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00:01:32>> THIS >> [MUSIC] >> IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
00:01:35>> A TOP OF THE MONDAY TO YOU, A BRAND NEW WEEK. A LOT TO TALK
00:01:39ABOUT TODAY. DONALD TRUMP REVIVES HERBERT HOOVER'S
00:01:43NIGHTMARE, AND CANADA IS FIGHTING BACK. MARC CARNEY IS NOT TAKING IT. I'LL TELL YOU
00:01:46ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
00:01:49ALSO, DEMOCRATS ERUPT AFTER HAKEEM JEFFRIES MEETS WITH JARED
00:01:52KUSHNER. WHAT'S UP WITH THIS? AND A CRAZY ALERT. NATALIE HARP
00:01:55DROPS A JANUARY 6th BOMB WITH
00:01:59150. PLUS STOP THE STEAL POSTS.
00:02:01WHOA. IN THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, CRAIG UNGER IS GOING TO
00:02:05DROP BY. HE'S WRITTEN THREE BOOKS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND
00:02:08RUSSIA. THIS IS ABOUT TRUMP'S
00:02:10PATRIOT BAIT AND SWITCH. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT
00:02:13FASCINATING. ALSO, GREG ABBOTT
00:02:16IS ATTACKING AIRPORT FRESHWATER FOOT WASHING STATIONS AND
00:02:19DEMANDING A DOJ PROBE. OH MY GOD. WE'RE ACCOMMODATING
00:02:22MUSLIMS. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. RIGHT. AND ALSO MAGA ATTACKS
00:02:26KELLY MUSGRAVES AFTER SHE STANDS UP FOR DEPORTED FAMILIES. THE
00:02:30THE, THE ARTISTS, THE SINGER IN
00:02:32THE THIRD HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM,
00:02:35FORMER BBC AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ROLLING STONE AND ALL KINDS OF,
00:02:37YOU KNOW, REPORTER GREG POWELL IS ONE OF THE BEST REPORTERS OUT
00:02:40THERE. UH, EXPOSES THE TRICKS THAT COULD STEAL YOUR VOTE FROM
00:02:44VOTER PURGES TO NEW SUPPRESSION TACTICS, AND IS ROLLING OUT A
00:02:48NEW WEBSITE, SAVE YOUR VOTE.ORG,
00:02:51THAT REVEALS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND GIVES AMERICANS A WAY TO
00:02:54FIGHT BACK. AND THE GOOD NEWS ALERT, TEXAS DROPS A POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE AS CONSERVATIVES
00:02:58START VOTING DEMOCRAT. WHOA,
00:03:01THAT'S PRETTY WILD STUFF. BUT MY OP ED TODAY ARE MY OPENING
00:03:05RANT HERE. MY DAILY TAKE IS PUBLISHED OVER AT HARTMANN
00:03:08REPORT.COM, AND IT'S TITLED TRUMP REVIVES HERBERT HOOVER'S
00:03:12NIGHTMARE, AND CANADA FIGHTS
00:03:13BACK. AND, YOU KNOW, LATE FRIDAY
00:03:17NIGHT, THESE TRADE TALKS THAT WERE GOING ON BETWEEN CANADA AND
00:03:19THE UNITED STATES JUST BASICALLY
00:03:22COLLAPSED. AND, UH, MARK CARNEY,
00:03:24WHO WAS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE BANK OF CANADA AND THE BANK
00:03:28OF ENGLAND, THIS GUY IS
00:03:31LITERALLY ONE OF THE WORLD'S TOP
00:03:34ECONOMISTS. UH, HE JUST
00:03:35BASICALLY SAID, I'M TIRED OF TRUMP BULLYING CANADA, BULLYING
00:03:39OUR COUNTRY. ACTUALLY, WHAT HE SAID WAS WE WERE ATTACKED WHEN HE WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHY DID
00:03:43YOU GUYS PULL OUT OF THE TRADE DEALS? HE SAYS, BECAUSE WE WERE ATTACKED. THOSE WERE HIS EXACT
00:03:47WORDS. UH, CANADIAN REPORTER
00:03:49DEAN BLUNDELL DOCUMENTS EXACTLY
00:03:52WHAT TRUMP WAS DEMANDING OF
00:03:53CANADA. WE WERE DEMANDING CONTROL OVER WHAT COUNTRIES
00:03:57CANADA TRADES WITH. WE WERE DEMANDING CONTROL OVER CANADA'S
00:04:01USE OF THE FRENCH LANGUAGE. WE WERE DEMANDING CONTROL OVER
00:04:03CANADIAN MADE CARS. WE WERE
00:04:06DEMANDING CONTROL OVER WHAT GOODS THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT
00:04:09BUYS FOR ITS OWN USE, AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WE WERE
00:04:12DEMANDING THE ABILITY TO REIMPOSE TARIFFS AGAINST CANADA.
00:04:15ANYTIME TRUMP GETS OFF AND JUST
00:04:18DECIDES TO DO IT. AND, YOU KNOW,
00:04:19AT MIDNIGHT, CARNEY SAID NO. AND
00:04:22SO, IN RETALIATION FOR CARNEY SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY
00:04:26THIS GAME, TRUMP IMPOSED A 50%
00:04:29TARIFF ON CANADIAN GOODS. NOW,
00:04:32THERE'S A CAVEAT TO THAT IN WASHINGTON, D.C.. OF COURSE, YOU
00:04:36KNOW, EVER SINCE, YOU KNOW, FIVE CORRUPT REPUBLICANS ON THE
00:04:39SUPREME COURT SAID IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR BUSINESSES
00:04:42AND BILLIONAIRES TO BUY
00:04:44POLITICIANS. D.C. HAS JUST
00:04:47BECOME INFESTED WITH LOBBYISTS WHO PASS OUT ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF
00:04:51MONEY. UM, AND SO THE, THE, THE
00:04:55INDUSTRIES OR THE GOODS FROM CANADA THAT ARE TYPICALLY
00:04:58IMPORTED FROM CANADA TO THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE STRONG
00:05:02LOBBYING FACTIONS IN D.C. WERE ALL EXCLUDED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
00:05:05THE GOP WANTS THAT MONEY. SO WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH ARE THE
00:05:09SMALLER ONES, THE ONES EITHER WHERE THE LOBBYISTS ARE FINE WITH TARIFFS, YOU KNOW, LIKE
00:05:13CARS, OR THE ONES WHERE THE LOBBYISTS JUST DON'T CARE, YOU
00:05:16KNOW, LIKE, UH, PLYWOOD OR FURNITURE OR CLOTHING OR FISHING
00:05:20RODS OR SWIMMING POOLS OR HOCKEY
00:05:22STICKS. SO THOSE ARE NOT GOING
00:05:24TO BE TARIFFED BY TRUMP. AND
00:05:28THIS IS WILD. I MEAN, LAST YEAR,
00:05:34DONALD TRUMP ACTUALLY WAS THE LAST YEAR OF BIDEN'S PRESIDENCY. I WAS TWO YEARS AGO, DONALD
00:05:38TRUMP SAID, WE HAVE A HE WAS GIVEN US HE WAS TALKING TO LOU
00:05:41DOBBS. HE SAYS, WE HAVE AN ECONOMY THAT'S SO FRAGILE. AND WHEN THERE'S A CRASH. AND I
00:05:45HOPE IT'S GOING TO BE DURING NEXT 12 MONTHS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE HERBERT HOOVER. I
00:05:48KEEP IN MIND, THIS WAS WHEN BIDEN WAS PRESIDENT. HE SAID, I DON'T WANT TO BE, I GUESS, THREE YEARS. HE SAID, I DON'T
00:05:52WANT TO BE. HERBERT HOOVER, THE ONE PRESIDENT. I JUST DON'T WANT
00:05:55TO BE IS HERBERT HOOVER. WELL,
00:05:58SAY HELLO TO DONALD HERBERT
00:06:00HOOVER. TRUMP, THE PROVISION UNDER WHICH TRUMP IS OPPOSING
00:06:03THESE, IMPOSING THESE 50%
00:06:05TARIFFS IS SMOOT-HAWLEY. NOW,
00:06:07MOST AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SMOOT-HAWLEY IS. THEY JUST KNOW
00:06:11IT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN WIDELY
00:06:14PANNED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND
00:06:18YEARS. AND, UH, BASICALLY
00:06:21SMOOT-HAWLEY. AND THAT'S WHY THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T REFER TO
00:06:24IT AS SMOOT-HAWLEY. THEY CALL IT
00:06:26THE 1935 OR THE 1930 TARIFF ACT,
00:06:28THE TARIFF ACT OF 1930. WHEN IT
00:06:33WAS PASSED THAT YEAR, CONGRESS PASSED IT. IT WAS A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS. THEY PASSED
00:06:37IT. HERBERT HOOVER WAS PRESIDENT
00:06:38IN 1930, AND 1028. TOP AMERICAN
00:06:43ECONOMISTS SIGNED A PUBLIC PETITION BEGGING HOOVER NOT TO NOT TO SIGN THIS THING. BUT
00:06:47HOOVER CAME TO HIS PARTY AND,
00:06:50AND, UH, THE FIRST NATION TO
00:06:51RETALIATE. IN 1930 WAS CANADA.
