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00:00:31What's happening here, talk, talk, talk to
00:01:22or these are today's topics,
00:01:24go ahead.
00:01:31Filling the shopping cart costs more than 1 million
00:01:34pesos, we will be at the
00:01:38central market so that together we can see how much
00:01:41things really cost, at least in the central
00:01:44market, also
00:01:47"Imbatibles" this topic, chat
00:01:51GPT revealed it, he was planning a
00:01:54criminal massacre in a school, everything was
00:01:58discovered even by the.
00:02:00involved, in a little while we'll tell you the particularity of
00:02:04this guy and what they found in his
00:02:06house,
00:02:12he killed out of jealousy, a
00:02:13ago. Uh, you know that with 19-year-old man, murdered
00:02:16his partner, another case of femicide,
00:02:20today on "Imbatibles" on the Crónica
00:02:22screen.
00:02:30It's a complicated issue for many people, uh, an economic
00:02:34issue, people are struggling to make
00:02:38ends meet, to meet all their obligations, there's
00:02:42a lot to pay and little money coming in, Melis, despite the fact that
00:02:45yesterday the inflation index was announced and it was a good number for the executive
00:02:49branch, because it's what they've been
00:02:52Uh, regarding trying to contain, in the common
00:02:56projects actually go in the direction of everything economy, the one we have to face every day when we open the fridge,
00:02:58when we have to put a plate of... food on the tables, we realize that that
00:03:02number doesn't correspond to what our
00:03:05income yields, if we are lucky enough to have one or more than one,
00:03:09exactly, here the issue is an issue
00:03:12that we all already know, understand, but it's always worth
00:03:15remembering, if you have your salary
00:03:18frozen and they don't increase it
00:03:21Can I ask as much as the things you have to pay for are increasing, your salary starts
00:03:26buy? A steering wheel to lose value, it starts to lose purchasing power in... So every
00:03:30month you can buy a little less with salaries like this, they don't
00:03:34keep up with inflation, that's what's happening, there are 50
00:03:38draft laws, 50 draft laws that were
00:03:41presented and referred to the committees to be able to de-indebt
00:03:45Argentine families, why? Because it's a reality, no matter how they try to
00:03:49tell us it is, but eight out of 10 Argentines are
00:03:53either with credit cards or with Fintech or with the
00:03:57neighborhood loan sharks, which translates into a real
00:04:00nightmare, you saw that this week some audios were leaked about
00:04:04how those who lend you money in the neighborhood
00:04:08operate and then demand it back, they pressure you until you go
00:04:11crazy, until you either threaten to eliminate
00:04:14yourself, commit suicide or you have to leave the
00:04:17neighborhood, they don't leave you in peace, the situation with that type of
00:04:20loans, with that type of
00:04:24loans from people who only have
00:04:27threats to charge you with
00:04:30and coercion of some kind, because their
00:04:33idea is not to sue you, it's not to demand payment through
00:04:36judicial means, it's to pressure the
00:04:38no, because they always had a person until they pay, it's worth saying that in developed
00:04:42countries annual inflation is 2-3%, in
00:04:45Argentina it
00:04:49continues to be 24 to 30%
00:04:52annually, that is, every time from January to December, to
00:04:56set a period of time, things
00:04:58we're going to see the price of fruits, increase by...
00:05:08I was thinking that the government's response to these issues,
00:05:11to the issue of debt, to the issue of the lack of
00:05:15money to buy the basics for Argentines, is the
00:05:19fall in purchasing power, it's never
00:05:21a solution for those people, it's always "well, whoever wanted to get into
00:05:25debt got into debt," nobody put a gun to their head, this is
00:05:29textual, I'm not making it up, so they get into debt, the
00:05:32government has said it, uh, we're not going to
00:05:35move from this place, 75% of Argentine money and
00:05:39Argentine debts are in banks, fintech are another thing. I mean,
00:05:43all responses that in reality are responses that kick
00:05:46the ball out of play, to put it simply, that don't offer a solution to
00:05:50people who today have a serious problem, among whom are young people and
00:05:54women. Welcome Caro Dovale, I see you're eager to speak today,
00:05:57Friday, do you have any debt in your life, Carito? And
00:06:01look, I have a credit card and logically, although I pay it every month
00:06:05and don't have debt, you also have to consider it as debt because you actually take on
00:06:09debt and pay it in 30 days, so I mean people who have credit cards
00:06:12say, "I don't have debt" even if you're up to date and pay the total, yes, you are in debt too.
