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00:00:00WE WILL CANNOT TO BUILD MUTUAL
00:00:03RESPECT, WIN-WIN PARTNERSHIPS WHERE EVERYBODY WINS.
00:00:07PEACE AND RESPECT. I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT VALUES.
00:00:10I WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT GUIDE
00:00:12US AND GUIDES MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. >> Rosemary: DO YOU THINK
00:00:16THERE'S A MOMENT HERE FOR CANADA? CERTAINLY THE PRIME MINISTER HAS
00:00:19BEEN TALKING ABOUT MOMENTUM. HE'S HAD A VERY BUSY WEEK.
00:00:22IS THERE A MOMENT WHERE THE WORLD IS LOOKING OR EUROPE IS
00:00:26LOOKING AT CANADA IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IT DID BEFORE?
00:00:28>> I THINK THE PRIME MINISTER
00:00:30CARNEY HAS A CLEAR VISION THAT MIDDLE POWER HAVE TO JOIN
00:00:34FORCES. WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER THE EUROPEAN UNION IS A MIDDLE POWER.
00:00:37WE ARE VERY STRONG.
00:00:39WE ARE VERY STRONG, THE EUROPEAN
00:00:42UNION IS STRONG. CANADA IS VON. BUT WE'RE STRONGER TODAY.
00:00:46THAT'S THE VISION THAT WE NEED
00:00:48TO BUILD WORKING TOGETHER AND IN THE CASE OF EUROPEAN UNION,
00:00:52INVESTMENT BANK. WE DO NOT DO REGULATION.
00:00:54WE DO NOT DO HIGH POLITICS.
00:00:56WE PUT IN IN THE MONEY TO
00:01:00SUPPORT CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES.
00:01:02I THINK THERE'S MOMENTUM IN THE
00:01:06COOPERATION WITH CANADA. >> Rosemary: BECAUSE THINGS
00:01:09ARE SO UNSTABLE FROM AN ECONOMIC
00:01:13PERSPECTIVE, AS WE DON'T KNOW FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO DO IN
00:01:17TERMS TARIFFS. IS THE UNITED STATES STILL PLACE
00:01:21WHERE THE EUROPEAN INVESTMENT BANK WILL WANT TO INVEST?
00:01:24IS THAT TOO HIGH RISK?
00:01:26>> WE DON'T HAVE OPERATIONS IN THE U.S.
00:01:30LET ME SHARE A VERY INTERESTING INSIGHT. WE HAVE CONTACT WITH THOUSANDS
00:01:33OF COMPANIES THAT OPERATE ON
00:01:36BOTH SIDES OF THE ATLANTIC. WE DO REGULAR SURVEYS.
00:01:39IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE CONSISTENCY THAT IT IS U.S.
00:01:42FIRMS THAT ARE SUFFERING THE MOST FROM THE TARIFF WAR.
00:01:45EUROPEAN COMPANIES HAVE ADJUSTED. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR NEW PARTNERSHIPS.
00:01:49NEW MARKETS. THEY ARE GETTING ON WITH IT.
00:01:53IT IS THE U.S. COMPANIES AND
00:01:54U.S. CITIZENS THAT END UP PAYING
00:01:57THIS POLITICS AND THESE POLICIES.
00:02:00I SAY TIME WILL SHOW HOW
00:02:04IMPORTANT IT IS TO PROVIDE TRUST AND STABILITY.
00:02:06THIS IS THE CURRENCY OF CHOICE
00:02:08FOR THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
00:02:10I THINK CANADA AND THE E.U.
00:02:14SHARING THE RIGHT APPROACH.
00:02:16>> Rosemary: SO NICE TO SEE YOU.
00:02:18THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:02:21MARK CARNEY'S AMBITIONS FOR CLOSER PARTNERSHIP WITH THE E.U.
00:02:24PRETTY CLEAR. BUT HAVE THE LIBERALS SOLD THE
00:02:28MOVE POLITICALLY? DO CLOSER TIES WITH EUROPE CARRY RISKS?
00:02:31WHAT QUESTIONS REMAIN. OUR "SUNDAY SCRUM" IS STANDING BY.
00:02:34YOU'RE WATCHING "ROSEMARY BARTON LIVE."
00:05:00>> Prime Minister Carney: WE LAUNCHED THE PROCESS FOR A NEW ALLIANCE WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION.
