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00:00:00JUST NEED YOU TO DRAG ALL OF YOUR FAMILY, ALL OF YOUR
00:00:03FRIENDS, UM, AND THE GROCERY, YOU KNOW, CLERK AT, IN THE
00:00:07CHECKOUT LINE TO THE POLLS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THOSE VOTE PLANS.
00:00:10>> I TALK TO YOU IN THIS REGION
00:00:12NOW. LINDSAY. DAINES. >> OH, WOW.
00:00:15>> THIS IS A GREAT INTRODUCTION,
00:00:18ACTUALLY. DO YOU MIND GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION?
00:00:21BECAUSE I KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE
00:00:25SO EXCITED THAT GRANT JUST JOINED OUR TEAM AND HAS MADE IT OFFICIAL. SO, GRANT, WILL YOU
00:00:29JUST SAY HELLO AND TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF?
00:00:33>> SURE. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS GRANT. I'M NEWLY WORKING FOR LINDSAY'S CAMPAIGN. I'M VERY
00:00:37EXCITED. I'M FROM MASON CITY. LIVED HERE ALL THROUGHOUT HIGH
00:00:41SCHOOL, GRADUATED, WENT TO COLLEGE DOWN IN TEXAS, AND HAVE
00:00:44NOW COME BACK. AND I'M JUST VERY
00:00:45EXCITED TO BE BACK IN IOWA WITH MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND THE
00:00:49COMMUNITY THAT I REALLY LOVE AND CARE ABOUT. UM, I AM WORKING FOR
00:00:52LINDSAY AS THE, AS A FIELD ORGANIZER, WHICH MEANS IT'S MY
00:00:56JOB TO HELP ORGANIZE VOLUNTEERS AND DOOR KNOCKING AND PHONE
00:01:00BANKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE
00:01:02COME TOGETHER TO GET PEOPLE MOVING FOR LINDSAY AND MAKE
00:01:06THINGS HAPPEN. SO, YES, I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF YOU, IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED AT ALL
00:01:10IN VOLUNTEERING, UM, THAT CAN BE PHONE. >> BANKING AND WE'LL LEAVE THIS
00:01:14PROGRAM HERE, BUT YOU CAN FINISH WATCHING AT C-SPAN.
00:01:16>> DOT. ORG AS WE BEGIN OUR
00:01:19FINAL DAY OF LIVE SIMULCAST
00:01:21COVERAGE IN PORTLAND, OREGON. HEARING FROM PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR AND AUTHOR THOM
00:01:25HARTMANN WITH HIS TAKE ON THE
00:01:27NEWS OF THE DAY. YOU'RE
00:01:30WATCHING C-SPAN 2.
00:01:42>> TO YOU, IT IS NORMALLY ON OUR
00:01:45PROGRAM, WE CALL THIS ANYTHING
00:01:48GOES FRIDAY, ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DOING ANYTHING GOES
00:01:51SUMMER. GENERALLY, WE ASK PEOPLE
00:01:55TO ONLY CALL IN ABOUT THE TOPICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT
00:01:58THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S ON
00:02:01YOUR MIND. AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE
00:02:05CASE. ON FRIDAYS. UH, YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, I GUESS IT WAS ONE OR THE OTHER. ANYWAY, I,
00:02:09I WROTE A PIECE AND TALKED HERE
00:02:18ABOUT BOB KENNEDY AND HOW HE'S
00:02:24SCREWED UP THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE HEALTH AND HUMAN
00:02:28SERVICES THING. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN, UH, APPARENTLY, UH,
00:02:31HAS LIED TO CONGRESS. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS CALLING FOR THE IMPEACHMENT OF HIM FOR, FOR
00:02:34BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE DEATHS
00:02:36IN AMERICA. WE HAD TWO, TWO PEOPLE DIE. ONE OF THEM, AN
00:02:41INFANT OF MEASLES IN
00:02:45PENNSYLVANIA THIS WEEK. AND, OF
00:02:49COURSE, BOB AND, AND, UH, I
00:02:53THINK DR. OZ, TOO, THESE, THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, SHILLS AND LICKSPITTLES IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, UH, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T
00:02:57ACTUALLY DIE OF MEASLES. YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, AND THAT'S THE
00:02:58THING. I MEAN, MEASLES CAUSES,
00:03:02YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BRAIN HEMORRHAGES OR SOMETHING, OR PNEUMONIA ACTUALLY IS ONE OF THE MORE COMMON THINGS. I THINK THAT
00:03:05ACTUALLY THE CHILD DIED OF PNEUMONIA, BUT IT'S CAUSED BY THE MEASLES. AND THIS WAS THE
00:03:08SAME SCAM THAT THESE GUYS TRIED
00:03:12TO RUN ON COVID. AND TO THIS DAY, THEY'RE SAYING, NO, THAT MILLION PEOPLE IN AMERICA
00:03:16DIDN'T DIE OF COVID. UM, YOU
00:03:18KNOW, THEY DIED OF STROKES AND
00:03:22HEART ATTACKS. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ARGUABLY TRUE. BUT THOSE STROKES AND HEART
00:03:25ATTACKS WERE CAUSED BY THE COVID. IT'S LIKE, AND THE KID DIED BECAUSE WHATEVER IT WAS THAT ACTUALLY ENDED HIS BODY,
00:03:28YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LIKE,
00:03:32IT'S LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SAYING
00:03:36IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WALKING
00:03:38DOWN THE STREET AND A PIANO
00:03:42FALLS ON YOUR HEAD, YOU DIDN'T DIE FROM A PIANO FALLING ON YOUR HEAD. YOU DIED BECAUSE YOUR
00:03:44SKULL WAS CRUSHED. UH, THIS IS CRAZY. BUT ANYHOW, WHEN, WHEN
00:03:48BOB WAS BEING INTERVIEWED BY THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR THIS
00:03:52POSITION AS OUR CHIEF HEALTH OFFICER, THIS GUY WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO TRAINING IN HEALTH, UH, HAS WRITTEN AND SAID
00:03:55THAT IT WAS HEROIN THAT ALLOWED HIM TO GET THROUGH COLLEGE. HE
00:03:58WAS A HEROIN ADDICT WHO EATS
00:04:02ROADKILL AND GOT A BRAIN WORM FROM IT. UH, WHO HAS NO MEDICAL
00:04:06TRAINING, BUT HAS BEEN THE LEADER OF AN ANTI-VAX PROGRAM
00:04:09FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
00:04:12UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHILDREN'S HEALTH DEFENSE, I THINK, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, ANYHOW,
00:04:15WHEN HE WAS TESTIFYING BEFORE CONGRESS, SENATOR RON WYDEN, MY
00:04:19SENATOR FROM OREGON, ASKED HIM,
00:04:26DID ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU WENT
00:04:28TO SAMOA, WHICH IS AN AMERICAN
00:04:32TERRITORY, AND, UH, AND YOU TOLD
00:04:35THOSE PEOPLE BASICALLY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T GET VACCINATED, YOU
00:04:38KNOW, FOR, FOR MEASLES? AND BOB SAID, NO, NO, I DIDN'T. THAT
00:04:41MEETING HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
00:04:43MEASLES. YEAH, YEAH. HIS EXACT
00:04:46WORDS WERE, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
00:04:47WITH VACCINES WELL, NOW, THE
00:04:52LETTERS HAVE COME OUT. HE WAS HAVING CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE GOVERNOR OF SAMOA, AND HE TALKED ABOUT HOW HE WANTED TO COME AND
00:04:55TALK ABOUT THE MMR VACCINE, OR
00:04:56AT LEAST ABOUT VACCINES IN
00:05:02GENERAL. THE, UH, UH, THE GOVERNOR, UH, KENNEDY TOLD THE
00:05:04SAMOAN PRIME MINISTER, EXCUSE ME, HE WANTED TO STUDY THE
00:05:08MEASLES, MUMPS, AND RUBELLA VACCINE IN THE PACIFIC ISLAND
00:05:12NATION AND USE THE WORDS VACCINE
00:05:14OR VACCINATION EIGHT TIMES. SO JOSH SCHWARTZ, WHO IS A
00:05:18PROFESSOR OF LAW AT GEORGETOWN
00:05:20UNIVERSITY LAW CENTER, SAYS LYING TO CONGRESS IS A CRIME.
00:05:23WHETHER OR NOT THE WITNESSES UNDER OATH. THIS IS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE
00:05:26REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE IS, UM,
00:05:28WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT
00:05:32THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD, WHETHER THEY'RE JUDGES WHO WANT
00:05:35TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, DOMINI, DOMINI, DOMINI,
00:05:39OR, UH, BLESSED BY THE SENATE, UH, OR, OR CONFIRMED ACTUALLY IS THE WORD OR WHETHER THEY'RE
00:05:43CABINET SECRETARIES, THEY REFUSE TO PUT THEM UNDER OATH, AS IF
00:05:46THAT'S MAKES A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? SO THAT IF THEY LIE TO
00:05:48CONGRESS, THEY WON'T HAVE QUITE
00:05:50AS MUCH LEGAL LIABILITY. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE
00:05:53LAW SAYS THAT IT'S A IT'S A CRIME TO LIE TO CONGRESS,
00:05:56WHETHER YOU'RE UNDER OATH OR NOT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER I SWEAR
00:05:59TO GOD, I'LL YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU'RE
00:06:03STILL. SO, UM, JOSH GREEN, A
00:06:07MEDICAL DOCTOR WHO TRAVELED TO SAMOA TO HELP WITH THE MEASLES RESPONSE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AFTER BOB WENT AND TOLD HIM
00:06:10NOT TO GET THE VACCINE. UH, APPARENTLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:06:13DIDN'T GET THE VACCINE. AND 80
00:06:17SOME ODD PEOPLE, I BELIEVE IT WAS 83, MOST OF THEM CHILDREN. YEAH, 83 PEOPLE, MOSTLY CHILDREN
00:06:19UNDER FIVE, DIED OF MEASLES OR
00:06:23MEASLES RELATED ILLNESS. AND,
00:06:26UH, SO, UH, MIKE, MY SON, AS I
00:06:29MENTIONED, MY SENATOR, RON WYDEN, IS SAYING, UH, BOB'S
00:06:32PLATFORM, RFK'S PLATFORM IS BUILT ON LIES AND GRIFTS THAT
00:06:35LEAVE A TRAIL OF DEAD CHILDREN IN THEIR WAKE. THERE ARE
00:06:38CONSEQUENCES FOR LYING TO
00:06:42CONGRESS. AND HE IS ASKING HIS REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WHO
00:06:46CONTROL THE SENATE, HE CAN'T DO
00:06:47THIS HIMSELF. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, JOHN THUNE COULD HE'S ASKING
00:06:51THEM TO ISSUE A CRIMINAL REFERRAL OF KENNEDY TO THE
00:06:54DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR LYING
00:06:57TO CONGRESS. AND OPEN AN INVESTIGATION. AND FRANKLY, I'M
00:07:00TELLING YOU, IF THE DEMOCRATS TAKE THE SENATE THIS YEAR, THEY
00:07:04WILL DO THAT THEMSELVES. SO, YOU
00:07:07KNOW, HERE WE HAVE I MEAN, THIS IS JUST SO COMMON. WE'VE WE'VE
00:07:11GOT EXAMPLE. AFTER LITERALLY EVERY JUDGE THIS YEAR. AND LAST
00:07:15YEAR THAT CAME BEFORE THE SENATE FOR CONFIRMATION, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING LIKE BETWEEN 50 AND 80 OF THEM. I
00:07:18FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER. UM,
00:07:22EVERY SINGLE JUDGE WAS ASKED BY A DEMOCRAT WHO WON THE 2020 ELECTION, AND EVERY ONE HAS
00:07:26REFUSED TO SAY, I MEAN, OR LIED
00:07:28ABOUT IT. IT'S CRAZY.
00:07:33>> [MUSIC]
00:07:42[MUSIC] >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
00:07:45>> HEY. >> HAPPY FRIDAY, TGIF, SHABBAT
00:07:49SHALOM. JUMAH MUBARAK, WHATEVER IT IS FOR YOU, IT'S THE END OF THE WEEK HERE. UH, OUR LAST DAY OF THE WEEK AND THE BEGINNING OF
00:07:53THE WEEKEND. ANYTHING GOES.
00:07:56WEEKEND. UH, A LOT TO TALK ABOUT
00:07:58TODAY. DON'T PUT THE C. UH,
00:08:01EXCUSE ME. DON'T PUT, LET ME
00:08:06START OVER AGAIN. PUT THE C E Os
00:08:09IN HANDCUFFS. TRUMP IS A. TRUMP IS ARRESTING THE WRONG PEOPLE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A
00:08:13MOMENT. ALSO, DON'T LET THE WORD SOCIALISM SCARE YOU. PROGRESSIVES JUST WANT A COUNTRY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. AND THE
00:08:17FDA HAS APPROVED THAT COVID VACCINE THAT I WAS RANTING ABOUT
00:08:21A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE BOB KENNEDY TRIED
00:08:24TO PACK THE, THE VACCINE
00:08:26ADVISORY BOARD WITH RIGHT WING
00:08:30ANTI-VACCINE CRANKS THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE YOUR INSURANCE
00:08:34COMPANY WON'T PAY FOR IT. AND
00:08:34THERE IS NO GUIDANCE AS TO WHO
00:08:39CAN GET IT AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES. SO IT'S GETTING
00:08:42WEIRD. I'LL GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. IN OUR SECOND HOUR, ALEX LAWSON IS GOING TO DROP BY
00:08:46THE PRESIDENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS, THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST
00:08:49FUND IS RUNNING OUT. LET'S TALK
00:08:51REAL SOLUTIONS. OH, AND BY THE WAY, BABY BOOMERS DIDN'T STEAL
00:08:55THE MONEY AND ALSO, IN THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, WHY
00:08:59IS WHISKEY PETE HEGSETH BUILDING
00:09:01A PENTAGON TROLL ARMY? I THOUGHT
00:09:05HAVING THE GOVERNMENT PRODUCE PROPAGANDA WAS AGAINST THE LAW.
00:09:08AND ALSO, SUPERSONIC JETS ARE
00:09:10ALMOST HERE. 3.5 HOURS FROM FROM NEW YORK TO LONDON. THIS IS
00:09:13GOING TO BE INTERESTING. IN OUR
00:09:15THIRD HOUR. ARE WE ALL JELLY ROLL TODAY? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
00:09:19CAUGHT JELLY ROLL LAST NIGHT ON
00:09:22JIMMY KIMMEL'S SHOW, BUT IT'S ON YOUTUBE. THE MONOLOGUE, IT'S REALLY WORTH WATCHING. WE'LL
00:09:25TALK ABOUT THAT. AND ALSO, IS ANYBODY ELSE CONCERNED THAT
00:09:29TRUMP IS STARTING A CRYPTO BANK
00:09:31THAT IS 49% OWNED BY THE ABU
00:09:35DHABI SHEIKH, KNOWN AS THE SPY
00:09:36SHEIKH, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THEIR
00:09:41INTELLIGENCE SERVICES. AND THIS IS A COUNTRY WITH, YOU KNOW, TREATIES WITH CHINA. UH, WE'LL
00:09:45GET TO THAT IN THE THIRD HOUR.
00:09:46BUT MY DAILY TAKE TODAY OVER AT
00:09:51HARTMAN REPORT.COM IS, UH, IS TITLED PUT THE CEOS IN HANDCUFFS
00:09:55TRUST. TRUMP'S ICE IS ARRESTING THE WRONG PEOPLE. AND THERE'S A
00:09:59SIMPLE SOLUTION TO OUR SO-CALLED
00:10:02ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.
00:10:04AND, AND RONALD REAGAN CAME UP
00:10:09WITH THIS SOLUTION. NOW I HAVE A
00:10:12LONG HISTORY OF NOT PRAISING RONALD REAGAN, BUT HE WAS RIGHT
00:10:15ABOUT THIS. AND I, I NEVER
00:10:18THOUGHT I'D SAY THOSE WORDS. AND SEAN IS LOOKING SHOCKED.
00:10:21I'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
00:10:24HAPPENING IS THAT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THIS GROWING MOVEMENT IN
00:10:28AMERICA TO DEFUND AND SHUT DOWN.
00:10:32ICE AND FIRE AND PROSECUTE THEIR BRUTAL AND MURDEROUS THUGS AND
00:10:35CLOSE THEIR CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
00:10:38FOX NEWS FOUND 59% OF VOTERS RIGHT ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. IT DIDN'T PRETTY MUCH
00:10:42MATTER BY PARTY WHO SAY ICE IS TOO AGGRESSIVE. NEARLY TWO
00:10:45THIRDS OF VOTERS TOLD MARIST THE
00:10:48AGENCY HAS GONE TOO FAR, AND
00:10:50SUPPORT FOR ABOLISHING ICE HAS
00:10:52DOUBLED SINCE 2018, AND, YOU
00:10:55KNOW, MOST PEOPLE IN THAT MOVEMENT, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, END
00:10:59ICE, DEFUND ICE, SHUT DOWN ICE, CLOSE THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
00:11:02MOST PEOPLE IN THAT MOVEMENT POINT TO THE BRUTALITY AND THE
00:11:04AND THE BARBARITY OF THEIR
00:11:08ACTIONS. BUT I WOULD, I WOULD
00:11:11MAKE THE CASE THAT THERE'S AN EVEN STRONGER ARGUMENT FOR
00:11:13SHUTTING DOWN ICE. AND THAT IS
00:11:17THAT THERE'S SIMPLY NOT NEEDED
00:11:19NOW, FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME. THIS, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT
00:11:22OF THOUGHT, BUT IT MAKES A WHOLE
00:11:25LOT OF SENSE. AND MITT ROMNEY
00:11:28AND RONALD REAGAN AGREE WITH ME
00:11:30RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT, LIKE, FARMERS IN MAINE WHO ARE
00:11:34FREAKING OUT BECAUSE THE, UH, THEY WERE JUST NOTIFIED THAT ICE IS FLYING DRONES OVER THEIR
00:11:37FIELDS LOOKING FOR BROWN SKINNED
00:11:42PEOPLE IN CONNECTICUT. THESE MASKED, BLOODTHIRSTY GOONS ARE DRAGGING PEOPLE OFF IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN AT SCHOOL BUS
00:11:45STOPS. AT LEAST 25 PEOPLE IN A
00:11:49SINGLE DAY BUT HAVE YOU HEARD OF
00:11:54EVEN ONE RICH WHITE EMPLOYER OF
00:11:59UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE GOING TO JAIL OR BEING ARRESTED BY ICE,
00:12:03OR BEING THROWN IN THOSE
00:12:06CONCENTRATION CAMPS? EVEN ONE. AND YET, THAT'S WHAT THE LAW
00:12:10AUTHORIZES. I HUSTED WELL,
00:12:19BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT
00:12:21STOPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
00:12:25THAT PEOPLE MEO THIS COUNTRY, BY AND LARGE, YOU KNOW,
00:12:27SOME PEOPLE COME TO THIS COUNTRY
00:12:30ACTUALLY FLEEING HORRORS, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE IMMIGRATION LAWS,
00:12:32AND WE HAVE ASYLUM LAWS THAT SHOULD PROTECT THEM. TRUMP IS
00:12:35REFUSING TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS. MILLER AND, YOU KNOW, THESE
00:12:39THESE GOONS ARE REFUSING TO ENFORCE THOSE LAWS, BUT THEY'RE,
00:12:42THEY'RE BUT MOST PEOPLE COME HERE LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC
00:12:45OPPORTUNITY. THEY'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO MAKE ENOUGH
00:12:49MONEY TO SEND BACK HOME OR TO JUST BECOME A CITIZEN AND RAISE
00:12:53THEIR FAMILIES HERE IN THE, IN THE LAND OF PROMISE, RIGHT? THE
00:12:56AMERICAN DREAM. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS
00:12:59COUNTRY NOW, THIS WHOLE
00:13:01ARGUMENT, BY THE WAY, IS PREDICATED ON KIND OF THAT
00:13:04ASSUMPTION OR A VARIATION OF IT, WHICH ITSELF CAN BE CHALLENGED.
00:13:08I THINK WE DO NEED IMMIGRATION. AND IN FACT, IMMIGRATION HAS
00:13:11ALWAYS BEEN A POSITIVE THING FOR AMERICA. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT
00:13:15RATIONAL IMMIGRATION. YOU WANT CONTROLLED AND REGULATED
00:13:18IMMIGRATION. AND SO HOW DO YOU
00:13:20DO THAT? IT'S VERY SIMPLE. YOU
00:13:22SIMPLY TELL EMPLOYERS, IF YOU
00:13:25HIRE SOMEBODY WHO IS HERE
00:13:27WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION, YOU GO TO
00:13:30JAIL. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.
00:13:33BUT THE REALITY IS THAT STEPHEN
00:13:38MILLER AND DONALD TRUMP DON'T CARE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. YOU KNOW, IN THEIR MINDS, WHAT THIS IS REALLY ALL
00:13:41ABOUT IS GLEEFUL ENTERTAINMENT. THEY'RE JUST HAVING GREAT FUN,
00:13:45SLAPPING AROUND AND KILLING OFF,
00:13:47KILLING BLACK PEOPLE AND BROWN
00:13:50PEOPLE. MEAN, YOU WANT PROOF
00:13:52THAT THEY DON'T CARE. TRUMP
00:13:54HIRED UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS
00:13:57REPEATEDLY. HE HIRED A BUNCH OF POLISH UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS TO WORK ON TRUMP TOWER. AND THEN
00:14:00WHEN THEY WANTED TO GET PAID, HE
00:14:03PHONED THEM IN AND HAD HIM
00:14:04DEPORTED BACK TO POLAND HE
00:14:08ROUTINELY HIRES OR HAS HIRED, AS
00:14:09FORTUNE MAGAZINE NOTED, UNDOCUMENTED FORTUNE MAGAZINE
00:14:13SAID, QUOTE, TRUMP HIMSELF HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF EMPLOYING UNAUTHORIZED WORKERS AT HIS
00:14:17HOTELS, HIS GOLF COURSES AND HIS
00:14:18OTHER BUSINESSES SO HOW DO YOU
00:14:22DEAL WITH THIS? WELL, THE REST OF THE WORLD IS FAR MORE RATIONAL ABOUT THIS. I HAVE
00:14:26LIVED AND WORKED IN TWO
00:14:32DIFFERENT COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. I LIVED IN ONE OF THEM. I WORKED IN BOTH OF THEM
00:14:34WHERE I HAD TO GET A WORK PERMIT
00:14:36AND A VISA IN ORDER TO GET A PAYCHECK. IN THOSE COUNTRIES,
00:14:40GERMANY AND AUSTRALIA WERE THE
00:14:42TWO COUNTRIES, AND MY EMPLOYERS
00:14:47WERE THE ONES WHO WERE SAYING, YOU GOT TO DO THIS. IT WASN'T,
00:14:50YOU KNOW, LIKE THE GOVERNMENT OF AUSTRALIA OR THE GOVERNMENT OF
00:14:54GERMANY. YOU KNOW, THEIR POLICE TRACKED ME DOWN OR ANYTHING. IT
00:14:58WAS THE EMPLOYERS, THE PEOPLE,
00:15:01THE PEOPLE, THE SPEAKING TOUR THAT I DID IN AUSTRALIA. AND THE YEAR THAT I LIVED IN GERMANY AND WORKED FOR A NONPROFIT, MY
00:15:05EMPLOYERS SAID TO ME, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT THESE FORMS AND GET
00:15:09THIS PERMIT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, I WILL BE HIT WITH A
00:15:13HUGE FINE, AND I COULD GO TO
00:15:17JAIL. AND, BUT, YOU KNOW,
00:15:20REPUBLICANS LOVE UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T REPORT WAGE THEFT. THEY
00:15:24CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT DANGEROUS WORKING CONDITIONS. THEY CAN'T
00:15:26SIGN UP FOR A UNION. THEY'RE
00:15:28EASILY ABUSED AND EXPLOITED, AND GENERALLY, THEIR LABOR IS
00:15:32CHEAPER THAN, THAN CITIZENS. AND BUT THERE'S AN AMAZING HISTORY
00:15:36HERE. RONALD REAGAN IN 1986, WE
00:15:38FIRST, PRIOR TO 1986, IT WASN'T
00:15:42ILLEGAL TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT HERE, WHO ARE HERE WITHOUT
00:15:45DOCUMENTATION. BUT IN 86, REAGAN
00:15:50SIGNED THIS LAW. UH, YOU KNOW,
00:15:53THE IMMIGRATION REFORM AND CONTROL ACT OF 86. AND IN HIS SIGNING STATEMENT, HE SAID THE EMPLOYER SANCTIONS PROGRAM IS
00:15:57THE KEYSTONE AND MAJOR ELEMENT. IT WILL REMOVE THE INCENTIVE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BY
00:16:01ELIMINATING THE JOB OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH DRAW ALIENS. HERE. THIS IS THE SAME
00:16:04THING THAT MITT ROMNEY RAN ON IN
00:16:082012. HE SAID, IF WE JUST, YOU
00:16:12KNOW, IF WE JUST THREATEN THE EMPLOYERS, THERE WON'T BE JOB OPPORTUNITIES. AND IF THERE'S
00:16:15NOT JOB OPPORTUNITIES, THEN
00:16:18PEOPLE WON'T COME. AND IT'S,
00:16:20IT'S, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT
00:16:25WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SO SIMPLE. IT'S SO STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE
00:16:29NEED TO DO TWO THINGS. AND AS
00:16:31ADAM SCORER, UH, SCHROYER POINTED OUT IN THE ATLANTIC IN
00:16:342018, THE CRUELTY IS THE POINT.
00:16:36THIS IS ALL ABOUT PERFORMANCE.
00:16:39THIS IS THIS IS SO, I MEAN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE
00:16:43DHS PRESS RELEASES, THE MUG SHOTS, AND THEIR MONTAGES.
00:16:46TRUMP'S GLEEFUL, ALL CAPS CAP POSTS ON HIS NAZI INFESTED
00:16:49SOCIAL MEDIA SITE. AND TRAGIC. I MEAN, IT'S A SHOW THAT'S BEING
00:16:52PUT ON FOR THE RACISTS AMONG US. IT'S A SHOW BEING PUT ON FOR
00:16:55THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE NOT
00:16:59SERIOUSLY TRYING TO DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION. THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE
00:17:03AMERICA WHITE AGAIN. BASICALLY.
00:17:05AND TRAGICALLY, THE ENTIRE WORLD
00:17:12IS WATCHING WITH HORROR. WE NEED COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM, AND WE NEED TO START
00:17:15PROSECUTING EMPLOYERS. UM,
00:17:17PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD STUFF.
00:17:20TEXAS DEMOCRAT VERONICA ESCOBAR
00:17:22HAS THIS DIGNITY ACT. REPUBLICAN
00:17:24SENATOR JAMES LANKFORD AUTHORED
00:17:29A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. AND TRUMP SAID THAT HE WANTED IT KILLED
00:17:32WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024, BECAUSE HE
00:17:35DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A REASONABLE AND RATIONAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. HE WANTED TO
00:17:38BE ABLE TO GO AFTER BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE JUST SO HE COULD
00:17:42GET THE RACIST VOTE, WHICH IS
00:17:45WHAT HE'S DOING. SO IT'S TIME
00:17:46TO END ICE AND GO BACK TO SANITY
00:17:50AND DO WHAT MITT ROMNEY AND
00:17:53RONALD REAGAN HAVE BEEN BEGGING US TO DO FOREVER. AND REAGAN
00:17:56ACTUALLY WAS ENFORCING THAT LAW,
00:17:57BY THE WAY, THROUGHOUT THE 80s, IT COLLAPSED THE COLLAPSE OF
00:18:01THE. WE STOPPED ENFORCING THAT LAW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE. GEORGE
00:18:04HERBERT WALKER BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THE BIG AG
00:18:07PEOPLE STARTED COMING IN AND
00:18:08SAYING, NO, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. WE NEED WE NEED CHEAP
00:18:13LABOR WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK >> THIS IS THE
00:18:16>> [MUSIC] >> THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
00:18:18>> TALK MEDIA FOR THE SANE AMONG
00:18:22US. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH
00:18:23YOU.
00:18:29>> [MUSIC]
00:18:40>> AND WELCOME BACK, FRANK IN THOMPSON FALLS, MONTANA. HEY,
00:18:43FRANK. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> WELL, A GENTLEMAN CALLED A
00:18:47COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND SAID THAT HE LIKED THE. YEAH. >> YEAH, YOU'RE ON THE AIR.
00:18:51>> HELLO? YEAH, A GENTLEMAN CALLED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND
00:18:53SAID HE WAS SATISFIED WITH THE
00:18:57MEDICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES. AND I'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE
00:18:59OF WHY WE SHOULD GO TO
00:19:01SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. I TRIED FOR
00:19:04FOUR YEARS TO GET BOTH MY KNEES DONE, AND I WAS DENIED BY FOUR
00:19:07SEPARATE SURGEONS BECAUSE I WAS
00:19:09ON PAIN MEDICATION. AND I
00:19:12FINALLY FOUND A SURGEON THAT WOULD OPERATE ON ME. HE DID ONE
00:19:16KNEE TWO MONTHS AGO, AND I'M GOING IN MONDAY TO HAVE THE
00:19:19OTHER ONE DONE. BUT IT SHOULDN'T TAKE FOUR YEARS FOR A
00:19:22PERSON TO GET HIS KNEES DONE. WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG
00:19:25WITH THE PERSON, EXCEPT FOR I
00:19:27WAS IN A MAJOR MOTORCYCLE WRECK IN OH FOUR. I'VE DEALT WITH THIS
00:19:30FOR 26 YEARS. AND, UH, I'M ON
00:19:36PAIN MEDICATION BECAUSE I HAVE A
00:19:36MIGRAINE ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
00:19:41>> OUCH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF
00:19:45TWO ISSUES. THE WAY THAT WE DEAL WITH PAIN IN THIS COUNTRY IS CRAZY. THERE'S ALL THIS HYSTERIA
00:19:47AROUND ADDICTION. UM, YOU KNOW, SO, SO YOU'RE ADDICTED. I MEAN,
00:19:51YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN LIFELONG PAIN, IF THE MEDICATION HELPS
00:19:53YOU, YOU TAKE IT FOR THE REST OF
00:19:56YOUR LIFE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, OR
00:19:58IF, IF SOMEBODY IS OLD AND DYING, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
00:20:01THE BIG DEAL? THEY WERE AFRAID TO GIVE PAIN MEDICATION. MY DAD, AS HE WAS DYING. IT WAS IT WAS NUTS.
00:20:05>> RIGHT. AND I'VE TRIED ALL ALTERNATIVES. I LIVED WITH A
00:20:09NATUROPATH, AND I'VE DONE
00:20:12EVERYTHING FROM ACUPUNCTURE TO
00:20:14REFLEXOLOGY TO, UH, DIFFERENT
00:20:17KINDS OF THINGS. AND IT'S JUST
00:20:20LIKE I TOLD HIM, I SAID, THERE'S NO WAY. THEY SAID THE
00:20:23ONLY WAY THEY WOULD OPERATE ON ME IS IF I WAS OFF THE MEDICATION. TOTALLY FOR SIX MONTHS.
00:20:27>> YEAH, YEAH. WHICH, WHICH MEANS YOU'D BE IN INSANE PAIN.
00:20:30YEAH. NO, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR SYSTEM IS SO BADLY BROKEN. GOOD POINT. FRANK, THANK YOU VERY
00:20:34MUCH FOR CALLING AND MAKING IT. TOM IN MEDIA, PENNSYLVANIA. HEY,
00:20:36TOM. WHAT'S UP? >> YEAH, I.
00:20:40>> TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. AND I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS FOR TEN YEARS TO GO AFTER THE
00:20:44EMPLOYERS. YEAH. UH, IT'S.
00:20:48>> THE LAW, BY THE WAY. TOM. >> YEAH, YEAH. BUT I THINK THAT,
00:20:52YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO START A PILOT PROGRAM IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE
00:20:55TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY. I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL GOOD MIDDLE CLASS JOBS.
