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00:00:00of a policeman, I want to make that clear, I want to tell the
00:00:03doctor, the complaint was for a trigger-happy homicide,
00:00:07and I at no time considered that the policeman acted as
00:00:10trigger-happy, far from that, what we talked about was the
00:00:14excess because the quantity of shots, how he shot at
00:00:17the person, I have everything proven in the case, doctor,
00:00:20unfortunately, that position,
00:00:24the criterion that you have and Dr. Soto who is here present was the one who
00:00:28was acting as Chocobar's defender. And he could see the way and what I
00:00:32presented and the way I did it, undoubtedly I cannot
00:00:35avoid it when all parties, including, consider what
00:00:39I consider was an excess. What is being
00:00:43judged here, based on a position that at no time is against the
00:00:47police, is manifesting in a concrete case what
00:00:50this public ministry requested because it understood that it was what
00:00:53was appropriate. Undoubtedly there was an excess and I cannot
00:00:57help but point it out in the face of the practically
00:01:01accusation I receive at this
00:01:03tears, they decided to stay in moment, which seems completely, excuse me, unprecedented to my
00:01:0650-year career as prosecutor, and I can assure you that you
00:01:09can observe from the different positions I held that I always
00:01:13did it by studying the case.
00:01:16So when we vote for a prosecutor for minors, we have to know what her
00:01:20actions have been in concrete cases of public
00:01:24knowledge, like the Chocobar case, who
00:01:27was unjustly condemned, when he had
00:01:31saved a person's life. What I also say is that he didn't
00:01:35save them because you save when you hand over the camera and leave,
00:01:38he didn't save them, he didn't shoot when he's not... a technical
00:01:41detail because he didn't save him, what he tried to do was stop a person
00:01:45by shooting at them, that's all I have to
00:01:48what, you know what I gave, everything point out, because at no point did he save the victim, the victim was already
00:01:51lying down, already on the ground when he passed by
00:01:54there. A
00:01:57prosecutor with authority in front of...
00:02:01that Patricia is in the eye of the storm between whether she's friends or
00:02:05fighting with Mil, they're not
00:02:07most known worldwide, right? One of friends, I think they're friends, well they were in the quinta de
00:02:10Oliva together. Uh, I think Patricia has more desire to go
00:02:14her own way but well she understands that there's a movement, yes but she tried many times
00:02:17Patricia but it doesn't fit or it fits where there's a place here they're wrong
00:02:21in both aspects I think the prosecutor also partly
00:02:24has specific details she
00:02:28shot a person who was escaping, yes. who had stabbed, we are talking about the
00:02:32Chocobar case, Chocobar, that
00:02:35the medical board were partially criminal had stabbed a tourist, a foreign tourist, several
00:02:38times to rob him and in that she also didn't explain
00:02:41that, so you see that she didn't explain it well that we are having cuts
00:02:45guys out there. For me the error is, for me the error
00:02:49is above because in a democratic system it
00:02:52discuss it, it was within is characterized by the three
00:02:55compare himself, I don't know, everyone compares themselves to absolutely independent powers, executive power,
00:02:58judicial power and legislative power.
00:03:08The prosecutor, let's see, you have to understand this very technical, because legitimate
00:03:11defense is given, it is also given by the degree of
00:03:14proportionality, proportionality goes against
00:03:17what is legitimate defense, it is legitimate defense, he acted in
00:03:21good faith, he acted in the exercise of a function,
00:03:26And Fernando Burlando is the lawyer for yes, now we are looking at proportionality, based on that, it ends. He was sentenced
00:03:31important, what to 2 years for Chocobar, so what is the prosecutor seeing? The truth is
00:03:34she sees only one, one parameter, but in
00:03:38criminal matters, unfortunately, a prosecutor, you may be 50
00:03:42years old, but the truth is you seem like an
00:03:44that, I'm going to take away listening to ass because the exante, the
00:03:46judicial power does not have to be accountable to the legislative
00:03:49or
00:03:51executive power.
00:03:54his house and let him sit in an
00:03:56independent court.