00:06:56THEY HIT 16 CATEGORIES OF AMERICAN GOODS THAT MADE UP 30%
00:06:58OF ALL OUR EXPORTS AS A RESULT
00:07:00OF SMOOT-HAWLEY, IN LARGE PART,
00:07:03TRADE AROUND THE WORLD COLLAPSED
00:07:07BY FULLY TWO THIRDS BETWEEN 1929 AND 1934, AND A THIRD OF AMERICA ENDED UP UNEMPLOYED. WE REFER TO
00:07:11THAT NOW AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT MOST OF HISTORY AS
00:07:14THE REPUBLICAN GREAT DEPRESSION.
00:07:16AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE SUPREME
00:07:19COURT POINTED OUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, UNDER THE
00:07:22CONSTITUTION, ONLY CONGRESS HAS TARIFF AUTHORITY, CAN CAN IMPOSE
00:07:26TARIFFS. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN ARTICLE ONE, SECTION EIGHT. UM,
00:07:29MAYBE IT'S SECTION SEVEN. UH,
00:07:33THE, THE TRUMP PEOPLE STARTED
00:07:34LOOKING FOR TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN CONGRESS HAD GIVEN THE
00:07:38PRESIDENT TARIFF AUTHORITY, AND
00:07:40THE ONLY ONE THEY COULD FIND WAS SMOOT-HAWLEY. AND IT'S SOMETHING
00:07:43CALLED SECTION 338, SECTION 338.
00:07:47YOU KNOW, IF, IF NORMAL TARIFF WORK IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HAMMER
00:07:51TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FORM A
00:07:56POLICY OR FIX TRADE DISPUTES. SECTION 338 IS A NUCLEAR WEAPON.
00:07:59IT SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT, ON
00:08:01HIS OWN, NO CONGRESSIONAL
00:08:04FINDINGS, NO COMMITTEES OR, YOU
00:08:06KNOW, GROUPS WITHIN THE WHITE
00:08:08HOUSE OR EVEN AGENCIES WITHIN
00:08:11THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NOBODY EXCEPT THE THE PRESIDENT HAS TO
00:08:14DECLARE THAT A COUNTRY IS, QUOTE, DISCRIMINATING AGAINST
00:08:16THE UNITED STATES. AND 30 DAYS
00:08:18LATER, HE CAN IMPOSE 50%
00:08:20TARIFFS, AND HE CAN EVEN ORDER THEIR GOODS IN THE UNITED STATES
00:08:23TO BE SHIPPED BACK TO THE
00:08:25COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. THAT'S THE
00:08:27PROVISION THAT TRUMP IS USING.
00:08:31SECTION 338. AND THE WORD DISCRIMINATION IS NOT DEFINED IN
00:08:34THE LAW. SO IT BASICALLY NOW MEANS WHATEVER TRUMP WANTS IT TO
00:08:38MEAN. NOW NO PRESIDENT, SINCE
00:08:43HERBERT HOOVER HAS BEEN STUPID ENOUGH TO USE THIS. I MEAN, BACK
00:08:46IN 1935, FDR WAS PRESIDENT, AND
00:08:50HIS TARIFF COMMISSION, UH, FOUND THAT GERMANY AND AUSTRALIA WERE
00:08:54DISCRIMINATING, USING THAT WORD AGAINST AMERICAN GOODS. AND FDR
00:08:56WAS LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO
00:08:59INVOKE SECTION 338. UM, THERE WAS A RECORD IN THE STATE
00:09:03DEPARTMENT OF DISCUSSION USING IT AGAINST THE JAPANESE JUST
00:09:06BEFORE WORLD WAR TWO, WE DECIDED
00:09:08NOT TO. THERE WAS A 1949
00:09:10TELEGRAM FROM DEAN ACHESON SAYING, MAYBE WE SHOULD USE THIS
00:09:14AGAINST CHINA, BUT AGAIN, WE
00:09:16DIDN'T. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS,
00:09:20NOBODY IN GOVERNMENT HAS EVER THOUGHT TO USE THIS. NOW, LET'S
00:09:24BE CLEAR. I, YOU KNOW, I WROTE A BOOK, THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF
00:09:27NEOLIBERALISM HOW REAGANISM
00:09:29GUTTED AMERICA, AND, AND LAID
00:09:33OUT HOW ALEXANDER HAMILTON, IN
00:09:35HIS REPORT ON AMERICAN
00:09:37MANUFACTURERS IN 1790, LAID OUT
00:09:39FOR PRESIDENT WASHINGTON HOW TARIFFS SHOULD BE DONE. AND HE
00:09:42MADE IT VERY CLEAR TARIFFS NEED TO BE PASSED BY CONGRESS. THAT'S WHY IT'S THAT WAY IN
00:09:46THE CONSTITUTION, BECAUSE NO BUSINESS PERSON IS GOING TO
00:09:50BUILD A FACTORY BASED ON THE WHIM OF A PRESIDENT. THEY WANT
00:09:53TO KNOW THAT THAT TARIFF IS GOING TO BE THERE FOR 20 YEARS,
00:09:55SO THAT THEY CAN RECOVER THE COST OF BUILDING THEIR FACTORY
00:09:59AND HIRING PEOPLE AND MAKING
00:10:00MACHINERY AND THINGS. SO TARIFFS
00:10:04ARE GOOD THINGS, GENERALLY SPEAKING. BUT DONALD TRUMP HAS
00:10:07NOT ASKED CONGRESS TO IMPOSE TARIFFS ON ANYBODY, LIKE EVERY
00:10:11OTHER PREVIOUS PRESIDENT HAS. INSTEAD, HE'S IMPOSING THEM
00:10:14HIMSELF. AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, HE'S DOING IT TO GET STUFF FOR HIMSELF. YOU KNOW, HE THREW
00:10:18A TARIFF ON APPLE PRODUCTS. AND TIM, TIM COOK COMES TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITH A BIG BAR OF GOLD AND
00:10:22GIVES IT TO DONALD TRUMP. AND TRUMP SAYS, OKAY, NO MORE
00:10:24TARIFFS. HE THREW TARIFFS ON ON
00:10:27UAE. AND THEY COME TO AND THEY PUT $500 MILLION INTO HIS CRYPTO
00:10:31COMPANY, WHICH GOES STRAIGHT INTO DONALD'S POCKET, A HALF $1
00:10:34BILLION. AND HE GOES, OKAY, NO MORE TARIFFS ON THEM. IN FACT,
00:10:37WE'LL SELL YOU SOME NVIDIA CHIPS THAT WERE BANNED FROM
00:10:40SELLING YOU UNDER U.S. LAW BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MUTUAL TRADE
00:10:44AGREEMENT WITH CHINA, WHICH MEANS THESE CHIPS ARE GOING TO END UP IN CHINA, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. BUT HEY,
00:10:47WE'LL DO IT BECAUSE YOU GAVE MY
00:10:49FAMILY A HALF $1 BILLION. SO
00:10:53HERE WE ARE. WE'VE GOT THIS ABSOLUTE MESS. THE ASSOCIATED
00:10:56PRESS. YOU KNOW, LAYING IT OUT.
00:10:59UH, THIS IS, THIS IS A, AN
00:11:03ABSOLUTE MESS. NOW, HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE INTRODUCED A
00:11:06PIECE OF LEGISLATION CALLED THE REPEALING OUTDATED AND UNILATERAL TARIFF AUTHORITIES
00:11:10ACT, AND IT WOULD STRIP OUT
00:11:12SECTION 338 FROM OUR LAW. AND IF
00:11:15YOU'RE INCLINED TO THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, YOU KNOW,
00:11:18LET'S GO BACK TO ONLY CONGRESS
00:11:20BEING ABLE TO DECLARE TARIFFS.
00:11:23GIVE CONGRESS A CALL AT 2022243121. YOU'VE GOT A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE, AND YOU'VE GOT
00:11:27TWO SENATORS. LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU THINK, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE
00:11:31REPUBLICANS. IN 87, RONALD REAGAN GAVE A RADIO SPEECH
00:11:35TALKING ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS TARIFFS ARE AND HOW CAREFULLY THEY HAVE TO BE APPLIED, AND HOW
00:11:38ONLY CONGRESS SHOULD DO IT. WHEN
00:11:42DOUG FORD >> [MUSIC] >> UP IN CANADA TURNED THAT INTO
00:11:44AN AD, TRUMP GOT SO OFF, HE SLAPPED AN ADDITIONAL 10% TARIFF
00:11:47ON CANADA. REMEMBER, IT'S TIME
00:11:50TO ECHO RONALD REAGAN TO YOUR REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
00:11:54>> [MUSIC] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. >> 16 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
00:11:58BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF A HEAR ME?
00:12:01>> I DO. WHAT'S UP? RUBEN?