00:20:59>> WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT
00:21:00PROGRAM. IT'S CALLED E-VERIFY
00:21:05IT'S JUST THAT IT'S NOT.
00:21:08>> MANDATORY. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WEAKNESSES IN
00:21:12THAT. I THINK THAT COULD BE STRENGTHENED. I WOULD SUPPORT STRENGTHENING IT. YEAH, STRENGTHENING THAT UP. THERE ARE
00:21:16SOME WEAKNESSES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AFTER PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN'T SAY, WELL, I THE E-VERIFY SYSTEM
00:21:20WASN'T RIGHT, BUT STRENGTHEN THAT UP AND GO AFTER THEM
00:21:22ECONOMICALLY. MHM.
00:21:26>> AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THESE RICH GUYS RESPOND TO IS, IS THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING
00:21:29THEIR MONEY OR GOING TO JAIL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND BOTH
00:21:33ARE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE. BY THE WAY, UNDER THE 1986 LAW, YOU
00:21:36KNOW. >> I.
00:21:39>> UNDERSTAND REAGAN HAD, YOU
00:21:42KNOW, ON AVERAGE, DURING THE
00:21:45YEARS AFTER 86, WHILE HE WAS STILL PRESIDENT, IT WAS AROUND
00:21:4910,000 EMPLOYER AUDITS A YEAR. AND BY THE MIDDLE OF THE OF THE
00:21:53FIRST BUSH ADMINISTRATION, GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DOWN TO LIKE 100. AND NOW IT'S NOT. NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN NONE, BASICALLY, UNDER
00:21:56UNDER TRUMP. >> YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN SO FAR
00:21:59NOW. IT'S NOT JUST RICH MOGULS, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE
00:22:03TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY. I KNOW A LOT OF GOOD CONTRACTORS. THEY
00:22:05HAVE NO RECOURSE BUT TO, TO
00:22:11HIRE, TO COMPETE. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU MAKE IT FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, SAY, GIVE THEM TWO YEARS SO THEY CAN HAVE
00:22:15APPRENTICESHIPS AND ALL. AND,
00:22:19YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT JUST DO IT IN CONSTRUCTION AND TRANSPORTATION TO START. BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT
00:22:22IN EVERY INDUSTRY, THERE ARE GOING TO BE HUGE SHORTAGES. BUT
00:22:25CONSTRUCTION AND TRANSPORTATION, HEY, LET'S DO IT. >> YEAH.
00:22:28>> GOOD POINT TOM. THANK YOU. IT
00:22:30IS 20, 20 MINUTES AND A HALF
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00:25:56>> THE ROAD. >> TO THE CAPITOL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES,
00:26:00AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS
00:26:04ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST RACES WILL DECIDE. >> CHUCK COLLINS HAS BEEN ON
00:26:07THIS PROGRAM A NUMBER OF TIMES.
00:26:10A VERY WEALTHY GUY WHO HAS BEEN
00:26:13PREACHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO TAX THE RICH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND HE SAYS THIS DEBATE
00:26:17OVER CAPITALISM VERSUS SOCIALISM IS LIKE A CARICATURE OF MONOPOLY
00:26:21MAN VERSUS KARL MARX, OR THE MARX MONSTER, HE SAYS. ACROSS
00:26:25THE PLANET, THERE ARE COUNTLESS FLAVORS OF CAPITALISM. THEY'VE
00:26:28GOT IT IN CHINA NOW, OR SOCIALISM, YOU KNOW, IT'S WELL,
00:26:32YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, OUR SOCIALISTS,
00:26:35OUR, OUR, OUR ENTIRE MILITARY HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS SOCIALIST.
00:26:39IT'S LIKE ENGLAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT. THE DOCTORS WORK FOR
00:26:43THE GOVERNMENT. THAT'S PURE SOCIALISM. YOU KNOW, FOX NEWS
00:26:46EXISTED IN THE 1950s, HE WRITES. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCUSING
00:26:49DWIGHT EISENHOWER OF BEING A SOCIALIST BECAUSE HE WANTED HE
00:26:52HE HAD, HE MAINTAINED, A 90% TOP
00:26:56INCOME TAX RATE ON THE RICH THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE EIGHT YEARS. THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT,
00:26:59DWIGHT EISENHOWER, 90% TOP
00:27:02INCOME TAX RATE ON THE RICH,
00:27:0450%. TOP INCOME TAX RATE ON
00:27:06CORPORATIONS. AND WHAT DID IT
00:27:09DO? IT BUILT THE MIDDLE CLASS. I
00:27:12MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT
00:27:14STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND DWIGHT EISENHOWER, DURING DWIGHT
00:27:18EISENHOWER'S PRESIDENCY, THAT WAS WHEN MY MOM WENT TO COLLEGE AT MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY AND PAID HER WAY THROUGH A FOUR YEAR
00:27:22DEGREE. MAGYAR GRADUATED MAGNA
00:27:24LAUDE BY PROPPING AIRPLANES IN
00:27:26THE LOCAL AIRPORT AND BEING A LIFEGUARD UP IN CHARLEVOIX. AND
00:27:29NOW THERE'S JUST A SUMMER JOB,
00:27:31YOU KNOW, A SUMMER KIND OF MINIMUM WAGE JOB. YOU COULD PUT
00:27:35YOURSELF THROUGH COLLEGE DURING
00:27:37DWIGHT EISENHOWER'S PRESIDENCY,
00:27:39AND HE BUILT HOUSES LIKE CRAZY.
00:27:42HE HE SENT MILLIONS OF YOUNG MEN
00:27:45TO COLLEGE FOR FREE. IN FACT, WE PAID MY DAD AND HIS DAD, MY
00:27:48WIFE'S DAD BOTH WENT TO COLLEGE
00:27:51ON THE GI BILL. AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT WE MADE $7. OUR
00:27:55NATION MADE $7 IN ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE OVER THE COURSE OF THE
00:27:58LIFETIME. OF THE PEOPLE WHO WENT THROUGH THE GI BILL, FOR EVERY
00:28:02$1 IT COST US, IT WAS A MASSIVE
00:28:04INVESTMENT. THIS IS WHY EVERY
00:28:07OTHER DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD HAS FREE COLLEGE OR VERY, VERY CHEAP
00:28:10COLLEGE. AND IN MANY CASES, LIKE
00:28:13IN DENMARK OR IN GERMANY,
00:28:16THEY'LL PAY YOU TO GO TO
00:28:22COLLEGE. AND THESE COUNTRIES HAVE HIGHER RATES OF SOCIAL MOBILITY. THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS OR GET FROM THE MIDDLE
00:28:26CLASS, THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS. THEY HAVE STRONG SWEDEN. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MORE SOCIALIST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD. PEOPLE SAY, OH, IT'S GETTING MORE
00:28:30CONSERVATIVE. YEAH, RIGHT. LOOK AT THE ACTUAL POLICIES. THEY HAVE A HIGHER RATE OF
00:28:34ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAN THE UNITED STATES. WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T
00:28:36ALLOW MONOPOLIES USED TO BE, YOU
00:28:39KNOW, WHEN REAGAN WAS ELECTED,
00:28:42YOUR LOCAL MALL AND YOUR LOCAL
00:28:44DOWNTOWN, MAIN STREET WERE PRETTY MUCH ALL LOCALLY OWNED
00:28:47BUSINESSES, FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES. TODAY, THEY'RE ALL
00:28:50GONE. IT'S, IT'S NOTHING BUT BIG CHAINS. WHY? BECAUSE REAGAN
00:28:52IN 1983, ORDERED US, ORDERED THE
00:28:55DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO STOP ENFORCING THE ANTITRUST LAWS.
00:28:59AND NOBODY HAS PUT THEM BACK INTO PLACE OTHER THAN JOE BIDEN
00:29:02SINCE THEN. AND TRUMP JUST
00:29:06REVERSED EVERYTHING BIDEN DID.
00:29:06IT'S CRAZY. WE NEED SOCIALISM.
00:29:12>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. CALL 2028089925.
00:29:16>> YOU KNOW, SOCIALISM LIKE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, SOCIAL
00:29:17SECURITY, OUR POLICE AND FIRE
00:29:20DEPARTMENTS, OUR PUBLIC ROADS. YEAH. WE NEED.
00:29:24>> SOCIAL.
00:29:24>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
00:29:36>> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT, GEEKY
00:29:40SCIENCE FRIDAY VERSION NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL.
00:29:42YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
00:29:45COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID CLIMATE CHANGE BUILD THIS HEAT
00:29:49DOME? OVER 80 MILLION AMERICANS, MORE THAN 80 MILLION AMERICANS ARE UNDER AN EXTREME HEAT
00:29:52WARNING OR A HEAT ADVISORY. THIS WEEK. FORECASTERS CALL THIS HEAT
00:29:56DOME STEAMY EVEN BY LATE AUGUST
00:29:58STANDARDS. RECORD HEAT KEEPS
00:30:03PUNISHING THE SOUTH CENTRAL STATES AND SPREADS INTO THE SOUTHWEST BY MIDWEEK, WITH HIGHS WELL ABOVE 100 DEGREES IN PARTS
00:30:07OF ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO,
00:30:08TOPPING 110. THE HEAT INDEX HIT
00:30:11105 TO 115 ACROSS SOUTHERN
00:30:15ARIZONA, TEXAS, LOUISIANA AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. THE NIGHTS
00:30:18WON'T COOL DOWN EITHER, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BODY IS
00:30:22SUPPOSED TO RECOVER, MICHAEL WEHNER OF LAWRENCE BERKELEY
00:30:25NATIONAL LABORATORY, SAYS CLIMATE CHANGE HAS RAISED
00:30:28ORDINARY HEAT WAVES BY 3 TO 5°F.
00:30:32AMERICAN HEAT WAVES HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE 1980s. HEAT ALREADY
00:30:35KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN
00:30:37HURRICANES, WILDFIRES AND FLOODS COMBINED, AND THOSE DEATHS GET
00:30:41UNDERCOUNTED. AND TRUMP KEEPS CUTTING. THE VERY FORECASTERS
00:30:44WHO WARN US AND CLAIMING THAT
00:30:46IT'S ALL JUST A HOAX. BIG OIL
00:30:49DRAINED A LAKE MEAD'S WORTH OF WATER FROM THE WEST. NOW WE KNOW
00:30:52WHO DID IT. A NEW STUDY IN
00:30:55NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, EARTH AND
00:30:57ENVIRONMENT, FINDS THAT 122
00:31:00FOSSIL FUEL AND CEMENT COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT HALF
00:31:03THE WATER. CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
00:31:05STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN WEST.
00:31:08FROM 2014 TO 2024. WARMING CUT
00:31:11THE REGION'S SNOWPACK BY MORE THAN A THIRD, AND DROPPED STREAM
00:31:13FLOWS BY 13%. THE CARBON MAJORS
00:31:17SHARE OF THAT LOSS ADDS UP TO TRILLIONS OF GALLONS, ROUGHLY
00:31:20THE ENTIRE CAPACITY OF LAKE MEAD. IN THE LOWER COLORADO
00:31:24RIVER BASIN, STREAM FLOW FELL
00:31:2821%. 40 MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON THAT RIVER. COAUTHOR KALSHI PHILLIPS OF THE UNION OF
00:31:32CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SAYS THE COMPANIES, QUOTE, ENGAGED IN A
00:31:35CAMPAIGN OF DELAY AND DENIAL AND
00:31:37DECEPTION. CITIES AND STATES ARE
00:31:40ALREADY SUING. THE STUDY HANDS
00:31:42THEM THE PROOF IS THE SWEETENER
00:31:47IN YOUR GUM. RAISING YOUR HEART ATTACK. RISK. XYLITOL SHOWS UP
00:31:48IN SUGAR FREE GUM, CANDY, BAKED
00:31:53GOODS, AND TOOTHPASTE, AND IT'S SOLD AS A SAFE CHOICE. NOW, RESEARCH. NEW RESEARCH PRESENTED
00:31:56AT THE EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF
00:31:59CARDIOLOGY CONGRESS SAYS OTHERWISE. RESEARCHERS AT SHAKUR
00:32:02UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN BERLIN TRACKED ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
00:32:06ACROSS CANADIAN AND EUROPEAN STUDIES. AMONG CANADIAN
00:32:10PARTICIPANTS, THOSE CONSUMING THE MOST, XYLITOL HAD A 57%
00:32:13HIGHER RISK OF A MAJOR
00:32:15CARDIOVASCULAR EVENT OVER SIX YEARS, AND THE EUROPEAN GROUP.
00:32:19THE RISK RAN 18% HIGHER OVER 30
00:32:25YEARS. LEAD AUTHOR MARCO WITTKOWSKI SAYS FURTHER STUDIES ARE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY AS
00:32:27PRODUCT LEVELS KEEP CLIMBING. THIS IS OBSERVATIONAL WORK, SO
00:32:30IT CAN'T PROVE CAUSE. BUT
00:32:34REGULATORS CALL THESE SWEETENERS SAFE. DECADES AGO, AND NEVER
00:32:35WENT BACK TO CHECK. WHILE MANUFACTURERS KEPT INCREASING
00:32:39THE DOSES CAN A DIET SODA REALLY
00:32:42TRIPLE YOUR STOMACH CANCER RISK?
00:32:44MASS GENERAL BRIGHAM RESEARCHERS
00:32:48FOLLOWED 112,284 PEOPLE IN THE NURSES HEALTH STUDY AND THE
00:32:52HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW UP STUDY. FOR DECADES, PEOPLE WHO
00:32:54DRANK AT LEAST ONE SUGAR
00:32:57SWEETENED BEVERAGE A DAY HAD
00:32:592.45 TIMES THE RISK OF STOMACH CANCER, COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
00:33:02DRANK LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. AMONG WOMEN DRINKING MORE THAN
00:33:06ONE A DAY, THE RISK RAN MORE
00:33:09THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER. SODAS, FRUIT PUNCH, LEMONADE AND SPORT
00:33:12DRINKS ALL COUNTED. DIET SODAS
00:33:13SHOWED NO LINK AT ALL. SENIOR AUTHOR ANDREW CHAN SAYS THE RISK
00:33:17APPEARS MEANINGFUL HIGHER FOR
00:33:20REGULAR DRINKERS. STOMACH CANCER IS STILL RARE, AND THIS IS AN
00:33:23ASSOCIATION, NOT PROOF. BUT ROUGHLY 65% OF AMERICAN ADULTS
00:33:27DRINK ONE OF THESE EVERY DAY, AND THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY SPENDS
00:33:30MILLIONS. MAKING SURE THAT
00:33:34DOESN'T CHANGE. THE FDA APPROVES A PANCREATIC CANCER
00:33:35BREAKTHROUGH, PRICED AT $39,000
00:33:38A MONTH FOR 40 YEARS, SCIENTISTS
00:33:42CALLED THE KRAS GENE
00:33:46UNDRUGGABLE. IT DRIVES MORE THAN 90% OF PANCREATIC TUMORS, AND THE PROTEIN IS SO SMOOTH, THE
00:33:49DRUGS SLIDE RIGHT OFF IT. ON
00:33:51WEDNESDAY, THE FDA APPROVED
00:33:54DARAXONRASIB SOLD AS ROB HIAASEN, A ONCE DAILY PILL FROM
00:33:58REVOLUTION MEDICINES. THE FDA CLEARED AT SIX AND A HALF MONTHS
00:34:02EARLY UNDER A NEW EXPEDITED REVIEW, FIVE WEEKS AFTER THE
00:34:05COMPANY FILED IN A PHASE THREE
00:34:06TRIAL OF 500 PATIENTS WITH METASTATIC PANCREATIC CANCER,
00:34:10MEDIAN SURVIVAL WENT FROM 6.7
00:34:12MONTHS ON CHEMOTHERAPY TO 13.2
00:34:15MONTHS ON THE PILL. IT CUT THE
00:34:19RISK OF DEATH BY 60%. MD ANDERSON, SUBCOMPACT COMPARED
00:34:22KRAS S TO A SHINY BALL. BUT HERE'S THE CATCH. REVOLUTION
00:34:26MEDICINE PRICED IT AT $39,800
00:34:29FOR A 30 DAY SUPPLY. THAT'S A REAL MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH.
00:34:32LOCKED BEHIND A PRICE. NOBODY
00:34:34WITHOUT GOOD INSURANCE CAN TOUCH. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE
00:34:38OCEANS, THE FORESTS, AND THE
00:34:40WHEAT ALL BREAK AT ONCE? BILL MCKIBBEN LAID IT OUT THIS WEEK.
00:34:43THE GLOBAL SEA SURFACE JUST HIT
00:34:46THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED, AND ONE CANADIAN
00:34:48SCIENTIST FIGURES. AUGUST 21st
00:34:51WAS LIKELY THE WARMEST OCEAN
00:34:53SINCE THE LAST INTERGLACIAL
00:34:56125,000 YEARS AGO. 42% OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN IS IN A MARINE
00:35:00HEAT WAVE RIGHT NOW. CORAL IS
00:35:02BLEACHING AGAIN, AND REEFS FEED 500 MILLION PEOPLE OUT WEST. HOT
00:35:05FIRES ARE TURNING CONIFER
00:35:07FORESTS INTO SHRUBLAND FOR GOOD,
00:35:10STUDIES SAY 40% OF WESTERN
00:35:11CONIFERS COULD BE GONE BY 2100.
00:35:16SOME WESTERN STATES GET 75% OF
00:35:18THEIR WATER FROM SNOWMELT, AND THE WHEAT IS FAILING. AMERICA IS HEADING FOR ITS WORST WHEAT
00:35:22HARVEST IN 50 YEARS, ONE NEW STUDY SAYS. THREE DEGREES OF
00:35:26WARMING COULD TRIPLE GLOBAL WHEAT PRICES. MCKIBBIN'S POINT
00:35:29IS SIMPLE POLITICS IS A SUBSET OF PHYSICS. YOU CAN LIE ABOUT A
00:35:32LOT. A LOT OF THINGS. BUT WHEAT
00:35:38IS REAL. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS TODAY. FRIDAY, AUGUST 28th,
00:35:402026. I'M TOM HARTMANN.
00:35:50>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M.
00:35:53EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
00:35:56CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
00:35:59C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR
00:36:03LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
00:36:05COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
00:36:08SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
00:36:09COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
00:36:12COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
00:36:14C-SPAN. TWO. SUNDAY ON C-SPAN'S
00:36:22Q&A. THREE TIME PULITZER PRIZE WINNING NEW YORK TIMES
00:36:26PHOTOGRAPHER DOUG MILLS REFLECTS ON DECADES COVERING AMERICAN
00:36:29POLITICS. HE TALKS ABOUT PHOTOGRAPHING MULTIPLE
00:36:33PRESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE 1992 CLINTON-GORE CAMPAIGN, PRESIDENT
00:36:36GEORGE W BUSH ON 9/11, AND CAPTURING THE ATTEMPTED
00:36:40ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
00:36:42IN 2024, WHICH EARNED HIM HIS
00:36:45THIRD PULITZER PRIZE. >> I'VE LISTENED TO HIS SPEECH
00:36:47ON THE CAMPAIGN HUNDREDS OF
00:36:50TIMES, AND I KNEW THAT WHEN HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A CHART, I
00:36:53THOUGHT, WOW, THE CHART, THE CHARTS. TYPICALLY, AT THE END OF
00:36:57THE SPEECH, AND THAT REGISTERED RIGHT AWAY WITH ME. AND SO THEN
00:36:59WHEN HE GESTURED OVER TOWARDS
00:37:02THE CHART, THAT'S WHEN THE SHOTS RANG OUT. AND WHEN HE WAS
00:37:05GESTURING, I WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT AS CLOSE AS WE ARE, BUT MAYBE 4
00:37:09OR 5FT BACK. AND I HAD MY LENS ON HIM. I WAS TRYING TO GET
00:37:12SOMETHING OF HE AND THE FLAG. AND THEN WHEN HE GESTURED TO THE
00:37:16RIGHT AND THE SHOTS RANG OUT, I WAS ACTUALLY TAKING PICTURES. AND THEN I JUST KEPT MY FINGER
00:37:20ON THE SHUTTER. AS SOON AS I HEARD.
00:37:23>> THE FDA HAD NOT APPROVED THE
00:37:26NOT NEW 2020 627 COVID VACCINE, THE ONE THAT IS OUT THERE. IF
00:37:29YOU HAVE GOTTEN A VACCINE. WE HAD A CALLER YESTERDAY WHO GOT A
00:37:32VACCINE, GOT A SHOT AT COVID SHOT YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE AT THEIR LOCAL PHARMACY. AND,
00:37:36YOU KNOW, IT WAS LAST YEAR'S
00:37:39VACCINE, WHICH IS THE 25, 26 VACCINE. SO SOMEBODY TELLS YOU,
00:37:42YES, I'VE GOT THE 26 VACCINE.
00:37:45ASK THEM, IS THAT THE 25, 26
00:37:48VACCINE? BECAUSE THEY DO IT, YOU
00:37:49KNOW, KIND OF ACROSS THE WINTER,
00:37:52RIGHT? IS THAT THE 2020 526 VACCINE, OR IS IT THE 2627
00:37:55VACCINE? BECAUSE THE 2627 VACCINE IS THE ONE THAT THEY
00:37:59DEVELOPED WAY BACK IN MARCH. AND
00:38:04BOB KENNEDY AND HIS FRIENDS FINALLY GOT AROUND TO APPROVING
00:38:08IT YESTERDAY. THE PROBLEM THAT
00:38:10WE HAVE IS THAT THE PREVIOUS
00:38:13VACCINES WERE ONLY APPROVED, FULLY APPROVED, FOR PEOPLE OVER
00:38:1665, OR PEOPLE WITH UNDERLYING
00:38:19CONDITIONS. THIS WAS A CHANGE
00:38:21FROM THE OLD. ANYBODY CAN GET
00:38:23THE VACCINE, BUT NOW WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS VACCINE IS
00:38:26APPROVED FOR, BECAUSE THE CDC
00:38:29ADVISORY PANEL THAT MAKES THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HAS BEEN
00:38:32BASICALLY SHUT DOWN, BECAUSE BOB TRIED TO PACK IT WITH ANTI-VAX
00:38:36QUACKS. AND A FEDERAL JUDGE
00:38:37STOPPED HIM. SO NOT ONLY ARE
00:38:42THERE NO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS VACCINE, IT'S JUST COMPLETE
00:38:45CONFUSION. BUT ALSO BECAUSE THE
00:38:48PANEL HAS NOT RECOMMENDED IT. YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T
00:38:51HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO IT'S
00:38:53GOING TO DEPEND ON YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY. SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE SAYING,
00:38:56YEAH, WE'LL PAY FOR THE VACCINE BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHEAPER THAN PAYING FOR A
00:39:00HOSPITAL VISIT. OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THE VACCINE
00:39:03BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT
00:39:04DOESN'T SAY WE HAVE TO. SO YOU
00:39:08MIGHT WANT TO CHECK BEFORE YOU GET YOUR SHOT. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE MANUFACTURERS
00:39:12WHO'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS STUFF FOR MONTHS, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN SELLING AND
00:39:16SHIPPING IT TO OTHER COUNTRIES, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE SINCE THE
00:39:19EARLY SUMMER. UM, THEY'RE,
00:39:23THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHIPPING TO PHARMACIES. AND
00:39:26SO IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK. SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MIXED NEWS, BUT GENERALLY
00:39:30SPEAKING, GOOD NEWS. AND THIS IS
00:39:32THE NEW MRNA VACCINE. SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY. ANYTHING
00:39:36GOES WEEKEND HERE. MARK TAYLOR CANFIELD IN SEATTLE. HEY, MARK,
00:39:39WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
00:39:41>> HEY TOM. IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO
00:39:44YOU AT OUR NONPROFIT NEWS ORGANIZATION, DEMOCRACY, I WATCH
00:39:46NEWS, THAT'S DEMOCRACY, WATCH NEWS.ORG. AND AT MY YOUTUBE
00:39:50CHANNEL, WE'RE FOLLOWING A RECALL EFFORT HERE IN SEATTLE
00:39:53AGAINST OUR DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST MAYOR, KATIE WILSON. YOU'RE KIDDING. MEMBERS OF THE
00:39:56COMMUNITY. YEAH. TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE STARTED THE
00:40:00PROCESS. SHE HASN'T EVEN BEEN IN OFFICE FOR A YEAR YET, CITING
00:40:03HER FIRING OF POLICE CHIEF SHAWN BARNES AFTER A SHOOTING INCIDENT AT THE AT THE BITE OF SEATTLE
00:40:07FOOD AND MUSIC FESTIVAL. AND TOM, UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS A
00:40:10WITNESS TO THAT SHOOTING WHERE THREE PEOPLE WERE KILLED. AND IT
00:40:13WAS A TRAGIC INCIDENT. BUT WILSON AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
00:40:17WERE CRITICIZED FOR WAITING FIVE
00:40:19HOURS BEFORE CONDUCTING AN OFFICIAL PRESS BRIEFING.
00:40:22MEANWHILE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE WAS OUT OF TOWN AT A CONFERENCE, ALTHOUGH BOB BARNES AND PRAMILA
00:40:26JAYAPAL, CONGRESSWOMAN JAYAPAL,
00:40:28SHOWED UP, THE POLICE CHIEF WAS
00:40:30OUT OF TOWN. UM, ACTUALLY, SHE
00:40:33WAS ALSO THERE, ALSO CITING WILSON'S DECISION TO SHUT OFF
00:40:36SOME OF THE CCD SECURITY CAMERAS IN PART OF THE CITY NEAR PIONEER
00:40:40SQUARE. UH, BUT SHE WAS ACTUALLY
00:40:42PRAISED BY SOME PRIVACY GROUPS ON THAT MOVE. BUT THE SEATTLE
00:40:45POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE DOWNTOWN SEATTLE ASSOCIATION
00:40:48WANT THEM TURNED BACK ON. SO HERE'S THE.
00:40:50>> RIGHT WINGERS GOING AFTER HER.
00:40:53>> YEAH. HERE'S THE DEAL. A KING COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT IS
00:40:56SCHEDULED TO DECIDE IF THE RECALL CAN GO FORWARD ON AUGUST
00:40:5831st. AND LOCAL MEDIA, INCLUDING
00:41:01SINCLAIR BROADCASTING, HAS BEEN CITING A POLL COMMISSIONED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH
00:41:05PURPORTEDLY SHOWS A LOSS OF SUPPORT FOR WILSON. BUT
00:41:07PROGRESSIVES STILL SUPPORT HER
00:41:10BY 72%. AND BY THE WAY, TOM, THE
00:41:12POLL SHOWS THAT ONLY 10% OF
00:41:14RESPONDENTS SELF-IDENTIFIED AS
00:41:18REPUBLICANS IN SEATTLE, AND THAT POLL WAS CONDUCTED BY THE FULCRUM STRATEGY GROUP. SO,
00:41:21YEAH, THE RIGHT WINGERS ARE
00:41:24AGAINST HER. AND THEY WERE FROM THE BEGINNING. THEY DO NOT WANT
00:41:26A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST MAYOR,
00:41:30AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO AFTER HER ANY WAY THEY CAN. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO GO FORWARD. I THINK THE JUDGE IS
00:41:33GOING TO DECIDE THAT SHE HASN'T VIOLATED ANY LAWS OR ANY ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES. AND SO
00:41:37I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DROPPED. >> WELL, THANKS FOR THE REPORT, MARK. I WAS VERY PLEASED TO MEET
00:41:40HER. YOU KNOW, I GAVE A SPEECH
00:41:43IN SEATTLE, UH, RIGHT AFTER
00:41:46RIGHT AFTER SHE WAS ELECTED. SHE HADN'T BEEN INAUGURATED YET, OR
00:41:48WHATEVER THE WORD IS SWORN IN
00:41:51YET. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE AND I WERE ON STAGE TOGETHER, TALKING FOR A WHILE AFTER MY
00:41:55SPEECH. IT WAS GREAT MEETING
00:41:56HER. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY HER
00:41:59>> YES, I'VE KNOWN HER FOR YEARS, AND SHE'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PRESS FREEDOM,
00:42:03WHICH IS ONE OF MY MAIN ISSUES.
00:42:07BY THE WAY, TOM, SHE WAS, UH, SHE WAS INAUGURATED, SHE WAS
00:42:10SWORN IN BY THE TRANSIT FERRY. THIS ELDERLY LADY THAT DRESSES
00:42:14UP AS A FERRY AND HANGS OUT AT ALL THE BUS STOPS AND CLEANS
00:42:17THEM UP FOR PEOPLE. AND PROMOTES
00:42:19TRANSIT IN SEATTLE. YEAH. SHE
00:42:21WAS THE KATIE WAS THE CO-FOUNDER
00:42:26OF THE TRANSIT RIDERS UNION HERE IN SEATTLE. SO SHE HAS A LONG HISTORY WITH SUPPORTING MASS
00:42:29TRANSIT AS WELL. >> YEAH, SHE, SHE JUST STRUCK ME AS A REALLY, REALLY SMART,
00:42:32REALLY COMPETENT PERSON. SO MARK, THANKS. THANKS A LOT FOR
00:42:36THE, FOR THE REPORT. GREAT, GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU, JOE, IN OKLAHOMA CITY. HEY, JOE, WHAT'S
00:42:40ON YOUR MIND TODAY >> FANTASTIC SHOW. I LOVE
00:42:44LISTENING TO YOUR CALLERS BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES MY MIND
00:42:45GO. I'VE GOT TO LOOK THAT UP
00:42:51AND GET FURTHER INTO IT. I DID WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY LISTENING THAT THE COUNTRIES
00:42:54THAT ARE LITERALLY, AS WE SPEAK,
00:42:58LINING THE TRUMP FAMILY POCKETS
00:43:00THROUGH CRYPTO AND, UH, TRADE AGREEMENTS AND FRANCHISES. AND,
00:43:04YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING
00:43:07THEIR HOTELS OVERSEAS, ALL OF THOSE COUNTRIES PRACTICE SHARIA
00:43:10LAW. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF
00:43:13THE THINGS THE GOP RUNS AROUND SHARIA LAW. WE GOT TO PASS LAWS
00:43:16SO WE DON'T HAVE SHARIA LAW
00:43:18TAKE OVER. WHEN BASICALLY 1% OF
00:43:21THE POPULATION IS MUSLIM, ABOUT HALF OF THEM PRACTICE SHARIA LAW
00:43:24IN THE HOME. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BAIT AND
00:43:27SWITCH. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
00:43:30DOES ON THEIR VOTERS, WHO DON'T PAY ATTENTION THAT SOMEDAY WE'RE
00:43:34GOING TO BE UNDER SHARIA LAW. IT'S COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. BUT TRUMP TAKES THEIR MONEY DAY IN
00:43:38AND DAY OUT. UH, THE OTHER THING
00:43:40I DID WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF,
00:43:43KIND OF TO PUT A LINE IN THE
00:43:44SAND, IF YOU WILL, THE FAR THEY
00:43:48THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE PROPERTY AGAIN.
00:43:52>> SO SOME OF THEM ARE JUST COMING RIGHT OUT AND SAYING IT. I MEAN, THERE WAS ONE OF THE
00:43:56BILLIONAIRES, MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, CAME OUT AND SAID THAT
00:43:59WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT WAS
00:44:02>> YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR A WHILE. AND THEN ON
00:44:05THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE FAR LEFT, THEY WANT US TO SPEND MONEY AT
00:44:09HOME, NOT ON LIES TO WAR THAT
00:44:14END UP BOMBING CHILDREN. AND THEY WANTED JESUS STYLE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. >> YES.
