00:27:21Devino reports, there is no active legislation
00:27:24requiring summer camps to screen staff who work with kids.
00:27:27Since KL Hockey started its summer camp last month,
00:27:29CBC News has learned one of its lead instructors continue to
00:27:33work with kids until last week, despite having pleaded guilty
00:27:36in April to two counts of assaulting children known to
00:27:39him. That instructor is Bradley Gibbs, a Durham Regional Police
00:27:43officer. CBC News spoke with one of the victims,
00:27:45who is now an adult. Fine, said my kid to one of those
00:27:48camps. I would
00:27:50be really concerned we've altered their voice and hidden
00:27:53their identity because it's protected by a court ordered
00:27:56publication ban. They say Gibbs is a cofounder of the camp and
00:27:59believes the camp's owners knew about his guilty pleas. They
00:28:02would never hire someone with a criminal record like that, so
00:28:07I think I want people to agree with me that I'm being fired
00:28:10from this job would be fair. After CBC News reached out to
00:28:14Kyle Hockey and Gibbs, the camp sent an e-mail to
00:28:16parents last week saying Gibbs would no longer be working at
00:28:20the camp. Given the recent attention surrounding this
00:28:22matter, Brad believes that stepping
00:28:24back is in the best interest of our players,
00:28:27families in camp community, wrote camp director Amanda
00:28:30Tales. The e-mail to parents included a letter from Gibbs
00:28:33saying he took full responsibility for a personal
00:28:36legal matter, saying he accepted accountability
00:28:39or my lapse in judgment. Neither Gibbs nor the camp
00:28:41elaborated what the legal matter was in their messages to
00:28:44parents. In a statement to CBC News,
00:28:46Kale Hockey said it would not be making any further comments
00:28:50while the case is still before the courts. Gibbs did not
00:28:53respond to our request for an interview. In Ontario,
00:28:56there is no legislation requiring summer camps to
00:28:58perform security checks of their staff. The Ontario Camps
00:29:02Association says it requires its 400 members to perform
00:29:05criminal background checks, but its membership is voluntary
00:29:08and the association
00:29:10says it does not mandate what action camp leaders should take
00:29:12after those checks are completed. And KL Hockey
00:29:15doesn't have to follow those same standards because it's not
00:29:18a member of the association. The Ministry of Education
00:29:21requires day camps for children under 4 to get a childcare
00:29:24license. Each staff member has to complete a vulnerable
00:29:27sectors check, a deeper screening process that
00:29:29includes criminal background checks for anyone with
00:29:32positions of authority over kids. But camps for older kids
00:29:35don't fall under the ministry scope. This is a big gap in in
00:29:38in the legislation. Putting Tiwari is an employment
00:29:40Blair based out of Toronto. He says Ontario should be
00:29:43mandating vulnerable sector checks for anyone entrusted
00:29:46with caring for children. Parents are entitled to expect
00:29:49a safe system. They are not expected to become private
00:29:52investigators. The camp bears the responsibility to screen,
00:29:55supervise and act on relevant information. The Ministry of
00:29:58Education would not provide answers to our questions asking
00:30:02why these types of checks are not mandated across day and
00:30:05overnight camps and whether there are any safeguards in
00:30:08place to ensure staff and volunteers at these camps do
00:30:11not have criminal convictions.
00:30:12CBC News also asked the Ministry of the Solicitor
00:30:15General whether the province would consider creating that
00:30:18legislation. We did not receive a response. Durham Regional
00:30:21Police told CBC News Gibbs has been redeployed from frontline
00:30:24patrol duties to an administrative role. It said it
00:30:27will determine whether he will be subject to a disciplinary
00:30:30hearing after the outcome of his court case gives us
00:30:33scheduled to be back in court for sentencing next month.
00:30:36Christian Devino, CBC News Lindsey,
00:30:39and we have an update for you on this story. Since CBC's
00:30:42reporting this morning, the government now says it is
00:30:45making changes to camp background checks,
00:30:47telling us that parents deserve to know their children are safe
00:30:50at summer camp and that the employment of a known criminal
00:30:54at a camp is unacceptable. The premier's office says it will
00:30:57now take the action necessary to make it mandatory for summer
00:31:00camps to require criminal background checks. Yeah.
00:31:05PEI RCMP say artificial intelligence is being used to
00:31:07target children and it's happening more often. Police
00:31:11say AI generated or manipulated content makes up about 1/3 of
00:31:16RCMP investigations into child sexual abuse and exploitation
00:31:21material. Approximately 33% of our investigations and material
00:31:25are now involving AI generated material. Under the Criminal
00:31:30Code, child sexual abuse and
00:31:32exploitation material is illegal.
