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00:00:51>> MURDAUGH. CAMPAIGN 2026
00:00:55COVERAGE NOW FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT'S WHERE
00:00:57REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES VYING FOR THE PARTY'S NOMINATION FOR U.S.
00:01:01SENATE TOOK PART IN A DEBATE AHEAD OF TUESDAY'S SPECIAL PRIMARY ELECTION. THE
00:01:05CANDIDATES, INCLUDING THE LATE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM'S SISTER,
00:01:08DARLENE, DISCUSSED THE ECONOMY,
00:01:10HEALTH CARE, THE WAR WITH IRAN,
00:01:13AND SENATOR GRAHAM'S LEGACY. THE NONPARTISAN COOK POLITICAL
00:01:16REPORT RATES THE GENERAL
00:01:18ELECTION SOLID REPUBLICAN.
00:01:25>> FROM THE WIS TEN STUDIOS IN DOWNTOWN COLUMBIA. THIS IS THE
00:01:292026 SOUTH CAROLINA GOP U.S.
00:01:30SENATE DEBATE.
00:01:33>> A HIGH STAKES SPECIAL PRIMARY
00:01:35ELECTION UNFOLDING HERE IN THE PALMETTO STATE. AS SOUTH
00:01:39CAROLINA NOMINATES ITS NEXT GOP CANDIDATE FOR THE U.S. SENATE.
00:01:43TONIGHT, FIVE CANDIDATES ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM ACROSS
00:01:46THE STATE ABOUT ISSUES IMPACTING YOU, THE VOTER, THE FIVE
00:01:50CANDIDATES SELECTED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR
00:01:53TONIGHT'S HISTORIC DEBATE.
00:01:56RUSSELL FRY, DARLINE GRAHAM, MARC LYNCH, RALPH NORMAN, AND
00:02:00MARK SANFORD. ALSO JOINING US TONIGHT. SIX PANELISTS, THREE
00:02:03SELECTED BY THE STATE REPUBLICAN
00:02:05PARTY. JOEY HUDSON WITH WORD
00:02:07RADIO. KELLY NASH WITH
00:02:09IHEARTRADIO. AND WENDY DAMRON
00:02:13WITH PALMETTO PROMISE INSTITUTE.
00:02:14ALSO JOINING US FROM OUR SOUTH CAROLINA MEDIA STATIONS. JUSTIN
00:02:18DOHERTY WITH FOX CAROLINA IN GREENVILLE. ANNA HARRIS WITH W
00:02:21C, SC IN CHARLESTON. AND ERIC
00:02:25WEISFELD WITH WNBF IN MYRTLE
00:02:29BEACH. EVENING, EVERYONE. I'M
00:02:30JUDY KATZ, AND WELCOME TO OUR
00:02:33STUDIOS IN COLUMBIA, OUR CAPITAL CITY IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THE FIVE
00:02:37CANDIDATES PARTICIPATING IN TONIGHT'S DEBATE WERE SELECTED BY THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY,
00:02:41BASED ON AN AGGREGATE OF EARLY POLLING DATA. CANDIDATES, THANK
00:02:45YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THE RULES FOR THE DEBATE. THIS
00:02:48EVENING, WE'LL COVER AS MUCH GROUND AS WE CAN. AS YOU KNOW,
00:02:52YOUR RESPONSES WILL BE TIMED. WE'LL START WITH OPENING
00:02:54STATEMENTS. AND ACCORDING TO THE ORDER THAT THE POLLING IS
00:02:57REVEALING IN THE LATEST NUMBERS. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST. THAT MEANS,
00:03:01MR. SANFORD, WE START WITH YOU. THE FLOOR IS YOURS FOR 45 SECONDS.
00:03:05>> UM, IT'S A TREAT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT, AND I
00:03:08APPRECIATE THE CHANCE FOR MANY OF YOU, I'VE REPRESENTED YOU IN
00:03:12CONGRESS STILL MORE. I'VE REPRESENTED YOU AS GOVERNOR. UM,
00:03:15I'VE STARTED A BUSINESS AND BUILT IT OVER THE LAST FIVE
00:03:18YEARS. I'M A DAD. UH, I GUESS I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M A GRANDDAD,
00:03:22BUT I THINK THAT ALL OF US WOULD
00:03:25AGREE ON A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES,
00:03:28WHETHER IT'S A SECURE BORDER OR THE IMPORTANCE OF A LITTLE BOY
00:03:32NOT COMPETING WITH A LITTLE GIRL ON THE SOCCER FIELD, OR
00:03:36WANDERING INTO THE RESTROOM. BUT THERE IS ONE DISTINGUISHING
00:03:38FACTOR THAT I BRING TO THE TABLE THAT I HOPE WE GET TO TALK ABOUT
00:03:42TONIGHT, AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NATIONAL DEBT
00:03:45AND ITS IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR
00:03:49LIVES, AFFORDABILITY, AND ULTIMATELY, THE AMERICAN DREAM. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LYNCH.
00:03:52>> YES, I'M MARK LYNCH, A LIFELONG SOUTH CAROLINIAN, BORN
00:03:55IN GREENVILLE, MARRIED 38 YEARS
00:03:59WITH TWO CHILDREN AND FOUR GRANDCHILDREN. AND I'M A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN IN
00:04:02GREENVILLE. WE'VE OPERATED A FAMILY BUSINESS. NOW IN OUR 74th
00:04:05YEAR, UNDER MY LEADERSHIP, WE'VE
00:04:08GROWN THE BUSINESS 35 TIMES IN THE LAST 40 YEARS, DEBT FREE. SO
00:04:11I UNDERSTAND BUDGETS. I UNDERSTAND TACKLING THE GIANTS
00:04:14THAT WE FACE EVERY DAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO WIN
00:04:17IN OUR BUSINESS EVERY DAY, WITH EVERY ISSUE, SERVING CUSTOMERS
00:04:21AND MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THEM BETTER THAN OUR COMPETITION, OR WE WOULD BE OUT
00:04:25OF BUSINESS. I KNOW WHAT BEING
00:04:29DEBT FREE MEANS, AND WE CAN'T PRINT MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR IN OUR BUSINESS, AND WE CAN'T DO
00:04:33THAT IN GOVERNMENT, AND IT'S TIME TO TACKLE THOSE ISSUES THAT
00:04:36ARE CAUSING OUR DEBT AT 39 TRILLION.
00:04:39>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. FREY.
00:04:42>> I WAS BORN IN SURFSIDE BEACH, IN A CINDER BLOCK HOUSE WITH NO
00:04:44HEAT OR AIR CONDITIONING. MY PARENTS WORKED HARD FOR EVERY
00:04:48SINGLE DOLLAR, UH, TEACHING US THE VALUES OF HARD WORK, FAITH,
00:04:51AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I
00:04:53KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN EVERY DOLLAR MATTERS, BECAUSE MY
00:04:56FAMILY LIVED IT TONIGHT. TOO MANY FAMILIES ACROSS SOUTH CAROLINA ARE WONDERING HOW
00:05:00THEY'RE GOING TO FILL UP THEIR GAS, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE GROCERIES FOR THEIR
00:05:04FAMILY, OR EVEN AFFORD A HOME. STEVE SPURRIER USED TO SAY, YOU
00:05:07ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS THAT YOU ARE. TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO
00:05:10LISTEN CLOSELY, UH, TO, TO THAT
00:05:13RECORD. I'M SOUTH CAROLINA, UH, CONGRESSMAN RUSSELL FRYE, AND I
00:05:17WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE IN THE AUGUST 11th PRIMARY.
00:05:20>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MRS.
00:05:21GRAHAM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
00:05:29YOUR PRAYERS. >> MY FAMILY AND I ARE TRULY APPRECIATIVE. WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLED, I ANSWERED, BECAUSE I'M A HARD WORKER, AND
00:05:33I'M PROUD TO HAVE HIS ENDORSEMENT. I'M NOT A POLITICIAN, BUT LIKE LINDSEY, I
00:05:37HAVE A SERVANT'S HEART. I GREW UP IN THE BACK OF A BAR AND
00:05:39LIQUOR STORE, WHERE I LEARNED A
00:05:42STRONG WORK ETHIC AND THE VALUE OF A DOLLAR FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS,
00:05:46I'VE WORKED HARD FOR THE PEOPLE
00:05:47OF SOUTH CAROLINA, HELPING THEM
00:05:51FIND JOBS AND LIVE INDEPENDENTLY. I MANAGED AN AGENCY WITH 130 EMPLOYEES AND A
00:05:55$90 MILLION BUDGET. I WANT TO CONTINUE WORKING HARD FOR THE
00:05:58PEOPLE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, AND I WANT TO EARN YOUR VOTE.
00:06:02>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, MR. NORMAN. >> I'M RALPH NORMAN. THANK YOU
00:06:06FOR ALL WHO ARE JOINING US BY THE TV. LOOK, I'M A 40 YEAR
00:06:10BUSINESS. BEEN IN THE BUSINESS
00:06:13FOR 40 YEARS. I HAVE GOT A RECORD THAT'S THE MOST
00:06:16CONSERVATIVE THAT I'M PROUD OF.
00:06:19MY RESUME IS MY RECORD. I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING IN THE UNITED
00:06:22STATES SENATE FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS, BECAUSE I WANT TO TAKE
00:06:25THAT TO WASHINGTON, D.C., AND I THINK IT'S NOW. NOW IS THE
00:06:28TIME, BECAUSE WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT IN THIS COUNTRY IN
00:06:31SO MANY WAYS. AND I'M JUST
00:06:33EXCITED ABOUT THE CHALLENGE. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECTS
00:06:37OF WHAT WE BRING. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW DAY. AND FOR A GREAT
00:06:41STATE LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA, WE CAN TAKE THAT ON TO TO THE REST
00:06:44OF THE COUNTRY. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. CANDIDATES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SETTING THE
00:06:47STAGE FOR VOTERS TONIGHT. WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL GET INTO
00:06:50QUESTIONS FROM OUR PANELISTS. WELCOME BACK TO TONIGHT'S GOP DEBATE CANDIDATES. WE WANT TO
00:06:54THANK YOU UP FRONT FOR GIVING VOTERS DIRECT ANSWERS TO THESE
00:06:58QUESTIONS TONIGHT SO THAT THEY CAN EVALUATE YOUR POLICIES AND
00:07:00PLATFORMS. OUR FIRST QUESTION COMES FROM JOEY HUDSON WITH WORD
00:07:04RADIO IN THE UPSTATE. TAKE A
00:07:05LISTEN
00:07:09>> PRESIDENT TRUMP REMAINS A DOMINANT FIGURE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. SHOULD A U.S.
00:07:11SENATORS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY BE TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S
00:07:15AGENDA, OR TO INDEPENDENTLY REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, EVEN
00:07:19WHEN THOSE INTERESTS MAY DIFFER
00:07:21WITH THE PRESIDENT'S.
00:07:24>> MR.. SANFORD, 45 SECONDS TO RESPOND.