00:06:16Oh, you're saying that because it's being financed.
00:06:20Exactly, that's why you have to be very careful and it's worth saying
00:06:24that if you have a credit card you can go into the bank's app
00:06:27and see how much you've been spending month to month so you don't overspend.
00:06:31Welcome, how are you? Good afternoon everyone, Gabriela, Mandato, how
00:06:34are you? Uh, many people also pay the minimum on their credit
00:06:38card and when you pay the minimum on your credit card
00:06:41that's when you really get into trouble, if you're paying the minimum and think
00:06:45everything is fine, check the papers
00:06:48carefully because when the statement comes, exactly,
00:06:51the sales will eat you alive, in 6 months
00:06:55you'll be heavily in debt, like people before the show, just now with Cristian Eche,
00:06:59hello Chris, welcome, we were having coffee and talking about how on
00:07:02some platforms if you lend money to the
00:07:05platform they pay you this,
00:07:09but if you ask for a loan they charge you
00:07:11this. That is, I understand that the platform takes the
00:07:15risk, I'm not being naive, but
00:07:18come on, it's not a crazy risk either, I'm going to say
00:07:21something, I'm going to say something, precisely you take a risk when you give money to the
00:07:25platform, because if at some point the platform doesn't respond to you, I'm going to
00:07:29tell you something, I won't say which one, it happened to me once that they stole my money from the
00:07:32platform, they stole my cell phone, because
00:07:36they know much more than we do how everything is protected, they took my money which was my
00:07:40savings, it was a lot of money, it was a risk that you take.
00:07:55The truth is that one sees that inflation can go down but prices don't. Today a typical family, to not
00:07:59be, to not be in poverty, has to earn more than 1,600, so that's important.
00:08:04what they are saying, some of the
00:08:08we are discussing here, for example, that the information is clear and
00:08:12available. Because if you can borrow money with just
00:08:15a button, nobody does a study on who they are
00:08:19really lending money to, nobody is evaluating if you have a job, if you have a way to
00:08:23pay it back, you press a button, they lend you a million pesos, let's
00:08:26say, but the information is not clear about what Gabi says, let's see,
00:08:30what is the rate, how much will I have to owe, what happens if I don't
00:08:34pay it back, and another issue has to do with our personal
00:08:37data, the management of our personal data, the platform doesn't call you
00:08:41to demand payment. It calls you a law firm, it calls
00:08:44you some guy you don't know, they end up
00:08:48harassing you to the point that people end up getting sick,
00:08:52going crazy because they might have asked the platform for 300,000 pesos
00:08:55and end up owing two million. Well, this not
00:08:59knowing what the movement you have is with respect
00:09:02to your job, your income or whatever, it's supposed, let's say
00:09:06that, it's supposed Meli that the analysis that a platform makes to lend you
00:09:10money is how you move.
00:09:42to the supermarket or maybe you go out in the neighborhood to
00:09:45buy an apple, a little something, what you consume, which is something
00:09:49very Argentine and the truth is I do it too, especially when I'm
00:09:53alone, how much does it fill, how much does it cost, sorry, to fill the
00:09:57shopping cart, for that we have Zorrito Ema in the central market
00:10:00live for "Imbatibles" on the Crónica screen,
00:10:04welcome Zorrito,
00:10:07thank you, Rulo, good afternoon, look, today
00:10:11vegetables and meat because we're in the central
00:10:14market and all that is everywhere, we're also going to talk to
00:10:18people to ask them how much they spend
00:10:20compared to their uh friendly store, let's go with
00:10:25the prices, for example, round
00:10:28tomato, 2 kg,
00:10:313000 pesos, 2 kg, that's cheap,
00:10:35they're good for Melina, sorry, Zorrito,
00:10:39sorry, sorry, we're going back and forth, because you know what, Melina
00:10:43is already seeing that here clearly, give me a
00:10:47second, this tomato, it's not
00:10:49good, you already saw it, this tomato,
00:10:53no wonder, guys.