00:05:04AN ALLIANCE FOR THE FUTURE.
00:05:07IT'S AN ALLIANCE THAT'S ROOTED
00:05:08IN COMMON VALUES.
00:05:12FREEDOM, SOLIDARITY, PROSPERITY, SUSTAINABILITY.
00:05:16IT'S ONE THAT'S DEDICATED TO
00:05:20STRENGTHENING OUR SOVEREIGNTY. >> CONSERVATIVES SAY NO E.U. TAXES.
00:05:24NO E.U. LAWS.
00:05:26NO E.U. OPEN BORDER RULES ON IMMIGRATION IN CANADA.
00:05:30[ APPLAUSE ] >> Rosemary: THAT WAS PRIME
00:05:33MINISTER AND OPPOSITION LEADER ADDRESSING THEIR CAUCUS LAST
00:05:35WEEK, DISCUSSING THE MERIT AND
00:05:37CONCERNS ABOUT THIS CLOSER
00:05:41RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANADA THE E.U. HOW HAS LIBERALS PRESENTED THIS
00:05:44PLAN TO CANADIANS? WHAT IS THE POLITICAL RISK IF
00:05:47THERE IS ANY.
00:05:48LET'S BRING BACK OUR "SUNDAY
00:05:53SCRUM." AARON WHERRY AND GARY MASON A
00:05:57COLUMNIST WITH THE GLOBAL MAIL. AARON, I WILL START WITH YOU.
00:05:59I WILL SAY THAT INTERVIEW I JUST
00:06:02DID WITH THE HEAD OF INVESTMENT
00:06:06BANK, EUROPEAN INVESTMENT BANK HELPED ME UNDERSTAND LITTLE BIT
00:06:09SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES FOR
00:06:12CANADA THEY ARE LOOKING TO PARK THEIR MONEY IN PLACES.
00:06:15I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR
00:06:19PICTURE BEYOND THOSE THINGS WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SAID WHAT
00:06:22THIS IS AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES MIGHT BE GOING FORWARD?
00:06:25>> I THINK A LOT OF DETAILS
00:06:27REMAIN TO BE SEEN.
00:06:30I THINK SOME EXECUTION OR
00:06:33DISTRACTION AROUND WHAT EXACTLY CALL THIS.
00:06:36WAS IT ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP OR NOT.
00:06:38THAT'S TITLE THAT HAS NO LEGAL
00:06:40SIGNIFICANCE WHATSOEVER. I THINK THERE WAS SOME
00:06:43OVERREACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE.
00:06:47IN THAT CLIP YOU PLAYED FROM PIERRE POILIEVRE, WHERE THE
00:06:51CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO BE ADAMANT THAT HE OPPOSE A NUMBER THINGS
00:06:53THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO BE PROPOSING.
00:06:55I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS
00:06:58TO BE SPELLED HOW. I THINK THE CANADIAN PUBLIC FOR
00:07:01ONE IS VERY INTERESTED IN CLOSER
00:07:04TIES WITH EUROPE.
00:07:06I THINK THAT IF WE'RE ALL
00:07:09AGREEING, IT'S ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AGREED THAT CANADA NEEDS
00:07:12TO DIVERSIFY ITS EXPORTS,
00:07:15DIVERSIFY ITS INTERNATIONAL
00:07:19ALLIANCES, A NATURAL ROUTE TO GO
00:07:21WILL BE TO EUROPE. OBVIOUSLY.
00:07:23I THINK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A BIG DISCUSSION MAYBE A
00:07:27MONTH OR SO FROM NOW WHEN THEY HAVE THIS SUMMIT IN MONTREAL AND
00:07:30WE'LL SOW WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT.
00:07:34THERE'S ALWAYS SOME AMOUNT OF FRICTION WHEN YOU TRY TO PUT TOGETHER DEALS LIKE THIS.
00:07:38I THINK ON THE BASIC IDEA OF IT.
00:07:42I THINK MARK CARNEY PROBABLY HAS THE PUBLIC ON HIS SIDE.
00:07:45IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT IT
00:07:48LOOKS LIKE IN PRACTICE. >> Rosemary: AARON REFERRING
00:07:51TO THE PUBLIC OPINION POLLS THAT
00:07:53SHOW VERY MUCH CANADIANS ARE INTERESTED THIS IDEA.
