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00:00:00I'm already lost, it turned right, left, I'm already lost, let's see Christian,
00:00:03go, go, go, it's a very typical neighborhood, typical, not
00:00:07quiet street, come on, let's see Cristian, come on, there are
00:00:11horror stories, I'm with the neighbor, how many years living in Parque
00:00:15Chas, 15 years, 15 years, have you gotten lost,
00:00:19the bike shop, several people know have you ever been disoriented, no, no, because there's a mnemonic
00:00:22rule, all the streets that are neither
00:00:26cities nor capitals of Europe exit.
00:00:30From the Incas to La Pampa, the rest
00:00:33turn, mnemonic rule, Liverpool said,
00:00:37if you didn't know that technique, then you get lost, yes, you get lost, there
00:00:40it is, what legend have you heard these years, few,
00:00:44they talk about legends but I haven't heard much,
00:00:48thank you, uh, good luck guys, let's go explore then what
00:00:51he tells us, uh, there are streets that lead you to the
00:00:54avenues, there are others that have no, no exit,
00:00:57uh, they have no exit.
00:01:00people don't know it's a labyrinth, we are entering without
00:01:03GPS, it's the first time I enter, it's the first time you enter
00:01:06too, it's the first time he enters, so
00:01:10it has a lot of history, here someone tells me
00:01:14everyone has their own way of moving within Parque de Chas,
00:01:17no, some tell you to turn all the way left, all the way left, you turn
00:01:21left, you enter and turn left, where
00:01:24are you going, never turn right, ask
00:01:28the neighbors if it's true. that they are telling me, I am, I don't know, for
00:01:32they are lying to me, since I am so innocent, they
00:01:35always tell me to the left, let's see Christian, come on, look at that beautiful mural, Christian, there's
00:01:39a neighbor there, stop him, good, good, good, we are in
00:01:42how are you neighbor, how are we, a question, we are in the park
00:01:46exploring, you get lost and you don't know, give me a rule, a
00:01:49rule not to get lost here, please, you are a
00:01:52labyrinth,
00:01:56from Morón is still turning with let's see, let's see, there's the rule,
00:03:08I'm going to give you a more complicated fact about Parque Chas, I live 10
00:03:11blocks away, Gandara street, now everyone knows
00:03:15Parque Chas, no, but Gandara street, Gandara
00:03:18crosses like it's like a pizza but in the middle,
00:03:22before, 6 months ago, it was two-way and now it's over, it's
00:03:25only one-way in the direction of Constituyentes, so you can
00:03:29get lost. More ah, it aggravates the
00:03:33situation then, of course, it aggravates the situation, two-way
00:03:36until 6 months ago when it became one-way in the direction
00:03:39of Constituyentes, let's see, let's see Christian, let's see Christian,
00:03:43if you're on Gandara, if Gandara if you go the wrong way, you'll reach
00:03:47the square, let's see, you'll reach the six corners,
00:03:50clear, clear, which is the idea is to slowly get into
00:03:54the neighborhood, how are the neighbors, let's see, a rule, girls, so I don't
00:03:57get lost here in Parque Chas, yes, battery and
00:04:00GPS, we have to know the main ones, there are the main streets
00:04:03and if I take the ones that have European
00:04:07province names, I get lost, circles, sure, I can be here all day
00:04:11going around, girls, whatever, I'll make smoke signals, well,
00:04:14it's me, there are three streets that take you out, imagine the police
00:04:18making the grid here and he doesn't know, no, but it's
00:04:21terrible, besides, I don't know if it seems to me, maybe it's the long
00:04:25weekend, I don't see much
00:04:27movement, ah.
