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00:00:00to travel to the moon, there was like a lottery, he wanted to be,
00:00:04he wanted to be in everything, everything, well, in the note he gives Facundo that we passed a
00:00:07while ago to the channel director, he says one has an age for
00:00:11his projects, so for him having projects was being
00:00:15alive, yes, look, I wrote a note a while ago
00:00:19for him and I say the best medicine Chiche
00:00:22had was work, and it was that, having a
00:00:25project, having a prize, having something to tell the next
00:00:28day, notice that we lived across from each other for many
00:00:32years and we shared the same supermarket,
00:00:36so, eh, he would tell me go, there's a two-for-one on such
00:00:39and such a product and when it was my turn, I would tell him look, such
00:00:43and such is on sale, that is, notice that he
00:00:49people ask for, I mean, all of generating entertainment, which I think is what was also attentive to this daily domestic issue.
00:00:52Eh, that paints a picture for people to understand that people are not like
00:00:56they see on TV, an untouchable being.
00:01:00Chiche was sick, Chiche had problems, and Chiche also lived the same
00:01:04as all of us, his obsession with prices, his concern for
00:01:07the economy, remember that he fought against the prepared so that
00:01:11prices would not increase and we won, we won that injunction, that is,
00:01:14he was just one more, equal to
00:01:17the people, he understood that, that's why he interpreted
00:01:21what interested people so much, the audience and
00:01:24they always gave him credit, regarding prices and the most
00:01:28basic things, like milk, it was kind of traditional
00:01:32of him, eh, he was how he
00:01:35was very attentive to what everyday
00:01:37life was like, right? How much the
00:01:41he was the one who best mixed journalism with bus ticket cost, that is, the train ticket, and you, as a journalist, it happened
00:01:45to me, eh, you had to know everything, that is, if he asked you a
00:01:49question, you had to know it, you couldn't
00:01:51fail, I think that's what one can rescue
00:01:54from his professionalism, right? You see that
00:01:58he also told the interviewees, yes, where
00:02:01did you buy these clothes, live, eh, you changed your
00:02:04hairstyle, tell me how you styled your hair, those kinds of questions
00:02:08that might not seem like pure journalistic
00:02:25insight, yes, I think what you say resonates with me because I think
00:02:29he was always building a bridge with the person on the other side,
00:02:32thinking what they might be thinking or even
00:02:35creating an atmosphere in an interview that might be a bit
00:02:39tedious, perhaps, but entering and exiting with daily
00:02:42life, I think he was a master of television atmospheres,
00:02:46besides, at a given moment he would ask the precise question, the million-dollar
00:02:50question, always those interviews that a
00:02:53fragment was a scoop, was a headline, that only
00:02:57comes from the experience of years of
00:03:00this profession, right, this of someone who observes reality
00:03:03as a big issue, not
00:03:06like the news of the
00:03:09to get rid of subsidies, do you day always going a little further, well, in the meantime we are
00:03:12seeing many people who are approaching
00:03:16in Villacrespo, Rodo is there, give us a minute,
00:03:20okay, in Rodo we were passing by and saw many
00:03:24friends, many family members, many people from the media, people who love
00:03:27him.
00:03:32Of course, it's always impactful, because it's the Exactly, Sofi, those are the words and the tone because
00:03:34both Chiche and his family, but especially
00:03:37friends, people from the media, Marta González is entering,
00:03:41Matías, you who were a protagonist of history and news yes, she entered a little while
00:03:44ago, just
00:03:48eh she entered without being asked for documentation or
00:03:51anything, Marta entered directly, now she is
00:03:54there with the
00:03:56family.
00:04:00for every friend,
00:04:02colleague, anyone who wants to say a final farewell, we are
00:04:07Tuesday 50% discount on here at Loyola 100,
00:04:09after that time, the funeral procession
00:04:13will go to the cemetery of La
00:04:17Tablada, in the municipality of La Matanza, to
00:04:20cross into the province of Buenos Aires, there
00:04:24Chiche will be resting, no need
00:04:27to say Helblum, it's just Chiche. that are also
00:04:31arriving, many
00:04:34flowers, many flowers are also arriving
00:04:37here, people who are not from the
00:04:40media are also entering, yes, to say their
00:04:44last goodbye, for those people who want to enter
00:04:48they are 10, 15 minutes entering here at the
00:04:51place and then they leave through another
00:04:54door,
00:04:57I insist with this, the hearse has also entered...
