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00:00:08What kind of future do Albertans want for their province? The upcoming referendum will
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00:00:19It is absolutely shocking that the people on this plane
00:00:22survived.
00:00:25Look, this is video taken by a
00:00:27passenger. Pure panic onboard fly Dubai flight 1073 after the
00:00:32copilot of the plane allegedly stabbed the pilot. The entire
00:00:36plane at this point at grave risk of crashing and everyone
00:00:41was screaming, there were children crying.
00:00:44Except a whole series of things happen. Highly improbable,
00:00:48almost impossible, it seems to me
00:00:52as a commercial.
00:00:57All of these incredible things together end up saving
00:01:00everybody's life against all odds. And I'm going to show you
00:01:04how
00:01:09there were more than 170 people on board this flight,
00:01:13which is a daily flight running from Dubai International in the
00:01:17United Arab Emirates to Ben Gurion International near Tel
00:01:21Aviv in Israel. This is what that flight path normally looks
00:01:25like. It's about a three hour flight,
00:01:27except on September 30th, things would take a very abrupt
00:01:31turn here. But when I say abrupt turn,
00:01:34I don't mean left or right, I mean down.
00:01:37At around 8:21 AM local time over Saudi airspace,
00:01:40the plane lost altitude more than 17,
00:01:43000 feet in under a minute and it speed up dramatically as it
00:01:48pitched towards the earth
00:01:51Jordanian border. Suddenly the aircraft dropped a massive
00:01:55massive turbulence for 2030 seconds. We know now what was
00:02:00happening around this time was the planes copilot allegedly
00:02:04attacking the planes captain nearly killing him. The
00:02:07struggle beginning after he stabbed the other pilot and
00:02:11sent the jet plunging thousands of meters in just seconds. At
00:02:16this point, with the attacker taking
00:02:18control, potentially looking to crash
00:02:21the plane, the only way that people on
00:02:24board survive is if the captain survives. And improbably,
00:02:28he does. This is him, Captain Smith Matcha from India.
00:02:31He somehow manages to survive a surprise attack from an armed
00:02:35assailant in close quarters while flying a plane. But he's
00:02:39down and in a real bad way. One of the passengers,
00:02:43a dentist would later tell CNN. Much other suffered massive
00:02:47blood loss, was severely wounded. He was
00:02:50covered in cuts, his head,
00:02:52his hands, they were practically sliced
00:02:54open, almost severed in two.
00:02:56Historically when 1 pilot turns on the other. There are clear
00:03:00examples where this ends in disaster for everybody on board.
00:03:04In 2015, Germanwings flight 9525,
00:03:07the copilot locks the captain out of the cockpit when he
00:03:11leaves to use the bathroom. He then manually steers the plane
00:03:15into a rapid descent, crashing into the French Alps.
00:03:18Everybody on board dies. Or just a couple years before that,
00:03:23in 2013, same thing, except this time it's the
00:03:26captain on a flight from Mozambique who locks the
00:03:29copilot out of the cockpit. He crashes the plane into a
00:03:33National Park in Namibia, once again killing everybody on
00:03:37board. But this time, Captain Matcha survives the
00:03:40attack from his copilot and manages to do one other
00:03:43incredible thing that's single handedly triggers a series of
00:03:47events that keep that plane in the air.
00:03:55So imagine the copilot is believed to have attacked the
00:03:59captain with some sort of stabbing weapon,
00:04:02leaves him bleeding on the ground. I've seen multiple
00:04:06reports that he was so grievously wounded he was on
00:04:09the verge of passing out completely even that he did at
00:04:13one point, but just before he did he
00:04:16somehow unlocks the cockpit door. They redesigned airplanes
00:04:20to, in fact, create
00:04:22this impenetrable door between the cabin and the cockpit. That
00:04:25door remains locked from the incident. Problem with
00:04:29yesterday is that the threat did not come from the cabinet.