00:04:41notice that we are in the Porteña He's with GPS, we're doing a challenge without GPS to see if we get out of here, no,
00:04:44from here, no, neighbors, do you know any legends,
00:04:48have you heard anything, they're not neighbors, they're from Morón, they came to visit,
00:04:52it would be her home, it's what yes, I know the story of Dolinar,
00:04:55right, you're right, I don't remember well but he would enter Parque Chas and never
00:04:59leave. He could never find the exit, I don't remember well how it was years ago, give me the
00:05:03title, Robert, I see the title of Dolina's story,
00:05:07thank you, chronicle of the
00:05:08angel,
00:05:11for the friends from Morón who are with the GPS trying
00:05:15to leave, I don't know, besides the west
00:05:18zone is far, chronicles of the
00:05:21angel, well, well, come on, come on,
00:05:25we are, that's the square, Christian, that's the
00:05:29square, we are in one of the squares, this is one of the squares because
00:05:32it has several, we are in Bauness, look this is
00:05:35Bauness and Gandara, Bauness guys, attention, Bauness is
00:05:39a street that at one point collides with itself. It's something
00:05:42mysterious, I who know a lot about Parque Chas square,
00:05:46we are good, very good, nice to meet you, what's your name,
00:05:49that's the famous club del Trébol, Tito, nice to meet you, Tito, Tito Fortunato from
00:05:53here from the neighborhood, do you like food, how old are you,
00:05:5676, I have completed, all your life, so you know
00:06:00the neighborhood very well, and yes, tell me some
00:06:04story about the neighborhood because we are talking about a quite
00:06:07complex neighborhood with its mysteries and its all
00:06:11clear particular. the boy here at the club always
00:06:14existed, there is the club which is very famous and now
00:06:17here inside the club there is a center for
00:06:20retirees, solidary heart, and I am waiting for the president to come
00:06:24and open the pool to have a meeting with all the retired people, how is it
00:06:27that after so many years here in the neighborhood, you have
00:06:30met people who have gotten lost,
00:06:33look, I know, there are,
00:06:36I live almost a block from unity
00:06:401900, a lot of people
00:06:43left the neighborhood or went to other neighborhoods
00:06:46to
00:06:49pass
00:06:52here and now, of course, and my question, something mysterious that has happened to you
00:06:55in the neighborhood in all these years, something mysterious, a
00:06:58strange experience here in the neighborhood with all the legends there are
00:07:02here, I lived a good childhood, you know, although
00:07:05we were a little, we were very poor, my dad insisted
00:07:08that I study and
00:07:13and work, let's continue, let's continue,
00:07:16let's continue, thank you very much, listen,
00:07:20I'll give you some information, Saviola came out of the clover, you're
00:07:23right, famous players, Chicho Batista, Chicho Batista, Chicho
00:07:27Batista, world champion, come on, Carito, look, I have some information for you,
00:07:31here what they are telling me is that the oldest
00:07:34neighbor is on Campillo street and Pasaje de las Indias
00:07:38in a bike shop right now that is open, he got lost and never went back
00:07:41home.
00:07:58You should have brought the dog, are you located where you are, Christian, because I
00:08:02have to walk, I'm in Dublin, well, one of the streets they told me I can't
00:08:06take, neighbor, neighbor, excuse me, a rule so I don't get lost here
00:08:09in Parque Chas, is there any rule?
00:08:12I want to ask, we are getting to know the neighborhood here in Parque Chas and they tell us that it is very particular, it has many legends, how are you? Good?
00:08:28Everything good? What are the rules here in the neighborhood, mainly not to
00:08:32get disoriented, you have to go out to
00:08:35the main avenues, for example, here at the roundabout you go out to Victorica and then Los
00:08:39Incas, and if not, you go out towards Pampa, someone who doesn't know
00:08:43and I, who am with the team without GPS and we really want to enter
00:08:46those streets that have many legends, right? They say that a group
00:08:50of French explorers entered and
00:08:53came out in a neighborhood 3 km away, or for example, that group
00:08:57of Catalans who also came to do like a block walk and
00:09:01didn't come out where they were supposed to come out, have you heard any legends like that in the
00:09:04neighborhood? Yes, yes, there are several legends of the neighborhood that
00:09:08the creator, the founder of Parque Chas, lived here, here
00:09:12on La Haya street and Triunvirato, uh-huh, and well,
00:09:15he passed away several years ago, but that house remained so
00:09:19emblematic, first houses, he's talking about the house
00:09:22that was left on the haunted street that are
00:09:26taken by Victorica
00:09:29and more or less three blocks to your right before Pampa, listen to me, have you
00:09:33or a family member had a situation like that, let's say,
00:09:36strange, that you got lost or disoriented? Not me
00:09:40because I'm from the neighborhood, I grew up here, but you never got disoriented, no, no,
00:09:43no, all the streets here are circular, you know, you have
00:09:47different capitals, I don't know, a person who came and is really
00:09:50disoriented, lost here in the neighborhood, yes, it's quite common, if you're not from the neighborhood, you get lost
00:09:54and you see them going through the same place again and
00:09:57yes, yes, yes, besides, I
00:10:00think we've already passed here, we're looking for parking to get to know the neighborhood
00:10:04and a coffee shop was also created here here where the roundabout is,
00:10:08let's go there, yes, go there, it's very good there, it gets full of
00:10:11people.
