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00:01:14>> WELCOME BACK TO WASHINGTON JOURNAL. WE'RE JOINED NOW BY
00:01:15ADAM BRANDON. HE IS CO-FOUNDER
00:01:19OF THE INDEPENDENT LEADERSHIP COUNCIL, ALSO CO-FOUNDER OF INDEPENDENT CENTER. ADAM,
00:01:22WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. >> THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
00:01:25>> SO WHAT IS THE INDEPENDENT LEADERSHIP COUNCIL AND WHERE DO
00:01:28YOU GET YOUR FUNDING? >> GREAT. SO I'LL START OFF BY JUST SAYING, I ORIGINALLY, I'M
00:01:32WITH THE ORGANIZATION, THE INDEPENDENT CENTER. AND IN APRIL
00:01:36OF THIS YEAR, I HAD A BREAKFAST WITH SENATOR JOE MANCHIN AND HIS
00:01:39DAUGHTER. AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT POLITICS, AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY COULD DO TO
00:01:43MAKE AN IMPACT. AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUR PLAN TO GET
00:01:46INDEPENDENCE ELECTED. AND IT KIND OF MATCHED UP WITH THEIR
00:01:49VISION. SO FOR THE NEXT 100 DAYS, OUR TWO ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
00:01:53KIND OF MERGED IN CREATING SOMETHING CALLED THE INDEPENDENT
00:01:55LEADERSHIP COUNCIL. AND OUR GOAL IS HOPEFULLY, BY THE END OF THIS
00:01:59YEAR OR BY THIS ELECTION CYCLE,
00:02:01100 DAYS TO GET 2 OR 3 INDEPENDENTS ELECTED AROUND THE
00:02:05CURRENT PARTIZAN SYSTEM. SO ACTUALLY GETTING INDEPENDENTS
00:02:08ELECTED WHO ARE NOT RUNNING AS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WHOSE
00:02:11GOALS ARE TO COME TO THIS TOWN AND NOT CAUCUS WITH EITHER PARTY
00:02:15AND BE TRULY INDEPENDENT. >> OKAY, SO YOU ARE GOING TO BE
00:02:18ACTUALLY FUNDING CANDIDATES. CORRECT. SO WHERE'S THIS MONEY
00:02:22COMING FROM? >> SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S COMING FROM ALL ACROSS THE BOARD. WE HAVE FORMER REPUBLICAN DONORS,
00:02:25FORMER DEMOCRAT DONORS. WE'RE
00:02:28TALKING WITH SOME DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS. WE'RE TALKING WITH
00:02:31DIFFERENT FOUNDATIONS ON BOTH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT. IT
00:02:34SPREADS THE ABSOLUTE GAMUT. >> SO BUT WHAT'S THE PITCH
00:02:37THERE, ADAM? BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WITH VOTERS,
00:02:40IT'S LIKE, THIS IS A LONG SHOT
00:02:43BECAUSE IT'S A VERY MUCH A TWO PARTY SYSTEM. SO ARE THEY GOING
00:02:46TO GET BANG FOR THEIR BUCK WHEN THEY'RE DONATING TO THESE.
00:02:49>> HEALTH CARE SYSTEM? THAT IS NO ONE CAN EXPLAIN IT. IT'S IN
00:02:52CRISIS. WE ARE HITTING $40
00:02:53TRILLION IN DEBT. THAT IS MY
00:02:56BIGGEST ISSUE. EVERYONE WE HAVE, WE ALL IDENTIFY ALL THE PROBLEMS
00:02:59WE HAVE WITH IMMIGRATION. YET THERE'S SOME PRETTY SIMPLE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING.
00:03:03YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ISSUES TOGETHER. THE MOST IMPORTANT
00:03:06ISSUES FACING AMERICA. YOU TALK TO ANY OF THESE CALLERS. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT GAS PRICES.
00:03:10THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT AFFORDING A HOME. WHAT IS EDUCATION IN THE
00:03:13AGE OF AI? AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE SERIOUS ISSUES. SO
00:03:17WHAT WE'RE HOPE IS YOU BRING IN PEOPLE WHO CAN WORK WITH REPUBLICANS, WORK WITH
00:03:21DEMOCRATS, TRY AND FIND WHERE WE AGREE, MOVE LEGISLATION FORWARD,
00:03:24AND START SOLVING SOME PROBLEMS. THAT IS WHAT IS IN THESE DONORS INTERESTS.
00:03:27>> OKAY. BUT LET'S TALK A LITTLE
00:03:29BIT MORE ABOUT HOW YOU, UM, HOW
00:03:33YOU DEFINE AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY A LOT OF CANDIDATES
00:03:36WILL SAY, NO, NO, NO, I'M INDEPENDENT. I'M GOING TO MAKE
00:03:40MY OWN DECISIONS. BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY VOTE WITH THE
00:03:42SAME PARTY. >> THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I'M
00:03:46INDEPENDENT, YET I VOTE 80, 98% OF THE TIME WITH MY PARTY. WE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING A
00:03:49COMMITMENT, AND THE CANDIDATES WE WILL BE BEHIND WILL BE SUPPORTING A PLEDGE THAT, AGAIN,
00:03:53WHEN THEY COME TO WASHINGTON,
00:03:56THEY WILL NOT CAUCUS WITH EITHER PARTY. THAT IS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE HERE.
00:04:00>> ARE THERE CERTAIN POLICIES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR? IN
00:04:04OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CANDIDATES WHO WILL
00:04:08SAY THAT THEY ARE PRO-LIFE OR
00:04:11PRO SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL OR ANY OF THESE HOT BUTTON ISSUES?
00:04:15>> WHEN WE STUDIED INDEPENDENCE AND WHO THEY ARE, INDEPENDENCE.
