Argentina: Crónica

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00:00:12You broke the
00:00:30Look, in politics everything rebuilds itself, if
00:00:34tomorrow we see Lula
00:00:36reelected and they embrace each other, we will all celebrate, that's
00:00:40the good thing about politics, about diplomacy, it's not that
00:00:43there are paths that cannot be
00:00:47taken, taken back and from there forward, let's remember
00:00:50that Miley had said that the Pope was the representative of the
00:00:54evil one for example or that he would never speak
00:00:57with China or with Brazil.
00:01:05He had recognized in a speech last
00:01:08year the self-determination of the islanders
00:01:11and
00:01:14yes, the triumph of he reviewed it and welcomed it. I believe that nothing is
00:01:16irreversible
00:01:18and we must be careful with egos and having
00:01:22dogmatic positions where politics is the art of how to
00:01:26change and therefore it
00:01:30can be done, without a doubt, well, Diego, what suits
00:01:33Argentina, Lula or Bolsonaro,
00:01:36look, Brazil suits it, meaning it suits it for Brazil to continue
00:01:40doing well, if it is
00:01:44Lula, that investments continue, that stability
00:01:47he has to solve can be
00:01:51solved, if it is Bolsonaro, that it
00:01:54is resolved. We remember that Flavio Bolsonaro
00:01:57is a representative of his father,
00:02:00how will that presidency be resolved, will he be the
00:02:04president, what role will the
00:02:07ex-president want to play,
00:02:11the elected president's stepmother, a brother who
00:02:14is exiled in the United States and who will want to seek
00:02:18revenge, all this I believe that even
00:02:22Flavio himself does not know how he will solve it, but
00:02:25he has been destroying industry and what let's hope he solves it well. For Argentina's interest, it is
00:02:27that Brazil continues to be the... this seventh
00:02:30economy in the world with high credibility,
00:02:34that does us good, it is our most
00:02:37important partner, so more than thinking in ideological
00:02:40terms, we have to think in terms of the
00:02:44interests of Argentina and Brazil, Argentina's interests
00:02:49generated with are clearly with a credible, prosperous Brazil that
00:02:51is doing well, I believe that this is what we have to understand, yes,
00:02:55precisely what the gentleman says is summarized in achieving the economic
00:02:58and emotional strength of our sister country Brazil, as you have
00:03:02been saying, and that we strengthen the
00:03:06relationship obviously with Brazil, Brazil and Argentina
00:03:09together we are the largest producers of energy, of
00:03:13in the world,
00:03:16so we are much more if we are
00:03:19together, that without a doubt, meaning that the
00:03:23small quarrels between the presidents, let's hope that the
00:03:26current ones resolve them, if not, the next ones will.
00:03:30Brazil Argentina we have more than 200 years of history, good
00:03:33Diego, sorry, no Diego, for
00:03:37the United States, is Brazil or
00:03:39Argentina more important?
00:03:42No, Brazil is more important than Argentina in terms
00:03:45of its territorial volume, its
00:03:48who took Brazil out of the public appearances he production, its population,
00:03:52them, I had yes, of the great countries in the world, without a doubt
00:03:56it is the most important country in South America, it is
00:03:5952% of the gross product of all South America,
00:04:02so we have to understand this and not
00:04:05make mistakes. Now if there is a
00:04:08runoff between Lula and Flavio Bolsonaro,
00:04:12Argentina would have to maintain institutional silence in these coming
00:04:16weeks. But without a doubt, without a doubt,
00:04:19we have to
00:04:21I am going to say, because no, I am respect the will of the Brazilian people,
00:04:25and whether we do it or not, they will still do what they want, so
00:04:28they won't do it. Clear, now Aguelar,
00:04:33bond between Brazil and Argentina, I reformulate my colleague's question, will Argentina, in your
00:04:36opinion, with Miley as president, maintain institutional silence? I
00:04:39like to get to the point. I hope, I hope so, I think
00:04:43it's the right thing to do, not
00:04:46doing so would be, in my opinion, a
00:04:48mistake, good. Now, if for example Bolsonaro,
00:04:52Flavio Bolsonaro, were to win, what he is saying is that he
00:04:55is enthusiastic about winning in the first round.