00:04:33This is the critical point at which the entire arc of this
00:04:36crisis pivots. It's where passengers begin to realize not
00:04:40just that something has gone terribly wrong,
00:04:43but that they can do something about it.
00:04:46The plane just started going up and down,
00:04:49says 1 passenger. We started hearing screams. The plane,
00:04:52according to those on board, nose dived at a sickening angle.
00:04:56Overhead bins popped open and luggage flew out. Other
00:05:00accounts spoke of incredible G forces almost pinning
00:05:03passengers to their seats as the plane itself plunged and
00:05:07leveled repeatedly. It was like the craziest Holocaust that you
00:05:11ever did, but like, multiplied by
00:05:14father. It felt like something really wrong is happening here.
00:05:18So for some passengers to have overcome this chaos and to have
00:05:22the instinct to burst into the cockpit to see what was wrong,
00:05:26Yet another incredible development,
00:05:29without which I don't know how this plane survives. Eventually,
00:05:33one man bursts in and grabs the assailant, the copilot,
00:05:37from behind. Yes,
00:05:41the first Beta beta message.
00:05:47That's one of the many heroes of this story. By all accounts,
00:05:51wrestling control of the plane from the alleged hijacker
00:05:55happened very quickly. The dentist I mentioned earlier,
00:05:58he says he tied the attacker up using headphone cords and
00:06:02plastic zip ties. He then started tending to the wounded
00:06:06pilot. He was in serious condition, not critical,
00:06:09perhaps, but serious due to the massive
00:06:12blood loss. And that would have looked like
00:06:16and a warn you this is the most graphic part of the story
00:06:19because it's at this point we have video of the state of the
00:06:23lanes captain as he's lying injured on the floor.
00:06:27But this was the scene you're looking at. 2 bloodied pilots
00:06:31on the floor on this passenger jet in mid air,
00:06:34passengers holding one of them down,
00:06:37treating the other. The reason I show that to you is because I
00:06:41want you to understand how unreal this all would have felt
00:06:45to everybody on board. And yet we have yet another improbable
00:06:49act from the very same passenger who claims to have
00:06:53subdued the attacker in the 1st place. He single handedly pulls
00:06:57the plane out of its nose dive.
00:07:00Uh,
00:07:02yeah.
00:07:05He would later reveal he learned that move from TV shows
00:07:08pulling on the pilot steering column,
00:07:11the yoke to pitch the planes nose up. They actually pull up
00:07:15the stick the the airplane stick. The plane was decreasing
00:07:18in very, very sharp angle. It is a
00:07:21tricky maneuver, you know, not normal or a commercial
00:07:24airliner to be in that flight position to be nose down at 600
00:07:28miles an hour. But even all this,
00:07:30as improbable as it all is put together,
00:07:33only leads to yet another impossible question.
00:07:37How do you land a plane when you have no pilot?
00:07:45In a normal emergency, if such a thing even exists,
00:07:49the pilot is doing more than just flying the plane and
00:07:52landing it. They are the planes eyes and ears,
00:07:55navigating weather patterns, how much fuel they've got left,
00:08:00and which runways are even available and safe. There was
00:08:04nothing but desert beneath US1 passenger told CNN. We feared
00:08:08being taken to an enemy country or landing in the middle of the
00:08:12desert. We didn't know who to trust. Now,
00:08:15if this were a Hollywood movie, the scripted stroke of luck
00:08:19here would be that someone on board is simply bold enough to
00:08:23do something like land a plane that they've never done before
00:08:27and it just happens to work out. But in real life,
00:08:31there just happened to be another set of pilots on board,
00:08:34an off duty British pilot along with another, together,
00:08:38a pair of relief pilots who were meant to fly the next
00:08:42flight
00:08:43was fortunate that they were on an airplane that had this extra
00:08:47deadheading crew, as we call it. You know,
00:08:50but to actually jump into a pilot seat when you've got
00:08:54another pilot next to you that potentially was suicidal and
00:08:58the captain of the aircraft neutralized as well was
00:09:02absolutely heroic action. Those 2 pilots took control of the
00:09:06plane, diverted to an airport not in
00:09:08Israel where they were originally going,
00:09:11but in nearby Saudi Arabia instead.