00:04:00explanation proportionality, that's what
00:04:03that refers to, proportionality with the possibilities of
00:04:07legitimate defense, now there is a criminal act, one was
00:04:11stabbed many times and
00:04:14of them, what the doctor says ended up seriously injured, but who do you give explanations to, who are you giving
00:04:16explanations to, the legislative power, the executive power, to
00:04:19whom, why, if it's an independent power, the judicial
00:04:23power, that's what democracy is based on, well, but why did she sit down, she's
00:04:27the one who went, did someone force her? So
00:04:31it has to
00:04:32He compared himself all the time, no, what
00:04:44be independent, it's the basis of our democratic system, unless
00:04:48the prosecutor wants a seat, let's see, from a
00:04:51prosecutor she has to go to the chamber prosecutor and with this she's seeking media attention
00:04:55which could be because many use the media to climb, we can
00:04:59make the... the honor of saying the phrase within the
00:05:02law everything and outside the law
00:05:05nothing, I mean, I mean, we can also
00:05:08move
00:05:11reached a position, one is president of along that edge yes. Yes, but if there's a case, there's a judicial
00:05:15case that had first instance, had
00:05:18appeals, there's a judicial system that has up to the supreme
00:05:21court, what does a legislative or
00:05:25executive power have to do with interfering, they are three different powers,
00:05:28and why do we see and why do we see this picture, why does it happen, because she
00:05:32demands it and why does the prosecutor give
00:05:36explanations, if a ruling was bad, but within
00:05:39each power when we say. dangerous
00:05:42for a democratic system, that's what I think, well you
00:05:45know, let's make a point in this tape and we're going to move
00:05:49on to another one that has to do with politics, with the show and the spectacle too,
00:05:53you know, we all know what happened with Messi who
00:05:56said goodbye in that game eh on
00:05:59Tuesday and what Javier Miley did, what Javier
00:06:02Miley did, he had the audacity to
00:06:04compare himself to the number one in the
00:06:08world, to Lionel Messi, for me, for me
00:06:11it's a...
00:06:42my law that compared himself to Lionel Messi, my God this is going to
00:06:46be for everything and more, let's see when you come from
00:06:49sports, we are not so good when we win nor so bad when
00:06:53we lose, because in reality, let's say the day you won and you believed it, the next day they
00:06:57filled your basket, so you know
00:07:01I had to train for to get used to
00:07:04finding it inside, you know how ugly it is and yet you put up with it and
00:07:08you keep going, so life is not to have
00:07:10failures, life is to keep going even though you have
00:07:14failures, so get up and keep going, well, so, it goes wrong and
00:07:18well, you'll try another way, and if there's no other way, let's say
00:07:21you'll include the restriction and you'll take a path that has
00:08:03compare himself, guys, to
00:08:07whoever they want, but comparisons also have that hateful
00:08:11thing, look. I think that always I talk about respect and
00:08:15I want to say something with respect, for me Messi and Mil have
00:08:18nothing to do with all the things you have to go through to
00:08:22get there, he compares himself in that but he
00:08:25didn't go through
00:08:28a quarter of everything he went through in so many years because he doesn't have the
00:08:31time.
00:08:35the proportional
00:08:39that Messi's career, his health situation when he was...
00:08:42everything was against Messi to become the number one figure,
00:08:46he is basing the
00:08:49proportionality
00:08:53and why not, because it's not
00:08:56what he said, the comparison in terms of his
00:08:59talking about the proportion, let's see,
00:09:03if he from the age of 5 that he plays soccer until he's 39 today,
00:09:07how many goals he scores, he ends up
00:09:09making this video because Messi doesn't open doors
00:09:13for him because he doesn't want to get involved with politics, he never wanted to get
00:09:16involved, he wants me to open the door because the truth is if you make a
00:09:20video, let's see, you are an excellent lawyer, I don't see you Pablo
00:09:23making a video comparing yourself with Burlando, Burlando, Burlando and you are
00:09:27Pablo G. Olivera, I don't think my
00:09:30law has compared
00:09:32with Messi at all, I think he gave a
00:09:36message that was a nice message, what message? He compared himself all
00:09:39the time.
