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00:00:25the Canada investment summit in downtown Toronto. downtown Toronto. Prime Minister Mark Carney has
00:00:29Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced he will seek private announced he will seek private investment to operate Canada's
00:00:32investment to operate Canada's four largest airports. four largest airports. Carney says Ottawa will retain
00:00:36Carney says Ottawa will retain ownership of the underlying land ownership of the underlying land and assets but will unlock, in
00:00:39and assets but will unlock, in his words, more value from them
00:00:42his words, more value from them through new capital and
00:00:46through new capital and expertise.
00:00:51expertise. >> Prime Minister Carney: WE'VE >> Prime Minister Carney: WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DECADES OF HAD SEVERAL DECADES OF EXPERIENCE AROUND THE WORLD NOT
00:00:55EXPERIENCE AROUND THE WORLD NOT OF PRIVATIZATION BUT OF MOVING OF PRIVATIZATION BUT OF MOVING TOWARDS AN ARRANGEMENT WHERE
00:00:58TOWARDS AN ARRANGEMENT WHERE PRIVATE OPERATORS COME IN TO PRIVATE OPERATORS COME IN TO MANAGE THE AIRPORTS FOR A PERIOD MANAGE THE AIRPORTS FOR A PERIOD OF DECADES.
00:01:02OF DECADES. THE UNDERLYING ASSETS. THE UNDERLYING ASSETS. THE UNDERLYING AIRPORT RETAINED
00:01:05THE UNDERLYING AIRPORT RETAINED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
00:01:07BY THE GOVERNMENT. OUR PENSION FUNDS OPERATE THESE
00:01:10OUR PENSION FUNDS OPERATE THESE CONCESSIONS AROUND THE WORLD
00:01:12CONCESSIONS AROUND THE WORLD FROM HEATHROW TO A SERIES IN
00:01:14FROM HEATHROW TO A SERIES IN ASIA, AIRPORTS, OKAY? ASIA, AIRPORTS, OKAY? AND THEY HAVE THAT EXPERTISE,
00:01:17AND THEY HAVE THAT EXPERTISE, AND WE'RE BRINGING THAT AND WE'RE BRINGING THAT EXPERTISE BACK HOME.
00:01:20EXPERTISE BACK HOME. I THINK, AND YOU SHOULD ASK THEM I THINK, AND YOU SHOULD ASK THEM DIRECTLY, OBVIOUSLY, I'M SURE
00:01:24DIRECTLY, OBVIOUSLY, I'M SURE YOU WILL, THAT THEY ARE VERY YOU WILL, THAT THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE POSSIBILITY OF
00:01:27INTERESTED IN THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS HAPPENING. THIS HAPPENING. BY THE WAY, THIS IS SOMETHING
00:01:30BY THE WAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ANNOUNCED IN OUR FIRST THAT WE ANNOUNCED IN OUR FIRST BUDGET THAT WE INTENDED TO
00:01:33BUDGET THAT WE INTENDED TO EXAMINE.
00:01:34EXAMINE. SO WE HAVE HAVE BEEN EXAMINING
00:01:37IT FOR A WHILE, AND WE WILL DO CONSULTATIONS IN THE COMING CONSULTATIONS IN THE COMING WEEKS AS WELL. WEEKS AS WELL. >> Aarti: THE CBC'S KARINA ROMAN
00:01:41>> Aarti: THE CBC'S KARINA ROMAN IS AT THE CANADA INVESTMENT
00:01:43IS AT THE CANADA INVESTMENT SUMMIT IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO.
00:01:45SHE JOINS ME NOW LIVE. SO KARINA, WHAT MORE CAN YOU SO KARINA, WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS MOVE TOWARDS
00:01:48TELL US ABOUT THIS MOVE TOWARDS PRIVATE INVESTMENT AT CANADIAN PRIVATE INVESTMENT AT CANADIAN AIRPORTS?
00:01:51AIRPORTS? WHAT OTHER DETAILS DO WE HAVE? WHAT OTHER DETAILS DO WE HAVE? >> Reporter: WELL, I MEAN, THE
00:01:54>> Reporter: WELL, I MEAN, THE PRIME MINISTER WAS PRETTY CLEAR PRIME MINISTER WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY THIS
00:01:58THAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY THIS IS NOT ACTUAL PRIVATIZATION. IS NOT ACTUAL PRIVATIZATION. I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS THAT
00:02:01I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE'S SOME RESISTANCE TO THAT, THERE'S SOME RESISTANCE TO THAT, AND WE -- AND PROBABLY KNOWING
00:02:04AND WE -- AND PROBABLY KNOWING THAT THERE IS SOME RESISTANCE TO THAT THERE IS SOME RESISTANCE TO THAT.
00:02:08THAT. WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS SORT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS SORT OF AN EMERGENCY OR URGENT
00:02:12OF AN EMERGENCY OR URGENT CAUCUS, LIBERAL CAUCUS CALL LAST
00:02:14CAUCUS, LIBERAL CAUCUS CALL LAST NIGHT WITH M.P.s.
00:02:16NIGHT WITH M.P.s. OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO ALSO SELL
00:02:18OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO ALSO SELL THEM ON THIS IDEA OF REALLY THEM ON THIS IDEA OF REALLY PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE
00:02:22PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT, THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT, THE FOUR MAJOR AIRPORTS, BIGGEST
00:02:26FOUR MAJOR AIRPORTS, BIGGEST ONES IN CANADA. ONES IN CANADA. SO THAT WOULD BE VANCOUVER,
00:02:29SO THAT WOULD BE VANCOUVER, TORONTO, MONTREAL AND CALGARY.
00:02:31TORONTO, MONTREAL AND CALGARY. AND THAT THIS BASICALLY MOVES US
00:02:34AND THAT THIS BASICALLY MOVES US FROM A NON-PROFIT MODEL IN TERMS FROM A NON-PROFIT MODEL IN TERMS OF THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORTS
00:02:38OF THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORTS TO A PROFIT-BASED ONE, AND THEN
00:02:41TO A PROFIT-BASED ONE, AND THEN USING SOME OF THAT MONEY, USING SOME OF THAT MONEY, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF IT GOES TO THE
00:02:45OBVIOUSLY SOME OF IT GOES TO THE PRIVATE INVESTORS WHO MAKE A PRIVATE INVESTORS WHO MAKE A PROFIT, BUT SOME OF IT WOULD IN
00:02:49PROFIT, BUT SOME OF IT WOULD IN THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE CONTRACT THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE CONTRACT COME TO THE GOVERNMENT, AND THAT
00:02:53COME TO THE GOVERNMENT, AND THAT WOULD BE USED TO REINVEST IN
00:02:56WOULD BE USED TO REINVEST IN REGIONAL AIRPORTS AND TRY AND REGIONAL AIRPORTS AND TRY AND IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
00:02:59IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAY. WAY. OF COURSE MARK CARNEY WAS ASKED
00:03:03OF COURSE MARK CARNEY WAS ASKED AND MENTIONED TO HIM THAT I'M
00:03:05AND MENTIONED TO HIM THAT I'M SURE HE'S WELL AWARE THAT OTHER SURE HE'S WELL AWARE THAT OTHER GOVERNMENTS IN THE PAST HAVE
00:03:09GOVERNMENTS IN THE PAST HAVE ENTERTAINED THIS IDEA AND ENTERTAINED THIS IDEA AND GOTTEN -- OR MAYBE MORE THAN
00:03:11GOTTEN -- OR MAYBE MORE THAN THIS IDEA IN TERMS OF THIS IDEA IN TERMS OF PRIVATIZATION AND GOTTEN SOME
00:03:14PRIVATIZATION AND GOTTEN SOME REAL PUSHBACK, AND HE WAS ASKED
00:03:16REAL PUSHBACK, AND HE WAS ASKED WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW THAT HE
00:03:18WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW THAT HE THINKS WE SHOULD STILL GO AHEAD THINKS WE SHOULD STILL GO AHEAD WITH SOMETHING IN THIS FORM.
00:03:22WITH SOMETHING IN THIS FORM. HAVE A LISTEN WHAT HE HAD TO HAVE A LISTEN WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. SAY. >> Prime Minister Carney: THIS
00:03:26>> Prime Minister Carney: THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT.
00:03:28TIME IS DIFFERENT. WE ARE LIVING IN DIFFERENT
00:03:30TIMES, AND I COULD ENUMERATE -- I COULD TAKE THE REST OF THE I COULD TAKE THE REST OF THE TIME OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE TO
00:03:33TIME OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE TO GO THROUGH THE REASONS WHY THIS GO THROUGH THE REASONS WHY THIS IS DIFFERENT.
00:03:37IS DIFFERENT. YOU SEE IT IN THE REACTION, BUT
00:03:39YOU SEE IT IN THE REACTION, BUT I WILL FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE,
00:03:41I WILL FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE, WHICH IS WE ARE BUILDING THIS
00:03:47WHICH IS WE ARE BUILDING THIS COU COU COUNTRY. COUNTRY. WE'RE BUILDING THIS COUNTRY IN A
00:03:50WE'RE BUILDING THIS COUNTRY IN A MORE DANGEROUS, DIVIDED WORLD, MORE DANGEROUS, DIVIDED WORLD, HOSTILE WORLD ENVIRONMENT IN
00:03:54HOSTILE WORLD ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF MARKET, A DIFFICULT TERMS OF MARKET, A DIFFICULT MARKET ENVIRONMENT AS WELL. MARKET ENVIRONMENT AS WELL. WE NEED TO RETAIN FISCAL
00:03:58WE NEED TO RETAIN FISCAL DISCIPLINE. DISCIPLINE. THIS GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO THIS GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO THAT.
00:04:01THAT. YOU HEARD MY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU HEARD MY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE WILL BALANCE THE OPERATING
00:04:04WE WILL BALANCE THE OPERATING BUDGET NEXT YEAR, A YEAR
00:04:06BUDGET NEXT YEAR, A YEAR EARLIER, SO WE'RE RETAINING THAT
00:04:09FISCAL DISCIPLINE, THE BEST FISCAL POSITION IN THE G7.
00:04:10FISCAL POSITION IN THE G7. AS WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO BE
00:04:13AS WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO BE SMART WITH HOW WE USE THE ASSETS
00:04:16SMART WITH HOW WE USE THE ASSETS WE HAVE.
00:04:19WE HAVE. >> Reporter: NOW MARK CARNEY >> Reporter: NOW MARK CARNEY DIDN'T GIVE REALLY MORE DETAILS DIDN'T GIVE REALLY MORE DETAILS THAN THAT.
00:04:23THAN THAT. I MEAN, HE WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, YOU KNOW,
00:04:26WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN REAL TERMS. IN REAL TERMS. WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT FOR
00:04:30WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT FOR CANADIANS? CANADIANS? AND HE BASICALLY SAID THAT
00:04:32AND HE BASICALLY SAID THAT DETAILS ARE TO COME, THAT THERE DETAILS ARE TO COME, THAT THERE WILL BE CONSULTATIONS AND
00:04:35WILL BE CONSULTATIONS AND OBVIOUSLY REVELATIONS AS
00:04:37OBVIOUSLY REVELATIONS AS CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED. CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED. WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN SOME
00:04:41WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN SOME PUSHBACK FROM THE CANADIAN PUSHBACK FROM THE CANADIAN LABOUR CONGRESS PUTTING OUT A
00:04:44LABOUR CONGRESS PUTTING OUT A STATEMENT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, STATEMENT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, HIM HIGHLIGHTING THE AUSTRALIAN
00:04:47HIM HIGHLIGHTING THE AUSTRALIAN MODEL DOES NOT GIVE THEM MUCH MODEL DOES NOT GIVE THEM MUCH COMFORT, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT
00:04:50COMFORT, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PURE PRIVATIZATION TALKING ABOUT PURE PRIVATIZATION OF AIRPORTS, THAT IT'S THE WRONG
00:04:54OF AIRPORTS, THAT IT'S THE WRONG ROAD TO GO DOWN. ROAD TO GO DOWN. >> Aarti: NOW, OF COURSE, THIS
00:04:57>> Aarti: NOW, OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS IS JUST ONE OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WE SAW COME OUT OF THAT
00:05:00THAT WE SAW COME OUT OF THAT SUMMIT TODAY, AND WE KNOW THAT SUMMIT TODAY, AND WE KNOW THAT THE SUMMIT IS MOSTLY C.E.O.s AND
00:05:03THE SUMMIT IS MOSTLY C.E.O.s AND HIGH-VALUE ASSET MANAGERS. HIGH-VALUE ASSET MANAGERS. SOME PREMIERS AND INDIGENOUS
00:05:07SOME PREMIERS AND INDIGENOUS LEADERS ARE ALSO THERE FOR THIS LEADERS ARE ALSO THERE FOR THIS SUMMIT, AND THAT MEANS PRIME
00:05:10SUMMIT, AND THAT MEANS PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY IS ALSO MINISTER MARK CARNEY IS ALSO THINKING ABOUT DOMESTIC POLITICS
00:05:13THINKING ABOUT DOMESTIC POLITICS TO ACHIEVE HIS GOALS HERE, TO ACHIEVE HIS GOALS HERE, AMBITIOUS ONES.
00:05:16AMBITIOUS ONES. HOW IS CARNEY MANAGING THIS SORT HOW IS CARNEY MANAGING THIS SORT OF BALANCING ACT?
00:05:19OF BALANCING ACT? >> Reporter: YEAH, IT IS >> Reporter: YEAH, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE
00:05:23IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE,
00:05:25WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, FOREIGN INVESTMENT AND THE WORLD
00:05:27FOREIGN INVESTMENT AND THE WORLD COMING TO CANADA TO PEER IN OUR
00:05:29COMING TO CANADA TO PEER IN OUR SHOP WINDOW, AS THE PRIME
00:05:31SHOP WINDOW, AS THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID, THIS IS ALSO
00:05:34MINISTER HAS SAID, THIS IS ALSO ABOUT DOMESTIC POLITICS.
00:05:35ABOUT DOMESTIC POLITICS. THIS IS PART OF HIS PITCH TO
00:05:38THIS IS PART OF HIS PITCH TO CANADIANS THAT HE IS THE RIGHT
00:05:40CANADIANS THAT HE IS THE RIGHT GUY TO LEAD US THROUGH THESE
00:05:43GUY TO LEAD US THROUGH THESE TURBULENT TIMES AND GET CANADA TURBULENT TIMES AND GET CANADA ON THE RIGHT TRACK TO BE MORE
00:05:47ON THE RIGHT TRACK TO BE MORE RESILIENT AND MORE INDEPENDENT
00:05:49RESILIENT AND MORE INDEPENDENT AND HAVE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
00:05:52AND HAVE ECONOMIC GROWTH. SO THAT'S THE PITCH TO SO THAT'S THE PITCH TO CANADIANS.
00:05:56CANADIANS. THE PITCH TO THE INDIGENOUS THE PITCH TO THE INDIGENOUS LEADERS AND THE PREMIERS,
00:05:58LEADERS AND THE PREMIERS, ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY THE PREMIERS ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY THE PREMIERS ARE PRETTY MUCH ON BOARD WITH
00:06:01ARE PRETTY MUCH ON BOARD WITH THIS SUMMIT, BUT THE INDIGENOUS THIS SUMMIT, BUT THE INDIGENOUS LEADERS IS THAT HE MADE SPECIAL,
00:06:05LEADERS IS THAT HE MADE SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, NOTE THAT THIS IS
00:06:07YOU KNOW, NOTE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN IN THE PAST, THAT DIFFERENT THAN IN THE PAST, THAT THIS IS ABOUT DOING IT IN
00:06:11THIS IS ABOUT DOING IT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND THAT IT WILL BE DONE PROPERLY BECAUSE
00:06:14IT WILL BE DONE PROPERLY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY GET THESE THINGS BUILT
00:06:17ACTUALLY GET THESE THINGS BUILT IS TO GET EVERYONE ON BOARD TO IS TO GET EVERYONE ON BOARD TO BUY INTO THIS PROCESS.
00:06:20BUY INTO THIS PROCESS. HAVE A LISTEN.
00:06:24HAVE A LISTEN. >> Prime Minister Carney: WE >> Prime Minister Carney: WE WILL BUILD INCLUSIVELY, IN FULL
00:06:28WILL BUILD INCLUSIVELY, IN FULL PARTNERSHIP WITH INDIGENOUS PARTNERSHIP WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, FROM THE START.
00:06:31PEOPLES, FROM THE START. I THANK THEIR LEADERS FOR
00:06:33I THANK THEIR LEADERS FOR JOINING US TODAY.
00:06:36JOINING US TODAY. WE WILL ALSO ENSURE THAT WE WILL ALSO ENSURE THAT INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES HAVE
00:06:40INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES HAVE DIRECT STAKES IN THE PROSPERITY
00:06:42DIRECT STAKES IN THE PROSPERITY THAT WE CREATE TOGETHER.
00:06:46THAT WE CREATE TOGETHER. >> Reporter: SO WE'VE ASKED A >> Reporter: SO WE'VE ASKED A LOT OF TIMES, A LOT OF PEOPLE,
00:06:49LOT OF TIMES, A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE FOR THIS SUMMIT, AND FOR
00:06:52LIKE FOR THIS SUMMIT, AND FOR SOME PEOPLE IT'S ACTUALLY DEALS. SOME PEOPLE IT'S ACTUALLY DEALS. SOME OF IT IS JUST MEETINGS AND
00:06:55SOME OF IT IS JUST MEETINGS AND GETTING THE PROCESS STARTED, BUT
00:06:57GETTING THE PROCESS STARTED, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO INDIGENOUS
00:07:01WHEN IT COMES TO INDIGENOUS LEADERS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES LEADERS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES IN CANADA WHO PRETTY MUCH ALL
00:07:05IN CANADA WHO PRETTY MUCH ALL THE MINERALS AND ALL THE OIL AND THE MINERALS AND ALL THE OIL AND GAS AND ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES
00:07:08GAS AND ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES UNDER THE GROUND, IT'S NOT
00:07:10UNDER THE GROUND, IT'S NOT COMING OUT WITHOUT BUY-IN FROM
00:07:13COMING OUT WITHOUT BUY-IN FROM THEM, AND SUCCESS, I SUPPOSE, ON
00:07:16THEM, AND SUCCESS, I SUPPOSE, ON THAT POINT WOULD BE THAT THEY THAT POINT WOULD BE THAT THEY ARE REASSURED THAT THEY WILL BE
00:07:20ARE REASSURED THAT THEY WILL BE TRUE PARTNERS IN THIS PROCESS
00:07:22TRUE PARTNERS IN THIS PROCESS AND THAT THE INVESTORS HERE
00:07:24AND THAT THE INVESTORS HERE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT DOING UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT DOING BUSINESS WITH CANADA MIGHT HAVE
00:07:28BUSINESS WITH CANADA MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY BUT IT'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY BUT IT'S UNIQUE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY NEED
00:07:31UNIQUE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY NEED TO GO FORWARD, WHETHER WE'RE
00:07:33TO GO FORWARD, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY, NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT EQUITY, NOT JUST CONSULTATION.
00:07:37CONSULTATION. >> Aarti: KARINA, THANK YOU FOR >> Aarti: KARINA, THANK YOU FOR THIS. THIS. THAT IS THE CB
00:07:41>>> OKAY, AND FOLLOWING THIS INVESTMENT SUMMIT, THE PRIME INVESTMENT SUMMIT, THE PRIME MINISTER IS NOW SET TO LEAVE FOR
00:07:45MINISTER IS NOW SET TO LEAVE FOR FRANCE LATER ON TODAY. FRANCE LATER ON TODAY. IT'S PART OF AN ONGOING EFFORT
00:07:48IT'S PART OF AN ONGOING EFFORT TO STRENGTHEN TIES ABROAD. TO STRENGTHEN TIES ABROAD. LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S ASHLEY
00:07:51LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S ASHLEY BURKE. BURKE. SHE'S ABOUT TO BOARD THE PLANE SHE'S ABOUT TO BOARD THE PLANE THAT WILL BE PICKING UP MARK
00:07:55THAT WILL BE PICKING UP MARK CARNEY IN TORONTO. CARNEY IN TORONTO. SHE'S PART OF THAT PRESS POOL SHE'S PART OF THAT PRESS POOL THAT WILL BE TRAVELLING ON THIS
00:07:59THAT WILL BE TRAVELLING ON THIS TRIP. TRIP. SO ASHLEY, WHAT IS THE PRIME SO ASHLEY, WHAT IS THE PRIME MINISTER AIMING TO DO ON THIS
00:08:03MINISTER AIMING TO DO ON THIS TRIP TO EUROPE? TRIP TO EUROPE? >> Ashley: WELL, FRESH OFF OF
00:08:06>> Ashley: WELL, FRESH OFF OF HIS PITCH TO INVESTORS FROM HIS PITCH TO INVESTORS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, MARK CARNEY
00:08:09AROUND THE WORLD, MARK CARNEY WILL BE TRAVELLING TO EUROPE, WILL BE TRAVELLING TO EUROPE, THE SECOND-LARGEST ECONOMY
00:08:12THE SECOND-LARGEST ECONOMY BEHIND THE U.S., TO TRY AND MAKE BEHIND THE U.S., TO TRY AND MAKE HIS PITCH THERE FOR CLOSER
00:08:15HIS PITCH THERE FOR CLOSER COOPERATION AND TIES. COOPERATION AND TIES. THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID THAT
00:08:18THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID THAT CANADA IS NOT TRYING TO JOIN THE
00:08:20CANADA IS NOT TRYING TO JOIN THE E.U. IN ANY WAY, BUT IT IS E.U. IN ANY WAY, BUT IT IS PLANNING TO ENTER INTO WHAT IT
00:08:24PLANNING TO ENTER INTO WHAT IT CALLED INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS TO
00:08:26CALLED INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS TO STRIKE WHAT HE CALLED A UNIQUE
00:08:29STRIKE WHAT HE CALLED A UNIQUE ALLIANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALLIANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, AND
00:08:33BEFORE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, AND HERE'S WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HERE'S WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT TODAY.
