Argentina: Crónica

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00:00:00that I mean to know that your daughter goes out with a guy who
00:00:04would be a thief, no, how do I say, the ordeal of
00:00:07a family, of that father who today, the ordeal of that father
00:00:10who today fights for his life, who has to mourn
00:00:14the death of his daughter, yes, he is already dead in life,
00:00:16same family who knows what he is already dead in life, the father, yes, yes, he is already
00:00:20dead in life, I also listened to the man, Nahuel greets you,
00:00:23I listened to the man, you have to listen to him, it's years and
00:00:26wisdom, that's drugs, lack of control,
00:00:30unfortunately everything got out of hand and so we go,
00:00:34but beyond this being a psychopath,
00:00:37how
00:00:39and and how do we do it, Diego, with that,
00:00:42nothing, this luck is crazy, whoever it touches, it touches them, we
00:00:46tell it, be there, be there, look, if you ask me personally,
00:00:50I'll tell you, look, the truth is that,
00:00:55is like this, like this, like this, like this," and what I'm not a security minister
00:00:56as the great savior of and unfortunately today there is such a degree of corruption in all the
00:00:59forces. and the entire state, that unfortunately I don't know if it
00:01:03is convenient not to give a solution to
00:01:04this,
00:01:07they could be resocialized, eventually to well, I don't know, we have to find a way because
00:01:11you can't live like this, you can't live like this, it's that the state
00:01:15defends criminals, no, every case we touch here, the
00:01:19state takes sides, it's not that it's neutral, look, witness,
00:01:22no, no, it protects criminals from the
00:01:26bunker, from the kid who commits a crime and a judge comes out to
00:01:30allow a habeas corpus and says no, send the kid home to drink chocolate
00:01:33because the conditions are not met for us to detain him,
00:01:37no, now the kid comes out with a weapon and shoots you, uh,
00:01:40you can do prevention and you can
00:01:43do other things as well, not just go to a police station to file
00:01:47a complaint and have them not take it or tell you you have to come back in 48
00:01:51hours, why all those things, negligence, it's called,
00:01:55a lot of things, negligence, we'll make it cheap for
00:01:58you. Lack of empathy with level, look, the
00:02:02other day I got angry, lack of empathy too, the other day I got angry
00:02:05when they arrested the couple who
00:02:08had three plants in the house, who
00:02:12had the rep, the reprocomam it's called, which was to make
00:02:15the oil for the autistic children,
00:02:19yes, uh, and you don't catch the narco, you catch that
00:02:22couple who was giving peace of mind to their son, well, yes,
00:02:26well, they look for scapegoats, they don't go up there,
00:02:31uh, and and well, but
00:02:34if we have to talk, we have to talk about another
00:02:38space, well, let's go, let's talk now, you
00:02:41know what the space above is like, what's your name, excuse me
00:02:45I didn't ask you,
00:02:47Darío, Darío, look, Darío, now we have to talk about this, not this
00:02:51brutal femicide, a femicide on the run
00:02:55these hours and being intensely sought, a girl who is no longer
00:02:58among us. who lost her life brutally
00:03:02years old, does it seem to you, 18 years old, a life
00:03:05yes, it had it, now what it brings, what ahead and a father who fights for his life, they took it from him, they ripped
00:03:08her life away, yes, they stole her life, information is coming in, uh, Darran,
00:03:12look, listen because the neighbors are writing, the
00:03:14family, uh, give me a second, Darío,
00:03:18uh, Gonza, I see you there, yes, uh,
00:03:21chatting hard, what happened? Yes, I'm talking precisely with a
00:03:25neighbor who at one time was a very good friend of Jorge, the one who is
00:03:29hospitalized. Here he clarifies to me that he is not the father, he is the
00:03:32stepfather of the victim, well, and he
00:03:35tells me that in past times, a couple of years
00:03:38ago, he would have been
00:03:41in jail for a while, he was in prison, but
00:03:45I'm checking it, he's telling me, obviously we are talking about the victim's stepfather,
00:03:49clearly, as his testimony that he was in prison a couple of years
00:03:52ago, who? The hospitalized person, the one who is, the person who is hospitalized who
00:03:55received two shots, the victim's stepfather, let's speak in
00:03:58víctima, emos en
00:04:00and you, Dieguito? And because of what potential just in case,
00:04:03as testimony here from the viewer who is equal, here there was an issue,
00:04:07equally he is a victim, uh, this victim, if the case is linked
00:04:10to something related, it is not known, obviously it was violence within the framework of
00:04:14gender violence, not what happened,
00:04:18I don't think it's a settling of scores or a
00:04:21dispute between the stepfather and this kid because
00:04:24the woman, the cataca, exactly, the 18-year-old girl
00:04:28afterwards. that is to say, he attacks the
00:04:31stepfather because obviously he came out in defense of the girl,
00:04:35pass on information to no, but I don't think it's something that goes beyond the framework of
00:04:37what gender violence is and it
00:04:40would make a former convict or a
00:04:44person a diplomat.