00:12:03>> OKAY, OKAY. DISCUSS TWO
00:12:06ISSUES OF THE GREAT THING THAT
00:12:09THE U.S. DID IRAN DURING WORLD
00:12:12WAR TWO. IRAN
00:12:30REFUSED, AND IT WAS BY THE FORCE OF THE U.S. THAT FORCED THEM TO
00:12:34LEAVE OUR TERRITORY, THE IRANIAN
00:12:38TERRITORY. TOTALITY OF IRAN. THE
00:12:45SECOND WAS
00:13:01THE BOOKS. >> AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WHEN MOSADDEGH WAS ELECTED, WHEN IRAN
00:13:05WAS ACTUALLY A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY, AND MOSADDEQ WAS
00:13:09ELECTED IN, WHAT WAS IT, 1944,
00:13:12HE, UH, HE SAID, THAT'S IT. WE'RE NATIONALIZING OUR OIL. 53
00:13:15WAS 53. THANK YOU. WELL, AND AND
00:13:19THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE OVERTHREW MOSSADEGH AND INSTALLED THE SHAH
00:13:21WAS IT WAS TO BENEFIT THE OIL
00:13:24COMPANIES
00:13:35>> HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
00:13:37DOLLARS, THE SAME AS MARSHALL
00:13:51THE HISTORY ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
00:13:54>> GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD,
00:13:58RUBEN. THAT'S WHY YOU CALLED,
00:13:58OR IS THERE A THERE FOR.
00:14:04>> AND UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF IRANIANS DON'T KNOW IT.
00:14:08>> YEAH. NO, YOU'RE IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. RUBEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, RICK IN
00:14:11HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA. RICK, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HEY, TOM. FIRST THING IS YOU
00:14:15START OUT WITH THE ISSUE IS
00:14:19ABOUT THE CANADIAN TRADE WAR.
00:14:20YEAH. IF I'VE DONE INTERNATIONAL TRADE FOR MUCH,
00:14:24MANY MORE YEARS THAN I'D LIKE TO
00:14:27ADMIT. UM, AND THE ONE THING IS
00:14:29WE ARE KICKING THEIR BUTTS A
00:14:33LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL GAME, THE MERCY RULE WOULD HAVE BEEN
00:14:36IMPOSED. YOU SEE, IN 2024.
00:14:39>> YOU MEAN WE'RE KICKING THE BUTTS OF AVERAGE AMERICAN CONSUMERS WITH ALL THESE TARIFFS?
00:14:43>> WE'RE KICKING THE BUTTS OF CANADA. >> OH, REALLY?
00:14:47>> TRADE. >> YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO HURT CANADA. THIS TARIFF STUFF.
00:14:51>> IT'S REALLY, REALLY SIMPLE.
00:14:54IN 2024 THERE WAS $920 BILLION
00:14:58OF TRADE BETWEEN THE UNITED
00:14:59STATES AND CANADA. SOLD THEM
00:15:03$440 BILLION WORTH OF STUFF.
00:15:04THEY SOLD US $480 BILLION WORTH
00:15:07OF STUFF. NOW, TRUMP SAYS, THAT'S A $40 BILLION TRADE
00:15:11DEFICIT, AND THEY'RE CHEATING.
00:15:13NOW, WE HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME,
00:15:17UM, PER CAPITA INCOMES AS CANADA
00:15:21DOES. HOWEVER, WE HAVE 340
00:15:24MILLION PEOPLE, AND THEY'VE GOT 40 MILLION PEOPLE.
00:15:28>> YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I GET YOUR POINT HERE, RICK, BUT OKAY.
00:15:32I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AN AWFUL LOT OF THAT IMPORT, BY THE WAY, IS
00:15:35OIL IT'S I MEAN, WE'RE TAKING THOSE TAR SANDS OILS AND, AND
00:15:39BRINGING THEM DOWN TO TEXAS TO REFINE THEM AND THEN SHIPPING THE REFINED PRODUCTS OFFSHORE.
00:15:42WE KEEP THE, WE KEEP THE POISON
00:15:46>> A FEW WEEKS AGO. BUT IT WAS REPORTED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES
00:15:50OVER THE WEEKEND THAT HAKEEM JEFFRIES, THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE OF
00:15:53REPRESENTATIVES, AND JARED
00:15:56KUSHNER, WHO HOLDS NO OFFICIAL TITLE SO THAT HE CAN. SO THAT
00:15:59THERE CAN BE NO OVERSIGHT OF
00:16:01WHAT HE DOES. BASICALLY, IT'S,
00:16:05UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ONE OF TRUMP'S WAYS OF GETTING AROUND
00:16:07THE REQUIREMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL SECURITY CLEARANCES.
00:16:11AND, AND, UH, CONFLICT OF
00:16:15INTEREST CONCERNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS A GUY WHO
00:16:18HAS TAKEN LITERALLY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON BEHALF OF THE TRUMP
00:16:22FAMILY AND HIMSELF FROM THESE
00:16:25FOREIGN OLIGARCHS WITH WHOM HE IS NEGOTIATING. IT DOESN'T GET
00:16:28MORE CORRUPT THAN THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE CORRUPT BEYOND. SO
00:16:31ANYHOW, THE TWO OF THEM GOT
00:16:33TOGETHER. AND, YOU KNOW, THE
00:16:36SPECULATION IS THAT YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS, LOOK AT HOW TRUMP IS
00:16:40IN THE TOILET. NATIONWIDE, POLLING WISE, AND THE
00:16:43SPECULATION IS THAT THEY'VE THAT KUSHNER HAS FIGURED OUT THAT
00:16:47HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DEMOCRATS, AND HE'S TRYING
00:16:49TO GET AHEAD OF IT. AND KUSHNER
00:16:52HIMSELF, OF COURSE, BEING NOW AN
00:16:55OLIGARCH. AND WE'VE GOT KIND OF OLIGARCHIC CAPTURE OF OUR
00:16:58GOVERNMENT TRYING TO EXTEND THAT
00:17:01TO HAKEEM JEFFRIES, WHO, BIZARRELY, LAST WEEK ON, I
00:17:04BELIEVE IT WAS FACE THE NATION,
00:17:05SAID, I'M OPPOSED TO MEDICARE
00:17:08FOR ALL. SO, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, EMBRACING THE OLIGARCHS FROM THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY.
00:17:12IT'S A TOUGH ONE. IT'S A TOUGH
00:17:16ONE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
00:17:18REALLY OFF ABOUT THIS. A LOT OF
00:17:20DEMOCRATS ARE VERY OFF AT HAKEEM
00:17:24JEFFRIES. UH, YOU KNOW, IN FACT,
00:17:26THIS, I THINK, UH, TOMMY, TOMMY
00:17:29VIETOR, WHO WAS A FORMER AIDE TO
00:17:31BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE'S ON THE POD. SAVE AMERICA
00:17:34GROUP. HE SAYS JARED KUSHNER HAS NO ACTUAL GOVERNMENT JOB. HE
00:17:37JUST USES HIS FAMILY CONNECTIONS
00:17:39TO GET MONEY FROM GULF AUTOCRATS
00:17:41AND FUND CORRUPT DEALS. THE ONLY WAY JEFFREY SHOULD WORK WITH HIM
00:17:45IS IN DEMANDS FOR DOCUMENTS AND
00:17:48SUBPOENAS. AND I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH THAT. THAT THE
00:17:51AMERICAN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I
00:17:53THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, FRANKLY, DONALD TRUMP GOT
00:17:56ELECTED IN 2016 AND AND ARGUABLY
00:17:58AGAIN, IN 2024, IS THAT PEOPLE
00:18:03IN AMERICA WANT FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE. THEY KNOW THAT, YOU
00:18:05KNOW, FROM, FROM THE 30s UNTIL THE 80s, WE BUILT THE FIRST
00:18:09MIDDLE CLASS. THAT WAS MORE THAN
00:18:11HALF OF A COUNTRY. TWO THIRDS OF US WERE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS.
00:18:14WHEN REAGAN CAME INTO OFFICE. TODAY, IT'S ONLY 41% OF US. WE
00:18:18COULD GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS. BACK IN 1980 WITH A SINGLE
00:18:21PAYCHECK. TODAY, IT TAKES TWO
00:18:24PAYCHECKS. REAGANOMICS, 45 YEARS
00:18:27OF NEOLIBERAL REAGANOMICS THAT HAS BEEN EMBRACED BY BOTH
00:18:29PARTIES, FRANKLY, HAS JUST SCREWED THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. AND
00:18:32EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. AND THEY WANT CHANGE. AND TRUMP PROMISED CHANGE. AND HILLARY CLINTON
00:18:36CAMPAIGNED ON. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP EVERYTHING KIND OF GOING
00:18:39THE WAY IT IS. AND, YOU KNOW,
00:18:41SURPRISE, SURPRISE. AND I REALLY
00:18:44THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THIS OUTRAGE AGAINST
00:18:48JEFFRIES, IS THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE
00:18:50WANT THIS ADMINISTRATION TAKEN TO TASK. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
00:18:53THEY'RE CORRUPT. THEY'RE
00:18:55SELF-DEALING. THEY'RE THEY'RE
00:18:58DOING DEALS CONSTANTLY TO, TO SATISFY THE INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW,
00:19:01LIKE THE TRUMP SAID, THE OIL INDUSTRY GIVE ME $1 BILLION AND
00:19:04I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. WELL, HE'S DOING IT. HE'S PRETENDING THERE'S NO SUCH
00:19:08THING AS GLOBAL WARMING WHILE AMERICANS ARE DYING. HE'S KILLING OFF GREEN ENERGY
00:19:12PROJECTS. WHILE WE NEED MORE ENERGY. HE'S DOING IT ALL
00:19:14BECAUSE THEY GAVE HIM MONEY. SO.
