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00:00:27(♪) >> Adrienne: BREAKING TONIGHT, DONALD TRUMP FIRES BACK WITH THE
00:00:31DRAMATIC ESCALATION OF HIS TRADE
00:00:31WAR AGAINST CANADA.
00:00:36THE SWEEPING SERIES OF NEW TRADE MEASURES TARGETING CANADIAN
00:00:39PRODUCTS AFTER MARK CARNEY WARNS THE COUNTRY OF A DIFFICULT ROAD AHEAD.
00:00:43>> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE'S
00:00:44ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION, BUT IT
00:00:49DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE COST OF STANDING STILL. >> Adrienne: WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE WITH
00:00:53ANALYSIS FROM WASHINGTON AND OTTAWA, AND A SPECIAL EDITION OF "AT ISSUE" WITH THE POLITICS
00:00:56BEHIND THE ESCALATING TRADE WAR. PLUS THE IMPACT ON CONSUMERS
00:01:00ALREADY BEING FELT. >> THIS ONE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE,
00:01:02WENT UP FROM JUST OVER $9 TO
00:01:04OVER $11 NOW.
00:01:07>> Adrienne:HOW CANADA'S COUNTER-TARIFFS AGAINST THE U.S.
00:01:09COULD HIT YOUR
00:01:12BOTTOM LINE. >> I JUST THINK THAT IT'S GOING
00:01:16TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. >> Adrienne: WHAT ALL OF THIS MEANS FOR CANADA'S ECONOMY ALREADY UNDER SIEGE. (♪) >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS, THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH
00:01:19CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. (♪)
00:01:23>> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >>> WELL, TONIGHT THE
00:01:26BLOW-FOR-BLOW TRADE WAR WITH THE U.S. HAS HIT A NEW LEVEL OF
00:01:28INTENSITY.
00:01:33WASHINGTON ANNOUNCING NOT JUST NEW TARIFFS BUT COMPLETE IMPORT BANS ON A RANGE OF
00:01:37CANADIAN GOODS. AMONG THE PRODUCTS, CHEESE, MOST ALCOHOL, EVEN MOTORCYCLES MADE
00:01:40IN CANADA.
00:01:42ALL PROHIBITED FOR SALE IN THE
00:01:45U.S. AS OF SEPTEMBER 29TH. THIS IS JUST AFTER THE PRIME
00:01:47MINISTER IN A MESSAGE TRIED TO BRACE THE COUNTRY FOR THE FIGHT AHEAD.
00:01:51AND AFTER CANADA'S COUNTER-TARIFFS ON BILLIONS WORTH OF U.S. GOODS SNAPPED INTO
00:01:54PLACE. SO TO BEGIN, WE TURN TO KATIE
00:01:58SIMPSON IN WASHINGTON WHO LEARNED THE LATEST TONIGHT ON A
00:02:02CALL WITH THE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL.
00:02:06SO, KATIE, LET'S START WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THIS LATEST MOVE. >> Reporter: IT'S A SHARP
00:02:09ESCALATION. CONSIDER IT A NEW FRONT IN THIS TRADE WAR. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
00:02:13ORDERING THREE SIGNIFICANT MOVES HERE.
00:02:16ONE, A BAN ON IMPORTING SOME CANADIAN GOODS, INCLUDING MOST
00:02:19CANADIAN ALCOHOL PRODUCTS. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH.
00:02:21AS WELL AS MOTORCYCLES.
00:02:26TWO, ATTEMPTING TO LIMIT THE PURCHASE OF CANADIAN GOODS BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
00:02:29AND, THREE, THERE'S A SHIFT -- CHANGES TO SOME OF THE PRODUCTS THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
00:02:33HIT WITH 50% TARIFFS. THE PRODUCT BANS ARE SET TO
00:02:36BEGIN IN THREE WEEKS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
00:02:39JUSTIFYING THE MOVE BY SAYING
00:02:42CANADA CONTINUES TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST CERTAIN AMERICAN GOODS
00:02:44AND SECTORS. SECTION 338 OF THE TARIFF ACT TO
00:02:48GET ALL TECHNICAL ABOUT IT.
00:02:50IT'S THE SAME JUSTIFICATION FOR THOSE SWEEPING 50% TARIFFS THAT
00:02:53KICKED IN LAST MONTH. SOME NEW CANADIAN GOODS ARE
00:02:56BEING HIT BY TARIFFS AS WELL. MATTRESSES, LAMPS, MOTOR BOATS
00:03:00AND GOLF CARTS AND BAMBOO FURNITURE.
00:03:04SOME ITEMS ARE COMING OFF OF THE LIST, CEMENT AND ROAD SALT AND
00:03:06CERTAIN HOSPITAL PRODUCTS.
00:03:08WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, IT IS A CLEAR SIGN THIS DISPUTE IS
00:03:11INTENSIFYING.
00:03:15THE U.S. MAKING AN EXAMPLE OF CANADA -- WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A
00:03:18COUNTRY RETALIATES. SENIOR TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
00:03:20OFFICIALS TOLD REPORTERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, IT'S A WAY TO
00:03:23LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. >> Adrienne: SO, KATIE, AS I
00:03:26UNDERSTAND IT DURING THAT PHONE CALL YOU GOT A QUESTION IN WITH
00:03:30THE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL. WHAT DID YOU ASK, AND WHAT DID THEY SAY?
00:03:33>> Reporter: YEAH, I ASKED ABOUT CUSMA, THE CANADA-U.S.-MEXICO
00:03:36TRADE AGREEMENT, THE ONE THAT ALL THREE COUNTRIES STILL NEED TO RENEW.
00:03:40I ASKED WHETHER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PLANS TO EXIT THE
00:03:43DEAL BY GIVING A SIX-MONTH WARNING THAT IT WANTS OUT.
00:03:47THE SENIOR OFFICIAL DOWNPLAYED THAT POSSIBILITY, SAYING THAT
00:03:49THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE U.S. WANTS TO
00:03:53CHANGE, CERTAIN POLICIES AROUND
00:03:56THE AUTO SECTOR SPECIFICALLY. BUT FOR NOW THE TARIFFS THAT THE U.S. IS IMPOSING ON STEEL AND
00:04:00ALUMINUM AND THE AUTO SECTOR -- THAT IS VIEWED BY THE WHITE
00:04:04HOUSE AS A WAY TO REMEDY THOSE AMERICAN CONCERNS.
00:04:07WHILE CANADA VERY MUCH WANTS TO KEEP THIS DEAL ALIVE IT URGENTLY WANTS THOSE TARIFFS TO COME TO
00:04:11AN END. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT'S KATIE SIMPSON IN
00:04:14WASHINGTON TONIGHT.
00:04:17>>> OKAY, SO NOW LET'S GO RIGHT TO PETER ARMSTRONG HERE IN STUDIO. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
00:04:21READING THE DOCUMENT AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TEXTING WITH BUSINESS LEADERS.
00:04:25JUST FROM LOOKING AT IT FROM AFAR, DEFINITELY AN ESCALATION,
00:04:28BUT IT ALSO FEELS LIKE A SHIFT IN TACTICS.
00:04:30>> Reporter: I THINK THAT IS A
00:04:33GREAT WAY OF PUTTING IT. AND IT IS NOT JUST IN TACTICS BUT THE
00:04:37TOOLS THAT THEY'RE USING, RIGHT?
00:04:38THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS OF
00:04:41SQUEEZING THE CANADIAN CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. AND IT'S NOT JUST TARIFFS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYMORE.
00:04:45WE'RE ADDING IN BANS AND EXCLUSIONS AND IT STARTED --
00:04:46REMEMBER THE BOMBARDIER THREAT
00:04:51TO PREVENT THE SALE OF BOMBARDIER PLANES, THAT WAS ON MONDAY. AND THIS AFTERNOON THEY WERE
00:04:53TALKING ABOUT EXCLUDING CANADIAN GOVERNMENTS FROM SOME GOVERNMENT
00:04:56PROCUREMENT. NOW WE'RE GETTING A LIST OF OUTRIGHT BANS AND OUTRIGHT
00:04:59EXCLUSIONS.
00:05:02IT REALLY DOES SORT OF DRAG THIS
00:05:06CONFLICT INTO A WHOLE NEW CATEGORY AND A SUITE OF TACTICS THAT THE U.S.
00:05:09GOVERNMENT CAN USE TO TRY TO LEVERAGE THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT
00:05:12INTO MAKING DIFFERENT DECISIONS. >> Adrienne: CAN YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND IF A HUGE LIST ALSO TRANSLATES TO A HUGE IMPACT? >> Reporter: IT DOESN'T
00:05:16NECESSARILY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTICE THAT.
00:05:19AND WHERE IT WASN'T A HUGE IMPACT IN THE FIRST TRANCHE OF TARIFFS AND WHERE IT HIT, IT HIT
00:05:23HARD. I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE
00:05:26WHO SAY ALUMINUM IMPORTERS THAT
00:05:28USE ALUMINUM DERIVATIVES, THEY
00:05:31ARE GO GOIN GOING TO FEEL THIS.
00:05:37BUT NOT EVERYONE WILL. BUT IT'S THE UNCERTAINTY. AND IT'S THE SENSE THAT WE'RE INTO THIS ESCALATORY CYCLE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN THE TALKS FELL APART. IF THAT SORT OF CONTINUES,
00:05:41THAT'S THE REAL TROUBLE.
