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00:00:00I mean, no, he wasn't a political journalist. I think the
00:00:03relationship with Javier Miley, because Javier Miley wasn't a
00:00:07politician, a member of the entertainment world, joining the show
00:00:09uh, Milera, a character
00:00:15and oxygenation, I don't know if throat, you know, and it happens to from the entertainment world, not from politics, he becomes president, obviously that transforms the character.
00:00:18So I think Chiche's relationship was with the entertainment
00:00:21character, and then with the president he didn't have him anymore because Chiche didn't have
00:00:25relationships with presidents because his job wasn't
00:00:29to put it that way. He didn't want to win the Pulitzer, Chiche didn't
00:00:33you didn't expect, want to be a member of the National Academy of Journalism, Chiche wanted to be
00:00:36popular and he succeeded,
00:00:39obviously with growth, but if they are different objectives,
00:00:43he is not I am sure he knew very few, very few
00:00:46presidents, while most presidents, political journalists
00:00:50know all presidents, of course, that was not his, that was not his
00:00:53objective, I think in the case of my law it's because
00:00:56he empathized in that attitude.
00:01:00The off-center attitude that my law had, that he was a character from the
00:01:03entertainment world, not politics, before entering politics, exactly, yes, but
00:01:06after that interview where
00:01:09newsroom full of Chiche had asked him about issues of price, inflation, Milain got very angry, to put it in context,
00:01:14Normita, what did Jorge and Chiche ended up calling my law a madman
00:01:17in recent times, no,
00:01:19said he was a vegan and didn't eat meat and those regarding his presidency, well, he was before, nothing more than he
00:01:23classified him there, he was if nobody is at a certain moment something
00:01:27so different from what it was before, no, but it's there. you're putting
00:01:30yourself, that is, the clash is because Chiche kept
00:01:34interviewing the member of the entertainment world with the same impertinence and now the
00:01:37president was not the same man who was there, Jorge, thanks to that
00:01:41interview with Chiche today, several boys and girls owe him educational
00:01:44vouchers because in that interview he mentions
00:01:48the topic of education and my law comes out
00:01:51to invent a program that was not yet implemented.
00:01:54Well, not
00:01:57you instinctively, to say, implemented, but the vouchers had been announced in the campaign, right? Yes, but it's not implemented. And my law took it as a
00:02:01fact, so obviously the interview leaves him quite
00:02:05stumbling and he has to come
00:02:08At some point he spoke about out and do something very quickly, not that, and obviously also the issue of pensions, housewives,
00:02:12he always defended housewives very much and that's why I think he was the
00:02:15only one who spoke well of Lilita Carrió, he always threw
00:02:19her a center with the issue that she had been one of the
00:02:23impulses, he was a journalist concerned
00:02:26not about power but about people, journalists... naturally
00:02:31have their focus on power, on people
00:02:35who change the lives of other
00:02:38people, and Chiche was a person who was
00:02:40focused on common people, so
00:02:44that was Chiche's strong point,
00:02:46coincidentally these two issues you mention are not a coincidence, he wasn't talking about
00:02:50macroeconomics or that the dollar was undervalued,
00:02:53a clear example, Chiche's
00:02:56uh, let's see, look at focus, Chiche's great capacity was
00:02:58centered on his intuition,
00:03:02civic sensitivity, that's what he always
00:03:05had, at his age, I think you might agree, Jorge, he spoke
00:03:09of a guy with empathy, of
00:03:11understanding what people were
00:03:27about the
00:03:28shoes, I even issue of Chiche being Chiche, you
00:03:31said, no, today perhaps this journalism was
00:03:34replicated in other television programs, it was
00:03:37copied, but Chiche 40 years
00:03:41ago was also the same Chiche that we saw today doing
00:03:45an autopsy on an extraterrestrial,
00:03:48doing things that were really crazy for television,
00:03:51they were crazy for different media,
00:03:55tell me a little about that time, how it was to
00:03:58experience that Chiche, that young Chiche, a
00:04:02paradigm in journalism for me, but
00:04:26I agree that there was
00:04:29always that eccentric position, he always
00:04:32looked, as they say, outside the box,
00:04:36uh, he was not
00:04:37memories, also, one of formatted uh by the
00:04:41conditions of possibility of each of the spaces, he always
00:04:45stretched the conditions of possibility of each of the
00:04:48spaces, uh, and in that resided his
00:04:51singularity, he was always singular, he was always
00:05:13passed because we are seeing it, it's a photograph in a
00:05:16newsroom clearly, uh, describe the moment please,
00:05:20Jorge, well, that was Chiche Director of the week, he was less than
00:05:2330 years old, and
00:05:26we are in the newsroom, he was
00:05:30he took us,
00:05:32he was a generation older than us, he took us all different amounts of years,
00:05:3610, 15, 20 years in what
00:05:40we formed the newsroom, we were very young. He was a
00:05:43master in that circumstance and as you see him in his
00:05:47pose he was a kind of orchestra conductor,
00:05:50eh he always had
00:05:52eh an elegance that
00:05:56distinguished him always a
00:05:58detail he was fired from Gente magazine
00:06:02because he always fought with Somos magazine and
00:06:05they would make
00:06:08jokes from one newsroom to the other and the last
00:06:12thing he did, which I think was the reason for his dismissal, is that when
00:06:15those from Somos magazine arrived at the Atlántida newsroom, they
00:06:19found the entire
00:06:22prawns
00:06:25and on the floor and champagne wetting the
00:06:29chairs, no, so it didn't dirty the
00:06:31newsroom with the message, it was always
00:06:35he was a person
00:06:36uh
00:06:39I could say joyful in the absolute sense.