00:04:19AND IT'S ABOUT, GALLUP SAYS IT'S 45% OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. SOME POLLS ARE PUTTING IT
00:04:22OVER 50. WHAT IS DRIVING THIS
00:04:24CHANGE IS A GENERATIONAL SHIFT. UP UNTIL THIS POINT IN THE LAST
00:04:2820 YEARS, BABY BOOMERS HAVE BEEN THE DRIVING DEMOGRAPHIC IN THE
00:04:32COUNTRY. WE ARE NOW ENTERING A PERIOD WHERE MILLENNIALS, THOSE
00:04:35IN THEIR 30s AND 40s, ARE GOING
00:04:37TO BE THE LARGEST VOTING BLOC IN THE COUNTRY. AND SO THEY HAVE
00:04:41SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VALUES AND PERSPECTIVES. SO IT HOLDS A LOT OF THESE INDEPENDENTS TOGETHER,
00:04:44PARTICULARLY THESE MILLENNIAL INDEPENDENTS, IS ON SOCIAL
00:04:48ISSUES. THEY TEND TO BE VERY LIVE AND LET LIVE THE SOCIAL
00:04:51ISSUES. THEY JUST WANT TO CALM DOWN. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GAY, MARRIAGE IS SETTLED. AND ON
00:04:55ECONOMIC ISSUES, THEY WANT CHOICE. AND THIS IS THE
00:04:57GENERATION THAT ALSO REALIZES
00:04:59ALL OF THIS DEBT IS GOING TO BE FALLING ON THEM. SO THEY
00:05:02ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE SOME PROGRESS ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT,
00:05:06THEY KIND OF BORROW FROM THE LEFT, THEY BORROW FROM THE RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE
00:05:09LOOKING FOR, IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR POLITICIANS THAT ARE WILLING TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH BOTH
00:05:13SIDES, TO COME UP WITH THE SOLUTIONS.
00:05:16>> IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES,
00:05:19INDEPENDENT VOTERS, AND CAMPAIGN
00:05:212026 AND 2028, FOR THAT MATTER,
00:05:24YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CALL NOW.
00:05:26ADAM BRANDON IS OUR GUEST.
00:05:29REPUBLICANS ARE ON 202748 8001.
00:05:32DEMOCRATS. 202748 8000. AND
00:05:34INDEPENDENTS. 202748 8002 ADAM,
00:05:38I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT
00:05:41UNIVERSITY OF BUFFALO'S JACOB KNASEL SAID AND HAVE YOU REACT
00:05:44TO IT. SO HE SAID THIS. THE
00:05:46SUPPORT FOR THESE INDEPENDENT
00:05:49CANDIDATES TENDS TO EVAPORATE WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THE VOTING BOOTH AND THEY'RE THINKING
00:05:52THROUGH THINGS. IT'S JUST BECAUSE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES
00:05:55HAVE A VANISHINGLY SMALL CHANCE
00:05:57OF WINNING. PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT THEM IN THE ABSTRACT. BUT ON THE
00:06:01DAY OF THE ELECTION, THEY'RE TYPICALLY MORE WILLING TO PULL
00:06:04THE LEVER FOR THE LEAST BAD IN
00:06:08THEIR EYES. MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATE. >> BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM. DEMOCRACY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
00:06:11ABOUT VOTING FOR THE LEAST WORST OPTION. WHY CAN'T WE ACTUALLY
00:06:15VOTE FOR CANDIDATES THAT WE ACTUALLY LIKE, THAT WE ACTUALLY
00:06:18FIND THAT THIS PERSON REPRESENTS MY COMMUNITY. AND WHEN I LOOK AT
00:06:21SO MANY OF THE PROBLEMS HERE IN WASHINGTON, THE PROBLEM IS NOT
00:06:25WE KEEP SENDING GOOD PEOPLE TO THIS TOWN, BUT THE SYSTEM, THE
00:06:29WAY WASHINGTON WORKS WITH THE PARTIES AND THE COMMITTEES, IT
00:06:32JUST GRINDS THEM UP. AND SO I, SO THE, THE, THE ACADEMIC HERE.
00:06:36YEAH. THAT'S THE WAY THE RULES WERE. BUT THINGS ARE CHANGING.
00:06:39THINGS ARE CHANGING VERY RAPIDLY. >> ARE THINGS CHANGING, THOUGH,
00:06:42BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL CHANCE OF WINNING?
00:06:45>> WELL, UNTIL WE DO, UNTIL WE WIN. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOSH, HERE'S THE
00:06:49FUTURE. BUT LOOK, THE SAME THING WAS SAID IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY
00:06:51AND THE TAXI INDUSTRY. WE ARE ENTERING AN ERA WHERE MASS
00:06:55DISRUPTION IS HAPPENING IN EVERY PART OF OUR LIFE. IT JUST
00:06:59HASN'T HAPPENED IN POLITICS YET. BUT I BELIEVE IT WILL START TO
00:07:01HAPPEN IN THIS YEAR, IN 2026.