00:05:43IT'S NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL
00:05:46TARIFF CODE OR THE SPECIFIC
00:05:48PRODUCT, IT IS THE SENSE THAT WE'RE IN AN ESCALATORY CYCLE AND
00:05:52THOSE CAN BE REALLY HARD TO FIND YOUR WAY OUT OF IT. >> Adrienne: BUT THE OPTIMIST
00:05:53SAYS, AH-HA, THERE'S A FEW WEEKS
00:05:56UNTIL THESE COME INTO EFFECT AND SURELY THAT'S A WINDOW THAT WILL
00:05:59MAKE A DIFFERENCE? >> Reporter: HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE.
00:06:03AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT
00:06:06THEY'VE BEEN TALKING MORE THAN WE THINK THAT WE KNEW LEADING INTO. THIS BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO CARVE AWAY OUT OF THAT ESCALATORY CYCLE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT EVERY
00:06:10STEP THAT'S BEEN TAKEN SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAST 24
00:06:13HOURS, AND EVERY STEP IS A STEP FURTHER FROM WHERE WE WERE, AND,
00:06:17YEAH, THE DEAL FELL APART BUT THERE WAS BROAD AGREEMENT ON
00:06:19WHAT THAT DEAL COULD BE AND BOTH SIDES HAD A SENSE THAT IT WAS
00:06:21REACHABLE. WE ARE VERY FAR FROM THAT TABLE
00:06:24TONIGHT AND EVERY STEP THAT WE HAVE TAKEN REALLY PUSHES US
00:06:26FURTHER FROM IT.
00:06:29>> Adrienne:OKAY, SUFFICE IT TO SAY, MORE TO COME. PETER ARMSTRONG, THANK YOU.
00:06:33>> Reporter: YOU BET. >> Adrienne: SO NOW LET'S TURN
00:06:37TO OTTAWA AND ASHLEY BURKE. SO, ASHLEY, SO FAR WHAT ARE WE HEARING IN REACTION TO THE ESCALATION FROM THE U.S.?
00:06:40>> Reporter: WELL, ADRIENNE, THE CANADA-U.S. TRADE MINISTER
00:06:43IS CALLING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST MOVES
00:06:46UNJUSTIFIED. DOMINIC LeBLANC SAYS THEY'RE ASSESSING THE AMERICAN MEASURES
00:06:50AND WHEN THE U.S. IS READY TO ENGAGE, OUR GOVERNMENT WILL WORK
00:06:53IN GOOD-FAITH CONSTRUCTIVELY
00:06:56TOWARDS A MORE SECURE AND MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TRADING
00:06:59RELATIONSHIP THAT FULLY RESPECTS CANADIAN SOVEREIGNTY. EARLIER THE PRIME MINISTER MADE
00:07:02IT CLEAR THAT THIS TRADE WAR
00:07:04WON'T BE EASY.
00:07:08HOURS BEFORE THE U.S. ANNOUNCED ITS OWN ESCALATION, THE PRIME
00:07:10MINISTER RELEASED HIS OWN VIDEO
00:07:12TO SEND A MESSAGE DIRECTLY TO CANADIANS.
00:07:16>> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE CAN'T LET AMERICAN GOODS INTO CANADA TARIFF FREE. >> Reporter: MARK CARNEY
00:07:18DEFENDED HIS COUNTER-TARIFFS THAT PROVOKED DONALD TRUMP. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: I DON'T
00:07:22BELIEVE IN ESCALATING THE CONFLICT. THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTIVE.
00:07:26BUT OUR TARIFFS ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT OUR WORKERS, PROTECT OUR
00:07:29COMPANIES, AND OUR COMMUNITIES. >> Reporter: IN THE VIDEO,
00:07:33CARNEY WENT BACK IN HISTORY TO SHOW HOW CANADA OVERCAME
00:07:36AMERICAN THREATS BEFORE AND PLANS TO AGAIN TODAY BY BECOMING
00:07:39LESS RELIANT ON THE U.S. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE HAVE
00:07:43EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO PIVOT
00:07:44AND PROSPER.
00:07:47THAT PIVOT WILL COME AT A COST. THERE'S ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION.
00:07:51BUT IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE
00:07:52COST OF STANDING STILL.
00:07:55>> QUÉBEC WILL NOT BACK DOWN IN
00:07:57THE FACE OF TRUMP.
00:08:00>> Reporter:THEY ANNOUNCED A
00:08:01BAN ON IMPORTS, INCLUDING DARE
00:08:05PRODUCTS. >> ANY BANS ON EXPORTS THAT WE
00:08:07DO HAVE, HOWEVER SMALL THEY ARE,
00:08:10HAVE A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT FROM
00:08:12THE PROCESSORS TO US, THE DAIRY FARMER.
00:08:15>> Reporter: DONALD TRUMP ALSO ADDED MORE CANADIAN PRODUCTS TO
00:08:18HIS LIST OF 50% TARIFFS FOR THE
00:08:20FIRST TIME AND TOOK OTHERS OFF.
00:08:23>> THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL FOR MANUFACTURERS OF
00:08:26THOSE PRODUCTS BUT I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING ALSO THAT THE
00:08:28UNITED STATES REMOVED QUIETLY A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS THAT THEY HIT
00:08:32JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, INCLUDING CEMENT.
00:08:35>> QUÉBEC WILL NOT BACK DOWN IN THE FACE OF TRUMP.
00:08:39>> Reporter: QUÉBEC'S PREMIER WAS ALREADY WARNING OF HARD TIMES AHEAD BEFORE THE TRUMP
00:08:42ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST MOVE TO BAN CERTAIN IMPORTS.
00:08:45>> WE WILL USE EVERY TOOL
00:08:48AVAILABLE TO THE STATE TO BUY
00:08:49MORE QUÉBEC-MADE PRODUCTS. >> THE PRESIDENT IS CLEARLY
00:08:53UNHINGED. >> Reporter: B.C.'S PREMIER ALSO UNVEILED HIS NEW SIGNS AT THE
00:08:57BORDER, SAYING THAT CANADA WILL
00:08:58NEVER BE THE 51ST STATE.
00:09:02>> NOW IN THIS MOMENT WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO THINK CAREFULLY
00:09:05ABOUT WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS.
00:09:06AND THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SOON SEE
00:09:09A REFRESHED CAMPAIGN, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BUY B.C.
00:09:13>> Reporter: AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ASSESSES TRUMP'S LATEST MOVES IT'S CONTINUING TO
00:09:17FACE CALLS FROM THE CONSERVATIVES TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND RECALL
00:09:20PARLIAMENT EARLY.
00:09:21>> Adrienne: SO, ASHLEY, THAT
00:09:26POINT WHERE ARE THESE TRADE TALK?
00:09:30>> Reporter: HE'S IN TALK WITH HIS AMERICAN COUNTERPART
00:09:33JAMIESON GREER BUT SO FAR THERE'S NO SIGN OF THEM GETTING BACK TO THE TABLE AS THEY LOOK
00:09:37INTO THE IMPACT OF TRUMP'S LATEST ACTIONS.
00:09:41>> Adrienne: ASHLEY BURKE IN OTTAWA. SO NOW LET'S TURN TO CHIEF
00:09:44POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON, ALSO IN OTTAWA.
00:09:47ROSIE, WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE THE
00:09:49PRIME MINISTER AND THE
00:09:53GOVERNMENT.
00:09:59>> Rosemary: CANADIANS LARGELY SUPPORT HOW HE HANDLED THINGS AND THE FACT THAT HE WALKED AWAY
00:10:03FROM THE TALKS ENTIRELY. BUT WHAT YOU SAW IN THE VIDEO FROM THE PRIME MINISTER WAS A
00:10:06COUPLE OF THINGS. AGAIN, TRYING TO SHAPE THE NARRATIVE AROUND WHAT THE
00:10:10AMERICANS WANTED AND HOW MUCH THEY WERE ASKING FOR AND I WAS
00:10:13REALLY STRUCK BY A LINE THAT WAS USED BY THE PRIME MINISTER WHERE
00:10:15HE SAID THAT U.S. WANTED DEPENDENCY, AND NOT A TRUE
00:10:19ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP. SO HE SEES THESE COUNTER-TARIFFS
00:10:22NOT AS AN ESCALATION ON HIS PART
00:10:24BUT AS A NECESSARY RESPONSE.
00:10:27SECONDLY, THE RECOGNITION BY THE P.M. THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GET MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR
00:10:31CANADIANS HERE AND WITH THIS RESPONSE FROM THE U.S. TONIGHT, THAT WILL CUT DEEPER.
00:10:34THERE HAS BEEN ECONOMIC SUPPORT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. AND THERE WILL BE MORE.
00:10:37BUT THIS DECISION IS NOT GOING TO COME WITHOUT SOME ECONOMIC
00:10:40PAIN FOR CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES AS YOU HEARD FROM PETER.
00:10:43CERTAINLY, JOB LOSSES. AND WITH WASHINGTON GOING TO
00:10:46IMPORT BANS NOW, WE DON'T REALLY
00:10:49KNOW HOW MUCH FURTHER THIS IS GOING TO GO.
00:10:51CANADIANS MAY BE ON SIDE FOR NOW
00:10:54LONG THAT PATIENCE WILL LAST AND
00:10:59HOW LONG SOME OF THESE POLICIES THAT
00:11:01THE GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING IN PLACE WILL TAKE TO SHOW UP IN THE CANADIAN ECONOMY AND IN THEIR OWN LIVES.