00:07:26>> I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG DISTINGUISHING ELEMENTS
00:07:30IN THIS RACE. I HAVE AGREED WITH THE PRESIDENT OVERWHELMINGLY WHEN WE OVERLAPPED. WHEN I WAS
00:07:34IN CONGRESS, I VOTED WITH HIM 90% OF THE TIME. BUT WHERE I'VE
00:07:38DISAGREED, I HAVE DISAGREED. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE AMERICAN
00:07:41WAY, THAT IT'S OKAY OCCASIONALLY TO DISAGREE ON THINGS THAT ARE
00:07:45TIED TO SPENDING THINGS TIED TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK OF
00:07:49OUR GOVERNMENT, OR THINGS TIED TO LOCAL INTERESTS HERE AT HOME.
00:07:52THAT IS WHAT I DID DURING OUR OVERLAP. AND SO I THINK IT'S
00:07:56BOTH. YOU NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR THE GUY WHO'S RUNNING POINT, BUT
00:08:00YOU GOT TO WATCH OUT FOR FOLKS AT HOME. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THERE'S REAL DISTINCTION
00:08:04BETWEEN MYSELF AND SEVERAL FOLKS ON THIS, THIS DAIS, IN TERMS OF
00:08:06WHERE WE'VE STOOD ON THAT FRONT. FOR INSTANCE, ON THE
00:08:10AUTHORIZATION OF WAR. >> MR. FREY, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT QUESTION? >> I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS,
00:08:14YES. THE PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED TO BE OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
00:08:17OVER 80 MILLION PEOPLE SUPPORTED HIM IN THAT ENDEAVOR. HE IS THE COACH. AND I THINK IN CONGRESS,
00:08:21IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR OUR
00:08:23CONSERVATIVE VOTERS TO
00:08:25CONSTANTLY SEE PEOPLE GRANDSTAND AND JUMP UP AND DOWN AND OPPOSE
00:08:29HIM. THE PRESIDENT HAS HAS
00:08:32ALWAYS HAD AN OPEN DOOR POLICY. WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH HIM, HE
00:08:34HAS AN OPEN PHONE LINE. I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AS WE
00:08:37FACE MARXISM IN THIS COUNTRY,
00:08:40THE RADICAL LEFT, MOVING INTO CONGRESS AND WINNING SOME OF THESE NOMINATIONS. PEOPLE
00:08:44ELECTED US TO DO A JOB. THEY ELECTED US TO SECURE THE BORDER. THEY ELECTED US TO CUT YOUR
00:08:48TAXES, TO REIN IN THIS OUT-OF-CONTROL BUREAUCRACY, AND
00:08:51THEY EXPECT US TO GET THE JOB DONE, NOT GRANDSTAND AND NOT GET
00:08:54IN THE WAY. >> MR. NORMAN, SAME QUESTION.
00:08:57>> YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID WHEN HE TOOK
00:09:01OFFICE, UH, THE THOUGHTS OF A
00:09:02KAMALA HARRIS, UH, WERE COMPLETELY RADICAL. WHAT THE
00:09:06PRESIDENT'S DONE. I LIKE HIS AGENDA. YOU KNOW, THE AMERICA
00:09:09FIRST AGENDA IS SECURE THE
00:09:11BORDER, CUT THE TAXES. UH, MAKE
00:09:14SURE OUR MILITARY IS PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. UH, SO HE SET
00:09:18THE RIGHT COURSE, AND HE HAS A,
00:09:22A HE LIKES PEOPLE WHO CAN DISAGREE WITH HIM. AND THE FACT
00:09:25THAT HE HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB. AND I JUST THINK HE HAS.
00:09:28BUT YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH HIM.
00:09:31UH, HE LOVES COMPETING IDEAS. THAT'S HOW HE, THAT'S HOW HE
00:09:34MAKES THE FINAL DECISION. AND, UH, TYPICALLY IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION.
00:09:38>> MRS. GRAHAM, HOW WOULD YOU RECONCILE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT'S AGENDA AND
00:09:42WHAT'S BEST FOR SOUTH CAROLINA?
00:09:43>> TO ME, THIS ONE'S SIMPLE. I
00:09:46COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S AGENDA. I'M 100%
00:09:49BEHIND HIM. I AM HONORED TO HAVE
00:09:51HIS ENDORSEMENT. I'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON THE
00:09:54RUSSIA SANCTIONS DEAL. UH, I'VE ALREADY CO-SPONSORED THE SAVE
00:09:58AMERICA ACT. I'M ONE OF THE SENATORS THAT SIGNED ON TO STAY
00:10:02THROUGH RECESS TO GET THE SAVE
00:10:04AMERICA ACT PASSED, BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE DO.
00:10:07IF IT WERE UP TO THE DEMOCRATS, THEY WOULD JUST OPEN OUR BORDERS
00:10:11AND HAVE EVERYONE IN HERE
00:10:13INTERFERING WITH OUR ELECTIONS. AND PRESIDENT TRUMP STANDS
00:10:16AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS.
00:10:18>> AND MR. LYNCH. >> YES, I SUPPORT PRESIDENT
00:10:21TRUMP. I VOTED FOR HIM SIX TIMES. HE WON ALL THREE TIMES.
00:10:24WE KNOW HIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN
00:10:27IN 2020. I'LL ALWAYS SUPPORT AMERICA FIRST AND SOUTH
00:10:31CAROLINA. THAT'S WHO I WORKED FOR. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S GOOD.
00:10:34IRON SHARPENS IRON. IF WE HAVE A
00:10:37DISAGREEMENT, I'LL GO TO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND TELL HIM
00:10:39WHAT I THINK. AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL COME OUT WITH THE
00:10:43BEST DECISION WITH THAT. AFTER PRAYER AND DISCUSSION, UH, AT
00:10:47THE HIGHEST LEVEL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE ALWAYS
00:10:49COME TOGETHER AND FIND, WITH
00:10:52MANY COUNSELORS COME SUCCESS. SO WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT WE NEED TO.
00:10:54AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO BRING UP A QUESTION OR SOMETHING I DON'T
00:10:58THINK IS RIGHT WITH ANYBODY.
00:11:00THAT'S WHAT I DO IN LIFE. AND
00:11:04WITH THAT COMES THE BEST DECISIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT QUESTION THIS
00:11:07EVENING COMES FROM JUSTIN
00:11:08DOUGHERTY IN FOX, CAROLINA IN GREENVILLE.
00:11:12>> A RECENT PEW RESEARCH STUDY
00:11:15FOUND ONLY 24% OF AMERICANS
00:11:17CONSIDER THE CURRENT ECONOMY AS EXCELLENT OR GOOD. DESPITE
00:11:21PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PROMISE TO BRING DOWN PRICES, THE COST OF
00:11:24LIVING IS INCREASING, ESPECIALLY THE COST OF GROCERIES. WHAT CAN
00:11:28YOU DO AS SENATOR, TO FINALLY
00:11:29LOWER PRICES AND MAKE EVERYDAY
00:11:32ESSENTIALS MORE AFFORDABLE?
00:11:35>> MR. FRY, WE'LL START WITH YOU. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
00:11:38WE ALL GET BACK TO THE BASICS. I
00:11:40FOCUS ON A FAMILY FIRST AGENDA, AND PART OF THAT PART OF ONE OF
00:11:43THOSE, UH, TENANTS IS CERTAINLY, UH, SECURITY PEOPLE FEELING SAFE
00:11:46IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. BUT IT'S ALSO THE ECONOMY. AGAIN, HOW I GREW UP. I'M NOT WEALTHY. I'M
00:11:50NOT A WEALTHY MAN. UH, BUT I KNOW WHAT THE CHALLENGES AND HOW
00:11:54THAT FEELS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING HARD FOR EVERY DOLLAR JUST TO TRY TO STAY AFLOAT. I THINK
00:11:58IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE MORE ENERGY PRODUCTION IN THIS
00:12:02COUNTRY. ENERGY IS THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF A LOT OF THE ANGST
00:12:06THAT PEOPLE FEEL. I THINK THAT
00:12:09REALLY IS A KEY. I THINK WE NEED TO GET WASHINGTON BUREAUCRATS OUT OF THE WAY, SO THAT OUR
00:12:12FARMERS CAN DO THE JOB THAT THEY WERE, THAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND
00:12:16PROVIDE FOOD FOR OUR FAMILIES. THESE ARE ALL HALLMARKS OF A
00:12:19VERY SIMPLE. AND CHIEF AMONG THOSE IS KEEP YOUR TAXES LOW.
00:12:23>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. NORMAN. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO IMPROVE AFFORDABILITY?
00:12:26>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU GOT TO REALIZE PRESIDENT TRUMP
00:12:29INHERITED AN ECONOMY THAT WAS A
00:12:34DISASTER FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. UH, LOOK WHAT HE'S DONE IN THE SHORT TIME HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE. HE'S
00:12:38STOPPED THE FLOW OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY.
00:12:40THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL, WHICH
00:12:44GAVE THE TAXPAYERS MORE OF THEIR MONEY BACK. I HELPED MAKE IT
00:12:47EVEN STRONGER. UH, SO, YOU KNOW,
00:12:50WHEN THE WAR IS OVER, PRICES WILL COME DOWN. AND I THINK HE
00:12:54WILL MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE JUST WITH HIS POLICIES IN
00:12:57GENERAL. AND AGAIN, IT'S TAKEN
00:12:59A WHILE TO RECOVER FROM WHAT JOE BIDEN DID INTENTIONALLY.
00:13:03>> MRS. GRAHAM, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO IMPROVE AFFORDABILITY ON
00:13:07EVERYTHING FROM HOUSING TO DAYCARE? >> IF ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE STRUGGLES OF SOUTH CAROLINIANS,
00:13:11IT'S ME. WE HAVE OVER 5 MILLION
00:13:15PEOPLE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 50% OF THEM LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
00:13:1860% OF THEM DON'T HAVE A RAINY DAY FUND, WHICH MEANS THEY
00:13:22CAN'T MAKE IT THREE MONTHS. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
00:13:25PAY THE BILLS FOR THREE MONTHS.
00:13:27UNFORTUNATELY, I'M IN THAT 60
00:13:29PERCENTILE. I'VE BEEN IN THAT
00:13:3150 PERCENTILE FOR A LONG TIME. I TRUST PRESIDENT TRUMP. I KNOW
00:13:35HE'S WORKING ON THINGS. I THINK THE FARM BILL WILL BE VERY
00:13:38HELPFUL TO HELP THE FARMERS, TO DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF
00:13:41GROCERIES, BRINGING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
00:13:45DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT, AND
00:13:46I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT IN
00:13:49COMPETITION AND HEALTH CARE,
00:13:51TRANSPARENCY AND PRICING ON MEDICAL PROCEDURES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
00:13:54APPRECIATE IT. MR. LYNCH. WHAT SPECIFIC POLICY IDEAS DO YOU HAVE TO BRING?