00:19:17AND, YOU KNOW, JARED IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. SO I AGREE.
00:19:21DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE USING SUBPOENAS, NOT FRIENDLY
00:19:24CONVERSATIONS. SO WHAT SAY YOU? I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS ON THE
00:19:27OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK.
00:19:32>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
00:25:36THIS EVENING, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON. >> RACE GOING ON IN WASHINGTON,
00:25:40D.C., AS PART OF TRUMP'S
00:25:43PRIVATIZED FREEDOM 250, WHERE ALL THESE BIG CORPORATIONS GIVE
00:25:46MONEY TO THIS ORGANIZATION THAT THEN GIVES SOME OF THAT MONEY TO
00:25:49DONALD TRUMP. AND TRUMP WAS
00:25:52THERE WITH WITH MELANIA. AND
00:25:55SITTING BEHIND THEM WAS NATALIE AND TRUMP. AND MELANIA
00:25:58APPARENTLY GOT INTO A BIT OF A SPAT. THERE'S A LIP READER. YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE THING. IT'S
00:26:02OVER AT ROSS STORY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LAYS IT OUT. UM, NOT
00:26:06CERTAIN EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE ARGUING ABOUT, EXCEPT THAT MELANIA WAS LIKE, I'M OUT OF
00:26:10HERE. AND THEN AFTER MELANIA LEFT, NOT NATALIE COMES UP AND
00:26:13SITS DOWN. IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOD, IT'S GETTING WEIRDER BY THE
00:26:17DAY. AND NOW WE DISCOVER THAT
00:26:19BACK ON JANUARY 6th, 2021, THE
00:26:22DAY THAT TRUMP SENT A MOB AGAINST THE CAPITOL TO MURDER
00:26:25THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, AND THEY
00:26:28NEARLY SUCCEEDED TO OVERTURN AN
00:26:31ELECTION TO TO COMMIT A COUP, TO END DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED
00:26:35STATES. THAT ON THAT DAY,
00:26:36NATALIE HARP TWEETED, OVER 150
00:26:40TIMES, THINGS LIKE FIGHT FOR TRUMP IN ALL CAPS. SHE DID THAT
00:26:4312 TIMES IN ONE POST. UH, DC IS
00:26:47TRUMP COUNTRY. SHE WAS 29 YEARS
00:26:49OLD AT THE TIME. SHE PRAISED THE DEMONSTRATORS WHO WERE BEATING
00:26:52COPS TO THE POINT WHERE FIVE OF
00:26:54THEM ARE NOW DEAD. AS GREAT
00:26:58PATRIOTS, AND KEPT TWEETING,
00:26:59STOP THE STEAL. SHE WAS, UH,
00:27:02WHEN SHE WAS ON TV ON ONE AMERICA NEWS. SHE, WHEN SHE WAS
00:27:06A HOST, SHE, SHE INTERVIEWED KAROLINE LEAVITT, WHO WAS THEN A
00:27:09CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE. SHE'S NOW THE PRESS SECRETARY OF THE
00:27:12OUTGOING PRESS SECRETARY. AND,
00:27:15UH, SHE SAID THAT SHE JUST CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW,
00:27:18TRUMP WON THE ELECTION IN 2020. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. UH, HE WON
00:27:22IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. SHE SAID HE
00:27:25ACTUALLY LOST IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
00:27:27BY 7.4%. UH, THIS IS THIS IS
00:27:30WEIRD AND GETTING WEIRDER. SO
00:27:33WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? LET'S PICK UP SOME CALLS HERE. TONY IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK. HEY,
00:27:36TONY. WHAT'S UP?
00:27:40>> UH FRIDAY AT KNIGHT, THERE
00:27:42WAS A STUDY RELEASED THAT WARNED
00:27:46THAT THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES
00:27:52ARE TAKING GIFTS AND HAVE BEEN
00:27:53TAKING GIFTS FOR SOME TIME. NEIL
00:27:56GORSUCH WAS C-SPAN THIS PAST
00:27:58DAY. UH, AND TALKED ABOUT A BIT
00:28:02ABOUT THE CAMARADERIE OF THESE GROUPS. I TALKED ABOUT, UH,
00:28:06CLARENCE THOMAS SOME TIME AGO
00:28:07WITH YOU. REMEMBER? >> YES.
00:28:10>> WE HAD A CONVERSATION. ONE THING I FORGOT TO TELL YOU WAS
00:28:13THAT REASON THAT THOMAS IS IN
00:28:17THE POCKET OF, UH, OF TRUMP IS
00:28:20BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE, JENNY. MHM.
00:28:23JENNY WAS A HUGE PUBLIC AND
00:28:26OPERATIVE. SHE'S ALSO WHITE, BY
00:28:28THE WAY AND SHE WAS IN HIS FIRST
00:28:33TERM. SHE WAS A, A JOB IN THE
00:28:38ADMINISTRATION. AND OBVIOUSLY,
00:28:41THERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE
00:28:45CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE. >> RIGHT. AND BEFORE THAT, SHE WAS MAKING A COUPLE HUNDRED
00:28:47THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OVER HERITAGE FOUNDATION. AND THEN
00:28:50YOU HAD A RIGHT WING BILLIONAIRE FUNDING HER LITTLE GROUP. AND
00:28:53THIS WAS ALL WHILE HER HUSBAND WAS ON THE SUPREME COURT. THIS
00:28:56IS ALMOST AS BAD, OR ACTUALLY
00:29:00MAYBE WORSE, THAN JUSTICE
00:29:04ROBERTS WIFE TAKING $10 MILLION FROM BIG DC LAW FIRMS THAT DO
00:29:07BUSINESS WITH THE COURT. >> YEAH. MY SECOND POINT IS
00:29:11ABOUT REAGAN MAYBE YOU, YOU, YOU
00:29:15OVERLOOK THIS, BUT I'M SURE YOU
00:29:17DIDN'T. DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHEN
00:29:25UH, AND. GIVING CORPORATIONS THE
00:29:28ABILITY TO LEAVE THE UNITED
00:29:30STATES AND GIVING THEM ALL KINDS
00:29:33OF FAVOR TREAT. FAVORITE KIND OF TREATMENT?
00:29:36>> YEAH. REAGAN STARTED THE WHOLE NEOLIBERAL THING, WHICH WAS SO-CALLED FREE TRADE. I
00:29:40MEAN, IT DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT
00:29:41GOT SERIOUSLY CODIFIED WITH, UH,
00:29:46BY GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, WHO, UH, I MEAN, THEY STARTED
00:29:49THIS DURING THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION, BUT IT REALLY FINISHED UP DURING THE BUSH
00:29:53ADMINISTRATION CREATING THE NAFTA AGREEMENT, THE NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT. BUT PRIOR.
00:29:56>> TO THAT, THEY. >> HAD TRIED TO CUT TRIED TO CUT FREE TRADE DEALS ALL AROUND THE
00:30:00WORLD. YEAH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. >> YEAH. >> REMEMBER?
00:30:04>> REMEMBER >> YES. SHE TESTIFIED THAT CLARENCE THOMAS, WHEN HE WAS
00:30:08RUNNING THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY
00:30:12COMMISSION, OR WHATEVER IT IS, THE EEOC, UH, THAT HE WAS
00:30:15SEXUALLY HARASSING HER. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, SHE'S BEEN ON THIS
00:30:18PROGRAM, ACTUALLY. ANITA HILL.
00:30:20>> YEAH. WHAT HE SAID WAS,
00:30:23UNLESS YOU WERE WHITE AND HAD A
00:30:24COMPLAINT, NOBODY ELSE SHOULD
00:30:28MAKE A COMPLAINT. YEAH. HE, IN
00:30:30MY OPINION, HE WAS ANTI-BLACK AT
00:30:35THAT PARTICULAR TIME. >> THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN A FEW BLACK PEOPLE HAVE CALLED INTO THIS PROGRAM AND
00:30:38EXPRESSED A SIMILAR CONCERN, OR SENTIMENT. TONY, I DON'T KNOW
00:30:41WHAT TO MAKE OF IT. I'M YOU KNOW, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT
00:30:44THAT. TONY. THANKS FOR THE CALL. ALFREDO IN MOUNTAIN VIEW,
00:30:47CALIFORNIA. OTHER THAN THAT, HE'S VERY, VERY CORRUPT. UH,
00:30:50TOM? ALFREDO, WHAT'S ON YOUR
00:30:51MIND TODAY GOOD. WHAT'S UP?