00:44:17>> BUT, TOM, I WANT YOU TO. >> THE SO-CALLED LEFT. >> I WANT YOU. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
00:44:21I WANT YOU TO TALK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT ONE PART OF THE DATA CENTER STORY THAT'S NOT BEING
00:44:25TOLD. NOW, BY THE WAY, ALL THESE FUNNY LITTLE NAMES, THEY'RE
00:44:29PUTTING ALL THESE DATA CENTERS UNDER. THEY'RE CALLING IT THE
00:44:31PUMPKIN. THEY'RE CALLING IT THE
00:44:33CLOVERLEAF. THESE ARE ALL HIDDEN
00:44:38LLC CORPORATIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SEVEN COMPANIES. AND
00:44:41THEY FOUND THIS OUT BECAUSE THEY, WHEN THEY REGISTER THEIR
00:44:45GAS GENERATORS, THEY HAVE TO PUT
00:44:46IT IN THEIR ACTUAL NAME. SO
00:44:50WHILE WE HAVE LIKE 4700 DATA
00:44:51CENTERS, NOW, UH, A VAST
00:44:55MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ORACLE.
00:44:58ANOTHER EPSTEIN PERSON, RIGHT.
00:45:03UH, XAI META AMAZON, WHO JUST
00:45:05LAID OFF 16,000 PEOPLE. SO AI
00:45:11COULD DO THEIR JOB. MICROSOFT.
00:45:14AND, UH, JUST A HANDFUL WITH ALL THESE FANCY NAMES LIKE, HEY,
00:45:17PATCH. WELL, IT MUST BE GOOD.
00:45:19IT'S HEY. YEAH, BUT ACTUALLY,
00:45:24IT'S JUST AN LLC BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S AMAZON OR GOOGLE.
00:45:28>> YEAH. IT'S LIKE BLUE WASHING. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW,
00:45:31PRETENDING. OH, IT'S. YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE WITH YOU. YEAH.
00:45:34NO NO NO NO NO. EXCELLENT POINT JOE. THANK YOU. YEAH. WELL SAID.
00:45:38THANK YOU. JERRY AND VENTURA,
00:45:41VENICE, CALIFORNIA. HEY, JERRY.
00:45:43WHAT'S UP
00:45:49>> IMPEACHMENT OF WHO TRUMP AND VANCE TOGETHER.
00:45:54>> OKAY
00:45:57>> CAN'T DO THEM TOGETHER. TRUE. PUT MASSIE IN THE HOUSE OF
00:46:00REPRESENTATIVES AS AS THE LEADER
00:46:02OF THE HOUSE, HE BECOMES
00:46:05PRESIDENT. AND THEN WE HAVE
00:46:07SOMEBODY TO RUN AGAINST. AND IF
00:46:09YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE
00:46:12DEMOCRATS AND AIPAC GET IN CHARGE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
00:46:16UH, GOD BLESS US. >> YEAH. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU,
00:46:20JERRY APEC'S INFLUENCE OVER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS, IS, UH,
00:46:24REALLY WANING FAST. DEMOCRATS ARE STARTING TO RUN FROM AIPAC,
00:46:27DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE BEEN TAKING AIPAC MONEY FOR YEARS AND YEARS
00:46:30ARE STARTING TO RUN FROM AIPAC. OVER 70% OF DEMOCRATS NOW WANT
00:46:34US TO CUT OFF FUNDING TO ISRAEL. PEOPLE ARE JUST HORRIFIED BY
00:46:37THIS GENOCIDE IN GAZA. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S ABSOLUTELY
00:46:42DISGUSTING. AND, YOU KNOW, AND NOW THEY'RE GOING AFTER OTHER
00:46:44COUNTRIES AS WELL. THEY'RE
00:46:46GOING AFTER LEBANON. SO, JERRY, I GOT TO RUN. BUT THANKS FOR THE
00:46:49CALL. SPOT ON. 45 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST A
00:46:52MINUTE. IT'S THE THOM HARTMANN
00:46:56PROGRAM, DEFENDING AMERICA FROM THE WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION. WE'LL BE RIGHT.
00:46:59>> BACK
00:47:10>> LISTENING TO THOM HARTMANN. VISIT THOM HARTMANN.COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVE.
00:47:14>> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF LAKE
00:47:18AMERICA? THIS IS SO PATHETIC. OH, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO
00:47:22NAME IT. RIGHT. WE'LL GET INTO
00:47:23THAT IN A BIT. SO HANG ON.
00:47:26>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
00:47:37>> SIGNAL HILL, CALIFORNIA, LISTENING ON KPFK. HEY, MARK, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
00:47:41>> WELL, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I
00:47:43WENT TO A, UH, ELECTRICAL
00:47:45CONVENTION CEO OF TESLA. UM,
00:47:53PHD, GAVE A TALK ON, HE'S
00:47:55WORKING ON A SYSTEM TO REDUCE
00:47:58THE HEAT IN THE POWER SUPPLIES
00:48:00FOR AI BY A FACTOR OF TEN, A FACTOR OF TEN. AND HE GAVE THE
00:48:04CIRCUIT AND EXPLAINED HOW HE WAS
00:48:06GOING TO KEEP THE TRANSFORMERS,
00:48:09UH, FROM HEATING UP, ESPECIALLY
00:48:11WITH NO LOAD. ANYHOW, UH THAT
00:48:16MAYBE THAT'S, THAT COULD BE A RED HERRING, BUT ASSUMING IT'S
00:48:20NOT, I DOUBT THEY'LL SHRINK THE
00:48:22POWER SUPPLY. TEN, TEN FOLD.
00:48:25THEY'LL PROBABLY INCREASE THE BUILDINGS TENFOLD. >> YEAH, WELL, IT'S HARD TO SAY.
00:48:29I MEAN, JUST, JUST THE INVENTION
00:48:33AND WIDESPREAD DISTRIBUTION OF LED LIGHT BULBS, FOR EXAMPLE,
00:48:36HAS DRAMATICALLY REDUCED ELECTRICAL CONSUMPTION EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA. AND
00:48:39YOU'LL RECALL, REPUBLICANS FOUGHT THAT LIKE CRAZY. OH, WE
00:48:43WANT INCANDESCENT BULBS. YOU
00:48:44KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S BUT WHAT WAS
00:48:48HIS WHAT WAS HIS SCIENTIFIC RATIONALE? DO YOU DO YOU KNOW
00:48:52WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO? I MEAN, I'M AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. I WAS AT ONE TIME.
00:48:56IT'S WHAT I STUDIED IN COLLEGE. SO.
00:48:58>> YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. HE
00:49:03HAD A METHOD OF, OF THE TRANSFORMERS. YOU KNOW, THEY PUT OUT A LOT OF HEAT. EVEN IF YOU
00:49:07DON'T HAVE A LOAD ON THEM.
00:49:08SURE. AND IT WAS A METHOD OF
00:49:11REDUCING THE FREQUENCY, WHICH IS, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU EASILY.
00:49:15>> AND WELL, YOU CAN ONLY RUN A
00:49:16TRANSFORMER ON AC. SO THERE IS
00:49:21A, THERE IS A FREQUENCY, TYPICALLY 60HZ. YOU KNOW, IN OUR POWER SYSTEM. SO. >> UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD,
00:49:24UNDERSTOOD. AND, UH, IT, YOU
00:49:26KNOW, HE EXPLAINED IT IN A MANNER THAT SEEMED TO MAKE
00:49:30SENSE. AND THEN HE GOT CUT SHORT
00:49:31BY THE NEXT SPEAKER. BUT, UH,
00:49:34INTERESTING. IT WAS JUST AN INTERESTING WRINKLE IN THE AI.
00:49:38UH, FABRIC. YEAH. THAT MAYBE YOU KIND OF GOT TO THINK WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING DOWN THE
00:49:41ROAD. >> YEAH. THAT'S FASCINATING. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. MARK,
00:49:44THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP ON THAT. AND THANKS FOR THE CALL. JOHN.
00:49:46IN NEWPORT, OREGON. HEY, JOHN,
00:49:51WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
00:49:51>> HI TO YOU ABOUT THREE WEEKS
00:49:56AGO, AND I MENTIONED THE OF A
00:50:01QUARTER HOLIDAY THAT WE WOULD
00:50:02CALL NO KINGS DAY. MHM. ANYHOW,
00:50:08I WENT OUT ON THE CORNER OF HIGHWAY 20 AND 101 AND STOOD
00:50:12WHERE I USUALLY DO WITH
00:50:15INDIVISIBLE WAVES. A CENTRAL OREGON COAST VERSION OF IT. AND
00:50:19I MENTIONED THAT I HAD CALLED
00:50:21YOU AND WAS TRYING TO PROMOTE
00:50:24THIS IDEA. AND THEY SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU WRITE IT UP AND
00:50:28WE'LL ALL GIVE YOU A LETTER TO
00:50:35AMERICA. ONLY A PAGE. TWO SIDES,
00:50:41HANDWRITTEN. IT TAKES A MINUTE. >> WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST, JOHN,
00:50:45THAT YOU THROW UP A WEB PAGE OR SOMETHING, AND THEN YOU CAN COME ON THE AIR AND JUST MENTION THE
00:50:48URL. I'M NOT GOING TO DO YOUR PUBLICITY FOR YOU, BUT I'M HAPPY TO.
00:50:52>> LET YOU. OKAY. WELL, LET ME
00:50:54TELL YOU THAT MAYBE TOMORROW
00:50:59IT'LL BE ON INDIVISIBLE WAVES. UH-UH. WEBSITE. >> OKAY, COOL. WHAT? ONCE IT IS,
00:51:03CALL BACK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LET EVERYBODY KNOW. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT
00:51:07IDEA. >> OKAY. AMERICA COULD, YOU
00:51:10KNOW, THERE'S ONE THING ABOUT A
00:51:13DAY OFF. EVERYBODY GETS ONE.
00:51:15IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR OF THEM. HE
00:51:17ONLY GETS ONE, TWO. >> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.
00:51:20JOHN. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. THAT'S. THAT'S GREAT. I'M
00:51:22IMPRESSED. THAT'S YOU'RE YOU'RE
00:51:25THE REAL DEAL. THANK YOU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. IT'S 49 MINUTES
00:51:28PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN JUST A.
00:51:31>> MINUTE
00:51:32>> [MUSIC]
00:51:41[MUSIC] [MUSIC]
00:51:51>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING OUR PROGRAM AND FOR REACHING OUT
00:51:55TO OUR STATIONS AND SPONSORS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE
00:51:58LISTENING. IT REALLY MEANS A LOT
00:52:00TO US. AND WELCOME BACK. TEN
00:52:03MINUTES BEFORE THE HOUR, PICKING UP YOUR CALLS. ALFREDO IN
00:52:07MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA. HEY, ALFREDO, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:52:10>> HEY. HI, TOM. I APOLOGIZE,
00:52:12I'M GOING FEEL FREE. YOU DON'T MIND?
00:52:16>> NO PROBLEM.
00:52:18>> YEAH . HAVE HAD
00:52:28>> A TEMPORARY TRUMP EXECUTIVE
00:52:32ORDER ABOUT THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THE SAME JUDGE. IN FACT, JUDGE
00:52:36TALLEY, I THINK, OR TALIA. YES.
00:52:39>> YEAH. YEAH. COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT AND EDUCATE
00:52:42YOUR LISTENERS ABOUT THIS? TOM. >> SURE. WELL, WHAT HAPPENED,
00:52:46ALFREDO, IS THAT THE JUDGE JUST
00:52:49REAFFIRMED WHAT SHE HAD SAID BEFORE, WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:52:52THIS IS BASICALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THIS IS THIS
00:52:55IS NOT WHAT THE LAW SAYS, THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN CAN IMPOSE HIS
00:52:58WILL ON VOTING, AND THAT THE POST OFFICE CAN BE INVOLVED IN
00:53:02THE VOTING PROCESS. NOW, IF IF
00:53:04THEY DO PULL THIS OFF, AND IF THEY DO GET THE POST OFFICE IN
00:53:08THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS, THEN,
00:53:12UM, YOU KNOW, TO GET YOUR BALLOT
00:53:16INTO THE STATE, YOU HAVE IN MOST STATES, YOU HAVE DROP BOXES. THE
00:53:19PROBLEM IS GETTING THE BALLOT FROM THE STATE TO YOU. IF YOUR
00:53:23MAIL MAN OR WOMAN REFUSES TO DELIVER IT TO YOU. SO, YOU KNOW,
00:53:27BUT LET'S ALL BE VERY CLEAR WHAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO HERE
00:53:30IS JUST PREVENT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM VOTING, PARTICULARLY IN IN BLUE CITIES. THAT'S THE BOTTOM
00:53:34LINE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:53:38UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ILLEGAL. AND IT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN DOES. IN FACT, PUTIN PROBABLY WAS THE GUY WHO
00:53:41TOLD HIM HOW TO DO IT. MARK IN
00:53:43SOUTH BEND, INDIANA. HEY, MARK,
00:53:45WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
00:53:54>> THE THIRD HOUR TO TALK ABOUT
00:53:56THE AMOUNT OF WEALTH THE BILLIONAIRES DON'T PAY IN
00:54:00TAXES. AND. AND THE CAP ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND THAT. AND WHAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME AGAIN?
00:54:04>> I THINK THAT WAS ME. OH, OKAY. ABOUT IT.
00:54:08>> WELL, I. GOT I WANT TO ADD MY
00:54:10TWO CENTS TO IT. OKAY. LET'S SAY. >> ALEX LAWSON, BY THE WAY, WILL
00:54:14BE WITH US IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES
00:54:16OR 15 MINUTES. AND HE'S THE THE PRESIDENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS. AND THAT'S HIS POSITION,
00:54:20TOO. BUT BACK TO YOU, MARK.
00:54:27>> DEMOCRATS AND PROGRESSIVES
00:54:28GET HOLD OF THE CONGRESS AND
00:54:34CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION AFTER TWO YEARS. AND LET'S SAY THE
00:54:36DEMOCRATS ARE TEETERING ON 60
00:54:38SEATS, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT A
00:54:40MAJORITY OF 60 MEMBERS IN THE
00:54:43HOUSE. AND THEY COME UP WITH A
00:54:47EXTENDING THE SOCIAL SECURITY
00:54:49FROM LIKE 175,000 TO 10 MILLION,
00:54:53YOU KNOW, WHICH WILL MAKE IT
00:54:54MORE. HOW ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY?
00:54:57>> INFINITE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHY
00:54:58SHOULDN'T JEFF BEZOS PAY TWO.?
00:55:01>> RIGHT NOW, THE THING OF IT IS TIME. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO TRADE. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO
00:55:05SAY, OKAY, IF YOU TAKE OFF THE CAP, SOCIAL SECURITY AND YOU
00:55:08WANT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT AND, AND SOCIAL SECURITY, GOOD FOR
00:55:12LIFE. WE WANT THE MARGINAL TAX
00:55:14RATE REDUCED FROM 37 TO 33%. >> OH THAT'S NICE.
00:55:17>> THEY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> THE MARGINAL TAX RATE SHOULD
00:55:20BE OVER 50% LIKE IT IS IN MOST
00:55:22OTHER DEMOCRACIES. THE TOP RATE, THE RATE FOR THE FOR THE
00:55:26MORBIDLY RICH.
00:55:33>> WE ARE, UH, A SOCIALISTIC
00:55:36DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, WHETHER. >> THIS IS EISENHOWER ISM, MARK.
00:55:40I MEAN, DWIGHT EISENHOWER HAD A 90% TOP INCOME TAX RATE FOR THE
00:55:43MORBIDLY RICH AND A 50% RATE FOR CORPORATIONS. AND HE EMBRACED
00:55:47IT. AND HE WAS A REPUBLICAN. UH,
00:55:51AND THAT'S WHAT BUILT THE MIDDLE CLASS. WHEN, WHEN REAGAN DROPPED
00:55:53OUR TOP INCOME TAX RATE FROM
00:55:5674%, LBJ DROPPED IT DOWN TO 74, 74%. WHEN REAGAN DROPPED IT FROM
00:55:5974% DOWN TO 25% FOR ONE YEAR,
00:56:01AND THEN UP TO 28%. THAT'S WHEN
00:56:04WE SAW THE BEGINNING OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS. SO I'M WITH YOU.
00:56:08I'M WITH YOU. THANK YOU. MARK. THANKS. THANKS FOR THE CALL. LYNN IN LOS ANGELES. HEY, LYNN,
00:56:12THANKS FOR LISTENING TO KPFK. WHAT'S UP?
00:56:15>> HI. I HAVE A LITTLE TIP ON
00:56:18PRONUNCIATION. AS A FORMER ESL TEACHER, I'VE TAUGHT LANGUAGES
00:56:22AND LEARN LANGUAGES, SO, FOR
00:56:25EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS STUDYING SPANISH THERE, THERE'S AN
00:56:29EXPRESSION FOR YOU, AND IT'S SPELLED PARATI. AND SO MOST
00:56:32ENGLISH SPEAKERS WILL SAY PA TI PARA TI. MY SPANISH TEACHER
00:56:36SAID, WAIT A MINUTE. GO IN THE KITCHEN, PUT ON SOME WATER, AND
00:56:39MAKE A POT OF TEA, MAKE A POT OF I GO POT A TEA POT OF TEA. WHEN
00:56:42I STARTED SAYING THAT, THEN I KNEW THE PRONUNCIATION CORRECTLY
00:56:46IN SPANISH. UH. AND THEN, UH, IN
00:56:50UH, MY CLASS RECENTLY, I'VE TAUGHT SOME STUDENTS FROM UKRAINE, UKRAINE. AND I ASKED
00:56:54THEM, WHAT IS THE PRONUNCIATION
00:56:56OF THE CAPITAL OF YOUR COUNTRY?
00:57:00AND HERE'S. WELL, THEY TOLD ME AND I LEARNED, UH, AN ENGLISH
00:57:03EQUIVALENT. SO IF YOU KNOW, STEVIE WONDER, THE SONGS IN THE
00:57:06KEY OF LIFE, SAY IT TO YOURSELF.
00:57:09SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE, THEN TAKE OFF SONGS, SONGS IN THE KEY
00:57:12OF. KYIV. KYIV IS HOW YOU SHOULD
00:57:16PRONOUNCE THE CAPITAL OF UKRAINE
00:57:19KYIV, AND IT'S NOT KYIV, LIKE THE RUSSIANS. AND THEN THE THIRD
00:57:23ONE THAT PEOPLE MISPRONOUNCE ALL THE TIME IS WHEN THEY SAY
00:57:27NUCLEAR, NOT CORRECT. SO IF YOU
00:57:31IF IT'S CLOUDY TODAY AND MAYBE.
00:57:33BUT TOMORROW, IT'S GOING TO BE A
00:57:36NEW CLEAR DAY. JUST SAY NEW CLEAR AND YOU WILL PRONOUNCE
00:57:40NUCLEAR CORRECTLY. AND THAT'S IT. >> WELL, THANK YOU, LYNN, FOR
00:57:43OUR FOR OUR VOCABULARY ENHANCING
00:57:47TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. SCOTT IN PORTLAND, OREGON. HEY, SCOTT,
00:57:49WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:57:53>> GOT ANOTHER LITTLE WORDPLAY THING. UH, I LIKE USING THE
00:57:57PHRASE, EVERY ACCUSATION IS A CONFESSION. AND CERTAINLY TRUE.
00:58:01WELL YEAH, AND, AND MOST OF THE
00:58:04REPUBLICAN PARTY. UH, BUT I THOUGHT, IS THERE A KIND OF A
00:58:07CONDENSED WAY? SO I JUST MASHED UP THE TWO WORDS AND CAME UP
00:58:10WITH ACCUSATION. AND I THOUGHT.
00:58:14>> YOU FASHION. >> THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF FUN. SO YOU CAN USE IT SORT OF AS A
00:58:17NOUN. SAY, OH, YEAH, HE'S THE
00:58:20KING OF FASHION. YEAH. BUT, UH, AND I THOUGHT, OH, I WAS PROUD
00:58:23OF MYSELF. AND I GOOGLED IT AND IT, AND IT IS ACTUALLY A THING.
00:58:26IT IS ACTUALLY, UH.
00:58:28>> SOMEBODY GOT THERE AHEAD OF YOU.
00:58:32>> I GUESS WAS, UH, THOUGHT I'D PASS THAT ON BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF FUN. >> YEAH. SO WHEN, WHEN TRUMP
00:58:36SAYS, UH, THOSE LIBERALS WANT TO TEAR DOWN AMERICA, WELL, HE'S
00:58:39ACTUALLY TEARING DOWN AMERICA. IT'S A CONFESSION. >> HE'S EXACTLY. YEAH.
00:58:43>> DESTROYING OUR MIDDLE CLASS. HE'S DESTROYING OUR REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD. HE'S
00:58:47DESTROYING OUR BUILDINGS AND OUR MONUMENTS. IT'S SLAPPING HIS
00:58:49NAME AND PUTTING GOLD PAINT ON
00:58:52EVERYTHING. IT'S CRAZY. >> THE WEAPONIZATION OF THE DOJ
00:58:55KIND OF THING. YEAH. ANOTHER ACTIVE FASHION. >> THERE YOU GO. ACTIVE FASHION.
00:58:58I LOVE IT, SCOTT. THANK YOU.
00:59:00BRILLIANT. THANK YOU. IT'S, UH. WELL, WE'RE HITTING THE TOP OF
00:59:04THE HOUR HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK. THE THE PRESIDENT
00:59:06OF SOCIAL SECURITY, WORKS.ORG IS
00:59:08GOING TO DROP BY ALEX LAWSON. SO STICK AROUND. IT'S GOING TO GET
00:59:12INTERESTING. WE'LL BE RIGHT. >> BACK.
00:59:16>> [MUSIC]
00:59:24>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
00:59:27HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
00:59:28CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
00:59:32C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
00:59:36COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
00:59:40SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
00:59:42COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
00:59:44COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON C-SPAN. TWO.
00:59:48>> [MUSIC]
00:59:56>> DEMOCRACY >> [MUSIC] >> IS ALWAYS AN UNFINISHED
01:00:00CREATION. >> DEMOCRACY IS WORTH. DYING FOR. >> DEMOCRACY BELONGS TO US ALL.
01:00:04>> WE ARE HERE IN THE SANCTUARY OF DEMOCRACY.
01:00:07>> GREAT RESPONSIBILITIES FALL ONCE AGAIN TO THE GREAT
01:00:11DEMOCRACIES. >> AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS BIGGER
01:00:12THAN ANY ONE PERSON.
01:00:16>> FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY MUST BE CONSTANTLY GUARDED AND PROTECTED.
01:00:19>> WE ARE STILL, AT OUR CORE, A DEMOCRACY.
01:00:23>> THIS IS ALSO A MASSIVE
01:00:25VICTORY FOR DEMOCRACY AND FOR FREEDOM.
01:00:28>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
01:00:35>> WATCH AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB
01:00:38C-SPAN'S BOLD ORIGINAL SERIES, SUNDAY WITH OUR GUEST AWARD
01:00:42WINNING GLOBAL NUMBER ONE BEST SELLING AUTHOR, >> [MUSIC]
01:00:45>> DAVID BALDACCI. HIS THRILLERS HAVE SOLD OVER 200 MILLION
01:00:48COPIES WORLDWIDE. PUBLISHED IN OVER 45 LANGUAGES IN MORE THAN
01:00:5280 COUNTRIES. HE JOINS OUR HOST, RENOWNED AUTHOR AND CIVIC
01:00:56LEADER, DAVID RUBENSTEIN.
01:00:58>> SO WHEN YOU ARE WRITING, UM,
01:01:02DO YOU EVER SAY TO YOURSELF, UH, YOU EVER DAYDREAM, YOU EVER LOSE
01:01:05YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, OR YOU JUST TUNNEL VISIONED ON WHAT
01:01:09YOU'RE WRITING? >> I DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I
01:01:11TUNNEL VISION, I LET MY
01:01:13IMAGINATION RUN, YOU KNOW,
01:01:17BECAUSE I FOUND THAT WHEN I TRIED TO KEEP MY IMAGINATION IN CHECK, I MISS OPPORTUNITIES. AND
01:01:20I DON'T WANT TO MISS OPPORTUNITIES. PEOPLE ASK, WHERE DO I GET MY IDEAS FROM? I GET UP
01:01:24EVERY DAY AND I WALK OUT THE DOOR AND I SEE WHAT'S IN FRONT
01:01:26OF ME. I'M NOT ON MY IPHONE LOOKING AT MY IPHONE. I'M
01:01:30LOOKING AT PEOPLE, AND I'VE
01:01:31GOTTEN IDEAS FOR PLOT POINTS JUST BY WALKING DOWN THE STREET
01:01:35AND SEEING TWO PEOPLE TALKING, AND I'M WONDERING, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? MAYBE I CAN
01:01:39ANSWER THAT MYSELF. OR I SEE A
01:01:43GUY WITH A BOX GET ON A BUS. I WONDER WHAT'S IN THE BOX AND WHERE IS THE BUS GOING WITH THE
01:01:46GUY? AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, I
01:01:48HAVE A STORY IDEA.
01:01:51>> FROM THAT, REPORTING OVER A COMMONDREAMS.ORG ABOUT THIS.
01:01:55THIS KIND OF MEME, THIS RESPONSE
01:01:56TO DONALD TRUMP NAMING LAKE
01:02:00ONTARIO AS LAKE AMERICA. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS. I SAW
01:02:04A MEME YESTERDAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE IT WAS A PICTURE OF THEM
01:02:08PUTTING A SIGN OVER THE LAKE ONTARIO SIGN UP ON THE CANADA
01:02:11SIDE THAT SAID, LAKE EPSTEIN
01:02:16FILES. AND, AND THEN, UM, DOUG
01:02:19FORD, I BELIEVE THE PREMIER OF
01:02:22ONTARIO SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO RENAME IT. IN FACT, HE POSTED
01:02:25THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. UH, HE WAS GOING TO RENAME IT LAKE NATALIE.
01:02:29LIKE, YOU KNOW, NATALIE HARPE, WHO FOLLOWS TRUMP AROUND THIS
01:02:32LITTLE BLOND BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT
01:02:36SOME REAL PROBLEMS IN AMERICA, RIGHT? WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
01:02:39WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THAT IS,
01:02:42COST HAS COST US LIVES. 18
01:02:44AMERICAN LIVES, HUNDREDS OF AMERICAN CASUALTIES, PEOPLE IN
01:02:48THE HOSPITAL THERE, IN MANY CASES, THEIR LIVES SHATTERED,
01:02:50THEIR FUTURES RUINED. UM, WE'VE
01:02:53GOT AND NOT TO MENTION THE, THE
01:02:56HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAS COST US ALREADY AND
01:02:59WIPED OUT OUR, OUR MUNITIONS SO
01:03:01THAT WE CAN'T REALLY DO MUCH IF CHINA DECIDES TO MOVE ON, ON
01:03:05TAIWAN RIGHT NOW. IN FACT, WE PULLED THE SHIP OUT OF THE AREA
01:03:08TO, TO PUT IT INTO THE INTO THE
01:03:11MIDDLE EAST. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE
01:03:12GOT THAT MESS. THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS SHEDDING JOBS. WE
01:03:16LOST, WHAT WAS IT, 28,000 JOBS LAST MONTH. AND WE KNOW THAT
01:03:19WHEN THEY REVISED THE NUMBERS, IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN WORSE. BECAUSE EVER SINCE TRUMP FIRED
01:03:23THE STATISTICIAN THERE AND PUT IN A TOADY, WE'VE BEEN GETTING
01:03:26LIES EVERY SINGLE MONTH ABOUT THE JOB SITUATION. AND THEN THEY CORRECT THEM TWO MONTHS LATER,
01:03:29WHEN NOBODY'S NOTICING. UM,
01:03:34YOU'VE GOT INFLATION RISING AND KEVIN WARSH. YESTERDAY AT, I
01:03:37THINK IT WAS IN JACKSON HOLE
01:03:39THAT, THAT ANNUAL CONFERENCE
01:03:44THEY HAVE IN WYOMING, UM, SAID THAT, INFLATION IS ABOVE HIS 2%
01:03:48TARGET RANGE, AND THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE HE'S GOING TO HAVE
01:03:50TO RAISE INTEREST RATES. I MEAN,
01:03:53YOU KNOW, OUR ECONOMY IS A MESS.
01:03:54AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TRUMP'S
01:03:57SO-CALLED BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL
01:04:00THAT GAVE BILLIONAIRES IN AMERICA, ELON MUSK AND MARK
01:04:03ZUCKERBERG. AND, AND, UH, YOU
01:04:05KNOW, JEFF BEZOS, LITERALLY $1
01:04:08TRILLION TAX CUT, $1 TRILLION
01:04:13TAX CUT. AND TO COVER PART OF
01:04:14THE COST OF THAT, THEY CUT A
01:04:18TRILLION. THEY YEAH, THEY CUT $1 TRILLION OUT OF. WELL, NO, IT
01:04:22WASN'T $1 TRILLION. IT WAS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
01:04:23OUT OF MEDICAID AND FOOD STAMPS.
01:04:27AND SO NOW YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS
01:04:30WHO'VE LOST THEIR FOOD STAMPS. THEY'VE LOST THEIR MEDICAID.
01:04:34UM, THEY ALSO ENDED THE
01:04:37SUBSIDIES FOR THE OBAMACARE PROGRAM. SO YOUR $300 A MONTH
01:04:41OBAMACARE PROGRAM, UH, YOU KNOW, HEALTH INSURANCE IS NOW, YOU
01:04:43KNOW, $1,000 A MONTH. SOCIAL SECURITY IS RUNNING OUT OF
01:04:47MONEY. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
01:04:50AND SO WHAT DID TRUMP SPEND THE
01:04:51DAY DOING YESTERDAY, RENAMING
01:04:55LAKE ONTARIO? THIS IS NUTS.
01:04:58PUBLIC CITIZEN RESPONDED WITH A POST ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SAYING,
01:05:02WE'D REALLY RATHER PREFER
01:05:04AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE WE GOT A
01:05:06$1.5 TRILLION STUDENT DEBT CRISIS IN AMERICA. YOUNG PEOPLE
01:05:09CAN'T AFFORD TO
01:05:17START FAMILIES OR BUY HOMES
01:05:21BERNIE SANDERS WROTE AND. THIS IS JUST SO SUCCINCT AND SO BRILLIANT, HE SAID. NO, PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE AMERICAN
01:05:24PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO RENAME LAKE ONTARIO AS LAKE AMERICA.
01:05:28THEY WANT AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE, CHILD CARE, HOUSING, EDUCATION, AND NUTRITION
01:05:31ASSISTANCE, ALL OF WHICH YOU HAVE MASSIVELY CUT IN ORDER TO
01:05:34PAY FOR YOUR $1 TRILLION TAX
01:05:36BREAK, FOR THE TOP 1%, AND YOU RECALL, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
01:05:40AGO, TRUMP SAID, WELL, I REALLY
01:05:42DON'T THINK ABOUT AMERICAN'S
01:05:45FINANCIAL SITUATION. THAT'S A
01:05:49VERBATIM QUOTE. KATHY HOCHUL, THE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK, WHO
01:05:53LEADS THE ONLY STATE THAT ACTUALLY TOUCHES LAKE ONTARIO,
01:05:57LAKE ONTARIO, AND THE US SIDE IS
01:05:58ENTIRELY IN NEW YORK. UM, SHE
01:06:03SAID YESTERDAY OR WEDNESDAY, I GUESS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, QUOTE, SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON
01:06:06WAYS TO MEND RELATIONSHIPS WITH
01:06:10CANADA. SO OUR FARMERS AND OUR CONSUMERS AND OUR FAMILIES DO
01:06:13NOT CONTINUE SUFFERING FROM HIS
01:06:15INANE WAR OVER TARIFFS, SHE ADDED. THE FACT THAT THE NAME
01:06:19CHANGE IS EVEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION SHOWS HOW ABSURD
01:06:23THIS TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN GOOD
01:06:26AT HIS WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE. HE'S LOUSY WITH MONEY. HE'S LOUSY AT
01:06:29BUSINESSES, PRETTY MUCH EVERY BUSINESS HE'S EVER RUN HAS FAILED OR EVEN GONE BANKRUPT,
01:06:33WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HIS REAL
01:06:37ESTATE BUSINESS, WHICH WAS BAILED OUT BY RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS
01:06:40USING IT TO LAUNDER MONEY. AND THIS IS ALL FAIRLY WELL DOCUMENTED. I MEAN, THE GUY IS A
01:06:44COMPLETE LOSER, AND INCOMPETENT, BUT THERE IS ONE THING HE'S GOOD
01:06:48AT, AND THE ONE THING HE'S GOOD
01:06:52AT IS GETTING PRESS, GETTING THE
01:06:55MEDIA, AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE OVER IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW,
01:06:59EVERY, YOU KNOW, HE, HE, YEARS AGO, HE, HE SAID, EVERY MORNING
01:07:02I WAKE UP AND THINK, HOW CAN I GET ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE
01:07:05PAPER? AND I THINK HE'S STILL
01:07:08RUNNING THAT, THAT SHTICK. AND,
01:07:12YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WOULD GO A WHOLE WEEK WITHOUT HEARING FROM BARACK OBAMA OR JOE
01:07:16BIDEN, YOU CAN'T GO 12 HOURS
01:07:19WITHOUT SOME NEW OUTRAGE FROM DONALD TRUMP. HE'S HE'S SUCH A
01:07:22NEEDY LITTLE BOY THAT HE'S JUST
01:07:25GOT TO HAVE EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION ALL THE TIME. ME, ME,
01:07:28ME, ME, ME. AND THIS IS JUST THE
01:07:31LATEST LITTLE CIRCUS TO DISTRACT US FROM THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW,
01:07:35THIS WEEK, HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HIS FORMER CRIMINAL DEFENSE
01:07:39LAWYER SAID, NO, I'M NOT GOING
01:07:40TO GIVE YOU THE THE EPSTEIN.