00:06:48when most journalists, uh, more, uh, uh, renowned, on the contrary, are circumspect, no, that's why
00:06:51we have to place each one in that taxonomy with what each one has to
00:06:55contribute, journalism is a beautiful, wonderful position and it has
00:06:58multiple facets in which we can fulfill our
00:07:02mission and serve the public. Chiche had
00:07:05that, no, that is, he was continuously joyful and
00:07:09continuously focused. He used to see most people, Jorge
00:07:20course it is difficult for our colleagues
00:07:24on air, you also at some
00:07:27point to hold back tears, no, I'll stick with that
00:07:30fun Chiche, that Chiche who filled you with
00:07:34anecdotes, who taught you, who reprimanded you,
00:07:37eh, or who brought you into different
00:07:41projects. I can't help but glance at the
00:07:44screen at a journey through Chichi's journalistic
00:07:47and personal life, no, at a moment when I see
00:07:51Sofi in Qatar, no, this is the playful Chiche, we can
00:07:55say it that way, you are showing a credential, you are showing
00:07:58something, we also fought in Qatar,
00:08:01constantly, you fought in Qatar too, a lot of
00:08:04personality but with a very particular humor he
00:08:08had and with Leo too and with Chelo we lived with Marcelito
00:08:12of course.
00:08:44We bid farewell to Chiche at Loyola
00:08:481139,
00:08:52at 3 p.m., last
00:08:55farewell at the Tablada
00:08:58cemetery.
00:09:05Well, there's the address for anyone who wants to join and say
00:09:09goodbye to Chiche, our beloved Chiche, they can do it, no.
00:09:12I, 1139, and if not at the Tablada cemetery, there they can
00:09:16at 3 p.m. they can say their last goodbye too,
00:09:19accompany the family, those of us who will be there
00:09:22surely, uh, he gave
00:09:28the tie he gave me, very well, one day I complimented
00:09:31his tie because you said he was very elegant, it's true, he always wore
00:09:35something elegant and smelled of a spectacular perfume,
00:09:38impeccable.
00:09:42He should have given him some cufflinks because he also praised those things, he always had a
00:09:46touch of class, it's true, two messages, Gastón, and he calls us on
00:09:49the mobile with 53 43 49 44, the
00:09:53people keep sending tremendous messages, look at this girl's
00:09:55name, well, Rochi, a legend of journalism is
00:09:59gone, I'm 24 years old, they saw when they say that kids don't
00:10:03pay attention to old journalists anymore, well, 24 years old, she listens, she says
00:10:07I grew up watching him, the truth is that no one has the vibe he had,
00:10:10goodbye Chiche forever.
