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00:00:30>> Interviewer: DO YOU RECALL
00:00:38>> Adrienne: TONIGHT, DESPITE
00:00:42THE FUTURE MARK CARNEY SAYS
00:00:45HE'S STILL SPEAKING WITH DONALD TRUMP.
00:00:49WHAT HE REVEALED ABOUT THE CONVERSATION AND WHY HE SAYS A DEAL IS STILL POSSIBLE.
00:00:51>>> AND WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY,
00:00:53STEPS FROM GROUND ZERO, 25
00:00:56YEARS AFTER THE TERRORIST ATTACKS THAT CHANGED THE WORLD.
00:01:00FROM MANHATTAN TO GANDER, THE
00:01:06AMERICANS AND CANADIANS STANDING SIDE BY SIDE IN REMEMBRANCE.
00:01:08>> WHY CAN'T PEOPLE IN THE
00:01:11WORLD BE LIKE PEOPLE IN NEWFOUNDLAND?
00:01:14>> Adrienne: AND THE REMAINS OF MORE THAN 1,000 VICTIMS FROM
00:01:18THAT HORRIFIC DAY ARE STILL IDENTIFIED.
00:01:22THE SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGH HOPING TO CHANGE THAT. >> WE MADE A PROMISE 25 YEARS
00:01:26AGO AND I WILL NEVER TURN MY
00:01:28BACK ON THAT, THIS AGENCY WILL
00:01:31NEVER TURN ITS BACK ON THAT PROMISE.
00:01:34>> Adrienne: WHY SOME FAMILIES
00:01:36SAY IT WILL NEVER BRING THEM
00:02:00CLOSURE. >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT
00:02:04IN NEW YORK. >> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >>> WE ARE HERE BARELY A BLOCK
00:02:08FROM THE 9-11 MEMORIAL JUST BEHIND ME WHERE TOMORROW THOUSANDS WILL GATHER TO MARK AN
00:02:11AWFUL ANNIVERSARY, 25 YEARS SINCE THE TERRORIST ATTACKS THAT BROUGHT THE WORLD TO A
00:02:14STANDSTILL. A MOMENT WHEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES STOOD TOGETHER,
00:02:18FRIENDS, NEIGHBOURS, SUPPORTERS. THE POLITICAL RELATIONSHIP NOW THOUGH IS STRAINED.
00:02:22TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE TRADE TALKS STALLED THE PRIME MINISTER CONFIRMS HE'S SPOKEN TO
00:02:25DONALD TRUMP. MARK CARNEY AND HIS CABINET ARE MEETING IN BANFF TO STRATEGIZE
00:02:28IN THE WAKE OF THE LATEST TRADE WAR ESCALATION. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH IS THERE,
00:02:32TOO, WITH WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER IS SAYING ABOUT MORE RETALIATION AND A PROVINCE THAT
00:02:36IS ALREADY TAKING ACTION. >> Reporter: AGAINST A TRANQUIL BACKDROP CABINET MINISTERS ARE
00:02:40HUNKERING DOWN TO PLAN HOW TO WEATHER THE TURBULENT TRADE WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES.
00:02:43SHOULD CANADA FURTHER RETALIATE AGAINST THE U.S.? >> WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE
00:02:46SOME GREAT MEETINGS. >> Reporter: WHAT'S YOUR GOAL AT THIS CABINET FORUM? >> SO MAKE KHANNA -- TO MAKE
00:02:50CANADA STRONG.
00:02:50>> Prime Minister Mark Carney:
00:02:55WE THINK THERE IS A MUTUALLY
00:03:00BENEFICIAL DEAL AND WE LOOK TO HAVE A DEAL POSSIBLE THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
00:03:03OUR OWN COUNTRIES. >> Reporter: DESPITE FORMAL
00:03:06TRADE NEGOTIATIONS AT A STANDSTILL PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY SAID EARLIER IN THE DAY
00:03:10WITH UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT THAT HE RECENTLY SPOKE TO THE U.S. PRESIDENT ABOUT GLOBAL EVENTS,
00:03:13INCLUDING UKRAINE, IRAN, AND GLOBAL ENERGY MARKETS. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney: I
00:03:17SPEAK REGULARLY TO THE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP, IN RECENT DAYS.
00:03:19>> Reporter: JUST DAYS AGO THE
00:03:26THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED PLANS TO BAN CERTAIN CANADIAN IMPORTS,
00:03:29INCLUDING ALCOHOL.
00:03:32THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT HASN'T SAID WHETHER IT WILL RETALIATE
00:03:35AGAIN. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney: WE FULLY RALLS FOR INDIVIDUAL --
00:03:39REALIZE FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES AND IN INDIVIDUAL SECTORS THE COST IS SIGNIFICANT AND THERE'S
00:03:42A RESPONSE THERE. I WOULD ALSO RECOGNISE THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION
00:03:46HAS
00:03:51DONE, OTHER MEASURES THAT THIS U.S. ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE THAT THESE ARE RELATIVELY
00:03:53MODEST. >> Reporter: BUT SOME PREMIERS WANTS ACTION NOW.
00:03:57>> I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP GETS
00:03:58HIS KNICKERS IN A KNOT.
00:04:01WHEN IT COMES TO ALCOHOL EVEN THOUGH IT'S A VERY SMALL, SMALL
00:04:05PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL TARIFFS BUT WE HAVE TO FIGHT
00:04:08BACK. >> Reporter: NEW BRUNSWICK ANNOUNCING A NEW SECTOR BAN ON
00:04:12U.S. PROCUREMENT. >> WE CAN'T CONTROL THE ACTIONS OF THE PRESIDENT BUT WHAT WE CAN
00:04:15CONTROL IS THE ACTIONS HAOER IN NEW BRUNSWICK.
00:04:17>> Reporter: MEANWHILE, THE
00:04:20LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION IS MAKING THE ROUNDS ON AMERICAN TELEVISION NETWORKS
00:04:24WITH A MESSAGE FOR TRUMP.
00:04:25>> SO LET'S KNOCKDOWN THE
00:04:29TARIFFS AND FOCUS ON BUILDING A STRONGER NORTH AMERICA FOR OUR
00:04:32TWO SEPARATE COUNTRIES. >> Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER
00:04:35SAID HE'S ALWAYS WILLING TO SIT DOWN AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE IN
00:04:38A PROFESSIONAL WAY AND THE
00:04:45PROPOSED DEAL THAT WAS ON THE TABLE FROM THE U.S. WOULD HAVE COMPROMISED CANADA'S SOVEREIGNTY
00:04:49SO OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS HERE IN THE ROCKIES CARNEY SAYS THEY'LL BE FOCUSING ON
00:04:53STRENGTHENING THE ECONOMY, DIVERSIFYING ABROAD, AND DELIVERING FOR CANADIANS.
00:04:55>> Adrienne: SO OLIVIA, THOSE
00:04:58ARE THE BIG ONES. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES.
00:05:01WHAT ELSE IS THE CABINET DISCUSSING?
00:05:03>> Reporter: WELL, HOLDING THIS CABINET FORUM IN BANFF SENDS A
00:05:07MESSAGE ABOUT NATIONAL UNITY. ALBERTA IS GOING TO HOLD A REFERENDUM NEXT MONTH THAT COULD
00:05:10LEAD TO SEPARATION. CARNEY DOESN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BUT FOR NOW HE'S TAKING A
00:05:13BIT OF A HANDS OFF APPROACH ENCOURAGING ALBERTANS TO HEAD TO
00:05:15THE BALLOT BOX ON OCTOBER 18 NO
00:05:19-- 19 NO MATTER WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT. OLIVIA, THANK YOU.
00:05:22THAT IS OLIVIA STEFANOVICH IN BANFF TONIGHT. >>> SO HERE IN NEW YORK THE
00:05:26FINAL SECURITY CHECKS AND PREPARATIONS ARE UNDERWAY FOR TOMORROW'S CEREMONIES MARKING
00:05:29THE 25 ANNIVERSARY OF THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS.
00:05:32GROUND ZERO, THE MEMORIAL FOR THE TWIN TOWERS, IS WHERE THE
00:05:35OFFICIAL CEREMONY WILL HAPPEN
00:05:38AND JUST HOURS FROM NOW IT IS A PLACE FOR VICTIMS' FAMILIES AND
00:05:41THE WORLD TO REMEMBER AND GATHER. IT IS ALWAYS BUSINESS BUT
00:05:45TOMORROW -- BUSY BUT TOMORROW THAT SITE WILL BE REMARKABLE.
00:05:48PAUL HUNTER TOOK TO THE STREETS
00:05:50OF NEW YORK TO SPEAK TO
00:05:56PEOPLE WHO LOVED LOVED -- LOST LOVED ONES
00:05:59AND CANADIANS WHO MADE THE TRIP IN SOLIDARITY.