01:07:44>> FILES.
01:07:45>> [MUSIC]
01:07:53>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN
01:07:57PROGRAM >> HEY, WELCOME TO THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM. ON THE LINE
01:08:00WITH US, OUR GOOD FRIEND, ALEX LAWSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
01:08:02OF SOCIAL SECURITY, WORKS.ORG,
01:08:05AND STRENGTHEN SOCIAL
01:08:07SECURITY.ORG, A LAW 202 OR SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS.ORG. OVER
01:08:11ON BLUE SKY. ALEX, WELCOME BACK
01:08:13TO THE PROGRAM. IT'S ALWAYS SO NICE HAVING YOU WITH US.
01:08:16>> ALWAYS. MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE, TOM.
01:08:17>> BACK AT YOU. UH, THE SOCIAL
01:08:21SECURITY TRUST FUND IS RUNNING OUT, AND YOU'VE GOT REPUBLICANS
01:08:25OUT THERE SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO CUT SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS OR
01:08:29RAISE THE RETIREMENT AGE. THERE
01:08:33WAS SOME GUY WHO WAS, UH, PUBLISHING THIS RIGHT WING THING ABOUT BABY BOOMERS ARE
01:08:36COLLECTING 265% OF WHAT THEY PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, AND
01:08:40MILLENNIALS ARE PAYING THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THEY'RE POINTING THE FINGER AT OLD
01:08:44PEOPLE. UM, WHAT'S THE REAL SITUATION HERE? AND WHY ISN'T
01:08:47THIS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE ALREADY?
01:08:51>> UH, SO I THINK IT IS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE. UH, I THINK
01:08:54THAT, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS
01:08:56BECAUSE OF THE, THE DOGE AND,
01:08:59UH, TRUMP ATTACKS ON THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION,
01:09:03HOLLOWING OUT THE AGENCY, CLOSING OFFICES, CREATING GHOST
01:09:06OFFICES. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO PEOPLE. SO WHEN
01:09:09SOCIAL SECURITY IS BROUGHT UP ON
01:09:11AS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE, IT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED THERE. RIGHT
01:09:15NOW. UM, BUT AS PEOPLE
01:09:17UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE
01:09:19ISSUE IS, WHICH SOMETIMES LIKE
01:09:22THE GHOST OFFICES AND CLOSED OFFICES ARE THE FIRST STEP, BUT
01:09:25THEN THEY LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, IF CONGRESS DOES NOTHING
01:09:28IN 2032, THERE'S GOING TO BE A
01:09:3120% BENEFIT CUT FOR EVERYBODY
01:09:33NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? A
01:09:3620% BENEFIT CUT FOR EVERYBODY.
01:09:38JUST ABSOLUTELY CATASTROPHIC,
01:09:41DEVASTATING. PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR HOMES. PEOPLE WILL GO
01:09:43HUNGRY. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T, UH,
01:09:47THE, THE ECONOMIC EFFECTS OF THAT WOULD BE JUST UNIMAGINABLE.
01:09:50UH, SO THAT IS NOT IN THE
01:09:56DISTANT FUTURE. THAT'S IN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL
01:09:58ADMINISTRATION. YEAH. AND AGAIN,
01:10:00THE PROBLEM IS A 20% BENEFIT CUT. SO AS YOU POINT OUT, YOU
01:10:04GOT ALL THESE REPUBLICANS AND THEN DEMOCRATS WHO GO ALONG WITH
01:10:07THEM. UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THEY'RE
01:10:09LIKE, HEY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS
01:10:13LOOMING 20% BENEFIT CUT. SO HEAR ME OUT. WHAT IF WE CUT BENEFITS
01:10:16NOW BY 20%? UH, RIGHT. AND YOU
01:10:20AND I HAVE SEEN THIS FOR, FOR, UH, FOREVER. NOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE
01:10:23BEEN DOING THIS FOR 16 YEARS, AND I'M LIKE, HOW STUPID DO YOU
01:10:27THINK WE ARE? THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION. THAT'S THE PROBLEM
01:10:30SOONER. UM, SO WE HAVE TO REJECT THAT. AND THEN WHEN YOU DIG
01:10:33DEEPER, TOM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, THE PROBLEM
01:10:37ISN'T, UH, BOOMERS, THE PROBLEM
01:10:39ISN'T IMMIGRANTS. THE PROBLEM
01:10:42ISN'T ANYTHING THAT THESE RIGHT WINGERS ARE POINTING AT. UH, AND THAT'S NOT ME SAYING THAT.
01:10:46THAT'S THE SOCIAL SECURITY
01:10:48ACTUARY SAYING THAT THERE'S ONE
01:10:52CAUSE OF THE, UH, TRUST FUND EMPTYING 30 YEARS SOONER THAN IT
01:10:54SHOULD. UH, AND IT'S BILLIONAIRES. IT'S THAT
01:10:58BILLIONAIRES, UH, DO NOT PAY IN
01:11:00ON ALL OF THEIR INCOME. THERE'S
01:11:03A CAP. YOU ONLY PAY IN ON THE
01:11:05FIRST $184,500 OF INCOME. AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T PAY A NICKEL
01:11:09MORE. SO THE MORE MONEY YOU MAKE, THE LESS YOU PAY AS A
01:11:12PERCENTAGE INTO SOCIAL SECURITY.
01:11:14THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO YOU SAY, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING,
01:11:18THERE'S GOING TO BE A 20%
01:11:21BENEFIT CUT IN 2032. BUT IF WE
01:11:24GET THE BILLIONAIRES TO PAY THE
01:11:26SAME RATE IN NO BENEFIT CUT, AND
01:11:29IN FACT, WE CAN EXPAND BENEFITS
01:11:32FOR EVERYONE. AND WHEN YOU TELL
01:11:33PEOPLE THE TRUTH LIKE THAT,
01:11:37IT'S NOT A DEMOCRATIC ISSUE. INDEPENDENT REPUBLICANS EVEN SELF-IDENTIFIED LIBERTARIANS,
01:11:41ARE LIKE, WELL, OBVIOUSLY JUST HAVE EVERYONE PAY THE SAME RATE
01:11:44INTO THE SYSTEM AND PREVENT THE
01:11:48BENEFIT CUTS PEOPLE HAVE EARNED THESE BENEFITS. IF YOU CUT THEIR
01:11:52BENEFITS, YOU'RE STEALING FROM THEM, RIGHT? YOU'RE STEALING
01:11:56FROM THEM. IT'S OUR MONEY. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON
01:11:59RIGHT NOW, TOM. AND I THINK THAT
01:12:01AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE ELECTION, THE MIDTERMS, THIS IS
01:12:04WHAT ALWAYS HAPPENS. UM, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO ELECTION DATE,
01:12:07YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE CAMPAIGNS AND CANDIDATES
01:12:11TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY. >> I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING
01:12:14OUT, ALEX, THAT ONE OF THE
01:12:16THINGS THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE
01:12:21BEEN PROMOTING FOR YEARS AND YEARS IS THE SO-CALLED FLAT TAX, THAT EVERYONE SHOULD PAY A
01:12:24LITTLE BIT OF INCOME TAX, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY THE SAME
01:12:27RATE. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A SCAM. THIS IS SO THAT THE RICH
01:12:31PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING 37% RIGHT NOW, AND THE POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
01:12:34PAYING NOTHING, THAT WILL BE
01:12:36CHANGE TO EVERYBODY PAYING 20%, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE GUY
01:12:39WORKING AT MCDONALD'S. AND, YOU
01:12:45KNOW, ELON MUSK AND AROUND INCOME TAXES. BUT THIS IS THEIR THING, RIGHT? REPUBLICANS, FLAT
01:12:49TAX, FLAT TAX, FLAT TAX. I MEAN,
01:12:51THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS MANTRA
01:12:53SINCE THE SINCE THE 70s. AND THE
01:12:57SOCIAL SECURITY TAX IS A FLAT TAX, EXCEPT THAT IT'S GOT THIS
01:13:00CAP. IT'S NOT EVEN YOU KNOW, I
01:13:03MEAN, IT IT PLEASE SPEAK TO
01:13:05THAT. I'M ONE. ONE OF THE HEAR.
01:13:10>> ONE OF THE GREATEST POLICY. UH, YOU KNOW, CREATIONS OF OUR
01:13:13TIME IS PROGRESSIVE TAXATION.
01:13:15RIGHT. WHICH IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE. THE MORE MONEY YOU
01:13:18MAKE, THE MORE YOU PAY IN, UH,
01:13:23THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIAL SECURITY AND, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY
01:13:25WORKS, IT'S AN AMAZING PROGRAM,
01:13:27BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT. AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AS
01:13:30YOU GO ALONG. ONE OF THE THINGS
01:13:34THAT, THAT WE SHOULD SEE IS THAT
01:13:35THE REVENUE ON SOCIAL SECURITY
01:13:38IS NOT ONLY NOT PROGRESSIVE,
01:13:40IT'S REGRESSIVE. MEANING THE
01:13:43MORE YOU MAKE, THE LESS YOU PAY IN AS A PERCENTAGE. AND SO THIS
01:13:47IS THE ONE CASE, TOM, WHERE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU
01:13:51WOULD SEE PROGRESSIVES. WE'RE
01:13:53NOT SAYING THAT ELON MUSK SHOULD
01:13:56PAY MORE INTO SOCIAL SECURITY.
01:13:58WE'RE SAYING THAT HE SHOULD JUST PAY THE SAME RATE AS A
01:14:02MINIMUM WAGE WORKER. >> WE SHOULD CALL IT A FLAT TAX.
01:14:05WE CALL IT A FLAT TAX, RIGHT? >> LIKE, TAKE THEIR LINGO AND
01:14:08PUT IT INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. BUT THE, THE
01:14:11BEAUTY OF SOCIAL SECURITY IS ON
01:14:16THE BENEFIT SIDE. UM, WHICH IS I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THE WEEDS, BUT IT'S CALLED THE
01:14:20REPLACEMENT RATE. AND YOU REPLACE MORE OF THE DOLLARS THAT
01:14:23ARE PAID IN AS PREMIUMS AT THE
01:14:25LOWER END. SO FOR THOSE MINIMUM
01:14:28WAGE WORKERS, THEN AT THE HIGHER
01:14:30END, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU
01:14:33HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE ENGINE
01:14:35AGAINST INEQUALITY, EVEN WITH
01:14:38THE REGRESSIVE REVENUE MODEL. BUT THE BENEFIT FORMULA IS SO
01:14:42PROGRESSIVE THAT IT IS A BRAKE
01:14:44ON INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY.
01:14:49THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR CREATING IT. IN THE MIDST OF THE
01:14:52GREAT DEPRESSION, WAS NOT JUST
01:14:55TO SOLVE THE ACUTE PROBLEM OF,
01:14:58YOU KNOW, 1 IN 2 SENIORS AT THE
01:15:01TIME LIVING IN POVERTY, 50%. BUT
01:15:05IT WAS TO PREVENT ANOTHER GREAT
01:15:08DEPRESSION FROM HAPPENING BY PREVENTING THE BILLIONAIRES FROM
01:15:11TAKING EVERYTHING AND LEAVING EVERYONE ELSE TO FIGHT FOR
01:15:15SCRAPS THAT FALL FROM THEIR TABLE. NOW, SOCIAL SECURITY
01:15:18DOESN'T DO IT ALONE. THE NEW DEAL WAS BIGGER, BUT THEY ALL
01:15:21HAD THIS SAME VISION, RIGHT? COLLECTIVELY, BARGAINING AND
01:15:25FORMING A UNION. THAT'S WORKERS
01:15:28BEING ABLE TO PUT A BRAKE ON, THE BILLIONAIRES, TAKING EVERYTHING. UM, UNEMPLOYMENT
01:15:33INSURANCE, RIGHT. SAYING IF A WORKER LOSES THEIR JOB THROUGH
01:15:36NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, THEIR WAGES ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED.
01:15:40SO THAT BILLIONAIRES CAN'T TAKE
01:15:42EVERYTHING AND LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE SCRAMBLING. SOCIAL SECURITY
01:15:46IS PART OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHY
01:15:48THE BILLIONAIRES HATE IT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO
01:15:52DESTROY IT BY HOLLOWING OUT THE
01:15:54ADMINISTRATION, CLOSING OFFICES, AND BY TRYING TO LIE AND
01:15:58CONVINCE PEOPLE TO CUT THEIR OWN BENEFITS. AND THEY SAY THIS,
01:16:02THEY'VE SAID THIS, TOM, UH, THE
01:16:05GOAL OF THESE BILLIONAIRES IS TO CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU'RE GOING
01:16:08TO GET NOTHING SO THAT YOU WILL
01:16:11ACCEPT LESS THAN YOU'RE OWED. THEY KNOW THAT THE ONLY WAY
01:16:15THEY'RE GOING TO CUT OUR BENEFITS IS IF WE SIGN OFF ON
01:16:18THAT. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
01:16:20IMPORTANT TO GET THE TRUTH OF WHAT THE BATTLE ACTUALLY IS OUT THERE.
01:16:24>> YEAH. THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO SPEAK TO,
01:16:27UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
01:16:29LAST TIME YOU AND I TALKED, ALEX, BUT I THINK IT, IT'S SO
01:16:33IMPORTANT. IT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR
01:16:35YOUNGER LISTENERS. I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IN THEIR 20s,
01:16:3930s, 40s, WHO ARE SAYING, I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT SOCIAL
01:16:43SECURITY. I, YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT LIVE THAT LONG. OR IF I DO, GOD
01:16:46ONLY KNOWS WHAT THE SITUATION IS
01:16:47GOING TO BE LIKE, BUT THEY
01:16:51ACTUALLY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY INSURANCE ALSO. AND IT'S INSURANCE THAT IF YOU WERE TO GO
01:16:55OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, CALL
01:16:57YOUR INSURANCE BROKER, I'D LIKE TO BUY A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT
01:17:01IF I GET IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND I'M DISABLED FOR THE REST OF MY
01:17:03LIFE, THAT YOUR INSURANCE
01:17:06COMPANY WILL PAY FOR MY RENT AND
01:17:08PAY FOR MY MEDICAL SERVICES, AND
01:17:11KEEP ME ALIVE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. THEY WOULD QUOTE YOU A PRICE THAT YOU. THERE'S NO WAY
01:17:14YOU COULD AFFORD IT. BUT EVERYBODY ACTUALLY, IN AMERICA,
01:17:17ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN AMERICA, WHETHER YOU'RE FIVE YEARS OLD
01:17:20OR 50 YEARS OLD, HAS THAT IN SOCIAL SECURITY. CAN YOU SPEAK
01:17:23TO THAT?
01:17:25>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S AN OVERLOOKED PART OF SOCIAL
01:17:28SECURITY, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT FUNCTIONS SO WELL, UM, THAT
01:17:32PEOPLE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE EXTENT TO WHICH THEY'RE PROTECTED BY IT. SO MOST PEOPLE
01:17:36THINK OF JUST THE RETIREMENT PORTION, WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOU
01:17:38COULDN'T FIND JUST THAT PIECE
01:17:41ON THE PRIVATE MARKET AND INFLATION PROTECTED ANNUITY. NO
01:17:45WAY. UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT
01:17:49WE ALSO HAVE $1 MILLION IN LIFE. AND THIS IS, UH, ESTIMATES, UH,
01:17:53YOU KNOW, $1 MILLION IN LIFE AND
01:17:55$1 MILLION IN LONG TERM DISABILITY INSURANCE, UH, WHICH
01:17:59FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF
01:18:02AMERICANS IS THEIR LARGEST ASSET THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. THEY
01:18:06JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. AND
01:18:08THAT'S THROUGH, UH, THE DISABILITY INSURANCE AND THE
01:18:12SURVIVOR'S, BENEFIT IN SOCIAL
01:18:15SECURITY. SO EVERYBODY IS
01:18:18COVERED BY SOCIAL SECURITY. IT IS TRULY A UNIVERSAL SYSTEM.
01:18:21THAT'S WHY IT WORKS SO WELL. AND THEN, TOM, I DO WANT TO
01:18:25POINT OUT, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE LOVE
01:18:27THE PROGRAM, SO I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEM. UM, THAT, YOU KNOW,
01:18:31AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE FOMENTING
01:18:35GENERATIONAL WARFARE, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO. BUT YOUNG PEOPLE LOVE SOCIAL
01:18:38SECURITY BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT. UM, IT'S JUST THERE, BUT ALSO
01:18:42THE THING THAT YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T KNOW AS MUCH IS THAT
01:18:45THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOCIAL SECURITY MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
01:18:48AND THE CUTS ARE BIGGER FOR
01:18:52THEM. THE YOUNGER YOU ARE IN ALMOST EVERY PROPOSAL THAT THE
01:18:55REPUBLICANS PUT OUT, THE YOUNGER
01:18:57YOU ARE, THE BIGGER THE BENEFIT
01:19:00CUTS ARE. SO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THEY TRY TO BUY OFF
01:19:04CURRENT BENEFICIARIES. THEY'RE LIKE, DON'T WORRY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME AFTER YOU THAT
01:19:08MUCH. WE'RE JUST GOING TO STEAL YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN'S FUTURE. AND IT
01:19:11SHOWS HOW OUT OF TOUCH THEY ARE, BECAUSE CURRENT BENEFICIARIES
01:19:15ARE SENIORS RIGHT NOW ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FIGHTING HARDEST, NOT JUST FOR THEIR OWN BENEFITS,
01:19:19BUT FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.
01:19:22>> AND ALSO, IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOUR KIDS DON'T HAVE TO CARE
01:19:26FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S. VERY
01:19:28TRUE. AND SO YOU'RE YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND THIS IS,
01:19:30IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NUTS
01:19:33THAT, THAT I, THIS IS WHAT
01:19:36ASTONISHES ME, ALEX, IS THAT THIS IS GETTING SO LITTLE PUBLICITY THAT IT'S NOT BEING
01:19:40TALKED ABOUT MORE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
01:19:43BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
01:19:46PEOPLE CAN GO OVER TO SOCIAL
01:19:49SECURITY WORKS.ORG. AND IT DOES
01:19:50WORK. SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS.ORG, AND LEARN ALL ABOUT IT. ALEX
01:19:54LAWSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SECURITY, WORKS.
01:19:56THANKS AGAIN, ALEX.
01:20:00>> THANKS, TOM. >> GREAT SEEING YOU. IT IS 18 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE
01:20:03BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND YOUR CALLS IN JUST A
01:20:07MOMENT. UH, WHY IS WHISKEY PETE
01:20:09BUILDING A PENTAGON TROLL ARMY?
01:20:11AND IS THAT EVEN LEGAL >> [MUSIC]
01:20:14>> AND. WHOA, A SUPERSONIC JETLINER COMING. STICK AROUND.
01:20:17WE'LL BE RIGHT.
01:20:19>> BACK.
01:20:23>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
01:20:27>> IT'S TALK MEDIA FOR THE REST
01:20:28OF US. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK
01:20:32WITH.
01:20:33>> YOU.
01:20:46>> AND WELCOME BACK. AND HANG ON
01:20:51JUST A SECOND HERE. THERE YOU GO. HENRY AND JACKSON HEIGHTS, NEW YORK. HEY, HENRY, WHAT'S ON
01:20:54YOUR MIND TODAY?
01:20:56>> FOR TD? HEY, TOM. GOOD TO
01:20:59THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADD
01:21:00SOME, UM, STATISTICS TO WHAT YOU
01:21:03SAID ABOUT, UH, REAGAN AND
01:21:06IMMIGRATION. UH, BASICALLY THERE
01:21:10WERE APPROXIMATELY 3.5 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN NEW
01:21:13YORK CITY IN THE, IN THE UNITED
01:21:15STATES IN 86. AND 3 MILLION OF
01:21:20THEM APPLIED FOR AMNESTY, 2.7
01:21:22MILLION. GOT IT. YEP. THAT'S A
01:21:2575% NUMBER, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.
01:21:28AND I JUST WISH THAT THESE
01:21:30IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON
01:21:36>> IT'S NOT ABOUT FIGURING SOMETHING OUT, HENRY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THESE IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE, BY AND LARGE, NOT WHITE
01:21:40PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE SAYING, WE DON'T WANT THEM IN THIS
01:21:42COUNTRY. THIS IS ALL ABOUT RACE
01:21:46>> AGREE COMPLETELY. >> IT IS ENTIRELY ABOUT RACE.
01:21:49AND, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE
01:21:52BRUTALITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
01:21:55YOU KNOW AS RACIST WHITE PEOPLE
01:21:59APPARENTLY LOVE WATCHING BROWN AND BLACK PEOPLE BEING BEAT UP
01:22:01OR TORTURED OR THROWN INTO, INTO
01:22:04CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, YOU KNOW, TORN APART
01:22:06FROM THEIR CHILDREN. THEY, I THINK STEPHEN MILLER IS GLEEFUL
01:22:09ABOUT THIS. I THINK THE GUY'S A SADIST.
01:22:13>> I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT OF
01:22:14COURSE, THERE'S A NEGATIVE
01:22:23BECAUSE EMMA GOLDMAN, YOU KNOW, WRETCHED REFUSE IS OUT THE WINDOW.
01:22:26>> YEAH, YEAH. THE AT THE FOOT OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. YOU'RE
01:22:30ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, HENRY. THANK YOU. WELL SAID. UH, BOB IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA. HEY,
01:22:34BOB. WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S ON YOUR
01:22:39MIND TODAY? BOB IN RALEIGH,
01:22:41WATCHING US ON YOUTUBE BOB IS ON
01:22:46LINE SIX THERE. MATEO, IF YOU CAN CHECK HIM OUT, SEE WHAT'S
01:22:48GOING ON. MICHAEL IN. MATT B WASHINGTON. HEY, MICHAEL,
01:22:52WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
01:22:54>> HEY, TOM.
01:22:56>> YEAH, WELL, I WAS THINKING
01:22:59ABOUT DONALD TRUMP CHANGING THE NAME OF LAKE ONTARIO TO LAKE
01:23:03AMERICA. AND I THOUGHT, I GUESS
01:23:05I'M NOT AS ORIGINAL AS I
01:23:08THOUGHT THAT, UH, THAT WOULD
01:23:10CHANGE THE MNEMONIC FROM HOMES
01:23:13HERE ON ONTARIO, MICHIGAN, ERIE.
01:23:14SUPERIOR TO SHAME HERE ON
01:23:22AMERICA, MICHIGAN, ERIE. >> OH.
01:23:24>> WOW
01:23:28>> WOW. THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO PASS ON. HE'S BRINGING SHAME TO AMERICA.
01:23:32>> I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GREW
01:23:33UP IN MICHIGAN, RIGHT. AND SO I WENT TO SCHOOL IN LANSING, YOU
01:23:37KNOW, IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND THAT'S WHERE WE
01:23:39LEARNED THAT HOLMES ACRONYM TO, TO MEMORIZE THE NAMES OF THE
01:23:43GREAT LAKES. AND PEOPLE WHO, YOU
01:23:46KNOW, HAVE NEVER BEEN TO MICHIGAN, MAY NOT EVEN KNOW
01:23:48ABOUT THAT, BUT, UH, WHAT A,
01:23:53WHAT AN INTERESTING TWIST. UH,
01:23:55YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M WAITING TO SEE IF CANADA IS GOING TO
01:23:59SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DIVIDING LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF LAKE ONTARIO. AND
01:24:02SO WE'RE GOING TO RENAME OUR END OF IT. YOU KNOW, LIKE DOUG
01:24:05FORD WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT NATALIE LAKE,
01:24:08NATALIE, UM, OR SOMETHING
01:24:10ABSURD, YOU KNOW, LAKE EPSTEIN,
01:24:13BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS GOES. I DON'T THINK THE CANADIANS ARE
01:24:17GOING TO PUT UP WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IT
01:24:20WAS IT WAS NAMED LAKE ONTARIO
01:24:23BEFORE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. IT WAS NAMED AFTER THE TRIBE
01:24:26THAT WAS THERE. IT'S BEEN LAKE ONTARIO SINCE THE 1600s. SO
01:24:29ANYHOW. YEAH, MICHAEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CALL. SPOT ON.
01:24:32UH, AND THANKS FOR REMINDING ME
01:24:34OF THAT ACRONYM. I HAD, FRANKLY FORGOTTEN. I MEAN, IT WAS
01:24:38LITERALLY THIRD GRADE STUFF, 22 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE
01:24:42RIGHT BACK. >> STICK AROUND.
01:24:45>> [MUSIC]
01:24:52>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
01:24:56CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
01:24:57MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
01:25:01C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR
01:25:05LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
01:25:08SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
01:25:09COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
01:25:12COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
01:25:14C-SPAN. TWO.
01:25:19>> IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS, I HURRIED OFF TO SCHOOL JUST TO
01:25:23FIND THE OTHERS, LAUGHING AND
01:25:25MAKING FUN OF ME IN MY COAT OF
01:25:29MANY COLORS THAT MAMA MADE FOR
01:25:31ME. IN MY COAT OF MANY THAT MY
01:25:35MAMA MADE FOR ME. MADE ONLY FROM
01:25:38RAGS. BUT I WORE IT SO PROUDLY.
01:25:42AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD NO MONEY, I
01:25:46WAS RICH AS I COULD BE. IN MY
01:25:48COAT OF MANY COLORS. MAMA MADE
01:25:54FOR ME. >> DOLLY PARTON. READING AND
01:25:56SINGING TO CHILDREN. IN A 2018 APPEARANCE ON C-SPAN, THE
01:26:00TENNESSEE NATIVE, WHO DIED LAST
01:26:01WEEK AT THE AGE OF 80, HAS
01:26:05DONATED MORE THAN 300 MILLION BOOKS TO CHILDREN AS PART OF HER
01:26:08IMAGINATION LIBRARY PROGRAM ON SATURDAY, WE'LL REMEMBER THE
01:26:12LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOLLY PARTON
01:26:14THROUGH HER APPEARANCES ON
01:26:17C-SPAN. WATCH AT 8 P.M. EASTERN.
01:26:24NONFICTION BOOK LOVERS C-SPAN HAS A NUMBER OF PODCASTS FOR YOU LISTEN TO BESTSELLING NONFICTION
01:26:27AUTHORS AND INFLUENTIAL
01:26:29INTERVIEWERS ON THE AFTER WORDS
01:26:32PODCAST AND ON Q&A HERE. WIDE RANGING CONVERSATIONS WITH NONFICTION AUTHORS AND OTHERS
01:26:36WHO ARE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN, AND BOOKNOTES. PLUS, EPISODES.
01:26:39>> BOOSTER. SOMEBODY WHO'S A BIG
01:26:41FAN OF ELON MUSK, NAMED ONLINE
01:26:45WITH THE NAME DATA REPUBLICAN. IT'S ACTUALLY A MOM FROM UTAH.
01:26:48HER NAME IS JESSICA POUNDS, AND
01:26:52SHE'S BEEN OUT THERE, YOU KNOW,
01:26:56PUSHING ALL KINDS OF MEMES THAT ARE LIKE, PRO HEGSETH, PRO
01:26:58PENTAGON, PRO-WAR, PRO TRUMP.
01:27:03AND NOW WE LEARN THAT SHE
01:27:06ACTUALLY WORKS FOR THE PENTAGON
01:27:11FOR PETE HEGSETH. AND SHE GOT OUTED OVER ON X, WHICH IS
01:27:15ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING. THE SECRET WORK FOR THE PENTAGON CALLS INTO QUESTION THE
01:27:19MOTIVATION OF SOME OF HER POSTS.
01:27:22SHE POSTED, FOR EXAMPLE, AN ATTACK ON DAN DRISKELL. DAN
01:27:25DRISKELL IS THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE ARMY, OR THE ARMY
01:27:28SECRETARY, AND HEGSETH HATES
01:27:31HIM. IN FACT, HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY NOW. I COULD BE
01:27:34WRONG ON THAT. BUT ANYHOW, SHE.
01:27:36SHE ATTACKED HIM. IS SHE DOING
01:27:39THIS BECAUSE PETE HEGSETH ASKED HER TO. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS
01:27:43IS WEIRD. I MEAN, IN THE SOVIET
01:27:48UNION, THE GOVERNMENT DID
01:27:50PROPAGANDA TO ITS OWN PEOPLE. WE'VE DONE PROPAGANDA. WE USED
01:27:54TO DO PROPAGANDA TO OTHER PEOPLE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, RADIO,
01:27:57FREE RADIO, FREE AMERICA, THE VOICE OF AMERICA, STUFF LIKE
01:28:00THAT. AND TRUMP HAS KILLED MOST
01:28:03OF THOSE PROGRAMS OR PUT CRAZIES IN CHARGE OF THEM, TURNED THEM
01:28:06INTO RIGHT WING OUTLETS. BUT WE USED TO DO, YOU KNOW,
01:28:10PRO-DEMOCRACY PROPAGANDA, BUT WE DIDN'T DO IT AGAINST OURSELVES.
01:28:13I MEAN, THE CLOSEST WE CAME TO THAT WAS DURING WORLD WAR TWO,
01:28:17WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
01:28:18WAS DOING THESE FILMS ABOUT WHAT FASCISM IS. AND SOME OF THOSE
01:28:22ARE REALLY EXTRAORDINARY. YOU CAN FIND THEM. YOU KNOW, THEY
01:28:25LIVE ON YOUTUBE, AND THEY'RE
01:28:27JUST REMARKABLE. BUT, AND IN FACT, WE PLAYED SOME OF THEM ON
01:28:30THIS PROGRAM OVER THE YEARS.
01:28:32BUT, UH, HEGSETH ON THE ONE
01:28:35HAND, IS, HAS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GUTTED THE PRESS
01:28:39CORPS. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ASKED
01:28:44THEM TO SIGN NDAS AND ALL KINDS OF WILD STUFF. I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
01:28:46IN OTHER WORDS, PREVENT US FROM
01:28:48GETTING CLEAR AND ACCURATE AND HONEST INFORMATION. AND NOW,
01:28:51APPARENTLY, HE'S HIRING PEOPLE
01:28:54TO PROMOTE PHONY BALONEY INFORMATION. AND, YOU KNOW, NOT
01:28:57ONLY DOES THAT SEEM UN-AMERICAN
01:29:00TO ME, IT SEEMS, FRANKLY,
01:29:02ILLEGAL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
01:29:05MAKE OF THIS, BUT I THINK THIS
01:29:06IS A MUCH BIGGER STORY THAN
01:29:09IT'S GETTING PLAY IN THE MEDIA. IT'S BASICALLY A LITTLE BLIP IN THE MEDIA. IT SHOULD BE A BIG
01:29:13DEAL. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
01:29:15>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
01:29:18HARTMANN PROGRAM. CALL
01:29:2120208089925. >> HEY, A SUPERSONIC JET MIGHT BE COMING. I GOT TO TELL YOU WHY
01:29:24I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THAT. AND YOUR CALLS.