00:10:56the pedestrian, let's see, ask the girl, I'm going to
00:11:00touch the tomato, come here, no, but I see it, let's see, there
00:11:04it is, how do you see it, I see
00:11:06it well, they're nice, they're
00:11:09nice, can I touch it? Touching the tomato, a
00:11:12tomato, it's good, eh, it's good, it's not what it seemed, it's
00:11:16good, for the salad
00:11:18it goes,
00:11:21color, uh, how much is the pear tomato,
00:11:25it's there, I saw it, 2 kg, 3000 also,
00:11:29the same, ah, okay, you're more of a pear person
00:11:32you, more, what good prices
00:11:35they have, I want to tell you that I feel like taking my car
00:11:39to the central
00:11:40market.
00:11:44Sorry, what happens if "Imbatibles" one day we go and buy for
00:11:47everyone? I'd love it, how
00:11:51do we divide it? It's a mess to buy. Well,
00:11:55no, Melina also needs 5 kg of everything, there are 18 in the
00:11:58house, and good eaters,
00:12:02starting with me, listen eh, I was going to put a garden,
00:12:05I'd save money if I put a business, a garden, I had so many kids, he said at one point
00:12:09I'll put a garden, I put the kids to make their own garden, more or less, you
00:12:13with something, clear, I always have to buy
00:12:172 kg of whatever it is, while we are
00:12:20in the central market we have Ismael
00:12:23economist. We're going to do a role play between Zorrito with the prices
00:12:27and Ismael, sorry, Bermúdez, welcome, "Imbatibles"
00:12:31on the Crónica screen, hello, how
00:12:34are you, good afternoon, how are you doing? Good,
00:12:38everything in order. Well, we're talking
00:12:41about the current economy of Argentines, debts,
00:12:44how much it costs to fill the fridge, where do
00:12:48you buy things, Emmanuel, Ismael,
00:12:51Ismael, well, I buy them near my neighborhood,
00:12:55logically, no. Uh, in different stores,
00:12:58logically trying to get the lowest
00:13:02prices, what happens is that I
00:13:05observed that there was a very strong increase in the
00:13:08prices of vegetables, in the prices
00:13:11of fruits and that coincides precisely
00:13:15with uh the Indec measurement which showed
00:13:19that uh with an inflation
00:13:21of 1.7%,
00:13:23the baskets that have to do with food
00:13:27and basic services increased
00:13:29by 2.6%, equally, that is,
00:13:33it's really not easy to save, you know that
00:13:36here we always try to leave that
00:13:40message that you have to look for prices, but doesn't it happen to you that you go out in the
00:13:43neighborhood and it doesn't vary that much either, it's not easy
00:13:47in your neighborhood for three, four, five blocks around, to make a
00:13:50good deal or make an intelligent purchase, it's hard to find
00:13:54good prices. Yes, it's hard to find good prices and above
00:13:57all this well, what happens is that
00:14:01the salary has lost a lot of purchasing power, pensions
00:14:04lost a lot of purchasing power due to the
00:14:08frozen bonus, this 7000 pesos bonus,
00:14:11it's a bonus that should now be at 230,000,
00:14:15240,000 pesos and it's still at
00:14:1970,000 from March 2024,
00:14:21uh,
00:14:23and well, it's done. It's very difficult, also depending
00:14:27on how the family structure is,
00:14:30sometimes there's a discount when buying in
00:14:33bulk, but since it's about perishable
00:14:37goods, you have to be careful because I buy
00:14:412 kg of mandarins, 2 kg of tomatoes,
00:14:452 kg of potatoes, etc., no, no, you have to go, you have to buy
00:14:49little by little, not in bulk, you have to
00:14:52buy
00:15:30almost dead,
00:15:32three thousand pesos, you can't make it last
00:15:36long.
00:16:07it's very
00:16:07good, and the
00:16:15bananas are rare, those pink ones are not very good,
00:16:55that.