00:06:01>> Reporter: 25 YEARS LESS ONE
00:06:04DAY AND THE SITE OF THE NOW
00:06:09FORMER WORLD CENTER TOWERS IS FILLED WITH MEMORIES, SORROW, AND NEARLY 3,000 NAMES CARVED
00:06:12INTO METAL, INCLUDING THOSE OF THE 24 CANADIANS KILLED IN THE
00:06:16TERROR ATTACKS THAT DAY. REMEMBERED 25 YEARS LATER AND
00:06:19ALWAYS BY EVERYONE. >> HE'S VERY MISSED BY HIS
00:06:23FAMILY, MYSELF, HIS KIDS. >> Reporter: CONNECTICUT'S JULIE
00:06:26WONG'S HUSBAND JONATHAN WAS ON THE 105 FLOOR IN THE NORTH TOWER
00:06:30THAT MORNING. SHE COMES HERE OFTEN.
00:06:33>> I FEEL LIKE WE HONOUR HIM
00:06:37EVERY DAY BY BEING GOOD PEOPLE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE REASON
00:06:39THAT HE DIED WHICH WAS EVIL,
00:06:45THAT WE LIVE OUR LIVES WITH
00:06:46KINDNESS AND MAKE SURE WE NOT
00:06:52-- WE'RE GOOD TO OTHER PEOPLE
00:06:56AND NOT LET THESE THINGS HAPPEN AGAIN. >> Reporter: HER HUSBAND'S BOSS
00:06:59AT THE TIME, HOWARD LUTNICK, IS
00:07:06-- A KEY FIGURE IN PRESIDENT
00:07:10DONALD TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION
00:07:11AND A KEY FIGURE IN THE TRADE
00:07:15NEGOTIATIONS, IS ALSO HERE. HIS BROTHER WAS KILLED THAT DAY.
00:07:1825 YEARS LATER, THIS COUNTRY, INDEED THE WORLD, IS A MUCH
00:07:21DIFFERENT PLACE. ON 9-11-2026 ALL LIVING PRESIDENTS BUT ONE WILL BE IN
00:07:25NEW YORK TO COMMEMORATE. DONALD TRUMP WILL BE AT THE PENTAGON WHERE THE THIRD PLANE
00:07:28STRUCK. OTHER OFFICIALS WILL BE IN SHANKSVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA BUT IT
00:07:32IS IN NEW YORK THAT -- IT IS NEW YORK THAT BEARS THE DEEPEST
00:07:34SCAR.
00:07:39AND IT IS HERE WHERE MANY HAVE COME TO REMEMBER.
00:07:42AT THIS PUB, THE EDMONTON PIPE AND SERVICE
00:07:45DRUM BAND, YES, EDMONTON, IS HERE TO SUPPORT FIRST RESPONDERS
00:07:48WHO FOUGHT AND DIED THAT TERRIBLE DAY. THIS WAS A BIG HANGOUT BACK THEN
00:07:52AND NOW ESPECIALLY SO, EVEN AT A TIME OF STRAINED CANADA-U.S.
00:07:55RELATIONS. >> WE'RE STILL BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CANADA AND IN THE
00:07:59U.S. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME RIGHT
00:08:03NOW BUT I THINK WE CAN MEND ALL OUR FENCES AND BE ONE RIGHT
00:08:05NOW.
00:08:09>> THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS IS
00:08:11JUST THE UNIFIED APPROACH TO
00:08:14SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER. >> Reporter: FULL STOP? >> FULL STOP.
00:08:18>> Reporter: AS ON ALL 9-11 ANNIVERSARIES THE NAME OF ALL
00:08:22THOSE KILLED WILL BE READ ALOUD, TIME TO THINK ON THE WORLD
00:08:25THAT'S CHANGED, THE LIVES LOST, AND THE MEMORIES THAT LINGER. >>> SECURITY IS ESPECIALLY
00:08:29TIGHT FOR THIS ANNIVERSARY, ADRIENNE. IT PROMISES TO BE A SOBERING MORNING.
00:08:32>> Adrienne: IT ALWAYS IS, PAUL.
00:08:35YOU MENTIONED THAT PRESIDENT
00:08:41DONALD TRUMP, INTERESTINGLY, THE NEW YORKER, WON'T BE HERE. VICE PRESIDENT J.D. VANCE WILL
00:08:44BE STANDING IN HIS PLACE. WHAT'S STANDING OUT TO YOU, AS WELL?
00:08:47>> Reporter: WELL, BEYOND THE READING OF THE NAMES WHICH IS
00:08:51ALWAYS GUTTING, ONE, THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK, ZOHRAN MAMDANI,
00:08:54WILL BE HERE, NEW YORK'S FIRST MUSLIM MAYOR.
00:08:57A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OPPOSE HIS
00:09:00APPEARANCE AT THIS EVENT CITING
00:09:04A VARIETY OF REASONS BUT MANY PEOPLE LABELLING THOSE REASONS LITTLE MORE THAN ANTIMUSLIM
00:09:07BIGOTRY. BOTTOM LINE MAMDANI WILL BE
00:09:11HERE. SECOND THING IS A NEW MOMENT OF SILENCE, THIS ONE IN RECOGNITION
00:09:14OF THOSE WHO DIED AFTER 9-11 OF 9-11 RELATED ILLNESSES.
00:09:18THIS IS RECOGNITION MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEEKING FOR FOR SOMETIME ABSENT UNTIL NOW.
00:09:22>> Adrienne: AND WE'RE TALKING MANY, MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, PAUL.
00:09:26THANK YOU. >> Reporter: THANK YOU. >> Adrienne: WE'LL SEE PAUL
00:09:29TOMORROW HERE FOR OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE.
00:09:32>>> IN GANDER, NEWFOUNDLAND, PEOPLE ARE REMEMBERING NOT JUST
00:09:35THE LIVES LOST ON 9-11 BUT THE KINDNESS THAT CAME AFTER.
00:09:39THE COMMUNITY TOOK IN THE PASSENGERS OF 38 PLANES THAT
00:09:42WERE SUDDENLY GROUNDED. AS PETER COWAN REPORTS DESPITE
00:09:45TENSIONS CANADIANS AND AMERICANS ARE MARKING THAT ACT OF
00:09:48GENEROSITY TOGETHER.
00:09:51>> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TODAY.
00:09:53>> Reporter: A GATHERING ON THE
00:09:56EVE OF THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9-11
00:09:57IN GANDER, IS MESSAGE CHOOSE
00:10:01KINDNESS EVEN IN THE FACE OF
00:10:02STRAINED RELATIONS.
00:10:07>> MOST AMERICANS KNOW WHO THE CANADIANS ARE AND ARE
00:10:11HEARTBROKEN AT HOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS TREATING US THIS WAY.
00:10:14THIS IS A BLIP.
00:10:17WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT RELATIONSHIP BACK.
00:10:20>> Reporter: MAUREEN MARY AND
00:10:22SUE RICARDEILLI ARE AMERICAN.
00:10:27THEIR PLANE FORCED TO LAND HERE
00:10:30SEPTEMBER 11, 25 YEARS AGO. >> I WALKED IN HERE WITHOUT ANY SUITCASES AND WE ENTERED INTO
00:10:34THE CAFETERIA WHICH WAS LIKE ENTERING A PARTY FULL OF FOOD.
00:10:37>> Reporter: THIS MAN SPENT
00:10:40THREE NIGHTS SLEEPING IN THE LOCAL COLLEGE FED AND HELPED BY
00:10:43STRANGERS. HE CREATED A FOUNDATION TO
00:10:47ENCOURAGE ACTS OF KINDNESS AND SAYS IT'S A MESSAGE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT NOW.
00:10:51DESPITE THE TRADE WAR AMERICAN
00:10:54AMBASSADOR PETE HOEKSTRA WILL
00:10:55ATTEND THE FORMAL 9-11 SERVICE
00:10:59IN GANDER ON FRIDAY. HE'S BEEN A LIGHTNING ROD FOR
00:11:02ANTIAMERICAN SENTIMENT.
00:11:07HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS HAVE SIGNED A PETITION TO KICK HIM OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
00:11:10>> THERE'S BEEN SOME BACKLASH,
00:11:13THERE ARE SOME ANGRY PEOPLE, UNDERSTANDABLY.
00:11:15>> THE PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS ARE OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBOURS THAT
00:11:19WE WERE CALLED INTO ACTION TO SUPPORT AND THAT DOESN'T CHANGE,
00:11:23POLITICS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT. >> Reporter: HOEKSTRA SAYS THE
00:11:26ANNIVERSARY IS A REMINDER OF
00:11:27THAT FRIENDSHIP AND HOW
00:11:33IMPORTANT A TRADE DEAL IS. >> EACH AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY
00:11:36TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW, IS A
00:11:39TIME TO GO BACK AND REFLECT AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S GET THIS DONE.