00:04:59You. No, that cannot happen, neither of them
00:05:02will win in the first round, there will be a second round, yes, we are practically talking about
00:05:06a runoff from, I think it's October 25th, if I remember correctly,
00:05:10exactly, if Bolsonaro won. You, former
00:05:13ambassador to Brazil, would you recommend Miley travel?
00:05:15I
00:05:19think the good thing,
00:05:21if Lula won, no, if Lula wins, he doesn't
00:05:24travel, if Bolsonaro were to win
00:05:28and Aguelar being former ambassador, you call Miley and tell him
00:05:32to travel?
00:05:37The electorate will vote, I don't know what abstention there will be,
00:05:40probably 20 or 30%. But there are 160
00:05:44million Brazilians on the electoral roll,
00:05:47yes, the will of the Brazilian people, I believe that all Argentinians
00:05:51starting with the president, we must
00:05:54respect it, that without
00:05:57a doubt and celebrate that there will surely be a peaceful
00:06:01election, without fraud, therefore
00:06:03I believe that in any circumstance we have to get rid of
00:06:07the preferences that each one may have
00:06:11ideologically, but regardless of having
00:06:14ideological preferences, I insist, Argentina's interest is to
00:06:18strengthen ties with Brazil and its government, whoever
00:06:22it may be, especially and obviously, if it is elected by the
00:06:25people. Well, now Diego, you were saying just now Brazil, well, it goes from left to
00:06:29right, it was Lula, it was Bolsonaro, it comes and goes, it comes and goes, but the
00:06:33macro, you were saying just now, it rains in investments, for example, the macro
00:06:36is sustained, why doesn't Argentina achieve it? Because we
00:06:40don't have that situation of stability.
00:06:43Each government starts all over again, each administration is the
00:06:46negation of the previous one, we
00:06:49have a crack, not ideological passions, because look at
00:06:52Chile, Chile didn't move much either and went from one
00:06:56extreme of Boricha to the other of CAS, Uruguay the
00:06:59same, that is, our neighborhood has achieved institutional
00:07:03stability that we have not yet
00:07:07joined, sometimes we believe we are the most important, but it is not true,
00:07:10we are the ones at the tail end. We have not managed to put
00:07:14Argentina above partisan interests, that is what we
00:07:18lack, that is why the high country risk, today
00:07:20we have five times more country risk than the average of
00:07:24our neighbors, why does that happen? Because we
00:07:27do not offer stability and what
00:07:30interests Argentinians and foreigners is stability,
00:07:34after that there are ideological,
00:07:36political preferences, but perfect,
00:07:39that is a second topic.
00:07:43It is not the first topic, so we have to solve
00:07:46that, what would stability be, instead of
00:07:49thinking that it is paradise or
00:07:52hell, the result of
00:07:55the 27th, that it be neutral, that would be credibility,
00:07:59if whoever won the election of the 27th,
00:08:02Argentina continued to move forward, that is called
00:08:06stability, credibility, trust, beyond
00:08:10who the people elect. That is democracy, we
00:08:14have as pillars of our constitution alternation
00:08:17and diversity, that is, it is
00:08:21logical that there are governments of different signs in
00:08:25one, two elections, three elections, but that
00:08:28is democracy, our neighbors have achieved it, they have
00:08:32problems like we do, but they are growing in a
00:08:35sustained way, they have credibility, they have reserves, they have
00:08:39a stable currency, and well, that is the path we have
00:08:43to adopt, it is very simple, it is that of our neighbors, good,
00:08:46Diego, yes,
00:08:47go ahead,
00:08:52hello, how are you, I greet you, I wanted to
00:08:56ask you about what Miley declared, that if he is reelected in
00:08:592027, the year 2028 would be the
00:09:02best in Argentina's economic history, do you think
00:09:06this? Well, that is a wish that
00:09:10I share, I think it's very good. that we have
00:09:13a very good year 2028, I think there is no
00:09:16Argentinian who does not agree, now if we achieve
00:09:19it or not, we will see, today it is a wish,
00:09:37but Argentina also votes, there it is,
00:09:40we are live and direct with... you at the door of the Brazilian consulate in
00:09:44the heart of Buenos Aires, that's yours.
00:09:48And we are going to see how the voting continues here, which is a little delayed but but well
00:09:52many people keep coming, people keep coming, Carlitos
00:09:56to the place, guys, how are you all good?