00:10:25and experiences, no, with Chiche precisely because they were his
00:10:28colleagues, now what happens with the people who
00:10:31are at home and that Chiche entered their home every
00:10:35day, no, that in some way he
00:10:38was the company of those people, no, well, we are with
00:10:41Norma, she is from Corrientes, eh,
00:10:44she declares herself a fan of Chiche, no, because you followed
00:10:48him for many years, you liked his interviews very much, his
00:10:52live appearances, you learned a lot of things too. No
00:10:55Norma, that's right, I learned
00:10:58many things, he kept me company, I especially
00:11:02came to I would have liked more to
00:11:06meet him personally and not this way, but well, it's a
00:11:10way to be here, to
00:11:12send a lot of love to his family and tell them that I loved Chiche very much
00:11:16and that I admired him, that in my
00:11:19town he was seen
00:11:22followed him so unfortunately,
00:11:26I feel at this moment having to come here to
00:11:29say goodbye, so to speak, but well, uh, I wanted
00:11:33to tell Chiche that I loved you very much in some
00:11:36way,
00:11:39you like about Chiche, what did you, what
00:11:42did you think was the best thing about Chiche
00:11:44Helblum, his way of
00:11:46interviewing, ah, his humor, come on, come on, Normita,
00:11:50come on,
00:11:52yes, I liked his humor uh. his way of being, his
00:11:56his things, uh,
00:11:58how he said things, as they should be, so to speak, uh, he was
00:12:02direct and well, I liked that, yes, you became
00:12:05a fan because you discovered him on radio
00:12:08or in print or on Crónica on
00:12:12television, did you inherit him from your family, from your mom, from your
00:12:15dad,
00:12:18no, no, I always watched him on Crónica, because in
00:12:22my town Crónica is watched a lot, yes. I'm
00:12:25from a town in Montes Caseros, Corrientes,
00:12:27so
00:12:32I admired him, I spent hours watching him and
00:12:36laughing and well I also learned, no, because he was very
00:12:40wise, uh-huh, he was very intelligent,
00:12:43knowledgeable, a man with
00:12:46a lot of audacity, right, that's how we can define
00:12:48Norma,
00:12:51yes, he was different, a different one, truly.
00:12:55Well, this,
00:12:58unfortunately you have to say goodbye this way, no,
00:13:02this, there are many people who come to Avenida Garay 140 to meet Chiche,
00:13:06to take a picture with Chiche, eh, this happens
00:13:09to you at the worst of times, no, Normita, but it's interesting,
00:13:13also if you want to leave a flower, each
00:13:15one, but I'm very
00:13:18grateful,
00:13:21uh, anyway for being here close to me. I was coming
00:13:25from work, hmm, I had some mate, I found out and I said
00:13:29no, I have to go because well, in some way I have to
00:13:32be there, what did you do, on Sundays you watched Crónica for
00:13:35Chiche, every Sunday you watched
00:13:37Chiche,
00:13:40yes, now on Sundays no, because here he usually appeared
00:13:43on Sundays, but during the week
00:13:47yes, when he was at noon you mean, well, I was attentive when he was at
00:13:51noon at 12, yes, I was attentive, sure, sure, yes,
00:13:56he was on different channels, no, I yes, sure, you never had
00:14:00the chance to approach a radio or one of the
00:14:03channels to ask for a photo, you didn't
00:14:05dare
00:14:08uh, the thing is I've been working here for 8 months, oh, just recently,
00:14:11right, right, just recently.
00:14:15No, how nice the messages, uh, from the people who don't go to the political channel, not
00:14:19political, this different sector of society
00:14:22who wouldn't tell you, take a picture of me, I'm telling you because we were always
00:14:26next to him, with Sofi, take a picture of me with Chiche, it was having
00:14:30a picture with Chiche, it was hugging someone from
00:14:33journalism, someone important, no, we thank you
00:14:36very much, Facu, thank you very much for this contact, uh, Patricia
00:14:40Bullrich is connected at this moment, uh, hello
00:14:44Patricia, good morning, the whole real-time team greets
00:14:47you, yes, how are you, very sad about
00:14:50the a character, a genius.
00:14:55A person who had journalism in his soul
00:14:58and I always had a special relationship with him, why?
00:15:02Always when I went and because every time I went to the channel he
00:15:06told me you are a strange character, you are a politician who
00:15:10is kind of outside the others in these own votes he
00:15:14always told me and every time there was an election in which
00:15:17I had a role and he told me you see I told you I
00:15:21warned you I feel it in the street so we had a very
00:15:24very close relationship and well, whenever he
00:15:27invited me I went,
00:15:30uh, I have been to all his formats, how many years have you known
00:15:34Chiche Patricia, and what do I know, I don't know. We can
00:15:37say 35 years, something
00:15:40like that, eh, a long time, no, because
00:15:44he came and went with political programs and with programs
00:15:48where he had debates,
00:15:51eh, he and Mauro were like the first ones who
00:15:54debated, no, yes, sure, yes, yes, yes, Patricia, what
00:15:58did you face when you knew that you had an interview with Chiche,
00:16:02well, questions out of the box, no,
00:16:06eh, suddenly, suddenly he would come up with a question that
00:16:11that was totally about something else, no, and he would
00:16:14come up with totally disruptive questions, so it was very
00:16:17interesting because you had to be very sharp because
00:16:21if you went with the cassette that you sometimes have in your head and the things you always
00:16:24answer, well, with him you
00:16:27couldn't because he would always ask you an outside question as
00:16:31if to say uh he would come up with different
00:16:35things, do you like dogs he would say.