00:09:14Which interestingly is a country Israel has no formal
00:09:17diplomatic relations with, but that years ago did open its
00:09:21airspace. 2 passenger planes flying to and from Israel. So
00:09:26they had control of the plane and a safe runway to land on.
00:09:30But there was still one more problem. The plane was badly
00:09:34damaged. When I saw the images of the aircraft on the ground
00:09:38with the rudder section torn out,
00:09:40I immediately had a cold chill. If you've ever looked at the
00:09:44back of a plane,
00:09:46you know what that vertical tail looks like. But what's a
00:09:49little more subtle than that is the rudder,
00:09:51which is this movable flap that controls the side to side
00:09:55swinging of the lanes nose. It's basically stabilizing the
00:09:59plane. If you RIP that out, as you can see in these photos
00:10:02here of this fly Dubai flight shortly after emergency landing,
00:10:06you have two problems. 1 is that you're possibly bleeding
00:10:09hydraulic fluid out all over the place,
00:10:12which affects a whole bunch of other systems on the plane. But
00:10:16two,
00:10:17landing becomes more dangerous. Letters are the key element of
00:10:20aircraft stability, particularly at landing. And in
00:10:23this case the runner was not there. The airplane went
00:10:27through extensive aerodynamic shot. All of the experts I've
00:10:31heard on this believe it was the planes nosedive. We
00:10:34mentioned at the start that sudden steep descent that
00:10:38likely applied enormous aerodynamic forces to the tail,
00:10:41enough to RIP that part of the rudder right off. But somehow
00:10:45those two relief pilots
00:10:47managed to land the plane regardless,
00:10:53so now investigators have their work cut out for them. Why did
00:10:57this copilot hijack the plane, and what was he trying to do?
00:11:01Did he improvise the weapon he used,
00:11:03or did he smuggle it on board? And Speaking of getting on
00:11:07board, should intelligence or law
00:11:10enforcement officers have known to apprehend him before he got
00:11:14on that plane? Those answers will hopefully
00:11:17come with time, but all we know now is that
00:11:19this plane load of passengers somehow pulled off the
00:11:23impossible. The captain surviving A devastating attack,
00:11:27managing with his last sliver of consciousness to open the
00:11:30cockpit door, allowing passengers undergoing
00:11:33extreme G forces to storm that cockpit, subdue the attacker,
00:11:37pull the plane out of the nosedive just in time. And then
00:11:40they just happened to have a pair of pilots on hand who
00:11:44grabbed the controls, find a safe runway to land on,
00:11:47and manage to do so with a severely damaged rudder in a
00:11:51plane that no inspector would ever consider airworthy.
00:11:54I don't know what you call that, but as terrible and traumatic
00:11:59as it was for everyone involved, those folks undeniably got very,
00:12:04very lucky.
00:14:12What even is potash? Answer that question and you'll
00:14:14know how basically overnight, Trump went from boasting of a
00:14:18massive deal in the works to buy a whole bunch of potash
00:14:21from Belarus and for substantially less than we are
00:14:24currently paying to Canada, to suddenly saying, well,
00:14:28maybe we'll keep buying from Canada after all,
00:14:30he'll continue to go with Canada,
00:14:32but but Belarus would like to sell it for a much lower price.
00:14:36So which is it? Trump may sound like he's flip
00:14:39flopping any kind of is, but
00:14:41he's also putting his finger on a glaring American weakness.
00:14:45Because the US needs an outside source of potash to grow food,
00:14:49and Trump thinks he can mitigate that problem by
00:14:53undercutting the global juggernaut of potash, Canada.
00:15:01I can just show you what potash looks like. You mine it from
00:15:05the earth. It's a type of salt. But the core defining element
00:15:09of this salt, which makes it different from
00:15:11say, the table salt you season your
00:15:13food with, is that it's chock full of potassium.