00:04:48After, clarify, Melany, the victim's cousin, please, she wrote to me here that she
00:04:52feels very bad, that's why she had to hang up the phone, that's very good and understandable,
00:04:55clearly, no problem. Jorge, what else do we have? Yes, we maintain
00:04:59this, Jorge's condition, hospitalized in the hospital, is
00:05:02delicate with the three shots we had talked about. We are talking about the
00:05:05woman who loses her life doing it in the showroom of that hospital, with a
00:05:09significant blood loss, it would have compromised an artery of... the neck,
00:05:13the only shot she receives. It must be remembered that in the scene,
00:05:17the aggressor gets out of a vehicle, the vehicle leaves the scene, this man
00:05:20approaches what would be the entrance to the property, talks to her, there is a
00:05:24exchange of words, there is a discussion, there is a physical altercation,
00:05:28it seems like a physical aggression, he pulls out the weapon, fires the
00:05:31shot at her, when Jorge, the father, hears this situation, he
00:05:35approaches the entrance, that's when he intervenes in that aggression that happened
00:05:38there, he receives three shots, two precise ones in the legs that...
00:05:42fracture, they compromise the bone structure of the body and
00:05:45then a shot in a part of the body, he is delicate, that is the information we
00:05:49have, they are working and they are working on the investigation to
00:05:53find the material perpetrator, uh,
00:05:56Fer, uh, tell me how everything is
00:05:58there,
00:06:01well, calmer now, uh, well, they just left, no,
00:06:04the police arrived, the one that comes with a motorcycle, I think, a group, uh,
00:06:08they arrived because there was some
00:06:12kind of... discomfort at some point when we were, when they were taking us from there,
00:06:15near the place,
00:06:19we send a big greeting to the head of Lambá in that area, Police
00:06:22Inspector Sanabria, a great guy,
00:06:25a great worker, so Julián, clearly,
00:06:29how can they not let the press work, so calm down, you'll be
00:06:32working in a few minutes, we'll have news regarding this femicide,
00:06:36we'll be right back, uh, yes, you have
00:06:38priority,
00:06:42with a plate, no, with a plate, breaking
00:06:44news,
00:06:52stupid justice, everyone is
00:06:55free,
00:06:58they laugh hard at us, hey, it's not
00:07:0210, but well, it's verbatim, no, they caused disturbances on a
00:07:05bus, they confronted the
00:07:08police and tried to take his weapon,
00:07:39they are bothering, they are drunk and they are bothering. He got them off and this
00:07:43happened,
00:07:50well, come on, let's do
00:07:53this here,
00:08:07talk
00:08:11at the beginning.