00:16:44Yes, of course, do you cook and what is your favorite
00:16:47food with things like that, well, but after that came the
00:16:50worst, no, I see, after that came the worst question after that
00:16:54Patricia, you know that too, yes, but
00:16:57always with good vibes, never with malice, you know, in fact
00:17:00Patricia, on Sunday we had the opportunity to have him here,
00:17:04Chiche, eh, yes, and he spoke. And
00:17:08he spoke about retirees in particular and
00:17:11he said that they couldn't keep beating
00:17:15up retirees on Wednesdays, I wish you had heard
00:17:18Patricia because he took 3 minutes
00:17:21of his program to talk directly about that and to
00:17:25say that that couldn't keep happening,
00:17:28but that doesn't happen, that doesn't happen, no, it doesn't, no,
00:17:31no, well, too bad I couldn't talk to him, he's already gone.
00:17:35And well, I say it because
00:17:39I think Chiche wanted to leave a message that Sunday, if
00:17:42not he would say it uh hopefully, well, they can
00:17:46review it, surely, yes, of course, that
00:17:48is, uh nowadays every Wednesday and
00:17:52now that I'm in the Senate I see it more and more calmly
00:17:55uh more and more coexistence
00:17:59and and more and more, well, things like this, no, that
00:18:02perhaps the people who go are more activists, younger
00:18:06people. Uh, but each time with more coexistence, I
00:18:10ask you, I got hooked on something you just answered and
00:18:13we talked with great journalists and
00:18:17media entrepreneurs, Daniel, Adad, Jorge Contevequia, among
00:18:20others, and he said that they said that Chiche was not
00:18:24a political journalist, but that he was a great interviewer of
00:18:28politicians and you just left something, no, this
00:18:31in your definition of this
00:18:34out-of-the-box question, at some point he gave you advice when
00:18:38the camera light went out after the interview or in the middle of the interview, I don't
00:18:42know, he was a giver of advice and
00:18:44always and you took it, did he give you any
00:18:47advice, yes, he always gave me advice, he always told me you continue
00:18:51on your path, you, uh, you have
00:18:55your own votes, you don't mix with others, you continue on your
00:18:58path, he told me, he always told me the same
00:19:02sometimes my husband would accompany me and he would tell me, you know that uh your wife
00:19:06has her own votes? Uh, I feel it on the street,
00:19:09he always told me, in the federal capital, you walk around here in the city,
00:19:13so he told me, you continue on that path, always continue on your path, he told me,
00:19:17and yes, always, always, uh, the truth is that
00:19:21he was a guy, uh, it's true that he wasn't a political journalist,
00:19:25he wasn't a typical political journalist, but he liked
00:19:28politics, yes, a lot, a lot, uh, yes,
00:19:32so uh, he had
00:19:35like a dedication, uh, to
00:19:39politics every now and then, no, suddenly he would come out with a
00:19:43completely different program but
00:19:47uh with with
00:19:50people, that's what I want to talk about, because I think all of
00:19:54us who knew Chiche in front of the camera and behind
00:19:57the camera naturally have this double experience,
00:20:00no, obviously you were always a politician and your first
00:20:04closeness with him was in interviews, yes. But behind
00:20:08the camera there was another Chiche, tell me a little about that
00:20:10Chiche, well, he was
00:20:13a, sometimes, uh
00:20:17totally and suddenly he was in a bad mood because
00:20:20some part of the production had done
00:20:23something he didn't like, they hadn't put it at a distance, sure, sometimes
00:20:27he had to use some element, I don't know, you know, so he didn't have it
00:20:31at a sufficient distance and the team and I tell
00:20:35them you know I have to do this and
00:20:38so I would see him sometimes very friendly
00:20:42and very chummy and sometimes with his ducks
00:20:46flying, right, what was your reaction, Patricia, because you know
00:20:50I used to laugh because, let's say, it's like
00:20:53that happens to us, you know, sometimes you're with your team
00:20:57and everything goes well and sometimes you want to grab someone by the
00:21:03us all and besides it's not a thing, if it's a
00:21:06proponent you say, well, this is a total killjoy but it wasn't a
00:21:09proponent thing, it was like a very
00:21:12particular thing also Patricia Patricia I have a question because many
00:21:16journalists interviewed you.