00:09:44he compared is the attitude that happens to all of us and in
00:09:47any field, what Messi has is from
00:09:50frustration, not believing it, nor believing
00:09:54success,
00:09:57that people interpret other things,
00:10:01I listen with respect, I listen with respect, don't limit yourself to just
00:10:05that, I think that my law, he didn't want to be
00:10:08oblivious to everything that happened nationally, it was practically like
00:10:11a very important night for all Argentines and he, well,
00:10:15accompanying the current events, wanted
00:10:18to compare himself at that important
00:10:20point that both
00:10:24the Nation. The Argentine Republic, another world champion,
00:10:27so the importance of this, of
00:10:29being resilient, in that aspect he compared himself, we don't
00:10:33really know about Miley's life, no, no, no
00:10:37we haven't had the opportunity, we haven't had the opportunity to
00:10:40delve into it, exactly, well, perhaps
00:10:43he's very hermetic too, he had
00:10:46a very particular bond with his parents, yes, well, until before being
00:10:50president he didn't speak to them, he was so hermetic with the loves he
00:10:53had. It's
00:16:43to get into it now, you know that politics, the
00:16:46spectacle and the show, people like them a lot, but there are also many
00:16:50police cases that are related to the world of
00:16:53show business, right? Of the spectacle, the police cases
00:16:57of the world of entertainment, let's go with that plate,
00:17:01Dana please, let's put it in full, because there are many characters who
00:17:04these days are having issues with the...
00:17:08We're just going to do a review of them and we're going to
00:17:10try to get into a couple of them there, the doctors, both Pablo Gómez de Olivera
00:17:14and Dr. Mónica Salvador have
00:17:17a lot of information on all this at hand, let's clear the screen a bit
00:17:21Ricardo and let's look there we have Callejero who
00:17:24just recovered conditional
00:17:26freedom, he met his son Callejero
00:17:30Fino, these are police cases, let me
00:17:33clean the screen for you if you can remove the graphics please, yes, then
00:17:36we have eh, Piti Álvarez, who is also in a complicated
00:17:40situation, no, we can't talk about the health
00:17:44of Piti Álvarez, eh, so the justice system stated at
00:17:48the request of the lawyers and those who care for him, eh, there's
00:17:51also the issue of Joaquín Levinton and Paula, this girl
00:17:55who was harassing him, an important issue is also that of
00:17:58Facundo Moyano and the meeting with Candela with a restraining
00:18:02order, there's Maxione's, there's Otoki's,
00:18:05Rossi's, do you remember Rossi,
00:18:16somehow with sports as in Diego's case and with
00:18:20police cases, let's see if you tell
00:18:22me, uh, give me one to tell the public right now, I'd like
00:18:26to start with Maradona with the news of the Maradona case
00:18:30that we have, we have a report on Maradona guys because
00:18:33of course this that seems like old, the trial, uh, this.
00:18:37It's just starting, well, but the closing arguments were read on
00:18:40Thursday, you have to understand that part because everyone says the
00:18:43closing arguments were read, but what's really important about the
00:18:47closing arguments, it's an important part, but
00:18:50it's a preclusion, meaning there won't
00:18:53be any more evidence, there won't be any more witnesses,
00:18:57the debate has been closed, there's no
00:19:00more trial, now the evidence begins to be valued, but
00:19:04you can't present witnesses, that stage has already been closed. That's
00:19:09they want to demonstrate today cannot be
00:19:12demonstrated and the qualification of the prosecutors
00:19:16there, the prosecutor already asked for the penalties and sentences, he divided it into two
00:19:19categories for eventual malice where the
00:19:22doctor, the medical doctor, is,
00:19:25eventual malice where the doctor is, eventual malice is
00:19:28when he had intention, meaning he had
00:19:31intention, he could have avoided it and he didn't avoid it, there he put
00:19:35the surgeon. They are.