00:08:44Why do you think these things happen? Let's see, what do you think? Let's
00:08:48see, I'm going to start with Gonzalo, Gonzalo, why do you think this happens? First, because there is also impunity,
00:08:51a lack of respect for any type of authority that
00:08:55is presented. Well, you, Jorgito, why do you think? Because of the guarantor justice
00:08:59that sometimes doesn't realize that these things harm not
00:09:03only an individual but all of society
00:09:06and the issue that there is no firm hand in the
00:09:09law and in the enforcement of order,
00:09:13happened that he is free, imagine that
00:09:16policeman, what will he do next time? Will he act in
00:09:20this way or will he look the other way? Because first his life was
00:09:23at risk and second, he saw how they entered through one
00:09:27door and left through another, you know what the problem is for
00:09:30me? That the poor policeman, to save the
00:09:34two pesos and 20 cents he has, because they don't have
00:09:38a dime and they have to show their badge to travel for free, because if you are in
00:09:42civilian clothes like the policeman is and I don't show my badge, nobody knows I'm a
00:09:45policeman, so to save
00:09:48a ticket, I show my badge, they let me pass, but the bus driver, at
00:09:52any disturbance, tells me that something is happening,
00:09:56so he leaves you blank and you have to act, but
00:09:58well, it's supposed that in the line of duty he has
00:10:01to intervene, right, in the line of duty, three
00:10:04drunk people on a bus, I don't identify myself,
00:10:08if I pay the ticket, I don't identify myself, because at what point do you intervene?
00:10:15Let's see, I don't ask, I start asking for support by cell phone, wherever, why? Because
00:10:18you know that three people who are drunk on a bus with
00:10:22other passengers, if you identify yourself as...
00:10:25a policeman, a armed confrontation
00:10:28may break out or you may have to shoot and and and perhaps
00:10:31you kill an innocent person, so
00:10:34obviously what I do is directly not say that I'm a policeman,
00:10:38I pay my ticket and I continue, but I understand
00:10:41the policeman, uh, the policeman's trip costs him the same as
00:10:44any worker, they earn 800 thousand pesos, you understand,
00:10:47obviously he's going to ask for a dime, we are surprised that they were released
00:10:51so calmly after having tried to steal his
00:10:55weapon, which the policeman resisted, what would have happened
00:10:58no if effectively, the charge
00:11:01of resisting authority is more or less the same
00:11:04as it is more serious to steal a candy, let's see, look,
00:11:08there is Benjamin Ronco, a criminal lawyer, we had him on
00:11:11the phone, well, he has studied in detail, not the juvenile criminal
00:11:15regime, but well, he is also a criminal lawyer, you're laughing, Benjamin, good
00:11:18evening, with what Nahuel says, it was nothing, it was not
00:11:22a matter of smiling.
00:11:33Here is the state and justice that comes to give answers to a society that is looking for
00:11:36clearer security measures and to be able to live in peace, clear, the answer is
00:11:39continue, to put it in plain Spanish, yes, you have to see exactly the particular
00:11:43case, we criminal lawyers analyze this in
00:11:47detail each case, perhaps eventually take a
00:11:51broad decision for all
00:11:56cases in general, uh, it doesn't really require the precision needed when
00:11:58it comes to sentencing. Let's see, taking these cases that
00:12:02we are discussing and analyzing,
00:12:06well, eventually, yes, it's necessary for there to be a clear
00:12:10response, perhaps here, having such pristine
00:12:13images and having such conclusive evidence,
00:12:17well, one comes to the conclusion that it's necessary to do something, but on the street
00:12:20anyway, on the street, there are three drunkards, to put it badly and
00:12:24quickly, if they did it once, they'll do it again, uh, which is
00:12:27trying to rob him, this time it didn't work out, well, but if they know that
00:12:31they enter through one door and leave through the other, the problem is that if those shots he
00:12:35fired at the ground, hit him in a
00:12:38leg, that policeman is in jail, he's in jail,
00:12:42he loses his job, he's in jail, believe me,
00:12:44believe me, because they won't say he's numerically
00:12:48superior, no, no, no, they'll say,
00:12:52well, they're drunk, they don't know what they're doing, use verbal
00:12:55persuasion. nonsense nonsense, but if they take his gun, they'll
00:12:59kill him, justice for the criminal, but it's not that I defend the
00:13:02criminal, I believe that things must be clear, if you attack a policeman
00:13:06the consequences must be very serious, yes,
00:13:09obviously I'm talking about policemen, policemen,
00:13:12honest policemen, yes, because he's an honest guy, you
00:13:16calculate that if he has to show his badge to pass for free, these are guys who are not stealing at home, they are below
00:13:20the poverty line, well, clearly tolerate good police,
00:13:24tolerate. Uh, that three unruly
00:13:27drunkards uh, who want to take your weapon, who want to
00:13:31assault you and all the rest, and and the and and the penalty is
00:13:34well, assault and resisting authority, uh, see if
00:13:38he has a record, if he has no record, fine, let him go, and well, buddy,
00:13:41they will do the same thing tomorrow because they didn't have a consequence, clearly
00:13:45they are hitting on a fundamental point of the matter.