00:15:17Potassium. I said it that way because potash is where
00:15:20potassium gets its name from. And two critical things to know
00:15:24about potassium 1. You do not just find pure potassium like a
00:15:28hunk of it in Nature, which Carlton University does a
00:15:31good job of explaining why. Potassium metal,
00:15:34like all metals that are in Group one of the periodic table
00:15:38that's down the left hand side are quite reactive with water.
00:15:42Boom, though, this burst into flame
00:15:45because the reaction between potassium and water releases
00:15:49hydrogen, and then the hydrogen gas is
00:15:51what explodes. So if you want potassium,
00:15:54you have to find it in very specific forms that won't
00:15:57explode by accident. But the second big thing to know about
00:16:01potash is that it is considered a critical mineral. Plants need
00:16:05potassium to grow. Every crop does. So almost all of the
00:16:08potash mine around the world eventually ends up as
00:16:12fertilizer because it's so potassium rich. Farmers know
00:16:15if you use it on your crops, you'll get better water
00:16:19retention, better disease resistance,
00:16:21better yields, better overall quality. And
00:16:24this is precisely why farmers globally spend billions of
00:16:28dollars a year on this stuff. So we can all eat. Now where do
00:16:32you find this critical mineral? The non explode kind. Chile,
00:16:36Germany, China and the US are all
00:16:38meaningful players in this space. Between them,
00:16:41there are hundreds of millions of tons of known potassium
00:16:45nutrient
00:16:47reserves. But where you'll find the most, there's Russia,
00:16:50with 12% of the world's reachable unmined supply. Its
00:16:53ally Belarus has an even larger share of this critical mineral,
00:16:58almost twice as much, but with a full third of the
00:17:01world's total reserves. Canada, America's closest ally,
00:17:05has more than a billion tons of potassium in the form of potash
00:17:09underground.
00:17:11It's also the world's most active miner and exporter of
00:17:15that potash, owning almost 40% of the
00:17:17international market today. We are a major,
00:17:20major player in this market, to the point where our potash
00:17:24exports are often priced in Canadian dollars rather than U.
00:17:28S. dollars. And not to put too fine a point on what I said
00:17:32about Canada being America's closest ally,
00:17:35but I'll say the US is incredibly dependent on Canada
00:17:38for all of its potash, and more specifically
00:17:41the potassic fertilizer you get out of it. the US imported from
00:17:46all sources 13 million tons of it last year,
00:17:49but almost 90% of that haul was from Canada. This is billions
00:17:53of dollars each year spent on a very precious product. And
00:17:57worth mentioning those whopping 50% tariffs Trump imposed on
00:18:01Canadian goods recently, Potash is exempt. Which should
00:18:05tell you one very important thing,
00:18:07that Trump does not want to make Canadian potash more
00:18:11expensive
00:18:13because he knows how badly American farmers need it. the
00:18:15US is very, very highly reliant on imported
00:18:18potash in order to meet our needs. So it's hard to describe
00:18:22how important that relationship is. The advantage for Canada
00:18:26when it comes to plot ashes or 3G's we've got there's geology,
00:18:29geography and sort of global distribution. It's true,
00:18:33Canada has basically everything the US needs. Vast reserves,
00:18:36expansive mining operations with new mines in the process
00:18:40of being built. This one is slated to begin
00:18:43production in 2027. Apparently as big as a city,
00:18:46Canada also has a well established production and
00:18:49delivery schedule, especially during critical
00:18:52planting seasons. And crucially, it has direct access to an
00:18:56expansive rail network able to carry product from Saskatchewan,
00:19:00where almost all of Canada's Potash's mind,
00:19:03across the border and into virtually every nook and cranny
00:19:06of the United States. But especially agricultural states
00:19:10in the northern Midwest like Indiana, Illinois,
00:19:13Iowa and Nebraska and Minnesota were the soil for intensive row
00:19:18crops like corn, soybeans and wheat need a
00:19:21constant topping up of potassium to keep yields high.