00:07:56I DO THIS WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE DEAL IS.
00:08:00WHAT MORE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BEYOND STUDENT EXCHANGE
00:08:03PROGRAMME, WHICH SOUNDS OKAY.
00:08:05THEN BEYOND WHAT IS IN CETA
00:08:10ALREADY. >> I THINK IN A WAY THIS WHOLE
00:08:11THING IS SORT OF GOING BACK TO
00:08:15THE BASICS OF CANADA.
00:08:19COMING FROM A PART OF THE
00:08:23COUNTRY WHERE --
00:08:26[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
00:08:29EUROPE NEEDED NEWSPAPERS. THEY THOUGHT NEWSPAPER WAS GREAT.
00:08:33THERE GOES CANADIAN FOREST. NOW IT'S CRITICAL MINERAL AND
00:08:35OTHER THINGS.
00:08:37I DO EXPECT THIS IDEA OF CANADA
00:08:42THIS VAST INFINITE RESERVE OF
00:08:46NATURAL RESOURCES TO BE PART OF
00:08:50THE EUROPEAN IMAGINARY.
00:08:55I'M INTERESTED WHAT'S NEW.
00:08:57WHETHER WE CAN SEE EUROPE AS A
00:09:00PLACE TO EXTRACT RESOURCES FROM
00:09:04BUT A MARKET THAT I LIKE TO SEE
00:09:06MORE EUROPEAN CARS AND SMALLER APPLIANCES.
00:09:09IT WILL MAKE US LESS WASTEFUL.
00:09:12JUST THE INNOVATION, THE
00:09:14UNIVERSITY INDUSTRY THAT IS VERY MUCH BEING DISRUPTED BY TRUMPISM
00:09:18IN THE U.S. AND WHAT IT CAN MEAN
00:09:21FOR CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES.
00:09:25THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT COULD
00:09:27BE DONE BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN
00:09:29DONE HISTORICALLY.
00:09:33S GOING TO NEED TIME TO SEE MORE CLEARLY BUT THINK TO THINK
00:09:37OUTSIDE THE BOX.
00:09:39>> Rosemary: FOR SURE. GARY, WHAT DO YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT?
00:09:43>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE
00:09:47TEMPERING OUR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT
00:09:48WHAT THIS COULD MEAN FOR CANADA.
00:09:52YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE
00:09:55HAVE FREE TRADE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED 2017.
00:09:58IT STILL HASN'T BEEN RATIFIED BY
00:10:0010 OF THE 27 E.U. COUNTRIES.
00:10:03IT HAS MEANT SOME BOOST IN TRADE
00:10:06BETWEEN CANADA AND THE E.U.
00:10:09I THINK WE HAD ABOUT $24 BILLION
00:10:11WORTH OF TRADE IN 2017.
00:10:14THAT GREW TO $43 BILLION IN 2025.
00:10:18IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT.
00:10:20BUT, AS A PART OF THE GLOBAL
00:10:23TRADE PART FOR CANADA, IN 2017,
00:10:30EUROPE REPRESENTED ABOUT 4.4% OF
00:10:33TRADE WITH CANADA AND IN 2025,
00:10:38IT GREW 5.5%.
00:10:41IT HASN'T BEEN A GREAT MOTHER
00:10:44LOAD OF INVESTMENT IN TRADE.
00:10:47WE SIGNED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT AROUND SECURITY AND
00:10:51CLIMATE CHANGE AND OTHER ISSUES IN 2016 WITH EUROPE.
00:10:54IT'S STILL HASN'T BEEN FULLY
00:10:59RATIFIED EITHER. SOMETIMES THESE IDEAS SOUND
00:11:02GREAT IN THEORY BUT THEY ARE
00:11:05HARDER TO EXECUTE IN PRACTICAL
00:11:08TERMS. I THINK IN MANY WAYS, IT'S ALMOST SYMBOLIC.
00:11:12IT'S A SYMBOLIC GESTURE THAT
00:11:15SAYS THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE
00:11:19MORE IDEOLOGICALLY ALIGNED WITH WHO WE SHARE VALUES WITH.