00:11:42>> Reporter: DESPITE THE CURRENT TENSIONS PEOPLE IN GANDER TOLD
00:11:46ME IF PLANE LOADS OF AMERICANS
00:11:47LANDED NOW THEY'D GET THE SAME
00:11:58HELP, FOOD, CLOTHING, HOUSING, AND FRIENDSHIP THAT PEOPLE GAVE THEM 25 YEARS AGO.
00:12:01PETER COWAN, CBC NEWS, GANDER, NEWFOUNDLAND.
00:12:03>> Adrienne: REMARKABLE. PETER COWAN IS LIVE TO BRING YOU
00:12:07LIVE COVERAGE TOMORROW AND WE WILL ABBE LIVE FOR -- WE'LL BE LIVE FOR THE 25 ANNIVERSARY
00:12:11CEREMONIES THAT BEGINS AT 8:00 A.M. EASTERN EVERYWHERE YOU
00:12:14WATCH CBC NEWS.
00:12:16>>> WELL, THERE'S SOME NEW NEWS
00:12:22-- DETAILS TONIGHT ABOUT A STABBING LAST MONTH AT A SIKH TEMPLE.
00:12:26>> THE 26-YEAR-OLD SUSPECT
00:12:27AUSTIN SIM-PELLETIER WAS
00:12:33SUBSEQUENTLY REMANDED INTO CUSTODY AND ARRESTED FOR FAILING TO ARRIVE
00:12:36AT HIS HALFWAY HOUSE.
00:12:37>> Adrienne: POLICE SAY THE
00:12:41ACCUSED HAD BEEN RELEASED FROM FEDERAL PRISON THE DAY BEFORE
00:12:44THE ATTACK. >>> WELL, A 100-YEAR
00:12:46PARTNERSHIP HAS NOW BEEN FORGED BETWEEN
00:12:50CANADA AND UKRAINE WITH DEFENCE AT THE FOREFRONT. AS MURRAY BREWSTER SHOWS US
00:12:54MARK
00:12:55CARNEY AND VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY
00:12:58SIGNED THE DEAL IN CALGARY AS
00:12:59OTTAWA LOOKS TO DRAMATICALLY
00:13:02RAMP UP ITS DRONE PRODUCTION.
00:13:04>> Reporter: IT IS A LONG WAY
00:13:07FROM THE WAR TORN SKIES OF
00:13:11UKRAINE TO THE PEACEFUL WIDE OPEN SKIES OF THE CANADIAN
00:13:14PRAIRIES BUT NOW THE TWO COUNTRIES ARE GETTING CLOSER.
00:13:17>> Prime Minister Mark Carney: CANADA WILL ALWAYS STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH UKRAINE.
00:13:20>> Reporter: CANADA AND UKRAINE
00:13:24SIGNED A NEW 100-YEAR PARTNERSHIP SPANNING DEFENCE, TRADE, AND ENERGY AND A MASSIVE
00:13:27NEW DRONE DEAL. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney:
00:13:31MR. PRESIDENT I HAVE TO CONFESS THAT OUR ARMED FORCES CURRENTLY HAVE BUT 2,000 DRONES IN OUR
00:13:35INVENTORY.
00:13:36IN THE YEARS TO COME WE WILL
00:13:40NEED MILLIONS. >> Reporter: RIPPING A PAGE OUT OF UKRAINE'S WAR TIME
00:13:44EXPERIENCE
00:13:44OTTAWA WILL CREATE ITS OWN WAR
00:13:49-- DRONE MARKETPLACE SO THAT INDIVIDUAL MILITARY UNITS CAN
00:13:52QUICKLY ORDER WHAT THEY NEED. THERE'S A JOINT PRODUCTION DEAL WITH ONE-THIRD OF CANADIAN BUILD
00:13:56DRONES GOING TO UKRAINE AND CANADIAN COMPANIES WILL NOW PARTNER DIRECTLY WITH UKRAINIAN
00:13:59FIRMS. ZELENSKY SAYS THIS WILL GIVE US
00:14:02GREATER CAPACITY TO FINANCE UKRAINE'S DEFENCE WHILE GIVING
00:14:05CANADA NEW TECHNOLOGICAL
00:14:08CAPABILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN IN MODERN WARFARE. ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT CANADA
00:14:12FACES IN THE RACE TO CATCH UP TO UKRAINE IS THE SPEED AT WHICH
00:14:14DRONE TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES. >> SO IF WE HAD 2 MILLION
00:14:18DRONES ON OUR SHELVES THEN IN A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS
00:14:21THEY
00:14:23MAY BE OBSOLETE BECAUSE THE
00:14:26TECHNOLOGY IS EVOLVING SO QUICKLY BUT WE DO HAVE TO CREATE
00:14:30A MANUFACTURING BASE THAT IS CRITICAL OF KEEPING UP WITH THAT SCALE AND ADJUSTING IN A TIME OF
00:14:34NEED.
00:14:35>> Reporter: EACH DAY UKRAINE
00:14:41FACES THAT EVOLUTION TECHNOLOGY. THE LATEST THREAT FROM RUSSIA, JET-POWERED DRONES.
00:14:44COUNTERING THEM AND THE DAMAGE THEY CAN DO IS A MAJOR
00:14:47PREOCCUPATION FOR VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY AS WINTER APPROACHES.
00:14:50MURRAY BREWSTER, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
00:14:52>> Adrienne: TONIGHT DONALD
00:15:00TRUMP IS DEFENDING HIS PROMISE
00:15:04TO GIVE EVERY AMERICAN $5,000 IF REPUBLICANS WIN THE MID TERMS THIS FALL.
00:15:08CRITICS ARE SLAMMING THE IDEA BUT AS KATIE SIMPSON SHOWS US IT
00:15:11CERTAINLY HAS PEOPLE TALKING AS REPUBLICANS CLOSE OUT THEIR TWO-DAY RALLY IN TEXAS.
00:15:15>> Reporter: THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS REPUBLICAN GATHERING IS TO
00:15:18BUILD MOMENTUM AHEAD OF NOVEMBER'S MID TERM ELECTIONS [♪♪]
00:15:21>> Reporter: AND THE U.S.
00:15:24PRESIDENT TRYING TO DO EXACTLY THAT, DEFENDING HIS EXTRAORDINARY PROMISE TO GIVE
00:15:28EACH ADULT U.S. CITIZEN $5,000 SHOULD HIS PARTY WIN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
00:15:32>> HOW IS THAT FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE OR EVEN DOABLE?
00:15:36>> President Donald Trump: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE MONEY HAS TO
00:15:39BE SPENT IN THE UNITED STATES. WE CAN'T GO OUT AND BUY THINGS FROM GERMANY OR FRANKLY CANADA.
00:15:43>> Reporter: TRUMP'S PLAN COULD
00:15:47COST MORE THAN $1 TRILLION AND
00:15:49HE SUGGESTS REVENUES COLLECTED
00:15:52FROM TARIFFS COULD BE USED TO PAY FOR THE PROGRAMME.
00:15:55>> TECHNICALLY, IS IT ILLEGAL? PROBABLY NOT.
00:15:58COURTS IN THE U.S. WOULD GENERALLY SAY A BROAD CAMPAIGN
00:16:01PROMISE ABOUT POLICY, ABOUT GIVING EVERYBODY MONEY IF THE
00:16:05REPUBLICANS WIN, EVEN THOUGH IT CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE A BRIBE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BRIBE.
00:16:08>> Reporter: TRUMP'S TEAM QUICKLY FIRED OFF THIS
00:16:11FUNDRAISING E-MAIL AS REPUBLICANS GET BEHIND THE
00:16:13PLEDGE.
00:16:16>> SO WE'RE IN THE VERY FIRST
00:16:19STAGE WHEN THE PRESIDENT THOUGHS OUT AN IDEA BUT IT'S UP
00:16:23TO US IN CONGRESS TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK, TO GET THE DETAILS RIGHT.
00:16:26>> Reporter: BUT DEMOCRATS SAY THE EXTREME PITCH SHOW THAT
00:16:30REPUBLICANS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR CHANCES IN THE MID TERMS AT A TIME WHEN TRUMP HAS LOW
00:16:34APPROVAL RATINGS AND FAMILIES ARE FACING CHALLENGES WITH THE COST OF LIVING. >> IT'S SORT OF PATHETIC AND
00:16:38SAD AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE IT'S JUST BULLSHIT, AND SAD BECAUSE
00:16:41HE HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND BASICALLY BRIBE THEM.