00:31:35There are charges for making, possessing,
00:31:37distributing and accessing this kind of material,
00:31:41and it doesn't matter whether it's AI generated or not.
00:31:45Experts say AI generated images can be based on real children,
00:31:49often using stolen images. If you think about how AI models
00:31:53are created in the 1st place, they basically scrape the
00:31:57Internet. It's a vast vaping operation that indiscriminately
00:32:01vacuums up images all across the Internet. Marcus says it's
00:32:05not just strangers online who are using AI to create illegal
00:32:09content. He says it's been a growing problem in schools with
00:32:13students taking images of their classmates and altering them.
00:32:17With AI, you'll have students who will
00:32:20retrieve innocuous images on social media of their
00:32:23classmates and based on that are able to notify them using a
00:32:27widely available notification. Apps that are powered by
00:32:31generative AI and that are widely available on app stores.
00:32:35Kaiser says it's important
00:32:37the parents to talk to their kids about what it means to
00:32:40post pictures online. As soon as we allowed our children to
00:32:44have devices, which puts them on social media
00:32:47platforms, you have to have those types of
00:32:50conversations about what can happen if you post and what
00:32:54sites you should be on and how to not feel that if you do make
00:32:58these posts. And if something does happen,
00:33:01you shouldn't be afraid to come to a parent and have those
00:33:05types of conversations or somebody you trust
00:33:08about what's going on with you because it's very difficult if
00:33:12you're dealing with something like that alone. Kaiser says
00:33:15parents have to be cautious of what they post online,
00:33:18too. Although it's wonderful to sit and take pictures of her
00:33:21children and and place them on the Internet and show that this
00:33:25is the first day of school and whatnot,
00:33:27we have to be aware that these images
00:33:30can be taken from the Internet and utilized and manipulated in
00:33:33a wide variety of ways. Kaiser says people should be aware of
00:33:37who their audience is and who their posts are visible to. He
00:33:45material should report it to local law enforcement
00:33:48immediately. Gwyneth Egan, CBC News, Charlottetown.
00:35:57In September, the province will roll out its
00:35:59dual practice healthcare model, allowing some positions to
00:36:02practice in both public and private systems. The federal
00:36:05health minister has reached out to the province to ensure the
00:36:08Health Act is protected.
00:36:10A letter was sent to the Alberta government on July 24th.
00:36:13CBC News hasn't reviewed a copy of it,
00:36:16but a spokesperson for Minister Marjorie Michelle shared a
00:36:19statement, adding that she's in advanced
00:36:21talks with Adriana LaGrange to ensure access to medical care
00:36:24is protected. As the guardian of the Canada Health Act,
00:36:28our focus is to protect the integrity of the public
00:36:30healthcare system and ensure that all Canadians,
00:36:33including every Albertan, can receive healthcare based on
00:36:36medical need, not on their ability to pay for
00:36:39it. The province has also issued a statement
00:36:42Ministerial Grange writing that dual practice does not violate
00:36:45the Canada Health Act. She says the act does not prohibit
00:36:48private practice outside the publicly insured system.
00:36:51Albertans who choose to pay privately for eligible elective
00:36:55surgery should be able to do here at home rather than
00:36:58traveling out of province as they've done for decades. Some
00:37:01health policy experts say the two governments could be in for
00:37:05a fight. The Canada Health
00:37:06Act, which is now 42 years old, was originally passed in order
00:37:11to prevent extra billing that physicians in the public system
00:37:15were extra billing in some provinces. They didn't have to
00:37:19necessarily extra bill everybody,
00:37:21but they certainly extra build some patients
00:37:25and Ottawa stepped in and said we need legislation to be very
00:37:29clear, you can't do this. You can't
00:37:31charge for medically necessary services. Alberta is not
00:37:34claiming that these aren't medically necessary services.
00:37:38They're just saying that allowing this separate channel
00:37:41won't compromise the public system. He says if the federal
00:37:45government views Alberta as violating the Health Act,
00:37:48it could claw back health transfers or enforce the
00:37:51financial penalty. Travis McEwen, CBC News, Edmonton.
00:37:57Visit any superstore, No Frills or independent grocer
00:37:59in Saskatchewan and you'll now find beef from Australia on the
00:38:03shelves. You'll also find it's nearly half the price of
00:38:06Canadian beef. Loblaws, which owns the Grocery Outlet,
00:38:09has added the meat as another option for consumers,
00:38:12but it's putting customers in a tough spot. Buy cheap or by
00:38:16Canadian. Well, I think it makes sense if the
00:38:18price is so high that people are going to look to something
00:38:22cheaper. I mean certainly it's not the sustainable options.