00:11:22IT'S JUST ANOTHER MESSAGE TO THE WORLD BUT MOSTLY A MESSAGE TO
00:11:25THE UNITED STATES THAT THESE ARE
00:11:27THE PEOPLE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
00:11:30>> Rosemary: I'M SURE WE'LL LOOK BACK ON THIS MOMENT AND
00:11:34THINK, THIS WAS A REMARKABLE MOMENT.
00:11:36WHETHER THESE PIVOTS HAPPEN AND DO GOOD OR NOT.
00:11:40I DON'T KNOW. IT IS A REMARKABLE SHIFT.
00:11:42I WONDER, AARON, WHETHER THERE
00:11:45SHOULD BE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT MEANS FOR THE RELATIONSHIP WITH
00:11:48THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS IN
00:11:51PRETTY DIRE PLACE RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING
00:11:53THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS NOTICED. HE'S MADE THREATS ABOUT.
00:11:57WE'LL SEE WHETHER THE TWO LEADERS TALK IN NEW YORK.
00:12:00ARE THERE CONCERNS THERE TOO
00:12:02ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP FURTHER DETERIORATING BECAUSE OF OUR
00:12:06DECISIONS TO PIVOT AWAY?
00:12:10>> I THINK OUR DECISIONS ARE
00:12:12COMING IN RESPONSE TO THEIR DECISIONS. AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE TO BE
00:12:15MINDFUL OF HOW THE UNITED STATES
00:12:17WILL REACT AND HOW IN PARTICULAR
00:12:20THIS PRESIDENT WILL REACT, IF
00:12:24YOU WORK YOURSELF INTO A POSITION LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING
00:12:28THAT WILL ANGER THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT.
00:12:30YOU END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO DO MUCH.
00:12:33I DO THINK TO GARY'S POINT, IT
00:12:36IS AN IMPORTANT POINT. WE CAN SIGN FREE TRADE DEALS.
00:12:39WE CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS.
00:12:43IF YOU WANT TO DIVERSIFY ALLIANCES AND TRADE, IT IS GOING
00:12:47TO TAKE REAL DELIBERATE EFFORT
00:12:48OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
00:12:51I THINK ONE SPOT THAT I WILL BE
00:12:53LOOKING FOR IN THIS RESPECT IS
00:12:56MARK CARNEY TALKED ABOUT IT IN
00:12:59HIS SPEECH, A JOINT RESPONSE TO
00:13:02A.I. AND AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY FIRMS.
00:13:05CANADA HAS STRUGGLED WITH HOW TO
00:13:08REGULATE THIS SECTOR. WORKING WITH EUROPEANS MAYBE
00:13:12PRESENTS A CHANCE THAT YOU CAN PRESENT SOME KIND OF UNITED
00:13:15FRONT AND DEAL WITH IT.
00:13:18THAT'S ONE AREA IN PARTICULAR WHERE I WANT TO SEE WHAT COMES
00:13:21OUT THIS. CAN CANADA AND THE EUROPEAN
00:13:25UNION WORK TOGETHER IN A
00:13:26CONCERTED WAY TO PUSH BACK
00:13:31AGAINST TECHNOLOGY FIRMS.
00:13:35>> Rosemary: LAST WORD TO YOU
00:13:43EMILIE. >> I STILL THINK THAT QUEBEC
00:13:46LIKELY TO BE PART OF THE COUNTRY
00:13:48WHERE THAT THE WHOLE -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
00:13:51IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT STILL SEE
00:13:55LANGUAGES IN CANADA AS AN
00:13:57OBSTACLE TO SEE IT AS AN
00:14:01OPPORTUNITY. >> Rosemary: INTERESTING, BECAUSE WE KNOW LANGUAGE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE UNITED STATES.
00:14:04I HAVE TIME FOR ONE LAST THOUGHT
00:14:07FLU TOO, GARY.
00:14:09GET BIGGEST POINT THAT CARNEY
00:14:11REALLY TRYING TO MAKE HERE.
00:14:17SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY TAKE THE
00:14:19FOOT OFF GAS.
00:14:24I THINK HID HIS -- HIS POINT IS.
00:14:2877 MILLION AMERICANS VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP EACH AT DISASTROUS FIRST TERM.
00:14:32AMERICA HAS CHANGED. WE HAVE TO CHANGE. WE HAVE TO MAKE PERMANENT CHANGE
00:14:36IN TERMS OUR TRADE RELATIONSHIPS.