00:05:00that will transport Chiche, it just entered
00:05:04through one of the side doors, one of the doors that this
00:05:07funeral home has here in the Villacrespo
00:05:11have adolescence, do neighborhood, it has already entered. So for anyone, I insist with this,
00:05:14who wants to say a final goodbye to Chiche, until
00:05:183 PM that time will be respected
00:05:22to say goodbye to Chiche, the great and beloved Chiche,
00:05:25here at Lora 100. Rodo, you just mentioned Marta
00:05:29González, the actress, right? And she was the wife of another
00:05:33Chiche Sosa, right?
00:05:36He interviewed her many times, many
00:05:39times, Chiche interviewed her many times.
00:05:45very well to Marta after she was widowed, because there was an important relationship between them, of course, so
00:05:49there was also a personal story between the two of them, Chiche, wife of Chiche Sosa, remember who
00:05:53that was, of course, Marta González, who was Chiche Sosa,
00:05:57Chiche Sosa was, well, a renowned footballer and then
00:06:00a football coach, very renowned,
00:06:03he died, of course, in 2020, a few years ago, eh,
00:06:06Matías Bañato, you know who
00:06:10that survivor of the Flores massacre is, do you
00:06:14remember that businessman who decided to set
00:06:17fire to his former partner, his entire family?
00:06:22There he is, Matías is on the line, but Rodo, what
00:06:26is happening? We'll go with Mati in a moment, Rodo, there's
00:06:28movement. Yes, you know
00:06:32that we are attentive to this movement
00:06:35because it seems that it
00:06:38has moved up, yes, everyone is leaving.
00:06:42Uh.
00:06:46Of course, because all these people who were here
00:06:49inside with Chiche, eh, they just opened the
00:06:53door, everyone is leaving. Of course, I'm now on
00:06:56air, so maybe Rodo wants to cross, I'd like to
00:06:59cross, wait a minute, I'm going to cross to ask
00:07:20watching the post you made on
00:07:23Instagram. It says "Today Chiche left and with him goes a part of a story that
00:07:27we shared for more than 30 years. He interviewed me for the first time
00:07:30when I was just 16, after what had happened at my house. Since
00:07:34that moment, our lives crossed again and again." Eh, why did they cross
00:07:37again and again, beyond the journalistic aspect, did you have contact
00:07:41with him? Yes, he was the first to go beyond his
00:07:45role as a journalist, he was one of those few journalists
00:07:48who, beyond his work, as I say, was
00:07:52very, very supportive of me throughout these 30 years
00:07:55that, well, he never left me alone, he was always
00:07:59aware of my situation, eh, and I
00:08:03remember, well, every interview he finished with me, he would always
00:08:06hug me and tell me, "Mati, you have to keep living, I want to see you
00:08:10happy." He was a great , a great man, guys, in every aspect,
00:08:14and, and I think , well, as I say, beyond
00:08:17his journalistic work, how he was as a human being
00:08:21with me, right, during these more than 30 years. I saw him the last
00:08:25time a short while ago, about six months ago, when he interviewed me for the last
00:08:29time there on
00:08:54for us too, well, to have had
00:08:57someone who accompanied you and gave you words of encouragement
00:09:00throughout all this time, someone important like Chiche Hellbloom,
00:09:03besides, I imagine it was
00:09:10in high regard, like many other journalists too. But well,
00:09:13you know better than I do, as I often say, it's not
00:09:16common for journalists to follow a case
00:09:20for 30 years, no, eh, you saw
00:09:23that unfortunately, well, one case covers another, I often say, it's not
00:09:26common for journalists to follow a case
00:09:30for 30 years, no, eh, you saw
00:09:33that unfortunately, well, one case covers another, yes, and
00:09:36well, journalists like Chiche, I think , well, at least in my
00:09:40story, yes, they left that indelible
00:09:43mark because beyond the news, of getting the
00:09:46news, many times it was that call to see how I was doing, eh,
00:09:50to see how I was doing, how my grandmother was doing,
00:09:54so, nothing, that's why, beyond his role