00:11:05>> Adrienne: ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT, THAT IS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON JOINING US FROM OTTAWA.
00:11:08AND ROSIE WILL BE BACK ALONG WITH A SPECIAL EDITION OF "AT
00:11:11ISSUE" AND IT'S THE FIRST OF THE SEASON SPECIFICALLY TO TACKLE
00:11:14THIS LATEST ESCALATION AND THE POLITICS OF THIS TRADE WAR.
00:11:16THAT IS COMING UP.
00:11:20>>> SO IT'S A GOOD MOMENT TO BRING IN RALPH GOODALE, A MEMBER
00:11:21OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
00:11:26CANADA-U.S. ECONOMIC RELATIONS. HE IS JOINING US FROM REGINA.
00:11:30HE'S SEEN A LOT OF THINGS OVER TIME. AND, RALPH, I'M WONDERING THIS LIST WHEN YOU FIRST LOOK AT IT AS A LAYPERSON, IT'S HUGE AND
00:11:32IT'S CONFUSING.
00:11:36CAN YOU HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME THINGS ARE TARGETED IN PARTICULAR AND WHAT THE MESSAGE
00:11:39MAY BE IN THOSE THINGS?
00:11:43>> IT WILL -- IT WILL TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF CAREFUL ANALYSIS, AND I'M SURE THAT WORK IS BEING
00:11:46DONE RIGHT NOW BY THE
00:11:48GOVERNMENT, BY THE PROVINCES AND
00:11:51BY INDUSTRY OFFICIALS.
00:11:53BY LABOUR ORGINISATIONS TO DETERMINE WHERE ALL OF THE PUTS
00:11:57AND TAKES ARE.
00:12:00THE MOST SEVERE PUNISHMENT SEEMS TO BE AIMED AT DAIRY AND LIQUOR
00:12:02AND MOTORCYCLES.
00:12:07BUT THERE'S SOME RELIEF ON CEMENT AND SALTS AND TOILET PAPER.
00:12:10IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO
00:12:12MAKE SOME SENSE OF THAT -- OF
00:12:16THAT HODGEPODGE OF MEASURES. THE PRIME MINISTER THOUGH
00:12:20PREDICTED THAT THINGS WERE GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR A PERIOD OF
00:12:22TIME. HE ALSO SAID THAT WE NEEDED TO
00:12:26BE PREPARED FOR EVERY EVENTUALITY.
00:12:29I THINK THAT THE BEST ADVICE
00:12:32HERE IS TO KEEP CALM, CARRY ON. CANADA HAS BEEN METICULOUS, WE
00:12:35HAVE BEEN STRATEGIC IN OUR
00:12:38APPROACH TO THIS HORRIBLE
00:12:41PROBLEM UP UNTIL THIS POINT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED
00:12:45TO DO NOW -- IDENTIFY THE DEGREE OF ESCALATION THAT'S EMBEDDED
00:12:48HERE.
00:12:50AND TO DETERMINE THE EXACT
00:12:54IMPACTS AND WHERE THEY FALL.
00:12:57AND I SUSPECT THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S FIRST FOCUS WILL BE IN DETERMINING WHERE THEY NEED TO
00:13:01INCREASE THE SUPPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR CANADIAN BUSINESS,
00:13:03FOR CANADIAN WORKERS, FOR THE CANADIAN ECONOMY TO GET THROUGH
00:13:06THIS ROUGH PATCH.
00:13:09THE PRIME MINISTER SAID THAT WE'VE GOT TO STAND TOGETHER AND
00:13:12TO HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACKS. SO BUY CANADIAN IS A VERY
00:13:15IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
00:13:17>> Adrienne: I APPRECIATE HOW EARLY THIS MOMENT IS, WE'RE IN
00:13:21AN ERA OF EVERYBODY WANTS INSTANT ANALYSIS AND I APOLOGISE
00:13:23FOR WANTING SOME AS WELL.
00:13:25DO YOU HAVE AN INSTINCT ABOUT WHICH REGION IS PARTICULARLY
00:13:29CONCERNED TONIGHT?
00:13:34>> YOU KNOW, I -- I THINK -- I
00:13:36THINK THAT WE ALL NEED TO SHARE
00:13:40A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AT THIS -- AT THIS IMPORTANT MOMENT FOR
00:13:42CANADA.
00:13:45OUR COUNTRY IS CLEARLY BEING
00:13:50ATTACKED IN AN ECONOMIC SENSE.
00:13:54THE OBJECTIVE IS OBVIOUSLY TO
00:13:57WEAKEN THE CANADIAN ECONOMY AND EVENTUALLY TO PURSUE THAT
00:14:00BIZARRE NOTION OF ANNEXATION.
00:14:04WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND TO
00:14:07BE UNIFIED, WHETHER IT'S OUR PARTICULAR REGION THAT'S BEING
00:14:11HIT, OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S.
00:14:15THIS IS ALL THE SAME COUNTRY. SO THOSE SUPPORT PROGRAMMES HAVE
00:14:18TO BE STRONG, THEY HAVE TO BE QUICK, AND THEY HAVE TO BE
00:14:20EFFECTIVE, AND THE
00:14:23COUNTERMEASURES NEED TO BE
00:14:25STRATEGIC AND INTELLIGENT. AND SO THAT -- SO THAT THEY
00:14:29DELIVER THE RIGHT MESSAGE, MOST
00:14:30PARTICULARLY BUY CANADIAN.
00:14:33WE NEED TO GET OUR AMERICAN
00:14:36CUSTOMERS AND SUPPLIERS AND COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS TO TALK
00:14:40TO THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT MORE VIGOROUSLY ABOUT HOW THEIR
00:14:44GOVERNMENT IS DOING DAMAGE TO THEM, NOT JUST US.
00:14:47AND WE NEED TO BUILD OUT THE CANADIAN ECONOMY SO THAT IT CAN
00:14:51WITHSTAND AND BE STRONGER FOR THE FUTURE. >> Adrienne: AS YOU TALK, I'M
00:14:54REMINDED OF WHAT JEAN CHRÉTIEN SAID ON THE WEEKEND, WHICH IS,
00:14:57YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THE AMERICANS DON'T BUY ANYTHING THEY DON'T NEED. >> EXACTLY.
00:15:02>> Adrienne: SO AT SOME POINT THEY WILL NEED SOMETHING. THREE WEEKS -- THIS SEEMS TO BE
00:15:05THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO
00:15:09STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING WITHIN
00:15:10THREE WEEKS?
00:15:14>> WELL, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE
00:15:16SOME CONVERSATIONS AT A SENIOR
00:15:19LEVEL TO SEE WHETHER FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS STAGE IS, IN FACT, USEFUL.
00:15:23AND THE AMERICANS WOULD HAVE TO
00:15:25SEND SOME SIGNALS TO THE
00:15:28CANADIAN SIDE THAT THIS ATTITUDE
00:15:32OF SUBJUGATION AND DOMINANCE ON
00:15:34THEIR SIDE OF THE BORDER IS NO
00:15:37LONGER THEIR MODUS OPERANDI AND
00:15:42THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY READY FOR A REASONABLE, BALANCED, FAIR
00:15:45AGREEMENT, LEGALLY BINDING -- NOT JUST A TRADE DEAL ON THE
00:15:47BACK OF AN ENVELOPE -- BUT A
00:15:49LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENT THAT IS RESPECTABLE AND WORKABLE AND
00:15:53ECONOMIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. >> Adrienne: HOW MUCH MORE DOES
00:15:56CANADA HAVE IN THE ARSENAL AS IT
00:15:59WERE -- YOU'RE AT THE TABLE AND
00:16:00YOU'RE AT THIS ADVISORY COUNCIL.
00:16:04DO THEY EVER TALK ABOUT EXPORT TAX ON ENERGY, POTASH?
00:16:07>> I THINK -- I THINK THAT THE
00:16:10MINDSET IS THAT, UH, WHEN WE'RE
00:16:13IN THIS KIND OF A -- OF A BATTLE THAT IS TENDING TO BE
00:16:17EXISTENTIAL IN ITS IMPLICATIONS THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ON THE
00:16:20TABLE.
00:16:22WE WOULD MAKE OUR STRATEGIC
00:16:24DECISIONS HOPEFULLY IN AN INTELLIGENT WAY ABOUT WHEN TO DO
00:16:27WHAT.
00:16:33BUT YOU DON'T TIE ANY OF YOUR POTENTIAL ARMS BEHIND YOUR BACK
00:16:36BEFORE YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF A SITUATION THAT YOU'RE
00:16:38FACING. >> Adrienne: SO IT'S NOT A NO?
00:16:42>> IT'S NOT A NO. NO. >> Adrienne: OKAY, THANK YOU.
00:16:45THAT'S RALPH GOODALE, A MEMBER OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
00:16:48CANADA-U.S. ECONOMIC RELATIONS.
00:16:53>> SO WHERE DOES ALL OF THIS LEAVE CONSUMER?
00:16:56AS WE HEARD EARLIER, OTTAWA'S
00:17:00COUNTER-TARIFFS HAVE CANADIANS PRETTY ANXIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH THOSE MEASURES WILL COST THEM. NISHA PATEL NOW WITH WHY PRICES COULD GO UP AND WHAT YOU COULD DO ABOUT IT.
00:17:04>> Reporter: PRICES ARE ALREADY GOING UP AT THIS OSHAWA,
00:17:06ONTARIO, FLOORING STORE.