00:10:20Daniel told you about the creator of Parque Chas who passed away some years ago but
00:10:24we are going. The house is open to interpretation,
00:10:27right? There is the house and it was left there, I take it as the
00:10:31house is something, I don't know,
00:10:34haunted, let's say, mystery inside that house of the founder of
00:10:37Parque Chas, watch out, do you have more messages, Carito, let us know, let's see, yes, yes,
00:10:40we have, well, here they tell us the same about
00:10:44it, so the oldest man is famous, here they put "good excuse to
00:10:47cheat", he
00:10:50always wants to cheat because
00:10:53trampa porque
00:11:25I'm from Urquiza actually, but I come here to the nearby plaza, do you
00:11:28like it, have you gotten lost, I mean, have you gotten disoriented, I say lost but disoriented
00:11:32with the streets, yes, but I always take the same route, so
00:11:35I don't get lost, you never dared to change it, but once I came with my bike
00:11:39and I got really lost, you know, how long were you lost,
00:11:43I don't know, I was just going around in circles, of course, I started asking and they
00:11:46told me to follow this street called Bauness and then it changed its name, the same
00:11:50street, so it was very crazy, of course, of course, because
00:11:54it's a labyrinth. The same street, Bauness, collides with itself, it changes
00:11:58its name suddenly, so no,
00:12:00well, we'll let you continue, eh, come on, thanks, let's see, there we have
00:12:04other neighbors, clear, Christian, it's complicated, you
00:12:07know, you go down a street with a name and at some point you look up and the
00:12:10name changed, hey, when do you leave the street and you get
00:12:14lost there, you turn right, keep turning, keep
00:12:17turning, the couple
00:12:21the GPS looking for a way out, come on, come on, the
00:12:24man... lost, no, there it is, let's see, can I ask the neighbor, we are in Parque Chas, we are here for
00:12:28the news, neighbor, excuse me, we are touring and getting to know Parque
00:12:32Chas, many legends, many mysteries
00:12:35and if you don't know it, you get disoriented, it's a wonderful
00:12:38neighborhood, there's no doubt, it's the safest
00:12:42neighborhood in the capital, and yes, I mean,
00:12:46there's no problem with thieves getting lost, crime,
00:12:49of course, thieves get lost, they don't get lost, yes, thieves get lost,
00:12:53of course, for example, of course, that, any anecdote, I don't
00:12:57know, that you can tell us about the neighborhood, thieves have gotten lost and are still wandering around
00:13:00here, any anecdote you can tell us, there is, I don't know if Borges
00:13:04was the one who wrote that there was a
00:13:07very sick man and death didn't come for him and he got
00:13:11lost,
00:13:13the man is still alive, I don't know, it's a legend, oh, look how nice, I
00:13:17like it, it's a very quiet, very nice neighborhood,
00:13:21of course, it's residential, buses can't pass,
00:13:25any type of business can be enabled, of course, it's good,
00:13:29have you ever heard the legend of this taxi driver who came to pick up
00:13:32a client and said, "I won't drop you off on Avenida de los Incas, I won't enter that neighborhood,"
00:13:36that used to happen many years ago, not today,
00:13:40today it's a neighborhood that nowadays with GPS, but before taxi drivers didn't
00:13:44want to enter, no, no, no, they didn't want to enter, it's true, but they didn't
00:13:47want to enter because they got lost because of the horror
00:13:50stories, they didn't want to get in because they got lost because of the stories that were
00:13:54told here. They didn't get lost, it's a difficult neighborhood, I mean, the streets