00:09:58that obviously everyone highlights, that he was a master and what he was
00:10:02as a journalist, well, until the last moment he was doing what he loved
00:10:05most, eh, I do want to highlight what he was as a human being,
00:10:09right, that commitment he had with me, those
00:10:12that support, obviously, I don't need
00:10:16to say it, right, but imagine, at 16 years old, what it was like for me in that context,
00:10:20after what had happened to me, having to face the cameras and everything, and
00:10:24he was so supportive, eh, that I don't forget
00:10:27those things about him or about Funny Vandelbon,
00:10:31there were so many journalists from that time who, beyond
00:10:35the work they had to do,
00:10:38were so human with me that they left an indelible
00:10:42mark on me, not to mention how he talks about Chiche's journalism,
00:10:46right? That's good to have
00:10:49during all those years a, a
00:10:53mention to continue. interviews so as not to let go of your case, the
00:10:57truth is a super important and super
00:11:00interesting story to have shared these minutes with you, Matías, thank you
00:11:03very much, no, you, a big kiss and a kiss to the whole
00:11:06family,
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00:12:57So many friends, so many colleagues on the other side, on a very difficult day for the whole
00:13:01Crónica family, we are with Tartu, thank you for being on the other
00:13:16truth is it's very hard to be at the
00:13:19last farewell to Chiche and we want
00:13:22to remember him as he would have liked. As he deserves
00:13:26to be, Tartu, who knows how he would have liked,
00:13:30right, such a creative guy, what do I know, I think he also would have liked us to remember
00:13:34him with a smile, to remember him positively, creative,
00:13:37you know he had this thing he would say no one speaks ill of me, well of me, sorry, like this
00:13:41thing that he lacked this thing of prestige, you know, but well, nothing, people
00:13:45obviously weren't looking for him from the prestige side, but from the
00:13:49everyday side, and this thing he always conveyed, the
00:13:53intuition, right, the journalistic intuition he had, well, you as a
00:13:56channel that has the pulse of what's popular know that perfectly well, and
00:14:00Chiche had that, he knew exactly what was happening to people and was always
00:14:03concerned about that, right, about pocket economics, what was happening to people,
00:14:07what was inside a sausage, how much the bus cost, you know he asked Miley
00:14:11how much a kilo of meat cost or how much the bus cost or he asked
00:14:15Cristina if she did her own makeup, these are the things people ask themselves at
00:14:18home, I think that's a great value he had, you know, you saw
00:14:22Tartu that in journalism, you also have the
00:14:25purists, right, the, the
00:14:28, the ones who think that what some do
00:14:31is trash, it happened to Chiche, they called him
00:14:34yellow journalist, it happened with this channel that said no,
00:14:38look at Crónica, look at what they put, today what Chiche did
00:14:42everyone does and what Crónica does
00:14:46everyone does on the super channels, I mean, it
00:14:50set a trend, Chiche, in his way of doing
00:14:52journalism, no doubt. That's why I think we shouldn't
00:14:56care about the opinion of other colleagues and friends, it's all
00:14:59good, they stand on a pulpit or whatever and point with their
00:15:03finger, but we all do the same, deep down
00:15:06one works on this too, I do gossip and I think deep down
00:15:10too, you know, as we discussed with Chiche, everything was gossip, because if, let's see,
00:15:14if Mariano Clock, who is on a prestigious screen, tells you, it
00:15:17seems to me that Enner Valencia is playing, what he is saying is also gossip, he is not
00:15:21giving information, well Chiche understood this clearly. Clearly, and
00:15:25he always had, I repeat, he had the pulse of the popular, he knew what
00:15:29was happening to people and smelled in the air what was to come,
00:15:33well, besides being a journalist he had this of being a producer too.