00:17:09>> THIS ONE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WENT FROM JUST OVER $9 TO OVER
00:17:11$11 NOW. >> Reporter: MOST OF THE CARPETS
00:17:14HERE ARE IMPORTED FROM THE U.S.
00:17:18AND NOW HAVE BEEN HIT BY
00:17:22CANADA'S NEWLY IMPOSED
00:17:23COUNTER-TARIFFS OF UP TO 50%. >> WE TRY TO ABSORB SOME, BUT AS
00:17:27A SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING FOR US TO ABSORB THOSE KIND OF COSTS IN THE LONG TERM.
00:17:30>> Reporter: CHALLENGING FOR CONSUMERS TOO.
00:17:33THE IMPORT TAX DOES APPLY TO SOME BIG TICKET PURCHASES LIKE
00:17:36APPLIANCES AND FURNITURE. MEANING THAT PRICES COULD GO UP
00:17:39FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS. BUT MOST EVERYDAY GOODS AREN'T
00:17:42AFFECTED. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A HUGE IMPACT ON
00:17:46PRICES. THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT TRIED TO
00:17:48DESIGN THEM IN A WAY SO THAT THE CONSUMER WOULD BE SHIELDED FROM
00:17:52THE FULL BRUNT OF THE TARIFFS. >> Reporter: EXPERTS SAY THAT SHOPPERS CAN TAKE CONTROL,
00:17:55LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES THAT AREN'T MADE IN THE U.S.
00:17:59>> LOOK AHEAD, A MONTH, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS FROM NOW. WHAT DO YOU SEE COMING YOUR WAY
00:18:03IN TERMS OF BIG BILLS OR BIG EXPENSES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
00:18:05FACING. AND HOW MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE
00:18:09AMERICAN PRODUCTS THAT ARE ON THAT TARIFF LIST?
00:18:12>> Reporter: MANY CANADIANS SEEM TO BE ONBOARD WITH THE FEDERAL
00:18:15GOVERNMENT'S STRATEGY TO GET
00:18:16AHEAD IN THE TRADE WAR.
00:18:2060% OF THOSE SURVEYED SAID THEY WOULD STAY THE COURSE, EVEN IF
00:18:24HOUSEHOLD COSTS RISE BY 20%. OTHERS THOUGH WORRY ABOUT THE
00:18:27HIGH COST OF LIVING.
00:18:30>> ESCALATING TALKS BETWEEN CANADA AND THE U.S. BACK AND FORTH, UM, ARE PUNITIVE TO ITS
00:18:33CITIZENS.
00:18:38>> IT'S POINTLESS. AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S GOING
00:18:40TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. >> THIS ONE HERE IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR ONES --
00:18:44>> Reporter: FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NEGATIVE
00:18:46SENTIMENT IS MOST CONCERNING. LOSING CUSTOMERS WILL HURT MORE
00:18:49THAN THE BOTTOM LINE.
00:18:51>> I LOSE A LOT OF SLEEP.
00:18:54YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT IS NOT ONLY
00:18:58WORRYING ABOUT MY OWN FAMILY, IT'S WORRYING ABOUT ALL OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE EMPLOY. >> Reporter: THAT LINGERING UNCERTAINTY, A SHADOW OVER THIS BUSINESS, AND THE BROADER
00:19:02ECONOMY.
00:19:05NISHA PATEL, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: AFTER THE BREAK,
00:19:08JUST A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. MERCIFULLY, ROSIE IS HERE WITH "AT ISSUE."
00:19:12>> Rosemary: OBVIOUSLY,
00:19:16ADRIENNE, TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CANADA'S COUNTER-TARIFFS AND NOW THE LATEST U.S. ESCALATION.
00:19:20>> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO PIVOT
00:19:21AND TO PROSPER.
00:19:26THAT PIVOT WILL COME AT A COST. THERE'S ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION.
00:19:28BUT IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE
00:19:30COST OF STANDING STILL. >> Rosemary: SO WHAT IS TO BE
00:19:34MADE OF WHAT CANADA DID AND HOW IS CANADA POSITIONED TO RESPOND TO THIS LATEST MOVE FROM THE
00:19:37U.S.? CHANTAL, ALTHIA AND ANDREW JOIN ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND MORE. (♪)
00:21:47>> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE" TONIGHT, TRADE WAR ESCALATION.
00:21:50CANADA'S COUNTER TARIFF RESPONSE WENT INTO EFFECT OVERNIGHT.
00:21:52A MOVE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS THAT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT CANADA.
00:21:56>> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: I DON'T BELIEVE IN ESCALATING THE CONFLICT.
00:21:58THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTIVE.
00:22:00BUT OUR TARIFFS ARE NECESSARY TO
00:22:03PROTECT OUR WORKERS, PROTECT OUR
00:22:06COMPANIES, AND OUR COMMUNITIES. >> Rosemary: THE U.S. THOUGH IS
00:22:09NOW HITTING BACK ON CERTAIN CANADIAN PRODUCTS WITH TARIFFS
00:22:12AND IMPORT BANS ON OTHER PRODUCTS.
00:22:16>> IF I WERE CANADIANS, I WOULD BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE BENEFITS OF BEING A STATE,
00:22:19WITHOUT BEING A STATE.
00:22:21AND NOW THE -- NOW THAT THE
00:22:29ARRANGEMENTS MAY BE SPLINTERING, EVERYONE IS GOING TO COME TO OUR SIDE.
00:22:32>> Rosemary: SO WHAT DOES CANADA'S DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR TARIFF RESPONSE MEAN FOR THE
00:22:35TRADE WAR? AND HOW PREPARED IS CANADA NOW
00:22:39TO RESPOND TO THIS FURTHER RETALIATION FROM THE UNITED STATES? I'M ROSEMARY BARTON AND HERE TO
00:22:43BREAK IT ALL DOWN TONIGHT. GLAD TO HAVE THEM, CHANTAL HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE AND ALTHIA
00:22:46RAJ. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL BACK FOR THE OFFICIAL BEGINNING OF THE
00:22:49SEASON.
00:22:53AN ESCALATION IN EVENTS AND A
00:22:55SPIRALING OF THIS, UM, CHANTAL, LET ME START WITH YOU.
00:22:58I MEAN, CANADA -- THE PRIME MINISTER MADE THE CASE AS TO WHY HE FELT THAT HE HAD TO PUT THESE
00:23:02COUNTER-TARIFFS IN PLACE AND NOW WE SEE THE RESPONSE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
00:23:05HOW SURPRISED ARE YOU?
00:23:08>> NOT AT ALL.
00:23:12I MEAN, THIS IS BASICALLY, UM,
00:23:15BEING INVITED TO A BALLET WHERE
00:23:17YOU WERE GIVEN AN INSIGHT INTO
00:23:22EVERY STEP THAT YOU WOULD BE SHOWN. THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE
00:23:25CANADIAN GOVERNMENT WAS GOING TO BACK OFF ITS PLAN TO HAVE
00:23:27COUNTER-TARIFFS.
00:23:30IT CERTAINLY WAS PROVIDED NO REASON FOR THAT OVER A BARRAGE
00:23:34OF INSULTS OF ALL KINDS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING FROM THE
00:23:37ADMINISTRATION. AND THERE WAS ALSO VERY LITTLE
00:23:40INDICATION THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE FOLLOWED BY RETALIATION.
00:23:43SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
00:23:47BUT THERE'S -- BUT -- BUT WHAT
00:23:50I'M WATCHING FOR -- BECAUSE I WATCHED THE PRIME MINISTER'S
00:23:52ADDRESS TODAY.
00:23:55AND I NOTICED THAT -- AND I COVERED THE F.D.A., NAFTA AND
00:23:59THE LAST RENEGOTIATION THAT LED TO CUSMA.
00:24:01>> Rosemary: YEP.
00:24:04>> THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA IS NO LONGER FRAMING THIS AS A
00:24:06TRADE NEGOTIATION.
00:24:09IT'S FRAMING THIS AS SOMETHING
00:24:11MUCH LARGER, PROBABLY RIGHTLY, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT -- TO
00:24:15GO BACK TO THE TABLE WILL
00:24:19INVOLVE A LOT MORE THAN SAYING LET'S TAKE THE TEXT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON WEDNESDAY AND SEE IF
00:24:22WE CAN MAKE IT WORK ON FRIDAY.
00:24:25>> Rosemary: ANDREW? >> YEAH, IT'S NOT A TRADE
00:24:29NEGOTIATION BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT A LOT MORE THAN TRADE AND BECAUSE
00:24:32IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO NEGOTIATE. THE AIMS AND THE AMBITIONS OF
00:24:36THE PRESIDENT VARY FROM WEEK TO WEEK, BUT THEY HAVE A BROAD
00:24:40OUTLINE OF ESSENTIALLY SUPPRESSING THIS COUNTRY'S NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE AND
00:24:43SOVEREIGNTY AND FORCING TO HAVE
00:24:47A WHOLE RANGE OF POLICY FRONTS WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. LEAVING ASIDE THE VARIOUS
00:24:51THREATS OF ANNEXATION, ETC. I THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT MUST
00:24:54KNOW THAT. I THINK THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT
00:24:58BEFORE, THEY CERTAINLY FOUND IT IN THE COURSE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WHICH IS WHY
00:25:01ULTIMATELY THEY WALKED AWAY. AND I THINK THAT IT'S QUITE
00:25:04CLEAR THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY A DEAL TO BE HAD WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, PARTLY BECAUSE
00:25:08THEY DON'T WANT A DEAL.