00:13:48Let's see, we, uh, as a federal
00:13:52criminal system, what we establish as a country and as a society, is imprisonment for
00:13:55the purpose of rehabilitating people, precisely,
00:13:59so here there is a dichotomy between
00:14:02re-socialization and recidivism, which are two words that have
00:14:06similar roots, but very different consequences, so
00:14:09if we propose that sentences of imprisonment and
00:14:13incarceration have re-socializing purposes, how
00:14:16can we, uh, maintain, and it is something that is already established in society, that
00:14:20eventually whoever commits a crime once, very probably will commit it again,
00:14:24so. Definitely there is the issue that we must address, that
00:14:28it is necessary for there to be regulation and that there are necessary conditions for
00:14:32the constitutional regulation to be fulfilled,
00:14:35that the re-socialization of people is
00:14:39effectively carried out. Let's see, that's all
00:14:42great, why isn't it allowed in all
00:14:46penitentiary units, for example, to have a system like the Spartans,
00:14:49no, why don't they allow it? Why can there be
00:14:52some place, yes, others not? The. The one
00:14:56in San Martín, for example, the Spartans are a tiny
00:14:58group, it's not the three units that are inside,
00:15:02well, here we have to differentiate two issues
00:15:06that are different, uh, on the one hand,
00:15:10there is the regulation of the Federal Penitentiary Service, which
00:15:14has its own jurisdiction and judges do not have
00:15:16incidence properly regarding
00:15:19accommodation measures and different issues that can be carried out within a
00:15:22prison, it would be questionable.
00:15:25of a judge who forces the penitentiary service, for
00:15:29example, the transfer of a detainee to a place where the same
00:15:32penitentiary service says no, I cannot receive more people here, so
00:15:36it would be aggravating the... situation of the detainee, therefore these are issues that
00:15:39cannot be directly related to magisterial division,
00:15:43but directly to a decision that comes from the penitentiary service that
00:15:47has a whole regulation and a whole different operation, let's go for the other
00:15:51side, not for the other vertex of this story that has to do with the police, did you have to
00:15:54defend policemen, let's say, who, convinced of
00:15:58acting in the legitimate
00:16:00use of their weapon, of their
00:16:03function, ended up detained?
00:16:07Yes, yes, it has happened to me, it has happened to me also, besides, I even come
00:16:10from the judicial school, for 15 years I worked in the judiciary, so I also
00:16:14participated in cases where these types of issues were dealt with, the important thing here is
00:16:18to understand what are the duties, the faculties of each member of the police,
00:16:22eh, regardless of whether they are on duty or not,
00:16:26there are different consequences for what are these, let's say,
00:16:29civilian people, so these are issues to be dealt with very
00:16:33carefully and to pinpoint exactly each particular case.