00:15:37to think what he could do and where to find
00:15:41material to put on air, I think that was also
00:15:44something special about Chiche, different from
00:15:47everyone. Yes, yes, well, I think we also had the
00:15:51luck, well, Pampa is also from the graphic industry, so this
00:15:54history that those of us who come from the graphic industry have a different
00:15:57background, it's true, so you start to connect differently
00:16:01and you see how you can formulate, in this case, for
00:16:04television, which I think is where
00:16:38post on X and that anecdote about
00:16:42the environment that I would like you to recall here because the truth
00:16:50Chiche told me, we were, Chiche
00:16:53was affiliated with the Argentine Communist Party, he had the mythical PC card and
00:16:57so on, from that, a conversation arises in which
00:17:01he, he worked at Ámbito Financiero, Julio Ramos takes him to
00:17:05Ámbito Financiero and gives him a newspaper within the newspaper
00:17:08because there he basically did general information and society,
00:17:12but basically it was like another newspaper that was not Ámbito Financiero because
00:17:16Ámbito Financiero, you know, was dedicated to finance, markets and so on, and
00:17:19it was clear, but there it was good because, I repeat, there
00:17:23he worked on people's pocket economy, so he would say, well, people can afford
00:17:26this, they can't afford the other, or for example, just to say something, why
00:17:30is Las Leñas more expensive than going for a week in
00:17:39much more repercussion outside the financial market,
00:17:43as Chiche was already doing well in radio and television, he tells Julio Ramos, look,
00:17:46I'm resigning, no, you can't resign, no, I'm serious, I'm resigning,
00:17:49Julio Ramos thought it was about money, so he doubles Chiche's
00:17:53salary, Chiche says you don't understand, it's not about money, I'm leaving because I already have radio,
00:17:57television, I can't do more, I'm leaving, this and that, Julio Ramos tells him:
00:18:00"Well, you'll come back here, so I'm going to keep your desk and I'm going
00:18:04to deposit your salary every month," he didn't care about this or that,
00:18:08and he saw that they started to deposit his salary every month,
00:18:11and Chiche, instead of keeping that money, he
00:18:15routinely donated his salary to various
00:18:18charities, for example, he would donate
00:18:21$1000 ,
00:18:25$1000 to the Salvation Army, and so
00:18:28on, every month, and when that
00:18:31stopped, he didn't want to appear as if that money was
00:18:35coming from above, so he started donating his own money, he started
00:18:39donating his time too, he would go to charities in the morning to
00:18:43donate blood, he would do anything
00:18:46remember when it was optional, he was one of the first people
00:18:50to get rid of subsidies, there were only 20,000 in total in the
00:19:00because the truth is it's a
00:19:03all of us, Presto also came to the
00:19:13him many, many times, yes, thank you very much, guys, well, first I want to say,
00:19:17I don't know, I don't know if I'm even up to saying a few farewell words
00:19:21to Chiche, the only thing
00:19:24I will say first is, I
00:19:28admired him very much, for me to enter Crónica and be able to see
00:19:31him was a lot, and I'm not
00:19:35getting emotional as a camera act, but because for those of us from the
00:19:38interior who grew up with the anecdotes these
00:20:06and took care of him,
00:20:09I also want to say that now when I leave, he'll surely
00:20:11curse me out, but Facundo Pedrini took care of Chiche
00:20:15like a son and supported him and the whole Crónica family,
00:20:19I hated all media my life
00:20:22and the only channel I wanted to go to was Crónica because Chiche
00:20:26was there and the first time I came, in one
00:20:30of the breaks, he told me, excuse me, I'm going to imitate him but not disrespectfully
00:20:33but with the tone he used, he said:
00:20:38"You're old, you didn't have a childhood," I told him
00:20:41how, you do it well, Presto, "You're old, you didn't have
00:20:45a childhood, the same as me, you didn't
00:20:49people bore you?" young and I
00:20:51said yes, it's true, the same thing happened to me and
00:20:54when I started on Crónica he told me not to listen to anyone,
00:20:58do your own thing, they called you for a reason, they'll start telling you what
00:21:02to do, nobody knows anything here.