00:25:10THEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT A DEAL THAT HAMPERS THEIR FREEDOM AND
00:25:14MOVEMENT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR
00:25:14FORM.
00:25:18IT'S STRICTLY ABOUT WHAT KIND OF
00:25:21CONSTRAINTS THEY CAN IMPOSE ON CANADA, AND WHATEVER UNDERTAKINGS THEY DO TAKE -- THEY HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TO DATE,
00:25:24EXCEPT TO REDUCE PRE-EXISTING
00:25:25TARIFFS.
00:25:29YOU CAN'T COUNT ON THEM KEEPING IT. AND AS I SAY, THEIR MAIN
00:25:30OBJECTIVE IS TO KEEP HOLDING THE THREAT OF TARIFFS OVER US AND
00:25:34NOT JUST TARIFFS BUT OTHER TYPES
00:25:38OF RETALIATION, SO AS TO FORCE
00:25:40US INTO LINE. SO THIS RETALIATION FOR OUR RETALIATION IS CERTAINLY MODEST COMPARED TO SOME OF THE THINGS
00:25:44THAT WERE COMING OUT OF DONALD TRUMP'S MOUTH, BUT WE SHOULDN'T THINK THAT IT WILL END HERE BY ANY STRETCH. >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?
00:25:48>> UM, A FEW THINGS.
00:25:51I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S JUST NOW
00:25:53THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS KIND OF
00:25:57REFRAMED IT AS A WAR. I MEAN, THE PRIME MINISTER USED
00:26:00THOSE WORDS BACK ON AUGUST 21ST
00:26:01WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE HAD
00:26:06PULLED THE NEGOTIATORS THE NIGHT BEFORE.
00:26:09HE SAID THAT YOU ARE AT WAR WHEN YOU GET ATTACKED AND WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED.
00:26:12THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I DO ACTUALLY THINK THAT
00:26:16THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PRIME MINISTER OF
00:26:18CANADA DID WANT A DEAL. I THINK THAT THE AMERICANS
00:26:22WANTED DOMINANCE OVER CANADA AND WE STILL SEE THAT.
00:26:24BUT I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE
00:26:26THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM DONALD
00:26:29TRUMP SHOWS TO US THAT HE DID ACTUALLY WANT A DEAL WITH CANADA.
00:26:32WHATEVER THAT MEANT.
00:26:34AND THAT CANADA WAS READY TO ACCEPT -- OR THE GOVERNMENT OF
00:26:37CANADA -- WAS READY TO ACCEPT
00:26:40MANY CONCESSIONS THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF LIBERAL VOTERS OR PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THE LIBERAL PARTY
00:26:44IN THE LAST ELECTION, WOULD HAVE
00:26:45BEEN UNCOMFORTABLE WITH.
00:26:48AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT
00:26:49ALREADY, UM, IN AUGUST.
00:26:53I THINK THAT WHAT I FIND SURPRISING BY THE LATEST WHITE HOUSE ACTION IS HOW KIND OF
00:26:56RUSHED IT FEELS.
00:27:01LIKE, YOU READ THE LIST OF BANNED PRODUCTS AND SOME YOU CAN
00:27:05UNDERSTAND -- LIKE BANNING BEER, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE ALCOHOL HAS BEEN SUCH A BIG THING ON THE
00:27:09U.S. FRONT.
00:27:13BUT, LIKE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY MAKE ANYTHING THAT'S BRANDED AS TEQUILA AND THEY COULD HAVE
00:27:16CALLED IT AGAVE, BUT THEY DIDN'T.
00:27:20SO IT KIND OF FEELS THAT THEY
00:27:23DIDN'T DO MUCH OF THEIR HOMEWORK.
00:27:25IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT RUSHED. AND, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE
00:27:29PRIME MINISTER WILL COME OUT AND TELL US THAT WE ALL NEED TO GET
00:27:30DRUNK FOR OUR COUNTRY TOMORROW. >> Rosemary:CHANTAL, HOW BAD
00:27:34COULD THIS GET? I MEAN, IF IT'S TIT-FOR-TAT --
00:27:37AND I FEEL THAT IS DOWNPLAYING
00:27:41WHERE WE'RE AT. HOW BAD COULD THIS GET? >> IT COULD GET A LOT WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
00:27:43A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR AND
00:27:47SAYING, WELL, WE NEED TO HOLD
00:27:48FAST UNTIL THE MIDTERMS.
00:27:52IN THE NORMAL SETTING, A
00:27:56PRESIDENT THAT IS NOT WINNING THE P.R. WAR AT HOME, THAT HAS PEOPLE FROM HIS OWN SIDE SAYING
00:28:00THIS IS WRONG AND IT'S GOING TO HURT US.
00:28:02AND THAT IS LOOKING AT THE VOTE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CLIMB
00:28:06DOWN OR AT LEAST TO FIND SOME
00:28:13WAY TO FIX MATTERS. IN THE REVERSE, A PRIME MINISTER WHO HAS PUBLIC OPINION BEHIND
00:28:15HIM, WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE AN
00:28:17ELECTION ANYTIME SOON, AND WHO
00:28:21HAS MORE ALLIES IN THE U.S. BY THE DAY, SHOULD BE IN NO RUSH TO
00:28:23DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT WE'RE NOT IN NORMAL TIMES.
00:28:27WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A
00:28:28NORMAL ADMINISTRATION.
00:28:31AND THE THINGS ABOUT AMERICAN
00:28:35INTEREST -- VERSUS CANADIAN INTEREST, IN A WAY THAT IS
00:28:37BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH.
00:28:41SO IT COULD GET A LOT WORSE.
00:28:44I'M NOT SURE THAT THE MIDTERMS WILL RESOLVE ANYTHING. I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW THE
00:28:47MIDTERMS HAPPEN IN THE U.S. SO THERE'S ONE PREMIER -- I
00:28:50THINK THE PREMIER OF NOVA
00:28:52SCOTIA -- WHO IS SAYING THAT THE FEAR THAT THIS MIGHT GO ON UNTIL
00:28:56DONALD TRUMP IS GONE FROM THE
00:28:56WHITE HOUSE.
00:29:01THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.
00:29:05>> Rosemary: OKAY, I'VE GOT ABOUT MAYBE 30 SECONDS FOR YOU, ANDREW AND ALTHIA.
00:29:06ANDREW?
00:29:09>> IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE TO GO
00:29:11ON BEYOND THE MIDTERMS, BUT NOW
00:29:13IS A GOOD TIME. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONFRONTATION WITH HIM AT
00:29:17SOME POINT, WHICH IS MY VIEW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE IT NOW. IN THE RUNUP TO THE ELECTION YOU
00:29:21WILL DIVIDE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS.
00:29:23AS CHANTAL SAID, THERE ARE A LOT
00:29:25OF REPUBLICANS WHO
00:29:28ARE AGHAST AT WHAT IS GOING ON
00:29:30THERE, AND THIS IS MAYBE THE OPTIMAL TIME TO HAVE IT OUT. >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?
00:29:33>> I AGREE WITH CHANTAL, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH MOVEMENT. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE OFF-RAMP IS. IT FEELS THAT THE JUNIOR PLAYERS
00:29:37IN THIS BATTLE, LIKE AMBASSADOR
00:29:38GREER AND MINISTER LeBLANC
00:29:41HAVE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND THAT IS, LIKE, A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP.
00:29:45BUT AT THE TOP OF THE WHITE
00:29:47HOUSE, IT FEELS LIKE THE PRESIDENT DOES
00:29:50NOT WANT TO GIVE AN INCH. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE OFF-RAMPS ARE.
00:29:53AND I DO THINK THAT, UM -- IN
00:29:56THE VERY SHORT TERM THIS IS LIKE A POLITICAL WIN FOR MARK CARNEY,
00:29:59BUT IN THE SHORT-LONG TERM, LIKE WHEN WE GET INTO JANUARY 2027,
00:30:02AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF
00:30:05PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BECOME A REAL
00:30:07PROBLEM.
00:30:10I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETHINK IF THIS WAS REALLY
00:30:13THE WISEST OF STRATEGIES. AND, UM -- I DON'T MEAN THAT IN
00:30:17TERMS OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING, BUT IN TERMS OF JUST -- I
00:30:20THINK THAT THE PRICE TO PAY WILL
00:30:23BE MORE REAL FOR PEOPLE.
00:30:27AND I THINK THAT IS IN A WAY WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER WAS TRYING TO CONDITION TODAY IN HIS VIDEO.
00:30:31>> Rosemary: OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE
00:30:34THIS PART 24R. AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL
00:30:36TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE FARING IN
00:30:40THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS. >> Pierre Poilievre: ALL CANADIANS STAND UNITED IN DENOUNCING THE PRESIDENT'S
00:30:43UNACCEPTABLE TWEETS AND TROLLING
00:30:44AND TARIFFS.
00:30:48AND WE HAVE TO STAND UNITED FOR
00:30:48OUR COUNTRY.
00:30:52>> Rosemary: SO HOW ARE THEY BALANCING THAT SUPPORT OF TEAM CANADA? AND THEN HOLDING THE GOVERNMENT TO ACCOUNT.
00:30:56THAT'S NEXT. (♪) ♪ [upbe
00:33:34>> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE," THE RESPONSE, WITH TARIFFS NOW IN EFFECT, OPPOSITION LEADERS ARE
00:33:37STANDING BY CANADA'S RESPONSE.