01:29:28>> STICK AROUND
01:29:44>> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT, GEEKY
01:29:47SCIENCE FRIDAY VERSION. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
01:29:50COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID
01:29:52CLIMATE CHANGE BUILD THIS HEAT
01:29:55DOME? OVER 80 MILLION AMERICANS, MORE THAN 80 MILLION AMERICANS
01:29:58ARE UNDER AN EXTREME HEAT
01:30:00WARNING OR A HEAT ADVISORY THIS WEEK. FORECASTERS CALL THIS HEAT
01:30:03DOME STEAMY EVEN BY LATE AUGUST,
01:30:06STANDARDS. RECORD HEAT KEEPS PUNISHING THE SOUTH CENTRAL STATES AND SPREADS INTO THE
01:30:10SOUTHWEST BY MIDWEEK, WITH HIGHS WELL ABOVE 100 DEGREES IN PARTS
01:30:13OF ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO,
01:30:17TOPPING 110. THE HEAT INDEX HIT
01:30:19105 TO 115 ACROSS SOUTHERN
01:30:22ARIZONA. TEXAS, LOUISIANA AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. THE KNIGHTS
01:30:25WON'T COOL DOWN EITHER, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BODY IS
01:30:27SUPPOSED TO RECOVER. MICHAEL
01:30:30WEHNER OF LAWRENCE BERKELEY
01:30:33NATIONAL LABORATORY, SAYS CLIMATE CHANGE HAS RAISED
01:30:35ORDINARY HEAT WAVES BY 3 TO 5°F.
01:30:39AMERICAN HEAT WAVES HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE 1980s. HEAT ALREADY
01:30:42KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN HURRICANES, WILDFIRES AND FLOODS
01:30:46COMBINED. AND THOSE DEATHS GET UNDERCOUNTED. AND TRUMP KEEPS
01:30:49CUTTING. THE VERY FORECASTERS WHO WARN US AND CLAIMING THAT
01:30:53IT'S ALL JUST A HOAX. BIG OIL
01:30:56DRAINED A LAKE MEAD'S WORTH OF WATER FROM THE WEST. NOW WE KNOW
01:31:00WHO DID IT. A NEW STUDY IN
01:31:03NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, EARTH AND
01:31:06ENVIRONMENT, FINDS THAT 122
01:31:08FOSSIL FUEL AND CEMENT COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT HALF
01:31:11THE WATER CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
01:31:13STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN WEST
01:31:16FROM 2014 TO 2024, WARMING CUT THE REGION'S SNOWPACK BY MORE
01:31:19THAN A THIRD, AND DROPPED STREAMFLOWS BY 13%. THE CARBON
01:31:23MAJORS SHARE OF THAT LOSS ADDS UP TO TRILLIONS OF GALLONS,
01:31:27ROUGHLY THE ENTIRE CAPACITY OF LAKE MEAD. IN THE LOWER COLORADO
01:31:31RIVER BASIN, STREAMFLOW FELL 21%. 40 MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON
01:31:35THAT RIVER. COAUTHOR CARLY
01:31:38PHILLIPS OF THE UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SAYS THE
01:31:41COMPANIES, QUOTE, ENGAGED IN A
01:31:43CAMPAIGN OF DELAY AND DENIAL AND
01:31:46DECEPTION. CITIES AND STATES ARE
01:31:48ALREADY SUING. THE STUDY HANDS THEM THE PROOF IS THE SWEETENER
01:31:52IN YOUR GUM, RAISING YOUR HEART ATTACK. RISK. XYLITOL SHOWS UP
01:31:55IN SUGAR FREE GUM, CANDY, BAKED GOODS, AND TOOTHPASTE, AND IT'S
01:31:59SOLD AS A SAFE CHOICE. NOW, RESEARCH. NEW RESEARCH PRESENTED
01:32:03AT THE EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF
01:32:06CARDIOLOGY CONGRESS SAYS
01:32:10OTHERWISE. RESEARCHERS AT SHAKUR UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN BERLIN TRACKED ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
01:32:13ACROSS CANADIAN AND EUROPEAN
01:32:16STUDIES. AMONG CANADIAN PARTICIPANTS, THOSE CONSUMING
01:32:18THE MOST, XYLITOL HAD A 57%
01:32:22HIGHER RISK OF A MAJOR CARDIOVASCULAR EVENT OVER SIX YEARS. AND THE EUROPEAN GROUP,
01:32:26THE RISK RAN 18% HIGHER OVER 30
01:32:29YEARS. LEAD AUTHOR MARCO WITTKOWSKI SAYS FURTHER STUDIES
01:32:32ARE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY AS PRODUCT LEVELS KEEP CLIMBING.
01:32:35THIS IS OBSERVATIONAL WORK, SO
01:32:37IT CAN'T PROVE CAUSE. BUT
01:32:41REGULATORS CALL THESE SWEETENERS SAFE. DECADES AGO, AND NEVER
01:32:42WENT BACK TO CHECK. WHILE MANUFACTURERS KEPT INCREASING
01:32:46THE DOSES CAN A DIET SODA REALLY
01:32:53TRIPLE YOUR STOMACH CANCER RISK? MASS GENERAL BRIGHAM RESEARCHERS FOLLOWED 112,284 PEOPLE IN THE
01:32:57NURSES HEALTH STUDY AND THE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW UP
01:33:00STUDY. FOR DECADES. PEOPLE WHO DRANK AT LEAST ONE SUGAR
01:33:03SWEETENED BEVERAGE A DAY HAD
01:33:072.45 TIMES THE RISK OF STOMACH CANCER, COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
01:33:10DRANK LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. AMONG WOMEN DRINKING MORE THAN
01:33:13ONE A DAY, THE RISK RAN MORE
01:33:15THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER. SODAS,
01:33:18FRUIT PUNCH, LEMONADE AND SPORT DRINKS ALL COUNTED. DIET SODAS
01:33:21SHOWED NO LINK AT ALL. SENIOR AUTHOR ANDREW CHAN SAYS THE RISK
01:33:24APPEARS MEANINGFUL. HIGHER FOR
01:33:28REGULAR DRINKERS. STOMACH CANCER IS STILL RARE, AND THIS IS AN
01:33:31ASSOCIATION, NOT PROOF. BUT ROUGHLY 65% OF AMERICAN ADULTS
01:33:34DRINK ONE OF THESE EVERY DAY, AND THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY SPENDS
01:33:37MILLIONS. MAKING SURE THAT
01:33:41DOESN'T CHANGE. THE FDA APPROVES A PANCREATIC CANCER
01:33:43BREAKTHROUGH, PRICED AT $39,000
01:33:46A MONTH. FOR 40 YEARS,
01:33:48SCIENTISTS CALLED THE KRAS GENE
01:33:51UNDRUGGABLE. IT DRIVES MORE THAN
01:33:5390% OF PANCREATIC TUMORS, AND THE PROTEIN IS SO SMOOTH, THE
01:33:57DRUGS SLIDE RIGHT OFF IT. ON
01:33:58WEDNESDAY, THE FDA APPROVED
01:34:02DARAXONRASIB SOLD AS RESCON, A ONCE DAILY PILL FROM REVOLUTION
01:34:06MEDICINES. THE FDA CLEARED IT SIX AND A HALF MONTHS EARLY
01:34:08UNDER A NEW EXPEDITED REVIEW,
01:34:10FIVE WEEKS AFTER THE COMPANY
01:34:13FILED IN A PHASE THREE TRIAL OF
01:34:15500 PATIENTS WITH METASTATIC
01:34:17PANCREATIC CANCER. MEDIAN
01:34:19SURVIVAL WENT FROM 6.7 MONTHS ON
01:34:21CHEMOTHERAPY TO 13.2 MONTHS ON
01:34:26THE PILL. IT CUT THE RISK OF DEATH BY 60%. MD ANDERSON, SUBCOMPACT, COMPARED CRASS TO A
01:34:30SHINY BALL. BUT HERE'S THE CATCH. REVOLUTION MEDICINE
01:34:34PRICED IT AT $39,800 FOR A 30
01:34:38DAY SUPPLY. THAT'S A REAL MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH. LOCKED BEHIND A PRICE. NOBODY WITHOUT
01:34:42GOOD INSURANCE CAN TOUCH WHAT
01:34:46HAPPENS WHEN THE OCEANS, THE FORESTS, AND THE WHEAT ALL BREAK
01:34:48AT ONCE? BILL MCKIBBEN LAID IT
01:34:50OUT THIS WEEK. THE GLOBAL SEA
01:34:53SURFACE JUST HIT THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED. AND
01:34:56ONE CANADIAN SCIENTIST FIGURES. AUGUST 21st WAS LIKELY THE
01:34:59WARMEST OCEAN SINCE THE LAST
01:35:03INTERGLACIAL 125,000 YEARS AGO. 42% OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN IS IN
01:35:07A MARINE HEAT WAVE RIGHT NOW. CORAL IS BLEACHING AGAIN, AND
01:35:10REEFS FEED 500 MILLION PEOPLE
01:35:13OUT WEST. HOT FIRES ARE TURNING CONIFER FORESTS INTO SHRUBLAND
01:35:16FOR GOOD. STUDIES SAY 40% OF
01:35:20WESTERN CONIFERS COULD BE GONE BY 2100. SOME WESTERN STATES GET
01:35:2375% OF THEIR WATER FROM SNOWMELT, AND THE WHEAT IS
01:35:25FAILING. AMERICA IS HEADING FOR
01:35:27ITS WORST WHEAT HARVEST IN 50
01:35:30YEARS. ONE NEW STUDY SAYS THREE DEGREES OF WARMING COULD TRIPLE
01:35:33GLOBAL WHEAT PRICES. MCKIBBEN'S
01:35:36POINT IS SIMPLE POLITICS IS A SUBSET OF PHYSICS. YOU CAN LIE
01:35:39ABOUT A LOT. A LOT OF THINGS.
01:35:42BUT WHEAT IS REAL, AND THAT'S
01:35:44THE WAY IT IS TODAY. FRIDAY,
01:35:46AUGUST 28th, 2026. I'M THOM
01:35:49HARTMANN
01:35:57>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
01:36:00HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
01:36:03MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
01:36:06C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
01:36:09COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
01:36:12COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
01:36:16COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
01:36:19COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON C-SPAN.
01:36:22>> I BELIEVE I WAS FLYING LOUISE AROUND BEFORE WE GOT MARRIED,
01:36:26AND THAT WAS WHEN I WAS 21, SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME THAT I'VE
01:36:29BEEN A PILOT. I HAVEN'T FLOWN IN A FEW YEARS, BUT I LOVE
01:36:32AIRPLANES, I LOVE AVIATION WHEN
01:36:34I HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR BUSINESS OR
01:36:36PLEASURE. I JUST LOVE GETTING ON AIRPLANES. I, YOU KNOW, I'M A
01:36:40TOTAL GEEK. AND SO THIS REALLY
01:36:44EXCITED ME. UH, THIS COMPANY
01:36:46CALLED BOOM SUPERSONIC, THEY'VE GOT THIS NEW PLANE CALLED THE
01:36:50OVERTURE. AND IT, IT'S THE HEIR
01:36:54TO THE CONCORDE. IT WILL FLY AT
01:36:571300 MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S ABOUT TWICE THE SPEED OF A NORMAL
01:37:01AIRPLANE OVER WATER. UH, AMERICAN AIRLINES, UNITED
01:37:04AIRLINES, AND JAPAN AIRLINES HAVE ALREADY PREORDERED IT. UH, THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE,
01:37:08UH, IN THE AIR BY 2030. SO JUST,
01:37:12YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
01:37:14AND, UH, THE CONCORDE. I NEVER GOT TO FLY ON THE CONCORDE. I
01:37:18GOT BUMPED OFF A FLIGHT IN LONDON ONCE, AND THE ONLY THING
01:37:22THAT COULD GET ME BACK HOME ON
01:37:24THAT DAY WAS THE CONCORDE. BUT IT WAS. SO, I MEAN, THIS WAS
01:37:27BACK, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO. IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE. I JUST
01:37:29COULDN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW? SO I WAITED A DAY AND TOOK A REGULAR
01:37:33PLANE. BUT IT WAS GROUNDED IN
01:37:372003, UH, AIR FRANCE IN MAY AND BRITISH AIRWAYS IN NOVEMBER. AND THAT WAS THE END OF THE
01:37:40CONCORDE. UM, BUT I AND THE, AND
01:37:44THE COOL THING IS THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO CHARGE NORMAL BUSINESS CLASS FARE,
01:37:48WHICH I REALIZE IS, YOU KNOW, STIFF FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT,
01:37:52UH, I'M EXCITED. I, YOU KNOW, FORGIVE ME FOR BEING A LITTLE
01:37:55KID HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY, JERRY, IN
01:37:59TAMPA, FLORIDA. HEY, JERRY. WHAT'S UP?
01:38:02>> HEY, TOM. UM. I'M JUST. I'M JUST.
01:38:05>> REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT ONE THING, AND I DON'T THINK TRUMP
01:38:08HAS BEEN SPECIFIC ENOUGH IS
01:38:10THAT, UM, I KEEP READING REPORTS
01:38:12WHERE THE MILITARY OR THE NAVY
01:38:15IS ABLE TO TAKE MINDS OUT OF THE
01:38:17STRAIT OF HORMUZ. I THOUGHT ALL
01:38:21ALONG THAT IRAN WAS CONTROLLING, CONTROLLING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. BUT I KEEP READING WHAT
01:38:24I THINK ARE LEGITIMATE REPORTS OF THAT. AND, AND I DON'T GET TO
01:38:28SPEND ALL DAY ON IT. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN I DO ON HERE?
01:38:32>> I DON'T KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO, JERRY. I'VE SEEN THE
01:38:35CONFLICTING REPORTS THERE. THERE
01:38:37ARE REPORTS THAT SOME SHIPS ARE MAKING IT THROUGH AND OTHERS
01:38:40AREN'T. UH, APPARENTLY, IF YOU
01:38:42PAY IRAN AND OMAN, OR AT LEAST IRAN A FEE, THEY WILL LET YOU
01:38:46THROUGH. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THREATENING TO, TO, TO
01:38:49BLOW UP SHIPS THAT GO THROUGH. TRUMP SAYS HE'S BLOCKING THE
01:38:53STRAITS, BUT IT APPEARS THAT
01:38:56SOME STUFF IS GOING THROUGH. AND THAT'S THE STUFF THAT, YOU
01:38:59KNOW, MOSTLY FOR OUR ALLY COUNTRIES LIKE BAHRAIN AND UAE,
01:39:03YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE FOOD AND STUFF. AND APPARENTLY THE WAY
01:39:06THAT THAT'S WORKING IS THAT THEY
01:39:08ARE ACTUALLY PAYING IRAN. AND WE'RE LETTING THEM THROUGH,
01:39:12BECAUSE THERE ARE ALLIES. UM,
01:39:16BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I KNOW
01:39:19THAT WE'RE WAY DOWN. YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED
01:39:22SHIPS A DAY, AND NOW IT'S DOWN
01:39:24IN THE DOZENS. UH, AT THAT. BUT BEYOND THAT, I CAN'T, I CAN'T
01:39:27INFORM YOU. INFORM YOU. JERRY, I'M SORRY.
01:39:31>> I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT THE, THE LOWER ESTIMATES OF
01:39:34WHAT'S GOING THROUGH ARE CORRECT. CAN I SAY SOMETHING
01:39:37ABOUT DOLLY PARTON, TOO, PLEASE?
01:39:40UM, DOLLY. PARTON, I THINK IS OUR GENERATION'S ANDREW
01:39:44CARNEGIE. YOU KNOW, SHE COULD HAVE, SHE, SHE WAS. SHE
01:39:47CERTAINLY DIED A MILLIONAIRE, BUT, UH, BUT SHE COULD HAVE BEEN
01:39:49A BILLIONAIRE OR WHATEVER, BUT
01:39:51SHE CHOSE TO USE HER MONEY TO
01:39:54SPEND IT ON PEOPLE A LOT LESS
01:39:57FORTUNATE THAN SHE WAS AT EVERY TURN. SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS
01:40:01A BENEFACTOR. >> YEAH. SHE WAS RAISING MONEY
01:40:03FOR A CHILDREN'S CANCER CHARITY AS SHE WAS DYING FROM CANCER.
01:40:07UH, YOU KNOW, SHE HELPED FUND THE COVID VACCINE. SHE PUT $1
01:40:10MILLION INTO VACCINE RESEARCH THAT HELPED, THAT HELPED DEVELOP
01:40:13THE MRNA VACCINE. SHE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE ACTUALLY
01:40:16HELPED FUND THAT VACCINE AND
01:40:19DOESN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH CREDIT FOR IT. UH, SHE,
01:40:22AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS JUST A
01:40:23GOOD AND LOVING PERSON. AND, UH,
01:40:27WHAT'S SO BIZARRE IS TRUMP IS TRYING TO CLAIM HER, UH, WHEN SHE WAS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR THE
01:40:31QUEER COMMUNITY AND FOR THE TRANS COMMUNITY. UM, THERE ARE A
01:40:34LOT OF TRANS DOLLY, PARTON
01:40:38IMITATORS, AND SHE LOVED THEM ALL. SO. YEAH. JERRY. THANK YOU.
01:40:41THANKS. SPOT ON. UH, DEAN IN LOS ANGELES. HEY, DEAN, THANKS FOR
01:40:44LISTENING TO KPFK. WHAT'S UP
01:40:49>> IT'S, UH. >> IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE
01:40:51SPOKEN WITH YOU, BUT I, I, UH, I
01:40:54WANTED TO RIFF ON THE, UH, THE
01:40:56POSTAL SERVICE'S, UM, THEIR,
01:40:59THEIR, UH, DECREE THAT JUST GOT
01:41:02BLOCKED BY A JUDGE. RIGHT. UH, THAT'S IN DERRY. TALWANI. AND I
01:41:06WANT TO GIVE HER MY HERO OF THE WEEK AWARD, BECAUSE.
01:41:09>> I'M WITH YOU. >> UH, I FEEL LIKE, UH, YOU
01:41:13KNOW, IN, IN, IN A WAY, SHE
01:41:15REALLY IS THE, THE SINGLE MOST
01:41:20IMPORTANT PERSON I FEEL TO HAVE
01:41:22LITERALLY STOPPED THIS AGENCY FROM BECOMING THE, YOU KNOW,
01:41:25AIDING AND ABETTING. YEAH. AN
01:41:28ACTUAL EXTORTION RING THERE. >> YOU KNOW, IN HER, IN HER
01:41:31DECISION YESTERDAY, SHE SAID
01:41:34THAT THE REASON THAT SHE RULED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT WAS THAT
01:41:37THEY HAD FAILED TO PROVIDE HER
01:41:40WITH ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL, THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PROBLEM OF
01:41:44NONCITIZEN VOTING, THAT THIS WOULD SOLVE.
01:41:46>> THERE YOU KNOW, NON-CITIZENS
01:41:50OR MISTAKEN VOTES OR FRAUDULENT
01:41:52VOTES, EVEN. ARE, YOU KNOW,
01:41:57.0007. >> YEAH, THERE'S NO. >> ONE OUT OF 15 MILLION VOTES. >> YEAH. NO ELECTION IN AMERICAN
01:41:59HISTORY HAS EVER BEEN CHANGED, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T
01:42:02CITIZENS VOTED. I MEAN, THERE'S
01:42:05>> SURE. THAT KIND OF TIES INTO
01:42:07THIS. IF YOU CONSIDER THAT, UH,
01:42:09I THINK IT'S A MISNOMER THAT WE
01:42:11KEEP CALLING NOVEMBER 3rd, THE,
01:42:14UH, THE MIDTERM ELECTION DAY OR A FEDERAL ELECTION DAY. IT'S,
01:42:18IT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE MIDTERM ELECTION THAT ACTUALLY,
01:42:21THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS. THE
01:42:24FIRST MAIL IN BALLOTS WILL BE ACCEPTED A WEEK FROM TODAY.
01:42:27>> YEP. >> IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
01:42:30>> BASICALLY, NORTH CAROLINA. >> NORTH CAROLINA. YEAH. >> SO IN NORTH CAROLINA, AND
01:42:34THEN FOLLOWED WITHIN JUST A FEW
01:42:35DAYS, IT ACTUALLY, WE WILL SEE,
01:42:38UH, OF ALL THINGS ALABAMA. AND,
01:42:42UH, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE UP IN THE NORTHEAST. YEAH. BUT
01:42:46ANYWAY, WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, WHICH IS THE LIMIT THE JUDGE HAD
01:42:50ON THIS 14 DAY, UH, RESTRAINING
01:42:53ORDER, UH, THERE WILL BE TEN
01:42:57STATES ACCEPTING BALLOTS. SO WHAT I SEE IN THAT IS, OKAY, NOW
01:43:01THE SUPREME COURT HAS TO ARGUE
01:43:02IT'S OKAY TO, YOU KNOW,
01:43:06INTERRUPT AND NULLIFY MILLIONS OF VOTES. >> AN ONGOING ELECTION. >> SO MY FEELING IS, YOU KNOW,
01:43:10BOB, OUT IN RALEIGH, I HOPE HE GETS OUT AND VOTES.
01:43:12>> YEAH. MY, MY SENSE OF THIS,
01:43:15DEAN, IS THAT WHILE THEY'RE
01:43:19TRYING TO DO IT FOR THIS ELECTION, THAT THE REAL PLAN HERE FROM REPUBLICANS WHO ARE
01:43:22LOOKING AT THE LONG HORIZON IS FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN
01:43:26TWO YEARS. UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO RIG THE NEXT
01:43:29PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO NOT WANT A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO
01:43:32CAN SIGN LEGISLATION. SO WE'LL.
01:43:35>> SEE, UH, CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE THAT WE GET SOME, UH,
01:43:38SOME, YOU KNOW, EMPOWERED, UH,
01:43:42CONGRESS MEMBERS IN THERE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT THAT. >> I'M WITH YOU, DEAN. THANK
01:43:46YOU. WELL SAID. MARK, IN PANAMA, IN CENTRAL AMERICA. HEY, MARK,
01:43:50THANKS FOR WATCHING US ON YOUTUBE. WHAT'S UP
01:43:54>> UH.
01:43:56>> AN EARLIER CALLER SAID. >> SOMETHING THAT RESONATED THAT
01:43:59WE ALL GET THE SAME HOUR, OR WE ALL GET THE SAME DAY. UM,
01:44:02SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT. >> YEAH. >> SO IT JUST STARTED MAKING ME
01:44:06THINK ONE THING THAT WORKS WHEN I'M TRYING TO DISCUSS WITH
01:44:10PEOPLE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
01:44:15RICH AND WEALTHY. SO A MILLION, MOST PEOPLE THINK A MILLIONAIRE
01:44:18IS RICH. SO 1,000,000 SECONDS IS
01:44:2211.5 DAYS BILLION. SECONDS IS 32
01:44:27YEARS. >> YEAH. >> SO IF YOU THINK THAT.
01:44:30>> THERE'S MORE THAN JUST AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. >> RIGHT.
01:44:33>> RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY. EVERYBODY'S A MILLIONAIRE, BILLIONAIRE, TRILLIONAIRE. IT'S ALL THE
01:44:37SAME. SO A TRILLIONAIRE IS 32000 YEARS. >> EXACTLY.
01:44:41>> IN TIME. PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO
01:44:45TIME. IF YOU SAY YOU'RE STACKING DOLLARS FROM HERE TO THE MOON,
01:44:48IT MEANS NOTHING. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TIME, IF YOU'RE
01:44:50LIKE, OKAY, IS 11 DAYS THE SAME
01:44:54AS 32 YEARS? WELL, NO. AND
01:44:57PEOPLE CAN REALIZE IT'S HALF A LIFETIME COMPARED TO A LONG
01:45:01VACATION. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> EXCELLENT POINT. OKAY.
01:45:04EXCELLENT POINT. MARK. YOU WIN. OUR EDUCATOR OF THE DAY AWARD. >> THANK >> WELL.
01:45:08>> REAL QUICK, I WANT TO PROPOSE
01:45:11YOU'RE USING MORBIDLY RICH. >> MORBIDLY RICH.
01:45:15>> SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO, UH,
01:45:18PROPOSE WANTONLY WEALTHY. >> OKAY.
01:45:20>> UH, BECAUSE, WEALTHY CHRIS
01:45:23ROCK HAS A REALLY GREAT, UH, BIT
01:45:26THAT HE DOES ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RICH AND WEALTHY. AND HE
01:45:29SAYS, SHAQ IS RICH, THE MAN WHO,
01:45:32WHO SIGNS HIS CHECK IS WEALTHY. >> MHM.
01:45:35>> SO PEOPLE WHO FLY FIRST CLASS
01:45:38ARE RICH. THE MAN WHO OWNS THE
01:45:40AIRLINES IS WEALTHY. YEAH. AND
01:45:43THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE, IS NOT
01:45:45SOMEBODY WHO HAS A NICE
01:45:48LIFESTYLE, BUT SOMEBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S,
01:45:51IT'S MORE, UH, IT'S SO ANYWAY,
01:45:56THE WORD WANTON, UH, REFERS TO
01:45:58BEHAVIOR THAT'S MERCILESS, INHUMANE, EXTREME, SHOWING NO
01:46:02CARE FOR OTHERS, OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH CRUELTY OR
01:46:06RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR SAFETY. IT CAN ALSO DESCRIBE SOMEONE WHO
01:46:09IS LEWD, SEXUALLY. >> WHILE THE WANTON WEALTHY.
01:46:13>> WANTONLY WEALTHY. >> A GREAT PHRASE. THANK YOU
01:46:15MARK. THANK YOU. 44.5 MINUTES
01:46:18PAST THE HOUR. BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MINUTE.
01:46:21>> STAY WITH US.
01:46:22>> [MUSIC]
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01:46:48>> [MUSIC]
01:46:58>> WELCOME BACK, RON. AND, UH,
01:47:00OSLO, MINNESOTA. HEY, RON. WHAT'S UP?
01:47:03>> THAT IS CORRECT RON, AND I'M
01:47:05A NICE GUY. HOW YOU DOING TODAY
01:47:10>> WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? >> WELL. >> YOU ASKED ME WHAT TO CALL.
01:47:14UH, THE UBER WEALTHY AND THINGS
01:47:16LIKE THAT. I BECAUSE YOU GOT
01:47:20THAT KIND OF MONEY. YOU SHOULD BE OFF EITHER DOING PHILANTHROPIC, OR YOU SHOULD
01:47:23DEFINITELY NOT BE WORKING TO
01:47:25MAKE MORE MONEY. BECAUSE IF A
01:47:28PERSON HAD $1 BILLION, JUST $1
01:47:30BILLION, AND GAVE YOU A DIME FOR
01:47:33EVERY HUNDRED DOLLARS HE HAD, THING IS JUST GIVE YOU $1
01:47:36MILLION, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME. >> YOU KNOW, WHAT. >> $1 BILLION IS?
01:47:40>> YEAH. RON, DO YOU KNOW WHAT HOARDERS ARE?
01:47:44>> UH, YES. >> HOARDING IS A MENTAL ILLNESS.
01:47:48IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE DIAGNOSTIC AND STATISTICAL
01:47:51MANUAL OF THE AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION. AND IT,
01:47:55THERE'S A, THERE'S A DEBATE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MENTAL
01:47:57ILLNESS IT IS. I THINK IT'S A SUBSET OF OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE
01:48:01DISORDER. BUT WHO KNOWS. BUT IT'S A MENTAL ILLNESS, I WOULD AGREE, AND I WOULD POSIT, AND I
01:48:05HAVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, THAT
01:48:10MOST ALL OF OUR BILLIONAIRES, OR AT LEAST THE VAST MAJORITY OF BILLIONAIRES, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THIS
01:48:14WITH PEOPLE LIKE BILL GATES AND WARREN BUFFETT, WHO ARE WHO ARE
01:48:17COMMITTING TO HAVE COMMITTED TO GIVE AWAY MOST OF THEIR
01:48:20FORTUNES, BUT THAT MOST OF OUR
01:48:23BILLIONAIRES ACTUALLY HAVE THAT MENTAL ILLNESS. AND THAT IS WHAT HAS LED THEM TO BE BILLIONAIRES.
01:48:27THERE'S JUST NEVER ENOUGH FOR. >> THEM.
01:48:31>> I THINK SO, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAY.
01:48:32>> I THINK THEY'RE MISERABLE. >> PEOPLE SOMEWHERE STUFF. LIKE
01:48:36THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE MENTIONED THAT DOLLY EASILY BEEN A
01:48:40BILLIONAIRE HAD SHE NOT BEEN A PHILANTHROPIC.
01:48:43>> YEAH, SHE MADE A HALF MILLION, A HALF $1 BILLION IN
01:48:45HER LIFE. AND SHE GAVE AWAY A
01:48:48WHOLE LOT OF IT. AND, UH, YEAH,
01:48:50ABSOLUTELY. RON. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT POINT. I APPRECIATE
01:48:54THE CALL. BOB, IN RALEIGH, NORTH
01:48:55CAROLINA. HEY, BOB, WHAT'S UP
01:48:59>> BEFORE, BUT I TOLD MATEO I WAS WHEN WE CALLED, I SAID, BOB, WHERE ARE YOU? AND I WAS CALLING
01:49:04BACK AND I THINK AT&T DECIDED TO DO THE FILTERING FOR ME. HOW'S THAT?
01:49:07>> SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? >> HEY, REAL QUICK FOR DEAN.
01:49:11BECK CALLED YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO. IS BOB GOING TO GO OUT AND
01:49:14VOTE GOING COULD GO OUT TO VOTE. WILL GO OUT TO VOTE. IN FACT,
01:49:17YESTERDAY I WAS AT, UH, THE
01:49:19RULES REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR, UH,
01:49:22THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS, STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. AND THE
01:49:25RULES ARE TRYING TO PUT THROUGH.
01:49:27AND I SAID MY PIECE TO SAY NO.
01:49:30SO ANYWAY, I DID THAT. BUT THE
01:49:31REAL REASON I. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE, WE'RE ENGAGED. AND, UH, ALREADY
01:49:35SOME SHENANIGANS ARE COMING UP. IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE
01:49:38REPUBLICAN LED BOARDS, BECAUSE THEY ALL KNOW 3 TO 2 IS TRYING
01:49:41TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC MEMBER THROWN OFF. AND THAT'LL BE THE FIRST HEARING WILL BE SEPTEMBER
01:49:4517th. SO I'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED ON. >> THAT. >> IN NORTH.
01:49:49>> CAROLINA. YES, IN NORTH CAROLINA, NO ONE KNOWS YET ABOUT
01:49:51TILLIS, BUT YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE. I HAVE ASKED A NUMBER OF FOLKS, AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR
01:49:55EARS TO THE GROUND. SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW. WE FIND OUT WHERE HIS
01:49:57NEXT GIG IS GOING TO BE. BUT THE
01:50:00REAL REASON I CALLED WAS, UH, TWO THINGS. ONE IS FOR MEDICAL
01:50:03CARE. I THINK, UM. OH, GOD. UH,
01:50:07FOR, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY. WATCH. UH, ALEX LAWSON HIT IT. AND, BUT
01:50:10ALSO IN MEDICAL CARE IS HOW THE
01:50:13CONTINUITY OF CARE OF THE OLD DAYS. AND I THINK YOU REMEMBER,
01:50:17AND I DO, AND I'LL GIVE A QUICK
01:50:18STORY FROM MY FAMILY IN THAT,
01:50:22UH, YOUR FAMILY PHYSICIAN. I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IT,
01:50:24BUT THAT FAMILY PHYSICIAN KNEW YOU THE BEST.