00:07:03AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO GET 2 OR 3 INDEPENDENTS ELECTED ACROSS THE
00:07:07LINE, AND THAT JUST BLOWS THE DOORS OPEN IN 28. WHEN PEOPLE
00:07:10REALIZE YOU CAN GO AROUND THIS
00:07:14PARTY DUOPOLY OF DYSFUNCTION AND ACTUALLY GET REALLY GOOD AMERICANS ELECTED. >> SO CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT SOME
00:07:17OF THOSE CANDIDATES THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING? >> WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND IF YOU
00:07:20LOOK AT THE SENATE, YOU LOOK AT SETH BODNER IN MONTANA, YOU LOOK
00:07:23AT GO UP TO ALASKA, BILL HILL,
00:07:26KEVIN KILEY, WHO USED TO BE A REPUBLICAN WHO BECAME AN INDEPENDENT IN CALIFORNIA,
00:07:30MICHAEL BRIDGFORD, WHO'S GOING TO BE RUNNING ONE OF THE MORE
00:07:33SHOCKING RACES IN IOWA'S FIRST DISTRICT. I MEAN, THERE'S A HANDFUL RIGHT THERE. AND
00:07:37THERE'S ABOUT TEN OTHER RACES THAT WE'RE WATCHING. RICK BENNET UP IN MAINE, WHO'S
00:07:40RUNNING AS AN INDEPENDENT JUST ACROSS THE COUNTRY. YOU'RE
00:07:44GOING TO HAVE MORE INDEPENDENTS ON THE BALLOT. BUT AGAIN, FOR OUR STRATEGY TO WORK, ONLY 2 OR
00:07:473 NEED TO PUNCH THEIR WAY THROUGH.
00:07:51>> SO THIS IS WHAT GALLUP SAYS. THIS IS FROM JANUARY OF THIS
00:07:55YEAR. IT SAYS NEW HIGH OF 45% IN
00:07:57THE U.S. IDENTIFY AS POLITICAL
00:08:00INDEPENDENTS. MY QUESTION IS, ARE THEY ACTUALLY INDEPENDENT?
00:08:04YES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT LINE, AND SOMETIMES
00:08:07PEOPLE CALL ON THAT LINE, AND
00:08:10THEY'RE VERY MUCH ONE PARTY. >> VERY I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE
00:08:13SOMETIMES WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT INDEPENDENTS, THESE ARE. I WISH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD BE
00:08:16MORE TO THE LEFT. I WISH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD BE MORE TO THE RIGHT. AND INDEPENDENTS.
00:08:20REMEMBER, WHEN WE'VE DONE OUR RESEARCH, THERE'S A CERTAIN
00:08:24VALUE SET THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TEND TO BE, AGAIN, MORE SOCIALLY
00:08:27TOLERANT ON THE LEFT, MORE ECONOMICALLY RESPONSIBLE ON THE RIGHT. THAT'S THE LINE THAT
00:08:30KIND OF HOLDS THEM TOGETHER. BUT WHEN YOU BREAK DOWN THE MAP,
00:08:33THERE'S 435 CONGRESSIONAL
00:08:35DISTRICTS, REALLY ONLY 20, ONLY
00:08:3820 CAN ACTUALLY FLIP ONE WAY OR
00:08:41THE OTHER. AND WHY IS THAT? AH, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. THOSE DISTRICTS ARE PLURALITY TO
00:08:45MAJORITY INDEPENDENT. YOU LOOK AT A PLACE LIKE MONTANA, YOU THE
00:08:49DATA SHOWS IT'S NOT NEARLY AS REPUBLICAN AS PEOPLE THINK IT
00:08:52IS. IT'S ACTUALLY MORE INDEPENDENT. AND SO ONLY IN A
00:08:55HANDFUL OF DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTRY DO INDEPENDENTS HAVE A
00:08:59CHANCE TO WIN. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RUNNING. IN. BUT THERE'S
00:09:02ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD BECOME A CRITICAL MASS THAT HERE IN
00:09:04WASHINGTON, THEY COULD CHANGE THE VERY WAY THE BODY WORKS,
00:09:07ESPECIALLY IF THINGS BEING SO NARROWLY DIVIDED. IF YOU HAD 2
00:09:10OR 3 INDEPENDENTS IN CONGRESS
00:09:12RIGHT NOW, THEY WOULD CONTROL
00:09:15CONGRESS. ONLY 2 OR 3, BECAUSE OF THE NARROW MAJORITIES.
00:09:18>> LET'S TALK TO SOME CALLERS. STEVE IS ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE
00:09:21IN NEW JERSEY. HI, STEVE. YOU'RE ON WITH ADAM. BRANDON.
00:09:25>> HI INDEPENDENT ALL MY LIFE.
00:09:28MATTER OF FACT, I GREW UP IN THE
00:09:3260s, AND THE IDEA OF JOINING A PARTY WAS SO FROWNED UPON BACK
00:09:35THEN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF BEING INDEPENDENT WAS
00:09:38SORT OF. YOU DID. BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I MEAN, I'M
00:09:42LISTENING TO YOU, AND I LIKE
00:09:45YOUR ENTHUSIASM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M LOSING HOPE. I PICK UP, YOU
00:09:48KNOW, I TURN ON THE TV THIS
00:09:51MORNING AND I, I SEE, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE JEWS ARE MORE
00:09:55UNWELCOME IN AMERICA WITH THIS
00:09:57EL-SAYED THING. AND I JUST AM.