00:13:57are difficult, difficult as you already have two
00:14:00places where you can exit, Gandara and
00:14:04Victorica, the avenue that goes from Agronomía to
00:14:08Triunvirato, I'm not from here, from the six-corner squares because there's a
00:14:11square that if I do a 360-degree tour, I see six corners
00:14:15which is something quite, there can be six corners, six
00:14:17corners, the block is broken, uh,
00:14:21this one is not, it's another one, oh, this is the clover, the one that is
00:14:25there, the one that is there, I don't remember the
00:14:28not the six-corner one, you turn right and then you hit it, I don't know if it has six
00:14:32corners, it doesn't have four, there it is, and why do they call it six
00:14:36corners and it has four, inflation they tell you now,
00:14:40why do they call it six corners and it has four, they say it doesn't have, there are six,
00:14:43come on, I don't know it, we continue exploring, Christian, we continue, we continue, we continue,
00:14:47we continue, I will continue, thank you, my dear, thank you, we continue, we continue, your
00:14:50name, Jorge, my dear, a pleasure, we have
00:14:53a message, we have another message, someone is
00:14:57also writing to us, and is telling us the following, good afternoon, I'm
00:15:01Cristian, once a friend took me to eat a barbecue at his house at
00:15:0511 in the morning, he says he lives in front of a water fountain that is
00:15:08in Gandara, at 11 at night he left with a few too many drinks
00:15:12and what happened, he got lost, he was lost for more than 45 minutes and had to
00:15:16call his friend to help him, also with his friend
00:15:19they were lost for 15 more minutes around there, so they got lost
00:15:23anyway, at 11 at night, a drink.
00:16:08the beautiful turn and now there will also be a food truck from other people
00:16:12spectacular we want to know because we are interested in talking to
00:16:14people from here from the neighborhood who have lived here all their lives we walk with someone who knows how to
00:16:18move around what's your name, dear, it's called "La Vuelta"
00:16:21live and direct cafe in Parque Chas, uh, Maute is
00:16:25her name, Maute, Maute is unique, no, like the way
00:16:29they urbanize, no, like this place was urbanized, how the
00:16:33streets are makes people meet, well
00:16:36also
00:16:50everyone met here, that happens and there are many artists, many
00:16:53people with cultural level, it's beautiful, the truth is that Parque Chas is
00:16:57a world apart for Buenos Aires, it's unique, eh, it's
00:17:00unique, it's totally unique, here at the clover,
00:17:04I'm not the one who knows the most but always
00:17:07licensed, everyone gathers here, well, it's
00:17:11what do I know, they come to football and everyone meets, they leave with their mate,
00:17:15the whole town, the whole neighborhood, as if it preserves that
00:17:18neighborhood feeling that perhaps some neighborhoods lost, here it is
00:17:21preserved, look, it seems that the neighbors found out that Crónica Televisión is
00:17:25touring Parque Chas and I see that there are some ladies who start to come out a
00:17:29little and we really want to know stories, I don't know if I should say
00:17:33paranormal stories but there are many stories, legends let's say
00:17:36that.
00:18:07fincas and another one I don't remember if it was
00:18:10Bauness
00:18:12uh and if you tell me how to get there, I'll tell you something, I'll tell you that
00:18:16because the idea is without GPS, it was to do it and it's to do it without GPS because here
00:18:20the curves, everything leads you to the meeting, we'll see you on the other corner at the
00:18:24coffee shop.