00:13:58>> AFFORDABILITY DOWN AS A SUCCESSFUL, DEBT FREE
00:14:01BUSINESSMAN? AND HAVING TRAVELED THE STATE FOR OVER 15 MONTHS IN
00:14:04THIS CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RE BACK IN
00:14:06TO FINISH, WE'VE HEARD FROM SOUTH CAROLINIANS THAT ARE
00:14:10SUFFERING THEIR PAIN POINTS. HOW DO WE GET RID OF THE AFFORDABILITY PROBLEMS? NUMBER
00:14:14ONE, STOP SPENDING. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO IN MY BUSINESS. WE CAN'T PRINT MONEY OUT OF THIN
00:14:17AIR. WE'VE GOT TO ALSO BUST UP
00:14:21THESE MONOPOLIES THAT ARE PRICE FIXING THE HOMES. LIKE ONE OF OUR CLEMSON YOUNG REPUBLICANS
00:14:25BROUGHT UP, HE SAID. MR. LYNCH, I APPRECIATE YOUR STANCE ON
00:14:28IMMIGRATION AND CLOSING THE BORDER, BUT I'M AN ENGINEERING MAJOR, AND I'M GOING TO BE
00:14:32COMPETING AGAINST FOREIGN STUDENTS THAT THEIR COUNTRY PAID
00:14:36FOR THEIR TUITION TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY. THEY'LL TAKE MY
00:14:39JOB FOR HALF THE PAY, ROBBING ME
00:14:42OF MY FUTURE. AND I WAS BORN IN THIS COUNTRY. WE GOT TO END
00:14:45H-1B. >> VISA VERY MUCH. MR. SANFORD, YOUR IDEAS ON ADDRESSING
00:14:49AFFORDABILITY? >> I WOULD SAY MANY THINGS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RECORD, WHEN
00:14:52I WAS GOVERNOR, WE SAW THE FIRST
00:14:55CUT TO THE GROCERY TAX. WE SAW THE FIRST CUTS OF PROPERTY TAX.
00:14:58WE SAW THE LARGEST RECURRING TAX IN SOUTH CAROLINA HISTORY. I
00:15:01COULD GO DOWN A LONG LIST IN TERMS OF TRYING TO WATCH OUT FOR
00:15:05THE TAXPAYER. IT'S RELEVANT IN THIS INSTANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT
00:15:07THE TEN YEAR TREASURY RIGHT NOW, IT'S CROWDING UP RAISING
00:15:11MORTGAGE RATES, WHICH MAKES LIFE
00:15:13LESS AFFORDABLE FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. AND SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT,
00:15:17TOO. YOU CAN'T SAY, I COMPLETELY
00:15:19AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT ON ALL MATTERS, AND NOT SEE THE
00:15:23SPENDING PROBLEM THAT IS IN D.C.. UH, WE, YOU KNOW,
00:15:26REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN BAD ON IT, AND DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN BAD ON IT. DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN WORSE.
00:15:30ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM IN D.C. THAT IS
00:15:32BORNE OF BOTH PARTIES. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK I BRING SOMETHING UNIQUE.
00:15:36>> TO YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GET TO OUR NEXT QUESTION. THIS
00:15:39QUESTION COMES FROM KELLY. KELLY
00:15:40NASH WITH IHEARTRADIO RIGHT HERE
00:15:43IN COLUMBIA. >> YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL DEBT
00:15:46IS NOW RUNNING AT ABOUT $7.7
00:15:48BILLION PER DAY, WHICH FOR EVERY TAXPAYER IN AMERICA IS LIKE $50
00:15:52A DAY OF EXTRA DEBT THAT WE'RE TAKING ON. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO
00:15:56LEAD US BACK TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY? >> WELL, SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE
00:16:00ALREADY MENTIONED THE DEBT, SO MR. NORMAN WILL COME TO YOU.
00:16:02>> FIRST DEBT, THE INTEREST ON
00:16:06THE DEBT OF 43 TRILLION, OR PICK
00:16:07A FIGURE ABOVE THAT, UH, IS
00:16:11EXCEEDS OUR MILITARY SPENDING. WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT. I HATE,
00:16:15HATE IT. IF WE CONTINUE THE SPENDING SPREE THAT WE'RE ON, AND IT'S BY DEMOCRATS AND
00:16:19REPUBLICANS, BUT PARTICULARLY BY
00:16:20THE DEMOCRATS, WHO WANT TO END
00:16:23OUR WAY OF GOVERNMENT. UH, SO YOU TAKE DO MORE OF THE DOGE COMMISSION, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO
00:16:27ACT ON IT. THEY FOUND HUNDREDS
00:16:30OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND WHAT COULD CONGRESS DO? ONLY COME UP
00:16:34WITH $9 BILLION? SO WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE ANY NEW SPENDING WITH
00:16:37CUTS LIKE YOU DO IN THE BUSINESSES. AND LIKE EVERY
00:16:40FAMILY HAS TO DO IN THEIR BUSINESS.
00:16:42>> MRS. GRAHAM, YOUR IDEAS FOR LEADING US TO FISCAL
00:16:45RESPONSIBILITY.
00:16:47>> RIGHT NOW, OUR NATIONAL DEBT
00:16:50IS OVER $39 TRILLION. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP
00:16:54GROWING GOVERNMENT AND GROW THE
00:16:57ECONOMY. INSTEAD, WE NEED. TRUMP
00:17:00HAS ALREADY DONE A GREAT JOB. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE A GREAT
00:17:02JOB CUTTING FRAUD, STOPPING
00:17:05DUPLICATION IN GOVERNMENT. I'M BIG. I WAS BIG HERE IN SOUTH
00:17:08CAROLINA. ON NOT BEING A PROPONENT OF DUPLICATION OF
00:17:13GOVERNMENT IN SOUTH CAROLINA. TO ME, THAT'S WASTING TAXPAYERS
00:17:16DOLLARS. SO JUST CUTTING FRAUD,
00:17:22CUTTING SPENDING, GROWING THE ECONOMY, BRINGING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA. AND AGAIN, PRESIDENT
00:17:25TRUMP HAS DONE A GREAT JOB ON THAT.
00:17:28>> WELL, MR. LYNCH, PRESIDENT TRUMP DID PROMISE TO CUT THE NATIONAL DEBT. BUT AS EVERYONE
00:17:32HAS POINTED OUT, IT'S BEEN ESCALATING. SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM AND WHAT'S THE FIX? >> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
00:17:35PROBLEMS, LIKE MR. NORMAN VOTED
00:17:41ON A BILL THAT PUT $3.1 BILLION TO SUPPORT MIGRATION AND ILLEGAL
00:17:45IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY. THAT'S MONEY. WE DON'T
00:17:48HAVE THAT WE'RE PAYING TO HELP.
00:17:51THE PROBLEM ESCALATE. THESE THESE IMMIGRANTS, ILLEGAL ALIENS
00:17:54THAT ARE COMING IN HERE, 50
00:17:58MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE HERE, AND 70% OF THEM ARE ON
00:18:01WELFARE THAT WE'RE ALL PAYING
00:18:02FOR. WE'RE PAYING FOR THE DEMISE
00:18:06OF OUR DEBT TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW. AND NOBODY'S ATTACKING THE PROBLEM AT THE ROOT LEVEL
00:18:10THAT'S CAUSING IT. AMERICA FIRST IS SUPPORTING AMERICA, NOT
00:18:13ILLEGALS FUNDING TO BRING THEM INTO THIS COUNTRY.
00:18:17>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SANFORD. YOU MENTIONED THIS IN
00:18:20YOUR. MR. NORMAN, DID YOU WANT A 32nd REBUTTAL?
00:18:23>> YEAH I'VE BEEN VOTED THE MOST
00:18:27CONSERVATIVE MEMBER OF CONGRESS EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE. UH,
00:18:30I VOTED AGAINST, UH, THE OPEN
00:18:32BORDERS. SO TO MAKE THAT CLAIM
00:18:34IS, IS, IS SILLY. AND I GUESS
00:18:37SILLY SEASON IS HERE ON BOGUS CLAIMS. AND, UH, I'M, I WOULD
00:18:41NEVER GET THE RATINGS THAT I'VE GOTTEN BY ANY MEANS, BY ANY
00:18:44AGENCY. SO IT'S JUST BOGUS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
00:18:47>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL GO BACK TO MR. SANFORD. THE MAIN QUESTION ABOUT THE
00:18:50DEBT. YOU BROUGHT THIS UP IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, YOUR
00:18:53IDEAS TO ADDRESS AND REIN IN THE NATIONAL DEBT.
00:18:57>> IT GOES BACK TO ROLLING UP THE ELBOW, THE SLEEVES, AND
00:19:01ELBOW GREASE. I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT I DID AS GOVERNOR. WE HELD
00:19:04THE LINE ON GOVERNMENT SPENDING DURING THE EIGHT YEARS I WAS
00:19:07GOVERNOR. AS NO GOVERNOR HAS
00:19:10BEFORE OR SINCE, AND THEREFORE, WITH DUE RESPECT TO, FOR
00:19:13INSTANCE, MY COLLEAGUE,
00:19:15CONGRESSMAN FRY, YOU KNOW, HE
00:19:17WAS OVERRIDING VETOES OF, FOR
00:19:20INSTANCE, NIKKI HALEY, OR, FOR
00:19:22INSTANCE, GOVERNOR, UH, AND WHAT
00:19:26WE CAN'T DO IS MORE OF THE TALK ON THIS FRONT, BECAUSE THAT'S,
00:19:29THAT'S, IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT LIMITING GOVERNMENT SPENDING. BUT I REMEMBER
00:19:33CARRYING TWO PIGS, ONE IN EACH ARM, TO DECRY PORK BARREL SPENDING AHEAD OF THAT, WHICH WE
00:19:37WERE CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED TO DO IN HOLDING THE LINE ON.
00:19:41THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE. >> WORK, MR. FRY. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR TO ADDRESS THIS HISTORIC
00:19:44SURGE WE'VE SEEN IN THE NATIONAL DEBT. >> NOW, THINK ABOUT MY SON,
00:19:47JAMES. HE'S NINE YEARS OLD. WHAT IS THE FUTURE THAT HE WILL
00:19:50HAVE IN INHERIT EVERY GENERATION OF AMERICANS HAVE HANDED THIS
00:19:54COUNTRY OFF A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THEY FOUND IT. AND IS THIS
00:19:57GOING TO BE THE FIRST GENERATION THAT SAYS, SORRY, GUYS, WE
00:20:00MESSED UP. WE HAVE TO GET THE NATIONAL DEBT RIGHT? I THINK THE
00:20:03KEY WITH A FIRST STEP, AND I'VE SUPPORTED THIS AND VOTED FOR IT,
00:20:06IS WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUT BEYOND THAT, TOO, IT IS EASY TO TALK
00:20:10ABOUT CUTTING SPENDING. THE GAO
00:20:12ESTIMATES THAT $500 BILLION WALKS OUT OF THE U.S. TREASURY
00:20:17EVERY SINGLE YEAR IN WASTE, FRAUD, AND ABUSE. THAT SOUNDS
00:20:20LIKE A GOOD PLACE TO START. DOGE IS ANOTHER GOOD PLACE TO START.