00:19:45Give me Maradona's photo if you can, the individual ones we have of each one
00:19:51is right because they qualify it as simple homicide with
00:19:55eventual malice, but to the rest, to the rest they attribute a
00:19:58negligent homicide which is totally, there is an
00:20:01acquittal,
00:20:04the information from the team is very well
00:20:07qualified, uh, I'd like to share the report we have on
00:20:11Maradona to contextualize a
00:20:14bit what happened in the last few hours with the sentences being requested.
00:20:18Do we have the ok on the report Dana, let's
00:20:21go, go, let's go, okay,
00:20:25okay, here it comes, here it comes, I mean all this
00:20:27that happened with the Maradona case, the daughters had to
00:20:31witness and they covered their faces, there we have Diego Armando Maradona
00:20:35but the daughters had to witness, cover their faces
00:20:38when they were showing what they were showing, something
00:20:41very painful for the whole family, the trial is this, the
00:20:44confrontation, the immediacy are principles
00:20:47that there are. that speaks of
00:20:51orality, this is an oral trial and unfortunately one has to speak, one has to
00:20:54express and one has to say things that can affect
00:20:58the family. Well, let's watch the report and now we'll debate it and the lawyers will add
00:21:02data and we'll all get into the topic of Maradona, the closing arguments were read, here's the
00:21:06report.
00:21:09And there's less and less time to know if there will be justice for the death of Diego
00:21:13Maradona, almost 6 months after the start of the trial, through which
00:21:1770 witnesses passed in 50 hearings.
00:21:50and they turn around, there were
00:21:53the room, despite the
00:21:55anguish,
00:21:58and the prosecutors treated the team that had the responsibility of
00:22:02caring for Diego as improvisers who forgot they were treating a vulnerable
00:22:05and complex patient. For the accused, they requested these
00:22:09sentences: for the neurosurgeon Leopoldo Luque,
00:22:1212 years in prison and 10 years of disqualification; for Dr.
00:22:16Nancy Forlini, medical service coordinator, 10 years of...
00:22:20prison and 10 years of disqualification; for the psychiatrist Agostina Kosachov,
00:22:238 years in prison and 10 years of disqualification. The three accused
00:22:27for the crime of simple homicide with eventual intent. For the psychologist
00:22:31Carlos Díaz, they requested 5 years in prison and 10 years
00:22:34of disqualification. In the case of the nurse Mariano
00:22:38Perroni, 4 years in prison and eight of
00:22:41disqualification. And for the nurse Ricardo Almirón, 4
00:22:45years in prison and eight of disqualification. The
00:22:48last three accused.
00:22:51for negligent homicide. Pay attention, the surprise of the day was received by the clinical
00:22:55doctor Pedro Dispaña, without charges
00:22:58because the prosecutors considered that he acted only as a
00:23:02consultation doctor.
00:23:05And in response to these arguments by the prosecution, what did the
00:23:09defense lawyers for Agustina Kosachov and Leopoldo Luque say? We
00:23:12hear them. In terms of criminal dogmatics, the accusation has serious
00:23:16deficiencies, in terms of evidence, decontextualized audio was reproduced.
00:23:20In medical terms, the statements of the witnesses who were here from
00:23:25valued, so now the "change" is missing, as it would be
00:23:28popularly said, that our argument. It really seems senseless to me that, for example, the
00:23:32prosecution at the beginning talks about them ignoring the seriousness of the situation and
00:23:36then comes to request a deliberate crime that precisely has to do with knowing
00:23:39something, but well we will
00:23:42the foreseeable that there would be a
00:23:46request, let's say, for a conviction for eventual malice, we have...
00:23:50the confidence that the
00:23:52sentence will not be in that sense, because the
00:23:55evidence proved that Kosachov's conduct was correct, the
00:23:59truth is that the prosecution's argument is correct, we disagree
00:24:02regarding the legal classification, she was only the
00:24:05psychiatrist, she medicated him from the psychiatric point of view
00:24:09and the forensic experts said that the medication was correct, meaning it had no incidence in the
00:24:13death.