00:33:42>> CANADIANS ARE IN A SPIRIT OF COMING TOGETHER TO UNITE IN HARD TIMES. TODAY'S COUNTER-TARIFFS ARE A
00:33:46MEASURE THAT WE SUPPORT. >> Rosemary: WHILE OTHERS STILL CALLING FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY ON
00:33:50NEGOTIATIONS. >> Pierre Poilievre: WHAT WE'RE
00:33:54SAYING IS THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER THE PRIME MINISTER NEEDS TO
00:33:55REVEAL THE DEAL THAT HE HAD
00:33:58ACCEPTED BUT THEN CLOSED. TELL US THE COST OF THE COUNTER TARIFFS AND COME UP WITH A REAL
00:34:02PLAN TO SAVE CANADIANS MONEY AND JOBS. >> Rosemary: HERE TO BREAK DOWN
00:34:05HOW THE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE
00:34:09FARING IN THE MIDST OF THIS
00:34:10TRADE WAR -- CHANTAL, ALTHIA
00:34:14AND ANDREW ARE ALL BACK. IT'S DIFFICULT IF YOU'RE IN THE OPPOSITION TO GET ATTENTION ON THIS ISSUE AND TO NOT LOOK LIKE
00:34:17YOU'RE CRITICISING THE COUNTRY.
00:34:21BUT PIERRE POILIEVRE, ANDREW, I WILL START WITH YOU -- HAS TRIED
00:34:24TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE BY SAYING WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS ON THE TABLE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS
00:34:27AROUND THAT. AND I WANT PARLIAMENT TO BE
00:34:30RECALLED. I CAN IMAGINE WHERE YOU LAND ON
00:34:33THE SECOND, MAYBE NOT THE FIRST. >> I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOUR OF
00:34:37RECALLING PARLIAMENT.
00:34:39IT'S A SAFE HARBOUR FOR HIM. HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE JUST A
00:34:42CHEERLEADER FOR THE GOVERNMENT.
00:34:45HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SEEN TO
00:34:48BEING A DOG IN THE MANGER AND NOT SUPPORTING THE CANADIAN SIDE. HE'S GOT PEOPLE IN HIS CAUCUS
00:34:51AND CERTAINLY IN HIS BASE WHO
00:34:55ARE NOT TREADING THAT LINE QUITE AS CAREFULLY AND COME OUT QUITE
00:34:58OFTEN SOUNDING LIKE THEY'RE
00:35:02BLAMING CANADA FOR THE MESS. WITH THE DEMANDS TO GO BACK TO
00:35:05THE NEGOTIATING TABLE AND TO
00:35:06QUOTE/UNQUOTE, TO FIX THE
00:35:09RELATIONSHIP, SUCH AS IT WERE
00:35:12JUST A MARITAL SPAT.
00:35:15SO HE'S GOT A TOUGH ROAD TO GO.
00:35:18HE'S GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING THIS. AND SO A SAFE THING TO SAY IS TO
00:35:22RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU ARE QUITE ASSURED THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS.
00:35:25[LAUGHTER] >> Rosemary: ALTHIA, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE, UM, LEGITIMATE THINGS THAT THE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE PUTTING
00:35:29FORWARD IN RELATION TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ASKING THE
00:35:33GOVERNMENT AT THIS MOMENT? >> I DO. I ALSO THINK THAT THEY ARE IN A
00:35:37REALLY HARD POSITION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN PIERRE POILIEVRE,
00:35:40FOR EXAMPLE, WAS ASKED ON MONDAY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU SUPPORT
00:35:44FURTHER ESCALATION IF THE AMERICANS AS THEY DID TODAY RETALIATE.
00:35:48AND THEN WHAT?
00:35:52AND HE REFUSED TO ANSWER THAT
00:35:57QUESTION, BOTH IN FRENCH AND ENGLISH WHEN IT WAS POSED
00:35:59SEPARATELY TO HIM.
00:36:02I THINK THAT, UM -- TO ANDREW'S POINT, IT'S MOSTLY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES WHO DON'T
00:36:06ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS IN THE DEAL THAT WAS FLOATED ORIGINALLY.
00:36:09AND SO I DO THINK THAT HE'S TRYING TO GET AT THAT ARGUMENT
00:36:13WHILE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT
00:36:16HE KNOWS THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
00:36:21IN THE SAME WAY THAT HE HAS ASKED FOR A FULL ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF EVERYONE WHO WILL BE AFFECTED IN EVERY SECTOR. HE MUST KNOW THAT IS AN
00:36:25IMPOSSIBLE ASK AT THE MOMENT. SO THE CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO BE
00:36:28TRYING TO ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T DELIVER ON, PERHAPS TO
00:36:32BUILD ON THAT ARGUMENT. >> Rosemary: SURE.
00:36:34>> THE N.D.P., ON THE OTHER
00:36:36HAND, I THINK HAS DONE A SMART
00:36:40PIVOT FOR THEM ON THE ECONOMIC
00:36:45INVESTMENT CONFERENCE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER WANTS TO HAVE NEXT WEEK. MARK CARNEY SEEMS TO BE MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT
00:36:49BUSINESSES SURVIVE AND NOT THAT INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES
00:36:50SURVIVE THE CRISIS.
00:36:56I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS GOING
00:36:59TO HAVE HUGE LEGS, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
00:37:01MINDFUL OF THAT, UM, BUT THAT'S
00:37:06PROBABLY HIS BEST LANE AT THE MOMENT, FRANKLY. >> Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU MAKE, CHANTAL, OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE FOR THE
00:37:09OPPOSITION PARTIES?
00:37:13>> WELL, TO THE N.D.P.'S POINT, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SECURE
00:37:17CANADIAN JOBS IF BUSINESSES ARE
00:37:21GOING UNDER.
00:37:24SO THERE'S A SQUARING OF CIRCLE THAT IS NOT OBVIOUS HERE.
00:37:27AS FOR THE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION,
00:37:31MR. POILIEVRE, I DON'T THINK THAT ON A MAJOR ISSUE SUCH AS THIS ONE THAT HAS CAPTIVATED THE
00:37:35COUNTRY THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER AS
00:37:39ISOLATED.
00:37:42AND WHY DO I SAY THAT?
00:37:47BECAUSE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO PREMIERS -- ESPECIALLY THE MOST INFLUENTIAL ONES -- HAPPEN TO BE
00:37:51CONSERVATIVES.
00:37:54AND AT THIS POINT THEY ARE STILL WALKING IN STEP.
00:37:56WE'RE A LONG WAY, REMEMBER THAT
00:38:00PICTURE ON MacLEAN, WHEN YOU SAW ANDREW SCHEER AND THE CONSERVATIVE PREMIERS?
00:38:03NO PICTURE LIKE THAT WILL APPEAR ANYTIME SOON.
00:38:05AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME YOU
00:38:10HAVE VOICES ON THAT SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM -- JEAN CHAREST AND
00:38:13JAMES MOORE, JASON KENNEY AND
00:38:15ERIN O'TOOLE, I AM JUST NAMING A FEW HERE -- WHO ARE MOSTLY CONSTRUCTIVELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
00:38:19GOVERNMENT.
00:38:22SO THAT KIND OF LEAVES
00:38:29MR. POILIEVRE AS NOT REALLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE SO
00:38:32MANY PEOPLE IDENTIFIED TO THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT THAN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY ARE ACTUALLY
00:38:36ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE PRIME MINISTER WHO CAN SAY, WELL, I'M NOT MAKING THIS A PARTISAN
00:38:40ISSUE.
00:38:44LOOK AT HOW I HAVE OPENED MY
00:38:47DOOR TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE. AND LOOK HOW THEY'RE BEING CONSTRUCTIVE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. SO IT'S KIND OF A MOOT DEBATE.
00:38:51I DON'T THINK THAT FOR MOST CANADIANS, EITHER PIERRE
00:38:53POILIEVRE OR AVI LEWIS OR
00:38:59YVES FRANÇOIS SHAPIRO BLANCHET
00:39:01FOR THAT, TO BE PART OF THIS
00:39:05MOVEMENT. >> IF YOU'RE AN OPPOSITION LEADER, IT'S JUST TO SURVIVE. THE POLLING NUMBERS ARE OFF OF THE CHARTS FOR PUBLIC SUPPORT
00:39:09FOR WALKING AWAY FROM THE TABLE AND EVEN FOR THE COUNTER-TARIFFS.
00:39:12I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS OF 75%, OR 80% -- YOU CAN'T GET 80% OF
00:39:16CANADIANS TO AGREE ON THE TIME OF THE DAY.
00:39:19SO THIS -- YOU KNOW, A PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A
00:39:23LOT OF YARDS AGAINST THE
00:39:26GOVERNMENT. YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO HOLD ON AND WAIT UNTIL THE CLIMATE IS A BIT MORE FAVOURABLE FOR YOU AND
00:39:30IT'S WANT RIGHT NOW. >> Rosemary: BUT THAT IS PRETTY BLEAK FOR SOMEONE LIKE PIERRE
00:39:32POILIEVRE, ALTHIA, WHO IS TRYING
00:39:35TO STAY IN HIS JOB AND TRYING TO ADVANCE HIS CAUSE.
00:39:39THAT'S PRETTY BLEAK? >> PIERRE POILIEVRE HAS WAY
00:39:41BIGGER PROBLEMS, FRANKLY, THAN
00:39:45MOUNTING A RESPONSE TO THE
00:39:49CURRENT CRISIS.