00:18:27Let me tell you this, Christian, someone is writing to me, Pablo writes to me and says,
00:18:31"Negrito, there's a legend, I don't know if we can check this, Christian, that you're
00:18:34walking through Parque Chas, there's a legend that says that even
00:18:38today, today, in reality, there's a bus
00:18:42with passengers that has been going around for 40
00:18:45years, lost in Parque Chas," it's an urban
00:18:49legend, the
00:18:51187 internal 23, ghost
00:18:55bus, they sent me, I was also going to ask him just now but I was waiting
00:18:59for him to finish with the lady because they told me to ask him about the ghost
00:19:02bus, if he knows that they meet at the two
00:19:06terrible corners. Let's see Christian, ask about this legend
00:19:09and many others that may exist uh well, precisely, I was precisely
00:19:12asking Mauna that because you were saying you've
00:19:16heard all kinds of stories, I was telling you what Dani was telling us about the
00:19:19story of the bus that has been going around for 40 years, you have also heard
00:19:23many things, I heard something about the bus but above
00:19:27all it's about coming and feeling how people still have a bit
00:19:30of a community idea, of neighbors, of a town, the mystique
00:19:34the neighborhood has a lot of mystique exactly and many artists,
00:19:37great ones live here, from cinema, from theater, eh,
00:19:41literature, here we are arriving, we got into a time machine
00:19:45in Suarez, the route of the 187
00:19:49that got lost, you know there's a corner called Bauness and
00:19:52Bauness, Bauness and Bauness, because it's Bauness where it breaks and there's a
00:19:55corner, so which one is Bauness and Bauness, look how good, Bauness and
00:19:59Bauness, okay, okay, I understood it, I understood it, I understood it, let's see, Christian, come on,
00:20:03ask people if they know about the lost bus, let's go to the
00:20:06cafe, look. Look, you have, look, I want to give you context,
00:20:10you have a bookstore, book store, you have a
00:20:13bar, coffee shop next door, and you also have a food truck with some snacks, eh,
00:20:18Bermuda Triangle and we are going to enter, let's see, I'm going in, eh, come on, we are with the
00:20:22camera, excuse me, how are the guys, a pleasure, coffee, how are
00:20:25you, listen, it's a coffee shop to meet here, you
00:20:29get lost here, you find yourself, you get lost, you
00:20:31find yourself,
00:20:34uh, excuse me, do you have any rules not to get lost, they told me not to
00:20:38take this street, not to take another road, uh, look, take
00:20:41Gandara, we'll be right back, Rodo is calling us urgently,
00:20:45come on, come on, come on, don't
00:20:48get lost, please.
00:20:54Latest
00:20:55news,
00:21:02loans, debts, and
00:21:04threats. Jimena owes 5
00:21:08million,
00:21:11she claims the lenders are harassing her.
00:21:15Her mom is holding a raffle to raise money and pay off the
00:21:19debts. My daughter sold everything,
00:21:23she tried to commit suicide.
00:21:36Jimena, who is the daughter, we are 60
00:21:39km from the federal capital, nothing
00:21:42of what Jimena sold was enough to pay that sum that you
00:21:46rightly said, she sold everything from
00:21:49windows of... Ana,
00:21:52sheets from her room, the
00:21:55kitchen, the refrigerator, a
00:21:59box spring, well, nothing is
00:22:02enough for a loan, then she took out another one to cover the
00:22:05first one, then she had to take out a third one to pay the
00:22:08first and second one, she had to take out a fourth one to
00:22:12see if she could face the third, the second and the
00:22:15first, she owes four loans, she lost
00:22:19her main income which was selling clothes here in
00:22:23José C. Paz, it's a chaotic situation, on top of that, as
00:22:27you rightly said, with this decision she made
00:22:30of a suicide attempt, well, everything is very chaotic, we are
00:22:34with Jimena, we are with Graciela, well,
00:22:36Jimena, everything starts from what, you started
00:22:40to have, like every entrepreneurship, the dream of
00:22:43having a job, you started to have a clothes store, is that right, a clothes
00:22:46store, used clothes, new clothes, I had a bit of
00:22:50everything, uh, well, I started well at first, uh,
00:22:54then sales started to go down, to