00:38:25Last time I tasted
00:38:26if other than ground beef
00:38:30was probably 2 Christmases ago. Would I consider?
00:38:36Probably not, but we'll see
00:38:39at some point I may taste it and see. It's hard to believe
00:38:43they can ship it all the way and it'd be a lot cheaper.
00:38:46Loblaw says it remains committed to supporting
00:38:49Canadian beef producers while providing its customers with
00:38:53choice and value. The head of the Canadian Cattle Association
00:38:56says international beef on the shelf doesn't hurt local
00:39:00producers as their feeding methods make for a different
00:39:03product. The result is is really a product that is leaner,
00:39:07doesn't tend to have, you know, quite the same
00:39:10marbling and you know, and therefore isn't as
00:39:13preferred in well in in Canada as compared to the Canadian
00:39:17produced beef. Fulton says thanks to the Trans Pacific
00:39:20Partnership, Australian exported beef is
00:39:23filling a void here, while Canadian products do
00:39:26better in markets like Japan and Vietnam. But he also thinks
00:39:31the low price of Australian meat in Loblaws grocery stores
00:39:34could hurt the retailer. The other likely big factor here is
00:39:39that, you know, retailers
00:39:40still use a lost leader tactic where they will, you know,
00:39:44drop the price of of a certain product even below what it cost
00:39:49for them to bring it in. And he says that could cost Loblaws
00:39:53money in the end. But for the average grocery shopper,
00:39:57quality and cost will stay in consideration when they get to
00:40:11CBC News, Regina.
00:40:15Quebec oil producer Chantal van Winden says the products coming
00:40:19out of her field are 100% authentic. We're proud of this
00:40:23because we know we're nourishing well,
00:40:25the soul. We also know that we're nourishing well,
00:40:28the humans. This is camelina, an ancient crop in the mustard
00:40:32family. Oil is produced from its seeds. Van Winden says it
00:40:36can be directly traced from this field
00:40:39to the bottle, unlike some olive oil on the
00:40:42Canadian market. People are realizing that there's a big
00:40:46issue with olive oil quality. The Canadian Food Inspection
00:40:49Agency found that in about 1 out of 3 bottles it tested,
00:40:53the olive oil was either tampered with lower quality
00:40:56oils or misrepresented claims that it was extra virgin,
00:40:59unrefined, or cold pressed. In fact,
00:41:02the CFIA says that out of all of the food it tested,
00:41:05olive oil had the lowest compliance rate for
00:41:08authenticity testing. It's why Van Winden
00:41:11and other oil producers wrote an open letter to customers. We
00:41:14have to say to the world, to the to people for to
00:41:18Canadians that we do have other alternative. Olive oil fraud is
00:41:21a worldwide problem. In 2023, cases hit a record high in
00:41:25Europe, olive production has been going
00:41:27down and therefore olive oil production has been going down,
00:41:31which drove up the price. If there's money to be made,
00:41:34chances are people will try at some point. Last year,
00:41:38the CFIA intercepted about 7000 liters of adulterated olive oil,
00:41:42preventing
00:41:43from being sold. Michel Fabozzi says he checks every batch of
00:41:47olive oil he imports.
00:41:51Lab tests confirm its authenticity. Favuzza
00:41:54recommends consumers taste the product before using it. He
00:41:57says it should smell grassy, not like walnuts. The higher
00:42:01the quality, usually the more peppery and
00:42:03bitterness it has because it has more polyphenols,
00:42:06which are antioxidants. Favuzza says the more information is
00:42:10offered on the label, such as harvest date,
00:42:12olive oil variety and place of origin for the better. Gloria
00:42:16Enriquez, CBC News, Montreal.
00:42:20Bridget McGuinness stuffs a new backpack with crayons, pencils,
00:42:23paper and any other classroom necessity you can think of. She
00:42:28says every year the need for Parker Streets Back to School
00:42:31program only grows. The demand is strong,
00:42:34whether it's for food, furniture,
00:42:36the back to school program. We, we do run many various programs
00:42:40and what we're finding is that our lineups are getting longer.
00:42:44This year, the charity will give out up to
00:42:471000 backpacks to children in need.