00:21:23Politician, why don't journalists like that emerge? Well, what do I know, now I think
00:21:27there are some there on the Crónica channel, some that are
00:21:30kind of disruptive that mix entertainment with
00:21:34politics, I think there are some young ones emerging,
00:21:37we have to see them, we have to see them, I sometimes when I see a
00:21:40new one that has that same disruption or
00:21:44that is, it's that, that it's not a single
00:21:48one, it's multifaceted, that it has. in different topics
00:21:51uh, but don't worry, you
00:21:54know that he always said, at least to
00:21:58us, uh, that his political orientation
00:22:02was to be a communist, he also said he was a vegan and ate
00:22:05meat, that he didn't eat meat, he also
00:22:09who know him said he ate, but I want to ask you this because you know that
00:22:13many times in politics, much more in recent years, in recent
00:22:16decades, journalists have joined
00:22:19to work politically, beyond the
00:22:22differences that Chiche might have with the political ideology of
00:22:26Chiche, would you have liked to have characters like Chiche in your
00:22:28team, did you find him interesting to be in the political
00:22:32ranks, did you find him an interesting man when it came to entering
00:22:58whether he ever thought he had surely been
00:23:01offered
00:23:04in 2005 when Moria was a candidate for deputy,
00:23:06there was the idea that the topic of celebrities and
00:23:10politics was returning, he had also offered Palito to return to politics,
00:23:14Chiche too, and I remember Chiche at that time, I wouldn't get into politics for anything.
00:23:17política.
00:23:20not because he didn't want to, but because he would go to every channel that criticized
00:23:23him and he wouldn't put up with it, uh he told me that what would bother him most was
00:23:27the opinion of his colleagues,
00:23:31no, but he always said that entering Crónica,
00:23:35uh, generated a master's degree in life with people, so he got so close
00:23:39to people, a lot of empathy, a lot of empathy, sometimes he was horrified in
00:23:42some mobile homes when he saw the conditions people lived in, have you ever seen Chiche cry,
00:23:46forgive me, because you're crying for Chiche, you've been crying
00:23:50until recently, but have you ever seen Chiche cry, I think the last ones and in what,
00:23:54in what note, do you remember, he got emotional in many, but the last
00:23:58deaths, Mauro's hit him
00:24:01Lanata's, I saw him very sad there, uh-huh, very
00:24:05sad, when he told me, Tota's also,
00:24:08Gastón is right, eh, and when he told me
00:24:12stories about his sister that he
00:24:42I also wanted to mention another case that deeply moved Chiche, the
00:24:46girl Morena in Lanús, remember they punched her to steal her cell phone. That
00:24:50case was the one that made him feel a lot, he had
00:24:54thought there would be a breaking point in Argentine society regarding
00:24:57security and that breaking point never existed, he also said that
00:25:00on air, well, here are other messages, look, when I saw the news, I couldn't
00:25:04believe it, I said my childhood is gone, I used to watch him when I
00:25:07was little with my dad, I always
00:25:11the tongue told you things, he was a beautiful person.
00:25:14Greetings from Río
00:25:24Well, and someone who has many
00:25:27the last people who worked with Chiche is Mercedes Cordero, yes, who
00:25:31was precisely on Sunday, uh, on channel
00:25:349, clear, hosting with Chiche, and this situation
00:25:38caught her attention a lot, because you saw him very well,
00:25:40Mercedes. Uh, hello everyone, uh,
00:25:44yes, the truth is that obviously I'm surprised
00:25:47because, uh, let's see, it was public knowledge, and
00:25:51we all saw it during the last months, this 2026,
00:25:54uh, it hit Chiche quite hard health-wise,
00:25:58because this was already his fourth hospitalization, uh, but the
00:26:01truth is that he had fought much more
00:26:04complex situations at a clinical level, so when I found out
00:26:07yesterday that, well, that
00:26:11he was indeed hospitalized and that it was due to
00:26:14difficulty breathing
00:26:17it's a matter of denial or what, but I kind of
00:26:21minimized it, you know, like I said, well, they'll have him for two or three
00:26:25days until they stabilize him, and I even took it for
00:26:28granted that, that the Sunday program would happen,
00:26:31and that... that everything would continue with absolute normality,
00:26:35I mean, no, no, I didn't imagine this outcome, I don't know if he's
00:26:38listening to us, no, and saving, and saving the
00:26:41differences, how are you, Anabela, Daniel, Sofi, all the Crónica team
00:26:45greets you, saving the differences, I think
00:26:48something similar happened to us, clear, something similar happened
00:26:52to us with what happened with Diego Maradona, no, that he would have those relapses,
00:26:55they would take him to some kind of hospitalization, and then he would be
00:26:58seen two days later as if nothing had happened in his programs, surely.