00:22:57be able to want to have more and have a big store,
00:23:00uh, I took out a loan, uh, I started
00:23:04paying, then it became difficult for me
00:23:06because nothing was selling anymore,
00:23:09I asked for another one to cover a part of that and be able to buy more things, then
00:23:13it got complicated with the second one, uh,
00:23:16I asked for a third one again to be able to cover a bit of the first, first and
00:23:20second and buy more merchandise, it also got
00:23:23complicated for me, another one appeared, offered me another one and
00:23:27I also took it to cover a part of the rent,
00:23:30uh, to be able to cover the others but it wasn't enough, and when I
00:23:34realized, I already had uh five
00:23:37daily payment lenders that I couldn't pay,
00:23:41I ended up asking for monthly, it got complicated again
00:23:43more, uh, until well, I couldn't take it anymore and on April
00:23:474th, uh, I had my first suicide
00:23:50attempt, no that they saved me at the
00:23:53hospital and and well, now what's left for me is
00:23:57to be able to pay, I can't find work, I go out to sell at the fair and some days it
00:24:01sells, some days it doesn't, uh, I started selling
00:24:04food, eh, I also sold well for a week,
00:24:08then nothing sold anymore,
00:24:12uh, now on August 28th, I tried to throw myself under the train,
00:24:15no, please, but well, I don't know, something
00:24:18made me go back home and while
00:24:21we are going to show now the room where Jimena sleeps,
00:24:25you are a mother of how many children, of five, I have five
00:24:28children, four live with me, the oldest one, uh, she moved in because she has a
00:24:32girl and and
00:24:35well, so I'm with the four youngest children, in
00:24:38this room that we are showing,
00:24:41we see how many beds, three beds,
00:24:44how many people sleep there, I sleep in one
00:24:47below with the youngest one, in the other
00:24:50one sleeps my 17-year-old son and in the other
00:24:53one sleeps my 11-year-old son, my 13-year-old daughter doesn't
00:24:57sleep with me, she sleeps with my mom because uh well, I sold the box spring and it's the two box springs I
00:25:00had, so she had to go to sleep with
00:25:04my mom, let's say, of course, now we were
00:25:07sleeping at my mom's because the other day an outlet caught fire and I was left without
00:25:11electricity, so we are sleeping, my youngest son,
00:25:15uh, my mom, my 13-year-old
00:25:18daughter and I in the bed and then my other son throws a mattress and
00:25:22the other one sleeps on the couch because when it rains we can't be here and even less without
00:25:26electricity, I invite you to
00:25:28connect
00:25:31while you were listening to the note, Dani, the
00:25:34last thing, eh, she doesn't have a door in the
00:25:38I say room, no, because it's like
00:25:42she arranged as a room and it's good, no,
00:25:45Rodo, excuse me, Rodo, you're telling me she doesn't have an access door, she doesn't
00:25:49have, she doesn't have a door directly, the house doesn't
00:25:52have a door, no, no,
00:25:55because the other half, the house was longer,
00:25:58the other half, eh, since I didn't
00:26:02have. and my sister had nowhere to live, I sold her half last
00:26:05year and a wall was built, I had the door to
00:26:09put it, but since I was building last year that
00:26:12I had bought everything to be able to
00:26:14finish, eh, then I sold all the doors and didn't put the
00:26:18door, I had a curtain directly that I took off now
00:26:21because well, with the rain, I had to wash it, you mean you sold the
00:26:25door of your house to be able to cancel part
00:26:29of the loan, half of the house, that is, you sold almost
00:26:32everything, I mean I sold everything yes,
00:26:36and and how much do you still have left, I was left with these beds, luckily,
00:26:39how much do you owe today now to cover and
00:26:43stay yes, to cover and stay
00:26:46calm, to be able to sleep peacefully, it's approximately 5
00:26:49million, 5 million pesos,
00:26:53no, eh, and and she practically sold everything
00:26:56she has in the house to be able to cover the hole, no, the
00:26:59desperation, I don't want to get into what Rodo was saying, which is the intention
00:27:03to take her own life, do you have support, you