00:09:59years, I am 21, 21 years
00:10:02old, well, a totally polarized country, it's a very
00:10:05important day for Brazil, for the future of Brazil, if it follows a line
00:10:08or if it changes course, which one do we choose?
00:10:25Yes, yes, I already voted, how long ago? Ah, he already voted, yes, yes, I already voted, electronic vote,
00:10:28no, yes, how was it? Was it fast or was the line
00:10:32I was in line two, which is a bit faster.
00:10:37mold. Why do I say this? Because most of the people who come with the Brazil
00:10:41jersey identify with Bolsonaro, that's why it caught my attention that you
00:10:44told me about Lula's supporter.
00:10:48What should I do this time? No, I put it here,
00:10:51yes, so that they don't confuse me with
00:10:55a Bolsonaro supporter, yes, what idea of a country do you think, obviously
00:10:58following Lula's line because you feel more identified with Lula and
00:11:02not say, well,
00:11:12we are connected with Alberto Fernández, Alberto Fernández, thank you for
00:11:15attending us at this moment, how do you see the
00:11:18election in Brazil and what do you think about the relationship if it can
00:11:22change, no, with respect to Argentina, Alberto. Generous of you,
00:11:25thank you for attending us, eh,
00:11:28please, good afternoon, how are you, good afternoon, eh, no,
00:11:32following with attention, everything that happens in Brazil
00:11:34clearly concerns us,
00:11:39the is not a triumph that has to do only with
00:11:42Brazil, it has to do with the whole region,
00:11:46and that the largest, largest economy of
00:11:49Latin America eh, remains in the hands of a responsible
00:11:53person, the name of. a democratic name above all
00:11:57things like Lula is something that should concern
00:11:59all of us, so I am following with great attention because I am also
00:12:03aware that we are living in a time
00:12:06where from the United States the
00:12:10polarization is forced,
00:12:13black stories are woven about popular
00:12:16leaders, yes, and the scandalous
00:12:19intrusion that one sees, the scandalous intrusion that we have seen in
00:12:23Bolivia where directly. they have taken
00:12:25Pelé,
00:12:28we don't know very well if
00:12:31he is in jail or kidnapped, we don't know very well what
00:12:35is happening to the prosecutor who was investigating him, but it is a
00:12:38proof of the level of scandalous interference of the United
00:12:41States in the region, well, yes,
00:12:45yes, let me ask you today, how do you see this
00:12:48Bolsonarism, much stronger than that of Jair
00:12:51Bolsonaro, which is even marking that... perhaps
00:12:55this identity can surpass its
00:12:58founder?
00:13:01I don't believe that, what I believe is that the
00:13:04appearance of Lula in Brazil began to generate
00:13:08an anti-Lula sentiment, similar to what in
00:13:11Argentina was
00:13:14Peronism and that at times everyone unites
00:13:17against him and then
00:13:21so many problems, so much pain he brought to
00:13:24Brazil. Now we are seeing it in Colombia, where an
00:13:27unusual character,
00:13:30of whom Colombians should feel ashamed, who is called los
00:13:34Priles, eh, has beaten Petro, who has done an
00:13:38impressive government and who managed to bring together all the
00:13:41popular forces against him, I don't
00:13:45believe that I want to believe that the people
00:13:49of Brazil are intelligent,
00:13:52wise people and will not go back to...
00:13:56voting for the son
00:13:59of an unhinged person who seems more unhinged than his father,
00:14:02frankly, I don't think he will do that. You, as
00:14:05former president, at some point also had that relationship with
00:14:09Brazil, at times closer, at times distant due to Jair
00:14:12Bolsonaro, what suits Argentina, to remain
00:14:16united with Brazil regardless of the president or to position itself
00:14:20due to the president that Brazil
00:14:22has? No, Argentina and Brazil are two
00:14:26countries inextricably linked by esteem and by
00:14:30interests, let's take into account that Brazil is our main
00:14:33trading partner, you just heard my opinion of Jair Bolsonaro,
00:14:37although you never heard me
00:14:40say this when I was president, neither
00:14:43mistreating President Bolsonaro, nor
00:14:47disqualifying him institutionally, nor
00:14:49disqualifying him ideologically, everyone knew that we had enormous
00:14:53differences, eh, but what had to be preserved was the
00:14:58what the president does not understand, I don't know
00:15:01if due to incapacity, due to ignorance, due to
00:15:05mental illness, I don't know, but what he doesn't understand is that
00:15:08with Brazil Argentina has to have a
00:15:11particularly close
00:15:15relationship, particularly close,
00:15:18because it is our main trading partner, it is the largest economy in the
00:15:22region, so, eh.