00:19:25And arguably now more than ever, American farmers rely on this
00:19:29efficiency and stability because they are, in 2026,
00:19:33contending with an undeniable pressure on their bottom lines.
00:19:37Fertilizer prices have been going up,
00:19:40and the US war in Iran has throttled global oil traffic,
00:19:44making the diesel that keeps farm equipment running more
00:19:48expensive and indirectly increasing the price of
00:19:51basically everything else that needs to be shipped anywhere.
00:19:55Not to mention Trump's trade war with Canada,
00:19:58where 50% tariffs on Canadians steel and aluminum can,
00:20:01for example, make buying a tractor or even
00:20:04simply sourcing replacement parts more expensive than it
00:20:07used to be. There's been an awful lot of large increases in
00:20:11the input costs of farming. So diesel is going up
00:20:1528% in the last year. We interest rates growing up,
00:20:19the price of new farm machinery is about 15 to 20%. So enter
00:20:23Belarus, where this post from the
00:20:25president starts to take on a different tone, right?
00:20:29A massive deal to buy potash from that country,
00:20:33one of the top producers of the mineral globally. He knows the
00:20:37US needs Canadian potash, like really needs it. And he's
00:20:41trying to diversify, questioning his
00:20:45Can he?
00:20:50When Trump decided he was going to nudge Belarus for a better
00:20:54deal on potash, the intention was always pretty
00:20:57clear that this was a move designed to undercut Canada's
00:21:01stranglehold on supply. And on a surface level,
00:21:04it makes sense to go with a potash powerhouse like Belarus.
00:21:08Except Trump himself would have immediately realized how
00:21:12difficult a pivot this would be. First,
00:21:15the US government doesn't even have a direct say
00:21:18in the matter. It doesn't negotiate prices. It doesn't do
00:21:22any bulk purchasing itself. That's between private business
00:21:26and farmers. But even if he were to try to create favorable
00:21:30conditions for Belarusian potash to enter the US market,
00:21:34the second problem is that this is Belarus we're talking about
00:21:38here, a political pariah, a close ally of Vladimir Putin,
00:21:42and a critical staging ground for Russia's troops during its
00:21:46initial invasion of Ukraine four years ago.
00:21:49If you've seen the headlines from Saskatchewan's premier
00:21:53about how potash from Belarus is blood potash,
00:21:56This is why the Lukashenko regime out of Belarus is
00:21:59instrumental in supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
00:22:04And again, terrible human rights record.
00:22:07So a large number of countries, including Canada and including
00:22:11the United States, have sanctioned Belarus. And
00:22:14those sanctions on Belarus really affect how competitive
00:22:18its potash can ever possibly be in the global marketplace
00:22:22because, for starters, it is a landlocked country.
00:22:25It's closest access to international shipping waters
00:22:29is north through Lithuania, except European sanctions on
00:22:32Belarus have closed this port
00:22:34off to them. And it gets worse. Those same sanctions have also
00:22:38shut down most alternatives, Poland, Latvia,
00:22:41and especially Ukraine also off limits. But let's say you could
00:22:45get around that problem by shipping through Russia,
00:22:48for example. There's a third problem,
00:22:51which is that we're still talking about a country nearly
00:22:5410, 000 kilometers away from the US
00:22:56by boat. In order to get the potash from Belarus,
00:22:59we have to go through sort of four major parts,
00:23:02shipping it to to Russia, getting it loaded
00:23:05ships, getting it to the US and then
00:23:08once in the US shipping it to sort of the Midwest. We have
00:23:11one step. We put it on a train and it's and it's there. The
00:23:15problem with potash in particular is that it's a
00:23:18relatively low value product compared to how heavy it is and
00:23:22how much space it takes up. These are bulk commodities.