00:08:35HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT TODAY. >> Prime Minister Carney: >> Prime Minister Carney: THERE'S AN ECONOMIC COMPONENT,
00:08:38THERE'S AN ECONOMIC COMPONENT, BUT IT IS ABOUT GREATER BUT IT IS ABOUT GREATER SOVEREIGNTY, HAVING
00:08:42SOVEREIGNTY, HAVING PARTNERSHIPS. PARTNERSHIPS. AND SO THEN YOU START TO SAY, AND SO THEN YOU START TO SAY, WELL, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY PUT
00:08:46WELL, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY PUT THAT INTO PLACE. THAT INTO PLACE. IT'S IN A SERIES OF STRATEGIC IT'S IN A SERIES OF STRATEGIC AREAS.
00:08:49AREAS. YES, ENERGY, WHERE THEY NEED OUR YES, ENERGY, WHERE THEY NEED OUR ENERGY.
00:08:52ENERGY. WE WILL HAVE SOME BENEFIT FROM WE WILL HAVE SOME BENEFIT FROM SOME OF THEIR CLEAN ENERGY
00:08:55SOME OF THEIR CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND INVESTORS, TECHNOLOGY AND INVESTORS, WITHOUT QUESTION.
00:08:58WITHOUT QUESTION. >> Ashley: ALONG WITH ENERGY, HE >> Ashley: ALONG WITH ENERGY, HE SAYS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET
00:09:01SAYS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET CLOSER WITH THE E.U. ON OTHER CLOSER WITH THE E.U. ON OTHER STRATEGIC AREAS AS WELL,
00:09:05STRATEGIC AREAS AS WELL, INCLUDING CRITICAL MINERALS, INCLUDING CRITICAL MINERALS, A.I., DEFENCE AND SECURITY, BUT
00:09:09A.I., DEFENCE AND SECURITY, BUT THE PRIME MINISTER ALSO SAID NOT
00:09:11THE PRIME MINISTER ALSO SAID NOT TO EXPECT SOME BIG REVEAL ON TO EXPECT SOME BIG REVEAL ON THIS TRIP ABOUT DETAILS OF WHAT
00:09:14THIS TRIP ABOUT DETAILS OF WHAT THIS RELATIONSHIP WILL LOOK THIS RELATIONSHIP WILL LOOK LIKE. LIKE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE
00:09:18THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL AT THE E.U.-CANADA
00:09:21MORE DETAIL AT THE E.U.-CANADA SUMMIT NEXT MONTH, AND THIS IS SUMMIT NEXT MONTH, AND THIS IS PART OF ONGOING DISCUSSIONS THAT
00:09:25PART OF ONGOING DISCUSSIONS THAT STARTED LAST YEAR AS CANADA HAS STARTED LAST YEAR AS CANADA HAS TRIED TO PIVOT AWAY FROM SO MUCH
00:09:29TRIED TO PIVOT AWAY FROM SO MUCH RELIANCE ON THE U.S. RELIANCE ON THE U.S. TAKE A LISTEN.
00:09:31TAKE A LISTEN. >> BOTH EUROPE AND CANADA ARE
00:09:33>> BOTH EUROPE AND CANADA ARE UNDER ATTACK, FRANKLY, BY THE
00:09:36UNDER ATTACK, FRANKLY, BY THE UNITED STATES, ON OUR ECONOMY, UNITED STATES, ON OUR ECONOMY, ON OUR SOVEREIGNTY, AND THAT IS
00:09:39ON OUR SOVEREIGNTY, AND THAT IS PUSHING US CLOSER TOGETHER. PUSHING US CLOSER TOGETHER. SO THE TIMING OF THIS TRIP
00:09:42SO THE TIMING OF THIS TRIP COULDN'T BE BETTER. COULDN'T BE BETTER. WE NEED TO BUILD RELATIONS WITH WE NEED TO BUILD RELATIONS WITH EUROPE.
00:09:46EUROPE. WE NEED TO COORDINATE BETTER. WE NEED TO COORDINATE BETTER. WE NEED TO BUILD OUR TRADE TIES.
00:09:49WE NEED TO BUILD OUR TRADE TIES. >> Ashley: HE SAYS THIS TRIP >> Ashley: HE SAYS THIS TRIP ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO DONALD
00:09:53ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO DONALD TRUMP THAT CANADA HAS OTHER TRUMP THAT CANADA HAS OTHER OPTIONS.
00:09:56OPTIONS. >> Aarti: THERE WILL BE MEETINGS >> Aarti: THERE WILL BE MEETINGS WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, BUT
00:09:59WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, BUT HE'S ALSO SET TO ADDRESS THE HE'S ALSO SET TO ADDRESS THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT.
00:10:02EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM E.U. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM E.U. M.P.s ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE
00:10:05M.P.s ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE EXPECTING TO COME OUT OF THAT EXPECTING TO COME OUT OF THAT ADDRESS?
00:10:08ADDRESS? >> Ashley: YEAH, THE PRIME >> Ashley: YEAH, THE PRIME MINISTER IS EXPECTED TO DELIVER MINISTER IS EXPECTED TO DELIVER HIS OWN SPEECH AT EUROPEAN
00:10:12HIS OWN SPEECH AT EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT. PARLIAMENT. ALSO ATTEND THE EUROPEAN
00:10:15ALSO ATTEND THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION PRESIDENT, URSULA VON
00:10:18COMMISSION PRESIDENT, URSULA VON DER LEYEN, AND STATE OF THE DER LEYEN, AND STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS. UNION ADDRESS. WE'RE TOLD THIS IS THE FIRST
00:10:22WE'RE TOLD THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN TIME A PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN INVITED TO THAT AND THAT BOTH OF
00:10:25INVITED TO THAT AND THAT BOTH OF THE LEADERS' SPEECHES WILL FOCUS THE LEADERS' SPEECHES WILL FOCUS ON HOW TO DEEPEN THE
00:10:28ON HOW TO DEEPEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA AND RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA AND THE E.U., AND I CAN TELL YOU
00:10:31THE E.U., AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH FROM THAT EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH FROM EUROPEAN MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
00:10:34EUROPEAN MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO WHO THAT WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO WHO SAY THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THEM
00:10:37SAY THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THEM MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL, TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL, TO STRIKE SOME SORT OF STRATEGIC
00:10:40STRIKE SOME SORT OF STRATEGIC ALLIANCE THAT GOES BEYOND ALLIANCE THAT GOES BEYOND M.O.U.s AND SIGNING AGREEMENTS
00:10:43M.O.U.s AND SIGNING AGREEMENTS AND DELIVERS SOME CONCRETE AND DELIVERS SOME CONCRETE RESULTS, INCLUDING BOOSTING RESULTS, INCLUDING BOOSTING TRADE.
00:10:47TRADE. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN. >> THE EUROPEANS LOOK VERY
00:10:50>> THE EUROPEANS LOOK VERY POSITIVE ON HIM, ON THAT SPEECH POSITIVE ON HIM, ON THAT SPEECH IN DAVOS, AND HE NAILED IT.
00:10:54IN DAVOS, AND HE NAILED IT. HE PUT IT REALLY IN THE RIGHT HE PUT IT REALLY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
00:10:58DIRECTION. I THINK IN THOSE UNCERTAIN TIMES I THINK IN THOSE UNCERTAIN TIMES WE BOTH, THE EUROPEAN UNION, THE
00:11:01WE BOTH, THE EUROPEAN UNION, THE EUROPEANS AND CANADIANS, HAVE A
00:11:03EUROPEANS AND CANADIANS, HAVE A HUGE INTEREST IN ELEVATED
00:11:07HUGE INTEREST IN ELEVATED COOPERATION, CLOSER COOPERATION.
00:11:09COOPERATION, CLOSER COOPERATION. >> Ashley: HERE IN CANADA, THE >> Ashley: HERE IN CANADA, THE CONSERVATIVES SAY THEY WANT TO
00:11:13CONSERVATIVES SAY THEY WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CANADA IS
00:11:16KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CANADA IS PROPOSING WITH THE E.U. AND IF PROPOSING WITH THE E.U. AND IF ANYTHING IS -- CANADA IS GIVING
00:11:19ANYTHING IS -- CANADA IS GIVING ANYTHING UP TO GET TO THIS
00:11:25>> Aarti: OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THIS,
00:11:27OF THE CANADIAN LABOUR CONGRESS IN TORONTO. IN TORONTO. >> TURNING TO BREAKING NEWS
00:11:31>> TURNING TO BREAKING NEWS RELATION TO AN ALLEGED THREAT TO
00:11:32RELATION TO AN ALLEGED THREAT TO THE PRIME MINISTER'S LIVE LI.
00:11:37THE PRIME MINISTER'S LIVE LI. A CALGARY MAN HAS BEEN CHAR ARRD
00:11:41A CALGARY MAN HAS BEEN CHAR ARRD AND CHARGE. AND CHARGE. DARREN McCAFFREY JOINS ME NOW.
00:11:44DARREN McCAFFREY JOINS ME NOW. >> THE MAN ARRESTED AND CHARGED
00:11:46>> THE MAN ARRESTED AND CHARGED IS JAMIE DeCOSTE TAYLOR CHARGEDH
00:11:54IS JAMIE DeCOSTE TAYLOR CHARGEDH UTTERING THREATS AGAINST MARK UTTERING THREATS AGAINST MARK CARNEY. CARNEY. THIS CAME FROM THE R.C.M.P.
00:11:58THIS CAME FROM THE R.C.M.P. , ITS NATIONAL SECURITY
00:12:00, ITS NATIONAL SECURITY ENFORCEMENT TEAM CALLED INSET
00:12:04ENFORCEMENT TEAM CALLED INSET THEY RECEIVED THE INFORMATION IN
00:12:06THEY RECEIVED THE INFORMATION IN JULY THAT A YOUTUBER POSTED
00:12:11JULY THAT A YOUTUBER POSTED THIS. THIS. THAT LED TO THE ARREST AND
00:12:13THAT LED TO THE ARREST AND CHARGING, A RESIDENT OF CALGARY,
00:12:16CHARGING, A RESIDENT OF CALGARY, UNDER THE CRIMINAL CODE SECTION
00:12:21UNDER THE CRIMINAL CODE SECTION 264.1. 264.1. NOW HE'S CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY
00:12:24NOW HE'S CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY AND IS DUE TO MAKE A COURT
00:12:26AND IS DUE TO MAKE A COURT APPEARANCE IN CALGARY LATER ON APPEARANCE IN CALGARY LATER ON TODAY.
00:12:29TODAY. ANDREW, WE HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC ANDREW, WE HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
00:12:32INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF THREATS, PARTICULARLY AGAINST THREATS, PARTICULARLY AGAINST THE PRIME MINISTER, IN RECENT
00:12:35THE PRIME MINISTER, IN RECENT YEARS, WHETHER THAT'S JUSTIN YEARS, WHETHER THAT'S JUSTIN TRUDEAU OR MARK CARNEY.
00:12:38TRUDEAU OR MARK CARNEY. IN FACT ACCORDING TO THE PRIVY
00:12:39IN FACT ACCORDING TO THE PRIVY COUNCIL OFFICE, THERE WAS 79
00:12:42COUNCIL OFFICE, THERE WAS 79 THREATS MADE OVER 110 DAYS TO
00:12:44THREATS MADE OVER 110 DAYS TO MARK CARNEY WHILE HE WAS LIBERAL MARK CARNEY WHILE HE WAS LIBERAL LEADER AND THEN PRIME MINISTER,
00:12:48LEADER AND THEN PRIME MINISTER, 12 OF THOSE THREATS WERE LISTED
00:12:5012 OF THOSE THREATS WERE LISTED AS DIRECT WITH THE LAST THS
00:12:58AS DIRECT WITH THE LAST THS INDIRECT. INDIRECT. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CASE, THE
00:13:01WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CASE, THE MAN FACING THE ONE COUNT OF
00:13:10THANK YOU. THE CBC'S DARREN McCAFFREY. THE CBC'S DARREN McCAFFREY. CANADA'S PUSH TO DIVERSIFY IS
00:13:13CANADA'S PUSH TO DIVERSIFY IS BEING SPURRED TODAY BY A NEW BEING SPURRED TODAY BY A NEW ROUND OF U.S. TARIFFS.
00:13:17ROUND OF U.S. TARIFFS. 50% LEVIES ON MORE THAN 100
00:13:2050% LEVIES ON MORE THAN 100 CANADIAN PRODUCTS CAME INTO CANADIAN PRODUCTS CAME INTO EFFECT EARLY THIS MORNING.
00:13:23EFFECT EARLY THIS MORNING. THE WHITE HOUSE IS IT REMOVING THE WHITE HOUSE IS IT REMOVING OTHER TARIFFS ON A SMALLER LIST OTHER TARIFFS ON A SMALLER LIST OF GOODS.
00:13:27OF GOODS. THE CBC'S DAVID THURTON IS ON THE CBC'S DAVID THURTON IS ON THE STORY AND JOINS US LIVE FROM THE STORY AND JOINS US LIVE FROM OUR OTTAWA BUREAU.
00:13:31OUR OTTAWA BUREAU. WHAT IS THIS TWEAKING OF TARIFFS
00:13:33WHAT IS THIS TWEAKING OF TARIFFS SAYING ABOUT WASHINGTON'S SAYING ABOUT WASHINGTON'S INTENTIONS?
00:13:37INTENTIONS? >> Reporter: ANDREW, WE CAN'T >> Reporter: ANDREW, WE CAN'T FORGET THAT CERTAIN GOODS GOING
00:13:40FORGET THAT CERTAIN GOODS GOING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INTO THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA ARE FACING A NEW ROUND OF
00:13:43CANADA ARE FACING A NEW ROUND OF TARIFFS THAT TAKE EFFECT TODAY. TARIFFS THAT TAKE EFFECT TODAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN
00:13:47WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN PAPER, WOOD AND ALUMINUM PAPER, WOOD AND ALUMINUM PRODUCTS COMING FROM CANADA INTO
00:13:50PRODUCTS COMING FROM CANADA INTO THE UNITED STATES FACING NEW THE UNITED STATES FACING NEW TARIFFS.
00:13:52TARIFFS. AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE ARE CERTAIN
00:13:56MENTIONED, THERE ARE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO GET BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO GET A BREAK FROM TARIFFS BECAUSE THE
00:13:59A BREAK FROM TARIFFS BECAUSE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS TAKING THOSE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS TAKING THOSE TRADE PROTECTION MEASURES AWAY.
00:14:02TRADE PROTECTION MEASURES AWAY. WE'LL GET INTO THAT, BUT FIRST WE'LL GET INTO THAT, BUT FIRST LET'S HEAR FROM ONE OF THOSE
00:14:05LET'S HEAR FROM ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT CONTINUES TO BE
00:14:07BUSINESSES THAT CONTINUES TO BE IMPACTED BY THE TRADE WAR.
00:14:11IMPACTED BY THE TRADE WAR. HERE'S A GOLF MANUFACTURER WHO HERE'S A GOLF MANUFACTURER WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPACTS.
00:14:15SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPACTS. >> SHIPPING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF >> SHIPPING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND
00:14:18CHICAGO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND IT WAS KIND OF A MINOR TARIFF
00:14:20IT WAS KIND OF A MINOR TARIFF THAT WE COULD ABSORB AT ABOUT
00:14:22THAT WE COULD ABSORB AT ABOUT $450 TO DO THAT AND ABOUT A $450 TO DO THAT AND ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF LATER, WE
00:14:26MONTH AND A HALF LATER, WE SHIPPED ONE TO A CUSTOMER IN
00:14:27SHIPPED ONE TO A CUSTOMER IN HAWAII AND IT WAS A HAWAII AND IT WAS A $4,800 TARIFF.
00:14:31$4,800 TARIFF. SO THE -- YOU KNOW IT'S SO THE -- YOU KNOW IT'S UNPREDICTABLE.
00:14:34UNPREDICTABLE. WE'VE JUST DONE A COMPANY WIDE WE'VE JUST DONE A COMPANY WIDE POLICY ON NOT SHIPPING TO THE
00:14:38POLICY ON NOT SHIPPING TO THE U.S. AND NOT SELLING TO THAT U.S. AND NOT SELLING TO THAT MARKET BECAUSE WE CAN'T PREDICT
00:14:41MARKET BECAUSE WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE COST WISE.
00:14:45COST WISE. >> Reporter: NOW AS I >> Reporter: NOW AS I MENTIONED, ANDREW, THERE ARE
00:14:48MENTIONED, ANDREW, THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES GETTING A BREAK, SOME BUSINESSES GETTING A BREAK, THE TARIFFS ARE GOING AWAY ON
00:14:52THE TARIFFS ARE GOING AWAY ON TOILET PAPER, ROAD SALT AND TOILET PAPER, ROAD SALT AND CEMENT AND I THINK THESE
00:14:55CEMENT AND I THINK THESE PRODUCTS ARE A BIT OF A TELL AND PRODUCTS ARE A BIT OF A TELL AND THEY REVEAL SOME OF THE
00:14:59THEY REVEAL SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES OF THE U.S. VULNERABILITIES OF THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION IN THIS TRADE ADMINISTRATION IN THIS TRADE WAR.
00:15:03WAR. SO WHEN IT COMES TO TOILET SO WHEN IT COMES TO TOILET PAPER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
00:15:06PAPER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CONSUMER PRODUCT, EVERYONE A CONSUMER PRODUCT, EVERYONE USES TOILET PAPER, AND IF YOU
00:15:10USES TOILET PAPER, AND IF YOU IMPOSE A TARIFF ON THIS, THIS IMPOSE A TARIFF ON THIS, THIS INCREASES THE PRICE AT THE CHECK
00:15:13INCREASES THE PRICE AT THE CHECK OUT COUNTER, AND WE KNOW THAT
00:15:15OUT COUNTER, AND WE KNOW THAT AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG CONCERN
00:15:18AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG CONCERN FOR U.S. CONSUMERS. FOR U.S. CONSUMERS. WHEN IT COMES TO ROCK SALT, AN
00:15:22WHEN IT COMES TO ROCK SALT, AN INTERESTING THING THAT THE U.S. INTERESTING THING THAT THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING AWAY
00:15:25ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING AWAY THE TARIFF ON, BUT LOOK, THIS IS
00:15:28THE TARIFF ON, BUT LOOK, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S USED ACROSS
00:15:32SOMETHING THAT'S USED ACROSS NORTHERN STATES IN THE UNITED NORTHERN STATES IN THE UNITED STATES AND WHEN IT COMES TO SOME
00:15:35STATES AND WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE BORDER STATES, THE U.S.
00:15:39OF THE BORDER STATES, THE U.S. MID-TERMS ARE GOING TO BE MID-TERMS ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGING FOR THE REPUBLICANS,
00:15:42CHALLENGING FOR THE REPUBLICANS, IT'S GOING TO BE CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO BE CERTAINLY INTERESTING WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTERESTING WHEN IT COMES TO THE U.S. MID-TERMS FOR THE
00:15:46U.S. MID-TERMS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. REPUBLICAN PARTY. SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO
00:15:49SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CEMENT, THE TARIFFS WILL BE GONE CEMENT, THE TARIFFS WILL BE GONE ON THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING
00:15:52ON THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS USED ACROSS STATES IN
00:15:55THAT IS USED ACROSS STATES IN THE UNITED STATES AND IT IS
00:15:57THE UNITED STATES AND IT IS USED, OF COURSE, IN CRITICAL USED, OF COURSE, IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, HOME BUILDING,
00:16:01INFRASTRUCTURE, HOME BUILDING, HOUSING. HOUSING. THAT KIND OF THING.
00:16:04THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. IT'S AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. IT'S A STRATEGIC ISSUE FOR THE
00:16:07IT'S A STRATEGIC ISSUE FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND SO IT'S NOT U.S. GOVERNMENT AND SO IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE WHY THE U.S.