00:14:38THAT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGE
00:14:40GOING FORWARD. >> Rosemary: DEMOCRATS AREN'T
00:14:44SURE WORRIED ABOUT TRADE EITHER.
00:14:48NICE TO SEE YOU ALL ON THIS SUNDAY.
00:14:50ENJOY THE REST YOUR DAY.
00:14:56REPUBLICAN SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS SHARED THIS WARNING FOR CANADA
00:15:00ABOUT STRENGTHENING ITS TIES WITH EUROPE.
00:15:02>> I DO THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE
00:15:05THAT CANADA IS TURNING TO THE EUROPEAN UNION.
00:15:09>> Rosemary: WHAT DOES THIS STRONGER PARTNERSHIP MEAN FOR
00:15:12THE CANADA-U.S. TRADE WAR? IS THERE ANY WAY THOSE TWO SIDE
00:15:15WILL GET TO THE TABLE TO
00:15:19NEGOTIATE. CATHERINE TAI WILL JOIN ME NEXT.
00:15:22STICK AROUND FOR THAT.
00:15:27>> Now to
00:18:09>> Prime Minister Carney: I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU.
00:18:13ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CANADIANS
00:18:14ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
00:18:17BECAUSE, WE KNEW AS WE WERE IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WHAT THE
00:18:21PRIORITIES OF CANADIANS WERE.
00:18:24WE KNEW WHAT THE VALUES OF
00:18:27CANADIANS ARE.
00:18:28IT WASN'T TOUGH TO DRAW RED
00:18:32LINES. >> Rosemary: PRIME MINISTER CARNEY THERE SMOKING TO HIS CAUCUS ON FRIDAY AHEAD OF
00:18:36PARLIAMENT COME BACK TOMORROW. HE SAID IT WAS THE RIGHT
00:18:39DECISION TO STEP AWAY WITH TRADE TALKS.
00:18:42AMBASSADOR CATHERINE TAI SERVED AS PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN'S TRADE REPRESENTATIVE.
00:18:46I SPOKE TO HER EARLIER THIS MORNING ABOUT THE TRADE WAR AND
00:18:50WHAT CANADA CLOSEST PARTNERSHIP WITH EUROPE COULD MEAN FOR TALKS
00:18:53WITH THE U.S.
00:18:56AMBASSADOR CATHERINE TANIST TO
00:18:59SEE YOU AGAIN. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT CANADA-U.S.
00:19:03I WANT TO START BY ASKING YOU ABOUT THIS OFFER THAT CANADA HAS
00:19:06RECEIVED TO BECOME AN ASSOCIATE
00:19:08MEMBER OF THE E.U. CERTAINLY, THE PRIME MINISTER
00:19:11HERE SEEMS INTERESTED IN A
00:19:14DEEPER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE E.U. BEYOND JUST TRADE.
00:19:17WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
00:19:19WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
00:19:22>> WELL, I THINK I CERTAINLY
00:19:24UNDERSTAND THE OPTICS OF THIS
00:19:28GESTURE. IT SHOWS SYNERGY BETWEEN THE
00:19:32EUROPEAN UNION AND CANADA
00:19:33ESPECIALLY AT THIS MOMENT IN
00:19:37TIME WITH INCREASINGLY TENSE
00:19:39RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES.
00:19:41FOR EXAMPLE, THE EUROPEAN UNION CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDS AND HAS NO
00:19:45PROBLEM WITH CANADA BEING A
00:19:48MULTILINGUAL COUNTRY AND SOCIETY.
00:19:51I THINK THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO
00:19:53TAKE A LOOK AT WHY THE OPTIC
00:20:00WORKS NOW. A LOT OF IT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC
00:20:03AND TRADE RELATIONSHIP GLOBALLY
00:20:05BETWEEN THESE TWO COUNTRIES AND
00:20:08THE UNITED STATES. ON THAT, I THINK THAT IT IS
00:20:12PRIMARILY ABOUT THE TRADE AND
00:20:15ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP.
00:20:16I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVERS I
00:20:19WOULD SAY ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP IN THE E.U. CARRIS A LOT WITH I.