00:10:01UM, SO FRUSTRATED. I MEAN, TO A
00:10:04POINT WHERE I'M REALLY THINKING OF MOVING OUT OF THIS COUNTRY TO
00:10:08ISRAEL, NOT SO MUCH, BECAUSE OF
00:10:10ISRAEL, BUT BECAUSE OF THE
00:10:12INTOLERANCE OF CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHICH IS GROWING AND
00:10:16GROWING AND GROWING. UM,
00:10:20TOWARDS, TOWARDS ME, AND I
00:10:23THINK, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE
00:10:28PROBLEM WITH, WITH THE USE OF WORDS WHEN YOU CALL SOMEONE
00:10:32YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY GIVING THEM A POSITIVE SPIN ON WHAT THEY'RE
00:10:34SAYING. AND FOR SOME REASON, JEW
00:10:37HATRED IS, IS PROGRESSIVE. AND I
00:10:40THINK THAT IS THE PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, AND PEOPLE DON'T
00:10:44READ. YOU KNOW, I HEARD A CALLER
00:10:46JUST RECENTLY SAY THE DEMOCRATS
00:10:49AND THE CIVIL WAR, AND HE OBVIOUSLY WAS WRONG, JUST ON
00:10:52FACT SO, I MEAN, SO MUCH OF THE
00:10:55PROBLEM IS SORT OF THE MEDIA SPIN ON EVERYTHING. IF I SAY
00:10:58SOMETHING, IF I'M PRO-ISRAEL,
00:11:01I'M I'M A PRO-TRUMP, OR I'M A PRO THIS OR PRO THAT, IT'S,
00:11:04IT'S THIS DESIRE BY THE MEDIA TO PUT US INTO BOXES. AND IT'S
00:11:08WORKING. UNFORTUNATELY. >> WELL, ALL. >> RIGHT, STEVE, TO THE CALLER, LOOK, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
00:11:12A LOT OF THESE TRENDS. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO. YOU SHOULD
00:11:15NOT HAVE TO HAVE, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO A MOSQUE OR A SYNAGOGUE, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE
00:11:19TO HAVE SECURITY. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SCHOOL. I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THIS IS PART OF
00:11:23OUR LIFE IN AMERICA TODAY IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I DECIDED TO
00:11:26LEAVE TEAM RED AND COME OVER
00:11:28HERE INTO THE INDEPENDENT SPACE,
00:11:31WHERE YOU JUST THINGS LIKE ANTI-SEMITISM JUST DOES NOT WORK
00:11:34IN THE INDEPENDENT SPACE. THE INDEPENDENT SPACE IS A PLACE
00:11:37THAT'S A BIG TENT, WHERE THESE AMERICAN VALUES OF WHERE WE ALL
00:11:40KIND OF AGREE UPON. THAT'S WHERE I SEE THIS COMING TO. THIS IS
00:11:44WHY I AM SO PASSIONATE THAT WE NEED TO STEP BACK FROM THE, FROM
00:11:47THE HARD RIGHT AND THE HARD LEFT
00:11:48IN AMERICAN POLITICS. BUT AGAIN, MY POINT IS THAT THIS IS BEING
00:11:52DRIVEN. THE CHANGE IN THE RISE OF INDEPENDENTS IS A
00:11:55GENERATIONAL CHANGE. SO, SIR, DON'T MOVE JUST YET, BECAUSE
00:11:59THIS NEXT GENERATION THAT IS UPCOMING, THESE MILLENNIALS AND THESE WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE
00:12:02PLURALITY ELECTORATE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THEY'RE PROBABLY
00:12:05THE MOST SOCIALLY TOLERANT GROUP IN AMERICAN HISTORY RIGHT NOW.
00:12:08AND WHAT THEY ARE EXPECTING IS A DIFFERENT CHANGE IN AMERICAN POLITICS, WHERE BOTH SIDES, YES,
00:12:12YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OPINIONS. YES, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR VALUES. BUT
00:12:16YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE A COMMON CRISES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE
00:12:19CAN AGREE UPON AND LEGISLATE FROM THERE. AND THAT IS WHAT THE
00:12:22INDEPENDENT REVOLUTION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
00:12:25>> ANGELA, IN CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING.
00:12:29>> GOOD MORNING TO YOU AND YOUR GUESTS, AND GOOD MORNING
00:12:32AMERICA. I WAS BORN IN 1960 IN
00:12:35LOUISIANA, 1947. MY GRANDFATHER
00:12:38MOVED TO HIS FAMILY AFTER
00:12:40PLANTATION. HE SAID HE WANTED DOCTOR LAWYERS. I CAME TO
00:12:44CALIFORNIA IN 67 MOTHER WAS NOT
00:12:47ON WELFARE IN LOUISIANA, BUT
00:12:49WHEN SHE GOT TO CALIFORNIA, THEY
00:12:51PUT HER ON WELFARE. I REGISTERED
00:12:54AS AN INDEPENDENT AT 18 YEARS
00:12:55OLD. IN HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE I
00:12:58DO AGREE WITH WHAT SOME OF THE
00:13:02REPUBLICAN PARTY WANTS. LET'S GET UP AND GO TO WORK, PUT MONEY
00:13:05INTO THE SYSTEM, EARN YOUR WAY IN AMERICA, GET A GOOD
00:13:09EDUCATION, GO OUT AND GET A
00:13:10CAREER. I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHERE
00:13:15WAS COMING FROM. YEAH, THEY DID HAVE RACISM AGAINST THE BLACK.
00:13:18WE DID HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS. BUT
00:13:21HERE'S MY QUESTION TO YOU. I'M
00:13:2366 YEARS OLD NOW THAT THE NEW
00:13:31INDEPENDENT PARTY IS A SOCIALIST
00:13:33GROUP, WHAT ARE YOU MEANING BY THAT? BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE
00:13:37SHOULD BE WORKING, PAYING INTO
00:13:40THE SYSTEM. ENTREPRENEURS. SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? I
00:13:43DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS NEW SOCIALISM THING THAT'S COMING ON.
00:13:47>> OKAY. ANGELA. >> RIGHT. >> SO WAIT, JUST THERE'S A LOT THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO
00:13:51SAY THEY'RE NUMBER ONE. I THINK IT'S TIME TO START TAKING A
00:13:54LOOK AT OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET, BECAUSE I, OF COURSE, DON'T
00:13:57LIKE A SYSTEM THAT'S SET THAT INSTITUTIONALIZES
00:14:01INTERGENERATIONAL POVERTY. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TO
00:14:04FIGURE OUT IF YOU NEED HELP. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT HELP. BUT THEN WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING
00:14:08YOU BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE. AND AGAIN, I THINK A LOT OF THESE
00:14:11ISSUES ON HOW YOU COULD REFORM WELFARE ARE GETTING STUCK
00:14:14BETWEEN THE PARTIZAN FOOTBALL, BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HOPING
00:14:18INDEPENDENTS CAN COME WITH A NEW, CLEAR VIEW AND BE LIKE, LOOK, PART OF THESE SYSTEMS, YOU
00:14:21NEED TO KEEP THIS, YOU NEED TO
00:14:23FIX THIS. BUT WE NEED TO START CHANGING OUR SYSTEMS FROM WHAT OUR WELFARE IS NOT SOMETHING
00:14:27THAT TRAPS YOU, BUT ACTUALLY HELPS ADVANCE YOU INTO YOUR CAREER. SO TO GET YOU TO WHERE
00:14:30YOU ARE WORKING.