00:16:11HARD TO SEE WHY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD REMOVE THE GOVERNMENT WOULD REMOVE THE TARIFFS ON CEMENT AND THOSE
00:16:14TARIFFS ON CEMENT AND THOSE OTHER PRODUCTS I MENTIONED. OTHER PRODUCTS I MENTIONED. SO YEAH, SOME TARIFFS ARE TAKING
00:16:18SO YEAH, SOME TARIFFS ARE TAKING EFFECT TODAY, BUT SOME TARIFFS EFFECT TODAY, BUT SOME TARIFFS ARE BEING REMOVED SO THAT IMPACT
00:16:21ARE BEING REMOVED SO THAT IMPACT IS MIXED FOR CANADIAN BUSINESSES IS MIXED FOR CANADIAN BUSINESSES TODAY.
00:16:25TODAY. >> Andrew: WHERE DO THINGS >> Andrew: WHERE DO THINGS STAND WITH U.S. TRADE TALKS AT STAND WITH U.S. TRADE TALKS AT THIS MOMENT?
00:16:29THIS MOMENT? >> Reporter: YEAH, THERE'S A
00:16:32COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING THAT TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING THAT CANADA WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL, BUT
00:16:36CANADA WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME EARMUFFS TEST
00:16:37AT THE SAME TIME EARMUFFS TEST PRATT TO MAKE WE'E
00:16:42PRATT TO MAKE WE'E TO MAKE A DEAL. TO MAKE A DEAL. THE U.S. IS BANNING CERTAIN
00:16:46THE U.S. IS BANNING CERTAIN ALCOHOL, DAIRY AND MOTORCYCLES ALCOHOL, DAIRY AND MOTORCYCLES COMING FROM CANADA INTO THE U.S.
00:16:49COMING FROM CANADA INTO THE U.S. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A BIG AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A BIG THREAT AGAINST CANADA'S AUTO
00:16:53THREAT AGAINST CANADA'S AUTO SECTOR WRIT LARGE IN THE NEW SECTOR WRIT LARGE IN THE NEW YEAR.
00:16:56YEAR. IN SPITE OF ALL OF THAT, CARNEY IN SPITE OF ALL OF THAT, CARNEY SEEMS TO BE KEEPING QUITE BUSY.
00:16:59SEEMS TO BE KEEPING QUITE BUSY. HE IS ATTENDING THIS INVESTMENT
00:17:01HE IS ATTENDING THIS INVESTMENT SUMMIT IN TORONTO, STILL SUMMIT IN TORONTO, STILL REPORTERS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS
00:17:05REPORTERS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH NEGOTIATIONS.
00:17:08NEGOTIATIONS. HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE'S A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL
00:17:12THERE'S A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL DEAL POSSIBLE. DEAL POSSIBLE. CANADA CONTINUES TO STAND READY
00:17:16CANADA CONTINUES TO STAND READY TO DEVELOP THAT AND PURSUE IT.
00:17:18TO DEVELOP THAT AND PURSUE IT. IT HAS TO BE ONE THAT THERE'S
00:17:21IT HAS TO BE ONE THAT THERE'S CLEAR ALIGNMENT OF INTERESTS AND
00:17:26CLEAR ALIGNMENT OF INTERESTS AND A SEQUENCING THAT IS CONSISTENT
00:17:29A SEQUENCING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH IMPLEMENTATION.
00:17:32WITH IMPLEMENTATION. >> Reporter: SO AFTER THIS >> Reporter: SO AFTER THIS SUMMIT, CARNEY HEADS TO EUROPE
00:17:36SUMMIT, CARNEY HEADS TO EUROPE TO DELIVER A SPEECH TO THE E.U. TO DELIVER A SPEECH TO THE E.U. PARLIAMENT.
00:17:39PARLIAMENT. TRUMP MIGHT BE SAYING CANADA IS TRUMP MIGHT BE SAYING CANADA IS DESPERATE TO MAKE A DEAL.
00:17:42DESPERATE TO MAKE A DEAL. BUT JUDGING FROM CARNEY'S
00:18:00[YELLING] >> Aarti: OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE >> Aarti: OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE SCENE LAST NIGHT IN CALGARY.
00:18:04SCENE LAST NIGHT IN CALGARY. N.D.P. LEADER NAHEED NENSHI N.D.P. LEADER NAHEED NENSHI INTRODUCING KYLE CAMPBELL, WHO
00:18:08INTRODUCING KYLE CAMPBELL, WHO WON THE PROVINCIAL BY-ELECTION WON THE PROVINCIAL BY-ELECTION IN THE RIDING OF CALGARY SHAW.
00:18:12IN THE RIDING OF CALGARY SHAW. CAMPBELL WON WITH 47% OF THE CAMPBELL WON WITH 47% OF THE VOTE.
00:18:15VOTE. THAT COMPARED TO THE 43% THAT COMPARED TO THE 43% GARNERED BY MIKE DERRY OF
00:18:19GARNERED BY MIKE DERRY OF PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH'S UNITED PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH'S UNITED CONSERVATIVE PARTY, AND IT'S THE
00:18:22CONSERVATIVE PARTY, AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE N.D.P. HAS WON FIRST TIME THE N.D.P. HAS WON THE SEAT SINCE THE 2015 ELECTION
00:18:26THE SEAT SINCE THE 2015 ELECTION WHEN RACHEL NOTLEY'S NEW WHEN RACHEL NOTLEY'S NEW DEMOCRATS FORMED THE PROVINCIAL
00:18:30DEMOCRATS FORMED THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT. OKAY, SO FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S
00:18:33OKAY, SO FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S JASON MARK BRING IN THE CBC'S JASON MARK USSOFF.
00:18:36USSOFF. HE JOINS US NOW FROM CALGARY. HE JOINS US NOW FROM CALGARY. JASON, THIS IS INTERESTING,
00:18:40JASON, THIS IS INTERESTING, ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR PROVINCIAL POLITICS IN ALBERTA?
00:18:44PROVINCIAL POLITICS IN ALBERTA? >> Reporter: WE ARE EXPECTING A >> Reporter: WE ARE EXPECTING A VERY SLEEPY BY-ELECTION, JUST AN
00:18:47VERY SLEEPY BY-ELECTION, JUST AN ALBERTA CABINET MINISTER WHO HAD ALBERTA CABINET MINISTER WHO HAD LEFT TO BECOME AN OIL AND GAS
00:18:50LEFT TO BECOME AN OIL AND GAS EXECUTIVE IN A DEEPLY EXECUTIVE IN A DEEPLY CONSERVATIVE SUBURBAN RIDING.
00:18:54CONSERVATIVE SUBURBAN RIDING. WELL, AARTI, ALBERTA POLITICS
00:18:56WELL, AARTI, ALBERTA POLITICS DOES NOT DO BORING THESE DAYS.
00:18:58DOES NOT DO BORING THESE DAYS. THE UCP WON IT LAST ELECTION BY THE UCP WON IT LAST ELECTION BY 14 POINTS.
00:19:0214 POINTS. THE N.D.P. FLIPPED IT. THE N.D.P. FLIPPED IT. IT'S HARD NOT TO SEE THIS
00:19:05IT'S HARD NOT TO SEE THIS THROUGH THE PRISM OF THIS THROUGH THE PRISM OF THIS REFERENDUM ALBERTA'S HAVING ON
00:19:08REFERENDUM ALBERTA'S HAVING ON WHETHER TO STAY IN CANADA OR
00:19:11WHETHER TO STAY IN CANADA OR HOLD ANOTHER REFERENDUM TO LEAVE
00:19:13HOLD ANOTHER REFERENDUM TO LEAVE CANADA ON OCTOBER 19, JUST FIVE
00:19:16CANADA ON OCTOBER 19, JUST FIVE WEEKS AWAY.
00:19:18WEEKS AWAY. BUT DANIELLE SMITH, THE U.C.P.
00:19:21BUT DANIELLE SMITH, THE U.C.P. SUPPORT STAYING IN CANADA, THEY
00:19:23SUPPORT STAYING IN CANADA, THEY SUPPORT THAT SIDE, BUT A LOT OF SUPPORT THAT SIDE, BUT A LOT OF VOTERS ARE BLAMING THE UNITED
00:19:27VOTERS ARE BLAMING THE UNITED CONSERVATIVES AND DANIELLE SMITH CONSERVATIVES AND DANIELLE SMITH FOR HOLDING THIS REFERENDUM.
00:19:30FOR HOLDING THIS REFERENDUM. CALGARY BROADLY DOES NOT WANT TO CALGARY BROADLY DOES NOT WANT TO SEPARATE, AND THEY ARE SAYING
00:19:34SEPARATE, AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT TO DANIELLE SMITH THAT THIS THAT TO DANIELLE SMITH THAT THIS IS APPARENTLY SEEMS TO BE A
00:19:37IS APPARENTLY SEEMS TO BE A MESSAGE THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED MESSAGE THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THIS.
00:19:40WITH THIS. IN-BETWEEN THE ORANGE N.D.P. IN-BETWEEN THE ORANGE N.D.P. SIGNS AND BLUE CONSERVATIVE
00:19:43SIGNS AND BLUE CONSERVATIVE SIGNS ON LAWNS IN CALGARY SHAW
00:19:45SIGNS ON LAWNS IN CALGARY SHAW THIS RIDING YOU SAW A LOT OF RED
00:19:48THIS RIDING YOU SAW A LOT OF RED SIGNS FOR THE FOREVER CANADIAN, SIGNS FOR THE FOREVER CANADIAN, THE STAY IN CANADA SIGN.
00:19:51THE STAY IN CANADA SIGN. A LOT OF THOSE WERE ON MORE A LOT OF THOSE WERE ON MORE N.D.P.-FRIENDLY LAWNS, PEOPLE
00:19:54N.D.P.-FRIENDLY LAWNS, PEOPLE SEEMING TO WANT TO SEND A SEEMING TO WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE.
00:19:57MESSAGE. THE N.D.P. LEADER, NAHEED THE N.D.P. LEADER, NAHEED NENSHI, THE FORMER MAYOR OF NENSHI, THE FORMER MAYOR OF CALGARY, THIS IS A BIG TEST FOR
00:20:01CALGARY, THIS IS A BIG TEST FOR HIM AS WELL. HIM AS WELL. HE SEEMED TO BE SURPRISED BY
00:20:05THESE RESULTS. LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAID TO VOTERS LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAID TO VOTERS LATE LAST NIGHT.
00:20:08LATE LAST NIGHT. >> THIS IS AN EARTHQUAKE!
00:20:15>> THIS IS AN EARTHQUAKE! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:20:16[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THIS MEANS, THIS MEANS THAT 35
00:20:19THIS MEANS, THIS MEANS THAT 35 DAYS FROM TODAY WE SEND DANIELLE
00:20:21DAYS FROM TODAY WE SEND DANIELLE SMITH AND HER SEPARATIST PALS
00:20:24SMITH AND HER SEPARATIST PALS PACKING!
00:20:25PACKING! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:20:32[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] AND WITHIN A YEAR FROM NOW, WE
00:20:35AND WITHIN A YEAR FROM NOW, WE GIVE ALBERTANS THE N.D.P. GIVE ALBERTANS THE N.D.P. GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE.
00:20:38GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
00:20:42[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> Reporter: WELL, THAT >> Reporter: WELL, THAT FIVE-WEEK MARK, IT SEEMS THAT
00:20:45FIVE-WEEK MARK, IT SEEMS THAT POLLS ARE SHOWING A BIG WIN FOR POLLS ARE SHOWING A BIG WIN FOR THE STAY SIDE, BUT ONE YEAR FROM
00:20:48THE STAY SIDE, BUT ONE YEAR FROM NOW, THAT'S A LOT TO ASK. NOW, THAT'S A LOT TO ASK. A LOT CAN CHANGE IN ALBERTA
00:20:51A LOT CAN CHANGE IN ALBERTA POLITICS IN ONE YEAR. POLITICS IN ONE YEAR. WE'VE SEEN BY-ELECTIONS BEFORE.
00:20:54WE'VE SEEN BY-ELECTIONS BEFORE. OF COURSE, THIS IS ONLY ONE OUT OF COURSE, THIS IS ONLY ONE OUT OF 87 RIDINGS. OF 87 RIDINGS. WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ONE YEAR
00:20:58WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ONE YEAR OUT OF A BY-ELECTION, A BIG OUT OF A BY-ELECTION, A BIG MESSAGE SEEMINGLY SENT TO THE
00:21:01MESSAGE SEEMINGLY SENT TO THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THEN THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THEN THE GOVERNMENT STAYING IN POWER.
00:21:03GOVERNMENT STAYING IN POWER. SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY THAT SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO
00:21:06THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO FORETELL WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, FORETELL WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THIS DOES, ACCORDING TO A
00:21:09BUT THIS DOES, ACCORDING TO A LOT OF OBSERVERS, SEND A CLEAR LOT OF OBSERVERS, SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO DANIELLE SMITH ON HOW
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00:24:01>> WE'VE HEARD REPEATED WARNINGS THIS MONTH THAT AI INVESTMENT IS
00:24:04THIS MONTH THAT AI INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING SO FAST THAT THERE IS
00:24:06HAPPENING SO FAST THAT THERE IS A RISK IT COULD WIPE OUT
00:24:09A RISK IT COULD WIPE OUT HUMIDITY WARM FRONT DECADE. HUMIDITY WARM FRONT DECADE. ONE OF THE COFOUNDERS OF THE AI
00:24:13ONE OF THE COFOUNDERS OF THE AI GIANT IS CALLING FOR MANDATORY GIANT IS CALLING FOR MANDATORY KILL SWITCHES.
00:24:16KILL SWITCHES. JACK COLLAR EXPANDING THE JACK COLLAR EXPANDING THE POTENTIAL DANGER TO THE BBC.
00:24:20POTENTIAL DANGER TO THE BBC. >> THE BASIC RISK IS HOW WELL DO >> THE BASIC RISK IS HOW WELL DO YOU SEE YOUR CHANCES AT BEING
00:24:23YOU SEE YOUR CHANCES AT BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE RISKS
00:24:25ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE RISKS AFTER SYSTEM THAT IS 100 TIMES
00:24:28AFTER SYSTEM THAT IS 100 TIMES FASTER THAN THE A SMALLEST PLAN. FASTER THAN THE A SMALLEST PLAN. I THINK THAT YOUR CHANCE OF
00:24:31I THINK THAT YOUR CHANCE OF DEALING WITH THAT AND GETTING
00:24:33DEALING WITH THAT AND GETTING OUT IN A SAFE WAY IS PRETTY LOW.
00:24:35OUT IN A SAFE WAY IS PRETTY LOW. SO HIGH LEVEL, YOU NEED TO SO HIGH LEVEL, YOU NEED TO CONTROL AI TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE
00:24:39CONTROL AI TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING THINGS THAT MIGHT
00:24:42YOU ARE MAKING THINGS THAT MIGHT BE SMARTER THAN PEOPLE. BE SMARTER THAN PEOPLE. THINGS THAT ARE SMARTER THAN THINGS THAT ARE SMARTER THAN PEOPLE COULD BE REALLY, REALLY,
00:24:46PEOPLE COULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS. REALLY DANGEROUS. >> THE BACKLASH IS ACTUALLY >> THE BACKLASH IS ACTUALLY BRINGING TOGETHER TWO UNLIKELY
00:24:50BRINGING TOGETHER TWO UNLIKELY BED FELLOWS. BED FELLOWS. U.S. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS AND
00:24:53U.S. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS AND CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST AND FORMER CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST AND FORMER TRUMP OPERATIVE STEVE BANNON.
00:24:56TRUMP OPERATIVE STEVE BANNON. THEY ARE SET TO SHARE THE STAGE
00:24:59THEY ARE SET TO SHARE THE STAGE AND IN AN EVENT IN WASHINGTON AND IN AN EVENT IN WASHINGTON TODAY, CALLING FOR CONGRESS TO
00:25:02TODAY, CALLING FOR CONGRESS TO WORK FASTER TO CURRENT IMPACT OF WORK FASTER TO CURRENT IMPACT OF AI.
00:25:06AI. TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, FRANCIS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, FRANCIS SYMS ASSOCIATE DEAN OF
00:25:09SYMS ASSOCIATE DEAN OF INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY AT HUMBER
00:25:12TECHNOLOGY AT HUMBER POLYTECHNIQUE JOINS US NOW. POLYTECHNIQUE JOINS US NOW. FRANCIS GOOD, MORNING TO YOU.
00:25:14FRANCIS GOOD, MORNING TO YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID. >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID. >> THE ASSERTION HERE IS THAT AI
00:25:17>> THE ASSERTION HERE IS THAT AI IS HAPPENING -- THE INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING -- THE INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING SO FAST THAT IT
00:25:20IS HAPPENING SO FAST THAT IT WILL AT SOME POINT GET WILL AT SOME POINT GET UNCONTROLLABLE, THAT IT MAY GO
00:25:23UNCONTROLLABLE, THAT IT MAY GO ROGUE, AND THEREFORE COULD
00:25:27THREATEN HUMANITY IN SOME FASHION. FASHION. HOW IS IT THAT THE COMPANIES HOW IS IT THAT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE DEVELOPING IT
00:25:30THAT ARE DEVELOPING IT THEMSELVES CAN'T BUILDING IS IN THEMSELVES CAN'T BUILDING IS IN NOW TO DEAL WITH THAT?
00:25:33NOW TO DEAL WITH THAT? >> YEAH, SO THERE'S THIS CULTURE >> YEAH, SO THERE'S THIS CULTURE WITHIN THESE COMPANIES, THEY
00:25:37WITHIN THESE COMPANIES, THEY REFER TO IT AS MODEL FATIGUE,
00:25:41REFER TO IT AS MODEL FATIGUE, WHERE THERE'S THIS HYPOTHETICAL WHERE THERE'S THIS HYPOTHETICAL RACE AGAINST LIKELY CHINA AND
00:25:45RACE AGAINST LIKELY CHINA AND OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, TO BUILDA THE FASTEST AND
00:25:48WORLD, TO BUILDA THE FASTEST AND MOST CAPABLE MODEL FIRST. MOST CAPABLE MODEL FIRST. BECAUSE THOSE THAT BUILD IT
00:25:52BECAUSE THOSE THAT BUILD IT FIRST WILL BE THE ONES THAT FIRST WILL BE THE ONES THAT BRING THE GREATEST RETURNS TO
00:25:55BRING THE GREATEST RETURNS TO THE INVESTORS.
00:25:58WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE MARKET COMPANIES THAT ARE ARE MARKET COMPANIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON PROFITS FOR THEIR
00:26:02FOCUSED ON PROFITS FOR THEIR INVESTORS. INVESTORS. SO THEY MIGHT HAVE ULTIMATE
00:26:05SO THEY MIGHT HAVE ULTIMATE TRUISTIC GOALS, BUT NUMBER ONE, TRUISTIC GOALS, BUT NUMBER ONE, THEY WANT TO WIN THE AI RACE.
00:26:08THEY WANT TO WIN THE AI RACE. AND SO PART OF THAT MEANS THAT
00:26:10AND SO PART OF THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO RELEASE MODEL AFTER
00:26:13THEY HAVE TO RELEASE MODEL AFTER MODEL VERY QUICKLY, AND MODEL VERY QUICKLY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS
00:26:17UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS WE SACRIFICE THINGS SOMETIMES IS WE SACRIFICE THINGS LIKE QUALITY CONTROL AND
00:26:20LIKE QUALITY CONTROL AND TESTING. TESTING. >> THE CHALLENGE, AS YOU SAY,
00:26:23>> THE CHALLENGE, AS YOU SAY, THERE IS A RACE AGAINST CHINA THERE IS A RACE AGAINST CHINA WHICH HAS MOTTE QUITE THE
00:26:26WHICH HAS MOTTE QUITE THE FRONTIER MODELS BUT VERY CLOSE FRONTIER MODELS BUT VERY CLOSE TO THE FRONTIER MODELS AT A
00:26:30TO THE FRONTIER MODELS AT A FRACTION OF THE PRICE. FRACTION OF THE PRICE. TRUMP REJECTING CALLS FOR ANY
00:26:34TRUMP REJECTING CALLS FOR ANY KIND OF REGULATION.
00:26:35KIND OF REGULATION. HE CALLS THEM A HOAX.
00:26:38HE CALLS THEM A HOAX. AND HE IS CLAIMING THAT THE ONLY
00:26:41AND HE IS CLAIMING THAT THE ONLY THING THAT -- THAT IT SHOULD BE
00:26:43THING THAT -- THAT IT SHOULD BE TOUTED IS -- IS WHOEVER WINS AI
00:26:46TOUTED IS -- IS WHOEVER WINS AI WINS IN THE RACE OVER CHINA.
00:26:50WINS IN THE RACE OVER CHINA. I WONDER WHERE YOUR SENSE IS ON I WONDER WHERE YOUR SENSE IS ON WHETHER THERE IS EVEN THE
00:26:54WHETHER THERE IS EVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF REGULATION. POSSIBILITY OF REGULATION. >> YEAH.
00:26:57>> YEAH. I 100% THINK THERE IS. I 100% THINK THERE IS. I THINK THE RACE IS REALLY
00:27:01I THINK THE RACE IS REALLY TOWARDS TRUSTWORTHY AND TOWARDS TRUSTWORTHY AND ETHICALLY RESPONSIBLE AI.