00:30:57>> YEAH. SO, UH, REGARDING THE
00:31:03AGAINST CANADA AND CARNEY. UH, I
00:31:06THINK UH, THIS TARIFFS, UH,
00:31:13AGAINST THE U.S. ONGOING
00:31:33GUY IMPEACHED, POSSIBLY, IF WE WIN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. YOUR THOUGHTS?
00:31:36>> YEAH. I MEAN, IRAN IS CLEARLY PLAYING THAT GAME. THEY'VE COME RIGHT OUT AND SAID IT. YOU KNOW
00:31:40THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ SHUT
00:31:43UNTIL TRUMP LEAVES OFFICE. UH, YOU KNOW, REALIZING THAT THAT'S
00:31:47GOING TO DO ENORMOUS POLITICAL
00:31:49DAMAGE TO HIM. UH, I DON'T THINK
00:31:52THE CARNEY IS SITTING AROUND SAYING, HOW CAN I SCREW DONALD
00:31:54TRUMP? HE WAS BEING REACTIVE,
00:31:56NOT PROACTIVE. HE WAS RESPONDING
00:32:01TO TRUMP BASICALLY SAYING, CANADA IS GOING TO BE OUR 51st STATE. UH, AND WE'RE GOING TO
00:32:05START TREATING THEM LIKE THEY'RE A 51st STATE. I MEAN, THE DEMANDS THAT TRUMP MADE OF
00:32:08CANADA IN THAT TRADE NEGOTIATION WERE JUST OVER THE TOP. UM, I
00:32:12MEAN, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OVER THE TOP IF CANADA WAS
00:32:14MICHIGAN, BUT IT'S A SOVEREIGN
00:32:17NATION, YOU KNOW?
00:32:19>> YEAH. BUT TIME HE WAKES UP,
00:32:25EVERY DAY. UH, THINKING, WHAT
00:32:34, SEPTEMBER, I MEAN, OCTOBER IS
00:32:39CONTINUING THIS WAR. YEAH. AND
00:32:42POSSIBLY WE COULD GAIN IMPEACH
00:32:45THIS GUY. THAT WAS MY THING. >> ASSUMING HE DOESN'T, HE DOESN'T BLOW UP THE ELECTIONS.
00:32:48YEAH, I TOTALLY GET IT, ALFREDO. THANK YOU. WELL SAID. THANKS,
00:32:52TOM. SURE ENOUGH, SAM IN ATLANTA, WATCHING US ON C-SPAN.
00:32:56HEY, SAM, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? MY OLD STOMPING GROUNDS. WE USED
00:32:58TO LIVE IN ATLANTA.
00:33:00>> OH, YEAH. IT'S STILL ATLANTA.
00:33:04UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SEEING
00:33:05YOU. UH, UH, I DO LISTEN TO, UM.
00:33:10I DO WATCH C-SPAN PRETTY REGULARLY. GOT TWO QUESTIONS.
00:33:13UH, ONE OF THEM ABOUT JANUARY. HELLO? >> YEAH, I WAS JUST AGREEING
00:33:17WITH YOU. IT'S A GREAT NETWORK. BACK TO YOU, SAM.
00:33:19>> OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH. BUT I'D
00:33:25LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TARIFFS ALSO.
00:33:27I DON'T KNOW WHY NO ONE BRINGS
00:33:29UP THE FACT THAT THAT DAY THERE WERE TWO GROUPS OUT THERE. WHILE
00:33:32DONALD TRUMP HAD HIS GROUP AT
00:33:36ONE LOCATION, C-SPAN WAS SHOWING
00:33:40PEOPLE BREAKING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE OR WHEREVER THEY BROKE INTO. >> THE CAPITOL BUILDING.
00:33:43>> THE THING. MHM. OKAY. THEY
00:33:46HAD A DUAL SCREEN, ONE SCREEN SHOWED PEOPLE OUT THERE TALKING
00:33:50WITH DONALD TRUMP, THE OTHER SCREEN SHOWED PEOPLE BREAKING
00:33:54INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. >> YEAH. THOSE KNOW THE CAPITOL BUILDING. THOSE WERE THE KIND OF
00:33:58SHOCK TROOPS. THAT WAS THE THE PROUD BOYS. I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT WAS WHY TARRIO GOT
00:34:01CONVICTED OF SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY. THAT WAS THE
00:34:03CONSPIRACY. THEY WERE THERE
00:34:06BEFORE THE CROWD ARRIVED.
00:34:08>> YEAH TRUMP GET BLAMED FOR
00:34:11SENDING HIS GROUP DOWN THERE? BECAUSE I HEARD EVERYTHING HE SAID THAT DAY, AND HE WAS
00:34:14SAYING, GO DOWN PEACEFULLY. >> WELL, AND AND HE SAID, YOU
00:34:18GOT TO FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, OR YOU WON'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY
00:34:20LEFT. YOU WON'T
00:34:27>> THAT I AGREE WITH THAT, BECAUSE I WATCHED IT THAT DAY ALL THE WAY. YEAH. MY OTHER
00:34:31CONCERN WAS, HOW DO YOU BREAK
00:34:34INTO THE CAPITOL THAT LONG? AND NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS? HOW DO
00:34:38PEOPLE GET TO GO INTO THE HOLD
00:34:42PEOPLE HOSTAGE FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, AND ONLY ONE PERSON
00:34:46DIED >> THERE WERE, I BELIEVE THERE WERE FIVE PEOPLE WHO DIED THAT
00:34:50DAY. AND THERE WERE FIVE COPS. >> WHO DIED. >> AFTERWARDS.
00:34:55>> BREAKING INTO THE CAPITOL. IF THEY'RE BREAKING INTO THE
00:34:57CAPITOL, WHAT WHAT, FIVE, SIX
00:35:01HOURS? >> YEAH. NO, I THE CAPITOL POLICE WERE VERY RESTRAINED. I
00:35:05MEAN, THE ONLY SHOT, ONE PERSON, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOMAN, ASHLI
00:35:08BABBITT, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I
00:35:10GET THAT IT. >> WAS BREAKING IN. THEY HAD
00:35:13THEY HAD EQUIPMENT TO BREAK DOWN WALLS AND BREAK INTO.
00:35:17>> OH, I KNOW, AND THEY BROUGHT, AND THEY BROUGHT GUNS AND WEAPONS. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE
00:35:20GUYS, THEY, THEY, THEY WERE THERE TO, TO OVERTHROW OUR
00:35:23GOVERNMENT. SAM. AND THAT THAT'S A CRIME. AND SADLY,
00:35:26TRUMP HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, FORGIVEN THEM. HE'S PARDONED THEM, I THINK, BECAUSE HE WANTS
00:35:30THEM TO DO IT AGAIN. IT'S MY
00:35:32GUESS. SAM, THANKS A LOT FOR THE CALL. AND THANKS FOR WATCHING US
00:35:36ON C
00:35:40>> YES! >> YEAH. YOU'RE ON THE AIR, RALPH. WHAT'S UP? >> OH. HI, THERE.
00:35:43>> HEY. >> MY QUESTION >> WHAT WILL THE.
00:35:47>> BE THE YEARLY MAINTENANCE COST OF THE BALLROOM?
00:35:50>> OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
00:35:54I HAVE NO IDEA. WHY DO YOU ASK? WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE?
00:35:58>> IT MIGHT EVEN. IT MIGHT DWARF
00:36:01WHAT IT COST TO BUILD IT IN 20,
00:36:0330 YEARS. >> YEAH. THAT'S AN INTERESTING
00:36:07THOUGHT. UM, CERTAINLY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW,
00:36:10MAINTENANCE COSTS CAN BE FAIRLY HIGH. WHAT I FIND INTERESTING IS
00:36:13THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF, TRUMP WAS LIKE, WE NEED A BALLROOM. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD
00:36:17THIS BALLROOM. AND THEN HE WAS LIKE, AND THEN THE SUPREME
00:36:19COURT, OR THEN A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THE
00:36:23CONSTITUTION SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO CONGRESS FOR APPROVAL. AND
00:36:27THERE'S ALL THESE LAWS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL HISTORIC SITES LIKE THE EAST WING OF THE
00:36:30WHITE HOUSE. YOU CAN'T JUST TEAR THEM DOWN WITHOUT PERMISSION. AND SO THEN TRUMP
00:36:34SAYS, WELL, THIS IS NATIONAL SECURITY. I'M DOING IT TO BUILD
00:36:37A BUNKER FOR MYSELF UNDERNEATH. BUT THERE WAS ALREADY A BUNKER
00:36:40UNDERNEATH THERE. AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND BUNKER UNDERNEATH THE WHITE HOUSE. ONE
00:36:43WAS BUILT BACK DURING WORLD WAR TWO FOR FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT, THE ONE UNDERNEATH THE WHITE HOUSE.