00:20:24AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO SIMPLY CUT. WE
00:20:27HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO
00:20:30GROW THE ECONOMY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR TIME
00:20:33IS EXPIRED. LET'S GET TO OUR NEXT QUESTION. THIS ONE COMES
00:20:37FROM ANNA HARRIS AT CSC IN CHARLESTON.
00:20:40>> SOUTH CAROLINA'S UTILITY GRID IS FACING UNPRECEDENTED STRAIN
00:20:44FROM RAPID DATA CENTER AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH. AS SENATOR,
00:20:48HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BALANCE ATTRACTING THESE ENERGY
00:20:52INTENSIVE BUSINESSES AND ENSURING RELIABLE, AFFORDABLE
00:20:56POWER AND WATER FOR EVERYDAY SOUTH CAROLINIANS?
00:20:59>> MRS. GRAHAM, WE'LL START WITH YOU. THE PRESIDENT RECENTLY MADE THE STATEMENT THAT COMMUNITIES
00:21:02AROUND THE COUNTRY NEED TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM, WITH DATA CENTERS. IF WE HAVE CERTAIN
00:21:06PROTECTIONS IN PLACE. DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM? AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE UNDER YOUR
00:21:08POLICY? >> I DO AGREE WITH HIM. I WE
00:21:12CAN'T LET CHINA GET AHEAD IN
00:21:15THIS TECHNOLOGY COMPETITION.
00:21:17THEY CAN'T CONTROL AI. THEY
00:21:19CAN'T CONTROL TECHNOLOGY. I THINK WE NEED TO BUILD DATA
00:21:23CENTERS HERE. AND I THINK THE
00:21:26DATA, THE TECH COMPANIES SHOULD BUILD THE POWER PLANTS TO SUPPLY
00:21:29THE DATA CENTERS, BECAUSE THAT WAY IT DOESN'T DRIVE UP UTILITY
00:21:33COSTS FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN
00:21:35OR THE AVERAGE SOUTH CAROLINIAN.
00:21:37NOW, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS, THEY DON'T WANT THE DATA
00:21:41CENTERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE
00:21:44NOISE, THE DATA CENTERS. BUT WE
00:21:46HAVE TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AGAINST CHINA. THAT'S JUST A
00:21:50FACT. >> MR. LYNCH, WHAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU IN TERMS OF BALANCING
00:21:54DATA CENTERS WITH THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE POWER AND WATER? >> YES. DATA CENTERS HAVE BECOME
00:21:58A BIG ISSUE. AS I'VE TRAVELED
00:22:00THE STATE. IT IS A PAIN POINT FOR SOUTH CAROLINIANS. WE'RE
00:22:03TIRED OF WAKING UP AND SEEING
00:22:06100 ACRES OF TREES BULLDOZED, AND WE'RE TOLD THE DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO GO RIGHT NEXT TO
00:22:10OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS HORRIBLE. NOISE POLLUTION.
00:22:13THEY'RE ROBBING OUR WATER. IT TAKES MILLIONS OF GALLONS TO
00:22:16COOL THE DATA CENTERS. AND IT'S CAUSING OUR ELECTRIC UTILITIES
00:22:20TO INCREASE. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INFLATION AND
00:22:23AFFORDABILITY, AND WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT. SO WE GOT TO WE
00:22:26GOT TO HAVE THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE A SAY ON WHERE
00:22:29THEY'RE PUT. AND WE'RE BRINGING IN FLOCK CAMERAS NOW. AND
00:22:33THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. AND WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A SURVEILLANCE STATE WITH FLOCK
00:22:37CAMERAS. I'M THE ONLY ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND THAT'S,
00:22:41THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING OF AN INVASION OF OUR AMERICAN CITIZENS PRIVACY.
00:22:44>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SANFORD. YOUR POLICIES REGARDING DATA CENTERS AND HOW TO BALANCE
00:22:47IT WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY NEEDS. >> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A
00:22:51TWO FOLD ANSWER. I THINK AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, YOU NEED, UH,
00:22:55ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
00:22:57THAT GETS US IN LINE IN LOOKING AT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE UNITED
00:23:01STATES IS GOING TO COMPETE WITH CHINA, WE CANNOT FALL SECOND TO
00:23:04CHINA ON THIS FRONT. BUT, BUT TIED TO THAT, YOU NEED THIS
00:23:09NOTION OF FEDERALISM, OF LOCAL CONTROL. I THINK THE DESANTIS
00:23:12ADMINISTRATION IN FLORIDA GOT IT RIGHT WHEN THEY SAID, OKAY, WE
00:23:14WANT TO HAVE A STANDARD. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE THE DATA
00:23:18CENTER GOES, THAT IS A LOCAL DECISION. AND YOU CANNOT HAVE A
00:23:22DATA CENTER TAKING LOCAL WATER
00:23:24OR DRIVING UP LOCAL ELECTRIC
00:23:26PRICES, UH, TO THE EXCLUSION OF A LOCAL VOICE IN THAT PROCESS.
00:23:30SO I THINK IT'S A BIFURCATED ANSWER, AGAIN, A FEDERAL POLICY
00:23:34THAT ENCOURAGES, BUT LOCAL CONTROL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. FISCHER. THE PRESIDENT RECENTLY
00:23:37SAID THAT SMART COMMUNITIES ARE BEGGING FOR DATA CENTERS. DO YOU
00:23:41AGREE? AND WHAT ARE THE PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES LOOK LIKE IN YOUR PLAN?
00:23:43>> I THINK TWO THINGS CAN BE
00:23:45TRUE AT THE SAME TIME. ONE, WE'RE IN A RACE WITH CHINA ON
00:23:49WHO IS GOING TO CONTROL AI, WHO'S GOING TO CONTROL THESE
00:23:52TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES. AND SO THE, THE USE OF DATA CENTERS IS
00:23:56INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO TO PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED AND
00:24:00RIGHTFULLY DATA CENTERS AREN'T MEANT FOR EVERY COMMUNITY. IF THEY'RE RIGHT FOR A CERTAIN
00:24:04COMMUNITY, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE ONE. IF THEY DON'T WANT ONE,
00:24:07THEN THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE
00:24:10FORCED TO SWALLOW THAT. AND SO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA ON
00:24:13THIS IS QUITE CLEAR. DATA CENTERS MUST PAY THEIR OWN WAY IN POWER. THEY MUST PAY THEIR
00:24:17OWN WAY IN WATER. THEY CAN'T BE
00:24:21NOISY AND HAVE NOISE POLLUTION. THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT ONEROUS, BUT THEY'VE
00:24:23GOT TO HAVE A LEAST, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FOOTPRINT POSSIBLE.
00:24:27UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT SUCKING UP THE RESOURCES THAT OUR CITIZENS.
00:24:30>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. NORMAN. YOUR STANCE ON DATA
00:24:32CENTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA. >> DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO
00:24:36HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE AMOUNT OF WATER USAGE, ELECTRICAL USAGE EACH COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE
00:24:40TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN IT. YOU CAN'T JUST LET THEM RUN WILD.
00:24:43AS FAR AS OUR UTILITY RATES, THE
00:24:46MONOPOLIES ARE CONTROLLING IT. WE HAVE THE CALLS THAT I GET
00:24:50FROM THAT SINGLE MOM, FROM THAT BUSINESS OWNER. THE UTILITY
00:24:53RATES ARE SKYROCKETING. NUCLEAR ENERGY IS THE WAVE OF THE
00:24:57FUTURE. BUT IT'S GOT TO BE DONE
00:25:00IN AN EDUCATED WAY. IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
00:25:04PUBLIC, PRIVATE, UH, GROUPS
00:25:08GETTING INVOLVED WITH OUR ENERGY. UH, AND WE'VE GOT TO
00:25:11MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AFFORDABLE. AND BEFORE ANY DOLLARS, PUBLIC
00:25:14DOLLARS ARE SPENT, WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY
00:25:17MUCH. LET'S MOVE TO OUR NEXT QUESTION. IT COMES FROM WENDY
00:25:20DAMERON WITH THE PALMETTO
00:25:23PROMISE INSTITUTE. MANY OF YOU HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE
00:25:26SAVE ACT, BUT SENATE MAJORITY LEADER JOHN THUNE SAYS
00:25:30REPUBLICANS DO NOT HAVE THE VOTES TO OVERCOME A FILIBUSTER
00:25:33OR CHANGE SENATE RULES TO PASS
00:25:35IT IF ELECTED. WHAT IS YOUR
00:25:40REALISTIC PATH TO GETTING THE LEGISLATION ENACTED? ALL RIGHT, MR. LYNCH, THIS TIME, WE'LL START WITH YOU. AND JUST TO
00:25:43REITERATE, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS YOUR REALISTIC PATH TO
00:25:47GETTING THE LEGISLATION ENACTED? >> YES, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A
00:25:50SAFE ACT, AND IT'S A SHAME WE HAVE TO HAVE IT WITH ALL THE
00:25:53ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT HAVE COME INTO THIS COUNTRY WITH 40
00:25:56MILLION ILLEGALS HERE UNDER THIS MASS DEPORTATION EXERCISE. SO WE
00:26:00ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE AN ID
00:26:02AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. BUT THAT'S ALL WE GOT TO HAVE A
00:26:06CLEAN, SAFE ACT. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TIED TO MORE PORK AND
00:26:09OTHER THINGS THAT ARE SNEAKING
00:26:11IN. WE HAD, WE HAD THE NDA, A,
00:26:14UH, CONNECTED TO THAT RECENTLY. AND THAT PASSED IN THE, IN THE
00:26:18HOUSE. AND IT CAME OUT FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE PASSED THE
00:26:21SAFE ACT. WELL, WE CAN'T, WE
00:26:24CAN'T, WE CAN'T MERGE OUR MILITARY INTELLIGENCE WITH ANY OTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY AND GIVE
00:26:28THEM ALL OF OUR SECRETS. THAT'S LOSING AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY IN
00:26:32OUR COUNTRY, THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT. THAT'S AMERICA FIRST.
00:26:35>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SANFORD. YOUR POSITION ON THE SAVE ACT.
00:26:38>> I HAVE TO SAY, WE'RE LIVING IN CRAZY TIMES. I MEAN, THE FACT
00:26:41THAT THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK NOW
00:26:44WANTS TO REQUIRE A AN ID TO USE ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED
00:26:48GROCERY STORES IN NEW YORK. YET
00:26:51YOU DON'T NEED ID TO TO TAKE A VOTE. I MEAN, THIS JUST MAKES NO
00:26:54SENSE TO ME. SO I SUPPORT THE
00:26:57SAVE ACT. AND I, YOU KNOW, WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, JOHN THUNE DOESN'T HAVE THE REPUBLICAN
00:27:00VOTES. I THINK IT GOES BACK TO
00:27:02HAVING STALWART REPUBLICAN VOTES ON CORE CONSERVATIVE ISSUES. AND
00:27:06THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO LOOK AT MY VOTING
00:27:08RECORD, NOT MY WORDS, BUT MY VOTING RECORD AND WHAT WE WERE
00:27:12ABLE TO DO WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR
00:27:14IN ENACTING AND FORWARDING POLICIES THAT ULTIMATELY
00:27:17BETTERED PEOPLE'S LIVES HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, MR. FREY, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE ALREADY
00:27:21IN OFFICE. WHAT'S BEEN THE GRIDLOCK AND HOW WOULD YOU PUSH THROUGH IT?