00:39:54YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HE IS TAKING THE LANE THAT HE IS
00:39:58TAKING IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT CHANTAL MENTIONED -- MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR PIERRE POILIEVRE IN THAT LEADERSHIP RACE AND WHO SUPPORT
00:40:00HIM DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THOSE
00:40:06ARE TRUE CONSERVATIVE VOICES. THERE IS A SCHISM THAT HAS
00:40:09OPENED -- VERY PUBLICLY THIS
00:40:13SUMMER.
00:40:16SO THERE'S VERY UNHAPPY -- UNHAPPY, UM, PEOPLE IN THAT
00:40:18CAUCUS.
00:40:21AND, UM, VERY CONFLICTED VOICES
00:40:26ONLINE WHO ARE TALKING TO US THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRADE WAR, FRANKLY. BUT THAT HAS EXPOSED THOSE DEEP
00:40:29CLEAVAGES.
00:40:36>> Rosemary: OKAY, LET'S LEAVE IT THERE FOR "AT ISSUE" ON "THE NATIONAL" TONIGHT. WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. DO GO AROUND ON QUÉBEC'S
00:40:39PROVINCIAL ELECTION AND HOW THE TRADE WAR IS AFFECTING THAT RACE
00:40:41AND HOW IT'S SHAPING UP. YOU CAN CATCH THAT ON YouTube OR THE PODCAST.
00:40:45NOW BACK TO ADRIENNE IN TORONTO.
00:40:49>> Adrienne: THANK YOU, ROSIE.
00:40:51SO WE HAVE MUCH MORE AHEAD, MORE
00:40:53OF THE DAY'S TOP STORIES, INCLUDING ANOTHER BRAZEN ART
00:40:56HEIST IN A MUSEUM IN EUROPE. >> WE ARE SEEING THE RISE OF THE
00:41:00THREE TO FOUR-MINUTE HEIST. BREAKING IN AND GETTING AWAY
00:41:04WITH CULTURAL HERITAGE BEFORE THE POLICE COULD ARRIVE.
00:41:07>> Adrienne: HOW THIEVES MADE OFF WITH FAMOUS FRENCH PAINTINGS
00:41:11WORTH MILLIONS.
00:41:14>>> AND HOCKEY PARENTS TONIGHT SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT
00:41:17POSSIBLE HIDDEN DANGERS AT THE RINK.
00:41:20>> KID WERE STARTING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HEADACHES AND NAUSEA.
00:41:23SOME WERE THROWING UP. >> IT WOULD HAVE NEVER CROSSED
00:41:26MY MIND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
00:41:28>> Adrienne: THE CALLS FOR MA ATORY >> Does th
00:44:37>> Adrienne: OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT -- THE UNITED STATES IS
00:44:41BANNING CANADIAN DAIRY PRODUCTS. MOST ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, AMONG
00:44:43OTHER PRODUCTS.
00:44:46THIS MOVE COMES AFTER CANADA IMPOSED RETALIATORY TARIFFS AS THE TRADE WAR RAMPS
00:44:50UP EVEN FURTHER.
00:44:52THE NEW U.S. MEASURES ARE SET TO TAKE IN EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER
00:44:5429TH.
00:44:59>>> NOW JUST DAYS BEFORE THE 25TH
00:45:03ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, IT SUGGESTS
00:45:06IN DOCUMENTS THAT NEW YORKERS WERE MISLED ABOUT THE AIR QUALITY AROUND GROUND ZERO.
00:45:10>> MORE PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM 9/11 RELATED ILLNESS, THAN KILLED ON THE DAY ITSELF.
00:45:13>> Adrienne:NEW YORK'S MAYOR SAYS THAT HE IS PROVIDING
00:45:17ACCESS TO 170,000 PAGES OF CITY RECORDS, SOME WHICH SHOW ASBESTOS WAS NEARLY EVERYWHERE
00:45:21IN THE CITY AFTER THE ATTACKS. THAT DESPITE THE CITY OFFICIALS CLAIMING AT THE TIME THAT THE
00:45:25AIR WAS SAFE.
00:45:28>> President Trump: WE GATHER ON
00:45:30ANOTHER TUESDAY MORNING IN
00:45:33SEPTEMBER TO REAFFIRM THE SACRED VOW THAT WE MADE A QUARTER OF A
00:45:37CENTURY AGO. WE WILL NEVER FORGET. >> Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP
00:45:41ADDRESSING FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE FAMILIES OF VICTIMS AT A
00:45:449/11 COMMEMORATION IN WASHINGTON.
00:45:48THE EVENT SHOWCASED A MASSIVE 6.5 METRE STEEL BEAM RECOVERED FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
00:45:52SOUTH TOWER. IT HAS TRAVELED THE U.S. FOR
00:45:54MONTHS AND IT WILL BE RETURNED
00:46:00TO GROUND ZERO DURING FRIDAY'S 25TH ANNIVERSARY CEREMONY. >>> AND AS THE U.S. PREPARES TO MARK THAT ANNIVERSARY, WE HAVE
00:46:04SPECIAL COVERAGE PLANNED FOR YOU. I WILL BE HOSTING "THE NATIONAL"
00:46:07FROM MANHATTAN STARTING ON THURSDAY AND ON FRIDAY MORNING,
00:46:10THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS WILL GATHER FOR A CEREMONY AT GROUND ZERO.
00:46:14WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU LIVE STARTING AT 8:00 A.M. EASTERN AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL BRING YOU
00:46:18CEREMONIES FROM GANDER,
00:46:18NEWFOUNDLAND.
00:46:22>>> WELL, FRENCH POLICE ARE HUNTING FOR TWO ART THIEVES TONIGHT AFTER ANOTHER
00:46:26MULTIMILLION DOLLAR MUSEUM HEIST. THE STOLEN ART IS THE WORK OF A
00:46:30RENOWNED FRENCH PAINTER.
00:46:33THOMAS DAIGLEEL TAKES US THROUGH THE DARING ROBBERY AND WHAT WE
00:46:37KNOW SO FAR. >> Reporter: IT DIDN'T TAKE MUCH
00:46:39FOR THIEVES TO CUT A HOLE IN THE FENCE AND BUST THROUGH A WINDOW.
00:46:43SNATCHING WORKS OF THE LEGENDARY
00:46:44IMPRESSIONIST PAINTER RENOIR
00:46:49WORTH MILLIONS. WITHIN JUST THREE MINUTES. A BRAZEN THEFT AT THE MUSEUM
00:46:52NAMED AFTER THE FRENCH ARTIST IN THE HOME THAT HE ONCE LIVED.
00:46:55>> [Speaking French]
00:46:57>> Reporter: THE LOCAL POLICE
00:47:00UNION SAYS THAT SUSPECTS CANVASSED THE SITE WELL AHEAD OF TIME.
00:47:04FRENCH TV SHOWED A COMPUTER-GENERATED RE-ENACTMENT OF THE BREAK-IN WITH THE SUSPECTS WEARING HOODS AND
00:47:07MASKS.
00:47:11AS AN ALARM WENT OFF, THEY RUSHED OUT. OFFICERS ARRIVING JUST SECONDS
00:47:14TOO LATE.
00:47:16>> ALL OF THESE THIEVES WILL
00:47:20QUICKLY LEARN THAT YOU CAN'T SELL THESE ITEMS. >> Reporter: IN A PANIC, THIEVES
00:47:23DROPPED TWO PAINTINGS IN THE
00:47:26BACK GARDENS BUT STILL MADE OFF
00:47:30WITH TWO OTHERS, INCLUDING "YOUNG WOMAN AT THE WELL" FROM 1886.
00:47:32>> EVERYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN ART WILL KNOW THAT THEY ARE STOLEN AND CAN ONLY GET THEM
00:47:36ARRESTED AND ARE NOT WORTH THE BIG PRICE TAG THAT THIEVES ARE LOOKING FOR.
00:47:38>> Reporter: EVEN SO, EUROPEAN
00:47:41AUTHORITIES ARE WARNING ABOUT A SURGE OF ART HEISTS CARRIED OUT IN A FLASH.
00:47:45MONTHS AFTER THIS ROBBERY IN ITALY, POLICE RECOVERED ALL
00:47:47THREE PAINTINGS -- INCLUDING
00:47:49THIS ONE BY RENOIR.
00:47:53AND CONSIDER THAT BIG-TIME THEFT FROM THE LOUVRE IN PARIS LAST YEAR.
00:47:56CASTING A GLOBAL SPOTLIGHT ON
00:47:59EUROPE'S ART HEIST EPIDEMIC.
00:48:03THOSE STOLEN CROWN JEWELLS STILL HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND.
00:48:05>> WE'RE SEEING THE RISE OF THE
00:48:10THREE TO FOUR-MINUTE HEIST. BREAKING IN AND GETTING AWAY WITH CULTURAL HERITAGE BEFORE
00:48:12POLICE CAN ARRIVE. >> Reporter: AS FOR THE RENOIR
00:48:16MUSEUM IN THE SOUTH OF FRANCE, IT IS CLOSED AS POLICE HUNT FOR
00:48:19SUSPECTS.
00:48:22ALL OF IT LEADING TO CALLS FOR PRECIOUS PIECES OF ART HISTORY
00:48:24TO BE BETTER PROTECTED.
00:48:27THOMAS DAIGLEEL, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: AUTHORITIES IN B.C.