00:27:04ETHICALLY RESPONSIBLE AI. AND, YOU KNOW, I AM HERE IN AND, YOU KNOW, I AM HERE IN VIENNA AT THE U.N. ATOMIC ENERGY
00:27:08VIENNA AT THE U.N. ATOMIC ENERGY CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, AND THAT'S CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FOCUS SON
00:27:11WHERE THE FOCUS SON TRANSFORMATIVE TECHNOLOGY AND TRANSFORMATIVE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW IT CAN BENEFIT PEOPLE, AND
00:27:14HOW IT CAN BENEFIT PEOPLE, AND WE PROTECT AGAINST THE HARMS. WE PROTECT AGAINST THE HARMS. SO THE WORLD HAS DONE IT BEFORE.
00:27:18SO THE WORLD HAS DONE IT BEFORE. BUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS TAKE
00:27:20BUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS TAKE THAT TECHNOLOGY OUT OF THE THAT TECHNOLOGY OUT OF THE COMPANIES AND MAKE SURE THAT IT
00:27:23COMPANIES AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IN THE HANDS OF THE WAS IN THE HANDS OF THE DEMOCRACIES AND THE COUNTRIES DEMOCRACIES AND THE COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.
00:27:27AROUND THE WORLD. AND THE PROBLEM HERE, AND, YOU
00:27:31AND THE PROBLEM HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, ADEN GOMAZ WHO IS THE
00:27:33KNOW, ADEN GOMAZ WHO IS THE FOUNDER OUT OF TORONTO SAID THAT FOUNDER OUT OF TORONTO SAID THAT THE WHERE OF THE SILICON VALLEY,
00:27:36THE WHERE OF THE SILICON VALLEY, AND YOU CAN READ THIS ON HIS
00:27:39AND YOU CAN READ THIS ON HIS BLOCK IS IT CAN LEAD TO CARTEL BLOCK IS IT CAN LEAD TO CARTEL BEHAVIOUR BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS
00:27:43BEHAVIOUR BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A SMALL GROUP OF COMPANIES IT'S A SMALL GROUP OF COMPANIES OUT OF SILICON VALLEY THAT ARE
00:27:46OUT OF SILICON VALLEY THAT ARE DICTATING THE RULES OF THIS DICTATING THE RULES OF THIS GAME, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR
00:27:49GAME, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.
00:27:53THE REST OF THE WORLD. >> THE AVERAGE MAJOR U.S. SENATE >> THE AVERAGE MAJOR U.S. SENATE IS I THINK 66 RIGHT NOW.
00:27:55IS I THINK 66 RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEARINGS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEARINGS, THE VERY FEW HEARINGS THEY'VE
00:27:58THE VERY FEW HEARINGS THEY'VE HAD ABOUT AI, IT HASN'T ALWAYS
00:28:01HAD ABOUT AI, IT HASN'T ALWAYS SEEMED LIKE SENATORS EVEN SEEMED LIKE SENATORS EVEN UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY.
00:28:05UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY. WHAT IS THE PROSPECT THAT THEY
00:28:08WHAT IS THE PROSPECT THAT THEY COULD REGULATE AT ALL?
00:28:11COULD REGULATE AT ALL? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. WELL, I THINK THERE'S NOW TWO --
00:28:14WELL, I THINK THERE'S NOW TWO -- TWO BUILDS OR ACTS THAT THEY ARE TWO BUILDS OR ACTS THAT THEY ARE BEING INTRODUCED OR STARTING TO
00:28:18BEING INTRODUCED OR STARTING TO GET DISCUSSED. GET DISCUSSED. ONE IS THE AI KILL SWITCH ACT,
00:28:21ONE IS THE AI KILL SWITCH ACT, AND THE FOCUS OF THAT IS MAKING
00:28:23AND THE FOCUS OF THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S AN OFF BUTTONS
00:28:26SURE THAT THERE'S AN OFF BUTTONS SO IF AIG DOES GET TO THE POINT SO IF AIG DOES GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL YOU
00:28:29WHERE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL YOU CAN PULL THE PLUG. CAN PULL THE PLUG. AND THE SECOND ONE THAT'S BEING
00:28:32AND THE SECOND ONE THAT'S BEING INTRODUCED BY SANDERS, AND INTRODUCED BY SANDERS, AND SANDERS IS NOT A YOUNG FELLOW
00:28:35SANDERS IS NOT A YOUNG FELLOW HIMSELF IS FOCUSED ON BANNING HIMSELF IS FOCUSED ON BANNING SUPER INTELLIGENCE AND PAUSING
00:28:38SUPER INTELLIGENCE AND PAUSING DEVELOPMENT OF ADVANCED AI UNTIL DEVELOPMENT OF ADVANCED AI UNTIL REGULATIONS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE.
00:28:42REGULATIONS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE. AND SO I'M ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW,
00:28:45AND SO I'M ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW, BANNON AND SANDERS AND THERE'S BANNON AND SANDERS AND THERE'S MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AS WELL, BUT
00:28:48MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AS WELL, BUT IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR MINDS WRAPPED AROUND, IT RIGHT,
00:28:51MINDS WRAPPED AROUND, IT RIGHT, AND THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER, AND THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE AND
00:28:55THEY CAN COMMUNICATE AND TRANSLATE THAT FOR THEIR PEERS. TRANSLATE THAT FOR THEIR PEERS. SO I'M HOPEFUL TO SEE AND THEY
00:28:59SO I'M HOPEFUL TO SEE AND THEY ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE AISLE.
00:29:02AISLE. THE TWO OF THEM COMING TOGETHER THE TWO OF THEM COMING TOGETHER WHICH MEANS ULTIMATELY WHAT DOES
00:29:05WHICH MEANS ULTIMATELY WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE PEOPLE. THIS MEAN FOR THE PEOPLE. AI CANNOT BE CONTROLLED BY
00:29:07AI CANNOT BE CONTROLLED BY OLIGARCHS. OLIGARCHS. IT HAS TO BE DEMOCRATIC.
00:29:11IT HAS TO BE DEMOCRATIC. THERE HAVE TO BE SAFEGUARDS IN THERE HAVE TO BE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE AND THE BENEFITS NEED TO
00:29:13PLACE AND THE BENEFITS NEED TO COME TO ALL OF US. COME TO ALL OF US. >> BUT THAT KIND OF A CALL MAKES
00:29:16>> BUT THAT KIND OF A CALL MAKES PLACE IN A PLACE LIKE THE UNITED PLACE IN A PLACE LIKE THE UNITED STATES AND MAKES SENSE IN A STATES AND MAKES SENSE IN A PLACE LIKE CANADA.
00:29:20PLACE LIKE CANADA. IS CHINA GOING TO ABIDE BY ANY IS CHINA GOING TO ABIDE BY ANY OF THE SAME RULES?
00:29:23OF THE SAME RULES? >> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. >> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT TRUMP IS AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT TRUMP IS SAYING.
00:29:27SAYING. AND I THINK THE REAL FOCUS IS AND I THINK THE REAL FOCUS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF -- PART
00:29:30THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF -- PART OF WHAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE OF WHAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN SAYING IS THE FIRST ONE TO
00:29:33BEEN SAYING IS THE FIRST ONE TO REACH WHAT WE CALL SUPER REACH WHAT WE CALL SUPER INTELLIGENCE WHERE AI CAN DO
00:29:36INTELLIGENCE WHERE AI CAN DO EVERYTHING AS GOOD AS EVERYBODY EVERYTHING AS GOOD AS EVERYBODY OR EVEN BETTER IS THE ONE THAT'S
00:29:39OR EVEN BETTER IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO WIN EVERYTHING. GOING TO WIN EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S THE -- THAT'S WHAT
00:29:42AND THAT'S THE -- THAT'S WHAT THE SELLING POINT HAS BEEN WHEN THE SELLING POINT HAS BEEN WHEN THEY'VE BEEN ASKING INVESTORS TO
00:29:45THEY'VE BEEN ASKING INVESTORS TO INVEST. INVEST. AND SO THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW,
00:29:48AND SO THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW, PREPARATION TRUMP'S PERSPECTIVE, PREPARATION TRUMP'S PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD IMAGINE IS, THAT CHINA
00:29:51I WOULD IMAGINE IS, THAT CHINA WILL WIN THAT RACE AND WILL WIN WILL WIN THAT RACE AND WILL WIN THE ENTIRE MARKET.
00:29:53THE ENTIRE MARKET. CHINA IS VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED CHINA IS VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THESE COMPANIES, WHERE IN
00:29:57WITH THESE COMPANIES, WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES IT'S A BIT THE UNITED STATES IT'S A BIT SEPARATE. SEPARATE. YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU
00:30:00YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAVE BIG TECH. HAVE BIG TECH. BUT IN CHINA IT'S MORE LINKED BUT IN CHINA IT'S MORE LINKED TOGETHER.
00:30:04TOGETHER. SO I THINK UNLESS THERE'S AN SO I THINK UNLESS THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND
00:30:07INTERNATIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BETWEEN COUNTRIES, IT'S THIS BETWEEN COUNTRIES, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THE DECISIONS
00:30:10VERY UNLIKELY THAT THE DECISIONS IN SILICON VALLEY THAT THEY MAKE IN SILICON VALLEY THAT THEY MAKE ARE GOING TO STOP CHINA.
00:30:13ARE GOING TO STOP CHINA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE THINGS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE COMING TO LIGHT NOW BECAUSE ARE COMING TO LIGHT NOW BECAUSE CHINA HAS CAUGHT UP.
00:30:17CHINA HAS CAUGHT UP. NO LONGER IS U.S. REALLY NO LONGER IS U.S. REALLY DOMINANT. DOMINANT. THESE FRONTIER AI SOLUTIONS ARE
00:30:20THESE FRONTIER AI SOLUTIONS ARE NOT THE FASTEST, BEST SOLUTIONS NOT THE FASTEST, BEST SOLUTIONS IN THE WORLD ANYMORE AND I THINK
00:30:23IN THE WORLD ANYMORE AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT
00:40:39They say they really want to end this war. I think they want
00:40:42to end the war. So they want to end it in a way that would
00:40:45satisfy you or satisfy Russia. They want to end the war,
00:40:49which satisfied
00:40:53sometimes taking a beat to think of how to answer a
00:40:56question is a type of answer all on its own. President
00:41:00Vladimir Zelensky is very careful with his words right
00:41:04now. Very careful
00:41:06his last day of his brief trip to Canada,
00:41:08after meeting with fighter pilots training in North Bay,
00:41:12he sat down to talk at a hangar at a private terminal just
00:41:15before heading back to Ukraine. Safety, speed, top of mind.
00:41:20Many people in the world were pretty worried a few days ago
00:41:24when the Moldovan government said that a Russian drone had
00:41:28strayed into its airspace and and got close enough that they
00:41:33delayed your flight. At what point did you realize what was
00:41:37happening? I mean, this is not the first time when
00:41:40Russia wants to attack or the idea to attack or to pressure
00:41:45using such instruments. It's not the first time. So I'm not
00:41:49surprised. Moldova,
00:41:50the government was surprised, but Russia uses drones. It's a
00:41:55pity that they can use the drones and not only in Moldova.
00:41:59They used, by the way, this day in in Romania,
00:42:03which is very close to Moldova. It's not only just hunting on
00:42:07me or on somebody else like it was in Germany some days ago.
00:42:12And it's very simple to show such power when nobody answered.
00:42:16You always have to answer on any kind of Russian provocation,
00:42:21maybe some with soft using soft power, I mean this,
00:42:24but you have to react. Otherwise they will go further.
00:42:28Well, the CIA has certainly suggested
00:42:30that that Russia wants to push it with NATO countries. Is that
00:42:34what you're intelligence agencies are saying? Yes,
00:42:37of course they will do it, definitely. So how,
00:42:40what sort of response do you think there should be to the
00:42:44Romania, to Germany, to Moldova, to me? First of all,
00:42:47destroy any kind of the instruments which are on theirs
00:42:51or in
00:42:52no other way without any kind of words,
00:42:55just to destroy and then to speak. And this is in dialogue,
00:42:59the way of dialogue. Russia respects. To his point,
00:43:03just over 24 hours after this conversation,
00:43:06a Russian drone hit a Ukrainian train line just minutes after a
00:43:10train carrying diplomats, including former British Prime
00:43:14Minister Boris Johnson, had crossed into Poland. How do
00:43:18you make peace in this environment? You don't,
00:43:21he insists.
00:43:23Not without the United States. You're still pushing for the
00:43:26Americans to to put more sanctions. Yes,
00:43:28of course. And any, any traction there,
00:43:31yes, you just say, I think that they have to do it
00:43:35first of all, not even because of us,
00:43:37but because of respect of such American people who supported
00:43:42Ukraine, supported democracy from the
00:43:45very beginning of the invasion. Are they listening to you in
00:43:49the United States? Yeah, yes, of course,
00:43:52we are in dialogue and we have conversations and they do
00:43:56different things. But with sanctions,
00:43:59I think that they they should be
00:44:01most strongly destroy any capabilities of Russia. I mean,
00:44:05they can close a lot of different things. And of course,
00:44:08if they want to, if they want to,
00:44:11they have to. I mean, if you are United States
00:44:14and you are a great example for the world,
00:44:17do you always say about that this is the the,
00:44:20the way of life They demonstrate this is the example
00:44:24of democracy and they are great power. Of course,
00:44:28if you had security guarantees, would you be prepared to accept
00:44:32a situation where Ukraine holds what it has and you and Russia
00:44:37holds what it has taken? If if everyone were to stop and
00:44:41you guys meant to free the conflict, it's meant that
00:44:45to stop on the battlefield, to stop on the contact line and
00:44:49move all this situation to our diplomacy,
00:44:52to the diplomacy by the partners by mediation of some
00:44:56foreigners. Yes, we are ready for this. We said
00:45:00about it. If the Russians are Russians are ready for
00:45:04ceasefire, Yes, without conditions,
00:45:06just she's far and speak. If they will not love something,
00:45:11I mean it's in some period of time, OK. If they want
00:45:15is to fight, OK in some period of time,
00:45:18it's up to them. But it's a bad idea. Better idea without
00:45:22losses, stop the war, move to diplomacy. So Steve
00:45:26Witkoff, Jared Kushner, they go to Keith,
00:45:29we watch them. Jared Kushner talks about a win win for
00:45:33Russia and Ukraine.
00:45:36Watched your body language there. What did it feel like
00:45:39when he said he's looking for a win?
00:45:41Win for Russia and Ukraine
00:45:46between us? Be honest. There is no win win
00:45:49in this war.
00:45:51It can't be so because so many human losses,
00:45:56it stopped me win, win at the first day of this
00:46:00war. The most important victory for for everybody. It's not for
00:46:05Ukraine and Russia. It's for, for everybody,
00:46:09for the world. It's a ***** to stop this war. And this is a
00:46:13victory for a human lives. So what did Jared Kushner say when
00:46:18you said to him there's no win, win?
00:46:22It's normal that we we have a little bit different view on it.
00:46:27We have a lot of things which they began to understand. I'm
00:46:31happy that they came to Kiev after six or seven times
00:46:36they've been in Moscow. And I think this is important. They
00:46:41had to demonstrate this respect to our people and they did it.
00:46:46They asked us not to go to media with some of these points
00:46:50to discuss more details and to react on their ideas. Yeah,
00:46:54so we will do it. And we we are preparing for the meeting with
00:46:58President Trump in New York. That meeting is expected at the
00:47:02end of September. But consider these comments from Jared
00:47:05Kushner aired after our interview suggesting territory
00:47:08is the sticking point. President Putin laid out his
00:47:11line of what he wants to achieve. If Ukraine, you know,
00:47:14wanted to withdraw to that line, then obviously, you know,
00:47:18we have the rest of the deal set up and put together. A
00:47:21Ukraine right now does not want to do that.
00:47:24This may help explain why Zelinsky worries that for the
00:47:28US, Ukraine's needs are not the
00:47:30priority. The problem is that we have to change
00:47:34Putin's mind.
00:47:36He has the biggest territory in the world and you need,
00:47:42I don't know, some kilometres so forward.
00:47:44This is the answer. That's why it's very strange when some
00:47:48partners say, look, he needs just this part of
00:47:52Ukraine, just this kilometers and that's
00:47:54all. No, it's crazy idea. No, he doesn't need kilometers. He
00:47:59needs Ukraine. He needs Ukraine be a part of Russia. How do you
00:48:03feel about sitting across from him and talking normal for me,
00:48:07I mean, I would it take to happen? No it's not
00:48:11Wish. It's not the best day for my life,
00:48:15better to sit with my family. It's 100% yes I because he's an
00:48:20enemy, of course. What does it mean to
00:48:23sit with an enemy? For, for the result, For, for,
00:48:27for the result which can bring us closer to the peace. Because
00:48:32I know real his goal. I know that this person want to occupy
00:48:36totally us and he will if we will not be so strong
00:48:41and if the world will be tight or if I will not have security
00:48:45guarantees. What does it mean? Security guarantees?
00:48:49I have not to be afraid that tomorrow he will occupy us
00:48:52because he will not change his goal. Never. He will not change
00:48:57his goal. Do you feel like you can trust Jared Kushner and
00:49:01Steve Witkoff to understand what you're saying and and
00:49:05reflect Ukraine's needs and and move negotiations to a place
00:49:09where they need to be? Do do you have
00:49:11confidence that they will do that?
00:49:14Cause you said 6 how many times to Russia wants to keep Hmm.
00:49:18Yeah, because it's, you know, how, how to say it's,
00:49:24I think mostly it's a mistake of people. They,
00:49:27they always want, you know how to say it,
00:49:30be closer to, to, to people with a great power
00:49:34who are in the power. So two years, 40 years, 5100 years,
00:49:38yes, he is almost dead, but he's in power. And for some
00:49:42people it's, you know, it's huge. It's not about Jared
00:49:46or Steve between us. It's about a lot of Americans,
00:49:50a lot of Europeans, a lot of people who want to
00:49:54just to have a dialogue with Putin because he's the richest
00:49:59and the most strongest. But we wanted to have independent
00:50:03country. We have it. So we have to trust each other,
00:50:07Ukraine and Americans, and America has to defend
00:50:11democracies
00:50:13if the democracy is asking. It's about the world,
00:50:17it's about the normal rules. It's like 1 people. Some big
00:50:22nation has to defend small nations. I know what you're
00:50:27saying, but it sure doesn't feel like
00:50:30they want to. He knows.
00:50:33They say I'm in the Jordan still. They said that they
00:50:37really want to end this war. I think they want to end the war,
00:50:41yes. It's not.
00:50:44Do they want to end it in a way that would satisfy you or
00:50:46satisfy Russia?
00:50:49They want to end the war which satisfied
00:50:55today's United States to end as quick as possible. But we all
00:51:00want to end as quick as possible, but not just,
00:51:03you know, so that that we should pay for
00:51:06this only one side. You're here in Canada,
00:51:10you just signed a 100 year deal. Why a 100 year deal?
00:51:14It's not about years. It's more about roads. It's about
00:51:18national security, It's strategic partnership,
00:51:22it's about our nations
00:51:24at a lot of people, millions of Ukrainians live in
00:51:29Canada and they came by the way, 100 years ago. And it's so it's
00:51:34very symbolic. It, it says that
00:51:38we will be together for a long period of time,
00:51:41our children and our grandchildren. We will work
00:51:45together, we will share the experience of
00:51:48security, a lot of different things. It's
00:51:51about also energy, about energy security,
00:51:54about food security, about everything. You Craine
00:51:58has such document of strategic partnership with UK in Europe.
00:52:02We have such one in this part of the world. We didn't have
00:52:07this, the first one.
00:52:09I'm curious about your perspective because Canada is
00:52:12an ally, certainly the United States is
00:52:14an ally. You you need, you probably need more from
00:52:16from both countries, but you're arriving at a time
00:52:19when the relationship between the two countries is strained.
00:52:22You know that there's a perception that U.S. President
00:52:25is trying to break this country economically,
00:52:27The 51st state stuff. What is it like to watch that from afar?
00:52:32Ah, strange,
00:52:36because I think that it's very dangerous that there are some
00:52:40problems between neighbors
00:52:43and we, we, we are the example, you know,
00:52:46in action when people know each other,
00:52:49when they think that they are friends for all the period of
00:52:53time, for all the time, because they're neighbors,
00:52:56they have to secure their borders. They have to be
00:53:00strategic partners against anybody. From one side they
00:53:04have friends, but from other side they can be
00:53:07unanimous, unanimous like in our situation
00:53:10with Russia. So that's why I think that the United States
00:53:14in Canada
00:53:16will have
00:53:18and and have and will have dialogue of from I mean this
00:53:22very constructive that they have to have it. It's very
00:53:26dangerous. No choice. Yeah. At what point do you worry though
00:53:30that with, you know that relationship
00:53:33strained with what's happening in Iran that Ukraine slips from
00:53:37mind as a concern about decreasing support. So this is
00:53:41really big problem and of course we need all time to
00:53:45focus on it to
00:53:46how America say, make a deal for us is to stop
00:53:50the war. And of course the situation in our museums and
00:53:54the Iranian and the Middle East, all these challenges of course
00:53:59take out a big package of support. So because of the war
00:54:03we are not we are not the priority
00:54:07for air defence. So Middle East is a priority. All the last
00:54:11year we've been strong on the battlefield and we made huge
00:54:16problems for Russia. But we that the package of anti
00:54:20ballistic missiles was decreased
00:54:23and people are dying.