00:14:32>> DAVE IN MICHIGAN INDEPENDENT.
00:14:34HI, DAVE.
00:14:37>> OH, CONGRESS, UH, WHEN THEY
00:14:44MAKE DECISIONS ON POLICY AND LAWS AND RULES, REGULATIONS
00:14:48COMES DOWN TO ONE VOTE, A
00:14:53POPULAR VOTE. NOW, WHAT HAPPENS
00:15:01IF WE TAKE 15%? IF IT COMES DOWN
00:15:04TO 15% OF EITHER DEMOCRAT OR
00:15:07REPUBLICAN, UH, VOTING ON A
00:15:10CERTAIN POLICY OR WHATEVER, AND
00:15:16THEN THAT SWAYS THE VOTE, NOT OF
00:15:22EITHER SIDE. I'LL TAKE MY ANSWER OFF THE AIR. THAT'S THE WAY I THINK.
00:15:25>> OUR STRATEGY, SIR, IS THAT IF YOU GET JUST A COUPLE OF
00:15:28INDEPENDENTS ELECTED WHO ARE NOT IN EITHER PARTY, WHAT THEY COULD
00:15:30SERVE AS THAT FULCRUM THAT ACTUALLY STARTS BRINGING PEOPLE
00:15:33TOGETHER. AND I AM IN CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH SITTING
00:15:36MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, WHO HAVE SAID IF 2 OR
00:15:403 INDEPENDENTS ARE ELECTED, THEY WILL LEAVE THEIR PARTIES TO GO
00:15:43CAUCUS. WITH THIS INDEPENDENT BLOC. AND SO WHAT WE BELIEVE
00:15:47WOULD END UP HAPPENING IS THAT A LOT OF MEMBERS WHO ARE COMING
00:15:50HERE TO WASHINGTON, THEY'RE
00:15:54TRAPPED. THEY WHEN YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AT A BAR OUT AFTER WORK, THEY FEEL
00:15:57TERRIBLE THAT THEY DON'T THEY CAN'T OFFER AMENDMENTS. THEY
00:15:59CAME HERE TO DO THINGS, AND THEY'RE TRAPPED BY THE PARTIES.
00:16:03SO IF YOU JUST CRACK THAT FACADE JUST A LITTLE BIT, THAT OLD
00:16:06CHILDREN'S RHYME, THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. IF YOU SHOW, YOU
00:16:09CAN GET ELECTED AND ACTUALLY SURVIVE IN WASHINGTON, NOT BEING IN EITHER TWO PARTIES, I BELIEVE
00:16:13YOU'LL SEE A JAILBREAK OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM BOTH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT.
00:16:17REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT STARTING TO COME TOGETHER ON SOME OF THESE COMMON SENSE ISSUES THAT WE KNOW
00:16:21WE NEED TO START TO SOLVE, WHETHER IT'S OUR DEBT AND
00:16:25DEFICIT OR HEALTH CARE. THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO START SEEING MOVEMENT ON RIGHT NOW IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:16:28>> SO, ADAM, HOW DOES A THIRD PARTIES WORK IN THIS? LIKE,
00:16:32WOULD YOU SUPPORT SOMEBODY FROM THE GREEN PARTY, FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY? >> I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT
00:16:36PARTIES, BECAUSE WHEN I STUDY CHANGE IN AMERICAN HISTORY, IT
00:16:40DOESN'T COME FROM PARTIES. YOU
00:16:42HAD THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT,
00:16:45YOU'VE HAD THE SUFFRAGETTE
00:16:49MOVEMENT. MOVEMENTS CHANGE, AMERICAN POLITICS. SO WE ARE NOT
00:16:50TRYING TO BE A THIRD PARTY THIRD
00:16:55PARTIES. IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DEFEAT PARTIZANSHIP WITH ANOTHER PARTY? WHAT? WE'RE TRYING TO DEFEAT
00:16:58PARTIZANSHIP WITH IS A CITIZEN LED MOVEMENT. AND TO BE VERY. >> CLEAR, WOULD YOU SUPPORT A
00:17:01PARTY LIKE THE GREEN PARTY? >> NO, NOT. WE'RE GOING TO
00:17:04SUPPORT INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES, BECAUSE BE VERY CLEAR. ONCE YOU START GETTING INTO PARTIES,
00:17:08PEOPLE START BREAKING OFF INTO
00:17:13THEIR GROUPS. YOU CAN BE AN INDEPENDENT REPUBLICAN AND JOIN US. YOU COULD BE AN INDEPENDENT
00:17:15DEMOCRAT AND JOIN US. THERE IS NO NECESSARILY IT'S A BIG TENT
00:17:19BASED ON, AGAIN, BASED ON THESE COMMON SENSE OF VALUES, OF, YOU
00:17:23KNOW, SOCIALLY, LET'S BE LET'S BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER. AND ON
00:17:26ECONOMICS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, $40 TRILLION IN DEBT THAT'S GOING TO
00:17:29DESTROY THIS COUNTRY. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE THOSE ETHICS, THOSE
00:17:32VALUES THAT KIND OF BRING US TOGETHER, THIS COMMITMENT TO ACTUALLY WORK ACROSS THE AISLE.