00:16:37These are issues that end up being decided based on details, so, but
00:16:41they feel, I imagine, I am a policeman, I see how these three
00:16:44criminals who were one step away from stealing my weapon and shooting
00:16:48me, because I don't think they wanted to steal the weapon to go sell it on the corner, no,
00:16:52evidently there was an intention to attack the
00:16:55helpless policeman because justice does not
00:16:58back him up, because he takes the bus and has to ask
00:17:02to get on the bus for free, that is, his bosses
00:17:06don't protect him either because they don't pay him enough, the guy is alone, I
00:17:09think next time he says, "I'm not going to risk it," that is, I get on the
00:17:13bus and let the three drunkards sort it out, you mean more
00:17:16subtle, I cannot understand how there are police
00:17:20personnel who live in emergency neighborhoods,
00:17:23I know a lot, that's true, I know a lot,
00:17:26living in an emergency neighborhood, you know what that means for a
00:17:30policeman, turn a blind eye to a lot of things because he has his
00:17:33family, clear. Well, look, uh, here Agustín
00:17:37has a case that is emblematic of the time we
00:17:41are going through, uh, let's go with a plate,
00:17:44come on,
00:17:45breaking news, 13
00:17:50minutes, to 10 o'clock at night, we've been talking
00:17:54about this for a long time, no, poor police versus
00:17:58juvenile delinquents,
00:18:00all the problems came together in the salad bowl, they are all together,
00:18:03uh, police from. A minor tried to rob him and
00:18:08killed him, look at all the issues that
00:18:12this case encompasses, the driver was a police
00:18:15sub-lieutenant he
00:18:19is
00:18:24with all the information Jorge, exactly, 15 years old, this young man who
00:18:28was together with another delinquent who fled the
00:18:31scene, this young man tries to commit the illicit act against this
00:18:34sub-lieutenant from the complex investigations area. from
00:18:37Tuzangó, this man, well, uh, he gives the command to stop, he was
00:18:41working as an application driver in the area of
00:18:45Abdalah in what would be the San Alberto neighborhood, west zone of the Greater
00:18:48Buenos Aires. He gives the command to stop, he fires two accurate shots,
00:18:51one of the delinquents falls wounded, he, as a
00:18:54humanitarian gesture, picks him up because he realizes that he was a person
00:18:58of small build and could be a minor. He takes him to the
00:19:01Balestrini hospital, where he enters the showroom but the doctors
00:19:05can no longer do anything for the health of this young delinquent who moments before tried to
00:19:08rob this sub-lieutenant who was working in his
00:19:12free hours as an application vehicle
00:19:15driver. Uh, the shot at the minor, where did it go, how
00:19:19is it? Were they in the car? Were they out of the car? How
00:19:23was he intercepted in Abdalah and Gaboto, uh, by these delinquents,
00:19:26apparently either there was a call in which they requested that vehicle for that area
00:19:30or at some point he had to slow down because it is a difficult area
00:19:34to travel through due to the condition of the streets and in this case also
00:19:38the night. Well, these young people approach him at
00:19:41gunpoint, when he feels numerically overwhelmed and
00:19:44with a firearm, he gives the command to stop, an exchange of
00:19:48shots occurs, the deceased delinquent has at least the preliminary
00:19:52information we have, two shots in the body and well, as I
00:19:56was just saying, he loses his life in the hospital's showroom
00:19:59given that this policeman puts him in his own
00:20:02car, badly wounded, and takes him to the Balestrini hospital, where he
00:20:06enters the emergency room but they can no longer do anything for him, yes,
00:20:10uh, what I understood, just to Divito,
00:20:14ah,
00:20:17yes, uh, I understand that one of the shots is in the chest and another in the
00:20:21head, something like that, something like that would be the chest, the torso, because he
00:20:25approaches, he approaches the passenger door, exactly, they board him from
00:20:29one side, one from one side, the other from the other, exact, the
00:20:32driver, uh, went to look for a ride, the
00:20:35address that Jorge tells us.
00:20:39and through the driver's window,
00:20:43uh, this minor appears,
00:20:46that's what is declared,
00:20:50and and he points a pistol at him, that
00:20:53generates a struggle and during the struggle, the police
00:20:57officer opens fire, firing a shot in the chest, another in the
00:21:00head, and of course, the neighborhood comes down on
00:21:04the police officer, uh, they force him to load him and
00:21:08take him to the hospital, uh, which is what he does, and another person
00:21:11obviously flees, yes,
00:21:15uh, Dieguito, was this minor
00:21:19known? Had he had any other incident?