00:54:25People are dying because you you can't you can't destroy
00:54:28everything. You Ukraine has been definitely hitting deeper
00:54:31into Russia. Russia has been hitting more ballistic missiles.
00:54:35And you know, we watched the battle lines
00:54:37from afar. Some of us here have have been to some of the front
00:54:40lines who were very interested in what's happening. There is
00:54:44an exchange, you know, Whole territory is held and
00:54:46then it is lost.
00:54:49It can't go on forever. You, you can't hang on like this
00:54:52forever. No, of course not. It can. Depends
00:54:54on the will of one person.
00:54:57It's something strange that there is no enough power
00:55:02of Europe, United States, Canada,
00:55:04everybody. Not enough power to stop one person,
00:55:07one man who is incremental. Russia is his preoccupation,
00:55:11of course, but perhaps not his only
00:55:14problem. There have been protests in Ukraine calling for
00:55:17elections which have been suspended because of the war,
00:55:22and he's found himself at serious odds with his former
00:55:25defence minister.
00:55:27We know that you and your former defence minister were on
00:55:30the same page on how to prosecute the war against Russia
00:55:33and and now he's not there. He's calling for wartime
00:55:36elections. You don't seem to be on the same page. What happened?
00:55:40Hmm,
00:55:42I'm not sure that I will be able to,
00:55:45I mean this to explain it, because this salmon Tornel
00:55:50questions are now what happens during long war. A lot of
00:55:54things are happening. It my decision to change the minister
00:55:59and I changed the government, not the minister. I changed the
00:56:04government if I don't know how to,
00:56:06how to say it in English correctly. So
00:56:13if you want to win this war, it's meant to save your country.
00:56:17You can't focus on yourself,
00:56:20have to focus on your country and it's all about your steps
00:56:25moving towards and etcetera. You have to be ready that
00:56:29somebody will change you if it's according to your law. I
00:56:33mean, there's the country has to be
00:56:36one team, one team,
00:56:39excellent team or not excellent team,
00:56:42but one team. Do you have any doubts that Ukraine is one team
00:56:46now? Yes, of course we will want to. I
00:56:49mean, there's questions, million questions each day,
00:56:52including government, parliament and parliament.
00:56:55There are, you know, 100 teams, but
00:56:58when you need some very specific things,
00:57:02you have to be 1 team,
00:57:04You have to be the, the,
00:57:07our and our position, different parties,
00:57:10somebody supports, somebody doesn't support. And
00:57:14but not to make mistakes. 2 questions. Yeah,
00:57:17please. Are you going to be OK and is Ukraine going to be OK?
00:57:24I'm OK if your brain is gay. Yeah. But Ukraine will be OK.
00:57:28And you and I don't know. I don't know. It depends on many
00:57:32different things. Yeah. If we speak about security,
00:57:36I hope. Yes. I think I have strong bodyguards. But we will
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01:00:27WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU LIVE AS SOON AS IT GETS UNDERWAY.
01:00:29SOON AS IT GETS UNDERWAY. >>> MEANWHILE EARLIER TODAY >>> MEANWHILE EARLIER TODAY CURRENT PRIME MINISTER MARK
01:00:33CURRENT PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, CARNEY MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, ONE THAT COULD MEAN BIG CHANGES
01:00:36ONE THAT COULD MEAN BIG CHANGES FOR AIR TRAVELERS TO AND FROM FOR AIR TRAVELERS TO AND FROM CANADA.
01:00:39CANADA. HE SAYS HE WILL SEEK PRIVATE
01:00:42HE SAYS HE WILL SEEK PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO OPERATE THIS
01:00:45INVESTMENT TO OPERATE THIS COUNTRY'S FOUR LARGEST AND COUNTRY'S FOUR LARGEST AND BUSIEST AIRPORTS. BUSIEST AIRPORTS. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney:
01:00:49>> Prime Minister Mark Carney: WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DECADES OF WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DECADES OF INVESTMENTS AROUND THE WORLD
01:00:52INVESTMENTS AROUND THE WORLD NOT IN PRIVATIZING AIRPORTS BUT NOT IN PRIVATIZING AIRPORTS BUT ARRANGEMENTS WHERE PRIVATE
01:00:55ARRANGEMENTS WHERE PRIVATE OPERATORS COME IN TO MANAGE THE
01:00:57OPERATORS COME IN TO MANAGE THE AIRPORTS FOR A PERIOD OF AIRPORTS FOR A PERIOD OF DECADES.
01:01:01DECADES. THE UNDERLYING ASSETS, THE
01:01:03THE UNDERLYING ASSETS, THE UNDERLYING AIRPORT RETAINED BY UNDERLYING AIRPORT RETAINED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
01:01:06THE GOVERNMENT. OUR PENSION FUNDS OPERATE THESE OUR PENSION FUNDS OPERATE THESE CONCESSIONS AROUND THE WORLD
01:01:10CONCESSIONS AROUND THE WORLD FROM HEATHROW TO A SERIES IN
01:01:14FROM HEATHROW TO A SERIES IN ASIA AIRPORTS, OKAY, AND THEY
01:01:16ASIA AIRPORTS, OKAY, AND THEY HAVE THAT EXPERTISE AND WE'RE
01:01:18HAVE THAT EXPERTISE AND WE'RE BRINGING THAT EXPERTISE BACK
01:01:22BRINGING THAT EXPERTISE BACK HOME. HOME. >> Andrew: THE CBCs KARINA >> Andrew: THE CBCs KARINA ROMAN IS AT THE INVESTMENT
01:01:26ROMAN IS AT THE INVESTMENT SUMMIT IN TORONTO AND HAS MORE
01:01:28SUMMIT IN TORONTO AND HAS MORE ON THE NEWS OF MOVING AIRPORTS
01:01:31ON THE NEWS OF MOVING AIRPORTS TOWARDS PRIVATE INVESTMENT. TOWARDS PRIVATE INVESTMENT. >> Reporter: AND THAT'S WHAT
01:01:34>> Reporter: AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT.
01:01:35THEY'RE CALLING IT. IT'S OPERATION INVESTMENT IN
01:01:42IT'S OPERATION INVESTMENT IN THE FOUR LARGEST AIRPORTS IN THE FOUR LARGEST AIRPORTS IN CANADA, SO NOT FULL
01:01:45CANADA, SO NOT FULL PRIVATIZATION, EVEN THOUGH THE PRIVATIZATION, EVEN THOUGH THE REACTION, THE NEGATIVE REACTION
01:01:48REACTION, THE NEGATIVE REACTION WE'VE HAD IS FROM OPPOSITION
01:01:49WE'VE HAD IS FROM OPPOSITION LEADERS SAYING OH,
01:01:57LEADERS SAYING OH, PRIVATIZATION WOULD BE AWFUL.
01:01:58PRIVATIZATION WOULD BE AWFUL. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING
01:02:02THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
01:02:03ABOUT. VANCOUVER, TORONTO, MONTREAL,
01:02:15VANCOUVER, TORONTO, MONTREAL, AND EDMONTON
01:02:16AND EDMONTON AND CALGARY, THOSE LOCATIONS
01:02:21AND CALGARY, THOSE LOCATIONS WOULD BE GIVEN AN INVESTMENT
01:02:24WOULD BE GIVEN AN INVESTMENT WHERE IF WE'RE MOVING TO A
01:02:28WHERE IF WE'RE MOVING TO A PROFIT MODEL THE INVESTORS GET
01:02:30PROFIT MODEL THE INVESTORS GET THE PROFIT OVER 15 TO 30 YEARS. THE PROFIT OVER 15 TO 30 YEARS. THE GOVERNMENT WOULD RETAIN
01:02:34THE GOVERNMENT WOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF LAND AND THE
01:02:38OWNERSHIP OF LAND AND THE ASSETS. ASSETS. OF COURSE THIS IS NOT WHAT
01:02:41OF COURSE THIS IS NOT WHAT PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS HAVE
01:02:43PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS HAVE SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT UP BUT
01:02:45SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT UP BUT THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF PRIVATIZING CANADA'S AIRPORTS
01:02:49PRIVATIZING CANADA'S AIRPORTS IN THE PAST.
01:02:51IN THE PAST. A LOT OF TALK BUT THEY DIDN'TS
01:02:56A LOT OF TALK BUT THEY DIDN'TS GO ANYWHERE WITH THESE IDEAS.
01:03:00GO ANYWHERE WITH THESE IDEAS. THAT SET -- BUT THEY DIDN'T GO
01:03:03THAT SET -- BUT THEY DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE WITH THESE IDEAS.
01:03:08ANYWHERE WITH THESE IDEAS. THAT SET THE STAGE BUT A
01:03:14THAT SET THE STAGE BUT A DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT RAISED A
01:03:18DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT RAISED A DIFFERENT POSSIBILITY. DIFFERENT POSSIBILITY. >> Prime Minister Mark Carney:
01:03:21>> Prime Minister Mark Carney: THIS IS A DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT THIS IS A DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT AND WE ARE LIVING IN DIFFERENT AND WE ARE LIVING IN DIFFERENT TIMES.
01:03:25TIMES. I COULD TAKE THE REST OF THE I COULD TAKE THE REST OF THE TIME OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE TO
01:03:28TIME OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE TO GO FTHROUGH THE REASONS THIS I GO FTHROUGH THE REASONS THIS I DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT. YOU SEE IT IN THE REACTION BUT
01:03:32YOU SEE IT IN THE REACTION BUT I WILL FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE BY
01:03:37I WILL FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE BY IS WE ARE BUILDING THIS
01:03:38IS WE ARE BUILDING THIS COUNTRY, WE'RE BUILDING THIS
01:03:43COUNTRY, WE'RE BUILDING THIS COUNTRY IN A MORE DANGEROUS
01:03:48COUNTRY IN A MORE DANGEROUS HOSTILE WORLD, DIFFICULT WORLD, HOSTILE WORLD, DIFFICULT WORLD, AS WELL. AS WELL. THIS GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO
01:03:52THIS GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO THAT. THAT. YOU HEARD MY COMMITMENT TO THE YOU HEARD MY COMMITMENT TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE WILL
01:03:56ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE WILL BALANCE THE OPERATING BUDGET BALANCE THE OPERATING BUDGET NEXT YEAR, A YEAR EARLIER.
01:03:59NEXT YEAR, A YEAR EARLIER. WE ARE MAINTAINING THAT FISCAL
01:04:01WE ARE MAINTAINING THAT FISCAL POSITION, THE BEST FISCAL
01:04:04POSITION, THE BEST FISCAL POSITION IN THE G7. POSITION IN THE G7. AS WE DO THAT WE NEED TO BE AS WE DO THAT WE NEED TO BE SMART WITH HOW WE USE THE
01:04:08SMART WITH HOW WE USE THE ASSETS WE HAVE. ASSETS WE HAVE. >> Reporter: NOW THE LEADER OF
01:04:12>> Reporter: NOW THE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION PIERRE THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION PIERRE POILIEVRE IS NOT IMMEDIATELY
01:04:15POILIEVRE IS NOT IMMEDIATELY OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA. OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA. WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT HE
01:04:18WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT HE SAID IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO
01:04:20SAID IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT IT MEANS FOR CANADIANS IN
01:04:23WHAT IT MEANS FOR CANADIANS IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY AND TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY AND WHETHER PRICES GO UP OR DOWN.
01:04:26WHETHER PRICES GO UP OR DOWN. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN OTHER THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN OTHER OPPOSITION LEADERS THAT WE'VE
01:04:29OPPOSITION LEADERS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM IN STATEMENTS TODAY
01:04:31HEARD FROM IN STATEMENTS TODAY WHO REALLY DON'T LIKE THIS
01:04:35WHO REALLY DON'T LIKE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT AT ALL. ANNOUNCEMENT AT ALL. HERE'S WHAT PIERRE POILIEVRE
01:04:38HERE'S WHAT PIERRE POILIEVRE HAD TO SAY. HAD TO SAY. >> The Hon. Pierre Poilievre:
01:04:41>> The Hon. Pierre Poilievre: WE WANT TO SEE THE DETAILS OF WE WANT TO SEE THE DETAILS OF THIS PLAN AND HOW IT'S GOING TO
01:04:44THIS PLAN AND HOW IT'S GOING TO SAVE MONEY FOR CANADIANS. SAVE MONEY FOR CANADIANS. IF IT'S NOT GOING TO SAVE
01:04:46IF IT'S NOT GOING TO SAVE MONEY, WHY DO IT. MONEY, WHY DO IT. CANADIANS ARE ALREADY CASH
01:04:50CANADIANS ARE ALREADY CASH STRAPPED OR BROKE. STRAPPED OR BROKE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
01:04:53WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SWEETHEART DEALS FOR
01:04:55NOT SWEETHEART DEALS FOR CORPORATE BROKERS AND LIBERAL CORPORATE BROKERS AND LIBERAL INSIDERS AT THE EXPENSE OF HARD
01:04:59INSIDERS AT THE EXPENSE OF HARD WORKING CANADIANS WHO ARE WORKING CANADIANS WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO PUT FOOD
01:05:02ALREADY STRUGGLING TO PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. ON THEIR TABLE. >> Reporter: NOW THE CANADIAN
01:05:04>> Reporter: NOW THE CANADIAN LABOUR CONGRESS IS ONE OF THOSE LABOUR CONGRESS IS ONE OF THOSE WHO IS OPPOSED, A LABOUR GROUP
01:05:08WHO IS OPPOSED, A LABOUR GROUP THAT'S -- A VERY LARGE LABOUR
01:05:12THAT'S -- A VERY LARGE LABOUR GROUP THAT'S OPPOSED TO THE GROUP THAT'S OPPOSED TO THE IDEA SAYING THAT WHEN YOU PUT A
01:05:15IDEA SAYING THAT WHEN YOU PUT A PROFIT MOTIVE IN THERE, IT'S
01:05:16PROFIT MOTIVE IN THERE, IT'S NOT THAT YOU DON'T GET MONEY TO
01:05:19SPEND ON THINGS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS HOPING TO SPEND GOVERNMENT IS HOPING TO SPEND ON BUT YOU DO END UP RAISING
01:05:22ON BUT YOU DO END UP RAISING THE COSTS FOR PASSENGERS, FOR THE COSTS FOR PASSENGERS, FOR AIRLINES, FOR ANYONE USING
01:05:25AIRLINES, FOR ANYONE USING THOSE AIRPORTS AND THAT'S WHY THOSE AIRPORTS AND THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS
01:05:29THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PLAN. PLAN. >> Andrew: AND THAT WAS NOT THE
01:05:31>> Andrew: AND THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY BIG ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY.
01:05:34ONLY BIG ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY. WHAT ELSE DID CARNEY REVEAL?
01:05:37WHAT ELSE DID CARNEY REVEAL? >> Reporter: SO HE TALKED
01:05:38>> Reporter: SO HE TALKED ABOUT -- REVEALED THIS PLAN FOR
01:05:43ABOUT -- REVEALED THIS PLAN FOR A MAJOR CHANGE TO AN EXISTING
01:05:47A MAJOR CHANGE TO AN EXISTING DEDUCTION. DEDUCTION. THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IT FROM A
01:05:50THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IT FROM A SUPER DEDUCTION TO A
01:05:54SUPER DEDUCTION TO A MEGADEDUCTION, AND THEY MADE A
01:05:56MEGADEDUCTION, AND THEY MADE A LITTLE JOKE OF THAT, SAYING
01:06:00LITTLE JOKE OF THAT, SAYING THAT "SUPER" WAS ALREADY USED,
01:06:03THAT "SUPER" WAS ALREADY USED, MAKING INVESTMENTS IN MAKING
01:06:05MAKING INVESTMENTS IN MAKING THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE, IN
01:06:10THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE, IN EQUIPMENT, THAT KIND OF THING
01:06:14EQUIPMENT, THAT KIND OF THING AND ALSO MAKING THIS EXPANSION AND ALSO MAKING THIS EXPANSION PERMANENT.
01:06:17PERMANENT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIBRE
01:06:21SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIBRE OPTICS, MINING PROPERTY, NEW
01:06:24OPTICS, MINING PROPERTY, NEW SOFTWARE SO THESE ARE JUST SOME SOFTWARE SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT BUSINESSES
01:06:27OF THE THINGS THAT BUSINESSES WOULD BE ABLE TO WRITE OFF WOULD BE ABLE TO WRITE OFF IMMEDIATELY AND IT WOULD BRING
01:06:30IMMEDIATELY AND IT WOULD BRING THE MARGINAL TAX RATE IN CANADA
01:06:33TO 6.4%, THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS, MAKING IT THE LOWEST IN SAYS, MAKING IT THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD, MAKING CANADA VERY,
01:06:37THE WORLD, MAKING CANADA VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE. VERY COMPETITIVE. HE DID SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT
01:06:40HE DID SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS A YEAR AHEAD IN ITS GOAL TO IS A YEAR AHEAD IN ITS GOAL TO BALANCE THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
01:06:43BALANCE THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET. NOT THE CAPITAL BUDGET. NOT THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THAT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE A
01:06:46THAT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE A DEFICIT BUT THE OPERATIONAL DEFICIT BUT THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET IN TERMS OF THE COST OF
01:06:49BUDGET IN TERMS OF THE COST OF RUNNING GOVERNMENT, THAT IS
01:06:51RUNNING GOVERNMENT, THAT IS GOING TO BE BALANCED AHEAD OF
01:06:54GOING TO BE BALANCED AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, SOMETHING THAT WE'LL SCHEDULE, SOMETHING THAT WE'LL SEE AHEAD OF THE FALL IN TERMS
01:06:58SEE AHEAD OF THE FALL IN TERMS OF THE DETAILS OF HOW THEY'RE OF THE DETAILS OF HOW THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING THAT AHEAD OF
01:07:01ACCOMPLISHING THAT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. SCHEDULE. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE
01:07:04I ALSO WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE NOTE, ANDREW, AND THAT IS THE
01:07:07NOTE, ANDREW, AND THAT IS THE CLOSING REMARKS AT THIS SUMMIT
01:07:09CLOSING REMARKS AT THIS SUMMIT WILL BE FROM CONSERVATIVE PRIME WILL BE FROM CONSERVATIVE PRIME MINISTER, FORMER PRIME MINISTER
01:07:12MINISTER, FORMER PRIME MINISTER STEPHEN HARPER WHICH HAS A LOT STEPHEN HARPER WHICH HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZING THAT THIS
01:07:15OF PEOPLE REALIZING THAT THIS SUMMIT IS VERY -- CROSSING MANY
01:07:19SUMMIT IS VERY -- CROSSING MANY POLITICAL LINES THAT IT PERHAPS
01:07:22POLITICAL LINES THAT IT PERHAPS ISN'T A PARTISAN EVENT
01:07:27LIVE AT THE INVESTMENT SUMMIT IN TORONTO. IN TORONTO. >>> TURNING NOW TO SOME
01:07:30>>> TURNING NOW TO SOME BREAKING NEWS, IN RELATION TO
01:07:33BREAKING NEWS, IN RELATION TO AN ALLEGED THREAT TO THE PRIME AN ALLEGED THREAT TO THE PRIME MINISTER'S LIFE.
01:07:37MINISTER'S LIFE. A 31-YEAR-OLD CALGARY MAN HAS A 31-YEAR-OLD CALGARY MAN HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED HAS
01:07:40BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED HAS NOW APPEARED IN COURT AND THE
01:07:43NOW APPEARED IN COURT AND THE CBCs DARREN McCAFFREY JOINS ME
01:07:45CBCs DARREN McCAFFREY JOINS ME WITH MORE DETAILS.
01:07:47WITH MORE DETAILS. DARREN, WHAT DO WE KNOW?
01:07:50DARREN, WHAT DO WE KNOW? >> Reporter: 31-YEAR-OLD JAMIE
01:07:58>> Reporter: 31-YEAR-OLD JAMIE [indiscernible] TO APPEAR, AS
01:08:00[indiscernible] TO APPEAR, AS YOU SAY, CHARGED WITH UTTERING
01:08:05YOU SAY, CHARGED WITH UTTERING THREATS AGAINST THE PRIME
01:08:10THREATS AGAINST THE PRIME MIN MIN MINISTER.