00:17:36AND IF YOU DO THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE CITY. >> LET'S TALK TO ERIC NEXT.
00:17:40HE'S A DEMOCRAT IN WASHINGTON, D.C.. GO AHEAD. ERIC.
00:17:44>> YEAH. GOOD MORNING SIR. GOOD MORNING. UH, JUST TO JOE MANCHIN
00:17:47TURNED ME AWAY, PERIOD, BECAUSE I WATCHED HIM. I WATCHED WHAT
00:17:51HE'S DONE. YOU KNOW, AND AND
00:17:53JUST LIKE LIKE ME. SO I'M A
00:17:57PROGRESSIVE, WHICH IS. I'M NOT A SOCIALIST, AND I'M NOT. I'M
00:18:00NOT A PERSON THAT HATE OTHER
00:18:24WOULD NOT BE A REPUBLICAN ON. THE FACT IS, BECAUSE THEY
00:18:26ELECTED DONALD TRUMP. IT'S LIKE
00:18:29DONALD TRUMP IS A CROOK. HE, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY HE'S
00:18:33A RACIST. HE JUST, CAPITALIST, YOU KNOW, A MONEY GRABBER. YOU
00:18:37KNOW, I WOULD WAS JUST
00:18:43DISRESPECTFUL TO BARACK, PERIOD. I, YOU KNOW, JOE MANCHIN THE
00:18:47FUNNIEST PEOPLE EVER. >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET A RESPONSE. >> YEAH. I PERSONALLY HAD A VERY
00:18:50GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH JOE MANCHIN. I THINK IT IS VERY
00:18:54INTERESTING. IN MY NEW PROJECT, HOW WE HAVE FORMER REPUBLICANS, FORMER DEMOCRATS, ACTUALLY
00:18:58CURRENT REPUBLICANS, CURRENT
00:18:59DEMOCRATS, ALL WORKING TOGETHER
00:19:02ON THIS. AND WHEN YOU GET INTO A ROOM, SOMETIMES I WORRY TOO, OKAY, IS THIS GOING TO WORK? BUT
00:19:05IT IS WORKING BECAUSE WE ALL FIND THE VALUES THAT WE ARE
00:19:09AGREEING UPON, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE AGREE UPON. AND ACTUALLY, I THINK THE FACT THAT
00:19:12WITHIN OUR OWN EVEN ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE SO MANY
00:19:15DIFFERENCES IS A STRENGTH. THAT'S WHAT AMERICA IS. JUST COME TO YOUR THANKSGIVING DINNER. THERE'S GOING TO BE
00:19:20PLENTY OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT YOU'RE STILL THE SAME FAMILY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
00:19:24WE ARE. WE'RE TRYING TO LIVE THOSE VALUES INTERNALLY. AND THEN BY LIVING THOSE VALUES
00:19:26INTERNALLY, WE'RE HOPING TO SHOW THERE IS ANOTHER WAY BEYOND
00:19:29THIS PARTISAN MESS THAT WE HAVE. >> IN CLOSED PRIMARIES. YOU HAVE
00:19:33TO EITHER BE A REPUBLICAN, A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN, OR A
00:19:36REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. UH,
00:19:40INDEPENDENTS, REGISTERED INDEPENDENTS CANNOT VOTE IN THOSE PRIMARIES. TALK ABOUT THAT. >> OH, NOW, THIS IS A PASSION
00:19:43ISSUE FOR ME, TOO. WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU HAVE LESS THAN 10% OF
00:19:46AMERICANS, I BELIEVE ABOUT 7% OF
00:19:47AMERICANS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE
00:19:50PRIMARY PROCESS, CHOOSING ALL OF OUR CANDIDATES. AND THIS IS
00:19:53PUBLICLY FUNDED PRIMARIES THAT THAT THAT TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR.
00:19:57YET AS AN INDEPENDENT, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY STATES AND
00:20:01LOCALES, THEY CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. AND TO ME, IF THE PARTIES WANT TO CLOSE UP
00:20:05THEIR PRIMARIES, THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THEIR OWN PRIMARIES AND NOT HAVE THE TAXPAYER DO IT. BUT
00:20:08PART OF THIS EFFORT IS PRIMARY REFORM AND ELECTION REFORM.
00:20:12IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE FIGHTING BACK ON THIS GERRYMANDERING
00:20:15NONSENSE THAT I THINK IS GOING TO CONTINUE. EVERY ELECTION. WE'RE GOING TO START REDOING
00:20:18THESE DISTRICTS. UNLESS WE STOP THAT. BUT PRIMARY REFORM, WE'RE
00:20:22HOPING, BY GETTING INDEPENDENTS ELECTED, WE CAN SHOW AMERICANS
00:20:25THERE'S A HIGHER QUALITY. A CANDIDATE, AN EARLIER CALLER IN
00:20:28THE PREVIOUS SHOW WAS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING MORALS BACK INTO POLITICS. I THINK WE NEED TO
00:20:31RAISE OUR STANDARDS, AND I'M HOPING BY DOING THAT THROUGH INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES, WE CAN
00:20:35HELP DRIVE SOME OF THE CONVERSATION. ON GREATER REFORMS.
00:20:38>> NATHAN, ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. PATERSON, CALIFORNIA,
00:20:41YOU'RE ON THE AIR. GO AHEAD. >> YEAH. GOOD MORNING. I JUST
00:20:45WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE THING. YOU KNOW, THAT DONALD TRUMP KIND
00:20:47OF RAN AS AN INDEPENDENT INSIDE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. I MEAN,
00:20:50HE'S A REFORM CANDIDATE. UH,
00:20:53YOU KNOW, ROSS PEROT STYLE, A LITTLE BIT OF PAT BUCHANAN IN
00:20:57THERE. AND I THINK AN INDEPENDENT JUST DOESN'T HAVE A
00:21:00CHANCE ANYMORE. I KNOW ROSS PEROT MADE A GOOD RUN AT IT. I
00:21:04THINK CANDIDATES RUNNING INSIDE THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM KIND OF HAVE THE BEST PATHWAY FORWARD.