00:27:02It must have happened to you that sometime he would leave a hospitalization and
00:27:06go to work on Sunday as if nothing had happened.
00:27:10Yes, obviously, obviously, in fact, the last hospitalization,
00:27:14that long one he had that lasted almost a month and a half,
00:27:16uh, the first interview he did, uh, we recorded it at
00:27:20his house, and I had found out that as soon as he was discharged,
00:27:24that same afternoon, he went to the radio and went to
00:27:27Crónica, not on air, but he did go to the offices, so
00:27:31no, uh, so the first question I
00:27:34asked him was, Chiche, why did you do that? I mean, why were you discharged after a month and a half
00:27:38and you went to a radio and you went to a show on a television channel?
00:27:42And he told me, because it's what makes me feel good, it's what makes me happy,
00:27:45uh, and in some
00:27:47way, I was going to tell you that, and who
00:27:51are you to set the bar for another, to say, I don't know,
00:27:54be careful, behave well, you know, like those things that come out of
00:28:00you've just been discharged, like, stay, but he's a
00:28:02man who breathed and sweated journalism,
00:28:06so his natural habitat was not in
00:28:09his house nor in a sanatorium, it was in a radio studio, it was in a television
00:28:13studio, and once you understood that logic and that
00:28:16dynamic, uh, everything
00:28:19was explained, Mercedes, people might not see it, uh, Sofía
00:28:23greets you, how are you, I embrace you from
00:28:25afar, uh, people don't see it, but
00:28:29those of us who worked the last years alongside Chiche, we went
00:28:33from being, from learning, from
00:28:35idolizing him, from absorbing all his
00:28:38journalism, but to being his friends, his support, the
00:28:42relationship also many times with his family, to taking care of him,
00:28:45uh, his nurses, his, his everything, and I know
00:28:48you were very much behind Chiche in
00:28:51every step, yes, yes, yes,
00:28:54yes, uh, obviously,
00:28:58what I'm going to tell you, but I say this not to tell
00:29:02an indiscretion, but for something that was seen on screen, he was already going in a wheelchair to do the
00:29:06show in recent times, this was seen, I mean, I'm not saying anything
00:29:10that hasn't been seen. And in fact, I
00:29:13remember that one of the times, it was last Sunday, I said to him, "Oh,
00:29:17Chiche, you can wear shoes now," because at first, since his feet
00:29:21were bandaged, he used crocs, and so he needed
00:29:24shoes that wouldn't squeeze his feet, and when I saw that he was
00:29:28able to wear regular
00:29:31got happy about it.
00:29:41The only thing I noticed is that it's
00:29:44like, uh, I was like watching, like you said, Sofi,
00:29:48right? Like being there, watching to help him, that he had like a
00:29:51little bit of water, uh, you know when it comes out of your nose? But guys, we all have a little
00:29:55bit of water, it's this time of year, it's changing, you know, from spring, from the famous
00:29:59allergy that we all have from the trees, I mean, no, the
00:30:03last thing I imagined was that it was something that could become more complicated
00:30:07beyond being aware of getting him a tissue
00:30:09for, for, for when water comes out of your nose, that's all.
00:30:13Mercedes, I don't know if we can just
00:30:16hold you for a minute, because we have Freddy Villa Real, he was Chiche's
00:30:20imitator, guys, clear,
00:30:23so in fact I think there's an interview where
00:30:27both Chiches are together, which is very interesting, very nice
00:30:30and very funny today.
00:30:33Freddy, good morning, the whole Crónica family greets you, thank you for these minutes.
00:30:36Well, what was that experience like, of imitating
00:30:39Chichi and having him one-on-one, face-to-
00:30:41face?
00:30:44Uh, it was very positive because he has always been
00:30:47very cool with, with, with everything that happened in the media,
00:30:51and and, and he
00:30:54knew how to take it very, very well,
00:30:58so, this, the fact that he was.