00:21:22Uh, we are checking the records,
00:21:26yes, uh, I believe that there was, there is
00:21:29a list, yes, uh, days before there was
00:21:33a report of an
00:21:37Ecoboost robbery,
00:21:39and the victim says, "Uh, the person
00:21:45they do is a few meters from where that
00:21:49pickup truck was found dead, that
00:21:52this kid was found, clear, let's see, nothing,
00:21:55he's still 15 years old, they identified him
00:21:58and and obviously it was clear, he can't even be named, he can't
00:22:02be named, not for being a minor, no, Benjamin, he can't
00:22:05be trained at this point, at this point, yes,
00:22:09because he already passed away,
00:22:11yes, upon passing away, he stopped being a person, no, not for
00:22:15an ethical reason, we are not going to name him, yes, but you are
00:22:18able to show the name because he is no longer among
00:22:22us, so the law is what when you are
00:22:26alive, if identity is protected, but the
00:22:28person, upon not existing in this terrestrial
00:22:32plane, uh, we would be in a position, but not
00:22:35really, yes, it adds up, yes, now what
00:22:38benefit did this judge give him? All the
00:22:41minors, he didn't give them 60 days as a
00:22:45bonus, a third chance to keep
00:22:47committing crimes,
00:22:49yes, in in reality, uh, the judge's decision was
00:22:52quite controversial, I understand that she is
00:22:55occupying an important space in the media now, mainly because of
00:22:59this suspension, now, uh, we have to take into
00:23:02account some specific details regarding this new juvenile criminal
00:23:06regime, uh, it brings many novel issues, some were
00:23:09celebrated, others perhaps maintain to a certain extent the
00:23:12paradigm that had been upheld since 1980, the reality
00:23:16is that, uh, among the interesting things that this new law
00:23:20establishes, a cap for
00:23:24sentences, uh, towards juvenile
00:23:28offenders of 15 years, it eliminates life
00:23:31imprisonment, which is something that was already quite relegated from the Mendoza
00:23:34ruling of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights, and to a certain extent it came
00:23:38to amalgamate, to standardize a
00:23:42little bit what all the laws and all the rulings that understood this
00:23:45way regarding this issue, uh, the truth is that it is
00:23:49a much-awaited law, all political parties, for many
00:23:52years, sat down to discuss this law, sat down to see eventually how
00:23:56the juvenile criminal regime could be improved, and the truth is that after so many years that
00:24:00Congress, both chambers, approved
00:24:02it, that it now comes with a new suspension, leaves a
00:24:06bitter taste, so to speak, it achieved the opposite effect, the only thing it achieved
00:24:10so far is that many who were minors at the time and were sentenced to
00:24:13more than 15 years, due to the more lenient criminal law, were released,
00:24:17clearly. Because the law, the more lenient criminal law, sets a limit of 15 years when
00:24:21before there was none, no, let's see, I
00:24:24say, and not far from defending the judge, because you
00:24:27know what my opinion is, my opinion for me,
00:24:30a crime of greater penalty, of greater,
00:24:34I don't care, for you the decision is good, it doesn't
00:24:38validate a request that happens, no, what happens is that you have to understand something,
00:24:41guys, one thing is the political circus that serves
00:24:44a lot, let's ask for a trial, a Yuri, his prosecution seems like a
00:24:48whole boat, yes, they didn't ask for it today, it's already
00:24:50ordered, but after he leaves, Santi leaves,
00:24:54I get the politician
00:24:57to talk when the guys never did
00:25:00anything, never anything, they've been in government for 40 years, all of them, and
00:25:03nobody now raises this flag, why not,
00:25:07let's see, it's Alfaro, Roca,
00:25:10Agote, it's always the same ones, always the same
00:25:13detention centers or custody for a
00:25:17security measure for juvenile delinquents. but you didn't
00:25:21add any, you didn't expand it, you didn't make
00:25:24trained places to be able to reinsert that kid, you know
00:25:27what the kids tell you when they enter the institute, the first thing they throw a
00:25:31knife on the floor, yes, as soon as they enter they throw a knife on the floor, they start to
00:25:35fight, yes, a knife, they call it
00:25:37charraca,
00:25:39whatever you call it, a blade, it doesn't matter, and they start to fight, the entry course
00:25:42is the sneakers, the clothes, that is, you
00:25:46expect them to come out rehabilitated, no, you'll never come out,
00:25:50to this foundation led by Father Pepe, this
00:25:53association presents this habeas corpus
00:25:56saying there are no places, let's say, that respect
00:25:59human rights that.