00:16:58he said,
00:17:01I made his life complicated, no, it's fine, what's your
00:17:04name, García, Norberto, Norberto, how much
00:17:07does it cost to fill the shopping cart at the central market, tell the
00:17:11boss, the
00:17:12boss's wife,
00:17:17how are you, Amparo, good, but good, where are you from, from
00:17:21Ciudad Evita, the best city with the best name,
00:17:25how much does it cost to fill the shopping cart at the central market, I don't know because I don't come
00:17:28often, you don't come often, and today how much did you spend? I bought strawberries and
00:17:32avocados, put on the
00:17:34earphone,
00:18:13The mandarin is your favorite one, but what price
00:18:16difference do you see with the neighborhood store? Well,
00:18:19look, I'm telling you, in Ciudad Evita there are many greengrocers,
00:18:23so there's competition and the quality is
00:18:27good because they buy here, so
00:18:31since there's competition, there are
00:18:33good prices and good brands. And you, personally?
00:18:38Uh, have you changed any habits when it comes to shopping? No, and yes, we're
00:18:41retirees.
00:18:43And what item do you buy less of? And
00:18:46expenses, the expenses that could be afforded
00:18:50today. Before, luxuries like meat, maybe
00:18:53yes, meat is eaten more.
00:19:34No, only once, it's the first time, very good.
00:19:51Yes, all good, where are you from? From Morón, from Morón. Well, how do you see the
00:19:54prices? All cheap, all cheap. What are you going to buy? We're buying a
00:19:58little bit of everything. Very good. Well, let's see, do you buy
00:20:02meat here? No, no, it's the first, it's the first
00:20:05time, very good. How much can you spend? No, I don't know what we're going to
00:20:08spend, but it's for four. Sorry, Ismael just went to the
00:20:12relegation,
00:20:18make an intelligent
00:20:19purchase.
00:20:25because we left him waiting, he's a phenomenon, we thank him
00:20:28very much, this
00:20:30kiss.
00:20:50to see the neighborhoods comparing to the neighborhood pretty good, pretty good and what did you come to
00:20:54buy? Fruits and vegetables, very good, and
00:20:58for how many days? For how many weeks? One week, one week, and the
00:21:01budget for one week, how much is it? And
00:21:04it depends because we are a family of
00:21:08three, 60, 70 thousand pesos, I buy 2 kg,
00:21:123 kg like that, clear, 7000 pesos
00:21:15approximately, approximately, do you buy meat here
00:21:18too? No, not meat.
00:23:42because he's very affectionate and he likes the interviewees to be
00:23:46close because Crónica is firm
00:23:48with the people, all yours,
00:23:51always firm with the people, that's why I hug my
00:24:45steaks can you buy per week? Uh, now
00:24:49it's difficult, it's complicated, yes, it's complicated, you make it last, no,
00:24:52yes, more, very good. And where do you come to
00:24:56buy from? From Tablada, from Tablada.
00:24:59How often do you come to buy? Do you buy for 15 days, more or less? Every week, more or less.
00:25:03And how much do you spend? Uh,
00:25:05say 30, thousand,
00:25:0740.
00:25:10We're three, three, three, yes, today living near the
00:25:13market.
00:25:21near the central market, how's it going, all good, how are the prices, how is it, and we are seeing that
00:25:25they are a little high today, but they came to buy as a family,
00:25:29outing to the central market, what price seems expensive to the guy, where are
00:25:32you from, we are from here from Loma del Mirador, what did you find
00:25:36expensive and what did you find cheap so far, prices always
00:25:39vary, but for example the
00:25:42artichoke seems to me, now, now, now he can't live without
00:25:46the 3 for 6000, it's in price, sometimes they sell you only one.
00:25:50price saying that two thousand today
00:25:53he thought that the prices were not cheap to me but sometimes they charge 5 each
00:26:46your name, Celeste, well, Celeste here, who's the one who says
00:26:50here, let's buy this, this this, you or the guy, no,
00:26:54both of us, both of us, both of us, yes, yes, very good, you have to be
00:26:57politically correct, no, exactly, while you give me a
00:27:00mate,
00:27:03tell me what prices you're liking so far, and the fruit, I like the
00:27:06prices, the strawberries, the blueberries, while I drink the mate,
00:27:10tell us, uh the prices, let's see, uh, the kilo
00:27:136000 pesos of strawberries, pear tomatoes 2 k