00:16:45>> Reporter: AS FOR WHAT VOTERS THINK, SOME ARE REACTING WITH
00:16:48SKEPTICISM. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] YOU'RE GOING
00:16:52TO GET $5,000 FROM TRUMP IF THE REPUBLICANS WIN, THEY CAN
00:16:55BELIEVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF BULLSHIT THAT HE HAS SOLD THEM
00:16:58DOWN THE PIKE. >> Reporter: ANOTHER BIG
00:17:02QUESTION IS WHETHER TRUMP HAS THE POWER TO DO THIS.
00:17:04THE LAWYER WE SPOKE WITH SAYS
00:17:10THESE KINDS OF PAYMENTS WOULD REQUIRE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL THOUGH TRUMP IS SAYING HE
00:17:14DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. >> Adrienne: SO KATIE, IT'S
00:17:17PRETTY CLEAR THAT TRUMP WANTS VOTERS JUST TO FOCUS ON THAT
00:17:19PAYMENT PROMISE JUST AS
00:17:23THAT ELECTION CAMPAIGNS RAMP UP.
00:17:26>> Reporter: TRUMP IS
00:17:31DOWNPLAYING THE CONSEQUENCES OF
00:17:33A MAJOR LOSS FOR REPUBLICANS SAYING HE'LL BECOME A BLOCKER OF
00:17:36CONGRESSIONAL LEGISLATION IF DEMOCRATS WIN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
00:17:40>> Adrienne: USING THE POWER OF THE VETO. >>> KATIE SIMPSON IN WASHINGTON
00:17:44TONIGHT.
00:17:48>>> NOT FAR FROM WHERE WE'RE STANDING HERE OFFICIALS HERE IN
00:17:52NEW YORK ARE STILL WORKING TO IDENTIFY THE REMAINS OF MORE THAN 1,000 PEOPLE KILLED IN THIS CITY ON
00:17:559-11. >> WE MADE A PROMISE 25 YEARS
00:17:58AGO AND I WILL NEVER TURN MY BACK, THIS AGENCY WILL NEVER
00:18:00TURN ITS BACK ON THAT PROMISE. >> Adrienne: THAT PROMISE TO
00:18:03NEVER STOP WORKING FOR THE VICTIMS AND THE FAMILIES STILL
00:18:06WAITING. >> I DIDN'T GET A RING, I DIDN'T GET AN I.D.
00:18:10IT'S LIKE HE WENT TO WORK AND THAT'S IT. LIKE, NOTHING.
00:18:13>> Adrienne: AND THE STORIES OF CANADIANS WHOSE LOVED ONES WERE
00:18:16MURDERED IN THE ATTACKS. >> HE SAID I NEED YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU.
00:18:20>> Adrienne: AND A TWIN TRIBUTE IN THE SKY ABOVE MANHATTAN.
00:18:24>>> WE'RE BACK FROM NEW YORK CITY N TWO MINUTE
00:20:45>> Adrienne: THESE ARE DRONES REMARKABLY LIGHTING UP THE NEW YORK SKYLINE LAST NIGHT, FORMING
00:20:49A FULL SCALE RECREATION OF THE TWIN TOWERS AND LIT WITH PURPOSE.
00:20:52THERE ARE 2,977 LIGHTS THERE, ONE FOR EACH VICTIM WHO DIED IN THE ATTACKS.
00:20:56ORGANIZERS SAY THE ART INSTALLATION WAS CREATED WITH THE INPUT FROM SURVIVORS AND
00:20:59FIRST RESPONDERS. >>> WELL, 25 YEARS SINCE THAT
00:21:02HORRIFIC DAY, A LAB IN NEW YORK CITY IS STILL WORKING TO
00:21:05IDENTIFY THE REMAINS OF 40% OF THOSE WHO DIED HERE ON 9-11,
00:21:08MORE THAN 1,000 PEOPLE STILL NOT MATCHED WITH REMAINS, BUT AS
00:21:11YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, A
00:21:13BREAKTHROUGH IN FORENSIC
00:21:18TECHNOLOGY CAN BE THE BREAK
00:21:19THEY SO NEED.
00:21:23IT IS SO HORRIFIC TO SEE, EVEN IN PHOTOS, SO JUST THINK WHAT IT WAS LIKE 25
00:21:27YEARS AGO TO WATCH THIS IN
00:21:31REAL-TIME. IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO BRACE YOURSELF.
00:21:34>> [INDISCERNIBLE] OH, MY GOD! >> Adrienne: BECAUSE WHEN THOSE
00:21:37TOWERS COLLAPSED IN ON THEMSELVES IT WAS ALL BUT
00:21:41IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE IN THE
00:21:43MONSTROSITY OF IT.
00:21:46TERROR AS CHOKING AS THE DUST.
00:21:49IMMEDIATELY A PROMISE WAS MADE.
00:21:51>> TO THE FAMILIES OF THOSE
00:21:552,753 HOMICIDE VICTIMS, WE'RE GOING TO BRING EVERYONE HOME.
00:21:57WE'RE GOING TO WORK NONSTOP.
00:21:59>> Adrienne: THEY HAVE TO.
00:22:05REMAINS HAVE YET TO BE IDENTIFIED FOR 40% OF THOSE KILLED ON 9-11, SO TEN OF THE
00:22:0924 CANADIANS MURDERED HAVE YET TO BE MATCHED WITH REMAINS.
00:22:12>> THE MOST CHALLENGING FORENSIC INVESTIGATION WE'VE EVER SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:22:16>> Adrienne: AS ASSISTANT MEDICAL DIRECTOR MARK DESIRE OF
00:22:19NEW YORK'S CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, HIS OFFICE
00:22:22TRYING TO MATCH REMAINS WITH
00:22:27-- WHATEVER D.N.A. THEY HAVE
00:22:29RECOVERED WITH WHATEVER FAMILY RECORDS THEY ALREADY HAVE.
00:22:33THE DEAD STILL DESERVE THE DIGNITY OF NOT BEING ON DISPLAY.
00:22:37WHAT DRIED AND PRESERVED BONE FRAGMENTS ARE LEFT OF THE
00:22:3922,000
00:22:50REMAINS RECOVERED ARE GROUND DOWN USING THE LATEST TECHNIQUES
00:22:53AND THEY RECENTLY MADE AN EXTRAORDINARY BREAKTHROUGH WE'LL GET TO SOON BUT TO UNDERSTAND
00:22:57HOW UNUSUAL IT IS TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT TIME ISN'T KIND TO THOSE REMAINING
00:23:00FRAGMENTS. THEY'RE GETTING SMALLER AS YOU GO.
00:23:03>> IT'S VERY STRESSFUL FOR THE SCIENTISTS BECAUSE IF THIS ISN'T IT, IF IT ISN'T THE PROCEDURE,
00:23:07IT'S GONE. >> Adrienne: TEST IT, RISK NOT GETTING AN ANSWER AND HAVING
00:23:11NOTHING LEFT OR USE TOMORROW'S
00:23:15-- WAIT FOR TOMORROW'S TECH AND
00:23:18KEEP FAMILY MEMBERS.
00:23:20MEMBERS WAITING DESPERATELY.
00:23:23>> A WOMAN WHOSE MOTHER WAS IN THE SOUTH TOWER SAID MARK, WE
00:23:26DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT. PROMISE ME IF THEY DO FIND HER AFTER THEY DIE, WILL YOU BURY
00:23:30HERE ALONGSIDE ME?
00:23:34YES, WE WILL DO THAT. YOU HAVE MY WORD.
00:23:38>> Adrienne: DEDICATION LIKE THAT ISN'T JUST A JOB, IT'S PERSONAL.
00:23:42MARK DESIRE IS THE LAST OF THE ORIGINAL TEAM STILL
00:23:45WORKING ON MAKING THOSE IDENTIFICATIONS. HE WAS EARLY INTO HIS CAREER IN
00:23:49THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE BACK ON 9-11.
00:23:51>> I GET OUT OF THE TRUCK AND
00:23:55THE FIRST VICTIMS I SAW DIE THAT DAY LANDED RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.
00:23:58>> Adrienne: HE'D BEEN DISPATCHED TO THE TOWER WHEN HE HEARD AN ALMIGHTY CRASH BEHIND
00:24:01HIM.
00:24:05THE SOUTH TOWER STARTING TO
00:24:06COME DOWN.
00:24:10>> THE SMALLEST PIECES OF
00:24:12DEBRIS STARTING TO COME DOWN AND IT KNOCKED ME BACK AND OUT
00:24:15OF MY SHOES. THE MOST VIOLENT MOMENT OF MY
00:24:19LIFE, COVERED UP, FACE DOWN, LISTENING TO THE PIECES OF
00:24:22BUILDING, EARTHQUAKE, AND THEN
00:24:23ALL AT ONCE, COMPLETE SILENCE.