00:21:05And for me it was a fantastic thing, today morning
00:21:08I woke up to Facundo's message, Chiche
00:21:12had passed away a while ago, I went to take him
00:21:15flowers and I greeted his wife,
00:21:19I learned from this, it's not a set phrase, what love
00:21:22is, when I saw Chiche's
00:21:25wife, every time I came here, she was
00:21:29there behind him all the time,
00:21:32taking care of him, accompanying him, and then
00:21:35talking to people from the media, they told me, Presto, that was always the case, she was always
00:21:39behind him, and on Sunday I hugged her tightly and hugged
00:21:43him very tightly, and today I went to take him flowers, I wanted to leave him
00:21:47some red carnations because as a good communist,
00:21:50a man of struggle, a different kind of communism, not
00:21:54the crazy people we see shouting, a well-
00:21:58educated man, I left him some roses and gave
00:22:01his wife a huge hug
00:22:20Buenos Aires feels lonelier when these kinds of people are gone, Gordo
00:22:23Soriano, Chiche Hellblom, La
00:22:26Nata, people who give color, not
00:22:39who for years
00:22:41bastardized Chiche's work, now they will have
00:22:45to shut up before
00:22:48a legend, those who accused him of making covers that he
00:22:52didn't make and that it's time to say so, he didn't make the Balvin
00:22:56cover, because when I was watching here on Uber, a
00:22:59pseudo-journalist was saying no, well, but we also have to remember the Balvin cover,
00:23:03Chiche Helblum did not make the Balvin cover in Gente magazine,
00:23:06unfortunately men and women like
00:23:10Blacky, like Chiche Helblum,
00:23:13Magdalena die and imbeciles remain in front of
00:23:16microphones who don't read and don't study.
00:23:20Crónica is the people's channel, well Chiche, Chiche is
00:23:24the people, thank you Chiche, eternal, and as he used to say, if you have
00:23:27dignity, resign,
00:23:30Tartu, Presto, stay a second, we have a couple of tips
00:23:34and we'll keep chatting with everyone,
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00:24:21Well, and of course we continue live, in the tribute to Chiche
00:24:24Hellblom, this house that gave him for so long the
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00:25:46my referent.
00:25:50I read him when I was a girl in Gente magazine, then
00:25:53a colleague of the
00:25:55channel and he was always
00:25:59so respectful I'm going to tell you something very small that
00:26:03was in the private sphere when he was making
00:26:06a memory, I told him one day, thank you
00:26:10Chiche for being so respectful to
00:26:20told me, "They are all idiots, these intellectuals, the
00:26:23journalism that sells the most is sports and entertainment, those
00:26:27who discriminate against you are all idiots,
00:26:30envious." And that, that stayed with me, a man of
00:26:34journalism
00:26:38brutal, besides with a wit that few journalists,
00:26:42think that he entered television at 50 years old, when
00:26:45many already have 25 or 30 years of
00:26:49television, he started and revolutionized, what do you highlight about
00:26:53Chiche, so many years on television, you, looking at him from the other side,
00:26:56you must have also criticized him for better or worse, but what do you highlight about Chiche? No, what
00:27:00I highlight is his creativity, his
00:27:02popularity that he
00:27:06always had to do
00:27:37days, she will
00:27:38tell you,
00:27:43the show, no doubt about it, no doubt about it, along with
00:27:56I was with him was at Crónica, he
00:28:01managed everything. And he
00:28:20until last year that he was
00:28:23on Saturdays, I sometimes went to visit him before
00:28:27he went on air because he was already at the channel
00:28:31and he was always very happy
00:29:02to find out if the
00:29:11several farewells here,
00:29:14like two or three rooms,
00:29:17ah, that was it, the original
00:29:21schedule is respected,
00:29:23I will insist with this until 3 PM, the
00:29:27funeral of Chiche will be
00:29:30here at the bar
00:29:33Eh Rodo, we'll be back soon to the Villa Crespo area where
00:29:37relatives and friends are saying goodbye
00:29:40to Chiche G, a small break, a short
00:29:43pause, don't go, we continue
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