00:36:47IT'S ONLY TWO STORIES DOWN. THE SECOND ONE WAS BUILT DURING THE
00:36:51OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. IT IS SIX STORIES UNDERGROUND. AGAIN,
00:36:55UNDERNEATH THE WHITE HOUSE HAS LIVING QUARTERS. I MEAN, YOU
00:36:58KNOW, IT'S OWN AIR AND WATER
00:37:00SUPPLY. IT'S DESIGNED TO
00:37:02WITHSTAND A NUCLEAR A NUCLEAR
00:37:06ATTACK. AND SO WHAT IS TRUMP DOING, DESTROYING THE, THE, THE OLD BUNKER AND BUILDING THE NEW
00:37:09BUNKER? OR DID HE RUIN THE OLD BUNKER WHEN HE WHEN HE TORE UP
00:37:13THE EAST WING? OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOBODY'S EVEN SEEN
00:37:16EVIDENCE OF BUNKER BUILDING, YOU
00:37:18KNOW, BUT THE WHOLE THING IS
00:37:21JUST WEIRD. AND IT'S INCREASINGLY APPEARING. RALPH.
00:37:24LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TRUMP IS DOING IS JUST TRYING TO GET
00:37:27AROUND THE LAW, FRANKLY. SO WE'LL SEE. RALPH, THANKS FOR THE CALL. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
00:37:31AND THANKS FOR WATCHING US ON C-SPAN PAUL IN AMBLER, PENNSYLVANIA. HEY, PAUL, WHAT'S
00:37:34ON YOUR MIND TODAY >> HI, TOM. I WANTED TO TALK
00:37:38ABOUT WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO
00:37:39BE A VERY PROMISING POLITICAL,
00:37:43UH, ENVIRONMENT COME, NOVEMBER.
00:37:47UM, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A GOOD MEMORY OF WHAT I'M BASICALLY
00:37:50TRYING TO REVIEW. THE DEMOCRATIC
00:37:54SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA WERE
00:37:55FORMED IN 73 FROM, UH, TWO OTHER
00:37:59GROUPS, NEW AMERICAN MOVEMENT AND THE SOCIALIST PARTY, USA.
00:38:03UM, THEY WENT INTO THE
00:38:06DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT THE TIME.
00:38:07THEY WENT IN AS THE DEMOCRATIC
00:38:11SOCIALIST ORGANIZING COMMITTEE. THEY WERE MEMBERS OF THE
00:38:14DEMOCRATIC PARTY. UH, SOME MIGHT
00:38:16HAVE RAN AS CANDIDATES OR THEY
00:38:19WORKED AS COMMITTEE PEOPLE OR
00:38:21ADVISORS AND RAN CAMPAIGNS, UH, LOCALLY IN PHILADELPHIA. THERE
00:38:24WERE A LOT OF, UH, VERY ACTIVE
00:38:26DSOC MEMBERS. THEY LIVED IN
00:38:30COOPERATIVE HOUSES, IN POWELTON VILLAGE, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY
00:38:33ACTIVE, LIKE THE LEFT BANK OF PHILADELPHIA AT THE TIME. WHAT
00:38:37HAPPENED WAS, UH, MICHAEL
00:38:40HARRINGTON WAS PUSHING FOR MORE
00:38:43SOCIAL LEGISLATION ALONG THE LINES OF THE NEW DEAL AND THE GREAT SOCIETY. NOW, THIS WAS
00:38:47GOING ON IN THE 70s, BECAUSE BY THEN, THINGS HAD TONED DOWN A
00:38:51LOT. THERE WAS A LOT MORE CONSERVATIVE ON THE ON THE
00:38:54CONSERVATIVISM, ON THE RISE. UM,
00:38:58AND CULMINATING SEVERAL YEARS LATER IN THE 80s WITH REAGAN COMING IN. >> SO YOUR.
00:39:01>> POINT IS. BUT THE POINT IS,
00:39:04WE HAVE A REPEAT OF THAT. PEOPLE
00:39:07UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO REALIGN
00:39:09WITHIN AN INSTITUTION, UH, WHICH
00:39:11PEOPLE LIKE, UH, OCASIO AND
00:39:14TALIB AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE. CORI BUSH, THEY'RE COMING IN AND
00:39:17THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING FOR
00:39:21A MORE, UH, GREATER INVESTMENT
00:39:24IN SOCIETY. AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS
00:39:27BEFORE. THEY HAD. BIGGEST POLIT STORIES. AND THEN, AT THREE
00:39:30CONSERVATIVE. >> WHERE I'M STILL TRYING TO
00:39:32RECOVER FROM THE PERFORMANCES OF
00:39:35THE JAZZ FESTIVAL HERE ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON. >> OH, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT
00:39:38THAT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN. >> WELL.
00:39:42>> YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE,
00:39:44UH, CLASSICAL MUSIC FESTIVAL EITHER, SO I'M GLAD TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS.
00:39:47>> THANK YOU. CHARLES.
00:39:49>> I JUST, I SWEAR TO GOD, I'VE
00:39:52SEEN MANY, UH, WORLD CLASS PIANO
00:39:54PLAYERS IN THE GENRE, BUT, UH, THIS GENTLEMAN I SAW SATURDAY,
00:39:58UH, TAQUITO VALDEZ NEVER WENT.
00:40:02JUST WENT TO THE TOP OF THE LIST. ANYWAY, SIR, MY QUESTION
00:40:05IS, I ASKED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO
00:40:07IF YOU HAD HEARD ANY OF THE, UH
00:40:11FROM THE MUSLIM GUY. SHAHEEN, WALTZ AND KING. HE HAD TIME TO
00:40:14CHECK HIM OUT. >> RIGHT? I HAVE NOT, I'M SORRY.
00:40:16YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE
00:40:18CALLED, UH, LAST WEEK, AND, UH, SUGGESTED THERE WERE TWO BOOKS I
00:40:22SHOULD READ. UM, THE BLIND SPOT
00:40:26AND NERD RISCH. AND SO I GOT THOSE, AND I READ BOTH THOSE
00:40:28BOOKS THIS WEEKEND FOR THOSE
00:40:30CALLERS, BUT, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE
00:40:32AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SHAHID
00:40:35BOLTON. CHARLES. I'M SORRY. >> NO, DON'T BE SORRY. CARRY
00:40:39ON. I'LL BE LISTENING. ANYWAY. THANK YOU SIR. >> THANKS A LOT, CHARLES. GOOD
00:40:42TALKING TO YOU, SUE. IN BELMONT, MICHIGAN. HEY, SUE, WHAT'S ON
00:40:46YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HI. >> UM. >> A FEW WEEKS AGO, I HAD TOLD
00:40:50YOU ABOUT A BOOK I HAD BORROWED
00:40:54FROM A FELLOW PROTESTER ABOUT. THERE'S NO REASON TO GIVE UP ON
00:40:57DEMOCRACY. I THINK IT WAS
00:40:59WRITTEN BY SOMEBODY NAMED VANCE.
00:41:02>> MHM
00:41:04>> SAID, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU FIGURE OUT FOR THE SOLUTION. AND
00:41:08I THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD
00:41:09ALREADY SAY, STAY THE. TO
00:41:13SUMMARIZE IT, STAY INVOLVED.
00:41:16PROTEST UH, TALK TO YOUR REPS
00:41:22AND SENATORS POST THINGS, YOU
00:41:24KNOW, GIVE OUT INFORMATION,
00:41:27ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO STAY
00:41:29INVOLVED, TO LET YOU KNOW YOUR,
00:41:33YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW. YEAH. THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS
00:41:36GOING TO MENTION TO YOU TONIGHT
00:41:40AT 8:00 EASTERN STANDARD TIME,
00:41:44ABDUL EL-SAYED IS GOING TO BE
00:41:45INTERVIEWED BY JESSE WATTERS.
00:41:50AND, UM.
00:41:51>> THE RIGHT WING HOST ON FOX.
00:41:55INTERESTING. >> WELL, KIND OF LIKE A KNOW. >> YEAH, YEAH. PETE LIKES.
00:41:59>> TO FOX. YEAH. SO IF, IF
00:42:01ANYBODY MISSES IT, I'M SURE YOU
00:42:05CAN PICK IT UP ON YOUTUBE. THAT'S WHERE I FIND. >> A LOT ALL OVER THE PLACE.
00:42:08SURE. YEAH. >> YEAH. WELL, IF YOU GET A
00:42:12CHANCE TO WATCH IT, LET ME KNOW OR SAY SOMETHING LATER ON IN
00:42:16THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE WEEK ABOUT IT. WILL DO. I'D BE INTERESTED.
00:42:19>> WE'LL DO. SUE, THANKS A LOT
00:42:20FOR THE HEADS UP, JOHN. IN SEDONA, ARIZONA. WATCH ON
00:42:24C-SPAN. HEY, JOHN, WHAT'S UP. >> GOOD AFTERNOON SIR.