00:42:50According to the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives,
00:42:53Nova Scotia continues to have one of the highest rates of
00:42:57childhood poverty in the country. That's why Kate
00:43:00Peppler's organization is also handing out backpacks to
00:43:04students identified by community and school social
00:43:07workers. So when you're already in a vulnerable situation or
00:43:10already low income, the added stress of how am I
00:43:13going to get my kids what they need to thrive at school and
00:43:17can be a big stressor on families. Last year,
00:43:20the Nova Scotia
00:43:22government made a permanent boost to income assistance to
00:43:25help with school related costs. In August,
00:43:28eligible families will receive an additional $100 per child
00:43:32aged 5 to 12 and $200 per child aged 13 to 18. But local
00:43:36charities must still fill in the gaps. Peppler thinks Nova
00:43:40Scotia should consider covering the cost of all essential
00:43:45school supplies for students like what's done in PEI.
00:43:48There's always more supports that can be offered,
00:43:52more that can be done. In Cape Breton,
00:43:54several community groups are coming together to distribute
00:43:582500 free backpacks with supplies to students across the
00:44:01island. I spoke to a single mom of three kids yesterday and she
00:44:05she was in tears. And she just, she simply looked at me and she
00:44:09said
00:44:10if it was going to be this or gas in my car or maybe less
00:44:13food on my table and a little girl,
00:44:16her backpack. And she dropped to the knees and said,
00:44:19this is so beautiful. And that's why we're here doing
00:44:22what we do because we love helping people. As the new
00:44:26school year inches closer, the organizations are still
00:44:29welcoming monetary and physical donations to help support those
00:44:33who need it most. Selena Alders, CBC News, Halifax.
00:46:39As another tariff deadline looms,
00:46:40this Abbotsford business owner is worried it poses an
00:46:44existential threat to my business. On any given month,
00:46:48I shipped 25 to 50% of my sales to United States.
00:46:54Blaine Marini's business manufacturers wallpaper,
00:46:57stickers and decals. His products are among nearly $28
00:47:00billion worth of Canadian goods the US is threatening to slap
00:47:0450% tariffs on come Wednesday. I have to either adapt or it'll
00:47:08mean changes to the way I do business here,
00:47:10which could include staff changes,
00:47:14even fast to ship orders before the tariff deadline. It
00:47:17actually has been overwhelming. I think about it every day.
00:47:21International tensions causing major concerns,
00:47:23especially for local businesses here in Abbotsford with its
00:47:27close cross-border ties, manufacturing and agriculture.
00:47:30We've got more than 300 businesses that are exporting
00:47:33to the United States. There's about a $1.5 billion in annual
00:47:36exports just out of Abbotsford alone. Mitchell says many of
00:47:40those exporters are up to 90% reliant on the US market. When
00:47:43there's this constantly
00:47:45changing tariff landscape, it's very challenging for
00:47:47customers and suppliers to continue to maintain those
00:47:50excellent trading relationships. the US claims it's imposing the
00:47:54tariffs because of Canadian discrimination toward its
00:47:57automobile, dairy and alcohol sectors. For
00:47:59example, it wants US liquor back on the
00:48:01shelves A provincially run stores. Ottawa is still pushing
00:48:05for an agreement with Washington. A key priority is
00:48:07to have Trump lower existing sectorial tariffs that have
00:48:10been punishing the steel, aluminum,
00:48:12auto and lumber industries. So a lot of companies are already
00:48:16dealing with this, where they've had to do layoffs,
00:48:19restructuring, unknown if they're going to be
00:48:22able to to survive, you know, this next, you know,
00:48:24wave that we're dealing with. Canada's Prime Minister is
00:48:28expected to speak to Trump in the next 48 hours,
00:48:31leaving business owners at the mercy of ongoing negotiations
00:48:34beneath breach. CBC News, Abbotsford.
00:48:39Many Canadian businesses are on edge today. There are just
00:48:41hours to spare for Canada to strike a trade deal with the
00:48:44United States before punishing new tariffs take effect. And
00:48:47that includes my next guest, Jean Philippe. Robert is the
00:48:51president of Quartz Co, a sustainable Canadian
00:48:53outerwear company, and we've reached him in
00:49:06terms of the US market. Just how much will this impact your
00:49:09business?
00:49:11So right now we're at 15% of our total sales that go down to
00:49:15the US We, we're, we're lucky enough to be to
00:49:18have worked on diversification, geographical diversification
00:49:23since you know, we bought the company 10 years
00:49:26ago. There's a large appetite in Europe and Asia for Adaware,
00:49:30but you know US remain a very important market at 15% in
00:49:34retail, every sale counts and it's a
00:49:37huge potential market also for the growth of the business.
00:49:41So now as we approach this trade deadline,
00:49:44how have you been preparing for that?
00:49:46What's your plan if the tariff comes into effect?