00:20:23LET NOT FORGET THAT THE E.U. AND
00:20:26CANADA ALREADY HAVE A TRADE AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
00:20:29I THINK THAT AS A TRADE PERSON,
00:20:33AND SOMEONE WHO SEEN THE TRADE
00:20:36RULE CONTRIBUTION TO ALL RUPTURE
00:20:42WE'RE SEEING TODAY. IT WILL BEHOOVE THE EUROPEAN
00:20:46UNION AND CANADA TO LOOK AT THEIR TRADE AGREEMENT. LOOK AT ALL THE TOOLS FOR
00:20:50REFORMING THEIR RELATIONSHIP
00:20:51WITH EACH OTHER AND TO DIVERSIFY
00:20:55SUPPLIERS SO THAT THEY HAVE MORE CHOICES THAN JUST CHINA AND TO
00:20:59DIVERSIFY CUSTOMERS SO THEY ALSO HAVE MORE CHOICE THAN JUST THE
00:21:03UNITED STATES. THAT DIVERSIFICATION WILL BE KEY
00:21:06TO ALL COUNTRIES INCLUDING THE
00:21:08UNITED STATES FOR A MORE
00:21:10PEACEFUL FUTURE FOR ALL OF US. >> Rosemary: THE PRESIDENT
00:21:13CALLED THE MATTER LAUGHABLE. I WONDER WHETHER YOU THINK THIS
00:21:17WILL GET IN THE WAY OF A
00:21:21CANADA-U.S. TRADING RELATIONSHIP SHOULD WE MANAGE TO GET BACK TO
00:21:23THE TABLE?
00:21:26>> THE PRESIDENT SAYS MANY THINGS.
00:21:28HE CONSISTENTLY MAKES LOTS AND LOTS OF WAVES.
00:21:32I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THE DRAMA
00:21:36IS MEANT FOR UNANNOUNCED
00:21:38STRATEGIC NEGOTIATING PURPOSES.
00:21:40SOMETIMES THE DRAMA IS FOR
00:21:42DRAMATIC PURPOSES TO DRIVE A
00:21:45NARRATIVE TO PEPPER NORMALLY
00:21:50SOBER TYPES OF POLICY AREAS WITH
00:21:55EXCITEMENT, NARRATIVE EXCITEMENT.
00:21:57AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
00:22:01LEADERS OUR COUNTRIES ARE
00:22:02LOOKING AT A CERTAIN SET OF
00:22:06OBJECTIVES AND THE UNITED STATES
00:22:08AND CANADA HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT BEFORE.
00:22:12I REMAIN CONFIDENT THAT THEY
00:22:13WILL BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS
00:22:16PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL.
00:22:18BUT CERTAINLY, RECOGNISE THAT
00:22:21THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THIS
00:22:23ADMINISTRATION FROM VERY TOP AND
00:22:26THROUGHOUT ARE USING TOOLS AND
00:22:28WILLING TO USE RHETORIC THAT
00:22:31CROSS A LOT OF NORMATIVE LINES
00:22:34THAT OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE NOT BEEN
00:22:37WILLING TO CROSS. >> Rosemary: IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE PRIME MINISTER AND THE
00:22:40PRESIDENT RUN INTO EACH OTHER
00:22:45THIS WEEK AT THE U.N. GENERAL
00:22:48ASSEMBLY THERE'S NO FORMAL TALKS HAPPENING.
00:22:51WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
00:22:55TO GET BACK TO THE NEGOTIATING TABLE. DO YOU THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT?
00:22:58>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
00:22:59THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA TO
00:23:03BE ENGAGED. EVEN THROUGH THE VERY TOUGH TIMES.
00:23:06I THINK THAT WHETHER OR NOT PRIME MINISTER CARNEY AND
00:23:10PRESIDENT TRUMP MEET EACH OTHER OR HAVE SUBSTANTIVE INTERACTIONS
00:23:13IN NEW YORK IS A SEPARATE MATTER.
00:23:17THAT PROBABLY IS FOR SHOW.
00:23:20IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO SIGNALING
00:23:23SOMETHING TO THE MARKETS, I'M SURE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL
00:23:26GO OUT OF HIS WAY TO ENSURE THAT
00:23:29HE SENDS SIGNALS HE WANTS TO.