00:42:28>> HEY >> SO I WAS JUST THINKING THE
00:42:31OTHER DAY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
00:42:33SOMETHING I COULD DO POSITIVELY
00:42:35TO AFFECT, UH, UH, THE WORKING
00:42:39MAN IN THE UNITED STATES. AND
00:42:41THE MINIMUM WAGE HAS BEEN SUCH A
00:42:44STICKING POINT FOR SO LONG, AND I. IT CAME TO ME, YOU KNOW,
00:42:48SOMETIMES THE EASIEST ANSWERS ARE THE MOST SIMPLE. AND I WAS
00:42:51THINKING, SINCE THE MINIMUM, THE
00:42:52FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE HASN'T,
00:42:55UH, BEEN RAISED IN DECADES AS A
00:42:58SENIOR, YOU KNOW, I'M IN MY 70s.
00:43:03AND EVERY YEAR, MY SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK IS TIED TO A COST
00:43:06OF LIVING INCREASE. RIGHT. SO I
00:43:08WONDER, WHY IN THE WORLD CAN'T
00:43:11WE JUST ESTABLISH THAT SAME
00:43:16CONCEPT FOR MINIMUM WAGE. >> THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES IN MY
00:43:19LIFETIME THAT I, THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH BY DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS. AND IT'S SHOT DOWN BY
00:43:23THE REPUBLICANS EVERY SINGLE TIME. REPUBLICANS, BASICALLY,
00:43:26YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS HERE FOR THE
00:43:29BILLIONAIRES AND THE BIG CORPORATIONS. AND THEY'RE
00:43:32ABSOLUTELY NOT HERE FOR AVERAGE WORKING PEOPLE. AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SOMETHING FOR
00:43:36WORKING PEOPLE. I WOULD ADD, THOUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE CLINTON AND OBAMA ADMINISTRATIONS, THERE WERE
00:43:40LITTLE WINDOWS WHERE WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN AN AWFUL LOT DONE. AND WE DIDN'T ALONG THOSE
00:43:44LINES. AND I THINK IN PART, IT WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BACK IN,
00:43:46UH, WHEN LEWIS POWELL WAS ON THE SUPREME COURT BACK IN THE 70s,
00:43:50AND, AND HE DID THE, HE ACTUALLY
00:43:53WROTE THE OPINION IN THE BELLOTTI CASE, WHICH SAID THAT CORPORATIONS ARE PERSONS, THEY
00:43:57HAVE FREE SPEECH RIGHTS UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A MOUTH. THEY CAN
00:44:01USE MONEY, AND THEY CAN POUR
00:44:02THAT MONEY INTO CORPORATE, INTO
00:44:05POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS. I MEAN, THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION OF
00:44:07REAGAN'S 1980 CAMPAIGN. AND ALL THE MONEY FROM THE OIL INDUSTRY THAT GOT HIM INTO OFFICE, IN
00:44:11PART, IN ADDITION TO CUTTING THE DEAL WITH THE AYATOLLAH TO HANG
00:44:15ON TO THE HOSTAGES. BUT, YOU
00:44:17KNOW, THE THE BOTTOM LINE IS
00:44:20THAT THE, UH, IN 92, WHEN WHEN,
00:44:25UH, BILL CLINTON RAN FOR PRESIDENT, HE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS BEFORE YOU COULD
00:44:28USE THE INTERNET TO RAISE MONEY.
00:44:31AND THE, AND THE FIVE CORRUPT REPUBLICANS ON THE SUPREME COURT
00:44:35HAD SAID, CORPORATIONS CAN POUR UNLIMITED, ESSENTIALLY UNLIMITED
00:44:38AMOUNTS OF MONEY INTO CAMPAIGNS. AND SO CLINTON BASICALLY HAD TO START SUCKING UP TO THE
00:44:41CORPORATIONS. HE HAD TO ADOPT
00:44:44REAGAN'S NEOLIBERALISM. AND OBAMA LARGELY DID THE SAME THING. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE
00:44:47ONE DEMOCRAT IN THE MODERN ERA
00:44:50WHO TURNED AWAY FROM THAT WAS JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WAS THE MOST PROGRESSIVE OF THE OF THE
00:44:54MODERN PRESIDENTS. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY TRUMP LOVES TO TRASH HIM, WHICH
00:44:58IS BIZARRE. BUT, UM, BUT THE
00:45:00MINIMUM WAGE WAS PUT INTO PLACE
00:45:03IN 1935. AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS INDEXED TO INFLATION, JUST
00:45:06BACK TO, SAY, 1964, IT WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $20 AN
00:45:10HOUR RIGHT NOW. AND INSTEAD OF $7.25 AN HOUR. AND BY THE WAY,
00:45:14IT'S ONLY $7.25 AN HOUR IN RED
00:45:18STATES. AND THAT'S WHY RED STATES HAVE HIGHER RATES OF
00:45:20POVERTY, HIGHER RATES OF SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES,
00:45:24HIGHER RATES OF CHILDHOOD PREGNANCIES, HIGHER RATES OF, OF
00:45:27PEOPLE DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL. UM, YOU KNOW, HIGHER RATES OF
00:45:30JUST A WHOLE SPECTRUM OF
00:45:33DISEASES, UH, SHORTER LIFESPANS,
00:45:36SIGNIFICANTLY SHORTER LIFESPANS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RUN THIS
00:45:38EXPERIMENT, JOHN, IN THE UNITED STATES. SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE DO
00:45:42IT THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS DID WITH THE NEW DEAL, WHICH BUILT
00:45:45THE FIRST MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, THAT WAS TWO THIRDS OF THE POPULATION OF
00:45:49AN ENTIRE COUNTRY. WE DID THAT FROM 33 TO 81. OR SHOULD WE DO
00:45:52IT THE REPUBLICAN WAY, WHICH
00:45:56WE'VE BEEN UNDER NATIONALLY SINCE 80, 81? UM, BUT WE'VE REALLY BEEN UNDER AND, YOU KNOW,
00:46:0025, 30 OF OUR STATES AND DRIVE
00:46:03PEOPLE INTO POVERTY. UH, AND,
00:46:06AND, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BUMPER CROP OF BILLIONAIRES AND,
00:46:10YOU KNOW, IT'S CALLED OLIGARCHY.
00:46:12AND, AND SADLY, THE DECISION, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN MADE. I
00:46:16MEAN, NOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAN SAY NO TO THE BILLIONAIRES AND THE BIG CORPORATIONS,
00:46:20BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE INTERNET AND THEY CAN RAISE MONEY. BUT
00:46:22THE PROBLEM IS THAT THAT PRECEDENT WAS ESTABLISHED. THE
00:46:25PARTY WENT DOWN THAT ROAD, AND YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT HALF THE
00:46:29DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN IN THRALL TO THOSE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THE, THE JOSH GOTTHEIMER AND JARED
00:46:33GOLDENS OF THE WORLD, YOU KNOW,
00:46:34THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, PERFECTLY HAPPY TO TAKE MONEY
00:46:38FROM BILLIONAIRES, RIGHT WING BILLIONAIRES INCLUDED. AND, AND
00:46:41BIG CORPORATIONS AND AIPAC. AND WE JUST NEED TO GET THIS DARK,
00:46:44DARK MONEY, THIS, THIS DIRTY, DARK MONEY OUT OF OUR POLITICAL
00:46:48SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S RUINING, IT'S RUINING AMERICA. JOHN.
00:46:52>> THAT'S THE GORDIAN KNOT.
00:46:53THAT'S STRANGLING US. I
00:46:56REMEMBER IT IS IN MY READING. I
00:46:59FAMILIAR WITH THE QUOTE FROM HENRY FORD. UH, SOMEBODY ASKED
00:47:02HIM, WHY ARE YOU PAYING YOUR EMPLOYEES SO MUCH MONEY? AND HE
00:47:05SAYS, WELL, IF I DON'T, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD MY CARS.
00:47:09>> EXACTLY. YEAH, YEAH. FORD, FORD MORE THAN DOUBLED WAGES IN
00:47:12A REALLY OFF THE DODGE BROTHERS
00:47:14WHO SUED HIM AND WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT IN THE
00:47:17STATE OF MICHIGAN. UM, AND THE
00:47:21FASCINATING, FASCINATING CLEVEL UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE CANDIDATES. THE VOTERS.