01:50:26>> OH, YEAH. AND THEY USED TO FOLLOW YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE.
01:50:30>> THERE YOU GO. AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE PRIVILEGES IN THE
01:50:32HOSPITAL. SO NOW, ANYWAY, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY. BUT THAT
01:50:36IS NOT THAT ISN'T THE CASE TODAY. YOU HAVE A HOSPITALIST
01:50:39WHO SAW YOU THE FIRST TIME YOU CAME IN THE DOOR, YEAH. AND THAT
01:50:41WOULD BE JUST CONTINUING THAT, RIGHT. THERE WOULD BE A
01:50:45TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT. >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.
01:50:46I WAS, YOU KNOW, I'M FAMILIAR
01:50:50WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'D NEVER PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER LIKE THAT. BOB. THANK YOU. THAT WAS BRILLIANT. I
01:50:53APPRECIATE THE CALL AND AND KEEP US UP TO DATE ON HOW THE VOTING
01:50:55IS GOING IN NORTH CAROLINA. OKAY. WILL DO. THANKS A LOT.
01:50:59THANK YOU. 49 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
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01:53:49.ORG. >> IT'S
01:53:53>> WAS. IT WAS.
01:53:55>> UH, OKAY, HERE'S MY FUN TO
01:54:04TALK ABOUT THE FOIBLES OF TRUMP AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. THE
01:54:08THING I REALLY WANT TO GET
01:54:10THROUGH IS WE HAVE TO COME UP
01:54:15WITH SOLUTIONS. >> UM.
01:54:17>> WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS. WE NEED
01:54:21TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SOLUTIONS,
01:54:24SUCH AS EXPANDING THE COURT PAYING DOWN THE DEBT.
01:54:27>> YEP.
01:54:29>> CODE OF ETHICS FOR THE COURT
01:54:33>> OH, SURE. YEAH, BUT EXPAND IT. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY
01:54:36WE'RE GOING TO GET AROUND THAT. WE HAVE TO GET 13 JUSTICES. THEY
01:54:40HAVE TO BE LIBERAL. AND THEN WE
01:54:45CAN HAVE A A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. BUT I WANT TO HEAR THE
01:54:49SOLUTIONS, THE SOLUTIONS FOR
01:54:52IMMIGRATION. MHM. I WANT TO HEAR.
01:54:56>> JAMES LANKFORD THE REPUBLICAN, THE REPUBLICAN FROM
01:54:58OKLAHOMA, ACTUALLY WROTE A ALONG WITH SEVERAL DEMOCRATS, BUT HE
01:55:02WAS THE LEAD AUTHOR, WROTE A COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL
01:55:06THAT WOULD HAVE PASSED THE
01:55:08SENATE. IT DID PASS THE HOUSE. AND DONALD OR NO, MAYBE IT
01:55:12DIDN'T PASS THE HOUSE. IT WAS KILLED. ANYHOW, IT WAS GOING TO
01:55:15PASS BOTH BODIES, AND DONALD
01:55:17TRUMP. AND THIS WAS IN 2024, WHEN TRUMP WAS A CANDIDATE. RIGHT? THIS WAS DURING THE
01:55:21DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. AND DONALD TRUMP CAME OUT AND
01:55:25SAID TO THE REPUBLICANS, DO NOT VOTE FOR THAT BILL, BECAUSE I
01:55:27DON'T WANT IMMIGRATION REFORM. I WANT TO GO AFTER THE BROWN
01:55:30PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH THEM. I JUST WANT TO, YOU
01:55:34KNOW, TORTURE THEM. AND, UH, AND
01:55:37SO THE REPUBLICANS DID. SO WE HAD, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
01:55:40FIX THIS, STEVE. AND, AND TRUMP TOOK IT DOWN.
01:55:43>> BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WOULD
01:55:46BE A, THE REPUBLICANS HAD AN
01:55:49OPPORTUNITY TO GET RID OF THIS
01:55:51GUY BEFORE HE DID ALL THIS
01:55:54DAMAGE. OH, YEAH. REPUBLICANS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
01:55:57>> THEY COULD HAVE. THEY COULD HAVE CONVICTED HIM. YEAH. IN THE SENATE TWICE. YEAH. YOU'RE
01:56:01ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND, AND I, I SUSPECT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS
01:56:04GOING TO COME AROUND AGAIN. STEVE. THANK YOU. WELL, SAID. BOB, IN BURLINGTON, VERMONT,
01:56:08HEY, BOB. WHAT'S UP?
01:56:12>> HEY, TOM. UH, I'M CRANKY. I
01:56:14AM CRANKY ABOUT THE SERIOUS
01:56:16THING. ALTHOUGH ELON MUSK GAVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON,
01:56:20UH, TUNE AT TESLA'S, AND I'M
01:56:25CRANKY BECAUSE I WATCHED WEST
01:56:27WING AGAIN, AND IT'S, IT'S
01:56:29DEPRESSING THE NUMBER OF THINGS
01:56:33WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT SHOW. >> AND THAT WAS IN THE.
01:56:36>> 90s, WASN'T. YEAH, YEAH JUST
01:56:43AMAZING. BUT, UH, ONE OF THE BREAKS YOU'RE TAKING, YOU
01:56:47MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, PISTOL PETE
01:56:50HAVING A PRIVATE FORCE OF SOMETHING. UH, THE PROBLEM THAT
01:56:53BOTHERS ME IS EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE
01:56:57COMING OUT, PEOPLE SAY, PASS A
01:56:59LAW ABOUT THIS, PASS A LAW ABOUT
01:57:02THAT. I THINK, UH MECHANISM THAT
01:57:06GETS LAWS ENFORCED DOESN'T EXIST
01:57:09FOR TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
01:57:11AND I ACTUALLY CAME UP THE OTHER
01:57:15DAY THINKING THAT MAYBE THE SUPREME COURT IS DURING THE
01:57:16TRUMP, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL
01:57:21CRISIS, WHERE HE BASICALLY SAYS,
01:57:23YOU KNOW, GO TAKE A HIKE. YEAH.
01:57:25AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S GOT
01:57:28TO BE SOME REASON BECAUSE LOGIC
01:57:31DOES NOT PREVAIL THERE. >> THERE ARE ACTUALLY
01:57:35CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS WHO ARE CITING ANDREW JACKSON AS PRECEDENT AND SAYING, AND
01:57:37ABRAHAM LINCOLN, BOTH OF THEM IGNORED SUPREME COURT DECISIONS. LINCOLN IGNORED DRED SCOTT. UM,
01:57:41YOU KNOW, ANDREW JACKSON IGNORED THE TRAIL OF TEARS AND THE AND
01:57:45THE SECOND NATIONAL BANK. AND, AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT TRUMP
01:57:48SHOULD JUST START IGNORING THE SUPREME COURT AND JUST DOING WHATEVER HE WANTS. THEY CAN'T
01:57:51STOP HIM. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T COMMAND AN ARMY. THEY
01:57:54HAVE NO CONTROL OVER MONEY. AND THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS ARE
01:57:58COMPLETELY SERVILE. SO. >> YEAH, WELL, THAT'S, I MEAN,
01:58:02THE CONSTITUTION WAS PUT TOGETHER BY PEOPLE WHO EXPECTED
01:58:05THERE'D BE, UH, MEN OF GOOD
01:58:08FAITH. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S
01:58:10A DIMINISHING, UH, RESOURCE THESE DAYS.
01:58:13>> WELL, AND THAT'S THE TRAGEDY,
01:58:15IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE
01:58:18HISTORICALLY, I REALIZE WE'VE
01:58:19HAD A LOT OF REALLY SKEEZY POLITICIANS AND POLITICIANS HAVE
01:58:23GOTTEN A BAD RAP OVER THE YEARS. AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD ONES. AND THERE'S SOME,
01:58:27OBVIOUSLY SOME REALLY BAD ONES,
01:58:29BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG,
01:58:34IT'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN SINCE THE CIVIL WAR ERA THAT WE HAVE HAD POLITICIANS WHO ARE
01:58:37JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, SCREW THE LAW. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT
01:58:39CONVENTIONS, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT NORMS, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT
01:58:42MORALITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO
01:58:44WHATEVER THIS RAPIST, CONVICTED,
01:58:47FRAUDSTER, CONVICTED CRIMINAL TELLS US TO DO. UM, IT'S.
01:58:51>> PUT THINGS IN MY POCKET. >> YEAH, EXACTLY. AS LONG, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, HE PUTS
01:58:55THINGS IN HIS POCKET, AND HE SHARES IT WITH THE REST OF US. AND ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS
01:58:58THAT REPUBLICANS ARE OFF ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS THAT TRUMP HAS
01:59:01RAISED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR HIS SUPER PAC. AND IT'S A LEADERSHIP PAC, WHICH
01:59:05MEANS HE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY WITH HIM AFTER HE LEAVES OFFICE.
01:59:10AND HE THE ONLY AMOUNT OF IT THAT HE'S SPENT WAS $800,000 TO
01:59:12SUPPORT DARLINE GRAHAM. SO, UH,
01:59:14YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY UPSET THAT HE'S NOT PUTTING MONEY INTO THESE RACES. LIKE, YOU
01:59:18KNOW, FOR, FOR KEN PAXTON AND WHATNOT. ANYHOW, BOB, THANKS FOR
01:59:21THE CALL. IN FACT, HE WENT DOWN TO TEXAS AND DID MORE
01:59:24FUNDRAISING. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
01:59:28>> YOU'RE LISTENING.
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02:01:56STORIES FROM THE FAIR'S PAST, AND AN UP CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH. >> THERE'S AN ICE THUG BY THE NAME OF CHRISTIAN CASTRO, WHO
02:02:00WAS UP IN MINNEAPOLIS AS PART OF
02:02:03OPERATION METRO SURGE, WHERE THEY KILLED RENEE GOOD, AND THEY
02:02:07KILLED ALEX PRETTI, AND THEY WOUNDED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO
02:02:10PROSECUTE PEOPLE FOR KEEPING TRACK OF THEM. AND HE WAS
02:02:14CHASING A GUY DOWN, AND THE GUY RAN INTO HIS HOUSE, AND HE SHOT
02:02:18THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR AND SHOT
02:02:19THIS GUY IN THE LEG. AND THE
02:02:24BULLET LODGED IN HIS CHILD'S BEDROOM, WHICH IS AGAINST THE
02:02:27LAW. LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SHOOT
02:02:31THROUGH DOORS. YOU KNOW, JUST YOU DON'T DO IT. AND THEN HE
02:02:35FLED. HE WAS ACTUALLY ICE HELPED HIM. THEY TRANSPORTED HIM DOWN
02:02:38TO TEXAS. SO THE GOVERNOR OF
02:02:41MINNESOTA ISSUED AN EXTRADITION
02:02:44ORDER. NOW, THERE IS A CLAUSE, A
02:02:48SENTENCE IN THE CONSTITUTION
02:02:51THAT SAYS, IF ANY STATE HAS A
02:02:55FUGITIVE FROM THAT STATE, THE
02:02:56STATE TO WHICH THEY GO MUST,
02:03:01MUST GIVE THAT ORIGINAL STATE
02:03:03THE, THE, THE, THE, THE STATE THAT THEY FLED MUST SEND THAT
02:03:07PERSON BACK TO THEM. SO THIS GUY
02:03:12GOES DOWN TO TEXAS AND, UH, YOU
02:03:16KNOW, THE GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA,
02:03:19UH, YOU KNOW, TIM WALZ SAYS TO
02:03:23THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, GREG
02:03:26ABBOTT, SEND HIM UP HERE,
02:03:27HERE'S AN EXTRADITION ORDER.
02:03:31SEND HIM UP HERE. AND GREG ABBOTT SAYS, WELL, LET ME THINK ABOUT THIS. NOW, HERE'S THE
02:03:34DEAL. YOU CAN ONLY HOLD SOMEBODY
02:03:36FOR IMMIGRATION IN TEXAS. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS TEXAS LAW
02:03:40OR FEDERAL LAW. I'M ASSUMING IT'S TEXAS LAW. YOU CAN ONLY
02:03:43HOLD THEM FOR 60 DAYS. AND IF
02:03:46YOU DON'T, IF THEY'RE NOT EXTRADITED BY THE END OF THE 60
02:03:48DAYS, THEY GET TO WALK. AND SO
02:03:51GREG ABBOTT DID, WAS INSTEAD OF SAYING YES OR NO, BECAUSE HE
02:03:54CAN'T SAY NO, THE CONSTITUTION
02:03:56REQUIRES HIM TO SEND THIS GUY.
02:03:59HE SAID, WELL, LET ME THINK
02:04:01ABOUT IT FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN 60 DAYS. THE GUY'S NAME IS
02:04:05CHRISTIAN CASTRO. HE'S APPARENTLY BILINGUAL. HE'S
02:04:08BEEN. WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL, HE HAS BEEN TALKING TO HIS
02:04:11GIRLFRIEND, WHO IS IN MEXICO,
02:04:13ABOUT BUYING A HOUSE IN MEXICO
02:04:17AND RETIRING TO MEXICO. SO THIS
02:04:19GUY'S A FLIGHT RISK. HE'S A
02:04:22CRIMINAL OR AN ACCUSED CRIMINAL
02:04:27AND HE JUST GOT LET GO YESTERDAY. THE 60 DAYS EXPIRED,
02:04:30AND GREG ABBOTT STILL HADN'T DONE ANYTHING. AND IT WENT
02:04:33BEFORE A FEDERAL JUDGE. AND THE FEDERAL JUDGE WAS LIKE, YOU
02:04:37KNOW, YEAH, YOU SHOULD HAVE SENT HIM TO MINNESOTA, BUT YOU DIDN'T. AND I CAN'T, YOU KNOW,
02:04:40THIS, THIS KIND OF WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH,
02:04:44YOU DO HAVE TO RELEASE HIM AFTER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST
02:04:46WHAT THE LAW SAYS. AND, I MEAN,
02:04:49YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE JUDGE IGNORED THE CONSTITUTION. I
02:04:51WOULD ARGUE THAT. BUT, UM, YOU
02:04:54KNOW, WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE
02:04:56NUANCES OF IT, BUT, UH, THIS GUY
02:04:59IS, IN FACT, THE GOVERNOR SAID IN A RECENT COURT FILING THAT
02:05:03HIS OFFICE IS STILL DETERMINING THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF
02:05:06WHETHER HE SHOULD BE EXTRADITED
02:05:11IT'S WILD STUFF. SO HERE YOU'VE GOT ICE. YOU'VE GOT AN ICE
02:05:13CRIMINAL, ALLEGED CRIMINAL WHO
02:05:17COMMITTED A CRIME IN MINNESOTA,
02:05:20FLED TO TEXAS, AND TEXAS IS PROTECTING THIS GUY. AND HE GOT
02:05:24JUST GOT LET LOOSE. AND IT SURE DOES LOOK LIKE HE'S GOING TO RUN
02:05:28TO MEXICO TO AVOID PROSECUTION
02:05:32AND THAT HE'S GOT THIS THIS, THIS THING. IN FACT, MINNESOTA
02:05:35OFFICIAL. THIS IS FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, QUOTING FROM
02:05:40THE WASHINGTON POST. MINNESOTA
02:05:42OFFICIALS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT CASTRO WILL FLEE TO MEXICO
02:05:45TO EVADE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. CASTRO MADE NUMEROUS CALLS FROM
02:05:49JAIL TO A WOMAN IN MEXICO,
02:05:50ACCORDING TO STATE PROSECUTORS. THE PAIR ARE IN A ROMANTIC
02:05:54RELATIONSHIP, THE INVESTIGATOR STATED, AND CASTRO EXPRESSED AN
02:05:58INTEREST IN MARRYING HER ONCE HE
02:05:59IS RELEASED. HE ALSO DESCRIBED WANTING TO BUY A HOUSE IN MEXICO
02:06:03TO RETIRE. THERE AND HE'S
02:06:06CHARGED WITH SHOOTING AND
02:06:08INJURING A GUY NAMED JULIO CESAR
02:06:11SOSA-CELIS, WHO WAS A VENEZUELAN
02:06:13IMMIGRANT AND, UH, GREG ABBOTT
02:06:19SAYS HE'S NOT GOING TO RESPOND UNTIL THIS THIS IS WHERE IT GETS
02:06:22REALLY RICH. GREG ABBOTT SAYS,
02:06:24I'M NOT GOING TO SEND THIS GUY
02:06:28BACK TO MINNESOTA UNTIL YOU CLEAN UP YOUR PROBLEM OF BLACK
02:06:31PEOPLE COMMITTING MEDICAID FRAUD IN MINNESOTA, WHICH IS A
02:06:35COMPLETELY MADE UP THING. AS THE POLITIC CHICKS WERE TALKING
02:06:38ABOUT ON THIS PROGRAM A COUPLE
02:06:40DAYS AGO YES, THERE WAS MEDICAID
02:06:44FRAUD IN MINNESOTA. IT WAS BECAUSE WHEN THE REPUBLICANS
02:06:46CONTROLLED THE LEGISLATURE, THEY
02:06:48CHANGED THE RULES SO THAT MEDICAID FRAUD COULD ACTUALLY
02:06:51HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, WALTZ
02:06:54CAME IN AND TRIED TO FIX IT. AND IN FACT, DID FIX IT. BUT NOW,
02:06:58NOW YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE
02:06:59FEDS GOING, OH, IT'S THOSE IT'S THOSE SOMALI IMMIGRANTS. WELL,
02:07:03THE SOMALI, YES. THERE WAS A SOMALI IMMIGRANT WHO WAS
02:07:06INVOLVED IN A FRAUD, BUT THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF WHITE
02:07:09PEOPLE COMMITTING FRAUD, TOO. AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE GOT
02:07:12THAT FIXED. BUT ANYHOW, GREG ABBOTT SAYS, I WILL NOT RESPOND
02:07:16UNTIL MINNESOTA PROSECUTORS ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR FAULT. THAT'S
02:07:20HIS EXACT PHRASE IN INCIDENTS OF FRAUD INVOLVING THE DEMOCRATIC
02:07:24LED STATES, PUBLIC SERVICES STANFORD SANFORD LEVINSON,
02:07:27WHO'S A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LAW SCHOOL
02:07:30IN AUSTIN. HE SAYS, THAT'S LIKE SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO
02:07:34EXTRADITE ANYONE TO MAINE UNTIL
02:07:35THEY STOP KILLING INNOCENT
02:07:38LOBSTERS. HEH, SO KEEP AN EYE ON
02:07:45THIS ONE. KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
02:07:48I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
02:07:52>> [MUSIC]
02:07:59>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM >> [MUSIC]. >> HEY, WELCOME. >> BACK TO THE THIRD HOUR OF ANYTHING GOES WEEKEND HERE ON
02:08:03THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. AFTER
02:08:05DAYS OF BASHING TRUMP MEDIA
02:08:07REPORTS, JELLY ROLL TEARS UP AS
02:08:10HIS AS HE PLEADS TO A DIVIDED AMERICA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT THIS. THIS WAS JIMMY
02:08:14KIMMEL'S SHOW LAST NIGHT, AND IT WAS HIS LAST NIGHT GUEST
02:08:18HOSTING JELLY ROLL, THE COUNTRY
02:08:21WESTERN STAR, WHO IS, UH,
02:08:23ACTUALLY JUST A REALLY SWEET AND
02:08:27REALLY SMART GUY. AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAD MET TRUMP A YEAR OR SO AGO, WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE,
02:08:30SHOOK HIS HAND. HE'S A COUNTRY WESTERN GUY. EVERYBODY ASSUMED
02:08:34HE WAS A RIGHT WINGER BECAUSE COUNTRY WESTERN, ALTHOUGH DOLLY
02:08:37PARTON WAS A COUNTRY WESTERN.
02:08:41UM, BUT ANYHOW, HE, UH, HE'S
02:08:43BEEN MAKING JOKES ABOUT TRUMP. AND SO MAGA IS ALL OFF AT HIM.
02:08:47AND, AND SO HE, AND HE, AND HE
02:08:50TALKED ABOUT HOW HE LIKED
02:08:52WATCHING THAT, UH, MFA FIGHT OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, ON THE
02:08:55WHITE HOUSE LAWN, BECAUSE HE
02:08:59FOLLOWS THAT SPORT. SO ANYHOW, HE SAYS, UH, JUST BECAUSE I
02:09:02WATCHED A FIGHT ON TV DOESN'T MEAN I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THIS
02:09:06ADMINISTRATION DOES. JUST LIKE HOSTING JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW, DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE ALL OF JIMMY KIMMEL'S POLITICS. SURE,
02:09:09I LEAN LEFT ON SOME THINGS, BUT LIKE MOST FOLKS, I'M PRETTY DOWN THE MIDDLE. I'M A CHRISTIAN,
02:09:13I'M A COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER, I'M A FARMER, I'M A BOW HUNTER. AND MOST OF THE THINGS I
02:09:17EAT, I PREFER TO GET WITH A STICK AND A STRING. THAT'S THE
02:09:21TRUTH. SO HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE STARTS OUT BY TALKING ABOUT HOW,
02:09:24YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S NOT THE
02:09:26CARICATURE ON EITHER THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT, WHICH I THINK IS
02:09:29TRUE OF MOST OF US. I CONSIDER
02:09:32MYSELF A CHRISTIAN, FOR EXAMPLE.
02:09:35AND BUT THEN HE GOES INTO THIS.
02:09:39HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIS
02:09:42FATHER AND HOW, UH, HIS FATHER
02:09:45BASICALLY, HE SAYS, MY DADDY TOLD ME, IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO
02:09:48DO THE RIGHT THING. SO NOW I'M GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
02:09:51BECAUSE HUMAN DIGNITY ISN'T REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC,
02:09:55COMPASSION ISN'T LEFT WING, AND MERCY ISN'T RIGHT WING. PAIN
02:09:58AND HEALING KNOWS NO PARTIZANSHIP HURTING HEARTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN POLL
02:10:02NUMBERS, AND THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES OR BORDERS FOR BROKEN
02:10:05FAMILIES. AND HE SAID MY FATHER
02:10:08WOULD HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED HAD I DONE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. HE'S TALKING ABOUT SHAKING
02:10:12TRUMP'S HAND AND IT JUST IT
02:10:14JUST REMINDED ME, I REMEMBER WHEN MY FATHER DIED, MY DAD WAS
02:10:18A REPUBLICAN HIS WHOLE LIFE, A REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST. HE HATED
02:10:22FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT. MY
02:10:24GRANDFATHER, HIS FATHER WAS A
02:10:27HARDCORE FDR DEMOCRAT. SO I
02:10:30THINK MY DAD REBELLED. YOU KNOW,
02:10:32BUT, UH, BUT MY DAD WAS A GOOD
02:10:35MAN AND A DECENT PERSON. AND I LOVED MY FATHER. WE, WE, YOU
02:10:38KNOW, WE HAD OUR CONFLICTS. AND,
02:10:42BUT MOST, THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR LIFE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF
02:10:45JUST LITERALLY A FEW MONTHS,
02:10:46WHEN I TURNED 16, UM, HE WAS
02:10:50ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME. AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS
02:10:53DYING, WE WERE AT HIS HOME IN LANSING. HE DIED IN HIS LIVING
02:10:57ROOM, UM, ON A, ON A COT. IT WAS
02:11:00HOSPICE CARE, YOU KNOW AND, UM,
02:11:03AS HE WAS DYING, I WAS SITTING THERE WITH MY THREE BROTHERS AND
02:11:07A COUPLE OF OUR WIVES. AND, AND, UH, MY MOM WAS ACTUALLY ASLEEP
02:11:10WHEN THIS HAPPENED. AND I SAT
02:11:13THERE WITH MY HAND ON HIS SHOULDER. AND I LOOKED ACROSS
02:11:17HIM AND THERE ON THE WALL, RIGHT
02:11:20ON THE OPPOSITE HIM, OPPOSITE ME, WERE HIS TWO FAVORITE PICTURES THAT HE HAD PINNED UP
02:11:24ON THE WALL. UM, ONE WAS GEORGE
02:11:27W BUSH ON THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, DECLARING, MISSION
02:11:31ACCOMPLISHED IN IRAQ. AND THE OTHER WAS ME SHAKING HANDS WITH
02:11:34POPE JOHN PAUL THE SECOND, BECAUSE THE POPE HAD INVITED ME
02:11:37FOR A PRIVATE AUDIENCE. AND LOUISE AND I WENT OVER AND, IN
02:11:40FACT, THE POPE MET WITH LOUISE TO. SHOOK HER HAND, WHICH WE
02:11:44WERE TOLD WOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
02:11:49AND IT JUST, IT JUST REMINDED ME. AND, YOU KNOW, MY DAD AND I HAD COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
02:11:53POLITICS, LITERALLY, TO THE DAY HE DIED. BUT WE ALWAYS GOT
02:11:56ALONG. WE ALWAYS LOVED EACH OTHER. AND THE POINT THAT
02:12:00JELLYROLL MADE LAST NIGHT, THAT REALLY GOT ME, HE SAID, YOU
02:12:03KNOW, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW HIS FATHER AND HIS FATHER'S
02:12:06BROTHER, HIS UNCLE, WELL, HIS
02:12:10FATHER WAS A DEMOCRAT, AND HIS UNCLE WAS A REPUBLICAN. AND THEY
02:12:12WERE BOTH, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL
02:12:16BELIEFS. AND HE ONCE ASKED, ASKED HIS DAD, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GUYS GET ALONG WHEN YOU'RE
02:12:20SO DIFFERENT POLITICALLY? AND HIS DAD SAID, WELL, THERE'S 100
02:12:23THINGS THAT WE AGREE ON.
02:12:24THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE THAT WE
02:12:28DISAGREE ON, WHICH ARE THE POLITICS. YOU KNOW, WE LOVE OUR FAMILIES. WE WE CARE ABOUT EACH
02:12:32OTHER. WE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO
02:12:35THROUGH THE LIST. AND IT JUST RESONATED WITH ME. AND I WANTED
02:12:38TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MONOLOGUE,
02:12:42IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTES. IT'S ON YOUTUBE. YOU
02:12:46CAN FIND IT REAL EASY. UM, IT'S SUCH A TOUCHING MOMENT, YOU KNOW, HE TEARED UP A COUPLE OF
02:12:49TIMES. HE DIDN'T START SOBBING, BUT HE HAD TEARS RUNNING DOWN
02:12:53HIS FACE AS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
02:12:56HIS FATHER. AND HIS FATHER DIED
02:12:59FAIRLY RECENTLY, JUST, I THINK,
02:13:01IN 2019, HE SAID, MY FATHER DIED IN 2006. IT'S A LITTLE MORE
02:13:05DISTANT FOR ME. 20 YEARS AGO. SO
02:13:09ANYWAY, THERE'S THAT. THE OTHER STORY I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU
02:13:12IS THAT, YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP
02:13:13JUST GOT AUTHORIZED TO HAVE A
02:13:17BANK. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? WELL, IT GETS EVEN
02:13:20WEIRDER. THE, THE BANK, THE
02:13:23FEDERALLY AUTHORIZED BANK THAT
02:13:26DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE
02:13:29THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO ISSUE
02:13:32CRYPTO AS A CURRENCY BACKED UP
02:13:34BY U.S. DOLLARS. THAT BANK IS
02:13:4149% OWNED BY THE SPY CHIEF FOR
02:13:44ABU DHABI, FOR THE UNITED ARAB
02:13:47EMIRATES. THE SPY CHIEF HIMSELF,
02:13:50PERSONALLY, HE'S A BILLIONAIRE.
02:13:51HE'S GOT A HE OVERSEES A $1.3
02:13:55TRILLION EMPIRE. HE GAVE DONALD
02:14:00TRUMP A HALF $1 BILLION. THAT
02:14:01ALL WENT RIGHT INTO DONALD
02:14:06TRUMP'S POCKET. AND WAS USED TO TO FUND THIS THING IN THE
02:14:09BEGINNING. AND $500 MILLION
02:14:12INVESTMENT IN WORLD LIBERTY
02:14:14FINANCIAL IN EXCHANGE FOR A 49%
02:14:16STAKE IN THE COMPANY I'M TRYING
02:14:19TO WONDER. I'M THINKING. GIVEN
02:14:26ALL THE REPUBLICAN HYSTERIA ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN TAKING $1 MILLION A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS
02:14:30FROM A GAS COMPANY IN UKRAINE,
02:14:33BURISMA, AND HOW THAT WAS SO CORRUPT. AND JOE BIDEN SHOULD
02:14:36HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED FOR THAT. THERE WAS MULTIPLE IMPEACHMENT
02:14:40RESOLUTIONS THAT REPUBLICANS PUT FORWARD BECAUSE OF WHAT HIS SON
02:14:44DID. AND BY THE WAY, THAT WAS
02:14:45BACK WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT.
02:14:50THEY WERE SO, YOU KNOW, SELF-RIGHTEOUS ABOUT THIS. OH,
02:14:53MY GOD, THE CORRUPTION. LOOK AT
02:14:54THAT. HE TOOK $5 MILLION. HERE
02:14:58IS A SPY CHIEF FOR A FOREIGN COUNTRY THAT HAS A MUTUAL
02:15:02DEFENSE TREATY WITH CHINA, THAT
02:15:07DOES BUSINESS WITH RUSSIA OWNING HALF OF THE 49% OF THE BANK THAT
02:15:11THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES STARTED AFTER HE BECAME
02:15:14PRESIDENT I MEAN, WHAT THE HELL
02:15:17IS UP WITH THIS? AND WHY AREN'T
02:15:22WE HEARING MORE ABOUT IT? I MEAN, THIS IS IN THE WALL STREET
02:15:26JOURNAL, RIGHT? YESTERDAY'S WALL
02:15:26STREET JOURNAL, THE ABU DHABI
02:15:30ROYAL, SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE SPY SHEIK, IS A MAJOR SHAREHOLDER BACKING A NEW U.S.
02:15:34BANK. THE TRUMP FAMILY'S
02:15:36CRYPTOCURRENCY VENTURE IS PREPARING TO LAUNCH SHEIKH TOM
02:15:39HOMAN BIN ZAYED AL NAHYAN AND CO-INVESTORS ARE BEHIND AN
02:15:43ENTITY THAT OWNS THE LARGEST, A 49%, IN THE HOLDING COMPANY, THE
02:15:46WORLD LIBERTY FINANCIAL, BLAH DE
02:15:48BLAH DE BLAH. THE SHEIKH LAST YEAR BACKED A $500 MILLION
02:15:52INVESTMENT INTO WORLD LIBERTY FINANCIAL IN EXCHANGE FOR 49%.
02:15:55TAHOUN SERVES AS THE UAE'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND
02:15:58HIS BROTHER TO THE COUNTRY'S
02:16:01PRESIDENT. NEPOTISM MUCH HE OVERSEES MORE THAN A $1.3
02:16:05TRILLION EMPIRE, FUNDED BY HIS
02:16:07PERSONAL FORTUNE. OUR PRESIDENT
02:16:13IS FOR SALE. OUR COUNTRY IS FOR
02:16:17SALE, AND DONALD TRUMP IS SITTING AROUND CHANGING THE NAME
02:16:20OF LAKE ONTARIO. I MEAN, IT'S
02:16:24JUST SO FRIGGIN WEIRD. AND WHAT'S SO ASTONISHINGLY WEIRD
02:16:27ABOUT. IT IS THAT REPUBLICANS
02:16:30AREN'T OBJECTING TO THIS. REPUBLICANS AREN'T TALKING
02:16:34ABOUT THE FACT THAT ABOUT A QUARTER, MAYBE AS MUCH AS A
02:16:36THIRD OF THE ENTIRE NATIONAL
02:16:38DEBT, HAS BEEN RUN UP BY ONE
02:16:41PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, THAT THAT THIS GUY WAS CONVICTED OF
02:16:45FRAUD. AND THE ONLY REASON HE DIDN'T GO TO JAIL IS BECAUSE HE
02:16:48GOT ELECTED PRESIDENT. WHERE'S
02:16:52THE GOP? >> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. >> WHERE ARE.