00:27:07have a professional who is accompanying you, eh,
00:27:09I, I was with treatment,
00:27:12eh, I stopped the treatment because the
00:27:16pills, I had to take two a day and I was completely
00:27:19drugged, so I couldn't help my mom with the kids, eh, my mom is
00:27:23an elderly lady, which was a huge burden for her, so
00:27:27I decided to stop the treatment, in the second suicide attempt I had,
00:27:32recover, and leave the burden of raising my mom didn't come to the hospital because if they took me, they'd admit me, and
00:27:36they told me it was 15 days to a month, yes, and it was
00:27:40too much for her to stay with the kids. Of course, that's why I'm not
00:27:43hospitalized. Yes, I understand. You had to
00:27:47choose: either get hospitalized and
00:27:50your children to your mom,
00:27:53or not get hospitalized and help your old lady and take care of your
00:27:57kids, even with the suffering of
00:28:00having attempted to take your life. No, it's a
00:28:03terrible story. Now it's terrible. Where, I ask the
00:28:07following, no, where where are you
00:28:10living? Because maybe people can come, they can
00:28:13donate a bed, they can donate some bricks, they can donate
00:28:17cement, they can donate the door, they can help you in some
00:28:20way so that you little by little and with some things
00:28:24can get ahead. Where do you live, where is your house located, what
00:28:28street? Uh, José C. Paz, La
00:28:31Paz neighborhood, uh, Andrés Blanqui street, 3628.
00:28:35Yes, well, when Rodo, our colleague Jime,
00:28:39darling, was talking about threats, yes.
00:28:41Uh, how long have you been suffering these threats, and
00:28:45how are they, in what way do they
00:28:47threaten you?
00:28:50Uh, no, look, the Colombians, I have lenders who don't
00:28:53rush me, uh, they know my situation, and they're not rushing me. These
00:28:57are the monthly ones, the daily ones that I owe, and it's been
00:29:018 months now.
00:29:03They are Colombians who come on
00:29:06motorcycles, I don't know their names because the ones you
00:29:10owe monthly are Argentinians, they are lenders who
00:29:13know you, they are Argentinians, they say "stop, I understand, I'll give you a little more
00:29:17time." Now, the Colombians threaten you every day, they are the ones
00:29:21who charge you daily, right? And when they tell you the threats, they
00:29:24are face-to-face, they approach your house
00:29:26on their motorcycles.
00:29:28And they don't want... what they tell you is, "This could get
00:29:32worse, the others will come." And
00:29:35they don't use anyone's names, why?
00:29:38Because they don't deal with transfers, they deal with
00:29:42cash, because if they dealt with transfers, if
00:29:45I wanted to report them, I would have their data, of course. So what do they do? They
00:29:49deal with cash so as not to leave any trace of anything, of course, of course,
00:29:53of course. And they approach, it catches my attention, it
00:29:57worries me when it says "the others," because the
00:30:00threat, there are several, because one keeps falling. No, no, but the others
00:30:03I think are the ones who will try to assassinate her, or because the
00:30:07ones who threaten her with death are like that. Jimena, do you interpret the same as me?
00:30:11When they say "the others," they are the ones who do the dirty work,
00:30:13right?
00:30:15Of course, well, the last time uh that I answered them, because after that I told my
00:30:19brother to directly tell them that I wasn't there,
00:30:23many times they came when I was at my appointment with the psychiatrist or the
00:30:27psychologist, uh, and I just grabbed and told him, "Well, tell them I'm at the
00:30:31doctor," uh, I would tell him in the end, because the
00:30:34last time I spoke, one grabbed and told
00:30:37me, "I want the money, and I want it now, I don't care about your problems." So I
00:30:41grabbed and told him, "Well, you have enough to eat every day, sometimes I don't even have enough to
00:30:45buy a package of rice for my children," I tell him, "so
00:30:48understand that I don't have it," because I'm giving you an idea, I tell him, "so you
00:30:52know my situation, I tell him, I have things
00:30:55to sell, I tell him, uh, but well, at the moment they don't
00:30:58come out."