00:47:25>> ON HERE. HIS ECONOMY IS IN
00:47:27SHAMBLES RIGHT NOW. THERE'S MASSIVE INFLATION IN RUSSIA. THE
00:47:31UKRAINIANS HAVE JUST OVER THE
00:47:34LAST SIX MONTHS, THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR STRATEGY. THEY'RE NO LONGER JUST FIGHTING ON THE
00:47:37BATTLEFIELD. THEY'RE SENDING DRONES AND MISSILES DEEP INTO
00:47:40RUSSIA, BLOWING UP OIL DEPOTS
00:47:43AND REFINERIES. THERE ARE GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL
00:47:46SHORTAGES AROUND THE COUNTRY,
00:47:47BLOWING UP THESE WILD BERRIES,
00:47:50WAREHOUSES, WILD BERRIES IS THE IT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY IN
00:47:54RUSSIA, SORT OF LIKE AMAZON IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S A THEY
00:47:56THEY DO DELIVERY. IT'S AN
00:47:59ONLINE COMPANY. AND THEY DELIVER
00:48:00TO YOUR HOME. BUT THEY ALSO SELL
00:48:04DRONES. AND, AND, UH, ELECTRONICS THAT ARE USED FOR
00:48:08DRONES. AND, AND SO UKRAINE HAS SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO
00:48:11AFTER THEM. AND PUTIN'S GOT AN ELECTION COMING UP. I MEAN,
00:48:15HE'S NOT ON THE BALLOT, BUT HIS PARTY IS. IT'S THE DUMA. THE
00:48:19DUMA IS THE, THE, YOU KNOW, UH,
00:48:23SINGLE PARLIAMENT IN RUSSIA.
00:48:26AND, UH, PUTIN'S FREAKING OUT.
00:48:29HE'S CRACKING DOWN HERE. HE'S,
00:48:32UH, SERGEI GURIEV, WHO IS A RUSSIAN ECONOMIST AND A KREMLIN CRITIC. AND HE'S ALSO THE DEAN
00:48:36OF THE LONDON SCHOOL OF
00:48:39ECONOMICS. EXCUSE ME, THE LONDON
00:48:43BUSINESS SCHOOL. HE SAID PUTIN'S CALCULUS NOW IS THAT HE WILL GET SOMETHING ELSE FROM
00:48:47TRUMP. HE BELIEVES THAT TIME IS ON HIS SIDE. HE BELIEVES
00:48:50UKRAINIANS WILL NOT SURVIVE NEXT WINTER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I
00:48:54YOU KNOW, I NOTICED WE HAVE
00:48:57EVERY THURSDAY, PHIL ITTNER COMES ON OUR PROGRAM. HE'S A
00:49:01VETERAN WAR CORRESPONDENT WHO LIVES IN KYIV, KYIV, UKRAINE,
00:49:04AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPS US UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
00:49:07AND, AND THE MEANING OF ALL
00:49:09THESE THINGS. AND, UH, HE POINTS
00:49:12OUT, HE POINTED OUT LAST WEEK
00:49:14THAT RUSSIA HAS BEEN TARGETING
00:49:17THE HEATING STATIONS FOR BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES. I MEAN, A
00:49:20LOT OF THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WERE BUILT DURING THE
00:49:24SOVIET ERA. AND SO YOU'VE GOT,
00:49:25YOU KNOW, KIND OF CENTRAL,
00:49:28CENTRAL HEATING POWER. SO THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE
00:49:31BUNCH OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS,
00:49:33LIKE IN A RING OR, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE SQUARE BLOCKS. AND THEN
00:49:36THERE'S ONE BIG BUILDING. UM, THERE ARE PLACES LIKE THIS IN
00:49:38NEW YORK CITY, FOR THAT MATTER.
00:49:40MY BEST FRIEND USED TO LIVE IN
00:49:43ONE OF THEM, THE LADIES GARMENT WORKERS UNION, BUILT IT DOWN AT
00:49:46THE CORNER OF EIGHTH AND 27th.
00:49:48UM, AND YOU'VE GOT ONE SEPARATE BUILDING THAT IS LIKE THE
00:49:52HEATING PLANT, AND IT DRIVES HOT WATER INTO ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS TO HEAT PEOPLE THAT
00:49:55ARE IN THE WINTER. AND RUSSIA
00:49:58HAS BEEN DROPPING MISSILES ON THOSE HEATING PLANTS. SO WHAT
00:50:01THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE PREPARING TO FREEZE PEOPLE TO
00:50:04DEATH IN THE WINTER OR FREEZE THEM OUT BASICALLY, IN THE
00:50:08WINTER. AND PUTIN IS PRETTY FREAKED OUT ABOUT THIS. HE'S,
00:50:10YOU KNOW, UNSURE WHAT TO DO.
00:50:14AND, UH, AND HIS BIG BET, AND I
00:50:18THINK THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT JD VANCE SAID, WHAT, TWO MONTHS
00:50:20AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO, THAT THE
00:50:22PROUDEST MOMENT IN HIS VICE
00:50:25PRESIDENCY WAS WHEN HE, WHEN HE
00:50:27MADE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT
00:50:30SHIPPING ANY MORE WEAPONRY TO
00:50:32UKRAINE. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A TRUMP WHO CUT OFF UKRAINE AS
00:50:36SOON AS HE CAME INTO OFFICE A
00:50:37YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND VANCE WHO'S TALKING LIKE THIS, WHO'S
00:50:41KIND OF THE, THE, THE AGENT OF A
00:50:46RIGHT WING TECH BILLIONAIRE, AND, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS SAID THAT HE NO LONGER THINKS THAT
00:50:50DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM ARE
00:50:52COMPATIBLE. AND IT'S LIKE WE'RE
00:50:57GETTING INTO BED WITH RUSSIA, AND WE'RE SUCKING UP TO KIM
00:50:59JONG UN IN NORTH KOREA, WHO NOW
00:51:03HAS FORMED A SPECIFIC. AND. AND
00:51:05CLEAR MILITARY ALLIANCE WITH RUSSIA. IN FACT, HE JUST SENT,
00:51:08YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF TROOPS TO RUSSIA WHO ARE GOING TO BE PART
00:51:12OF THE THE MEAT BRIGADE THAT'S
00:51:14GOING TO TAKE ON, UM, THE, UH,
00:51:17THE, UH UH, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE
00:51:24THING. SO, UH, SO ANYWAY, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO
00:51:28POINT THAT OUT AND, UH, ANDRE
00:51:32KLEPACZ, THE CHIEF ECONOMIST AT THE RUSSIAN STATE DEVELOPMENT
00:51:34BANK, VEB, WAS FIRED FOR SAYING THAT THE ECONOMY IS NOT DOING
00:51:38WELL. THIS IS SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE FIRING OR THEY'RE REFUSING TO
00:51:42TALK TO PEOPLE AT THE PENTAGON
00:51:44AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, AND
00:51:46THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UH, AND THEN THERE'S GIUFFRE WHO IS SAYING,
00:51:50YOU KNOW, HE'S THE THING THAT
00:51:53PUTIN IS DEPENDING ON IS, NUMBER ONE, HE CAN DO ENOUGH DAMAGE TO
00:51:57UKRAINE THAT, THAT IT'LL JUST RUIN THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SURVIVE
00:52:01THE WINTER. NUMBER TWO, THAT
00:52:03PUTIN IS DEPENDING ON, TRUMP.
00:52:05AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MORE OF THE AMERICAN MEDIA IS NOT
00:52:09POINTING THIS OUT, THAT TRUMP
00:52:10AND VANCE ARE ACTIVELY HELPING,
00:52:16HELPING PUTIN BY REFUSING TO SHIP WEAPONS TO UKRAINE, AND
00:52:19THEN, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM THAT
00:52:22IS COMPOUNDED BY THE JUST KIND
00:52:24OF GENERAL INSANITY OF DONALD
00:52:26TRUMP HAVING, YOU KNOW, STARTED THIS WAR WITH IRAN AND THROWING
00:52:30ALL OF OUR MUNITIONS INTO, INTO
00:52:32THAT COUNTRY OR AT THAT COUNTRY.
00:52:35IT SEEMS SHOCKINGLY STUPID. AND
00:52:39BUT FROM PUTIN'S POINT OF VIEW, AND, YOU KNOW, TRUMP HAS BEEN
00:52:42HAVING AN HOUR LONG, TWO HOUR LONG CONVERSATIONS, PHONE
00:52:45CONVERSATIONS WITH PUTIN EVERY TWO WEEKS, EVER SINCE HE RESUMED OFFICE, EVER SINCE HE CAME BACK
00:52:49INTO OFFICE. AND SO I'M
00:52:52IMAGINING PUTIN AS GOOD ON YOU, DONALD. YOU KNOW, NO MORE NO
00:52:55MORE WEAPONS FOR UKRAINE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEP
00:52:58AT IT. AND, OH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, NETANYAHU, HE'S A GOOD GUY. AND
00:53:02HE SAID, YOU SHOULD INVADE IRAN.
00:53:03THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YOU SHOULD
00:53:07DO THAT. AND TRUMP IS STUPID ENOUGH THAT HE'S LIKE, OH,
00:53:08YEAH, OKAY, I'LL INVADE IRAN AND
00:53:12BURN THROUGH ALL OUR WEAPONS AND BURN OUT OUR TROOPS AND LEAVE
00:53:15TAIWAN. YOU KNOW, NOT COMPLETELY
00:53:18UNDEFENDED, BUT
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