02:16:56>> THESE GREAT MORALISTS ANYHOW? THAT'S MY RANT. WHAT'S ON YOUR
02:16:59MIND? I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS
02:17:01AFTER THE BREAK
02:17:06>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
02:17:18>> AND WELCOME BACK. AND LET'S SEE HERE, STEVE IN PHOENIX,
02:17:22ARIZONA. HEY, STEVE, WHAT'S ON
02:17:24YOUR MIND? HOW'S THE HEAT THERE? >> OH, CHRIST
02:17:28>> THAT BAD, HUH >> WE WERE OVER IN LA LAST WEEK,
02:17:31AND IT WAS A LITTLE BETTER OVER THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, TRY AND BE
02:17:34DOWN BY THE BEACH AND STUFF, BUT IT'S IT'S INSANE. I CAN'T WAIT
02:17:37TILL WE GO BACK TO WISCONSIN IN THE LATE FALL. IN NOVEMBER,
02:17:41BECAUSE, UH, WE GET A JUMP ON FALL ON HERE. YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE COME BACK, IT'S A
02:17:45LITTLE BETTER. >> BUT WAIT A MINUTE, YOU DO IT. YOU DO THE OPPOSITE OF MOST PEOPLE. YOU SPEND THE SUMMER IN
02:17:48ARIZONA AND THE WINTERS IN, IN WISCONSIN.
02:17:51>> NO, NO, NO, WE'RE HERE FULL TIME. OH, WE'RE FULL TIME.
02:17:54WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 88. BUT, UM, WE GO OVER TO LA ONCE OR
02:17:58TWICE IN THE SUMMER FOR A WEEK
02:18:01AND BACK TO MADISON AND KENOSHA AND ROSEMONT, ILLINOIS, FOR
02:18:05ABOUT A WEEK IN THE NOVEMBER TO GET, YOU. >> KNOW, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE GETTING REALLY WHACKED,
02:18:09BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU CALLED ABOUT. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND.
02:18:12>> NO, NO. GOOD. GOOD RANT. WHAT YOU JUST HAD THERE. YOU GOOD,
02:18:15GOOD TOPICS. THEY'RE ALL PERFECT. UM, I HAVE A SOLUTION
02:18:18FOR, UM, SOCIAL SECURITY. WITH WHAT ALEX LAWSON, UH, SPOKE
02:18:22ABOUT, BUT I'D LIKE TO. THREE QUICK LITTLE TIDBITS. NUMBER
02:18:25ONE, UM, I'M NOT REALLY A
02:18:26COUNTRY MUSIC FAN, BUT THE
02:18:30SALUTES TREMENDOUSLY TO DOLLY PARTON. SHE'S A WONDERFUL
02:18:34PERSON. NUMBER TWO, LES MOONVES
02:18:36BACK IN THE DAY, A WHILE AGO, HE
02:18:38SAID, UH, UH, DONALD TRUMP MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, BUT
02:18:41HE SURE IS FOR CBS, RIGHT? WELL,
02:18:44HE WAS WRONG ON BOTH PARTS. LOOK
02:18:47WHERE CBS IS NOW, AND LOOK WHERE THE COUNTRY IS. YEAH. >> YOU'RE RIGHT. NUMBER THREE,
02:18:50LES THINKS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW,
02:18:52THE, THE, THE, THE ORACLE, YOU KNOW, THE ELLISON FAMILY AND THE
02:18:55DAMAGE THEY'RE DOING THERE. OKAY. NUMBER THREE. >> OH, GOD. IT'S NUMBER THREE.
02:18:59UH, DONALD TRUMP AND PUNDITS TO
02:19:02MARRY TRUMP AND SALUTE TO HER.
02:19:04UM, YOU AND ME, SPEAKING ABOUT
02:19:07THIS FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS
02:19:10OWNED BY, UH, RUSSIA AND PUTIN.
02:19:13AND IT'S, IT'S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS
02:19:16DECISION HE'S MADE RIGHT ACROSS
02:19:18THE BOARD. AND I'M REALLY
02:19:21DISHEARTENED THAT THE LEGACY
02:19:22NETWORK, CBS, NBC, ABC CANNOT DO
02:19:26SOME REPORTING ON THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE CABLE NETWORKS,
02:19:29Ms NOW, MSNBC AND CNN, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S TRAGIC.
02:19:32>> OH, THEY'RE AFRAID TO EVEN IMPLY THAT HE'S OWNED BY PUTIN.
02:19:35AND YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S SO OBVIOUS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST SO
02:19:38OBVIOUS. AND WE KNOW HOW HE GOT OWNED. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YEAH,
02:19:41THERE MIGHT BE A PEE PEE TAPE OR THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW,
02:19:44SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT BUT THE
02:19:46RUSSIAN MAFIA LAUNDERED
02:19:49MILLIONS, MAYBE EVEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH TRUMP REAL
02:19:52ESTATE. I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT'S HOW THEY STAYED AFLOAT. AND BOTH OF HIS SONS HAVE JUST SAID SO
02:19:56OUT LOUD, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW.
02:20:00>> YEAH, YEAH. >> THEY SAID, WE GET OUR MONEY. DIDN'T UDAY OR QUSAY SAY, UH,
02:20:04WE GOT OUR, WE GOT OUR MONEY FROM RUSSIA. >> ONE OF THEM SAID, WE DON'T
02:20:08NEED BANKS ANYMORE. WE GET ALL OUR MONEY FROM RUSSIA. AND THE
02:20:10OTHER ONE SAID, WE'RE GETTING MASSIVE INVESTMENTS OR WORDS TO
02:20:13THAT EFFECT FROM RUSSIA. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. A DIFFERENT TIMES.
02:20:17THERE YOU GO. DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT YEAH, BOTH OF THEM HAVE SAID THAT BOTH UDAY
02:20:20AND QUSAY AND, AND.
02:20:23>> IT'S ALL LAID OUT THERE. >> AND WHERE ARE THE ANTI-COMMUNIST REPUBLICANS?
02:20:26WHERE, WHERE ARE THE ANTI-FASCIST REPUBLICANS? I REALIZE. >> I DON'T KNOW, THEY.
02:20:30>> THEY'RE IN HIDING, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST STUNNING.
02:20:34>> OR THEY'RE EMBRACING FASCISM. THEY'RE JUST. >> THEY'RE MAYBE ON THE TAKE TO
02:20:38PROBABLY, YOU KNOW.
02:20:40>> I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING, THAT'S THE GRAND SECRET IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
02:20:44IS THAT IF YOU GET ELECTED AS A REPUBLICAN, YOU WILL RETIRE
02:20:48RICH. AND WHEN YOU RETIRE, WHEN YOU LEAVE OFFICE, YOU WILL HAVE
02:20:52OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL MAKE YOU EVEN RICHER. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT'S WHY SO MANY OF THEM ARE DOING IT. AND I THINK
02:20:55IT'S WHY, WHY THEY DON'T LAST THAT LONG. STEVE, I GOT TO RUN.
02:20:58BUT THANKS FOR THE CALL. >> SPOT ON. >> IT'S 19 MINUTES PAST THE
02:21:02HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN
02:21:0360s.
02:21:07>> STAY TUNED
02:21:08>> [MUSIC]
02:21:22[MUSIC]
02:21:31[MUSIC] >> TIRED OF NEWS THAT PROTECTS THE POWERFUL? GET REPORTING WITH
02:21:34A BACKBONE AT THE COMMONWEALTH. REPORT. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT
02:21:38THE POWERFUL. TWICE DAILY VISIT.
02:21:40COMMONWEALTH REPORT. >> DOT.
02:21:44>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
02:21:48HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
02:21:51MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
02:21:53C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
02:21:56COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
02:22:00COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
02:22:02COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
02:22:04COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
02:22:08C-SPAN, TWO.
02:22:14>> MY COAT OF MANY COLORS, I HURRIED OFF TO SCHOOL JUST TO
02:22:17FIND THE OTHERS LAUGHING AND MAKING FUN OF ME IN MY COAT OF
02:22:21MANY COLORS THAT MAMA MADE FOR
02:22:24ME IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS
02:22:32ONLY FROM RAGS. BUT I WORE IT SO
02:22:34PROUDLY. AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD NO
02:22:39MONEY, I WAS RICH AS I COULD BE.
02:22:43IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS. MAMA
02:22:49ME. >> DOLLY PARTON. READING AND SINGING TO CHILDREN. IN A 2018
02:22:52APPEARANCE ON C-SPAN, THE TENNESSEE NATIVE, WHO DIED THIS
02:22:55WEEK AT THE AGE OF 80, HAS DONATED MORE THAN 300 MILLION
02:22:58BOOKS TO CHILDREN AS PART OF HER
02:23:02IMAGINATION LIBRARY PROGRAM. ON SATURDAY, WE'LL REMEMBER THE
02:23:05LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOLLY PARTON
02:23:07THROUGH HER APPEARANCES ON
02:23:10C-SPAN. WATCH AT 8 P.M.
02:23:13>> THAT'S AWESOME MAN. I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT LOOK, LOOK, WHAT I'M. WHAT I'M CALLING
02:23:17ABOUT IS THAT YOU REMEMBER THE
02:23:19LAST CHARADE THAT TRUMP HAD WITH
02:23:21CANADA, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE
02:23:23OTHERS THAT AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME AND, AND CANADA KIND OF
02:23:27LIKE, REMINDED OF TRUMP AND
02:23:31AMERICA THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SUPPLY ELECTRIC TO CERTAIN PARTS
02:23:35OF THE UNITED STATES. >> YEAH. THERE'S LIKE FIVE STATES THAT GET A GOOD CHUNK OF THEIR ELECTRICITY FROM CANADA. I
02:23:39MEAN, CANADA, IF THEY REALLY WANT IT, THEY COULD HAVE US BY
02:23:41THE SHORT HAIRS, YOU KNOW? >> YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT
02:23:45TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO NOW, HE'S TRYING TO POKE THE PRIME
02:23:47MINISTER. HE TRYING TO HOPING
02:23:50THAT HE CAN GET UP UNDER HIS SKIN, THAT HE JUST HIT THE
02:23:53LIGHTS BEFORE THE ELECTIONS.
02:23:55RIGHT. MHM. SO I'M ASKING THE
02:23:58PRIME MINISTER, LOOK, DON'T CUT
02:24:00OUT THE LIGHTS BECAUSE ONCE WE
02:24:04GET A CHANCE TO VOTE, WE GOING
02:24:06TO IMPEACH HIM OUT OF THE UNITED
02:24:11STATES. SO THAT'S WHAT I HOPE THE PRIME MINISTER DON'T FALL INTO THE TRAP, BECAUSE ALL THIS
02:24:15IS JUST AN ILLUSION. ANYWAY,
02:24:19BECAUSE I I'M LIKE YOU AND JAMIE AND THE REST OF THE VIEWERS. I'M A CHRISTIAN AS
02:24:23WELL. AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE
02:24:25TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT SAY, AMEN. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I
02:24:29LISTEN TO THIS GUY ON THE FLOOR.
02:24:3233. I LOVE HIM, TOM. I, I I PRAY
02:24:35THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE ON DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE
02:24:39PEOPLE TO INFORM, BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS WISDOM. AND I THANK
02:24:43YOU, MAN, I REALLY DO. >> THANK YOU, LOUIS. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR KIND
02:24:47WORDS AND SPOT. AND I AGREE WITH
02:24:48YOU ON CANADA. SPOT ON. THANK YOU. DOUG IN PORTLAND. HEY,
02:24:52DOUG, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY >> HEY.
02:24:55>> GOOD MORNING TOM. UM, I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO TALK TO
02:24:59YOU AND YOUR AUDIENCE. I WANTED TO SHARE TWO QUICK STORIES FROM
02:25:03MY PERSONAL LIFE, AND I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. ONE
02:25:07IS A NEIGHBOR OF MINE WHO'S UP THE STREET, AND WE TALK HERE AND
02:25:10THERE, AND HE'S A NICE GUY. HIS NAME IS SLOBODAN. I THINK. I CAN
02:25:13NEVER PRONOUNCE IT. HE'S FROM
02:25:18ORIGINALLY FROM ROMANIA, AND HE IS A CITIZEN. HE'S BEEN HERE LIKE OVER 30 YEARS. HE'S
02:25:22ACTUALLY LIKE YOU, APPARENTLY,
02:25:24UH, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. >> MHM.
02:25:27>> WE WERE TALKING THE OTHER DAY
02:25:30AT A NEIGHBORHOOD THING AND ABOUT KIDS AND CARS IN THE
02:25:33NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN THE SUBJECT TURNED TO POLITICS, AND
02:25:37HIS DEMEANOR CHANGED, AND HIS
02:25:40LOOK CHANGED. AND HE SAID TO ME,
02:25:42AMERICA AND AMERICANS, YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DEALING
02:25:46WITH HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS
02:25:49CLEARLY HARKENING BACK TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OLD DAYS IN THE
02:25:53EASTERN BLOC AND JUST HOW UGLY
02:25:56AND HOW HOW YOUR RIGHTS CAN JUST
02:26:01ERODE. YEAH, YEAH. UM, IT WAS,
02:26:05IT WAS STRIKING TO ME, UH, THE OTHER PERSONAL THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN
02:26:09MARRIED ABOUT 23 YEARS TO, WE
02:26:12HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP HERE IN PORTLAND, BUT ABOUT 40 YEARS
02:26:15AGO, MY WIFE WAS MARRIED TO, AN
02:26:20ABUSIVE MAN, AND HE WAS VIOLENT.
02:26:22HE WAS A CON MAN. HE WAS LYING.
02:26:25AND SHE HAS PTSD FROM THAT.
02:26:28ABSOLUTELY. WE TALK ABOUT IT
02:26:32PERIODICALLY. I PTSD. I THINK
02:26:33OUR WHOLE COUNTRY IS SUFFERING
02:26:37FROM A VERSION OF TRAUMA AND
02:26:39PTSD FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION AND FROM ALL THE SHENANIGANS YOU
02:26:43OUTLINED IN YOUR RANT. >> YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT TRUMP IS
02:26:46AN ABUSER. I DON'T MEAN THAT HE NECESSARILY BEAT HIS KIDS OR, OR
02:26:50HIS WIVES, BUT HE'S A PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSER. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
02:26:54>> I FEEL ABUSED, AND I FEEL
02:26:57UPLIFTED BY YOUR SHOW AND BY LATE NIGHT COMICS AND OTHER THINGS THAT PUT IT IN
02:27:01PERSPECTIVE. BUT THEN, AS YOU POINTED OUT EARLIER, IT CAN'T GET ANY CRAZIER. I MEAN, THAT
02:27:05STUFF ABOUT THE BANK, I MEAN, JUST THE WILD RENAMING THE LAKE.
02:27:08I MEAN, IT'S JUST CRAZY. AND I
02:27:12FEEL TRAUMATIZED BY IT ALL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> WELCOME TO THE CLUB, DOUG.
02:27:16WELCOME TO THE CLUB, DOUG. THANKS. >> THANKS FOR. >> THANKS FOR SHARING THE STORY.
02:27:20THAT'S THOSE PERSONAL STORIES HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT. I APPRECIATE THE CALL. THANK YOU.
02:27:24JOHN. IN RIVER FOREST, ILLINOIS. JOHN, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO WCPT.
02:27:28>> WHAT'S UP? HEY, IT'S JEN. SORRY, JEN. >> I'M SORRY. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT.
02:27:32>> YEAH. NO, NO IT'S OKAY. >> I JUST GLANCED. >> I WAS GONNA I'M JUST LOVING
02:27:35EVERYTHING SAY TODAY. AND I WAS
02:27:39KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF AN EARLIER CALLER. I NEED YOUR
02:27:42WATER COOLER HELP. I REALLY DO,
02:27:45BECAUSE I HAVE A VERY GOOD
02:27:47FRIEND WHO IS CONVINCED THAT.
02:27:50DEARBORN, MICHIGAN, IS UNDER SIEGE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, LIKE, THIS AGENDA TO TAKE OVER
02:27:54ALL THE AMERICAN CITIES AND PUT
02:27:56IN SHARIA LAW. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. WELL, I
02:27:59MEAN, HE.
02:28:00>> DOESN'T EVEN. >> JUST MAMDANI.
02:28:04>> IT'S JUST NOT EVEN TRUE. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I. >> DO, BUT HE'S, HE'S LIKE,
02:28:08NO, I'VE SEEN IT. I'VE SEEN THE MEETINGS AND THIS AND THAT.
02:28:12AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S, YOU KNOW. >> HE, THERE'S, THERE'S CRAZY
02:28:15STUFF ON YOUTUBE. SO YEAH WELL,
02:28:18THIS IS, THIS IS THE THING. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOUBLING.
02:28:22AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOUBLING AND TRIPLING DOWN ON HATING
02:28:25MUSLIMS AND FEARING MUSLIMS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A MUSLIM GUY RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES
02:28:29SENATE IN MICHIGAN, YOU KNOW. EL-SAYED DOCTOR EL-SAYED.
02:28:33>> RIGHT. AND THAT SCARES HIM. >> YEAH, YEAH. AND IT SCARES A
02:28:36LOT OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S
02:28:40WILLIE HORTON ALL OVER AGAIN. YOU KNOW WILLIE HORTON WHO NEVER
02:28:42CALLED HIMSELF WILLIE. BUT HEY, WILLIE SOUNDS BLACKER THAN
02:28:45WILLIAM. RIGHT. AND OR BILL.
02:28:48AND, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T
02:28:52HAVE ANY MAGIC WORDS FOR YOU, JEN. I, YOU KNOW, YOU.
02:28:56>> MIGHT. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK AN AI PROGRAM. YOU KNOW. >> OKAY.
02:29:00>> WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TRUE BACKSTORY HERE? BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S.
02:29:04>> UH. >> IT'S A TOUGH ONE. JEN. THANK YOU FOR THE CALL AND GOOD LUCK.
02:29:06>> THANK YOU. TOM. >> IT'S TOUGH DEPROGRAMMING
02:29:09THESE PEOPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CULT DEPROGRAMMING.
02:29:13>> I KNOW. >> THANK YOU JEN. THANKS. 27
02:29:14MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE. >> BACK.
02:29:18>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM HARTMANN >> [MUSIC]
02:29:20>> PROGRAM. CALL 20208089925.
02:29:25>> DEFENDING AMERICA FROM THE WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION. I'LL
02:29:28BE RIGHT BACK WITH YOUR CALLS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BREAK.
02:29:30>> STAY WITH US.
02:29:35>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
02:29:46>> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT, GEEKY
02:29:49SCIENCE FRIDAY VERSION. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
02:29:53COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID
02:29:55CLIMATE CHANGE BUILD THIS HEAT DOME? OVER 80 MILLION AMERICANS,
02:29:59MORE THAN 80 MILLION AMERICANS ARE UNDER AN EXTREME HEAT
02:30:03WARNING OR A HEAT ADVISORY THIS WEEK. FORECASTERS CALL THIS HEAT
02:30:06DOME STEAMY EVEN BY LATE AUGUST
02:30:08STANDARDS. RECORD HEAT KEEPS PUNISHING THE SOUTH CENTRAL
02:30:12STATES AND SPREADS INTO THE SOUTHWEST BY MIDWEEK, WITH HIGHS
02:30:15WELL ABOVE 100 DEGREES IN PARTS
02:30:16OF ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO,
02:30:20TOPPING 110. THE HEAT INDEX HIT
02:30:22105 TO 115 ACROSS SOUTHERN
02:30:25ARIZONA. TEXAS, LOUISIANA AND NORTHERN FLORIDA. THE KNIGHTS
02:30:29WON'T COOL DOWN, EITHER, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BODY IS SUPPOSED TO RECOVER. MICHAEL
02:30:32WEHNER OF LAWRENCE BERKELEY NATIONAL LABORATORY, SAYS
02:30:36CLIMATE CHANGE HAS RAISED
02:30:37ORDINARY HEAT WAVES BY 3 TO 5°F.
02:30:41AMERICAN HEAT WAVES HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE 1980s. HEAT ALREADY
02:30:45KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN HURRICANES, WILDFIRES AND FLOODS
02:30:49COMBINED. AND THOSE DEATHS GET
02:30:51UNDERCOUNTED. AND TRUMP KEEPS CUTTING. THE VERY FORECASTERS
02:30:54WHO WARN US AND CLAIMING THAT
02:30:55IT'S ALL JUST A HOAX. BIG OIL
02:30:59DRAINED A LAKE MEAD'S WORTH OF WATER FROM THE WEST. NOW WE KNOW
02:31:02WHO DID IT. A NEW STUDY IN
02:31:06NATURE COMMUNICATIONS, EARTH AND
02:31:08ENVIRONMENT, FINDS THAT 122
02:31:10FOSSIL FUEL AND CEMENT COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT HALF THE WATER. CLIMATE CHANGE HAS
02:31:14STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN WEST.
02:31:19FROM 2014 TO 2024, WARMING CUT THE REGION'S SNOWPACK BY MORE
02:31:22THAN A THIRD AND DROPPED
02:31:24STREAMFLOWS BY 13%. THE CARBON MAJORS SHARE OF THAT LOSS ADDS
02:31:28UP TO TRILLIONS OF GALLONS,
02:31:32ROUGHLY THE ENTIRE CAPACITY OF LAKE MEAD. IN THE LOWER COLORADO
02:31:34RIVER BASIN, STREAMFLOW FELL
02:31:3721%. 40 MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON THAT RIVER. COAUTHOR CARLY
02:31:40PHILLIPS OF THE UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS, SAYS THE
02:31:44COMPANIES, QUOTE, ENGAGED IN A CAMPAIGN OF DELAY AND DENIAL AND
02:31:47DECEPTION. CITIES AND STATES ARE ALREADY SUING. THE STUDY HANDS
02:31:51THEM THE PROOF IS THE SWEETENER
02:31:54IN YOUR GUM. RAISING YOUR HEART ATTACK. RISK. XYLITOL SHOWS UP
02:31:58IN SUGAR FREE GUM, CANDY, BAKED GOODS, AND TOOTHPASTE, AND IT'S
02:32:02SOLD AS A SAFE CHOICE. NOW,
02:32:03RESEARCH. NEW RESEARCH PRESENTED
02:32:06AT THE EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF CARDIOLOGY CONGRESS SAYS
02:32:10OTHERWISE. RESEARCHERS AT SHAKUR UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN BERLIN
02:32:14TRACKED ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
02:32:16ACROSS CANADIAN AND EUROPEAN
02:32:18STUDIES. AMONG CANADIAN
02:32:23PARTICIPANTS, THOSE CONSUMING THE MOST, XYLITOL HAD A 57% HIGHER RISK OF A MAJOR
02:32:25CARDIOVASCULAR EVENT OVER SIX
02:32:27YEARS. IN THE EUROPEAN GROUP,
02:32:30THE RISK RAN 18% HIGHER OVER 30
02:32:32YEARS. LEAD AUTHOR MARCO WITTKOWSKI SAYS FURTHER STUDIES
02:32:35ARE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY AS
02:32:40PRODUCT LEVELS KEEP CLIMBING. THIS IS OBSERVATIONAL WORK, SO IT CAN'T PROVE CAUSE. BUT
02:32:43REGULATORS CALL THESE SWEETENERS SAFE. DECADES AGO, AND NEVER
02:32:45WENT BACK TO CHECK. WHILE MANUFACTURERS KEPT INCREASING
02:32:49THE DOSES CAN A DIET SODA REALLY
02:32:56TRIPLE YOUR STOMACH CANCER RISK? MASS GENERAL BRIGHAM RESEARCHERS
02:32:57FOLLOWED 112,284 PEOPLE IN THE
02:33:01NURSES HEALTH STUDY AND THE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOLLOW UP STUDY. FOR DECADES. PEOPLE WHO
02:33:04DRANK AT LEAST ONE SUGAR
02:33:07SWEETENED BEVERAGE A DAY HAD 2.45 TIMES THE RISK OF STOMACH
02:33:11CANCER, COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO
02:33:12DRANK LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. AMONG WOMEN DRINKING MORE THAN
02:33:16ONE A DAY, THE RISK RAN MORE THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER. SODAS,
02:33:19FRUIT PUNCH, LEMONADE AND SPORT
02:33:22DRINKS ALL COUNTED. DIET SODAS SHOWED NO LINK AT ALL. SENIOR
02:33:26AUTHOR ANDREW CHAN SAYS THE RISK
02:33:27APPEARS MEANINGFUL HIGHER FOR
02:33:31REGULAR DRINKERS. STOMACH CANCER IS STILL RARE, AND THIS IS AN
02:33:33ASSOCIATION, NOT PROOF. BUT ROUGHLY 65% OF AMERICAN ADULTS
02:33:37DRINK ONE OF THESE EVERY DAY, AND THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY SPENDS
02:33:41MILLIONS. MAKING SURE THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. THE FDA
02:33:44APPROVES A PANCREATIC CANCER
02:33:50BREAKTHROUGH, PRICED AT $39,000 A MONTH. FOR 40 YEARS, SCIENTISTS CALLED THE KRAS GENE
02:33:54UNDRUGGABLE. IT DRIVES MORE THAN
02:33:5790% OF PANCREATIC TUMORS, AND THE PROTEIN IS SO SMOOTH, THE DRUGS SLIDE RIGHT OFF IT. ON
02:34:01WEDNESDAY, THE FDA APPROVED
02:34:04DARAXONRASIB SOLD AS ROB
02:34:06HIAASEN, A ONCE DAILY PILL FROM
02:34:10REVOLUTION MEDICINES. THE FDA CLEARED IT SIX AND A HALF MONTHS EARLY UNDER A NEW EXPEDITED REVIEW, FIVE WEEKS AFTER THE
02:34:14COMPANY FILED IN A PHASE THREE
02:34:17TRIAL OF 500 PATIENTS WITH METASTATIC PANCREATIC CANCER.
02:34:20MEDIAN SURVIVAL WENT FROM 6.7
02:34:21MONTHS ON CHEMOTHERAPY TO 13.2
02:34:24MONTHS ON THE PILL. IT CUT THE
02:34:27RISK OF DEATH BY 60%. MD
02:34:29ANDERSON, SUBCOMPACT, COMPARED
02:34:33KRAS S TO A SHINY BALL. BUT HERE'S THE CATCH. REVOLUTION
02:34:36MEDICINE PRICED IT AT $39,800
02:34:40FOR A 30 DAY SUPPLY. THAT'S A
02:34:43REAL MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH. LOCKED BEHIND A PRICE. NOBODY
02:34:45WITHOUT GOOD INSURANCE CAN TOUCH
02:34:48WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE OCEANS, THE FORESTS, AND THE WHEAT ALL BREAK AT ONCE? BILL MCKIBBEN
02:34:52LAID IT OUT THIS WEEK. THE GLOBAL SEA SURFACE JUST HIT THE
02:34:55HIGHEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED, AND ONE CANADIAN
02:34:59SCIENTIST FIGURES. AUGUST 21st
02:35:02WAS LIKELY THE WARMEST OCEAN
02:35:06SINCE THE LAST INTERGLACIAL 125,000 YEARS AGO. 42% OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN IS IN A MARINE
02:35:10HEAT WAVE RIGHT NOW. CORAL IS
02:35:11BLEACHING AGAIN, AND REEFS FEED
02:35:15500 MILLION PEOPLE OUT WEST. HOT FIRES ARE TURNING CONIFER
02:35:18FORESTS INTO SHRUBLAND FOR GOOD.
02:35:20STUDIES SAY 40% OF WESTERN
02:35:22CONIFERS COULD BE GONE BY 2100.
02:35:25SOME WESTERN STATES GET 75% OF THEIR WATER FROM SNOWMELT, AND
02:35:28THE WHEAT IS FAILING. AMERICA IS HEADING FOR ITS WORST WHEAT
02:35:31HARVEST IN 50 YEARS. ONE NEW
02:35:34STUDY SAYS THREE DEGREES OF WARMING COULD TRIPLE GLOBAL
02:35:37WHEAT PRICES. MCKIBBEN'S POINT IS SIMPLE POLITICS IS A SUBSET
02:35:41OF PHYSICS. YOU CAN LIE ABOUT A LOT. A LOT OF THINGS. BUT WHEAT
02:35:45IS REAL, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
02:35:48>> TODAY. FARIAS 28, 2016.
02:35:54>> [MUSIC]
02:35:59>> YOU WERE PROMISED SOMETHING. WORK HARD, PLAY BY THE RULES,
02:36:01AND YOU'D OWN A HOME, RAISE A FAMILY, AND RETIRE WITH DIGNITY. THAT WAS THE DEAL. IT WAS CALLED
02:36:05THE AMERICAN. >> DREAM.
02:36:08>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M.
02:36:13EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
02:36:17MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
02:36:20COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
02:36:24COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO
02:36:26SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
02:36:29COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF COMPELLING PROGRAMING TODAY ON
02:36:32C-SPAN. TWO.
02:36:41>> AMERICAN HISTORY TV SATURDAYS ON C-SPAN. TWO. EXPLORING THE
02:36:43PEOPLE AND EVENTS THAT TELL THE AMERICAN STORY. AT 1:30 P.M.
02:36:47EASTERN, WE'LL TAKE YOU ON A TOUR OF THE IOWA STATE FAIR FOR
02:36:49A LOOK AT THE ANNUAL CELEBRATIONS. FAMOUS LANDMARKS,
02:36:53STORIES FROM THE FAIR'S PAST, AND AN UP CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH
02:36:56THE ICONIC BUTTER COW. LATER, A
02:36:59HISTORICAL TOUR OF THE MARINE BARRACKS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
02:37:03HOME OF THE PRESIDENT'S OWN U.S. MARINE BAND. YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE BAND'S DRUM MAJOR AND THEN
02:37:06SEE THE WEEKLY DRILL PARADE AND CONCERT OF THE MARINE CORPS AT 5
02:37:09P.M. EASTERN, AND THEN AT 7:30 P.M. EASTERN. AS PART OF OUR IN
02:37:14PURSUIT SERIES ON PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP, JOURNALISTS AND HISTORIANS REFLECT ON THE
02:37:18LEGACIES OF PRESIDENT WARREN
02:37:22HARDING, FIRST LADY FLORENCE HARDING, PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON, AND FIRST LADY EDITH
02:37:25WILSON, EXPLORING THE AMERICAN STORY. WATCH AMERICAN HISTORY TV
02:37:29SATURDAYS ON C-SPAN TWO AND FIND THE FULL SCHEDULE ON YOUR
02:37:32PROGRAM GUIDE, OR WATCH ONLINE
02:37:34ANYTIME AT C-SPAN.ORG SLASH
02:37:39HISTORY.
02:37:39>> HEY
02:37:45>> THE CONSERVATIVES. THEM AS THE REPUGNANT ONES.
02:37:48>> REPUGNANT ONES. OKAY, THAT'S.
02:37:53>> A. >> GOOD KIND OF RHYMES WITH REPUBLICAN. >> YEAH, IT DOES. THERE'S PEOPLE
02:37:56CALL HIM A THUG I'M GENERALLY. I
02:37:58MEAN, I'M OFFENDED WHEN, WHENEVER THEY TALK ABOUT THE
02:38:02DEMOCRAT PARTY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. THERE'S THERE'S. THE
02:38:05DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS NAMED BY THOMAS JEFFERSON, FOR GOODNESS
02:38:08SAKES. AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW,
02:38:11BUT, BUT IT GOES BACK TO 1956
02:38:14WHEN, WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH,
02:38:16OH, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? THE CRAZY
02:38:18SENATOR. UM, SAID, DON'T EVER
02:38:21SAY DEMOCRATIC PARTY. ALWAYS SAY DEMOCRAT PARTY WITH AN EMPHASIS
02:38:24ON THE RAT AND THE REPUBLICANS AND FOX NEWS HAVE TURNED THIS INTO A RELIGION, WHICH IS
02:38:28BIZARRE, BUT THAT'S A GOOD ONE. BILL, THANKS A LOT FOR THE CALL. GRANT IN LOS ANGELES. HEY,
02:38:32GRANT, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
02:38:35TODAY? >> THE 2007 HOUSING CRASH.