00:24:27YEAH, I'M HERE. >> Adrienne: THIS IS HIM AND
00:24:31HIS COLLEAGUE BRIAN AFTER THEY'D BEEN RESCUED, ADRENALINE
00:24:34MASKING THE PAIN. >> SO I'M WEARING THIS JACKET
00:24:38ON THE WAY DOWN -- >> Adrienne: THAT JACKET RIPPED
00:24:41OFF IN THE COLLAPSE, FOUND DAYS LATER BY FIREFIGHTERS. IT STAYS IN THE LAB TO REMIND
00:24:45ALL WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO, WHO THEY DO IT FOR.
00:24:49FOR THEM, THE NAMES OF THE DEAD
00:24:51LOVINGLY ETCHED ON THE MASSIVE
00:24:55MEMORIAL AT THE FOOTPRINTS OF
00:24:58THE TWIN TOWERS.
00:25:041,099 OF THEM ARE EFFECTIVELY
00:25:06THE LOST WAITING TO BE FOUND.
00:25:10HERE, TOO, THE SCALE OF THE PROMISE TO IDENTIFY THEM SINKS
00:25:13IN. WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE MEDICAL
00:25:17EXAMINERS TALK ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF IDENTIFYING THE
00:25:20REMAINS OF ALL THESE PEOPLE LISTED HERE THEY SOMETIMES SAY
00:25:24THAT EVERYTHING THAT COULD GO WRONG, THAT COULD DEGRADE
00:25:26D.N.A.
00:25:28HAPPENED ON THE SITE ON 9-11,
00:25:30THE JET FUEL, THE EXTREME HEAT, THE FIRES, THE MELTING OF THE
00:25:34BUILDING MATERIALS, THE WATER
00:25:36TO
00:25:38PUT OUT THE FIRES, AND THEN THE SHEER FORCE AND COMPRESSION OF THOSE TOWERS COMING DOWN, ALL
00:25:42OF THAT DESTROYED D.N.A. PUTTING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER IS
00:25:46MONUMENTAL.
00:25:52THE TOWERS CRUSHED INTO A
00:25:55DEBRIS FIELD NEARLY THE SIZE OF
00:26:03FIVE CITY BLOCKS, SOMETIMES
00:26:06HOTTER THAN A CREMATION. >> I DIDN'T GET A RING, I
00:26:10DIDN'T GET AN I.D. PEOPLE GOT CARDS, THEY GOT --
00:26:13THEY FOUND PAPERS WITH THEIR NAMES ON IT. LIKE, I DIDN'T GET -- ZERO.
00:26:17IT'S LIKE HE WENT TO WORK AND THAT'S IT. LIKE, NOTHING.
00:26:21YEAH, SO THAT WAS HIS FAVOURITE PICTURE.
00:26:23>> Adrienne: SEPTEMBER 11 USED TO BE A SPECIAL DAY FOR MONICA
00:26:27EICHEN.
00:26:33IT WAS THE DAY TWO YEARS EARLIER THAT SHE MET THE LOVE OF HER
00:26:36LIFE, MICHAEL EICHEN, AND HIS
00:26:41NAME IS ETCHED INTO THAT MEMORIAL BECAUSE TWO YEARS LATER HE WAS WORKING ON THE 104 FLOOR OF THE SOUTH TOWER AND HE
00:26:45CALLED HIS WIFE AND SAID TO IMMEDIATELY TURN ON THE TV.
00:26:48>> THE LAST THING HE SAID WAS PEOPLE ARE JUMPING OUT OF THE WINDOW, I'VE GOT TO GO.
00:26:52I COULDN'T ACCEPT THAT MOMENT. I'VE BEEN WITH HIM 11 MONTHS,
00:26:54AND WE'RE WAITING TO START A FAMILY, AND I JUST LITERALLY WATCHED HIM GET MURDERED ON TV.
00:26:58>> Adrienne: THERE'S NO SIGN OF
00:27:01HIS REMAINS YET BUT HERE'S WHERE THAT EXTRAORDINARY BREAKTHROUGH
00:27:04MENTIONED EARLIER COMES IN. THE MEDICAL EXAMINERS HAVE BEEN
00:27:08COMBINING D.N.A. TESTING ADVANCES WITH SOPHISTICATED
00:27:10GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH FROM THE
00:27:14NEW YORK POLICE AND JUST LAST MONTH THEY WERE ABLE TO
00:27:15IDENTIFY
00:27:20THE REMAINS OF A WOMAN MURDERED ON 9-11, THE FIRST I.D. MADE IN
00:27:23A YEAR.
00:27:31>> I THINK IT'S SORT OF A NEW FRONTIER AND WE HAD REALLY FOUND A BREAKTHROUGH INNOVATION THAT'S
00:27:35GOING TO OPEN THE DOOR. >> Adrienne: NEW YORK'S CHIEF
00:27:39MEDICAL EXAMINER DR. JASON GRAHAM IS SURE THIS IS THE START
00:27:42OF A NEW SERIES OF IDENTIFICATIONS SO HE HAS A MESSAGE FOR FAMILIES,
00:27:46ESPECIALLY CHILDREN OF 9-11 VICTIMS. >> IN THE UNITED STATES ROUGHLY A THIRD OF OUR POPULATION
00:27:49REALLY
00:27:52WERE EITHER NOT BORN OR HAVE NO LIVING MEMORY OF THE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001, AND SO
00:27:56THERE ARE NO DOUBT FAMILY MEMBERS WHO COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER SAMPLES
00:28:00THAT ARE REFERENCE SAMPLES THAT WE COULD USE IN RENEWING OUR EFFORTS TO TRY AND IDENTIFY THE
00:28:03UNIDENTIFIED REMAINS. >> Adrienne: FOR MONICA THIS
00:28:07MIGHT BE A MOMENT THAT MATTERS. HER MICHAEL WAS ADOPTED AND SHE
00:28:10DOESN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIS
00:28:13BIOLOGICAL FAMILY BUT HOPES SOMEHOW SOMEONE WILL COME FORWARD.
00:28:17>> MAYBE MICHAEL HAS A HALF SIBLING. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET SOMEONE
00:28:21WHO IS RELATED TO HIM.
00:28:22>> Adrienne: AND MAYBE IT SEEMS
00:28:25STRANGE TO TALK ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENTS ALL THESE YEARS
00:28:29LATER BECAUSE IN 2002, NOT THAT LONG AFTER 9-11 OFFICIALS
00:28:31DETERMINED THEY'D SEARCHED AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.
00:28:34DEBRIS MOVED FOR SORTING TO THE HORRIFICALLY NAMED FRESH KILLS
00:28:37LANDFILL. >> WHILE THIS MIGHT BE THE
00:28:41FORMAL CLOSURE OF A PARTICULAR EFFORT, THE EMOTIONS WE FEEL FOR
00:28:44THESE HEROES WILL NEVER END.
00:28:46>> Adrienne: THEY WERE WRONG.
00:28:49MORE DEBRIS WAS THEN FOUND IN 2006 IN A LARGELY DESTROYED BANK
00:28:53BUILDING SO THEY REDOUBLED THEIR
00:28:54SEARCH EFFORTS, EVEN SEARCHING
00:28:59-- EVEN SCANNED MANHOLES, EVENTUALLY FINDING 700
00:29:02MORE BONE FRAGMENTS AND THERE WAS MORE TO COME.
00:29:05IN 2013 PARTS OF THE SECOND PLANE WERE FOUND BETWEEN TWO
00:29:08BUILDINGS NORTH OF GROUND ZERO. EVERY UPDATE, EVERY SCIENTIFIC
00:29:12ADVANCE MEANS ONE MORE HINT OF
00:29:15HOPE BUT NOT EVERYONE GRIEVES THE SAME WAY, NOT EVERYONE WANTS
00:29:19THE SAME THINGS. >> HE DIDN'T WORK IN THE
00:29:22BUILDING. HIS OFFICE WAS MID TOWN.
00:29:25>> Adrienne: ABIGAIL CARTER IS A
00:29:27CANADIAN NOW LIVING IN FRANCE.
00:29:34HER HUSBAND, A BRIT RAISED IN CANADA, WAS KILLED IN THE TERRORIST ATTACKS.
00:29:38>> HE WAS VERY FUNNY AND CHARISMATIC.
00:29:41HE HAD DIFFERENT PERSONAS. HE HAD A VERY, VERY SILLY SIDE AND HE LOVED TO PLAY PRACTICAL
00:29:45JOKES.
00:29:46>> Adrienne: HE HAPPENED TO BE
00:29:50AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE FOR A CONFERENCE WITH SEVERAL OF HIS
00:29:51COLLEAGUES.
00:29:56HE WAS AT WINDOWS OF THE WORLD IN THE NORTH TOWER, ON THE TOP
00:29:59FLOOR. WHEN THE PLANE HIT HE CALLED RIGHT AWAY.