00:21:08AND I THINK TRUMP SHOWED YOU COULD DO IT. I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT
00:21:12TRADE, IMMIGRATION, ECONOMIC
00:21:13POPULISM. I MEAN, EVEN TODAY, HE
00:21:16CHANGED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. AND IT HAS MORE OF AN INDEPENDENT STREAK. AND I JUST I
00:21:20JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT,
00:21:22BUT I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT SYSTEM.
00:21:25>> WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> WELL, I THINK THE CALLER BROUGHT. >> UP SOME GREAT POINTS THERE. I
00:21:28MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM DONALD TRUMP,
00:21:31ESPECIALLY HIS USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND TALKING DIRECTLY TO
00:21:34THE VOTERS IS A VERY POWERFUL
00:21:35TOOL. UH, HOWEVER, IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER, WORKING IN ON
00:21:39TEAM RED, I TRIED TO DO A LOT OF REFORMS FROM WITHIN THE PARTY,
00:21:43AND THEY JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I WANTED TO LOOK. WE'RE AT $40 TRILLION IN DEBT. I
00:21:46WASN'T MAKING ANY PROGRESS THAT WAY. SO I'M TRYING TO CHANGE MY
00:21:50TACTICS TO SEE HOW YOU COULD ACTUALLY MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THOSE DEBT AND DEFICIT ISSUES.
00:21:53BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO RUN A CANDIDATES
00:21:56FOR PRESIDENT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. WE'RE TRYING TO PICK THESE
00:22:00BATTLES THAT ARE SMALL ENOUGH TO ACHIEVE, BUT ARE GOING TO BE
00:22:02LARGE ENOUGH TO MAKE A NATIONAL
00:22:06IMPACT. >> WEST INDEPENDENT LINE, COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA. GOOD MORNING.
00:22:10>> GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING. EVERYBODY IS FINE.
00:22:13WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS
00:22:16CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. UH,
00:22:18YEARS AGO, I VOTED FOR JOHN
00:22:23MCCAIN BECAUSE OF HE AND RUSS FEINGOLD HAD CHAMPIONED FINE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. THIS
00:22:27PROBABLY BACK IN THE 90s, BUT NONETHELESS, UH, UNTIL YOU AND
00:22:31YOUR MOVEMENT DO SOMETHING ABOUT
00:22:35CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM AND THE OPENNESS OF WHO IS FINANCING
00:22:38WHAT, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE
00:22:41GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL UNITED?
00:22:46THIS BIG CASE THAT WENT BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT? WE DON'T
00:22:50KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM. AND UNTIL PEOPLE KNOW
00:22:53WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS. SO I WISH YOU
00:22:57SUCCESS, BUT, UH, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF JOE MANCHIN, EITHER. IN
00:23:01HIS DAUGHTER, SHE'S MAKING $20 MILLION IN BIG PHARMA AND SO
00:23:05FORTH. THERE'S A BIG MONEY RIGHT
00:23:08THERE. SO HAVE IT AS YOU WILL
00:23:12THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM TO
00:23:14ME IS A HUGE, HUGE, UH, OBSTACLE
00:23:18TO OVER OVERCOME ALONG WITH
00:23:19AIPAC, BY THE WAY, A, ISRAELI,
00:23:23WHATEVER IT IS, POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, YOU GOT TO FIX THAT
00:23:27BECAUSE OVER AGAIN. >> WELL, TO THE CALLER'S POINT,
00:23:31IN EVERY RACE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ENGAGING, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET OUTSPENT IN EVERY RACE.
00:23:35THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. THE QUESTION IS, IS I BELIEVE
00:23:39THAT THAT THE WAY CAMPAIGNS ARE BEING RUN RIGHT NOW IS CHANGING
00:23:41IN MY OWN CAREER, UH, MULTIPLE
00:23:45TIMES, WE UPSET CHALLENGERS WITH A LOT OR INCUMBENTS WITH A LOT
00:23:48OF MONEY, WITH A VERY TARGETED CAMPAIGN. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S
00:23:51WHAT THE CHANGE IS, IS THAT MOST OF THE MONEY IN POLITICS TODAY
00:23:54IS GOING INTO TELEVISION ADS. MOST PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN WATCHING TV. IF YOU LOOK AT WHY
00:23:58THINGS ARE HAPPENING, WHETHER IT'S MONDAVI, WHO WAS OUTSPENT,
00:24:02WHETHER EVEN IN THIS MICHIGAN RACE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
00:24:05IN THE SENATE RACE, THE MOST
00:24:07LIKELY THE VICTOR IS GOING TO BE THE PERSON WHO WAS OUTSPENT.
00:24:10THERE'S A COMMON THREAD IS THAT MONEY IS LOSING ITS VALUE IN
00:24:13AMERICAN POLITICS. I MENTIONED THIS GENTLEMAN, MICHAEL BRIDGEFORD, WHO'S RUNNING IN
00:24:17IOWA'S FIRST DISTRICT. EACH OF HIS, THE REPUBLICAN AND THE DEMOCRAT, ARE PROBABLY GOING TO
00:24:20HAVE $25 MILLION APIECE. HE MAY
00:24:22HAVE $3 MILLION. I STILL THINK HE WINS BECAUSE HIS MESSAGE IS
00:24:26BETTER. AND THEN THE TACTICS OF BEING ABLE TO CONNECT DIRECTLY
00:24:29TO, ESPECIALLY THESE MILLENNIAL VOTERS, UH, YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON THAT. AND
00:24:33AUTHENTICITY IS THE NEW CURRENCY IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
00:24:37INDEPENDENTS HAVE AUTHENTICITY IN THE TWO PARTIES DON'T. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO
00:24:40HELP US. EVEN THE FINANCIAL SCALES. >> LET'S TALK TO PETE IN
00:24:44DALLAS, TEXAS, INDEPENDENT LINE. GOOD MORNING PETE.