02:38:39THERE'S A YOUTUBE VIDEO OF
02:38:42TRUMP IN 2006 SAYING THAT WE WERE IN A HOUSING BUBBLE, AND HE
02:38:46WANTED A HOUSING CRASH. SO HE AND HIS BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS CAN
02:38:49BUY UP THE REAL ESTATE. AND SINCE THEN, INTEREST RATES WERE
02:38:53AT ZERO FOR A DECADE OR SO. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE
02:38:56WEALTHY AND CORPORATIONS HAVE
02:38:58BEEN BUYING UP HOMES LIKE CRAZY.
02:39:01AND JUST TODAY ON CNBC, JIM
02:39:03CRAMER, KIND OF OUT OF THE BLUE,
02:39:05SAID, WE'RE KIND OF SET UP FOR
02:39:08A 1987 STYLE CRASH. AND HE'S EX
02:39:11GOLDMAN SACHS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THE FED CHAIRS
02:39:15ARE ALL EX GOLDMAN SACHS, LIKE
02:39:18STEVE MNUCHIN, WHO ALSO BOUGHT A
02:39:19BANK LIKE TRUMP'S. I THINK I
02:39:22THINK SOMETHING'S GOING ON. SO I THINK SO TOO. THE HEDGE FUNDS
02:39:25ARE DUMPING REAL ESTATE OR WHAT.
02:39:27>> BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF STRESS STRESSORS GOING ON.
02:39:31WE'RE IN A RECESSION. YOU'VE
02:39:34GOT A CRAZY GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. OCTOBER SEEMS TO BE THE
02:39:36MONTH WHEN CRASHES HAPPEN. UM,
02:39:40SO, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF HOLDING MY BREATH. I, UH.
02:39:43>> FOR HIM TO SAY THAT, THOUGH, THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T JOKE AROUND
02:39:47LIKE THAT. IT'S KIND OF. NO, HE'S KIND OF SHOCKED WHEN HE
02:39:51SAID IT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. >> YEAH. AND, AND THE THING THAT
02:39:54THE ONE POINT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE ABOUT THIS, THAT YOU JUST MADE, GRANT, IT
02:39:58PROBABLY JUST SLID RIGHT BY.
02:39:59MOST OF THE PEOPLE LISTENING IS
02:40:03MOST AVERAGE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF, YOU KNOW,
02:40:05NORMAL MEANS PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND
02:40:07ME, UH, ASSUME THAT A RECESSION
02:40:10OR EVEN A GREAT DEPRESSION STYLE
02:40:14EVENT IS SOMETHING THAT RICH PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT BECAUSE
02:40:16THEY COULD LOSE SO MUCH. AND IN
02:40:20FACT, IT IS A BUYING OPPORTUNITY
02:40:22FOR THEM. UM, I USED TO BE GOOD
02:40:26FRIENDS WITH GLORIA SWANSON, THE, THE MOVIE ACTRESS. SHE'S, SHE'S BEEN DEAD FOR A WHILE,
02:40:30BUT BACK WHEN LOUISE AND I WERE RUNNING A COMMUNITY FOR ABUSED KIDS, SHE WAS ON OUR BOARD, AND
02:40:33SHE HELPED US RAISE MONEY. SHE WAS A VEGETARIAN, AND WE WERE VEGETARIANS, AND THAT WAS THE
02:40:37THING WE HAD IN COMMON. AND I USED TO VISIT HER IN NEW YORK
02:40:41CITY ALL THE TIME, AND SHE WOULD TELL ME THESE WILD STORIES ABOUT JOE KENNEDY AND HOW HE RIPPED
02:40:44HER OFF. AND HE WAS HER LOVER FOR A WHILE AND MANAGED HER
02:40:47MONEY AND STOLE A BUNCH OF IT.
02:40:50AND, AND THE POINT THAT SHE MADE WAS THAT THE BIGGEST, SOME OF
02:40:54THE BIGGEST FORTUNES IN AMERICA WERE MADE DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION, BECAUSE IT WAS A
02:40:58BUYING OPPORTUNITY. SHE SAID KENNEDY PULLED EVERYTHING OUT OF THE MARKET ABOUT TWO WEEKS
02:41:01BEFORE THE CRASH, BECAUSE HE SAW IT COMING, AND HIS COMMENT WAS
02:41:05THAT WHEN A SHOESHINE BOY STARTED GIVING HIM STOCK ADVICE,
02:41:08HE KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT. AND THEN, WITH ALL THAT MONEY,
02:41:11HE JUST BOUGHT IT. ONCE THE MARKET HIT BOTTOM, HE WAS BUYING
02:41:15LIKE THERE WAS NO TOMORROW. AND THAT'S THEN. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF THE KENNEDY
02:41:19FORTUNE RIGHT NOW. AND ALL THE RICH PEOPLE WERE DOING THIS
02:41:21BECAUSE THEY HAD CASH. THE PHRASE BACK THEN WAS, CASH IS
02:41:25KING. AND WE SAW THE SAME THING IN 87, WHEN THE CRASH HAPPENED DURING REAGAN. THAT WAS THE
02:41:29SECOND LARGEST CRASH SINCE THE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. AND,
02:41:32AND, YOU KNOW, RICH PEOPLE,
02:41:36GENUINELY RICH PEOPLE JUST LOVE ECONOMIC DISASTERS BECAUSE. >> RIGHT. >> BECAUSE THEY CAN JUST BUY,
02:41:40YOU KNOW, THE BIG COMPANIES CAN BUY UP ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES
02:41:43THAT ARE DISTRESSED. IT WIPES OUT ENTREPRENEURS. IT JUST, IT
02:41:46JUST. AND THE REAL ESTATE BARONS CAN BUY UP SINGLE FAMILY HOMES
02:41:50AND TURN THEM INTO RENTALS. AND IT'S JUST A MARVELOUS OPPORTUNITY. AND SO THEY
02:41:54ACTUALLY, IN SOME CASES, EVEN ENGINEER THESE THINGS. AND IT
02:41:57WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL IF THIS, THIS OCTOBER, OR ACTUALLY,
02:42:00I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY, IF, IF TRUMP HAS ANY CONTROL OVER IT
02:42:04AT ALL, HE'LL TRY TO DO IT AFTER THE ELECTION. BUT, BUT I
02:42:07THINK WE GOT TO WE GOT. >> INTEREST RATES NEARING SEVEN.
02:42:11THE LAST REAL ESTATE REPORTS HAVE BEEN LOUSY. AND JUST LIKE
02:42:14WITH, UH, JOHN MCCAIN, THEY COULDN'T HOLD IT OFF UNTIL THE
02:42:17ELECTION. I THINK I THINK IT MAY
02:42:19START BEFORE THEN, BUT THE LAST
02:42:22FEW REAL ESTATE REPORTS HAVE BEEN. IT'S LIKE SHUTTING DOWN
02:42:25WITH INTEREST RATES NEARING MORTGAGES, NEARING 7%. SO, YEAH,
02:42:28IT'S A RACE. WE'LL SEE WHO WHAT HAPPENS FIRST. >> AND THEN.
02:42:32>> YESTERDAY. >> YESTERDAY IN JACKSON HOLE. KEVIN WARSH SAYING THAT, YOU
02:42:36KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO RAISE INTEREST RATES BECAUSE INFLATION DOES NOT SEEM
02:42:39TO BE ABATING, WHICH IS NOT A MYSTERY. >> I THINK THAT SIGNAL THAT, YOU
02:42:43KNOW, TO ALL THE BIG GUYS, OKAY, LET'S UNLOAD ON EVERYBODY ELSE
02:42:47SO WE CAN BUY IT LOWER. BUT WE'LL SEE. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. GRANT, THANKS FOR THE CALL. GOOD TO
02:42:50HEAR FROM YOU. APPRECIATE IT. HENRY IN CICERO, ILLINOIS. HEY,
02:42:53HENRY, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HEY, TOM. THANK YOU FOR
02:42:56EVERYTHING YOU DO, MAN. YOU'RE THE BEST. >> THANK YOU.
02:43:00>> I'M, UH, WONDERING ABOUT THE
02:43:02MAIL IN VOTES. I KNOW THE POST
02:43:04OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO SHARE THE
02:43:07INFORMATION, BUT COULDN'T I
02:43:11KNOW IT'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR CONSTITUTIONS AND EVERYTHING, BUT CHANGE IT WHERE
02:43:14YOU COULD USE FEDEX OR UPS. OR
02:43:17USPS. I MEAN. >> THEY WOULDN'T BE. THEY
02:43:21WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. HENRY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FEDEX IS GOING TO CHARGE YOU TEN BUCKS
02:43:24TO DELIVER SOMETHING TO YOUR HOUSE. THE POST OFFICE WILL DO
02:43:26IT FOR $0.50. UH, YOU KNOW, IT
02:43:29WOULD JUST BE IMPRACTICAL
02:43:33ECONOMICALLY. AND, AND FEDEX AND UPS ARE NOT SET UP TO HANDLE
02:43:36THAT KIND OF A VOLUME. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
02:43:39MILLIONS OF PIECES OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PACKAGES, ESSENTIALLY,
02:43:42THESE WOULD BE PIECES OF MAIL, BUT FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW
02:43:46WOULD BE PACKAGES THAT ARE SUDDENLY FLOWING INTO THE SYSTEM. IT'S JUST NOT DESIGNED
02:43:49FOR THAT. THE POST OFFICE IS. >> THAT'S AMAZING WHAT HE'S
02:43:53DONE TO THE POST OFFICE, THOUGH. IT'S A SHAME. >> OH, YEAH. AND LOUIS DEJOY,
02:43:56YOU KNOW, TEARING UP 120 OF THESE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HIGH
02:44:00SPEED SORTING MACHINES JUST
02:44:04BEFORE THE BEFORE THE 2022 2024 ELECTION? I THINK IT WAS. NO. THE 2020 ELECTION.
02:44:07>> NO. ANYBODY ELSE CAME UP WITH IT. BUT I SAID NO. JOY WITH
02:44:11DEJOY. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. HENRY. THANKS FOR THE CALL. >> ANOTHER QUICK THING.
02:44:15>> YEAH. >> GO AHEAD. MY, MY GREAT GREAT
02:44:19GRANDFATHER CAME TO CHICAGO IN
02:44:221872 FROM PRUSSIA. AND THEY WERE
02:44:28INSTRUMENTAL. HE WAS A TAILOR,
02:44:29BUT THEY TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE SUITS ON MACHINES
02:44:33HERE. SO THEY TOLD HIM THAT YOU COULD DO BETTER AS BEING A
02:44:36LABORER. WELL, THEY ORGANIZE THE
02:44:40LABORERS AND HE'S BURIED WITH
02:44:43THE COMMUNISTS OUT HERE IN FOREST HOME CEMETERY. >> WOW.
02:44:47>> UM, YEAH, I'M PROUD TO BE A SOCIALIST
02:44:51>> CHICAGO'S BEEN A HOTBED OF UNION ACTIVITY SINCE. SINCE THE
02:44:54MID 19th CENTURY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST HUGE.
02:44:55>> I MEAN, IBEW LOCAL 134
02:44:59ELECTRICIAN FOR 45 YEARS. >> OH, GOOD ON YOU. MY, MY, MY
02:45:02ONE BROTHER WHO'S PASSED AWAY. STANLEY, UH, WAS IBEW HIS WHOLE
02:45:05LIFE. AND, UH. >> I'M 65. I COULD NEVER
02:45:09RETIRED WITHOUT THEIR HELP. >> YEP. THERE YOU GO. GO UNIONS.
02:45:12I'M A UNION MEMBER. BOTH OF MY OTHER BROTHERS ARE UNION MEMBERS. UH, WELL, THEY'RE BOTH
02:45:16RETIRED NOW, BUT THEY WERE, AND, UH, YEAH, ON WE GO. HENRY, I
02:45:20GOTTA MOVE ALONG. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.
02:45:22>> REAL QUICK. ONE THING YOU
02:45:24KNOW, I, I MISSED IT. THANKS, TOM. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. BYE.
02:45:28>> OKAY. THANK YOU. JIMMY IN ARKADELPHIA, ARKANSAS. HEY,
02:45:32JIMMY, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
02:45:34TODAY
02:45:37>> THANK YOU. WHAT I WANTED TO
02:45:38MENTION WAS THE CUTS THAT THE
02:45:43REPUBLICANS AND THE TRUMP NOT
02:45:46ONLY THE AMOUNT OF
02:45:56CANDY. YEAH. BUT IT SEEMS FUNNY
02:45:59THAT, UM THEM TO GET FOOD
02:46:01THAT'S TOO HEALTHY. THEY DON'T
02:46:03WANT TO GIVE THEM EXTRA MONEY TO
02:46:06BUY
02:46:16OKAY. TO THEM. YEAH, BUT NO AND
02:46:19VEGETABLES IS NOT. YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED.
02:46:21>> YEAH. AND THESE GUYS CLAIM TO BE SUPER CHRISTIANS, AND THEY'VE
02:46:25NEVER READ MATTHEW 25 OR THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT. UM, IT IS,
02:46:29UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE JESUS SAID, YOU KNOW, FEED THE HUNGRY
02:46:32PEOPLE, RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE JOB. UM, JIMMY. THANK
02:46:34YOU. WELL SAID, WELL SAID. I APPRECIATE THE.
02:46:38>> CALL. >> UH, IT >> [MUSIC] >> IS 44.5 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF
02:46:41YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MINUTE. >> STAY WITH US.
02:46:46>> [MUSIC]
02:46:57>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO TOM HARTMAN. VISIT TOM HOMAN .COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVES.
02:47:01>> HEY. >> IT'S THE PLACE WHERE WE DARE TO ASK, IS WALMART A PERSON? AND
02:47:04WE DARE TO SAY NO. THE REPUBLICANS ON THE SUPREME COURT
02:47:07LIED TO YOU ABOUT THAT ONE, TOO
02:47:13>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
02:47:21>> AND WELCOME BACK, ED IN
02:47:24BELFAIR, WASHINGTON. HEY, WHAT'S UP?
02:47:26>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. SURE. UM, THIS IS JUST JUST TO
02:47:29LIGHTEN UP THE MOOD A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE
02:47:33BEEN PRETTY ROUGH HERE LATELY, BUT, UH, WITH THAT EXECUTIVE
02:47:37ORDER CHANGE IN LAKE ONTARIO TO
02:47:39LAKE AMERICA, I THINK THE HANDMADE STEPHEN MILLER HANDED,
02:47:43UH, THE BIG FELLA ANOTHER EXECUTIVE ORDER CHANGING THE
02:47:47U.S. OF A TO THE USSR, BECAUSE
02:47:49HE MISSES IT SO MUCH UH, BUT IF
02:47:53I MAY ADD, TOM, CAN WE PLEASE,
02:47:57UM, OVERTURN THE MONEY
02:47:59LAUNDERING BUSINESS OF CITIZENS UNITED, PLEASE? >> OH, YEAH. YEAH, THIS IS, THIS
02:48:03IS. IT'S THE CANCER ON OUR ON
02:48:05OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. IT IS
02:48:08LEGALIZING. >> EVERY WEEKEND.
02:48:11>> PARDON? >> YES. LEGALIZING BRAVERY.
02:48:14IT'S IT'S MONEY LAUNDERING. YEAH. >> IT TRULY IS. >> HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
02:48:18>> OKAY. OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY. >> MUCH FOR YOUR VOICE. >> SURE ENOUGH. AND THANKS FOR
02:48:21YOUR KIND WORDS. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. UH, STEVE, IN NEW
02:48:23BOSTON, MICHIGAN. HEY, STEVE.
02:48:27WHAT'S UP
02:48:30>> TOM. UH, TODAY'S CALL IS IN REGARDS THAT, UH, WATCHING, UH,
02:48:32THESE ADS, UH, CAMPAIGN ADS ON
02:48:35TV HERE IN MICHIGAN. WE GOT A GUY. WE GOT A GUY NAMED MIKE
02:48:39ROGERS WHO'S RUNNING FOR SENATE AGAINST ABDUL EL-SAYED WRIGHT.
02:48:41BY THE WAY, HE WON'T DEBATE ABDUL, YOU KNOW, WE, OF COURSE NOT SEE HIM GET ON DEBATE, BUT
02:48:45I'M WATCHING ONE OF HIS ADS. TOM AND MIKE IS SAYING, ELECT
02:48:49ME, AND I'M GONNA LOWER THE PRICE OF GROCERIES. I'M GOING TO
02:48:51LOWER THE PRICE OF GAS. I'M
02:48:55GOING TO INCREASE EVERYONE'S WAGES. I'M GOING TO DO AWAY
02:48:56WITH PROPERTY TAX. WELL, LET'S
02:48:59REMIND OURSELVES THAT SINCE 2024, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS
02:49:02BEEN IN COMPLETE CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT, AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BUT THE OPPOSITE
02:49:05OF WHAT THIS GUY CAMPAIGNS THAT HE'S SAYING HE'S GOING TO DO.
02:49:09HE'S FULL OF Bs HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. >> IT'S A CHICKEN IN EVERY.
02:49:13>> POT FOR THE PEOPLE HERE IN MICHIGAN. YEAH, YEAH. SO I'M CALLING THIS OUT FOR ALL THE
02:49:17VOTERS HERE IN MICHIGAN. PAY ATTENTION. THIS GUY'S NOT GOING
02:49:20TO GIVE YOU ANY OF THESE THINGS. BOELTER ABDUL. HE'S GOING TO
02:49:24HELP US. HE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S ON OUR SIDE. BUT PAY ATTENTION
02:49:28TO THESE ADS, BECAUSE THESE REPUBLICANS ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS. CON ARTISTS, YOU
02:49:31KNOW, SHOWMAN. THAT'S ALL THEY ARE. >> AND THAT'S ALL THEY'VE BEEN
02:49:34SINCE THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. YOU KNOW, WHEN REAGAN PROMISED
02:49:38US, OH, LET'S JUST GIVE ALL THIS MONEY TO THE RICH PEOPLE, AND IT'LL TRICKLE DOWN ON YOU.
02:49:40AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PEEING ON YOU
02:49:43AND TELLING YOU IT'S RAINING. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S. YEAH.
02:49:46STEVEN. STEVE. WELL SAID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:49:49>> THEY SAY, THEY SAY, UH,
02:49:51THEY'RE AGAINST WOKE, ALWAYS
02:49:57AGAINST WOKE. WELL, I'M FOR WAKE. WAKE UP, EVERYBODY WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. COME ON. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. YEAH, WE'RE
02:50:00SMARTER AND WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS. >> STEVE, ARE THE, UH. >> OKAY.
02:50:04>> JUST KNOW, BEFORE YOU GO, I'VE GOT. I GOT A QUESTION. YOU
02:50:07KNOW, I GREW UP IN MICHIGAN. IT'S. I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT
02:50:11THIS. UM, WHAT WHAT IS THE
02:50:12FREQUENCY OF THE ADS THAT YOU'RE
02:50:16SEEING ON TV FOR ABDUL EL-SAYED FOR DR. EL-SAYED VERSUS MIKE
02:50:19ROGERS. ARE YOU BEING OVERWHELMED BY ROGERS ADS OR ARE THEY BOTH. ARE THEY COMPETITIVE
02:50:23IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE
02:50:25NUMBER >> BUT. >> YEAH, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IS ONE WILL COME ON AND THE
02:50:29OTHER WILL COME ON RIGHT BEHIND IT. AND EITHER WILL BE A POSITIVE AD FOR THEMSELVES OR A
02:50:33NEGATIVE AD AGAINST THE OTHER ONE. YEAH. HEY, I GOT A QUESTION
02:50:36FOR YOU, THOUGH. YOU SAY YOUR
02:50:39FAMILY IS IBEW. >> MY BROTHER WAS MY BROTHER, STANLEY.
02:50:43>> WAS OUT HERE IN MICHIGAN.
02:50:45>> YEAH, YEAH. LANSING.
02:50:47>> MY MY GREAT UNCLE HELPED TO ORGANIZE IBEW LOCAL 58.
02:50:51>> OH, REALLY? I WONDER IF THAT
02:50:53WAS STAN'S LOCAL. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER.
02:50:57>> YEAH, MY DAD WAS IBEW. HIS BROTHER WAS TWO OF THEIR UNCLES
02:51:01WERE. >> I ADDRESSED THEIR NATIONAL CONVENTION ABOUT.
02:51:05>> TEN YEARS. UNION FAMILY.
02:51:07>> YEAH. I ADDRESSED THE IBEW NATIONAL CONVENTION ABOUT TEN
02:51:10YEARS AGO. I GAVE THE KEYNOTE SPEECH. SO IT'S A GREAT UNION. IT'S JUST AN ABSOLUTELY GREAT
02:51:13UNION. STEVE, THANKS A LOT. NICE
02:51:15TO HEAR FROM YOU. IT'S, UH, WHAT TIME IS IT? 1249 MINUTES PAST
02:51:19THE HOUR. WE'LL BE BACK IN 60s.
02:51:23>> [MUSIC]
02:51:31>> JOIN C-SPAN 2 AT 6 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMING,
02:51:34HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING, AND
02:51:38MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY C-SPAN IN 2026. TODAY, SUPREME
02:51:41COURT JUSTICES DISCUSSING THEIR LIVES, THE CONSTITUTION, THE
02:51:45COURT, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE ON THE NATION'S HIGHEST
02:51:48COURT. WATCH A MARATHON OF
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02:52:01SUNDAY ON C-SPAN. TWO FEATURES LEADING AUTHORS DISCUSSING THEIR
02:52:05LATEST NONFICTION BOOKS. HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING UP THIS
02:52:09WEEKEND AT 1:45 P.M. EASTERN. JOANNA STERN WITH HER BOOK I AM
02:52:12NOT A ROBOT, DESCRIBES THE YEAR
02:52:15SHE SPENT USING AI AND ROBOTS IN
02:52:17ALL ASPECTS OF HER LIFE. THEN
02:52:21AUTHOR AND ACTIVIST CORY DOCTOROW AND HIS BOOK, THE REVERSE CENTAUR'S GUIDE TO LIFE
02:52:25AFTER AI, HE OFFERS GUIDANCE ON HANDLING THE INTRODUCTION OF AI
02:52:28INTO OUR LIVES AND WORK. AT 5:45
02:52:30P.M. EASTERN, ALSO AT 10:30
02:52:33P.M., JOURNALIST ANNIE JACOBSEN, AUTHOR OF THE BEST SELLING BOOK
02:52:36BIOLOGICAL WAR A SCENARIO,
02:52:40EXPLORES HOW THE RELEASE OF A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON COULD PLAY OUT
02:52:42ON A GLOBAL SCALE. INSIGHTFUL
02:52:46STORIES, INFLUENTIAL VOICES.
02:52:50WATCH BOOK TV EVERY SUNDAY ON C-SPAN 2. AND FIND A FULL SCHEDULE ON YOUR PROGRAM GUIDE,
02:52:53OR WATCH ONLINE ANYTIME AT
02:52:57BOOKTV.ORG.
02:52:58>> WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
02:53:04>> MIND IS TRUMP'S NARCISSISM, UM, NARCISSISM. UM, EVERYTHING
02:53:07HE'S DONE IS REFLECTIVE OF A NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY.
02:53:11>> AGREED. >> INCLUDING WITH HIS STOP. WITH
02:53:13HIS STAFF, WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
02:53:16CANADA RIGHT NOW. PARTICULAR.
02:53:19AND I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT
02:53:20DISMAYED BY THE LACK OF DEMOCRAT
02:53:25PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFESSORS. UM, PROFESSIONALS AND A LOT OF OTHER
02:53:27PEOPLE THAT CAN MIRROR IN ON THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS ELECTION
02:53:30COMES UP AND HE LOSES THE AMOUNT
02:53:33OF DAMAGE AND THE AMOUNT OF HARM
02:53:36HE WILL CAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND THE COUNTRY OR THE WORLD,
02:53:40BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WIN. >> YEAH. >> HE CAN'T BE SEEN AS LOSING. >> I'M VERY WORRIED. >> ABOUT.
02:53:44>> THAT, JEFF. ALTHOUGH HE'LL
02:53:46BLAME THE REPUBLICANS FOR IT BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE TICKET.
02:53:49SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE SOFTER.
02:53:53BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT HE OR THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY RADICAL. AND,
02:53:56YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PULL A
02:53:58PUTIN, YOU KNOW.
02:54:01>> YES, DEFINITELY. BECAUSE I
02:54:03DON'T THINK WE'RE WOKE UP TO THE FACT THAT HOW DANGEROUS HE
02:54:07IS. WE KEEP ACTING LIKE HE'S STILL A CEO. WE'RE NOT ACTING
02:54:09LIKE HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE
02:54:13COUNTRY, REPRESENTING ALL OF US.
02:54:15AND IT'S REALLY A STUNNING THAT OUR METHODOLOGY IS BASICALLY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET THEM
02:54:18LET HIM DO WHAT HE'S DOING. AND,
02:54:20AND NOT REALLY PEGGING DOWN THE FACT THAT WHAT HE'S DOING IS
02:54:24SICK. YEAH, IT'S MENTALLY ILL. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT OUT
02:54:27STRONGER AND STRONGER. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY ABILITY TO
02:54:30NEUTER HIM TO THE LAST TWO YEARS OF HIS PRESIDENCY.
02:54:34>> WELL SAID. COMPLETELY AGREE. JEFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT
02:54:37WAS VERY WELL SAID. DENNIS. IN ROBELINE, LOUISIANA. HEY,
02:54:40DENNIS. WHAT'S UP? >> HI, HOWARD. I'M DOING GOOD.
02:54:44MAN
02:54:56, AND PEOPLE LOSE FAITH. MHM.
02:54:57WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THE MONEY,
02:55:01AMERICA HAVE AND START SHOVELING
02:55:03AROUND FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT WANT
02:55:09TO RAISE THE WALL AND THE SADDEST THING, I'M GOING TO TELL
02:55:13ME WHAT THE IT'S GOING TO BE A
02:55:18BAD THING IN HERE, MAN. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> AND ALL I CAN SAY FOR
02:55:22AMERICAN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY HAVEN'T PRAYED SINCE 9/11.
02:55:25YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, GOD DON'T
02:55:26EVEN EXIST ANYMORE IN AMERICA.
02:55:34THING THAT'S GOING ON. I JUST
02:55:36PRAY TO GOD THAT, UH, THEIR
02:55:39SENSES AND REALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S THE. >> I'M WITH YOU, DENNIS. I'M
02:55:43WITH YOU. VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LOVE YOUR
02:55:46ACCENT. BY THE WAY, GABRIEL, IN,
02:55:48UH, GABRIEL IN LYNNWOOD,
02:55:53WASHINGTON. HEY, WHAT'S UP?
02:56:04>> UM, I CALL THEM THE RED TEAM.
02:56:06UM, I, I HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE
02:56:09ON INSTAGRAM, I POSTED SOMETHING
02:56:11ABOUT PEOPLE WITH BIG FANCY
02:56:14TRUCKS MUST BE PRIVILEGED HAD SO
02:56:19MANY COMMENTS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE VERY ANGRY WITH ME,
02:56:24CALLING KNOW, UGLY OLD, YOU
02:56:28KNOW, PATHETIC, STUPID. SURE. UM
02:56:42CALL US REPUBLICANS AND REPUGS.
02:56:43>> AND >> TEAM.
02:56:47>> I LIKE THAT IDEA. I LIKE THAT IDEA. GABRIELLE. I LIKE THAT, THAT'S.
02:56:51>> IT SOFTENS MY HEART. IT DOES SOFTEN MY HEART. AND I HAVE A
02:56:54FRIEND WHO'S A BUDDHIST MONK, AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL
02:56:57ABOUT LOVE, MAN. AND SO WITH DOLLY PARTON. >> SO THERE YOU GO. GABRIELLE.
02:57:01BRILLIANT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT. >> AND MY BEST, MY BEST OUT HERE.
02:57:05>> YOU SURE ARE. THANK YOU. RITA
02:57:07IN MISSOULA, MONTANA. HEY, RITA.
02:57:10WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
02:57:17>> RESPONSE TO THE WOMAN WHO, UH, FROM MICHIGAN, WHO CALLED, CONCERNED ABOUT HER FRIEND AND
02:57:21HIS FEAR ABOUT SHARIA LAW UM,
02:57:23JUST, UM, REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE
02:57:26THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND, UH,
02:57:30THE FEAR WE NEED TO HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THAT ANY RELIGION IS
02:57:33USING THAT AS A LITMUS TEST. FOR
02:57:36EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO IMPOSE, UM, CHRISTIAN,
02:57:39MAKING AMERICA A CHRISTIAN NATION.
02:57:43>> WRIGHT CHRISTIAN LAW, ESSENTIALLY. >> FIRST AMENDMENT TELLS US
02:57:46EXACTLY. UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT
02:57:48LETS AGAINST MY RELIGION. IT
02:57:53DOESN'T DO THAT. IT'S AGAINST
02:57:57MY RELIGION. SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T VOTE FOR PEOPLE THAT
02:58:00MAKE, UH, RELIGION A LITMUS
02:58:02TEST, I THINK WILL BE OKAY. >> YEAH. AND NOBODY'S GOING TO
02:58:06IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON ANYBODY, SO. YEAH. WELL SAID. RITA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS.
02:58:09ABSOLUTELY THAT WAS EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. JUDY IN CHICAGO,
02:58:12JUDY, YOU GOT THE LAST 30s. YOU
02:58:14GOT A QUICK ONE.
02:58:17>> OKAY. SURE, SURE, SURE SAID
02:58:22BEFORE THE ELECTION IN 2024. HE
02:58:25SAID, PURPOSELY, WE'RE GOING TO
02:58:27PURPOSELY TANK THE ECONOMY TO
02:58:30MAKE IT BETTER. MHM. IT'S LIKE, YEAH, BETTER FOR WHO? RIGHT. SO
02:58:33LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW,
02:58:35UH THEY BUY UP EVERYTHING, BUT
02:58:38THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW?
02:58:43YEAH. EVERYBODY EVERY STORY, EVERY QUOTE. >> THERE YOU GO.
02:58:46>> THERE'S >> GET READY. IN OTHER WORDS,
02:58:48JUDY. THANK YOU. SPOT ON. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
02:58:51TODAY. AND SPECIAL THANKS TO LOUISE HARTMAN, SEAN TAYLOR,
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02:59:09THE FINE PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THIS PROGRAM AND HELP BRING IT TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE
02:59:13GOOD WORD ABOUT OUR PROGRAM WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. AND GET OUT THERE, GET ACTIVE. HAVE
02:59:17A WONDERFUL WEEKEND. STAY SAFE.
02:59:20BE GOOD. I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU ON MONDAY. TAG. YOU'RE IT. SEE
02:59:24YOU MONDAY. >> YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO
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02:59:55ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG.
02:59:57>> IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS, I
03:00:00HURRIED OFF TO SCHOOL JUST TO
03:00:03FIND THE OTHERS LAUGHING AND MAKING FUN OF ME IN MY COAT OF
03:00:05MANY COLORS THAT MAMA MADE FOR
03:00:10ME. IN MY COAT OF MANY ME. MADE
03:00:16ONLY FROM RAGS. BUT I WORE IT SO
03:00:19PROUDLY. AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD NO
03:00:23MONEY, I WAS RICH AS I COULD BE.
03:00:27IN MY COAT OF MANY COLORS. MAMA
03:00:30MADE FOR ME. >> DOLLY PARTON. READING AND
03:00:34SINGING TO CHILDREN. IN A 2018
03:00:36APPEARANCE ON C-SPAN, THE TENNESSEE NATIVE, WHO DIED THIS
03:00:40WEEK AT THE AGE OF 80, HAS DONATED MORE THAN 300 MILLION
03:00:43BOOKS TO CHILDREN. AS PART OF
03:00:45HER IMAGINATION LIBRARY PROGRAM.
03:00:49ON SATURDAY, WE'LL REMEMBER THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOLLY PARTON
03:00:52THROUGH HER APPEARANCES ON
03:00:54C-SPAN. WATCH AT 8 P.M. EASTERN.