00:27:25>> THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH WASHINGTON, D.C., AND QUITE
00:27:27FRANKLY, IT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE SENATE. YOU HAVE A PRODUCT
00:27:30CALLED THE SAVE AMERICA ACT THAT 80% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE
00:27:34WITH, THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ID TO VOTE, THAT YOU SHOULD BE A
00:27:38CITIZEN IN ORDER TO VOTE IN AMERICAN ELECTIONS. IT'S PASSED
00:27:41THE HOUSE AT THIS POINT FOUR TIMES, FOUR IN THE SENATE HAS
00:27:44DONE NOTHING. THAT IS THE
00:27:47PROBLEM, THAT SOMEHOW IT'S PARTISAN AND DIVISIVE WHEN IT
00:27:50CROSSES THE POTOMAC, THE SENATE
00:27:51NEEDS TO BE SHAKEN UP. THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS IS NOT THE
00:27:55WAY THAT WE NEED TO DO THINGS NOW. AND IF THAT MEANS CHANGING
00:27:58THE RULES OF THE SENATE AND CHANGING THE FILIBUSTER, THEN WE
00:28:02ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THAT. THERE ARE 200 BILLS IN THE SENATE RIGHT NOW FROM THE HOUSE
00:28:05WAITING TO BE PICKED UP BY THE
00:28:07SENATE. THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. >> MR.. NORMAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE
00:28:11ALREADY HAVE VOTER ID. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THE SAFE ACT IS IMPORTANT, AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO
00:28:14TO HELP SECURE THE PASSAGE?
00:28:16>> THE SAFE ACT, TO EVEN HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS, AND FOR THIS NOT
00:28:20TO PASS? THE SENATE IS AN ABOMINATION. THE FOUNDERS WOULD
00:28:23BE WOULD BE UNBELIEVABLY ASTONISHED THAT THIS IS
00:28:27HAPPENING. UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL
00:28:28DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO, TO MAKE
00:28:31THE CASE FOR ABOLISHING THE FILIBUSTER. KEEP THEM UP ALL
00:28:34NIGHT, WAKE THEM UP, KEEP THEM UP, AND MAKE THEM TALK. IF THE
00:28:38FILIBUSTER WON'T WORK, UH, TRY ANY OTHER MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO
00:28:42COME UP WITH. WE'RE TRYING IT. WE PASSED IT 3 OR 4 TIMES IN THE
00:28:45HOUSE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY IT THROUGH RECONCILIATION, WHERE
00:28:47YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE 50 VOTES,
00:28:5051 VOTES, WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT. UH, ANY MEANS. THIS
00:28:53IS THE MOST IMPORTANT BILL IN
00:28:55THIS COUNTRY, THE PROTECTING OUR
00:28:58ELECTIONS AND MAKING SURE AMERICANS VOTE. AND ONLY
00:29:01AMERICANS VOTE. >> AND, MRS. GRAHAM, SAME QUESTION.
00:29:04>> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WAS CO-SPONSOR THE SAVE AMERICA
00:29:07ACT. AS I SAID EARLIER, I'M WILLING TO STAY THROUGH RECESS
00:29:10TO GET IT DONE. WHAT'S UP WITH
00:29:13RECESS, ANYWAY? WHO GETS A MONTH
00:29:15OFF FROM WORK? I THINK WE SHOULD
00:29:18STAY UP THERE AND WORK AND GET
00:29:19IT DONE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ID
00:29:23TO CHECK OUT A LIBRARY BOOK TO BUY ALCOHOL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO
00:29:26HAVE AN ID TO VOTE. THAT'S
00:29:28ABSURD. IN NEW JERSEY, THEY HAD
00:29:316600 PEOPLE NONCITIZENS,
00:29:35NON-CITIZENS REGISTERED TO VOTE IN. SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THEM DID
00:29:38VOTE IN OUR ELECTION. AND I AM
00:29:42ALL FOR. THIS IS WHERE I DIFFER FROM MY BROTHER GETTING RID OF
00:29:44THE FILIBUSTER TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO GET RID
00:29:48OF IT ANYWAY. >> ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT QUESTION
00:29:51COMES FROM ERIC WEISFELD AT WMF
00:29:54IN MYRTLE BEACH. >> REPUBLICANS HAVE ALREADY
00:29:57TRIED AND FAILED TO REPEAL OBAMACARE. DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING
00:30:01FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL. NO DOUBT, HEALTH CARE IS ALREADY SHAPING
00:30:03UP TO BE A BIG ISSUE IN
00:30:06NOVEMBER. WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER
00:30:07FOR FIXING AMERICA'S HEALTH CARE SYSTEM?
00:30:11>> MR. SANFORD, WE'LL START WITH YOU. WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS
00:30:13AND POLICIES FOR ADDRESSING THE HEALTH CARE CRISIS?
00:30:16>> WELL, WHEN I WAS IN CONGRESS, I ACTUALLY AUTHORED THE
00:30:19ALTERNATIVE TO OBAMACARE. IT WAS
00:30:21A CONSERVATIVE SOLUTION, AND IT
00:30:24WAS CONTINGENT AND RESTED UPON THIS IDEA OF PERSONALIZED
00:30:26SAVINGS ACCOUNTS OF, OF A
00:30:28VARIETY OF THINGS. BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE LINCHPIN. BECAUSE IF
00:30:31YOU LOOK AT THIS IDEA OF
00:30:33CHANGING THE DYNAMIC, AND THERE'S UNLIMITED DEMAND TO
00:30:36SPEND BASICALLY SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE
00:30:39IN PLACE WITH THE THIRD PARTY PAYER SYSTEM. AND THIS WAS
00:30:43MOVING US TO A PRIMARY PAYER SYSTEM WHEREIN PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
00:30:46A SAVINGS ACCOUNT, BUILD A DRAW
00:30:48DOWN ON THAT ACCOUNT, AND SEE
00:30:52THE SAVINGS THAT GO WITH THE RESTRAINT THAT GOES WITH SPENDING YOUR OWN MONEY. IT HAD
00:30:54A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS TIED
00:30:56TO, TO TORT REFORM AND TO, IN
00:31:00ESSENCE, ENABLING THE, THE CUSTOMER TO HAVE MORE CHOICES. TIME HAS EXPIRED.
00:31:04>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. FREY. YOUR IDEAS FOR MAKING
00:31:06HEALTH CARE MORE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE. >> I THINK IT STARTS ACTUALLY IN
00:31:09RURAL HEALTH CARE. AND ONE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL. THERE WAS A RURAL HEALTH CARE FUND THAT WAS
00:31:13CREATED. I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY KEY TO HAVE ACCESS IN A RURAL COMMUNITY. IT SHOULDN'T
00:31:17TAKE YOU THREE HOURS TO DRIVE TO THE NEAREST HOSPITAL WHEN THERE
00:31:20IS AN EMERGENCY. I THINK SUPPORTING RURAL COMMUNITIES IS
00:31:23ABSOLUTELY VITAL. BEYOND THAT, THERE'S TREMENDOUS FRAUD. AS WE
00:31:25HAVE SEEN IN SOME OF THESE GOVERNMENT REPORTS. IN HEALTH
00:31:29CARE, WE HAVE STATES THAT ARE BILKING THE FEDERAL TREASURY
00:31:32BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE
00:31:33YEAR. IF WE'RE GOING TO SUSTAIN
00:31:38MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SOLVENT AND THAT THEY ARE DOING
00:31:40THE JOB AS INTENDED. DEMOCRATS WANT TO BANKRUPT THAT SYSTEM, SO
00:31:44WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE FRAUD AND THE WASTE. WE HAVE TO GET
00:31:47STATES ON PARITY WITH THE COST. THAT'S HOW YOU SAVE HEALTH CARE
00:31:50AND LOWER COST. PRICE. TRANSPARENCY IS A BIG KEY OF
00:31:54THAT, TOO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MR. NORMAN. >> YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I
00:31:58THINK MOST AMERICANS CAN AGREE ON, OBAMACARE IS NOT WORKING.
00:32:01YOU REMEMBER WHEN PELOSI SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO PASS IT, AND
00:32:04BEFORE YOU READ IT, IT'S NOT
00:32:06WORKING. WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO
00:32:10IS GET BACK TO HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS, WHERE DEDUCTIBILITY FOR BUSINESSES, WE HAVE TO GIVE
00:32:13ALL AMERICANS A REASON TO PICK WHAT THEY WANT COVERED INSTEAD
00:32:17OF MANDATORY COVERAGE. AND AS
00:32:19HAS BEEN SAID, THE WASTE, FRAUD, AND ABUSE THAT'S ALL OVER THIS
00:32:23COUNTRY. THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF
00:32:25THE ICEBERG. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE HEALTH CARE THAT FITS EVERY DAY.
00:32:29AMERICANS, IT'S NOT WORKING.
00:32:30NOW. THE PREMIUMS ARE OUT OF CONTROL FOR FOR THAT SINGLE MOM.
00:32:34AND THAT BUSINESS IS STRUGGLING
00:32:35TO PAY THE PREMIUMS. WE'VE GOT
00:32:38TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S WORKABLE AND GET IT THROUGH THE HOUSE. IN THE SENATE.
00:32:41>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MRS. GRAHAM. YOUR SPECIFIC IDEAS FOR
00:32:45MAKING HEALTHCARE MORE ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR SOUTH CAROLINIANS?
00:32:47>> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY WE DO
00:32:49HAVE TO PROTECT MEDICARE FOR
00:32:51ELDERS. THAT FOR SURE. BUT
00:32:54HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE KILLING
00:32:56SOUTH CAROLINIANS. IT CAN EASILY
00:32:58BANKRUPT A BANKRUPT A FAMILY. I
00:33:01HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS WITH SERIOUS HEALTH CARE ISSUES. ONE HAS HAD
00:33:04BRAIN SURGERY, AND SHE CONTINUES TO BE IN AND OUT OF THE
00:33:07EMERGENCY ROOM. SO MEDICAL BILLS
00:33:10ARE JUST RACKING UP. AND IT IS
00:33:12CRAZY. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
00:33:16ABOUT IT. TRANSPARENCY IN
00:33:17PRICING, I THINK, IS ONE WAY. IF
00:33:20YOU HAVE A MEDICAL PROCEDURE, YOU NEED TO KNOW UP FRONT THE COST OF IT SO THAT YOU CAN SHOP
00:33:24AROUND. IF YOU GO BUY GROCERIES OR GO BUY A CAR, YOU KNOW THE
00:33:27PRICE SO THAT YOU CAN SHOP AROUND. THIS CREATES COMPETITION
00:33:31AND DRIVES DOWN THE COST. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MR.
00:33:34LYNCH, YOUR ANSWER ON THIS ISSUE.