01:08:12MINISTER. WE KNOW THAT HE APPEARED VIA
01:08:15WE KNOW THAT HE APPEARED VIA CCTV AND THE EXPECTATION IS CCTV AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS CASE WILL RETURN TO
01:08:18THAT THIS CASE WILL RETURN TO COURT ON FRIDAY. COURT ON FRIDAY. THIS ALL RELATES BACK TO AN
01:08:22THIS ALL RELATES BACK TO AN INCIDENT IN JULY THAT WAS MADE
01:08:24INCIDENT IN JULY THAT WAS MADE AWARE TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY
01:08:28AWARE TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ENFORCEMENT TEAM CALLED NSET. ENFORCEMENT TEAM CALLED NSET. ON A YOUTUBE ACCOUNT HE HAD
01:08:32ON A YOUTUBE ACCOUNT HE HAD POSTED A THREAT AGAINST THE
01:08:35POSTED A THREAT AGAINST THE PRIME MINISTER ALLEGEDLY. PRIME MINISTER ALLEGEDLY. HE IS CHARGED WITH OTHER
01:08:38HE IS CHARGED WITH OTHER UNRELATED OFFENSES BEFORE THE UNRELATED OFFENSES BEFORE THE COURT TODAY INCLUDING
01:08:41COURT TODAY INCLUDING EXTORTION, THREE COUNTS OF
01:08:45EXTORTION, THREE COUNTS OF UTTERING INTENT AND THREATS
01:08:50UTTERING INTENT AND THREATS WHILE WEARING A COSTUME DURING
01:08:57WHILE WEARING A COSTUME DURING THE EXECUTION. THE EXECUTION. WHAT WE'RE SEEING, ANDREW,
01:09:00WHAT WE'RE SEEING, ANDREW, PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST COUPLE PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS A BIG INCREASE IN
01:09:03OF YEARS IS A BIG INCREASE IN THREATS TOWARDS PRIME THREATS TOWARDS PRIME MINISTERS. MINISTERS. IF YOU LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE
01:09:07IF YOU LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE STATISTICS QUITE STARK, REALLY.
01:09:09STATISTICS QUITE STARK, REALLY. THIS IS FROM THE PRIVY COUNCIL
01:09:12THIS IS FROM THE PRIVY COUNCIL OFFICE SHOWING IN 2021, SORRY,
01:09:16OFFICE SHOWING IN 2021, SORRY, THE NUMBER OF THREATS AGAINST THE NUMBER OF THREATS AGAINST THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER
01:09:19THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU STOOD AT 11.
01:09:21JUSTIN TRUDEAU STOOD AT 11. BY 2024 IT HAD INCREASED TO 212
01:09:24BY 2024 IT HAD INCREASED TO 212 AND IN THE FIRST 110 DAYS OF
01:09:27AND IN THE FIRST 110 DAYS OF MARK CARNEY BECOMING LIBERAL MARK CARNEY BECOMING LIBERAL LEADER AND THEN PRIME MINISTER
01:09:30LEADER AND THEN PRIME MINISTER HE HAD BEEN TARGETED 79 TIMES,
01:09:34HE HAD BEEN TARGETED 79 TIMES, 12 OF WHICH WERE DEEMED TO BE 12 OF WHICH WERE DEEMED TO BE DIRECT, THE REST LABELLED AT
01:09:37DIRECT, THE REST LABELLED AT INDIRECT SO WE HAVE SEEN A BIG INDIRECT SO WE HAVE SEEN A BIG INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
01:09:41INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF THREATS MADE TO PRIME
01:09:45THREATS MADE TO PRIME MINISTERS.
01:09:51THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE CBC'S DARREN McCAFFREY.
01:09:54THE CBC'S DARREN McCAFFREY. CANADA'S PUSH TO DIVERSIFY IS CANADA'S PUSH TO DIVERSIFY IS BEING SPURRED TODAY BY A NEW
01:09:58BEING SPURRED TODAY BY A NEW ROUND OF U.S. TARIFFS.
01:09:59ROUND OF U.S. TARIFFS. 50% LEVIES ON MORE THAN 100
01:10:0250% LEVIES ON MORE THAN 100 CANADIAN PRODUCTS CAME INTO CANADIAN PRODUCTS CAME INTO EFFECT EARLY THIS MORNING.
01:10:05EFFECT EARLY THIS MORNING. THE WHITE HOUSE IS IT REMOVING THE WHITE HOUSE IS IT REMOVING OTHER TARIFFS ON A SMALLER LIST OTHER TARIFFS ON A SMALLER LIST OF GOODS.
01:10:09OF GOODS. THE CBC'S DAVID THURTON IS ON THE CBC'S DAVID THURTON IS ON THE STORY AND JOINS US LIVE FROM THE STORY AND JOINS US LIVE FROM OUR OTTAWA BUREAU.
01:10:13OUR OTTAWA BUREAU. WHAT IS THIS TWEAKING OF TARIFFS
01:10:15WHAT IS THIS TWEAKING OF TARIFFS SAYING ABOUT WASHINGTON'S SAYING ABOUT WASHINGTON'S INTENTIONS?
01:10:19INTENTIONS? >> Reporter: ANDREW, WE CAN'T >> Reporter: ANDREW, WE CAN'T FORGET THAT CERTAIN GOODS GOING
01:10:22FORGET THAT CERTAIN GOODS GOING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INTO THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA ARE FACING A NEW ROUND OF
01:10:25CANADA ARE FACING A NEW ROUND OF TARIFFS THAT TAKE EFFECT TODAY. TARIFFS THAT TAKE EFFECT TODAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN
01:10:29WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN PAPER, WOOD AND ALUMINUM PAPER, WOOD AND ALUMINUM PRODUCTS COMING FROM CANADA INTO
01:10:32PRODUCTS COMING FROM CANADA INTO THE UNITED STATES FACING NEW THE UNITED STATES FACING NEW TARIFFS.
01:10:34TARIFFS. AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE ARE CERTAIN
01:10:37MENTIONED, THERE ARE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO GET BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO GET A BREAK FROM TARIFFS BECAUSE THE
01:10:40A BREAK FROM TARIFFS BECAUSE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS TAKING THOSE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS TAKING THOSE TRADE PROTECTION MEASURES AWAY.
01:10:43TRADE PROTECTION MEASURES AWAY. WE'LL GET INTO THAT, BUT FIRST WE'LL GET INTO THAT, BUT FIRST LET'S HEAR FROM ONE OF THOSE
01:10:47LET'S HEAR FROM ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT CONTINUES TO BE
01:10:49BUSINESSES THAT CONTINUES TO BE IMPACTED BY THE TRADE WAR.
01:10:53IMPACTED BY THE TRADE WAR. HERE'S A GOLF MANUFACTURER WHO HERE'S A GOLF MANUFACTURER WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPACTS.
01:10:57SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPACTS. >> SHIPPING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF >> SHIPPING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND
01:11:00CHICAGO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND IT WAS KIND OF A MINOR TARIFF
01:11:02IT WAS KIND OF A MINOR TARIFF THAT WE COULD ABSORB AT ABOUT
01:11:04THAT WE COULD ABSORB AT ABOUT $450 TO DO THAT AND ABOUT A $450 TO DO THAT AND ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF LATER, WE
01:11:07MONTH AND A HALF LATER, WE SHIPPED ONE TO A CUSTOMER IN
01:11:09SHIPPED ONE TO A CUSTOMER IN HAWAII AND IT WAS A HAWAII AND IT WAS A $4,800 TARIFF.
01:11:13$4,800 TARIFF. SO THE -- YOU KNOW IT'S SO THE -- YOU KNOW IT'S UNPREDICTABLE.
01:11:16UNPREDICTABLE. WE'VE JUST DONE A COMPANY WIDE WE'VE JUST DONE A COMPANY WIDE POLICY ON NOT SHIPPING TO THE
01:11:20POLICY ON NOT SHIPPING TO THE U.S. AND NOT SELLING TO THAT U.S. AND NOT SELLING TO THAT MARKET BECAUSE WE CAN'T PREDICT
01:11:23MARKET BECAUSE WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE COST WISE.
01:11:26COST WISE. >> Reporter: NOW AS I >> Reporter: NOW AS I MENTIONED, ANDREW, THERE ARE
01:11:30MENTIONED, ANDREW, THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES GETTING A BREAK, SOME BUSINESSES GETTING A BREAK, THE TARIFFS ARE GOING AWAY ON
01:11:34THE TARIFFS ARE GOING AWAY ON TOILET PAPER, ROAD SALT AND TOILET PAPER, ROAD SALT AND CEMENT AND I THINK THESE
01:11:37CEMENT AND I THINK THESE PRODUCTS ARE A BIT OF A TELL AND PRODUCTS ARE A BIT OF A TELL AND THEY REVEAL SOME OF THE
01:11:41THEY REVEAL SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES OF THE U.S. VULNERABILITIES OF THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION IN THIS TRADE ADMINISTRATION IN THIS TRADE WAR.
01:11:45WAR. SO WHEN IT COMES TO TOILET SO WHEN IT COMES TO TOILET PAPER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
01:11:48PAPER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CONSUMER PRODUCT, EVERYONE A CONSUMER PRODUCT, EVERYONE USES TOILET PAPER, AND IF YOU
01:11:52USES TOILET PAPER, AND IF YOU IMPOSE A TARIFF ON THIS, THIS IMPOSE A TARIFF ON THIS, THIS INCREASES THE PRICE AT THE CHECK
01:11:55INCREASES THE PRICE AT THE CHECK OUT COUNTER, AND WE KNOW THAT
01:11:57OUT COUNTER, AND WE KNOW THAT AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG CONCERN
01:12:00AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG CONCERN FOR U.S. CONSUMERS. FOR U.S. CONSUMERS. WHEN IT COMES TO ROCK SALT, AN
01:12:04WHEN IT COMES TO ROCK SALT, AN INTERESTING THING THAT THE U.S. INTERESTING THING THAT THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING AWAY
01:12:07ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING AWAY THE TARIFF ON, BUT LOOK, THIS IS
01:12:09THE TARIFF ON, BUT LOOK, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S USED ACROSS
01:12:13SOMETHING THAT'S USED ACROSS NORTHERN STATES IN THE UNITED NORTHERN STATES IN THE UNITED STATES AND WHEN IT COMES TO SOME
01:12:16STATES AND WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE BORDER STATES, THE U.S.
01:12:21OF THE BORDER STATES, THE U.S. MID-TERMS ARE GOING TO BE MID-TERMS ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGING FOR THE REPUBLICANS,
01:12:24CHALLENGING FOR THE REPUBLICANS, IT'S GOING TO BE CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO BE CERTAINLY INTERESTING WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTERESTING WHEN IT COMES TO THE U.S. MID-TERMS FOR THE
01:12:28U.S. MID-TERMS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. REPUBLICAN PARTY. SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO
01:12:30SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CEMENT, THE TARIFFS WILL BE GONE CEMENT, THE TARIFFS WILL BE GONE ON THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING
01:12:33ON THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS USED ACROSS STATES IN
01:12:37THAT IS USED ACROSS STATES IN THE UNITED STATES AND IT IS
01:12:39THE UNITED STATES AND IT IS USED, OF COURSE, IN CRITICAL USED, OF COURSE, IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, HOME BUILDING,
01:12:43INFRASTRUCTURE, HOME BUILDING, HOUSING. HOUSING. THAT KIND OF THING.
01:12:45THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. IT'S AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. IT'S A STRATEGIC ISSUE FOR THE
01:12:49IT'S A STRATEGIC ISSUE FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND SO IT'S NOT U.S. GOVERNMENT AND SO IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE WHY THE U.S.
01:12:53HARD TO SEE WHY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD REMOVE THE GOVERNMENT WOULD REMOVE THE TARIFFS ON CEMENT AND THOSE
01:12:56TARIFFS ON CEMENT AND THOSE OTHER PRODUCTS I MENTIONED. OTHER PRODUCTS I MENTIONED. SO YEAH, SOME TARIFFS ARE TAKING
01:12:59SO YEAH, SOME TARIFFS ARE TAKING EFFECT TODAY, BUT SOME TARIFFS EFFECT TODAY, BUT SOME TARIFFS ARE BEING REMOVED SO THAT IMPACT
01:13:03ARE BEING REMOVED SO THAT IMPACT IS MIXED FOR CANADIAN BUSINESSES IS MIXED FOR CANADIAN BUSINESSES TODAY.
01:13:07TODAY. >> Andrew: WHERE DO THINGS >> Andrew: WHERE DO THINGS STAND WITH U.S. TRADE TALKS AT STAND WITH U.S. TRADE TALKS AT THIS MOMENT?
01:13:11THIS MOMENT? >> Reporter: YEAH, THERE'S A
01:13:13COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING THAT TRUMP HAS BEEN SAYING THAT CANADA WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL, BUT
01:13:17CANADA WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME EARMUFFS TEST
01:13:19AT THE SAME TIME EARMUFFS TEST PRATT TO MAKE WE'E
01:13:24PRATT TO MAKE WE'E TO MAKE A DEAL. TO MAKE A DEAL. THE U.S. IS BANNING CERTAIN
01:13:27THE U.S. IS BANNING CERTAIN ALCOHOL, DAIRY AND MOTORCYCLES ALCOHOL, DAIRY AND MOTORCYCLES COMING FROM CANADA INTO THE U.S.
01:13:31COMING FROM CANADA INTO THE U.S. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A BIG AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A BIG THREAT AGAINST CANADA'S AUTO
01:13:35THREAT AGAINST CANADA'S AUTO SECTOR WRIT LARGE IN THE NEW SECTOR WRIT LARGE IN THE NEW YEAR.
01:13:38YEAR. IN SPITE OF ALL OF THAT, CARNEY IN SPITE OF ALL OF THAT, CARNEY SEEMS TO BE KEEPING QUITE BUSY.
01:13:41SEEMS TO BE KEEPING QUITE BUSY. HE IS ATTENDING THIS INVESTMENT
01:13:43HE IS ATTENDING THIS INVESTMENT SUMMIT IN TORONTO, STILL SUMMIT IN TORONTO, STILL REPORTERS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS
01:13:47REPORTERS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH NEGOTIATIONS.
01:13:50NEGOTIATIONS. HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. >> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney: THERE'S A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL
01:13:54THERE'S A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL DEAL POSSIBLE. DEAL POSSIBLE. CANADA CONTINUES TO STAND READY
01:13:58CANADA CONTINUES TO STAND READY TO DEVELOP THAT AND PURSUE IT.
01:14:00TO DEVELOP THAT AND PURSUE IT. IT HAS TO BE ONE THAT THERE'S
01:14:03IT HAS TO BE ONE THAT THERE'S CLEAR ALIGNMENT OF INTERESTS AND
01:14:08CLEAR ALIGNMENT OF INTERESTS AND A SEQUENCING THAT IS CONSISTENT
01:14:11A SEQUENCING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH IMPLEMENTATION.
01:14:14WITH IMPLEMENTATION. >> Reporter: SO AFTER THIS >> Reporter: SO AFTER THIS SUMMIT, CARNEY HEADS TO EUROPE
01:14:17SUMMIT, CARNEY HEADS TO EUROPE TO DELIVER A SPEECH TO THE E.U. TO DELIVER A SPEECH TO THE E.U. PARLIAMENT.
01:14:21PARLIAMENT. TRUMP MIGHT BE SAYING CANADA IS TRUMP MIGHT BE SAYING CANADA IS DESPERATE TO MAKE A DEAL.
01:14:24DESPERATE TO MAKE A DEAL. BUT JUDGING FROM CARNEY'S
01:14:32It's the last of the honey they made. It's the busiest time of
01:14:34year at this family owned apiary southeast of Ottawa.
01:14:37We're getting the bees ready for winter and we're harvesting
01:14:40all the whatever honeys left on the hive. But it's Co owners
01:14:44say the season isn't all sweet amidst the sting of tariffs.
01:14:47Last month, U.S. President Donald Trump
01:14:49imposed a 50% levy on Canadian honey when trade talks with
01:14:52Canada broke down. Bad timing for these local beekeepers. The
01:14:55fact that you know this trade war is happening at this time
01:14:58just makes a little more complicated for sure.
01:15:01Hive losses have also left some beekeepers in a sticky
01:15:04situation. The tariffs come as a double whammy after
01:15:08significant winter losses for some. Honey crops in eastern
01:15:12Ontario were down 30.5% on average this past winter,
01:15:15according to a survey from the Ontario Beekeepers Association.
01:15:20We were out in the apiaries in the summer time working with
01:15:24our bees, but this year we've been stung
01:15:26by a high winter losses in the springtime and now we're being
01:15:30stung by these 50% tariff breakfasts. Is Thankfully the
01:15:33bees at her farm came out strong this season,
01:15:35but she's concerned about how the tariffs might affect the
01:15:39honey industry, even for local operations like
01:15:42hers that only sell their products locally.
01:15:45Um,
01:15:47all the honey that was slated for export isn't going to the
01:15:50states anymore than it could potentially, you know,
01:15:53has to find a home somewhere. So there could be some
01:15:56increased competition that way on the market. After 30 years
01:16:00in the business, Briffa is leaning on
01:16:02relationships built with local retailers to weather the trade
01:16:06war. I think to be a beekeeper, you have to be resilient like
01:16:09to be in farming in general. So we look at it as an opportunity
01:16:13to to promote,
01:16:15to promote Canadian beekeepers and local honey for sure. A
01:16:19sentiment she hopes consumers share. Jody Appleway, CBC News,
01:16:23Ottawa.
01:16:39[YELLING] >> Aarti: OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE >> Aarti: OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE SCENE LAST NIGHT IN CALGARY.
01:16:43SCENE LAST NIGHT IN CALGARY. N.D.P. LEADER NAHEED NENSHI N.D.P. LEADER NAHEED NENSHI INTRODUCING KYLE CAMPBELL, WHO
01:16:47INTRODUCING KYLE CAMPBELL, WHO WON THE PROVINCIAL BY-ELECTION WON THE PROVINCIAL BY-ELECTION IN THE RIDING OF CALGARY SHAW.
01:16:50IN THE RIDING OF CALGARY SHAW. CAMPBELL WON WITH 47% OF THE CAMPBELL WON WITH 47% OF THE VOTE.
01:16:54VOTE. THAT COMPARED TO THE 43% THAT COMPARED TO THE 43% GARNERED BY MIKE DERRY OF
01:16:58GARNERED BY MIKE DERRY OF PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH'S UNITED PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH'S UNITED CONSERVATIVE PARTY, AND IT'S THE
01:17:01CONSERVATIVE PARTY, AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE N.D.P. HAS WON FIRST TIME THE N.D.P. HAS WON THE SEAT SINCE THE 2015 ELECTION
01:17:05THE SEAT SINCE THE 2015 ELECTION WHEN RACHEL NOTLEY'S NEW WHEN RACHEL NOTLEY'S NEW DEMOCRATS FORMED THE PROVINCIAL
01:17:09DEMOCRATS FORMED THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT. OKAY, SO FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S
01:17:12OKAY, SO FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S JASON MARK BRING IN THE CBC'S JASON MARK USSOFF.
01:17:15USSOFF. HE JOINS US NOW FROM CALGARY. HE JOINS US NOW FROM CALGARY. JASON, THIS IS INTERESTING,
01:17:19JASON, THIS IS INTERESTING, ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR PROVINCIAL POLITICS IN ALBERTA?
01:17:23PROVINCIAL POLITICS IN ALBERTA? >> Reporter: WE ARE EXPECTING A >> Reporter: WE ARE EXPECTING A VERY SLEEPY BY-ELECTION, JUST AN
01:17:26VERY SLEEPY BY-ELECTION, JUST AN ALBERTA CABINET MINISTER WHO HAD ALBERTA CABINET MINISTER WHO HAD LEFT TO BECOME AN OIL AND GAS
01:17:29LEFT TO BECOME AN OIL AND GAS EXECUTIVE IN A DEEPLY EXECUTIVE IN A DEEPLY CONSERVATIVE SUBURBAN RIDING.
01:17:33CONSERVATIVE SUBURBAN RIDING. WELL, AARTI, ALBERTA POLITICS
01:17:35WELL, AARTI, ALBERTA POLITICS DOES NOT DO BORING THESE DAYS.
01:17:37DOES NOT DO BORING THESE DAYS. THE UCP WON IT LAST ELECTION BY THE UCP WON IT LAST ELECTION BY 14 POINTS.
01:17:4114 POINTS. THE N.D.P. FLIPPED IT. THE N.D.P. FLIPPED IT. IT'S HARD NOT TO SEE THIS
01:17:44IT'S HARD NOT TO SEE THIS THROUGH THE PRISM OF THIS THROUGH THE PRISM OF THIS REFERENDUM ALBERTA'S HAVING ON
01:17:47REFERENDUM ALBERTA'S HAVING ON WHETHER TO STAY IN CANADA OR
01:17:49WHETHER TO STAY IN CANADA OR HOLD ANOTHER REFERENDUM TO LEAVE
01:17:52HOLD ANOTHER REFERENDUM TO LEAVE CANADA ON OCTOBER 19, JUST FIVE
01:17:55CANADA ON OCTOBER 19, JUST FIVE WEEKS AWAY.
01:17:57WEEKS AWAY. BUT DANIELLE SMITH, THE U.C.P.
01:18:00BUT DANIELLE SMITH, THE U.C.P. SUPPORT STAYING IN CANADA, THEY
01:18:02SUPPORT STAYING IN CANADA, THEY SUPPORT THAT SIDE, BUT A LOT OF SUPPORT THAT SIDE, BUT A LOT OF VOTERS ARE BLAMING THE UNITED
01:18:06VOTERS ARE BLAMING THE UNITED CONSERVATIVES AND DANIELLE SMITH CONSERVATIVES AND DANIELLE SMITH FOR HOLDING THIS REFERENDUM.