00:15:26To torpedo, pardon the
00:15:29somewhat academic term, but to torpedo the
00:15:32link between Brazil and Argentina is an
00:15:35absolute madness.
00:15:39Yes, yes, now you were talking about this torpedoing, is
00:15:43the situation reversible because in diplomatic terms
00:15:46we are going through one of the worst moments in terms of
00:15:50bilateral ties with Brazil, in fact we do not have today
00:15:54representation of the Brazilian ambassador due to the outbursts
00:15:57of President Miley against Lula da Silva, is this
00:16:00reversible? It is absolutely reversible and if it wasn't
00:16:04worse it was only because of the...
00:16:12because if President Lula had responded to Miley with the same
00:16:16coin that he tried to pay him with, today we would be
00:16:19in an enormous problem,
00:16:21enormous, enormous, so particularly I think
00:16:25that
00:16:28we have to reverse it, no, if it is possible to reverse it, we have to
00:16:32work to reverse the bad relationship that Miley
00:16:35has had with
00:16:39yes, with Brazil, now and let's trust
00:16:42that Lula will win again and continue acting with the wisdom that
00:16:45he always has, which is to pretend that a madman was talking to him
00:16:49and continue working with Argentina as it should. Well,
00:16:53now, eh, you as former president, eh, made
00:16:56economic decisions, if we see what is happening today in Brazil, it has economic stability, especially
00:16:59in the macroeconomy for many
00:17:02years, why doesn't Argentina achieve
00:17:04this?
00:17:06Well. many, eh, reasons that
00:17:10can lead or provide
00:17:13an explanation, Brazil for now is
00:17:17a country that has a society that believes in its currency even when they have had
00:17:21inflationary processes and have had anti-inflationary
00:17:24shocks, Brazilians never stopped
00:17:27believing in their currency, you have surely been in Brazil and
00:17:31when the time comes to exchange dollars for reais, it is very difficult
00:17:34for them and when they go to a bar they do not decorate in
00:17:38reais and they ask them to pay in reais, well, in
00:17:42Argentina that does not happen, in Argentina Argentinians save
00:17:45in dollars, they disbelieve in their currency
00:17:49and that makes Argentina have
00:17:53a demand for dollars, always
00:17:56permanent that definitely goes beyond
00:17:59the will of a government, that is almost
00:18:03Argentinians almost feel it as a right
00:18:07to access dollars, eh,
00:18:10without measuring the macroeconomic consequences for the
00:18:13country, there is an argument, there is an argument, the
00:18:16second argument is that Brazil is a country that has
00:18:20developed an industry that Argentina
00:18:23stopped developing
00:18:26and Brazil today is the seventh or eighth economy
00:18:29in the world, yes, and it is precisely the product of the industrial
00:18:33development it had, that is, when in the 50s,
00:18:36Argentina had its car
00:18:40and plane factory here, the
00:18:44revolution
00:18:44dismantled it.
00:18:49Well, now we are seeing that Lula is going for his fourth
00:18:52term, his first two terms he won, he won the election, he won well,
00:18:56the third one he also won, he won well, he is going for his fourth, something historical, who is the
00:19:00Argentinian Lula for you?
00:19:03There is no Argentinian
00:19:05Lula.
00:19:07Yes, some social networks made that comparison, let's say
00:19:11social networks, of course, we have to understand that
00:19:15Lula, like Perón, I didn't have the pleasure of
00:19:18knowing Perón, I knew him in my youth from Mario's
00:19:22square listening to him speak and from
00:19:25had, but I never had the opportunity to sit down and talk to
00:19:30the opportunity to talk many times with him
00:19:33his friend. Do you talk to him today? I suppose,
00:19:38yes, I suppose that Lula, that
00:19:41Perón was a character like
00:19:44Lula, they are people who have an enormous
00:19:47capacity to see reality, an enormous commitment to
00:19:51reality and an enormous, an enormous
00:19:53capacity to predict the future, understand well what
00:19:59not talking about that charlatanism, I am
00:20:02talking about being able to read the present and realize, realize
00:20:06the consequences that this present
00:20:10brings, there is a
00:20:13a an interview
00:20:17that Perón gave in 1972
00:20:20where Perón talks about what the
00:20:24world's climate crisis would be like in 1972
00:20:28and it seems like he said it yesterday, now
00:20:31that ability to predict what will happen
00:20:34to the world if it continues to do certain things is the same
00:20:38ability that Lula has, that's why Lula also didn't find
00:20:42a representative in Brazil, he didn't find one in
00:20:44Dilma,
00:20:47he didn't find one, he had to return.