00:33:37>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. OBAMACARE HAS BEEN A DISASTER. DAVE RAMSEY TALKED ABOUT IT. IF WE'RE GOING
00:33:41TO PAY FOR EVERYBODY'S HEALTH CARE, IT'S MATH. IT'S GOING TO
00:33:44GO UP FOR EVERYBODY. THOSE OF US
00:33:46WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY IT, IT'S REALLY STILL OUT OF REACH, AND
00:33:50IT'S OUT OF REACH FOR MANY FAMILIES, THERE'S A PRICE
00:33:53FIXING ISSUE IN THE INDUSTRY. EVERY TIME WE RENEW OUR HEALTH
00:33:56CARE AND OUR BUSINESS, WE LOOK AT SEVERAL AGENCIES. THE PRICE
00:33:59IS THE SAME FROM EVERYBODY. THE
00:34:01COMPETITION HAS BEEN ELIMINATED.
00:34:04THE DOCTORS ARE VYING FOR THEIR FAIR SHARE. THERE'S A CASH PRICE
00:34:07AND AN INSURANCE PRICE, WHICH IS
00:34:09CRAZY. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A BILL THAT'S 10,000 PAGES, THERE'S
00:34:12ALL KIND OF PORK THAT GOT IN THERE THAT NOBODY EVER EVEN
00:34:16READ. THERE'S NO WAY TO READ THAT. OBAMA, UH, THREATENED TO
00:34:20CLOSE THE COUNTRY DOWN AND CLOSE THE GOVERNMENT DOWN UNLESS WE SIGNED THE BILL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
00:34:24YOU VERY MUCH. OUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. OUR NEXT QUESTION NOW FROM JOEY HUDSON AT WORD RADIO
00:34:28IN THE UPSTATE. >> BORDER SECURITY REMAINS ONE
00:34:30OF THE TOP CONCERNS AMONG REPUBLICAN VOTERS BEYOND SIMPLY
00:34:34SECURING THE BORDER. WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO ABOUT THE MILLIONS
00:34:37OF PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY ENTERED
00:34:40OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY? >> MR. FRY? >> WELL, I THINK IT STARTS WITH
00:34:44FUNDING. I MEAN, I THINK IT STARTS WITH SUPPORTING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BACKING THE BLUE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I THINK
00:34:47WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE ONE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL IN HOMELAND
00:34:50SECURITY FUNDING PROVISIONS. LOOK, IF WE DON'T HAVE A BORDER,
00:34:53WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTRY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS RIGHT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS,
00:34:56IT DOESN'T JUST STOP AT BORDER SECURITY. WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE
00:35:01LOOPHOLES THAT BIDEN USED TO IMPORT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE INTO
00:35:04THIS COUNTRY. I THINK ABOUT THE COST OF RENT FOR A FAMILY THAT
00:35:07HAS DRIVEN UP BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I
00:35:10THINK ABOUT THE HOSPITAL THAT
00:35:12PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HAVE THEIR FIRST CHILD AT THAT'S BEING TAKEN UP BECAUSE THERE'S AN
00:35:16ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN THIS
00:35:18COUNTRY. USE THE TOOLS, CHANGE,
00:35:21CHANGE THE RULES, GET RID OF
00:35:24THESE ASYLUM AND PAROLE LOOPHOLES, AND DEPORT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELONG.
00:35:28>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. NORMAN. WHAT WOULD YOU SUPPORT IN TERMS OF BORDER SECURITY?
00:35:31>> WELL, WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IS RIGHT. YOU FINISH
00:35:34BUILDING THE WALL, YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT YOU GET THE ILLEGALS
00:35:37OUT OF THE COUNTRY. UH, AND I REMEMBER VISITING THE BORDER
00:35:41EARLY ON, IN FOOD, MEDICINE
00:35:43CLOTHES WERE STACKED UP. LOOK AT
00:35:45THE COST. THAT IS, THAT IS BEING BORNE BY AMERICANS WHO HAD NO
00:35:49SAY. SO IN THIS. THE BIDEN
00:35:50ADMINISTRATION DID THIS TO CREATE A VOTING BLOCK SO THAT IT
00:35:54WOULD KEEP THEM IN POWER. UH, SO
00:35:56GET THEM OUT. UH, MAKE SURE SANCTUARY CITIES ARE NOT FUNDED.
00:35:59IF YOU DON'T ABIDE WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS, DON'T FUND
00:36:03THEM. THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN
00:36:04SAVE SOME MONEY AND GET AND PUT COMMON SENSE BACK INTO IT. BUT
00:36:08HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND IT'S DESPITE MEDIA DISAPPROVAL,
00:36:12HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH THAT. >> MRS. GRAHAM, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS ISSUE?
00:36:16>> THIS ONE'S EASY. THIS IS, I THINK, ANOTHER REASON PRESIDENT
00:36:19TRUMP ENDORSED ME. I'LL BE GLAD TO STAND WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
00:36:22ANYBODY THAT'S HERE ILLEGALLY, THEY NEED TO BE WALKED RIGHT
00:36:26BACK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY
00:36:28IMMEDIATELY. I'M ALL FOR SUPPORTING AND FUNDING ICE. I
00:36:32SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
00:36:35PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE A GREAT JOB PROTECTING OUR BORDERS. UH,
00:36:38THESE PEOPLE COME IN, THEY TAKE OUR JOBS, THEY RUN UP THE COST
00:36:41OF HEALTH CARE BECAUSE THEY'RE RECEIVING FREE HEALTH CARE. SO,
00:36:44AGAIN, I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB
00:36:48PROTECTING OUR BORDERS. AND I'LL CONTINUE TO STAND WITH HIM.
00:36:52>> MR. LYNCH, ANY DAYLIGHT BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR OTHER CANDIDATES HERE ON THIS ISSUE?
00:36:54>> YES, WE HAVE CAREER POLITICIANS ON THE STAGE. MR.
00:36:58FREY, OBVIOUSLY, FROM MASS
00:36:59AMNESTY, BY ENDORSING LINDSEY GRAHAM AND MR. NORMAN, UH, VOTED
00:37:03ON AN ALLIES ACT THAT BROUGHT
00:37:068000 ILLEGAL AFGHANS INTO OUR COUNTRY. THAT'S A NATIONAL
00:37:10SECURITY THREAT. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND IT'S TIME TO
00:37:13BRING SOMEBODY IN THAT WILL DO THE RIGHT THING, WILL STAND UP
00:37:14TO THIS. OUR IMMIGRATION
00:37:18POLICIES ARE WRONG. WE NEED TO
00:37:20HAVE A MORATORIUM AND GET CAUGHT UP AND, AND GET WITH ICE AND
00:37:24BRING IN THE 287 G PROGRAMS TO
00:37:27LOCAL CITY POLICE AND SHERIFFS. THAT ALLOWS THEM TO ARREST,
00:37:30DETAIN, AND DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS LIKE ICE DOES. THEY NEED
00:37:33A HAND, AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT
00:37:34THAT WITH OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
00:37:38>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REBUTTAL FIRST, MR. FARRINGDON, MR. NORMAN 30s
00:37:42>> ABOUT WITH MASS AMNESTY, QUITE FRANKLY. I SUPPORT LINDSEY GRAHAM IN THE FIRST PRIMARY, UH,
00:37:46BECAUSE HE STOOD WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP, WITH THE TRUMP AGENDA.
00:37:49UH, AND HE WAS A STALWART. HE DID A LOT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS
00:37:51STATE. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I LOOKED AT THIS PARTICULAR RACE
00:37:55WITH YOU AND SAID, WOW, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE OPPONENT. UH,
00:37:58THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO LEGALIZE ILLICIT DRUGS IN OUR
00:38:01COMMUNITIES. THAT'S NOT WHAT SOUTH CAROLINA WANTS. I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY PRESIDENT, AND
00:38:05I'M GONNA STICK WITH MY SENIOR SENATOR. >> AND, MR. NORMAN, YOUR
00:38:08REBUTTAL. 30s. >> UH, MR. LYNCH, I HAVE NO IDEA
00:38:11WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT ILLEGAL
00:38:15IMMIGRATION AND VOTED ON BILLS. THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. AGAIN, A
00:38:17SILLY SEASON WITH THOSE WHO ARE
00:38:20TRYING TO MAKE ISSUES OUT OF
00:38:22NON-EXISTENT ISSUES. NO, IMMIGRATION IS A IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY. WE'RE
00:38:26GOING TO TRY. THE PRESIDENT IS FIXING IT, AND I STICK WITH HIM.
00:38:29I WILL VOTE EVERY TIME TO GET
00:38:31THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK WITH,
00:38:34LEGAL IMMIGRATION, NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. >> ALL RIGHT, MR. SANFORD, WE NEED TO COME TO YOU ON THIS
00:38:39QUESTION. WE NEED TO RESERVE TIME TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS THEIR CLOSING STATEMENTS. IF YOU
00:38:42HAVE A REBUTTAL, INCLUDE IT THERE. BUT, MR. SANFORD, YOUR
00:38:44POSITION ON BORDER SECURITY.
00:38:47>> ABSOLUTELY AGREE AND HAVE VOTED ACCORDINGLY ON THE
00:38:50IMPORTANCE OF BORDER SECURITY.
00:38:52SECURE BORDER IS INDEED A KEY TO
00:38:54SOVEREIGNTY ITSELF. UH, SAME ON SANCTUARY CITIES, SAME ON
00:38:58ADEQUATELY FUNDING LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO THE ENFORCEMENT MEASURES, UH, HERE IN THE
00:39:02COUNTRY. BUT I THINK, AGAIN, ONE OF THE DISTINGUISHING ELEMENTS
00:39:06OF WHERE I COME FROM IS THE RESULTS IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU
00:39:09SAW IN THE GOVERNORSHIP AND ACTUALLY HOLDING THE LINE ON
00:39:12SPENDING, WHAT YOU SAW IN THIS ISSUE IS THE REAL ID. WE ENACTED
00:39:15IT WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR, AND IT HAD A MATERIAL EFFECT. A LOT OF
00:39:18GOVERNORS WEREN'T DOING IT, A MATERIAL EFFECT, BECAUSE NOW
00:39:21YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO CATCH
00:39:23THE BAD GUYS. YOU WERE BASICALLY EMPOWERING LOCAL EMPLOYERS TO
00:39:27SAY, I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T HIRE YOU, BECAUSE IF NOT, THEY'RE
00:39:30GOING TO COME LOOKING FOR US. I THINK REAL ID WAS, AGAIN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR FINAL QUESTION FROM JUSTIN
00:39:34DOUGHERTY IN THE UPSTATE.
00:39:37>> THE WAR IN IRAN CONTINUES. WHEN IT BEGAN, IT WAS SAID IT
00:39:41WOULD ONLY LAST 4 TO 5 WEEKS,
00:39:44BUT NOW IT JUST ENTERED ITS SIXTH MONTH. AMERICAN TROOPS
00:39:48CONTINUE TO BE KILLED IN THE MIDDLE EAST. AND THE COST OF THE
00:39:50WAR CONTINUES TO INCREASE. DO
00:39:53YOU THINK IT IS NOW TIME TO END THE WAR IN IRAN? AND IF SO, HOW
00:39:56DO YOU WANT TO SEE IT END? >> AND AGAIN, CANDIDATES, WE DO
00:40:00NOT HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. SO IF YOU CAN FOCUS PRECISELY ON
00:40:03THIS QUESTION ABOUT ENDING THE WAR IN IRAN, MR.. NORMAN?