01:18:08FOR HOLDING THIS REFERENDUM. CALGARY BROADLY DOES NOT WANT TO CALGARY BROADLY DOES NOT WANT TO SEPARATE, AND THEY ARE SAYING
01:18:12SEPARATE, AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT TO DANIELLE SMITH THAT THIS THAT TO DANIELLE SMITH THAT THIS IS APPARENTLY SEEMS TO BE A
01:18:15IS APPARENTLY SEEMS TO BE A MESSAGE THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED MESSAGE THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THIS.
01:18:19WITH THIS. IN-BETWEEN THE ORANGE N.D.P. IN-BETWEEN THE ORANGE N.D.P. SIGNS AND BLUE CONSERVATIVE
01:18:22SIGNS AND BLUE CONSERVATIVE SIGNS ON LAWNS IN CALGARY SHAW
01:18:24SIGNS ON LAWNS IN CALGARY SHAW THIS RIDING YOU SAW A LOT OF RED
01:18:27THIS RIDING YOU SAW A LOT OF RED SIGNS FOR THE FOREVER CANADIAN, SIGNS FOR THE FOREVER CANADIAN, THE STAY IN CANADA SIGN.
01:18:30THE STAY IN CANADA SIGN. A LOT OF THOSE WERE ON MORE A LOT OF THOSE WERE ON MORE N.D.P.-FRIENDLY LAWNS, PEOPLE
01:18:33N.D.P.-FRIENDLY LAWNS, PEOPLE SEEMING TO WANT TO SEND A SEEMING TO WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE.
01:18:36MESSAGE. THE N.D.P. LEADER, NAHEED THE N.D.P. LEADER, NAHEED NENSHI, THE FORMER MAYOR OF NENSHI, THE FORMER MAYOR OF CALGARY, THIS IS A BIG TEST FOR
01:18:40CALGARY, THIS IS A BIG TEST FOR HIM AS WELL. HIM AS WELL. HE SEEMED TO BE SURPRISED BY
01:18:44THESE RESULTS. LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAID TO VOTERS LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAID TO VOTERS LATE LAST NIGHT.
01:18:46LATE LAST NIGHT. >> THIS IS AN EARTHQUAKE!
01:18:54>> THIS IS AN EARTHQUAKE! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
01:18:55[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THIS MEANS, THIS MEANS THAT 35
01:18:58THIS MEANS, THIS MEANS THAT 35 DAYS FROM TODAY WE SEND DANIELLE
01:19:00DAYS FROM TODAY WE SEND DANIELLE SMITH AND HER SEPARATIST PALS
01:19:03SMITH AND HER SEPARATIST PALS PACKING!
01:19:04PACKING! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
01:19:10[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] AND WITHIN A YEAR FROM NOW, WE
01:19:13AND WITHIN A YEAR FROM NOW, WE GIVE ALBERTANS THE N.D.P. GIVE ALBERTANS THE N.D.P. GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE.
01:19:17GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
01:19:20[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> Reporter: WELL, THAT >> Reporter: WELL, THAT FIVE-WEEK MARK, IT SEEMS THAT
01:19:24FIVE-WEEK MARK, IT SEEMS THAT POLLS ARE SHOWING A BIG WIN FOR POLLS ARE SHOWING A BIG WIN FOR THE STAY SIDE, BUT ONE YEAR FROM
01:19:27THE STAY SIDE, BUT ONE YEAR FROM NOW, THAT'S A LOT TO ASK. NOW, THAT'S A LOT TO ASK. A LOT CAN CHANGE IN ALBERTA
01:19:30A LOT CAN CHANGE IN ALBERTA POLITICS IN ONE YEAR. POLITICS IN ONE YEAR. WE'VE SEEN BY-ELECTIONS BEFORE.
01:19:33WE'VE SEEN BY-ELECTIONS BEFORE. OF COURSE, THIS IS ONLY ONE OUT OF COURSE, THIS IS ONLY ONE OUT OF 87 RIDINGS. OF 87 RIDINGS. WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ONE YEAR
01:19:36WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ONE YEAR OUT OF A BY-ELECTION, A BIG OUT OF A BY-ELECTION, A BIG MESSAGE SEEMINGLY SENT TO THE
01:19:39MESSAGE SEEMINGLY SENT TO THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THEN THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THEN THE GOVERNMENT STAYING IN POWER.
01:19:42GOVERNMENT STAYING IN POWER. SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY THAT SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO
01:19:45THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO FORETELL WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, FORETELL WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THIS DOES, ACCORDING TO A
01:19:48BUT THIS DOES, ACCORDING TO A LOT OF OBSERVERS, SEND A CLEAR LOT OF OBSERVERS, SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO DANIELLE SMITH ON HOW
01:19:57RIGHT NOW. >> Aarti: OKAY, VERY INTERESTING >> Aarti: OKAY, VERY INTERESTING TO WATCH.
01:22:06>>> OKAY, AND FOLLOWING THIS INVESTMENT SUMMIT, THE PRIME INVESTMENT SUMMIT, THE PRIME MINISTER IS NOW SET TO LEAVE FOR
01:22:10MINISTER IS NOW SET TO LEAVE FOR FRANCE LATER ON TODAY. FRANCE LATER ON TODAY. IT'S PART OF AN ONGOING EFFORT
01:22:13IT'S PART OF AN ONGOING EFFORT TO STRENGTHEN TIES ABROAD. TO STRENGTHEN TIES ABROAD. LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S ASHLEY
01:22:17LET'S BRING IN THE CBC'S ASHLEY BURKE. BURKE. SHE'S ABOUT TO BOARD THE PLANE SHE'S ABOUT TO BOARD THE PLANE THAT WILL BE PICKING UP MARK
01:22:21THAT WILL BE PICKING UP MARK CARNEY IN TORONTO. CARNEY IN TORONTO. SHE'S PART OF THAT PRESS POOL SHE'S PART OF THAT PRESS POOL THAT WILL BE TRAVELLING ON THIS
01:22:25THAT WILL BE TRAVELLING ON THIS TRIP. TRIP. SO ASHLEY, WHAT IS THE PRIME SO ASHLEY, WHAT IS THE PRIME MINISTER AIMING TO DO ON THIS
01:22:28MINISTER AIMING TO DO ON THIS TRIP TO EUROPE? TRIP TO EUROPE? >> Ashley: WELL, FRESH OFF OF
01:22:31>> Ashley: WELL, FRESH OFF OF HIS PITCH TO INVESTORS FROM HIS PITCH TO INVESTORS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, MARK CARNEY
01:22:34AROUND THE WORLD, MARK CARNEY WILL BE TRAVELLING TO EUROPE, WILL BE TRAVELLING TO EUROPE, THE SECOND-LARGEST ECONOMY
01:22:37THE SECOND-LARGEST ECONOMY BEHIND THE U.S., TO TRY AND MAKE BEHIND THE U.S., TO TRY AND MAKE HIS PITCH THERE FOR CLOSER
01:22:40HIS PITCH THERE FOR CLOSER COOPERATION AND TIES. COOPERATION AND TIES. THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID THAT
01:22:43THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID THAT CANADA IS NOT TRYING TO JOIN THE
01:22:46CANADA IS NOT TRYING TO JOIN THE E.U. IN ANY WAY, BUT IT IS E.U. IN ANY WAY, BUT IT IS PLANNING TO ENTER INTO WHAT IT
01:22:49PLANNING TO ENTER INTO WHAT IT CALLED INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS TO
01:22:52CALLED INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS TO STRIKE WHAT HE CALLED A UNIQUE
01:22:54STRIKE WHAT HE CALLED A UNIQUE ALLIANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALLIANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, AND
01:22:58BEFORE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, AND HERE'S WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HERE'S WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT TODAY.
01:23:01HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT TODAY. >> Prime Minister Carney: >> Prime Minister Carney: THERE'S AN ECONOMIC COMPONENT,
01:23:04THERE'S AN ECONOMIC COMPONENT, BUT IT IS ABOUT GREATER BUT IT IS ABOUT GREATER SOVEREIGNTY, HAVING
01:23:07SOVEREIGNTY, HAVING PARTNERSHIPS. PARTNERSHIPS. AND SO THEN YOU START TO SAY, AND SO THEN YOU START TO SAY, WELL, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY PUT
01:23:11WELL, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY PUT THAT INTO PLACE. THAT INTO PLACE. IT'S IN A SERIES OF STRATEGIC IT'S IN A SERIES OF STRATEGIC AREAS.
01:23:15AREAS. YES, ENERGY, WHERE THEY NEED OUR YES, ENERGY, WHERE THEY NEED OUR ENERGY.
01:23:18ENERGY. WE WILL HAVE SOME BENEFIT FROM WE WILL HAVE SOME BENEFIT FROM SOME OF THEIR CLEAN ENERGY
01:23:20SOME OF THEIR CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND INVESTORS, TECHNOLOGY AND INVESTORS, WITHOUT QUESTION.
01:23:23WITHOUT QUESTION. >> Ashley: ALONG WITH ENERGY, HE >> Ashley: ALONG WITH ENERGY, HE SAYS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET
01:23:27SAYS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET CLOSER WITH THE E.U. ON OTHER CLOSER WITH THE E.U. ON OTHER STRATEGIC AREAS AS WELL,
01:23:30STRATEGIC AREAS AS WELL, INCLUDING CRITICAL MINERALS, INCLUDING CRITICAL MINERALS, A.I., DEFENCE AND SECURITY, BUT
01:23:34A.I., DEFENCE AND SECURITY, BUT THE PRIME MINISTER ALSO SAID NOT
01:23:36THE PRIME MINISTER ALSO SAID NOT TO EXPECT SOME BIG REVEAL ON TO EXPECT SOME BIG REVEAL ON THIS TRIP ABOUT DETAILS OF WHAT
01:23:40THIS TRIP ABOUT DETAILS OF WHAT THIS RELATIONSHIP WILL LOOK THIS RELATIONSHIP WILL LOOK LIKE. LIKE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE
01:23:43THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL AT THE E.U.-CANADA
01:23:46MORE DETAIL AT THE E.U.-CANADA SUMMIT NEXT MONTH, AND THIS IS SUMMIT NEXT MONTH, AND THIS IS PART OF ONGOING DISCUSSIONS THAT
01:23:50PART OF ONGOING DISCUSSIONS THAT STARTED LAST YEAR AS CANADA HAS STARTED LAST YEAR AS CANADA HAS TRIED TO PIVOT AWAY FROM SO MUCH
01:23:54TRIED TO PIVOT AWAY FROM SO MUCH RELIANCE ON THE U.S. RELIANCE ON THE U.S. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN. >> BOTH EUROPE AND CANADA ARE
01:23:58>> BOTH EUROPE AND CANADA ARE UNDER ATTACK, FRANKLY, BY THE
01:24:01UNDER ATTACK, FRANKLY, BY THE UNITED STATES, ON OUR ECONOMY, UNITED STATES, ON OUR ECONOMY, ON OUR SOVEREIGNTY, AND THAT IS
01:24:04ON OUR SOVEREIGNTY, AND THAT IS PUSHING US CLOSER TOGETHER. PUSHING US CLOSER TOGETHER. SO THE TIMING OF THIS TRIP
01:24:07SO THE TIMING OF THIS TRIP COULDN'T BE BETTER. COULDN'T BE BETTER. WE NEED TO BUILD RELATIONS WITH WE NEED TO BUILD RELATIONS WITH EUROPE.
01:24:11EUROPE. WE NEED TO COORDINATE BETTER. WE NEED TO COORDINATE BETTER. WE NEED TO BUILD OUR TRADE TIES.
01:24:15WE NEED TO BUILD OUR TRADE TIES. >> Ashley: HE SAYS THIS TRIP >> Ashley: HE SAYS THIS TRIP ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO DONALD
01:24:18ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO DONALD TRUMP THAT CANADA HAS OTHER TRUMP THAT CANADA HAS OTHER OPTIONS.
01:24:21OPTIONS. >> Aarti: THERE WILL BE MEETINGS >> Aarti: THERE WILL BE MEETINGS WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, BUT
01:24:24WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, BUT HE'S ALSO SET TO ADDRESS THE HE'S ALSO SET TO ADDRESS THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT.
01:24:27EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM E.U. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM E.U. M.P.s ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE
01:24:30M.P.s ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE EXPECTING TO COME OUT OF THAT EXPECTING TO COME OUT OF THAT ADDRESS?
01:24:33ADDRESS? >> Ashley: YEAH, THE PRIME >> Ashley: YEAH, THE PRIME MINISTER IS EXPECTED TO DELIVER MINISTER IS EXPECTED TO DELIVER HIS OWN SPEECH AT EUROPEAN
01:24:37HIS OWN SPEECH AT EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT. PARLIAMENT. ALSO ATTEND THE EUROPEAN
01:24:40ALSO ATTEND THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION PRESIDENT, URSULA VON
01:24:44COMMISSION PRESIDENT, URSULA VON DER LEYEN, AND STATE OF THE DER LEYEN, AND STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS. UNION ADDRESS. WE'RE TOLD THIS IS THE FIRST
01:24:47WE'RE TOLD THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN TIME A PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN INVITED TO THAT AND THAT BOTH OF
01:24:50INVITED TO THAT AND THAT BOTH OF THE LEADERS' SPEECHES WILL FOCUS THE LEADERS' SPEECHES WILL FOCUS ON HOW TO DEEPEN THE
01:24:53ON HOW TO DEEPEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA AND RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA AND THE E.U., AND I CAN TELL YOU
01:24:56THE E.U., AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH FROM THAT EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH FROM EUROPEAN MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
01:24:59EUROPEAN MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO WHO THAT WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO WHO SAY THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THEM
01:25:02SAY THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THEM MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL, TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL, TO STRIKE SOME SORT OF STRATEGIC
01:25:05STRIKE SOME SORT OF STRATEGIC ALLIANCE THAT GOES BEYOND ALLIANCE THAT GOES BEYOND M.O.U.s AND SIGNING AGREEMENTS
01:25:09M.O.U.s AND SIGNING AGREEMENTS AND DELIVERS SOME CONCRETE AND DELIVERS SOME CONCRETE RESULTS, INCLUDING BOOSTING RESULTS, INCLUDING BOOSTING TRADE.
01:25:12TRADE. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN. >> THE EUROPEANS LOOK VERY
01:25:15>> THE EUROPEANS LOOK VERY POSITIVE ON HIM, ON THAT SPEECH POSITIVE ON HIM, ON THAT SPEECH IN DAVOS, AND HE NAILED IT.
01:25:19IN DAVOS, AND HE NAILED IT. HE PUT IT REALLY IN THE RIGHT HE PUT IT REALLY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
01:25:23DIRECTION. I THINK IN THOSE UNCERTAIN TIMES I THINK IN THOSE UNCERTAIN TIMES WE BOTH, THE EUROPEAN UNION, THE
01:25:26WE BOTH, THE EUROPEAN UNION, THE EUROPEANS AND CANADIANS, HAVE A
01:25:29EUROPEANS AND CANADIANS, HAVE A HUGE INTEREST IN ELEVATED
01:25:32HUGE INTEREST IN ELEVATED COOPERATION, CLOSER COOPERATION.
01:25:34COOPERATION, CLOSER COOPERATION. >> Ashley: HERE IN CANADA, THE >> Ashley: HERE IN CANADA, THE CONSERVATIVES SAY THEY WANT TO
01:25:38CONSERVATIVES SAY THEY WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CANADA IS
01:25:41KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CANADA IS PROPOSING WITH THE E.U. AND IF PROPOSING WITH THE E.U. AND IF ANYTHING IS -- CANADA IS GIVING
01:26:003
01:26:04in Poland. A decade ago, just 5 Canadian firms attended
01:26:07this defence exhibition. Fiber optic on there as well. This
01:26:10year more than 200 showed up. When you looking at what we're
01:26:14doing with the European Union, the Prime Minister is very
01:26:17bullish on this partnership. As you've seen,
01:26:19when he was sworn in, the first trip he'd made was to
01:26:22the European Union. We'll begin discussions for Unique
01:26:26alliance with the European Union,
01:26:28between Canada and the European Union. We share the same values,
01:26:32we have the same priorities and we have very complementary
01:26:35strengths.
01:26:39In Germany, Europe's economic engine,
01:26:42we found a captive audience for Canada's pitch. Germany needs
01:26:46to reduce its dependencies and find new supply chains
01:26:51and Canada at the same time wants to build value added
01:26:55businesses at home and I think we can do both together and
01:26:59benefit from that. One overarching interest that
01:27:02connects all the so-called middle powers is that there is
01:27:07a fundamental quest for a rule of law environment. I think the
01:27:11moment we're in right now is a increasingly hostile
01:27:15environment.
01:27:17Europeans are looking for more than just market access. They
01:27:22see Canada as a vital stabilizing force amid rising
01:27:25geopolitical friction with the United States and China. The
01:27:30European Union is an economic powerhouse. It's roughly the
01:27:34size of Chinas economy, valued at 23 trillion U.S.
01:27:38dollars. With 27 countries, 450 million people and free
01:27:42movement between borders, Canada already has a foot in
01:27:46the door through SITA, a free trade deal. You should
01:27:50resist German politician
01:27:52Burnt Lang helped negotiate it. No,
01:27:54this understanding that we should have really a rule based
01:27:58order economically, but also politically. Therefore,
01:28:02I guess this Swiss model, and there's a lot of different
01:28:06agreements will be for the near future of the model,
01:28:09perhaps little Swiss, little Swiss.
01:28:16Europe already has a patchwork of integration deals with non
01:28:20EU countries. Norway may be the most closely tied in with the
01:28:24single treaty that binds its laws with Brussels. And then
01:28:28there's Switzerland, which is negotiated its own
01:28:31deep integration with sector by sector deals to access the EU
01:28:35economy.
01:28:37Under the Swiss model, Ottawa wouldn't swallow
01:28:40Brussels rule book whole. It would be a partner,
01:28:42not a member. In theory, Canada could fast track
01:28:45specific sectors like energy, AI,
01:28:47critical minerals and defence, while protecting domestic
01:28:51sectors like supply managed farming. People are looking for
01:28:54a reliable, stable trading partner. And we
01:28:57stand by our contracts, like I said,
01:28:59Chris. And so there's a lot of good conversations to be had
01:29:03around energy, around mining.
01:29:08Like Canada, Europe faced its own moment of
01:29:10reckoning with Washington. I may put a tariff on countries
01:29:13if they don't go along with Greenland because we need
01:29:16Greenland for national security. So I may do that.
01:29:20The turning point came when Donald Trump threatened to
01:29:23annex Greenland, forcing A fragmented Europe to
01:29:26threaten to use its so-called trade bazooka,
01:29:29A regulation that would have allowed hard hitting trade
01:29:32countermeasures against the Trump administration. As there
01:29:36was the first time the member states of the European Union
01:29:40were willing to take out this instrument.
01:29:43And that already had an effect. It had an effect on the US bond
01:29:47market, which then eventually forced
01:29:49Trump to kind of withdraw his his accusations or his threats.
01:29:54For Canada, Leaning on Europe as a
01:29:56geopolitical shield comes with risks.
01:30:00Internally, the EU is fracturing under
01:30:03heavy strain from a rising far right, including in Germany,
01:30:08and cozying up to the EU risks triggering an immediate
01:30:12aggressive backlash from trade Hawks inside the White House.
01:30:16I'm quite appreciate how the Canadian government is acting
01:30:21against this pressure. Is it a model for the European Union?
01:30:25So the attitude has changed. We have to be much stronger and
01:30:30clearer. There are deep practical hurdles too. While
01:30:34deeper integration could theoretically open up new
01:30:37European work and study opportunities,
01:30:40existing red tape remains intense.
01:30:43They didn't have 110 either. At this German Canadian Chamber of
01:30:47Commerce event in Berlin, the friction was clear. I
01:30:51shouldn't have to do the same. Much as Doctor Dirk Roggenbach
01:30:55sells biotech equipment to 70 countries,
01:30:58but not Canada. It would be really beneficial if Health
01:31:02Canada could get in contact with the European Commission in
01:31:06order to align the rules and maybe to facilitate the
01:31:10registration of products in Canada and vice versa for
01:31:14Canadian businesses in Europe. For decades during the Cold War,
01:31:18the Berlin Wall defined where Europe ended. Now Canada is
01:31:22trying to demonstrate a country can step right into Europe's
01:31:26inner circle from the other side of the Atlantic.
01:35:40>> WE'VE HEARD REPEATED WARNINGS THIS MONTH THAT AI INVESTMENT IS
01:35:43THIS MONTH THAT AI INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING SO FAST THAT THERE IS
01:35:45HAPPENING SO FAST THAT THERE IS A RISK IT COULD WIPE OUT
01:35:48A RISK IT COULD WIPE OUT HUMIDITY WARM FRONT DECADE. HUMIDITY WARM FRONT DECADE. ONE OF THE COFOUNDERS OF THE AI
01:35:52ONE OF THE COFOUNDERS OF THE AI GIANT IS CALLING FOR MANDATORY GIANT IS CALLING FOR MANDATORY KILL SWITCHES.
01:35:55KILL SWITCHES. JACK COLLAR EXPANDING THE JACK COLLAR EXPANDING THE POTENTIAL DANGER TO THE BBC.