00:48:31SAY THAT AN 85-YEAR-OLD MAN SHOT
00:48:34AND KILLED IN HIS HOME LAST
00:48:37MONTH WAS HIT BY A STRAY BULLET. >> SOMEONE BEING STRUCK IN THEIR
00:48:39HOME ONE BLOCK AWAY IS SHOCKING.
00:48:43AND WE HAD TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO ASCERTAIN THAT THIS
00:48:45IS, IN FACT, WHAT HAPPENED.
00:48:48>> Adrienne: CHANG YOUNG CHOE WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS BURNABY
00:48:51APARTMENT ON AUGUST 30TH.
00:48:53POLICE WERE SENT TO HIS HOME 15
00:48:56HOURS AFTER A NEARBY SHOOTING TO DO A WELLNESS CHECK.
00:48:59IT'S BELIEVED THAT A GROUP OF
00:49:01YOUNG PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED OR HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT SHOOTING.
00:49:05>>> WELL, PARENTS IN CALGARY ARE DEMANDING CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS IN HOCKEY RINKS TO BE
00:49:08MANDATORY.
00:49:11THIS CALL COMES AFTER A RECENT
00:49:13DANGEROUS INCIDENT SENT MORE THAN 20 KIDS TO HOSPITAL.
00:49:16MEAGAN FITZPATRICK BRINGS US THEIR STORIES AND THE CALL FOR ACTION.
00:49:19>> I WENT BACK AND LOOKED. >> Reporter:THESE PARENTS HAVE
00:49:23SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS IN HOCKEY ARENAS CHEERING ON THEIR KIDS.
00:49:27IN 2024, ONE TOURNAMENT LED TO A
00:49:29SERIOUS HEALTH SCARE. >> KIDS WERE COMPLAINING OF HEADACHES AND NAUSEA AND SOME
00:49:33WERE THROWING UP AND PARENTS WERE WORRIED WHETHER THERE WAS A
00:49:34VIRUS GOING AROUND. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT DAN
00:49:38MOYER FIRST SUSPECTED BUT AS A FIREFIGHTER HE ALSO KNEW THE SIGNS OF CARBON MONOXIDE
00:49:42POISONING AND HE CALLED A NEARBY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
00:49:45>> AS SOON AS THEY WALKED IN THE FRONT DOOR OF THE ARENA THEY GOT
00:49:48HIGH ALARMS INTO THEIR
00:49:50MONITORING EQUIPMENT. >> Reporter: MORE THAN 20 WERE
00:49:54TREATED AND SOME HOOKED UP TO
00:49:55OXYGEN AND ALL RECOVERED.
00:49:58NOW THESE PARENTS ARE SHARING
00:50:00THEIR STORIES IN THE "CANADIAN MEDICAL
00:50:04ASSOCIATION JOURNAL." >> IT WOULD HAVE NEVER CROSSED
00:50:07MY MIND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. >> Reporter: AND THEY EMIT CARBON MONOXIDE INTO THE ARENA
00:50:11AIR. IF THEY ARE USED OFTEN OR POORLY MAINTAINED AND THE VENTILATION
00:50:13IS WEAK, THE GAS CAN RISE TO DANGEROUS LEVELS, ESPECIALLY FOR
00:50:17KIDS WHO ARE EXERCISING. >> NOT ONLY ARE THEY HYPER
00:50:20METABOLIC AND THEY ARE HYPERVENTILATING AND THEIR HEART IS BEATING FASTER AND THEY'RE
00:50:24BREATHING IN MORE AIR AND MORE
00:50:27CARBON MONOXIDE. BUT THERE IS MORE CARBON MONOXIDE THERE FOR THEM
00:50:30TO BREATHE IN.
00:50:33>> Reporter:SOME ARENAS HAVE
00:50:34AIR MONITORS AND CARBON MONOXIDE
00:50:37ALARMS, BUT NOT ALL. THESE PARENTS SAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY.
00:50:41>> TO LEARN THAT THESE ARENA DOES NOT HAVE RULES THEY HAVE TO HAVE CARBON MONOXIDE MONITORS IN
00:50:43THEM IS MIND BLOWING, BECAUSE
00:50:47OOSES SUCH A SIMPLE THING THAT
00:50:50CAN BE FIXED. >> Reporter: THIS HEALTH INSPECTOR AGREES, BUT ALSO --
00:50:53>> WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO PREVENT THAT ALARM FROM GOING OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE?
00:50:56>> Reporter: HEALTH CANADA HAS
00:50:57GUIDELINES THAT INCLUDE USING
00:51:00ELECTRIC RESURFACERS AND OPENING UP THE GATES AROUND THE RINK
00:51:03DURING RESURFACINGS AND HAVING
00:51:07INSTALLED CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS.
00:51:10>> WE ARE A COUNTRY THAT LOVE ICE SPORTS.
00:51:12MY KIDS SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE ARENA AND THEY
00:51:16SHOULD BE SAFE. >> Reporter: REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ICE THIS SEASON, RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT HEALTH RISKS IN THE RINK IS A WIN FOR THESE PARENTS. MEAGAN FITZPATRICK, CBC NEWS,
00:51:20TORONTO.
00:51:24>> Adrienne: COMING UP, A CANADIAN SAILOR GETS LOST IN A
00:51:26REMOTE PART OF THE INDIAN OCEAN.
00:51:30>> THEY WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY A
00:51:31RESCUE HELICOPTER WHICH WENCHED
00:51:34THE SAILOR TO SAFETY. >> Adrienne: THE DRAMATIC RESCUE FROM AUSTRALIAN AUTHORITIES NEXT
00:51:37IN OUR "MOMENT." >> I'm I
00:54:55>> Adrienne: THIS IS A CANADIAN SAILOR RAISING HIS ARMS FOR HELP
00:54:58AS AUSTRALIAN RESCUE TEAMS
00:55:00APPROACHED HIS SINKING BOAT. HE'D BEEN LOST IN A REMOTE PART
00:55:03OF THE INDIAN OCEAN.
00:55:06SO AFTER THE SAILOR MISSED TWO SCHEDULED PHONE CALLS WITH HIS
00:55:08FAMILY BACK HOME IN CANADA, THEY GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE AUSTRALIAN
00:55:11AUTHORITIES. AND THAT DRAMATIC RESCUE MAKES OUR "MOMENT."
00:55:14(♪)
00:55:19>> AMSA WAS CONTACTED BY A
00:55:25CONCERNED PERSON IN CANADA WHO WAS RECEIVING SCHEDULED REPORTS FROM
00:55:29THE VESSEL WHEN THEY FAILED TO MAKE TWO SCHEDULED REPORTS, THEY
00:55:32WERE ON THE WAY FROM DARWIN TO CHRISTMAS ISLAND.
00:55:35THE LAST KNOWN POSITION FOR
00:55:39THE VESSEL WAS 1,000 KILOMETRES IN A REMOTE PART OF THE WORLD.
00:55:41THERE HAD BEEN FAIRLY SEVERE
00:55:44WEATHER THROUGH THAT AREA OVER THE WEEKEND.
00:55:46AND THE VESSEL WAS REPORTED AS
00:55:51BEING SEMI-EMERGED WITH THE BACK HALF OF THE YACHT IN THE WATER. AND THE SAILOR WAS TINDERRED AND
00:55:55ONCE HE RECEIVED THE DROP FROM
00:55:58THE JET, WE WERE ADVISED THAT HE CLIMBED ABOARD THE EMERGENCY
00:56:02RAFT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY A RESCUE HELICOPTER WHICH WENCHED THE SAILOR TO SAFETY. THIS SAILOR APPEARS TO HAVE DONE
00:56:05ALL OF THE RIGHT THINGS.
00:56:11WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THIS CANADIAN SAILOR WHO GOT IN TROUBLE IN A
00:56:14VERY REMOTE PART OF THE WORLD. >> Adrienne: SO, FIRSTLY, THANK
00:56:18YOU, AUSTRALIA. AND ALWAYS IMPRESSIVE WHEN
00:56:21PEOPLE SPEAK SO CALMLY ABOUT SOMETHING QUITE THAT
00:56:23COMPLICATED.
00:56:27MADE IT SEEM LIKE NO BIG DEAL. IT WAS A VERY BIG DEAL. >>> FROM ALL OF US AT "THE NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. I'M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. TAKE CARE.
00:56:30(♪)
00:56:33(♪)
01:00:27(♪) >> Adrienne: BREAKING TONIGHT, DONALD TRUMP FIRES BACK WITH THE
01:00:31DRAMATIC ESCALATION OF HIS TRADE
01:00:31WAR AGAINST CANADA.
01:00:36THE SWEEPING SERIES OF NEW TRADE MEASURES TARGETING CANADIAN
01:00:39PRODUCTS AFTER MARK CARNEY WARNS THE COUNTRY OF A DIFFICULT ROAD AHEAD.
01:00:43>> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE'S
01:00:44ALWAYS A COST TO ACTION, BUT IT
01:00:50DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THE COST OF STANDING STILL. >> Adrienne: WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE COVERAGE WITH
01:00:53ANALYSIS FROM WASHINGTON AND OTTAWA, AND A SPECIAL EDITION OF "AT ISSUE" WITH THE POLITICS
01:00:56BEHIND THE ESCALATING TRADE WAR. PLUS THE IMPACT ON CONSUMERS
01:01:00ALREADY BEING FELT. >> THIS ONE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WENT UP FROM JUST OVER $9 TO