00:40:06>> YEAH, I MEAN, IRAN HAS BEEN
00:40:07AT WAR WITH AMERICA FOR 44
00:40:10YEARS. THEY'VE KILLED AMERICAN TROOPS DURING THAT TIME. UH, THE
00:40:13FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TAKEN OUT THE NUMBER ONE SPONSOR
00:40:16OF TERROR. LOOK, COMPARE THAT TO
00:40:20WHAT A WHAT BIDEN DID. OBAMA DID PAY CASH. HE DIDN'T DO THAT.
00:40:23HE'S DISABLED. MOST OF THE MILITARY. UH, IT HAS GONE ON
00:40:26LONGER. BUT THE PRESIDENT IS
00:40:28DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN. THEY'RE
00:40:32MILITARY GENERALS NOW THAT ARE SAYING IT'S GOING TO REALLY ELIMINATE THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT BOOTS ON THE
00:40:35GROUND. I DON'T THINK THE COUNTRY WANTS THAT RIGHT NOW. I
00:40:38THINK THAT HE WILL EVENTUALLY,
00:40:41SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, USE WHATEVER POWER FROM THE AIR TO TAKE THEM OUT. AND I THINK IT'S
00:40:45THE RIGHT COURSE TO TAKE. >> MRS. GRAHAM, IS IT TIME TO
00:40:48END THE WAR IN IRAN? IF SO, HOW?
00:40:50>> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH
00:40:54PRESIDENT TRUMP ON STANDING WITH ISRAEL. THEY ARE AN EXTREMELY
00:40:57IMPORTANT ALLY OF THE UNITED
00:41:00STATES. WE CANNOT ALLOW
00:41:02TERRORISTS TO BUILD NUCLEAR
00:41:05MISSILES, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KILL AMERICANS.
00:41:09THAT'S JUST THE SAD TRUTH. IF THEY BUILD A NUCLEAR MISSILES,
00:41:11THEIR GOAL IS TO COME HERE AND KILL US. SO THE MORE WE CAN
00:41:15FIGHT THEM OVER THERE AND PREVENT IT OVER THERE, THE
00:41:18BETTER FOR THE UNITED STATES.
00:41:20I'M ALL FOR PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. I BELIEVE IN PEACE
00:41:23THROUGH STRENGTH, FOR SURE. THE DEMOCRATS, ON THE OTHER HAND,
00:41:27WANT TO DEFUND EVERYTHING,
00:41:29JEOPARDIZE OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY,
00:41:32OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. SO WE WOULD BE IN A HUGE MESS IF WE.
00:41:36>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LYNCH. YOUR POSITION ON THE WAR IN IRAN.
00:41:39>> I SUPPORT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF, PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO
00:41:42DEFEND OUR NATION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
00:41:46ON. HAVING SAID THAT, WE'VE BEEN
00:41:49OVER THERE. WE'VE GONE IN, AS
00:41:51WE'VE HAD PRECISE STRATEGIC
00:41:53TACTICAL ATTACKS, AND WE CAN'T
00:41:56ALLOW IRAN TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. HAVING DONE THAT, IT'S
00:42:00TIME TO BRING OUR MEN AND WOMEN HOME, TO GET THEM OUT OF HARM'S
00:42:03WAY AND GET BACK TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IN AMERICA. AND
00:42:07THAT'S ATTACKING THE PRICES OF OUR FUEL, BRINGING THAT BACK
00:42:10DOWN, AND INCREASING AFFORDABILITY SO THAT OUR YOUNG
00:42:14GENERATION, WHEN THEY LEAVE AND GO OUT, THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY A
00:42:16HOME AND PAY FOR THEIR GAS AND PAY FOR THEIR GROCERIES AGAIN,
00:42:20AND HAVE THE DREAM WE'VE ALL ENJOYED IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
00:42:23SANFORD. IS IT TIME TO END THE WAR? IF SO, HOW? >> UH.
00:42:27>> IT'S A DIFFERENT DECISION. SO I APPLAUD THE PRESIDENT
00:42:30AGAIN, GOING AFTER A NUCLEAR
00:42:33IRAN, SOMETHING THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. I APPLAUD HIS EFFORT TO
00:42:35WIPE OUT TERRORISM FROM THAT
00:42:37PART OF THE WORLD. BUT IT IS MY VERY STRONG BELIEF, AND THIS IS
00:42:41PERSONAL. WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR, I TRIED TO GO TO EVERY FUNERAL. I
00:42:44DIDN'T MAKE EVERY ONE OF SERVICEMEN LOST IN THE MIDDLE
00:42:48EAST THAT WERE BRINGING, BEING
00:42:50BROUGHT HOME. AND, UM, IT'S A VERY HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO BE
00:42:54IN THE CHURCH OR IN SOMEBODY'S HOUSE AS THEY'VE LOST A LOVED
00:42:57ONE. ONLY CONGRESS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECLARE WAR. THIS
00:43:01DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE BY
00:43:02CONGRESS. AND I HAVE A LONG
00:43:06HISTORY AGAINST THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION IN SAYING THIS DECISION, BECAUSE BODY BAGS
00:43:09DON'T GO BACK TO WASHINGTON. THEY COME BACK TO HOME STATES AND CONGRESSIONAL.
00:43:13>> THANK YOU VERY. >> MUCH. >> MR. SPEAKER. IS THERE ANY DAYLIGHT BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR
00:43:16OPPONENTS ON THIS ISSUE? >> I THINK A NUCLEAR IRAN IS
00:43:20SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY UNFATHOMABLE TO CONCEIVE,
00:43:23BECAUSE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON IS DESTABILIZE
00:43:26THE MIDDLE EAST, THREATEN OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, AND THREATEN
00:43:30THE WEST. THIS CAN. PRESIDENT TRUMP INHERITED THIS PROBLEM.
00:43:33THIS CAN HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR DECADES, AND HE TOOK ACTION TO STOP THAT. I
00:43:37THINK WE NEED TO FINISH THE MISSION, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED,
00:43:40WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, IS THAT IRAN NEEDS TO BE DEFANGED. YOU
00:43:43WANT TO HATE US, GO AHEAD AND
00:43:45HATE US. BUT YOU DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING THE THE MILITARY
00:43:49CAPABILITY TO STRIKE COMMERCE, THREATEN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ
00:43:52AND REGIONAL PARTNERS. AND SO NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND. I'M NOT A BELIEVER IN THAT. MY BROTHER
00:43:56SERVED IN IRAQ, AND I'VE LOST
00:43:59FRIENDS IN FOREIGN WARS. BUT WE CAN FINISH THE MISSION BY
00:44:01DEFANGING IRAN AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE NO CAPABILITIES LEFT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
00:44:05CANDIDATES. WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. AS PART OF YOUR CLOSING
00:44:09STATEMENTS TO MAKE YOUR FINAL PITCH TO SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS.
00:44:11WE'LL BE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS. WELCOME BACK TO OUR CLOSING
00:44:15SEGMENT OF THE GOP DEBATE. CANDIDATES, I'D LIKE TO USE THE
00:44:19CLOSING STATEMENTS TO ADDRESS A CRITICAL ISSUE IN SOUTH CAROLINA
00:44:22THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, AND HOSPITALS. AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, SOUTH CAROLINA
00:44:26IS ONE OF THE FEW STATES THAT
00:44:29HAS NOT EXPANDED MEDICAID, THOUGH OUR TAXPAYING FUNDS, OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS HERE IN SOUTH
00:44:32CAROLINA, ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO THE QUESTION IS THIS. OBVIOUSLY,
00:44:36OPPONENTS SAY THAT IT GROWS GOVERNMENT, BUT SUPPORTERS SAY
00:44:40THAT EXPANDING MEDICAID WOULD PROVIDE MORE COVERAGE FOR
00:44:42WORKING ADULTS. MY QUESTION IS
00:44:45THIS, WHICH CARRIES MORE WEIGHT IN YOUR MIND AND IN YOUR CLOSING
00:44:48STATEMENT, PROVIDE AN ANSWER IN
00:44:50TERMS OF HOW YOUR PLAN REPRESENTS THE BEST FUTURE FOR
00:44:54SOUTH CAROLINA. MR. SANFORD 90s.
00:44:58>> THE AGE OLD QUESTION OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS, IF WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, THEN WE
00:45:02CAN DO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE ARE
00:45:06AT A TIPPING POINT AS A CIVILIZATION, WHEREIN WE HAVE TO
00:45:09SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. YOU KNOW,
00:45:10IT TOOK US 193 YEARS TO
00:45:14ACCUMULATE $1 TRILLION OF DEBT. AND YET OVER THE NEXT 100 DAYS,
00:45:16WE'LL ADD ANOTHER 100, UH, ADD
00:45:20ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT. I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE ASTOUNDING. AND SO THE QUESTION,
00:45:24I THINK THAT REALLY IS, BEFORE ALL OF US IS, HOW DO WE DO
00:45:27SOMETHING ABOUT IT? I WOULD VOTE FOR EVERY CANDIDATE HERE BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SAID. THE
00:45:31QUESTION IS, WHAT HAVE THEY
00:45:33DONE? AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RECORD ON A WHOLE HOST OF
00:45:37DIFFERENT ISSUES TIED TO, AGAIN, LIMITING GOVERNMENT, MAXIMIZING
00:45:41FREEDOM, AND THIS OLD FASHIONED, OLD FASHIONED NOTION OF LIBERTY,
00:45:45I THINK THAT YOU WOULD SEE REMARKABLE RESULTS IN ACTUALLY
00:45:49HOLDING THE LINE ON GOVERNMENT SPENDING, WHICH I THINK IS THE
00:45:51REAL ILL OF WASHINGTON. AGAIN,
00:45:53WITH DUE RESPECT TO REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., THEY'VE NOT
00:45:57BEEN DOING THAT. AND, YOU KNOW,
00:46:01PRESIDENT TRUMP NEEDS HELP ON THAT FRONT. AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY, LOOK AT OUR RECORD AND WHAT
00:46:04WE'RE ABLE TO DO. UH, WE AGAIN, HELD THE LINE ON GOVERNMENT
00:46:08SPENDING AS NO GOVERNOR HAS BEFORE OR SINCE. AND IT HAS REAL
00:46:10WORLD IMPLICATIONS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NOTION OF
00:46:14AFFORDABILITY FOR FAMILIES ACROSS THE STATE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS LARGER NOTION, THE
00:46:17AMERICAN DREAM, AND HOW WE ALL MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IT, WE
00:46:20HAVE GOT TO TURN AROUND THIS SPENDING TRAIN WRECK, IF YOU
00:46:23WILL, IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT MY RECORD ON THAT FRONT.
00:46:27>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LYNCH. YOUR POSITION ON THIS ISSUE OF MEDICAID EXPANSION.