00:24:16Maradona's daughters, we spoke with him. He
00:24:20thanks justice for finally getting to where it did,
00:24:24listen, we are at a stage
00:24:27that many thought we
00:24:31wouldn't reach, this trial was
00:24:34sabotaged, they even tried as a strategy to
00:24:38seek suspensions to
00:24:41do something that only harms, I want to make
00:24:45this very clear, the victims,
00:24:48it only harms... Dalma, Gianinna, all of Diego Armando
00:24:52Maradona's children, for the victims the pain has
00:24:55grown, especially in a wound that they cannot
00:24:58close, they cannot turn the page,
00:25:01precisely because justice did not give them an
00:25:04answer, I today want to thank
00:25:08the justice of the province of Buenos Aires, and if we really reached
00:25:12this instance, uh, the
00:25:15true protagonists of this are them, prosecutors
00:25:19uh and... times, no, no, no, the
00:25:21parties.
00:25:25Strong, strong, everything Maradona's family had to go through, with
00:25:28this we understand, doctors, that the case is concluded, as Pablo
00:25:32said, no, let's see, here the evidence
00:25:35stage, no more witnesses can be presented,
00:25:3945 hearings, 70 witnesses, all the
00:25:43documentary evidence that was reproduced right there in the trial, today
00:25:46that stage is concluded, now comes
00:25:50the closing arguments which is to analyze each of the elements and each one
00:25:53presents their position, the closing arguments are over, the
00:25:57sentence requested by the prosecutor is already there, the prosecutor so that
00:26:00Burlando understands.
00:26:02Because the private party also has to
00:26:05express itself regarding, well, but the prosecutor's request, the prosecutor is the one who
00:26:09represents the state, the state has already requested certain
00:26:12penalties, but we also have to take into account three issues
00:26:15that the prosecutor's office also decided that were not as publicized, that
00:26:19they did not request immediate detention, so if they get
00:26:23the maximum penalty because generally the prosecutor's office asks for the maximum penalty and the
00:26:27court of those 10 is very likely to give them much less
00:26:30then but in case. that they would be given the
00:26:33maximum penalty, they do not request immediate detention
00:26:37because they are always in the right,
00:26:40they are only prohibited from leaving the country
00:26:43abroad because their passports will be withheld, but they can
00:26:47present themselves in neighboring countries, meaning
00:26:50that although they will have the penalty, they will have
00:26:54disqualification, the penalty, of course, disqualification
00:26:57also gave them a certain character that they will not be behind the
00:27:01sensation that it is a... don't think that they will be behind bars because they won't
00:27:05be if they are in the right, doesn't it give you the feeling that it's a party
00:27:09or a free-for-all, Pablo, it's quite the opposite, let's see, the defense argument
00:27:12is to analyze each of the evidence and present it before a tribunal, there are three people
00:27:16who are watching you, which is the tribunal, they are three judges, sorry,
00:27:19sorry, clarify something, tribunal that this
00:27:23trial had to be suspended, maybe
00:27:26well, with another tribunal, but I feel the previous
00:27:29judge.
00:27:32I feel ashamed, ashamed of this justice
00:27:36of some within the justice system,
00:27:40but you say the tribunal, the tribunal, because let's see,
00:27:43if I, let's see, I haven't read everything, everything that is the
00:27:47argument, but if the prosecutor says well, I don't do it or
00:27:50doesn't express it, I make the reservation,
00:27:54before a non-favorable conviction, I go to cassation,
00:27:57it's not necessary to say it, why, because the same norm imposes it on you,
00:28:01so. it can go to
00:28:04same, the same norm imposes that the detainee can go because there is a
00:28:08conviction and in that expectation they can request it,
00:28:11so when the tribunal
00:28:14condemns, all these prisoners will have to be there, one
00:28:18question and and we have some commitments, guys, one question, to
00:28:21show Diego's deceased
00:28:24state, horrible, I asked, horrible, is it a media
00:28:27move or is it a legal move, no, it's a legal move,
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