00:23:31AS A MATTER OF GETTING WORK DONE
00:23:34TO STAYING FOCUSED ON THE
00:23:36LONG-TERM OBJECTIVES OF THE VERY CLOSE AND NECESSARILY CLOSE
00:23:40RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED
00:23:42STATES AND CANADA, I WOULDN'T BE
00:23:44SURPRISED IF THERE ARE CONTACTS
00:23:46THAT ARE ONGOING AT LOWER LEVELS
00:23:50THAT WILL HELP TO MAINTAIN THE
00:23:52HEALTH OF THIS RELATIONSHIP WHEN
00:23:54THE LARGER FORCES START TO MOVE ON.
00:23:58>> Rosemary: IT DOES SEEM THAT MEXICO MIGHT BE CLOSE TO SECURING A DEAL WITH THE UNITED
00:24:02STATES. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT COULD
00:24:03MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF CUSMA OR
00:24:10USMCA? >> I THINK THAT THIS FOLLOWS A
00:24:13PATTERN, THIS FOLLOWERSES A
00:24:15PATTERN THAT WE SAW WITH THE
00:24:17RENEGOTIATION OF NAFTA THAT LET
00:24:20TO THE CONCLUSION AND
00:24:23RATIFICATION CUSMA AND USMCA.
00:24:29THE END OF 2018, THE FIRST TRUMP
00:24:32ADMINISTRATION LANDED ITS NEGOTIATION WITH MEXICO BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO LAND A
00:24:36NEGOTIATION WITH CANADA. THEN NEGOTIATOR WHO BEEN AROUND
00:24:39FOR A LONG TIME SINCE ORIGINAL
00:24:41NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS WHO HAVE
00:24:44REMINDED US THAT SIMILAR KIND OF BLOWUPS HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN
00:24:47THE U.S. AND CANADA BEFORE
00:24:52SOMETHING FINAL LANDED.
00:24:54AGAIN, I THINK THAT THIS IS THE NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT
00:24:58WE HAVE WITH EACH OTHER AND I
00:25:00REMAIN OPEN TO SEEING HOW THIS
00:25:03ADMINISTRATION, OURS IS ABLE TO
00:25:07SUCCESSFULLY LAND THIS NEGOTIATION AND THIS RELATIONSHIP, THE STAGE OF THE
00:25:10RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA.
00:25:13>> Rosemary: WOULD YOU AGREE
00:25:16THAT THIS IS PRETTY BAD PACE THAT WE'RE IN?
00:25:19NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE UNITED
00:25:20STATES BUT CANADA HAS RESPONDED
00:25:24WITH COUNTERTARIFFS. THE PRESIDENT RESPONDED AGAIN.
00:25:27IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE DETERIORATED TO PERHAPS WE
00:25:30COULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED? >> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
00:25:34I THINK ANYBODY WITH EYES AND EARS AND SOME MEMORY WOULD AGREE
00:25:38WITH YOU.
00:25:39AGAIN, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE
00:25:42TO CAUTION IS HEAT AND SPICE ARE
00:25:45A PART OF INTERNATIONAL
00:25:48RELATIONS EVEN BETWEEN CLOSE NEIGHBOURS. I WANT FOR THE PEOPLE IN CANADA
00:25:52AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES TO KEEP OUR EYES
00:25:55TRAINED ON THE BALL.
00:25:58THERE'S.A LOT OF RETALIATORY,
00:26:00TARIFF ACTIONS HAPPENING NOW. THAT'S ONLY ABOUT GOODS TRADE.
00:26:04I THINK THAT PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENTS IN BOTH OF OUR
00:26:07COUNTRIES NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON
00:26:08WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
00:26:12TECHNOLOGY AREA.
00:26:14THE MOTIONS OF DOMINANCE AND
00:26:18BULLYING AROUND GOODS ARE BEING
00:26:20REPLICATED IN WAYS THAT I DON'T THINK WE ARE PAYING ENOUGH
00:26:24ATTENTION TO WHEN IT COMES TO
00:26:26TECHNOLOGY, DATA AND A.I.
00:26:30>> Rosemary: AMBASSADOR KATHERINE TAI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
00:26:37♪ [upbe
00:30:07>> Rosemary: THESE ARE PICTURES OF MOSTLY CLOUDY. FROM THERE, THE PRIME MINISTER
00:30:10IS HEADING BACK HERE TO OTTAWA
00:30:12TO MEET WITH THE NORWEGIAN PRIME MINISTER AND ON TO NEW YORK LATER.
00:30:16HAVE A GOOD WEEK.