00:46:31>> YES. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OLD CITIZENS IN
00:46:35THIS COUNTRY IN THE GOLDEN YEARS OF THEIR LIFE. BUT WE'VE GOT TO
00:46:39INVESTIGATE AND ANALYZE WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY >> WITH MEDICAID AND FIND THE
00:46:42WASTE, ABUSE, AND FRAUD WITH.
00:46:45>> IN THAT INDUSTRY. ALSO, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO LET THINGS GO
00:46:48ON AND NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE TO KEEP IT ACCOUNTABLE.
00:46:51WE HAVE TO INSPECT IT AND REQUIRE INSPECTIONS TO BE DONE.
00:46:55INSTEAD OF FINDING OUT ALL THE FRAUD LIKE WE'VE HEARD IN THE
00:46:57COUNTRY WITH ALL THESE OTHER
00:47:02ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS, AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY FOR OUR SENIOR
00:47:04CITIZENS ON, ON THE ISSUE, I
00:47:06WANT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MR. FREY SAID AND REBUT
00:47:10BACK TO THAT. IN 42 YEARS AGO, I
00:47:13CAME TO THE END OF MYSELF. I WAS BROKEN IN EVERY WAY,
00:47:17SPIRITUALLY, FINANCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY, EVERY WAY. I CAME
00:47:20TO THE END OF A DRUG ADDICTION ISSUE. AND SINCE THEN, I MET MY
00:47:25WIFE IN A RECOVERY PROGRAM. WE HAVE COUNSELED THOUSANDS OF
00:47:28ADDICTS OUT OF THE LIVES OF ADDICTION INTO FREEDOM IN
00:47:31CHRIST. SO THERE'S NO WAY, NO
00:47:36WAY THAT I'M FOR LEGALIZING MARIJUANA AND COCAINE. THAT CAME FROM THE LINDSEY GRAHAM CAMP
00:47:40BACK THEN. THAT WAS AN ATTACK. IT WAS LIES. THAT'S HOW THEY DO
00:47:43THESE THINGS, BECAUSE I'M A SERIOUS CANDIDATE AND THEY TRY
00:47:45TO PUSH ME DOWN. AND THEY SPENT
00:47:49OVER $50 MILLION DOING THAT. AND MR. NORMAN CALLS THIS AS
00:47:53FOOLISH. IN 2021, HE DID VOTE
00:47:54FOR THE ALLIES ACT THAT ALLOWED
00:47:588000 ILLEGAL AFGHAN IMMIGRANTS COMING TO HERE AFTER AN
00:48:02EMBARRASSING EVACUATION OUT OF. AND YOUR TIME. >> HAS EXPIRED. MR. FREY, YOUR
00:48:05POSITION ON THIS ISSUE OF MEDICAID EXPANSION AND YOUR
00:48:09CLOSING ARGUMENT TO VOTERS. >> REAL QUICK, I THINK SOUTH CAROLINA IS DOING THE FISCALLY PRUDENT THING, WHICH IS NOT TO
00:48:13EXPAND MEDICAID, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THAT JOURNEY, THAT'S GOING TO COST THE STATE FAR
00:48:17MORE. AND STATES ARE FEELING THE PINCH OF THAT ALREADY, BECAUSE
00:48:20THEY DECIDED TO DO THAT. LOOK, THE UNITED STATES SENATE IS NO
00:48:24PLACE FOR ON THE JOB TRAINING, AND IT'S NO PLACE FOR FOR GOING
00:48:27UP AND VOTING NO. AND THINKING
00:48:31THAT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. THE OLD WAYS OF THE SENATE ARE BROKEN. WE HAVE TO
00:48:34CHANGE THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE DONE. SOUTH CAROLINA DESERVES A
00:48:38FIGHTER AS ITS NEXT U.S.
00:48:39SENATOR, SOMEBODY WHO WILL STAND ALONGSIDE PRESIDENT TRUMP. I'M
00:48:43THE ONLY ONE ON THIS STAGE WITH
00:48:44A RECORD OF PASSING LEGISLATION
00:48:47IN FURTHERANCE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA. MY MISSION IS
00:48:50CLEAR. IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, WE NEED TO KEEP MEN OUT
00:48:52OF WOMEN'S SPORTS, PASS THE SAVE AMERICA ACT, INCREASE
00:48:56ENERGY PRODUCTION, PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE UNBORN, PROTECT
00:49:00YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
00:49:01AND PUT MORE MONEY BACK IN YOUR
00:49:04POCKET. YOU CAN ELECT A POLITICIAN TO GO UP TO
00:49:08WASHINGTON AND PUSH. YES OR NO AND COLLECT A PAYCHECK. OR YOU
00:49:11CAN ELECT SOMEBODY WHO IS BATTLE
00:49:13TESTED AND GETTING RESULTS FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE. I
00:49:16DIDN'T INHERIT A RECORD. I
00:49:19EARNED IT. AN A RECORD IS NOT A
00:49:22FINISH LINE. IT IS A STARTING POINT. YOU KNOW, MY SON JAMES,
00:49:26IS NINE YEARS OLD, AND MY WIFE AND I OFTEN WONDER, IS THIS
00:49:29GOING TO BE THE FIRST GENERATION THAT HANDS THIS COUNTRY OFF
00:49:33WORSE THAN THEY FOUND IT? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK OUR
00:49:36OPPORTUNITY IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S ABOUT SENDING A FIGHTER,
00:49:40SOMEBODY COMMITTED TO THE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA, TO WASHINGTON, TO FIGHT FOR YOU.
00:49:43>> AND MRS. GRAHAM, DO YOU SEE ANY VALUE IN TERMS OF EXPANDING
00:49:47MEDICAID TO PROVIDE MORE COVERAGE FOR WORKING ADULTS? AND YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT TO
00:49:50VOTERS? I CAUTION AGAINST EXPANDING MEDICAID, BECAUSE
00:49:54THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TAXES.
00:49:56UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS I'M DIFFERENT FROM MOST
00:50:00POLITICIANS. OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT
00:50:01A POLITICIAN. I NEVER SAW MYSELF
00:50:05BEING A POLITICIAN. WE ALL KNOW WHY I'M HERE. I ACTUALLY THINK
00:50:07IT'S PART OF GOD'S PLAN. UH, I
00:50:10KNOW MOST OF THESE GUYS HAVE 30 OR 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE COMBINED.
00:50:14AND AGAIN, I'M NOT A POLITICIAN. I'M NOT A
00:50:17MILLIONAIRE. I UNDERSTAND THE
00:50:19AVERAGE STRUGGLES OF THE AMERICAN FAMILY. I AM PRO-LIFE,
00:50:23I DON'T BELIEVE IN BOYS AND
00:50:25MEN'S, UH, GIRLS SPORTS. I
00:50:28DON'T BELIEVE THEY BELONG IN THE LOCKER ROOMS. I THINK
00:50:31THAT'S JUST DANGEROUS. I BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE SECOND
00:50:35AMENDMENT, AND I'M A BARGAIN SHOPPER BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE.
00:50:39AND I'LL DO ANYTHING IT TAKES TO HELP PASS THE SAVE AMERICA
00:50:42ACT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THAT
00:50:44IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I
00:50:47CAN REBUT, BUT MR. LYNCH MENTIONED LINDSEY GRAHAM
00:50:50MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I DON'T
00:50:52KNOW IF HE'S JUST AFRAID LINDSEY BEAT HIM, AND NOW HIS LITTLE SISTER IS GOING TO BEAT
00:50:56HIM. BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE HEARING THAT. >> AND, MR. NORMAN, THE FLOOR IS
00:51:00YOURS ON MEDICAID EXPANSION, AND YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT.
00:51:04>> NOT AGREEING ON MEDICAID EXPANSION. WE'VE GOT SO MUCH WASTE, FRAUD, AND ABUSE. AND,
00:51:07YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE ON OUR SOCIAL SECURITY, A HOST
00:51:10OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH FROM
00:51:14SPENDING STANDPOINT. LOOK, WE'VE
00:51:17GOT A SPIRITUAL PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE HEART AND SOUL
00:51:19TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY. UH, ALL OF THESE, THESE AREN'T OUR ENEMIES
00:51:23THAT I'M STANDING WITH TODAY. IT'S THE RADICAL DEMOCRATS WHO
00:51:26HAVE GOT TO BEAT. I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN TAKE ON THE
00:51:30DEMOCRATS IN NOVEMBER. I'VE GOT
00:51:32A SOLID 40 YEAR BUSINESS CAREER.
00:51:35I'VE GOT A CONSERVATIVE RECORD THAT IS SECOND TO NONE BY ANY
00:51:39RATING AGENCY. I'VE GOT THE
00:51:41COURAGE, AS I HAD TO STAND UP WHEN THE FRONT LINE DOCTORS. I
00:51:45STOOD HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AS
00:51:47TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. NOW I WILL GO IN THE SENATE. UH, AND I
00:51:50WILL WAKE THEM UP. I WILL STAND
00:51:53UP, AND I WILL SPEAK UP, BECAUSE IT CAN'T KEEP GOING. LIKE IT'S
00:51:57GOING, UH, AND I WILL TELL YOU,
00:52:01MILQUETOAST MODERATES, UH, WILL
00:52:02NOT, UH, WILL NOT MAKE IT TO GET
00:52:06THIS COUNTRY BACK. WHAT WE NEED. I'M TIRED OF MODERATES. I'M TIRED OF THOSE WHO SMILE AND
00:52:10KEEP SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER
00:52:13AGAIN. LOOK AT MY RECORD. YOU'VE
00:52:14SEEN ME FIGHT. YOU'VE SEEN ME.
00:52:18WHAT I DO WHEN I'VE TAKEN THE TOUGH VOTES, WHICH I WILL TAKE. NOBODY ELSE ON THIS STAGE CAN
00:52:22SAY THAT. BUT OUR REAL PROBLEM IS THE DEMOCRATS, WHO WE HAVE TO
00:52:26STOP. AND I WILL DO THAT IN NOVEMBER.
00:52:28>> ALL RIGHT. CANDIDATES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WANT TO THANK OUR PANELISTS AS WELL. WE
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00:55:01CHANGED AMERICA. >> JOHN A JENKINS HAS BEEN A JOURNALIST MOST OF HIS LIFE. IN
00:55:04THE CITY OF HIS BIRTH, WASHINGTON, D.C. HE SAYS HE'S
00:55:08NEVER KNOWN ANOTHER SUMMER LIKE
00:55:10THE 155 YEARS AGO. HIS BOOK, WITH THE TITLE OF SUMMER OF 715
00:55:14MONTHS, THAT CHANGED AMERICA. IN
00:55:16ORDER TO TELL THE STORY, FOCUSES
00:55:20ON WELL-KNOWN NAMES FROM THAT ERA, NOTABLY DANIEL ELLSBERG,
00:55:23NEIL SHEEHAN, HENRY KISSINGER,
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00:55:30EACH MAIN CHARACTER HAS AN IMPORTANT BACKSTORY THAT SETS
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00:55:39DRAMA, THE PAIN, AND THE HOPE OF
00:55:43A SUMMER WHEN AMERICA FACED SOME
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