00:20:52But just taking this topic, there are many similar things that we can draw a
00:20:55parallel between Argentina and Brazil. A little while ago
00:20:58we were talking about the procedural and legal situation
00:21:01of the different leaders,
00:21:04female leaders, here we compared the case of
00:21:07Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, do you think that Kirchnerism
00:21:10looks at what happened to Lula, having been
00:21:14imprisoned, returning to the presidency as a path to follow for
00:21:18Cristina?
00:21:50in some cases, now we are seeing it with
00:21:53Cristina, eh, the cases were
00:21:56founded on the laws of the repentant, which is a
00:22:00legislative disgrace that Argentina has that the United States
00:22:03promoted in the time of Macri and that in that context it was sanctioned in
00:22:07Argentina, the figure of the repentant makes someone who is
00:22:11convicted or prosecuted repent, accusing
00:22:14another of a crime and for that they lower the sentence, they did that
00:22:18with Lula, they do that with... Argentina and the painful case
00:22:22of the notebooks and also in the
00:22:25causality and well that's how we are, that's
00:22:28how we are, what I can say they have in common is that
00:22:32both, one suffered, that's why I went to see him
00:22:36when he was in prison when I was a presidential candidate,
00:22:39he was my friend, I loved him dearly, I knew what he was
00:22:42experiencing, I had written articles that were part of the
00:22:45international commission for
00:22:48Lula's freedom, the Pope.
00:22:59for having served us, he spoke with Lula lately,
00:23:02I didn't speak with Lula lately, I spoke yesterday
00:23:05with Morín, yes, and his
00:23:07foreign minister, he was his foreign minister, today he is
00:23:11his advisor, a kind of
00:23:13advisor
00:23:16and nothing, he was doing campaign things, I told him to tell him that...
00:23:21that I hope he wins today, because if Brazil wins and the
00:23:53I tell you, I'm already getting messages about Alberto Fernández's statements, it's going to cause a lot of
00:23:57trouble, what he said, the people didn't take to the streets for
00:23:59Cristina, no, no, but also this
00:24:02we leave, yes, yes,
00:24:06speaking alone, no, no, but trouble, but
00:24:09beyond that, it's a sensitive issue, it's a sensitive issue, but he said, but
00:24:13we also have to say another thing, he said that Lula to Cristina no, but
00:24:17here they already interpreted that.
00:24:50political risk was to visit him in prison and that is a good
00:24:53gesture that Lula always reciprocated to the
00:24:56former president,
00:24:59but unlike Miley who doesn't like Lula, this is already clear
00:25:02due to an ideological issue. Alberto never liked him, he called Jair
00:25:06Bolsonaro an unhinged person, he said Jair
00:25:10Bolsonaro is an unhinged person, but he never broke relations with Brazil,
00:25:13yes, be careful with what
00:25:17has to do with this because Eduardo Bolsonaro, the one who is a fugitive
00:25:28a great controversy that almost turned into a bilateral incident that had been a repression, I don't remember if a Boca or River team had to intervene, the
00:25:32ambassador also through at that time Daniel
00:25:35official
00:25:38who had to intervene to pacify that situation so that it would not
00:25:42turn into a cup Libertadores match, yes, they arrested a
00:25:44person for racism because in Brazil when you say "negro" they put you in jail, that is,
00:25:48racism is well established there. That's why this Argentina-Brazil relationship is
00:25:52very far from diplomacy, no, you, you ask, today
00:25:56yes, yes, well, now it also has to do with
00:26:00this, how each one plays because
00:26:03at the time, you just said it, when he went to visit him in
00:26:07prison, but Miley spoke about Bolsonaro, this is what Javier
00:26:11Miley said regarding today's election in Brazil,
00:26:13go ahead.