01:35:59POTENTIAL DANGER TO THE BBC. >> THE BASIC RISK IS HOW WELL DO >> THE BASIC RISK IS HOW WELL DO YOU SEE YOUR CHANCES AT BEING
01:36:02YOU SEE YOUR CHANCES AT BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE RISKS
01:36:04ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE RISKS AFTER SYSTEM THAT IS 100 TIMES
01:36:07AFTER SYSTEM THAT IS 100 TIMES FASTER THAN THE A SMALLEST PLAN. FASTER THAN THE A SMALLEST PLAN. I THINK THAT YOUR CHANCE OF
01:36:10I THINK THAT YOUR CHANCE OF DEALING WITH THAT AND GETTING
01:36:11DEALING WITH THAT AND GETTING OUT IN A SAFE WAY IS PRETTY LOW.
01:36:14OUT IN A SAFE WAY IS PRETTY LOW. SO HIGH LEVEL, YOU NEED TO SO HIGH LEVEL, YOU NEED TO CONTROL AI TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE
01:36:18CONTROL AI TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING THINGS THAT MIGHT
01:36:20YOU ARE MAKING THINGS THAT MIGHT BE SMARTER THAN PEOPLE. BE SMARTER THAN PEOPLE. THINGS THAT ARE SMARTER THAN THINGS THAT ARE SMARTER THAN PEOPLE COULD BE REALLY, REALLY,
01:36:25PEOPLE COULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS. REALLY DANGEROUS. >> THE BACKLASH IS ACTUALLY >> THE BACKLASH IS ACTUALLY BRINGING TOGETHER TWO UNLIKELY
01:36:29BRINGING TOGETHER TWO UNLIKELY BED FELLOWS. BED FELLOWS. U.S. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS AND
01:36:31U.S. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS AND CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST AND FORMER CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST AND FORMER TRUMP OPERATIVE STEVE BANNON.
01:36:34TRUMP OPERATIVE STEVE BANNON. THEY ARE SET TO SHARE THE STAGE
01:36:37THEY ARE SET TO SHARE THE STAGE AND IN AN EVENT IN WASHINGTON AND IN AN EVENT IN WASHINGTON TODAY, CALLING FOR CONGRESS TO
01:36:41TODAY, CALLING FOR CONGRESS TO WORK FASTER TO CURRENT IMPACT OF WORK FASTER TO CURRENT IMPACT OF AI.
01:36:45AI. TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, FRANCIS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, FRANCIS SYMS ASSOCIATE DEAN OF
01:36:48SYMS ASSOCIATE DEAN OF INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY AT HUMBER
01:36:50TECHNOLOGY AT HUMBER POLYTECHNIQUE JOINS US NOW. POLYTECHNIQUE JOINS US NOW. FRANCIS GOOD, MORNING TO YOU.
01:36:53FRANCIS GOOD, MORNING TO YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID. >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID. >> THE ASSERTION HERE IS THAT AI
01:36:56>> THE ASSERTION HERE IS THAT AI IS HAPPENING -- THE INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING -- THE INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING SO FAST THAT IT
01:36:59IS HAPPENING SO FAST THAT IT WILL AT SOME POINT GET WILL AT SOME POINT GET UNCONTROLLABLE, THAT IT MAY GO
01:37:02UNCONTROLLABLE, THAT IT MAY GO ROGUE, AND THEREFORE COULD
01:37:05THREATEN HUMANITY IN SOME FASHION. FASHION. HOW IS IT THAT THE COMPANIES HOW IS IT THAT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE DEVELOPING IT
01:37:09THAT ARE DEVELOPING IT THEMSELVES CAN'T BUILDING IS IN THEMSELVES CAN'T BUILDING IS IN NOW TO DEAL WITH THAT?
01:37:12NOW TO DEAL WITH THAT? >> YEAH, SO THERE'S THIS CULTURE >> YEAH, SO THERE'S THIS CULTURE WITHIN THESE COMPANIES, THEY
01:37:16WITHIN THESE COMPANIES, THEY REFER TO IT AS MODEL FATIGUE,
01:37:20REFER TO IT AS MODEL FATIGUE, WHERE THERE'S THIS HYPOTHETICAL WHERE THERE'S THIS HYPOTHETICAL RACE AGAINST LIKELY CHINA AND
01:37:23RACE AGAINST LIKELY CHINA AND OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, TO BUILDA THE FASTEST AND
01:37:27WORLD, TO BUILDA THE FASTEST AND MOST CAPABLE MODEL FIRST. MOST CAPABLE MODEL FIRST. BECAUSE THOSE THAT BUILD IT
01:37:31BECAUSE THOSE THAT BUILD IT FIRST WILL BE THE ONES THAT FIRST WILL BE THE ONES THAT BRING THE GREATEST RETURNS TO
01:37:34BRING THE GREATEST RETURNS TO THE INVESTORS.
01:37:37WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE MARKET COMPANIES THAT ARE ARE MARKET COMPANIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON PROFITS FOR THEIR
01:37:41FOCUSED ON PROFITS FOR THEIR INVESTORS. INVESTORS. SO THEY MIGHT HAVE ULTIMATE
01:37:43SO THEY MIGHT HAVE ULTIMATE TRUISTIC GOALS, BUT NUMBER ONE, TRUISTIC GOALS, BUT NUMBER ONE, THEY WANT TO WIN THE AI RACE.
01:37:46THEY WANT TO WIN THE AI RACE. AND SO PART OF THAT MEANS THAT
01:37:49AND SO PART OF THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO RELEASE MODEL AFTER
01:37:51THEY HAVE TO RELEASE MODEL AFTER MODEL VERY QUICKLY, AND MODEL VERY QUICKLY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS
01:37:55UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS WE SACRIFICE THINGS SOMETIMES IS WE SACRIFICE THINGS LIKE QUALITY CONTROL AND
01:37:59LIKE QUALITY CONTROL AND TESTING. TESTING. >> THE CHALLENGE, AS YOU SAY,
01:38:02>> THE CHALLENGE, AS YOU SAY, THERE IS A RACE AGAINST CHINA THERE IS A RACE AGAINST CHINA WHICH HAS MOTTE QUITE THE
01:38:05WHICH HAS MOTTE QUITE THE FRONTIER MODELS BUT VERY CLOSE FRONTIER MODELS BUT VERY CLOSE TO THE FRONTIER MODELS AT A
01:38:08TO THE FRONTIER MODELS AT A FRACTION OF THE PRICE. FRACTION OF THE PRICE. TRUMP REJECTING CALLS FOR ANY
01:38:12TRUMP REJECTING CALLS FOR ANY KIND OF REGULATION.
01:38:14KIND OF REGULATION. HE CALLS THEM A HOAX.
01:38:17HE CALLS THEM A HOAX. AND HE IS CLAIMING THAT THE ONLY
01:38:20AND HE IS CLAIMING THAT THE ONLY THING THAT -- THAT IT SHOULD BE
01:38:22THING THAT -- THAT IT SHOULD BE TOUTED IS -- IS WHOEVER WINS AI
01:38:25TOUTED IS -- IS WHOEVER WINS AI WINS IN THE RACE OVER CHINA.
01:38:28WINS IN THE RACE OVER CHINA. I WONDER WHERE YOUR SENSE IS ON I WONDER WHERE YOUR SENSE IS ON WHETHER THERE IS EVEN THE
01:38:32WHETHER THERE IS EVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF REGULATION. POSSIBILITY OF REGULATION. >> YEAH.
01:38:36>> YEAH. I 100% THINK THERE IS. I 100% THINK THERE IS. I THINK THE RACE IS REALLY
01:38:39I THINK THE RACE IS REALLY TOWARDS TRUSTWORTHY AND TOWARDS TRUSTWORTHY AND ETHICALLY RESPONSIBLE AI.
01:38:43ETHICALLY RESPONSIBLE AI. AND, YOU KNOW, I AM HERE IN AND, YOU KNOW, I AM HERE IN VIENNA AT THE U.N. ATOMIC ENERGY
01:38:46VIENNA AT THE U.N. ATOMIC ENERGY CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, AND THAT'S CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FOCUS SON
01:38:50WHERE THE FOCUS SON TRANSFORMATIVE TECHNOLOGY AND TRANSFORMATIVE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW IT CAN BENEFIT PEOPLE, AND
01:38:53HOW IT CAN BENEFIT PEOPLE, AND WE PROTECT AGAINST THE HARMS. WE PROTECT AGAINST THE HARMS. SO THE WORLD HAS DONE IT BEFORE.
01:38:56SO THE WORLD HAS DONE IT BEFORE. BUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS TAKE
01:38:59BUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS TAKE THAT TECHNOLOGY OUT OF THE THAT TECHNOLOGY OUT OF THE COMPANIES AND MAKE SURE THAT IT
01:39:02COMPANIES AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IN THE HANDS OF THE WAS IN THE HANDS OF THE DEMOCRACIES AND THE COUNTRIES DEMOCRACIES AND THE COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.
01:39:06AROUND THE WORLD. AND THE PROBLEM HERE, AND, YOU
01:39:09AND THE PROBLEM HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, ADEN GOMAZ WHO IS THE
01:39:11KNOW, ADEN GOMAZ WHO IS THE FOUNDER OUT OF TORONTO SAID THAT FOUNDER OUT OF TORONTO SAID THAT THE WHERE OF THE SILICON VALLEY,
01:39:15THE WHERE OF THE SILICON VALLEY, AND YOU CAN READ THIS ON HIS
01:39:18AND YOU CAN READ THIS ON HIS BLOCK IS IT CAN LEAD TO CARTEL BLOCK IS IT CAN LEAD TO CARTEL BEHAVIOUR BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS
01:39:22BEHAVIOUR BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A SMALL GROUP OF COMPANIES IT'S A SMALL GROUP OF COMPANIES OUT OF SILICON VALLEY THAT ARE
01:39:25OUT OF SILICON VALLEY THAT ARE DICTATING THE RULES OF THIS DICTATING THE RULES OF THIS GAME, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR
01:39:27GAME, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.
01:39:31THE REST OF THE WORLD. >> THE AVERAGE MAJOR U.S. SENATE >> THE AVERAGE MAJOR U.S. SENATE IS I THINK 66 RIGHT NOW.
01:39:34IS I THINK 66 RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEARINGS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEARINGS, THE VERY FEW HEARINGS THEY'VE
01:39:37THE VERY FEW HEARINGS THEY'VE HAD ABOUT AI, IT HASN'T ALWAYS
01:39:40HAD ABOUT AI, IT HASN'T ALWAYS SEEMED LIKE SENATORS EVEN SEEMED LIKE SENATORS EVEN UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY.
01:39:43UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY. WHAT IS THE PROSPECT THAT THEY
01:39:47WHAT IS THE PROSPECT THAT THEY COULD REGULATE AT ALL?
01:39:50COULD REGULATE AT ALL? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. WELL, I THINK THERE'S NOW TWO --
01:39:53WELL, I THINK THERE'S NOW TWO -- TWO BUILDS OR ACTS THAT THEY ARE TWO BUILDS OR ACTS THAT THEY ARE BEING INTRODUCED OR STARTING TO
01:39:57BEING INTRODUCED OR STARTING TO GET DISCUSSED. GET DISCUSSED. ONE IS THE AI KILL SWITCH ACT,
01:40:00ONE IS THE AI KILL SWITCH ACT, AND THE FOCUS OF THAT IS MAKING
01:40:02AND THE FOCUS OF THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S AN OFF BUTTONS
01:40:05SURE THAT THERE'S AN OFF BUTTONS SO IF AIG DOES GET TO THE POINT SO IF AIG DOES GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL YOU
01:40:08WHERE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL YOU CAN PULL THE PLUG. CAN PULL THE PLUG. AND THE SECOND ONE THAT'S BEING
01:40:11AND THE SECOND ONE THAT'S BEING INTRODUCED BY SANDERS, AND INTRODUCED BY SANDERS, AND SANDERS IS NOT A YOUNG FELLOW
01:40:14SANDERS IS NOT A YOUNG FELLOW HIMSELF IS FOCUSED ON BANNING HIMSELF IS FOCUSED ON BANNING SUPER INTELLIGENCE AND PAUSING
01:40:17SUPER INTELLIGENCE AND PAUSING DEVELOPMENT OF ADVANCED AI UNTIL DEVELOPMENT OF ADVANCED AI UNTIL REGULATIONS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE.
01:40:20REGULATIONS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE. AND SO I'M ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW,
01:40:24AND SO I'M ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW, BANNON AND SANDERS AND THERE'S BANNON AND SANDERS AND THERE'S MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AS WELL, BUT
01:40:27MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AS WELL, BUT IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR MINDS WRAPPED AROUND, IT RIGHT,
01:40:30MINDS WRAPPED AROUND, IT RIGHT, AND THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER, AND THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE AND
01:40:33THEY CAN COMMUNICATE AND TRANSLATE THAT FOR THEIR PEERS. TRANSLATE THAT FOR THEIR PEERS. SO I'M HOPEFUL TO SEE AND THEY
01:40:37SO I'M HOPEFUL TO SEE AND THEY ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE AISLE.
01:40:40AISLE. THE TWO OF THEM COMING TOGETHER THE TWO OF THEM COMING TOGETHER WHICH MEANS ULTIMATELY WHAT DOES
01:40:43WHICH MEANS ULTIMATELY WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE PEOPLE. THIS MEAN FOR THE PEOPLE. AI CANNOT BE CONTROLLED BY
01:40:46AI CANNOT BE CONTROLLED BY OLIGARCHS. OLIGARCHS. IT HAS TO BE DEMOCRATIC.
01:40:49IT HAS TO BE DEMOCRATIC. THERE HAVE TO BE SAFEGUARDS IN THERE HAVE TO BE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE AND THE BENEFITS NEED TO
01:40:52PLACE AND THE BENEFITS NEED TO COME TO ALL OF US. COME TO ALL OF US. >> BUT THAT KIND OF A CALL MAKES
01:40:55>> BUT THAT KIND OF A CALL MAKES PLACE IN A PLACE LIKE THE UNITED PLACE IN A PLACE LIKE THE UNITED STATES AND MAKES SENSE IN A STATES AND MAKES SENSE IN A PLACE LIKE CANADA.
01:40:59PLACE LIKE CANADA. IS CHINA GOING TO ABIDE BY ANY IS CHINA GOING TO ABIDE BY ANY OF THE SAME RULES?
01:41:02OF THE SAME RULES? >> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. >> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT TRUMP IS AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT TRUMP IS SAYING.
01:41:06SAYING. AND I THINK THE REAL FOCUS IS AND I THINK THE REAL FOCUS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF -- PART
01:41:09THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF -- PART OF WHAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE OF WHAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN SAYING IS THE FIRST ONE TO
01:41:12BEEN SAYING IS THE FIRST ONE TO REACH WHAT WE CALL SUPER REACH WHAT WE CALL SUPER INTELLIGENCE WHERE AI CAN DO
01:41:15INTELLIGENCE WHERE AI CAN DO EVERYTHING AS GOOD AS EVERYBODY EVERYTHING AS GOOD AS EVERYBODY OR EVEN BETTER IS THE ONE THAT'S
01:41:17OR EVEN BETTER IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO WIN EVERYTHING. GOING TO WIN EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S THE -- THAT'S WHAT
01:41:20AND THAT'S THE -- THAT'S WHAT THE SELLING POINT HAS BEEN WHEN THE SELLING POINT HAS BEEN WHEN THEY'VE BEEN ASKING INVESTORS TO
01:41:24THEY'VE BEEN ASKING INVESTORS TO INVEST. INVEST. AND SO THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW,
01:41:26AND SO THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW, PREPARATION TRUMP'S PERSPECTIVE, PREPARATION TRUMP'S PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD IMAGINE IS, THAT CHINA
01:41:29I WOULD IMAGINE IS, THAT CHINA WILL WIN THAT RACE AND WILL WIN WILL WIN THAT RACE AND WILL WIN THE ENTIRE MARKET.
01:41:32THE ENTIRE MARKET. CHINA IS VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED CHINA IS VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THESE COMPANIES, WHERE IN
01:41:35WITH THESE COMPANIES, WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES IT'S A BIT THE UNITED STATES IT'S A BIT SEPARATE. SEPARATE. YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU
01:41:39YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAVE BIG TECH. HAVE BIG TECH. BUT IN CHINA IT'S MORE LINKED BUT IN CHINA IT'S MORE LINKED TOGETHER.
01:41:43TOGETHER. SO I THINK UNLESS THERE'S AN SO I THINK UNLESS THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND
01:41:46INTERNATIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BETWEEN COUNTRIES, IT'S THIS BETWEEN COUNTRIES, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THE DECISIONS
01:41:48VERY UNLIKELY THAT THE DECISIONS IN SILICON VALLEY THAT THEY MAKE IN SILICON VALLEY THAT THEY MAKE ARE GOING TO STOP CHINA.
01:41:51ARE GOING TO STOP CHINA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE THINGS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE COMING TO LIGHT NOW BECAUSE ARE COMING TO LIGHT NOW BECAUSE CHINA HAS CAUGHT UP.
01:41:55CHINA HAS CAUGHT UP. NO LONGER IS U.S. REALLY NO LONGER IS U.S. REALLY DOMINANT. DOMINANT. THESE FRONTIER AI SOLUTIONS ARE
01:41:59THESE FRONTIER AI SOLUTIONS ARE NOT THE FASTEST, BEST SOLUTIONS NOT THE FASTEST, BEST SOLUTIONS IN THE WORLD ANYMORE AND I THINK
01:42:02IN THE WORLD ANYMORE AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT
01:45:07From fake court finds, urgent demands to prevent
01:45:09losing medical coverage or family members asking for help.
01:45:13Police say these scams are reaching residents all across
01:45:17the province. Saskatchewan RCMP say every fraud is unique,
01:45:21and while text messages are common,
01:45:23so are emails and phone calls. Fraudsters are becoming more
01:45:27intelligent in their approaches and the ways that they're
01:45:31contacting victims, which means we need to be on
01:45:34alert as general citizens when we get these calls
01:45:37and and asking those tough questions. Is this legitimate?
01:45:41Do I need to make a call? Experts say scammers are
01:45:44becoming more sophisticated in the ways they operate. That's
01:45:48because AI tools make it easier for attackers to target more
01:45:52communities in less time. Even pre AI that attackers really
01:45:55just have to have
01:45:57will target, you know, thousands of people at the same
01:46:01time and they only really need one or two victims to make make
01:46:05it worth their while. Since June,
01:46:08the Canadian Anti Fraud Centre has processed more than 15,
01:46:12000 fraud reports. It says about 10,
01:46:14000 Canadians have been victims and all told they've lost more
01:46:18than $350 million. So how do we protect ourselves?
01:46:22Most fraudsters pressure their victims to take immediate
01:46:26action, making it hard.
01:46:28This says the situation. Both experts recommend the same set
01:46:31of actions. Stop and take a step back. Listen to your gut.
01:46:35If something feels off, it most certainly is. Do not
01:46:39respond or interact with the sender or link and take a
01:46:42screenshot of the conversation for future record. Contact
01:46:46someone you trust or a legitimate organization and ask
01:46:49questions. Official websites are also a quick,
01:46:52reliable source to confirm any information. Police also say
01:46:56it's important for people to report
01:46:58these frauds so authorities can keep track of trends and alert
01:47:04residents and Rivera. CBC News, Regina.
01:47:09They're very bright, they're blinding. Sometimes
01:47:12driving in the at night when cars are behind you,
01:47:15it's so bright that you have to kind of trying to block it out
01:47:19that way. Many can relate to this scenario. You're driving
01:47:22at night, minding your own business when
01:47:25all of a sudden you are blasted with a bright white light that
01:47:29leaves you thinking that's not very safe. You know,
01:47:31some kind of regulations for for the lights will be great.
01:47:35Vancouver City Council agrees. Kind of admit it's a little
01:47:38personal because my mom
01:47:40absolutely hates these lights when driving. I do realize this
01:47:44is outside of our jurisdiction, but I think it's important to
01:47:47advocate to the federal government. Council has
01:47:50unanimously passed a motion to have the mayor write a letter
01:47:54to Transport Canada urging action to address excessive
01:47:57headlight brightness, including updates to national
01:48:00vehicle safety standards. I feel like it's very dangerous
01:48:03sometimes, especially with my baby. I
01:48:06don't feel like I can go out after 5:00 PM Rd. Safety
01:48:09activists say headlight
01:48:10players a serious issue across Canada as vehicles transition
01:48:14from warmer, old style halogen lights to
01:48:16newer LED headlights. In Europe and in Asia,
01:48:19they have really different headlight regulations than we
01:48:22have here where they're really actually looking at the way
01:48:25these lights are aimed and calibrated. CBC News reached
01:48:28out to Transport Canada but did not hear back in time for
01:48:32deadline. Brighter headlights have improved visibility,
01:48:35but brighter is not always better, right?
01:48:37We need proper aim so that we're illuminating the right
01:48:40parts of the road
01:48:42and we're really able to see well. Counselor ORS Motion will
01:48:45also go before the Federation of Canadian Municipalities when
01:48:49they meet this June.
01:48:51Troy Charles. CBC News, Vancouver.