00:30:02>> I WAS SO PREOCCUPIED WITH TRYING TO GET MY DAUGHTER ON THE BUS FOR SCHOOL, I WAS, LIKE, WHY
00:30:06DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL 9-11?
00:30:10I, OF COURSE, REGRET THAT I DIDN'T SAY, I LOVE YOU.
00:30:13IT NEVER OCCURRED TO US THAT IT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME I WOULD TALK TO HIM.
00:30:17>> Adrienne: AND AS WITH MICHAEL EICHEN HIS REMAINS HAVE NEVER
00:30:20BEEN FOUND.
00:30:23THE PROSPECT OF THAT FOR ABIGAIL IS NO COMFORT AT ALL. WHERE DO YOU STAND ON IF YOU
00:30:27WANT TO BE CONTACTED IF THEY FOUND AARON'S REMAINS? >> I THINK IT'S HARD NO ON THAT.
00:30:31I'D JUST RATHER NOT KNOW.
00:30:33LIKE MANY PEOPLE, I SUSPECT HE
00:30:39I KNOW HE WAS THERE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE
00:30:42ONLY POTENTIAL REASON I WOULD WANT TO KNOW, BUT HE CALLED ME AND THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
00:30:46>> Adrienne: THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE BELIEVE MANY OF THE FAMILIES WHOSE REMAINS
00:30:50HAVE NEVER BEEN FOUND ARE JUST LIKE ABBY, THEY DON'T WANT TO
00:30:54KNOW. >> I SEE HIS FINAL RESTING PLACE, I SEE HIM HERE AND HE'S
00:30:57HAPPY.
00:30:59>> Adrienne: THERE ARE FEW FEELINGS MORE PERSONAL AND
00:31:03COMPLICATED THAN GRIEF. MONICA EICHEN WILL TELL YOU IF IT EVER COMES TO BE MICHAEL'S
00:31:07REMAINS WERE FOUND IT WILL BE A RELIEF BUT SHE DOESN'T WANT THEM
00:31:09BACK.
00:31:11SHE WANTS THEM TO STAY IN THE
00:31:209-11 REPOSITORY AT THE MEMORIAL MUSEUM THAT SHE HELPED BUILD. >> I WANT HIM TO STAY THERE
00:31:24BECAUSE HE TOOK HIS LAST BREATH UP HERE.
00:31:27>> Adrienne: WITH HIS FRIEND. >> THAT'S RIGHT, A LOT OF THEM
00:31:29WEREN'T FOUND.
00:31:33FOR ME, THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO COME.
00:31:35THIS IS WHERE I HONOUR HIM.
00:31:39>> Adrienne: THE PROMISE TO
00:31:40PROTECT HIS REMAINS, A SACRED
00:31:43PROMISE THAT REMAINS. TIME, THEY WANT ALL TO KNOW, WON'T CHANGE THAT.
00:31:47>> AFTER YEARS OF PUSHING THAT SCIENCE YOU'RE FINALLY ABLE TO
00:31:50RETURN THAT LOVED ONE TO THEIR FAMILY AND THAT FAMILY IS THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, THAT'S
00:31:54POWERFUL. WE MADE A PROMISE 25 YEARS AGO AND I WILL NEVER TURN MY BACK,
00:31:57THIS AGENCY WILL NEVER TURN OUR BACK ON THIS PROMISE.
00:31:59>> Adrienne: AL QAEDA TRIED TO BREAK AMERICA THAT HORRIBLE DAY.
00:32:03THEY DID NOT. THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T BREAK AMERICANS.
00:32:07>>> AND JUST TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER SENSE OF SCALE WHEN THE WORLD
00:32:10TRADE CENTRE SITE BEHIND ME WAS EXCAVATED THEY FOUND THE FORCE
00:32:14OF THE COLLAPSING TOWERS WAS SO
00:32:15GREAT THEY HAD TO DIG DOWN TO THE BEDROCK TO RECOVER DEBRIS
00:32:19AND REMAINS AND WHEN SHE STARTED
00:32:21-- THEY STARTED EXAMINING THOSE REMAINS THEY REALIZED SOME OF THOSE BONES
00:32:25HAD BEEN THERE FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
00:32:27THAT'S HOW DEEP IT WENT.
00:32:36EVERY DISCOVERY HERE IS A NEW COMPLICATION. >>> AND WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT
00:32:40GROUND ZERO ON FRIDAY MORNING TO BRING YOU COVERAGE OF THE 25
00:32:41ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL.
00:32:45WE'LL BE UP AT 8:00 A.M.
00:32:49EVERYWHERE YOU WATCH CBC NEWS, AND AT NOON EASTERN DAVID COMMON AND CAROLYN STOKES HOST COVERAGE
00:32:52FROM GANDER, NEWFOUNDLAND. WE HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US. >>> WELL, COMING UP, THE 9-11
00:32:56ATTACKS SPARKED AN INTERNATIONAL WAR ON TERROR FOR THE U.S. AND ITS ALLIES BUT WAS IT SUCCESSFUL
00:33:00IN ELIMINATING THE THREAT?
00:33:06>> AN KIDD -- AL QAEDA
00:33:10AFFILIATES A STILL ATT
00:36:05>> Adrienne: TWIN BEAMS OF LIGHT FOR THE TWIN TOWERS SHINE IN NEW
00:36:08YORK. THIS IS A REHEARSAL FOR WHAT
00:36:10WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW NIGHT ON
00:36:15THE 25 ANNIVERSARY OF 9-11. THEY WILL SHINE FROM DUSK UNTIL
00:36:18DAWN. OTHER LANDMARKS WILL BE LIT UP ACROSS THE CITY, ACROSS THE
00:36:22COUNTRY, AND ACROSS THE WORLD,
00:36:23INCLUDING NIAGARA FALLS.
00:36:27THESE LIGHTS CAN BE SEEN FROM ACROSS THE RIVER IN NEW JERSEY. WE SHOT THESE IMAGES FROM THE
00:36:30OFFICIAL STATE MEMORIAL. IT HONOURS MORE THAN 700
00:36:34VICTIMS WITH TIES TO NEW JERSEY WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE 9-11
00:36:37ATTACKS.
00:36:38>>> WELL, THOSE ATTACKS
00:36:41PERPETRATED BY AL QAEDA AND
00:36:43OSAMA BIN LADEN, BUT WHAT
00:36:47-- BUT NOW 25 YEARS LATER WHO HAS BECOME OF THAT GROUP?
00:36:50SENIOR CORRESPONDENT MARGARET EVANS FOUND OUT THAT THEY'RE
00:36:52STILL OUT THERE.
00:36:55THEY'RE STILL A THREAT.
00:36:58>> OUR WAR ON TERROR BEGINS
00:37:02WITH AL QAEDA BUT IT DOES NOT END THERE.
00:37:04IT WILL NOT END UNTIL EVERY
00:37:11EVERY TERRORIST GROUP WITH GLOBAL REACH HAS
00:37:15BEEN FOUND, STOPPED, AND DEFEATED.
00:37:17>> Reporter: 25 YEARS AFTER THE
00:37:20U.S. LAUNCHED WHAT WE KNOW AS THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORS
00:37:23EXPERTS DISAGREE ON HOW MUCH OF A THREAT AL QAEDA STILL POSES TO
00:37:27THE WORLD TODAY, IN DECLINE,
00:37:29DORMANT, OR BIDING ITS TIME.
00:37:35>> THE THREAT FROM MILITANT
00:37:38ISLAMISM IS NOT GONE BUT I WOULD SAY THE THREAT FROM AL
00:37:41QAEDA PHENOMENON, PER SE, IT'S NOT SO RELEVANT TODAY.
00:37:44>> AL QAEDA AFFILIATES ARE STILL KILLING PEOPLE, THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO TAKE TERRITORY,
00:37:48THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO EXERT CONTROL. >> THEIR CAPABILITIES, MUCH,
00:37:52MUCH MORE THAN THEY WERE BEFORE 9-11. THE INTENT, IF WE WANT TO TALK
00:37:55ABOUT INTENT AND CAPABILITIES, THEY'RE BOTH THERE.
00:37:58>> BUT THE UNITED STATES HAS CONDUCTED AN OPERATION THAT
00:38:01KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN, THE
00:38:05THE LEADER OF AL QAEDA, IN AN
00:38:10ACT THAT KILLED THOUSANDS.
00:38:18>> Reporter: THE U.S. FORCED AL QAEDA OUT OF AFGHANISTAN BUT IT TOOK THEM ANOTHER FEW YEARS TO
00:38:22TRACK DOWN BIN LADEN.
00:38:27>> AL QAEDA WAS TERMED AS
00:38:32REACTIVE AFTER AMERICA KILLED
00:38:33BIN LADEN.