00:26:05Look, this is more social than penal, I've always said
00:26:09the same thing, because if I catch a 12-year-old, 13-year-old
00:26:13delinquent and I send him back to the
00:26:18he does, that he's involved in crime, that he brings a
00:26:21Play, that he brings money, that he has the most expensive sneakers, that
00:26:25he brings cell phones,
00:26:27family of, if you let that kid go back to that
00:26:31nucleus, you expect him to come out of it, well,
00:26:34coincidentally, this is the core of the judge's decision,
00:26:38the judge from Zamora, it has to do with the implementation of the law, it's not so much about the
00:26:41substance, she doesn't discuss the issues related to the minimum age of
00:26:44imputability and so on, but rather how this new regime is implemented, well
00:26:48this regime brings as a novelty a change of paradigm,
00:26:52a limit is placed on what is the
00:26:55tutelary justice where the state came
00:26:59the deviant youths. of the
00:27:02kids who couldn't be brought back to the right path, so they eventually came to stop them
00:27:06to take them to an institution so that
00:27:10reinvent themselves in society, and now what this law has is a more
00:27:13restorative approach, it seeks for young delinquent convicts
00:27:17to eventually explore an alternative
00:27:21measure to the sentence so that they can eventually understand the
00:27:25consequences of their actions, repair the damage and eventually be able
00:27:29to understand what the limit of their behavior is. based
00:27:32on what is not just imprisonment, it doesn't encourage
00:27:36imprisonment, quite the opposite, in fact this law gives space to the
00:27:40victim that not many laws within the national territory have,
00:27:43it is novel in that sense, all the issues related to
00:27:47decisions that are of early release, of reparation for the
00:27:50damage, the victim is always heard, but how do we
00:27:54solve that when
00:27:57today kids of 11, 12 years old are
00:28:00immersed in the world of. trafficking, for example,
00:28:04working as lookouts, satellites, they are part of the
00:28:08chain, uh, and and we all know it, how
00:28:11do you make that kid able
00:28:14to reinsert himself again, if you know he goes back to the same place,
00:28:18well, let's separate two different
00:28:21definitions, one thing is that minors, let's say
00:28:25a minimum age of imputability at the age you want, uh, can be
00:28:29considered responsible for an act,
00:28:32or can be condemned, here when we talk about imputability we say that we cannot
00:28:36apply a penalty, anyway there are minors who were this
00:28:39let's say designated as people who committed a
00:28:42crime, but they cannot be punished, but coercive
00:28:46measures can be taken, behavioral measures that eventually
00:28:50help that child who is not punishable, but who can eventually
00:28:53reinsert himself into society or can abstract himself from an
00:28:56environment that is harmful to him through a judge's decision, that
00:29:00is the tutelary part.
00:29:02Well, but the juvenile criminal court already had that tool, yes,
00:29:08it brings is for more serious issues or issues
00:29:11also of medium severity, let's say, it brings
00:29:15alternative measures to what is reclusion the presistence, I don't know, they
00:29:19take away their playstation, what is the, there is this, let's say, a scale that
00:29:22goes from admonition warning to detention, what is
00:29:25admonition, admonition is is a
00:29:28judicial decision, it's not a simple matter that
00:29:31it's just a decision that the judge makes and externalizes
00:29:35like a father scolding his child, but rather it's a judicial
00:29:38decision where it's established that a
00:29:41person, in this case a young person, committed a
00:29:45crime, they are accused, a responsibility trial is held, that
00:29:49admonition is issued, eventually that is recorded so that eventually in the future
00:29:52if something similar happens again, that prevailing record remains, it's not something
00:29:55innocuous, it's something that resembles, to bring it down to
00:29:59reality, we have one more case, uh, that we would like to analyze with you.
00:30:08Breaking news
00:30:20new law but nothing has changed
00:30:23guys
00:30:25the juvenile criminal law is little
00:30:27or nothing useful, we don't know,
00:30:30why by killing him,
00:30:43what is this, Jorge, Villavoz, northeast conurban area, a
00:30:47young man leaving high school is approached by two criminals, but
00:30:51just at that moment, a police officer, a police officer present, off
00:30:54duty, without the need to intervene, gives the order to
00:30:57stop, pursues them, chases them, they go to...
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