00:49:50Well, the number one thing we can do
00:49:52is go harder at the Canadian market. And this is something
00:49:56we've been advocating for the past, you know, ever since this,
00:50:00this, this trade war started. Just
00:50:02important for Canadians to buy Canadian and, and really to, to,
00:50:06to become conscious when they make purchase decisions. So
00:50:10that's, that's something we can all
00:50:12work on. I think. So we're investing in Canada,
00:50:15that's for sure. And then you know we're a bit more
00:50:19aggressive with the rest of our
00:50:21over other markets spending more,
00:50:23investing more before that noise kind of fades down with
00:50:27the US
00:50:29mentioned however, of course is part of your sales,
00:50:3315% is not minuscule chunk by any stretch of the imagination.
00:50:37So how will you continue to sell to your US customers if
00:50:41that's even a possibility? What have you heard from them
00:50:45because you might be having to on pass that 50% tariff on to
00:50:49them. Yeah, that's a great question because
00:50:53the the US consumer doesn't quite understand why there's
00:50:57inflation on her on her prices. So when we have these
00:51:00conversations either with stores or when we have
00:51:03consumers shopping directly on our ecom,
00:51:05they don't quite understand why we have to hide the prices so
00:51:09up. And we say it's out of your control. We try to explain,
00:51:13but it's interesting to me that the American consumer doesn't
00:51:17really get why. And you know, our jackets made in Canada
00:51:20jacket cell
00:51:22between 1000 and $1500 to can only imagine that a 50%
00:51:25increase on top of that is a significant chunk of the of the
00:51:29price. So really hard conversations to,
00:51:32to have in some cases, we'll have to, you know,
00:51:35shut down some, some items on their website,
00:51:38which we did from time to time during the,
00:51:41during this trade war war already.
00:51:45And we kind of hope that the, the Canadian government would,
00:51:48will come to a resolution with the US government so we can
00:51:51start shipping again, because at 50%, it's really,
00:51:54really high. So there's, it's hard to find a way around
00:51:57really. So when you're saying that during different sort of
00:52:00portions of this trade war, you've had to shut down sort of
00:52:04part of the sales to the United States. Is that primarily
00:52:07because with that 50% tariff rate or whatever the previous
00:52:10tariff rate was for your particular product,
00:52:12US consumers were just not buying in anymore. There was
00:52:16such a significant drop in the sales South of the border.
00:52:19Yeah, for sure. There's a lot of push
00:52:22and it starts here. We are a wholesale business. So we sell,
00:52:25we, we sell to to retailers within
00:52:28the reseller business. So that's number one. So you can
00:52:31only it's, it's B2B conversations that
00:52:34that you need to have. And then it's, you know, it's, it's,
00:52:37it's, it's almost impossible then to ship.
00:52:41When you do try to explain why this sort of cost is being on
00:52:45past, what sort of response do you
00:52:47get? Well, it seems like everyone's kind
00:52:51of passing the ball to each other and kind of kind of
00:52:54it's, it's solar control, right? Even my retailer is it is out
00:52:58of their control and they're and they're strongly against it
00:53:01because it affects their business,
00:53:03not only with my brand, but with all that the other
00:53:06brands that they are at they're carrying in their store. So
00:53:09it's really affects the business. It's a big disruptor
00:53:12doesn't allow them to invest a plan just as we do. So I think
00:53:16that's that's something better negotiation team has to to
00:53:20that has to tell the, you know, the other side that the
00:53:23Americans don't really want it. They are being forced to to
00:53:26live with it.
00:53:28Finally, I wanted to ask you, certainly the timing of all of
00:53:32this matters. Retailers are frequently a season ahead when
00:53:36it comes to supplying and sales and we are approaching the
00:53:39winter sale. As well. How much of a hit do you think your
00:53:43business could potentially take if these tariffs go into play?
00:53:48As I mentioned, we so we it's 15%,
00:53:50I think it's going to be this 15% can come down to 0 if the
00:53:54the ferrets do come into effect. The retail business as you
00:53:58mentioned are are planning one season in advance. So we
00:54:02produced the past six months to ship basically in the next two
00:54:06weeks and over the next couple of months. So
00:54:10means that the inventory will, will remain higher. It creates
00:54:14all sorts of problem on cash flow,
00:54:16on future production and all these sorts of thing. And I
00:54:19know we're not the, the, the only company in that
00:54:22situation. So very worrying. We're not panicking yet. We, we,
00:54:26we think that Canada can prevail. And you know, this,
00:54:29this has been the case in this, in this trade war since the
00:54:33beginning. So we still have hope that there will be a
00:54:52president of Quartz Cohen. We reached him today in Knowlton,
00:54:55Quebec. Thanks again.
01:00:03My favorite word? Tariff. How seriously are you
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