00:38:382011 WE SAW AL QAEDA DECLINE QUITE FAST AND ISIS CAME TO TAKE OVER.
00:38:41>> Reporter: ISIS OR THE ISLAMIC
00:38:43STATE BEGAN TO PULL AWAY, LAUNCHING ITS OWN ATTACKS ON THE MIDDLE EAST, EVENTUALLY
00:38:47DECLARING AN ISLAMIC CALIPHATE
00:38:52IN TERRITORY IT SEIZED IN SYRIA AND IRAQ BEFORE ANOTHER COALITION
00:38:55DISLODGED THEM. >> I THINK AL QAEDA HAS LEARNED
00:38:59TO LESSEN THAT IN THE ATTACKS AGAINST THE U.S. AND PERHAPS
00:39:02LARGE SCALE PLOTS AGAINST THE WEST WILL BRING WITH IT
00:39:05REPERCUSSIONS.
00:39:06>> Reporter: SHIFTING THE FOCUS
00:39:10AWAY FROM TRANSNATIONAL ATTACKS TO
00:39:13BUILDING REGIONAL AFFILIATE. AL QAEDA'S BIGGEST EFFORTS IS
00:39:17IN AFRICA. IT ALSO REMAINS IN THE MIDDLE
00:39:20EAST AND SOUTH ASIA, HOPING TO
00:39:23EXPLOIT LOCAL GRIEVANCES TO
00:39:25SEIZE POWER AND TERRITORY.
00:39:28>> TODAY AL QAEDA HAS BRANCHES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
00:39:31WE'VE SEEN SOME OF AL QAEDA AFFILIATES ARE GAINING TERRITORY, ARE GOVERNING, ARE
00:39:35TAXING. >> Reporter: HOW MUCH AL QAEDA
00:39:38CORE AS SOME ANALYSTS CALL IT DIRECTS OR INFLUENCES THOSE
00:39:42SATELLITES ARE OPEN TO DEBATE. >> WE'RE SEEING FINANCIAL
00:39:45FLARES ACROSS THE NETWORK AND WE'RE
00:39:49SEEING SOME FIGHTERS TRAVEL BETWEEN DIFFERENT AFFILIATES AND
00:39:52WE'RE SEEING PROPAGANDA SUPPORTS BETWEEN AFFILIATES SO IT'S
00:39:55CLEAR THAT AL QAEDA IS STILL A GLOBAL
00:39:58NETWORK.
00:40:01>> THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF THE
00:40:04OLD ORGANIZATION BUT YOU HAVE SUPPORTERS THAT CONTINUE TO CALL THEMSELVES AL QAEDA AND TO USE
00:40:08THE AL QAEDA NAME.
00:40:09>> Reporter: BIN LADEN'S
00:40:12SUCCESSOR WAS KILLED IN A U.S. DRONE STRIKE IN KABUL FOUR YEARS
00:40:16AGO. SINCE THEN AL QAEDA'S DE FACTO
00:40:20LEADER IS ASSUMED TO BE AN
00:40:22EGYPTIAN.
00:40:28>> HE WASN'T THE BEST CANDIDATE BUT HE CAME TO BE THE CANDIDATE BECAUSE
00:40:32EVERYONE ELSE WAS KILLED.
00:40:32>> Reporter: ANOTHER SHIFT IN
00:40:39THE LANDSCAPE OF JIHADISH GROUP
00:40:45HAS BEEN THE RISE OF THE NEW
00:40:49SYRIAN PRESIDENT, LEADING
00:40:50SYRIAN REBELS TO OUST BASHIR
00:40:53AL-ASSAD IN 2024. >> IT'S A SYMBOLIC MOVE THAT
00:40:57REPRESENTS THE END OF AL QAEDA BECAUSE THE GUY PUTS ON A SUIT,
00:41:00GOES TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AND MEETS TRUMP, IT SPEAKS FOR
00:41:04ITSELF, I THINK.
00:41:05>> Reporter: BUT NO ONE IS
00:41:08PREACHING COMPLACENCY.
00:41:13ON SOME LEVELS THE DIALS HASN'T MOVED VERY MUCH.
00:41:16THE TALIBAN IS BACK IN POWER IN AFGHANISTAN, HOSTING WHAT SOME ARE DESCRIBING AS A PER MISSIVE
00:41:20ENVIRONMENT FOR MILITANT
00:41:21NETWORKS.
00:41:25>> THERE ISN'T THE KIND OF CONSENSUS OR UNDERSTANDING
00:41:28OF AL QAEDA THAT THERE WAS PERHAPS 10, 15 YEARS AGO BUT IF
00:41:31THE QUESTION IS DOES AL QAEDA STILL POSE A THREAT GLOBALLY,
00:41:35THE ANSWER IS YES.
00:41:38>> Reporter: THE SHADOWS CAST
00:41:43BY 9-11 WERE LONG ONES. >> Adrienne: THE ALLEGED
00:41:47MASTERMIND OF THE ATTACKS ON 9-11 NOW HAS A TRIAL DATE
00:41:50DECADES LATER. HE'S BEEN BEHIND BARS AT
00:41:54GUANTANAMO BAY SINCE 2006.
00:41:57LAST MONTH, A MILITARY JUDGE ANNOUNCED HIS TRIAL WILL START
00:42:01IN JUNE OF 2028.
00:42:04>>> WELL, A WAR IN UKRAINE AND
00:42:06A TARIFF DISPUTE HAS HOME HAS
00:42:10CANADA'S DEFENCE MANUFACTURERS ADOPTING A DIFFERENT STRATEGY.
00:42:14>> IT'S THE LARGEST CANADIAN
00:42:16DELEGATION IN HISTORY ANYWHERE.
00:45:44>> Adrienne: 25 PEOPLE ARE DEAD AFTER A FIRE ABOARD A CARGO SHIP
00:45:46IN CHINA.
00:45:51THE LIBERIAN FLAGGED VESSEL WAS
00:45:54UNDERGOING A REPAIR ON THE
00:45:56SOUTHEASTERN COURT.
00:45:59-- COAST. FIVE OTHER PEOPLE WERE INJURED AND HOSPITALIZED, 12 WERE EVACUATED SAFELY.
00:46:03[♪♪] >> Adrienne: AND AT LEAST FIVE
00:46:07PEOPLE ARE DEAD AND MORE THAN 80 ARE MISSING AFTER A FIRE BROKE
00:46:09OUT ABOARD A FERRY IN THE
00:46:13-- OFF THE COAST IN THE WESTBOUND PHILIPPINES.
00:46:17MORE THAN 40 MANAGED TO SURVIVE, AND THE CAUSE OF THAT FIRE IS
00:46:19UNDER INVESTIGATION. >>> WELL, THE RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR
00:46:22AND THE TRADE FIGHT WITH THE U.S. ARE SHIFTING SOME
00:46:25ALLIANCES.
00:46:30NOW CANADA'S DEFENCE SECTOR HAS TO ADAPT. CANADIAN COMPANIES ARE IN POLAND
00:46:34THIS WEEK PLAYING A MAJOR ROLE AT A DEFENCE TRADE FAIR.
00:46:37AS CHRIS BROWN REPORTS IT'S A POSITION FEW THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE A SHORT TIME AGO.
00:46:40>> Reporter: THE FUTURE OF WAR
00:46:43IS ON SALE IN POLAND THIS WEEK
00:46:47WITH CANADIAN FIRMS MAKING AN UNPRECEDENTED HIGHLY VISIBILITY
00:46:49SALES PITCH ON DRONES,
00:46:54AMMUNITION, AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER LETHAL WEAPONRY. ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO YOU'D NEVER
00:46:57SEE ANYTHING LIKE THIS FROM
00:47:05MOST GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND BANKS WORKING WITH THE CANADIAN DEFENCE SECTOR WAS LARGELY TABOO, BUT THE CARNEY
00:47:09GOVERNMENT
00:47:12IS DRIVING A MASSIVE PIVOT,
00:47:13TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE U.S. DEFENCE DEPARTMENT
00:47:17WHICH BUYS MOST OF CANADA'S DEFENCE TECH.
00:47:21AND LOOKING TOWARDS EUROPE, AND NOW OTTAWA IS ALL IN.
00:47:23>> IT'S THE LARGEST SINGLE
00:47:27DEFENSE DELEGATION IN CANADIAN DEFENCE HISTORY EVER. >> Reporter: GIVEN HOW THEY
00:47:31DOMINATE THE BATTLEFIELD IN UKRAINE SMALL DRONES ARE IN BIG
00:47:32DEMAND HERE.
00:47:39CHARLES BARLOW'S DRONE COMPANY IS ALREADY SUPPLYING ONE NATO ALLY AND HE'S LOOKING TO GET
00:47:43OTHERS. >> WE ACTUALLY MANUFACTURE THIS OUT OF PLYWOOD AND IT ACTUALLY
00:47:45WORKS.