00:26:16We trust you, Flavio, to stop the socialist
00:26:20trash, the 21st century socialism has taken
00:26:24strong roots in this country,
00:26:26being the infamous São Paulo Forum
00:26:30founded by Lula da Silva and... Fidel
00:26:32Castro, a network key transnational for
00:26:36the dissemination of communism in the continent, today
00:26:40Latin American socialism is being eradicated
00:26:44election after election, Argentina,
00:26:47Colombia, Peru, Chile, Ecuador, and
00:26:50let's hope that in October it will also be Brazil
00:26:54liberal, we trust well there is Javier Miley talking
00:26:58about Bolsonaro, it is said that if Bolsonaro wins the
00:27:01election. Bolsonaro says he wins in the first round, beyond this
00:27:05uh there is a runoff on the 25th, if Bolsonaro wins, there is talk of a
00:27:08lightning trip by President Javier Mileiy to Brazil to
00:27:12celebrate with Bolsonaro, this is being talked about yes and a fact, no, that Javier
00:27:16Miley contributed, a liberal Brazil no, how far that liberalism
00:27:20or that right is so similar to Argentina, no, here we have the
00:27:23economist because Milei emphasizes the United States
00:27:26in Brazil which are all more protectionist industries
00:27:30that care more about the domestic no. unlike
00:27:32Argentina: well, there are two Mileys, one before the
00:27:36elections, another on platforms and another in
00:27:39political praxis, because in reality if we take what he
00:27:43says on the platforms, the most socialist of all is him,
00:27:46let's think that first he did not intervene, he did not destroy the central
00:27:49bank, second he has been intervening the currency with a dirty
00:27:53float, third he does not allow
00:27:56to freely agree on what the wage negotiations and salaries will be,
00:28:00with which for me the president. the most communist we have in
00:28:04Argentina in recent times, controversial what he says eh, no, no, no, I say it
00:28:08clearly, because really if you are liberal you have to contract with your
00:28:11actions, precisely with your
00:28:14actions, with your deeds what you are saying and Milei did none of that, he continues
00:28:18to intervene in the economy, he continues to raise taxes, he did not remove taxes, he did not
00:28:21remove the central bank, he continues to intervene in the value of the currency and above all
00:28:27is defended in capitalism is always industrial capacity.
00:28:31Carlos, why is it very important? I understand the election in
00:28:34Brazil, everyone is watching it and especially all of Latin
00:28:37America, because of the domino effect, it always happens, no, when
00:28:41the right wins, the left wins, the domino effect goes with the other elections in the other
00:28:45countries, so many are attentive that the domino effect in
00:28:48Brazil can go to the right
00:29:02very polarized situation, Lula Bolsonaro and we are going to talk here with
00:29:05the people, good afternoon, good,
00:29:09how are you, how hard-fought, how divided everything is, it's true,
00:29:13there are many, many candidates, I mean, but everyone focuses on, Lula or
00:29:17Bolsonaro, yes, I feel that it is a
00:29:19global trend that the elections are quite
00:29:23polarized, just as it was in 2022,
00:29:262018 it will continue, it seems to me, and
00:29:29you, until the end, I am.
00:29:32because I am for quality, universal public education,
00:29:36I am for health, uh, no,
00:29:39bad guys, and the truth is that since my mother is
00:29:43a teacher, I know the difference that Lula makes in the lives of the poorest
00:29:46people, the people who need it most, he is the only one
00:29:51poverty, out of hunger, so for me
00:29:54it is quite
00:30:05eh, very important for Brazil, clear, yes, difference, there is talk
00:30:08of a minimal difference from Lula, what country do we think for
00:30:11Brazil, that Lula continues or
00:30:15Bolsonaro, do we make a change, that Lula continues for me, that Lula continues,
00:30:18clear, Bolsonaro, no, no, why
00:30:22not, because for us who live
00:30:25here, Lula, no, no, no,
00:30:28you have to talk about all the education, the
00:30:31health. what he does with the others, with the poor, with
00:30:34the workers, you see,
00:30:38let's take advantage that the line is going, it was a bit, all
00:30:41of you, for example, what do you feel when
00:30:44I say Bolsonaro campaigns and most
00:30:48of the Bolsonaristas wear the Brazil shirt, as if whoever does not choose
00:30:52Bolsonaro is not a true Brazilian, no, that is stained
00:30:55with the history of Brazil because well if
00:30:59us who
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