00:24:47>> GOOD MORNING COMMENTS. ONE IS
00:24:53THAT THE INDEPENDENTS, I THINK, SHOULD COME OUT STRONGLY FOR
00:24:56TERM LIMITS. ABSOLUTELY,
00:24:58ABSOLUTELY. YES. FOR, UH, FOR
00:25:01CONGRESS THE TWO SENATE
00:25:07REPRESENTATIVE TERMS. AND SECONDLY, I THINK C-SPAN SHOULD TAKE TWO CALLS FROM
00:25:11INDEPENDENTS. AND THEN ONE CALL
00:25:13FROM, UH, REPUBLICANS AND ONE
00:25:15CALL FROM DEMOCRATS IN ORDER TO
00:25:18BE BALANCED IN THEIR TO THE, UH.
00:25:22>> SO, PETE, WHAT DO WE DO WHEN PEOPLE CALL ON THE INDEPENDENT
00:25:24LINE THERE? REALLY? I MEAN, MAYBE THEY THINK, BY THE WAY, I
00:25:27LOVE THIS. >> CALLER. >> BUT THEY'RE KIND OF NOT.
00:25:30WHAT DO YOU THINK, PETE?
00:25:32>> WELL, THEY'RE TWICE AS MANY INDEPENDENTS AS THERE ARE
00:25:36REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS FROM
00:25:41INDEPENDENTS FOR EVERY CALL FROM DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. ALL RIGHT.
00:25:44>> THANK YOU. >> LET'S I JUST GOT TO SAY, THIS IS THE. >> 250th ANNIVERSARY OF THE
00:25:47COUNTRY. AND IF YOU GO BACK 250 YEARS AGO, WASHINGTON'S FAREWELL
00:25:51ADDRESS, YOU GO BACK TO SOME OF THE OTHER FOUNDING FATHERS
00:25:55STATEMENTS. THEY WARNED ON
00:25:56PARTIZANSHIP. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WASHINGTON WARNED US THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HE WARNED
00:26:00US ON WHEN HE WAS LEAVING OFFICE
00:26:02WAS THAT PARTISANSHIP IS WHAT DESTROYS REPUBLICS LIKE OURS.
00:26:05AND SO TERM LIMITS ARE SO IMPORTANT. THE CITY, CINCINNATI,
00:26:09OHIO, IS NAMED AFTER A ROMAN GENERAL, CINCINNATUS, WHO LEFT
00:26:13HIS FARM, SERVED ROME IN A MOMENT OF CRISIS, WAS A DICTATOR. AND WHAT DID HE DO
00:26:17WITH ALL THAT POWER? HE WALKED BACK TO HIS FARM, AND THAT'S
00:26:20WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO, IS INSPIRE A NEW TYPE OF CITIZEN TO
00:26:24GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS. TODAY. THE PREVIOUS CALLER WAS ABOUT
00:26:27MONEY. WE BELIEVE THAT, YES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY FOR
00:26:30THESE CANDIDATES TO WIN, BUT IF THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE, THEY'RE GOING AROUND THE SYSTEM. I DON'T THINK IT'S
00:26:34GOING TO TAKE NEARLY AS MUCH MONEY AS MOST PEOPLE THINK IT'S
00:26:37GOING TO TAKE TO WIN. SO, AND THEN WE WANT THESE PEOPLE TO COME HERE, LEGISLATE. THIS IS
00:26:41ONE OF THE REASONS WE DON'T WANT THEM TO GET INTO COMMITTEES AND,
00:26:43AND INTO PARTIES AND THEN GO
00:26:46HOME, COME SPEND A COUPLE TERMS HERE, REPRESENT YOUR COMMUNITY, AND THEN GO HOME. AND THEN
00:26:50LET'S BRING IN SOME NEW BLOOD. SO I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THE NEED FOR TERM
00:26:53LIMITS
00:26:58>> YOU'RE WATCHING C-SPAN 2,
00:27:03DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED.
00:27:08>> AMERICA CELEBRATES >> [MUSIC] >> 250 YEARS, AND C-SPAN IS THERE TO MARK EVERY MOMENT FROM
00:27:11THE SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE TO THE VOICES >> [MUSIC]
00:27:15>> SHAPING OUR NATION'S FUTURE. FROM FAMOUS SPEECHES.
00:27:17>> GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME
00:27:22DEATH. >> TO BATTLE. REENACTMENTS AND
00:27:24VISITS TO KEY HISTORIC SITES
00:27:26ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE BRING YOU
00:27:29UNPRECEDENTED, ALL PLATFORM COVERAGE, EXPLORING THE STORIES,
00:27:33SIGHTS, AND SPIRIT THAT MAKE UP
00:27:35AMERICA. JOIN US FOR REMARKABLE COAST TO COAST COVERAGE
00:27:39FEATURING KEY EVENTS FROM OUR PAST THAT MAKE POSSIBLE THE
00:27:43UNLIMITED OPPORTUNITIES OF OUR FUTURE, CELEBRATING OUR
00:27:46NATION'S JOURNEY LIKE NO OTHER
00:27:47NETWORK CAN. AMERICA 250 OVER A
00:27:52YEAR OF HISTORIC MOMENTS,
00:27:54C-SPAN, OFFICIAL MEDIA PARTNER OF AMERICA.