00:47:50>> Reporter: OTHER CANADIAN EQUIPMENT IS BUILT FOR BRUTE FORCE.
00:47:53THIS QUEBEC BASED FIRM ORIGINALLY MADE THIS
00:47:57VEHICLE FOR THE CANADIAN ARCTIC BUT THIS MAN SAYS EUROPEAN
00:47:59BUYERS WANT TO TRY THEM OUT FIRST, DIFFICULT LOGISTICS FOR A
00:48:02CANADIAN COMPANY TO NAVIGATE. >> THERE'S NOTHING LIKE
00:48:05EXPERIENCING DRIVING IT AND CONQUERING TERRAIN.
00:48:07>> Reporter: DEFENCE INDUSTRY
00:48:10EXECUTIVES WELCOME THE EUROPEAN PUSH BUT ARE ALSO REALISTIC
00:48:14ABOUT THE DEEP ROOTED TIES BINDING CANADA TO THE U.S.
00:48:17>> OUR RELATIONSHIP UNDER NORAD HAS GIVEN US PRIVILEGES AND OUR
00:48:20DEFENCE PRODUCTION SHARING
00:48:22AGREEMENT HAS GIVEN US PRIVILEGES THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE, WE CERTAINLY
00:48:26DON'T WANT TO LOSE.
00:48:27>> Reporter: THE HOPE HERE IN
00:48:34POLAND IS SPLASHY ROLL-OUTS LIKE THIS WILL PROVE TO EUROPEAN
00:48:37ALLIES THAT IN A SHIFTING GEOPOLITICAL LANDSCAPE CANADA
00:48:40CAN BE A CRITICAL PARTNER. CHRIS BROWN FOR CBC NEWS, IN POLAND.
00:48:43>> Adrienne: HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK
00:48:47AT THE 9-11 MEMORIAL IN LOWER
00:48:50MANHATTAN AND THOSE TWIN REFLECTING POOLS THAT SIT IN THE FOOTPRINTS OF WHAT WERE ONCE
00:48:54THE TWIN TOWERS AND THERE WILL BE A
00:48:56CEREMONY TOMORROW TO MARK 25
00:49:02YEARS SINCE THAT MURDEROUS DAY. "THE NATIONAL" IS BACK FROM NEW YORK RIGHT AFTER THIS. ♪♪
00:52:38>> Adrienne: IN JUST A FEW HOURS FROM NOW MANY PEOPLE WILL
00:52:40GATHER BEHIND ME TO MARK 25 YEARS
00:52:43SINCE
00:52:45THE 9-11 TERRORIST ATTACKS.
00:52:532,753 PEOPLE WERE MURDERED AT GROUND ZERO INCLUDING 24 CANADIANS.
00:52:56IN THE LEAD-UP TO THIS ANNIVERSARY WE REACHED OUT TO
00:52:59SEVERAL FAMILIES WHOSE LOVED ONES WERE KILLED THAT DAY.
00:53:02HERE'S SOME OF THEIR STORIES. >> AT 9:22 HE CALLED ME AND SAID
00:53:05IT'S GETTING DIFFICULT TO BREATHE.
00:53:08THERE'S SMOKE COMING IN.
00:53:11I NEED YOU TO KNOW THAT I LOVE
00:53:15YOU AND HE NEED TO -- YOU NEED
00:53:19TO PROMISE ME EVERY DAY FOR THE
00:53:22REST OF YOUR LIFE THAT YOU WILL
00:53:27TELL THEM THEIR PAPA LOVES THEM. MY HUSBAND JOEY WAS 32 YEARS OLD AND HE WORKED IN THE WORLD TRADE
00:53:31CENTRE.
00:53:34WHAT I AM MOST PROUD OF IS IN 2017 WE CREATED A CHARITY IN
00:53:37CANADA, ALSO IN THE UNITED STATES, AND SINCE 2017 WE'VE BUILT 19 SCHOOLS IN SOUTH
00:53:41AFRICA IN FRANK'S HONOUR. WE'RE EDUCATING THE MOST
00:53:44VULNERABLE CHILDREN IN HELPING THEM HAVE A CHANCE IN LIFE AND I THINK FRANK'S LEGACY IS
00:53:48STRONGER AND MORE BEAUTIFUL AND MORE
00:53:52POWERFUL THAN IT'S ALREADY BEEN.
00:53:53>> CHRISTINE WAS A WONDERFULLY
00:53:59VIVACIOUS CARING PEOPLE.
00:54:04PERSON.
00:54:04I LOST MY PARTNER CHRISTINA
00:54:09EAGAN AND HER BROTHER MICHAEL IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE.
00:54:12SHE WAS A WONDERFULLY JOYFUL PERSON. SHE MADE LIFE BETTER FOR
00:54:15EVERYONE AROUND HER. CHRIS HAD GONE TO CARE FOR HER
00:54:17BROTHER'S YOUNGER SON WHEN HE
00:54:22WENT AWAY FOR A FEW DAYS FOR
00:54:24HIS 25 WEDDING ANNIVERSARY. ON SEPTEMBER 11 SHE WENT INTO NEW YORK WITH HER BROTHER TO
00:54:28SEE HIS OFFICE.
00:54:30SHE WAS AT HIS OFFICE WHEN THE
00:54:33TOWER WAS HIT. I TRIED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH CHRIS BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO DO
00:54:37SO. 9-11 WAS A TERRIBLE THRESHOLD THAT TOOK US INTO A MUCH DARKER
00:54:40TIME. WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY WAS
00:54:43UNFORGIVABLE AND THE RESPONSE TO IT HASN'T SUCCEEDED IN TAKING US
00:54:46TO A BETTER PLACE. THIS IS A PERPETUAL TASK FOR ALL
00:54:49OF US.
00:54:54LET'S GO FORWARD AND BUILD A BETTER MORE CARING WORLD. CHRIS WOULD HAVE WISHED US TO
00:54:58DO THAT IN HER NAME.
00:55:01>> ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001, MY BELOVED HUSBAND KEN WAS TAKEN
00:55:05FROM ME.
00:55:06HE WAS A COMMUNITY GUY AND DID
00:55:10EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SPEND TIME WITH HIS FAMILY THAT HE
00:55:13ADORED. HE WAS DOWN AT THE WORLD TRADE
00:55:16CENTRE TO NETWORK, TO ATTEND A
00:55:19CONFERENCE ON THE 106 FLOOR. I NOW HAVE 25 YEARS WITHOUT
00:55:22KEN,
00:55:29LONGER THAN I HAD WITH HIM, BUT
00:55:33INSTEAD OF THAT SAYING, NEVER
00:55:36FORGET, REFERRING TO THE HATE AND HORROR AND THE DESTRUCTION
00:55:40THAT DAY, I PREFER TO DWELL ON
00:55:43ALWAYS REMEMBER.
00:55:46ALWAYS REMEMBER THE OUTPOURING
00:55:53OF HUMANITY. KEN WAS A PROUD CANADIAN AND HE
00:55:56WOULD BE PROUD OF THE REACTION OF HIS FELLOW CITIZENS.
00:55:58>> Adrienne: INDEED, ALWAYS REMEMBER.
00:56:02THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE STORIES OF THOUSANDS.
00:56:05WE WILL HEAR SO MANY MORE TOMORROW BECAUSE IT'S A DAY ABOUT THE VICTIMS AND THE
00:56:09EFFORT TO KEEP PEOPLE REMEMBERING WHAT
00:56:12HAPPENED. IT IS EXCRUCIATINGLY FRESH FOR
00:56:15THE FAMILIES BUT IN 25 YEARS IT CERTAINLY NOW SITS IN THE REALM
00:56:18OF HISTORY. >>> SO I'LL BE BACK HERE IN A
00:56:21FEW HOURS' TIME. OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE FROM GROUND ZERO STARTS AT 8:00 A.M.
00:56:25EASTERN.
00:56:26UNTIL THEN, FROM ALL OF US AT
00:56:34"THE NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. I'M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT IN NEW YORK. TAKE [♪♪]
00:56:38[♪♪]
01:00:30>> Interviewer: DO YOU RECALL
01:00:38>> Adrienne: TONIGHT, DESPITE
01:00:42THE FUTURE MARK CARNEY SAYS
01:00:45HE'S STILL SPEAKING WITH DONALD TRUMP.
01:00:48WHAT HE REVEALED ABOUT THE CONVERSATION AND WHY HE SAYS A DEAL IS STILL POSSIBLE.
01:00:51>>> AND WE'RE IN NEW YORK CITY,
01:00:53STEPS FROM GROUND ZERO, 25
01:00:56YEARS AFTER THE TERRORIST ATTACKS THAT CHANGED THE WORLD.
01:01:00FROM