00:23:26It's not like you're shipping diamonds or microchips where
00:23:30the cost to ship is offset by how efficient shipping is. So
00:23:34even if Belarus decided, let's say,
00:23:36to put all of its authoritarian state owned might behind potash,
00:23:40driving down the production cost at the potash mine itself
00:23:44on the other side of the world, American farmers aren't going
00:23:49to be moved by that if it's still costing an arm and a leg
00:23:53to ship that cheap potash halfway around the world. One
00:23:57analyst figures Canada's location helps it deliver
00:24:00potash at about a 35% discount compared to potash from Belarus.
00:24:05And another analyst
00:24:06comes to the same conclusion that a metric ton of potash
00:24:10from Belarus might cost $200 to a US farmer before profit
00:24:13margins compared to buying from Canada at a substantially lower
00:24:17$130.00 per metric ton. But let's say you figure out the
00:24:21first problem and give the US government a freer hand. You
00:24:25solve the second problem and remove international sanctions
00:24:28on Belarus. You even solve the third problem of shipping costs
00:24:32through subsidies or some kind of deal. You then still have
00:24:361/4 problem, which is that Belarus itself is
00:24:39signaling. I don't know if we have all that much potash to
00:24:43spare. They're shipping all of their potash E not to West,
00:24:47the western world, and that's been indicated to be
00:24:50the case. You remember how landlocked Belarus is and how
00:24:54it's potash can only really go in One Direction E through
00:24:58Russia? Well, it turns out that economic
00:25:00reality leaves China and other Asian countries as the only
00:25:04viable buyers. China alone buys almost 1/3
00:25:07of the potash Belarus exports. Which is not to say that
00:25:11Belarus couldn't switch clients to the US or boost production,
00:25:15but both are hard. One risks alienating a reliable customer,
00:25:19the other is slow and expensive. Because guess what?
00:25:22Canada is a reliable cost competitive supplier.
00:25:30So what explains then this roller coaster ride where
00:25:33everybody's wondering what on earth would possess Trump to
00:25:37think Canada's potash is replaceable by potash mind on
00:25:40the other side of the planet? Well, to be fair,
00:25:43I don't know if that's what he was ever saying. It's the same
00:25:47thing as what we're doing in regard to trade with the US,
00:25:50right? Yes, the US is looking for alternate
00:25:53suppliers. We're looking for alternate markets. We're both
00:25:57sort of playing
00:25:58two sides of the same coin here. the US knows it is in a
00:26:01vulnerable position. It is working to lift itself out of
00:26:05that position. It started earlier this year when in March,
00:26:09it lifted sanctions on two major potash companies in
00:26:13Belarus, Belarus, Cali and the Belarusian potash
00:26:16company. The Trump administration also made potash
00:26:19from Belarus legal to buy in America. And what timing?
00:26:23According to Argus Media, which watches commodity prices,
00:26:27the first Belarus cargo
00:26:28fertilizer to the US in four years, a 30,
00:26:31000 metric tons cargo of MOP, which is a specific kind of
00:26:36potash fertilizer. It's expected to arrive at New
00:26:40Orleans next month. Now, let's be clear. Canada's
00:26:44dominance in potash is not in jeopardy. This country is not
00:26:49replaceable to the US. But Canada also is not untouchable,
00:26:53because Trump isn't necessarily trying to push Canadian potash
00:26:58away,
00:27:00he's just trying to payless for it. And even if American
00:27:02farmers don't suddenly flock on mass to Belarusian potash,
00:27:06they now at least have the option to right?
00:27:09And that accomplishes one thing, it tells Canada If you still
00:27:13want American business, we at least want you to compete
00:27:17for it.
00:30:30where families continue to be torn apart by violence
00:30:33including two recent murders
00:30:35and a shooting at the historic Mile Zero Hotel.
00:30:38Who's going to clean up this town? You know, that's a good question.
00:30:42I'm very fearful for the future of this area. We investigate the violence
00:30:46to learn more about who is killing who and why.
00:30:49Why are so many people getting murdered in Dawson Creek?
00:30:53Because the drugs are rampant. Fucking rampant.
00:30:56Thirteen murders and counting,
00:30:58and a growing fear that comes with a warning: speaking out can get you killed.
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