CSPAN3 — Jon Meacham American Struggle

20260816 04:51 UTC · 01:11:00 · 1264 transcript segments · GDELT Visual Explorer · plain-text transcript · Event Map

Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Jon Meacham told America's complicated story through the words of those who have shaped our national debates from 1619 into the early 21st century. To read highlights from those accounts, he was joined by Academy Award actor Ellen Burstyn and Stephen Lang, best known for his roles in the movie "Gettysburg" and the "Avatar" series. The Roosevelt House Public Policy Institute at Hunter College in New York hosted this event.<br /><br />Sponsor: Hunter College | Roosevelt House Public Policy Institute

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00:00:00TO THIS COUNTRY DURING THE TIME THAT YOU WERE CARING THE MAIL
00:00:04DURING THE PANDEMIC?
00:00:06I THINK ALL OF US HAVE TO
00:00:10DELIBERATELY TRY TO REMEMBER HOW ISOLATING THOSE FIRST MONTHS OF
00:00:13THE PANDEMIC WERE. WE WERE ALL STUCK AT HOME.
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00:00:20COUNTRYSIDE, THAT MEANT YOU WEREN'T GOING INTO TOWN.
00:00:24YOU WEREN'T BUMPING INTO NEIGHBORS AT THE GROCERY STORE.
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00:01:06BOOK TV CONTINUES NOW.
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00:01:12WELCOME TO EVERYONE GATHERED
00:01:14HERE AT ROOSEVELT HOUSE, AS WELL
00:01:16AS THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ON
00:01:18BOTH ZOOM AND C-SPAN FOR WHAT
00:01:22PROMISES TO BE ONE OF THE MOST UNUSUAL PROGRAMS WE'VE DONE AT
00:01:26ROOSEVELT HOUSE. I FEEL A LOT OF ENERGY IN THIS
00:01:30ROOM, AND THE WEIGHT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING THIS
00:01:34WORK. WE'LL SEE. I WANT TO CERTAINLY THANK THE
00:01:38BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE WHO ARE
00:01:40JOIN US, WHO HAVE JOINED US ARE
00:01:43CHAIR RITA HAUSER IS HERE.
00:01:50JILLIAN SORENSEN IS HERE.
00:01:56I THINK SUSAN STEINHART IS HERE.
00:02:01YES. AND A FEW OTHERS WILL AMBLE IN. I'M HAROLD HOLZER AND I HAVE THE
00:02:04HONOR OF SERVING AS DIRECTOR OF
00:02:08ROOSEVELT HOUSE AND VICE.
00:02:13ON BEHALF OF HUNTER COLLEGE PRESIDENT NANCY CANTOR, WHO IS
00:02:17HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
00:02:21IT'S A PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE A
00:02:25DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE AUGMENTED BY DRAMATIZATION,
00:02:29DRAWN FROM THE LATEST BOOK FROM A PULITZER PRIZE WINNING AUTHOR
00:02:32WHO HAS DEVOTED HIS CAREER TO
00:02:37EXPLORING AND, IN EFFECT, SUMMONING THE SOUL OF AMERICA,
00:02:41EVEN WHEN IT SEEMS FOR MANY TO BE MORE LIKE A LOST SOUL THAN A
00:02:45LIVING SPIRIT. IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO WELCOME
00:02:49TO WELCOME BACK. IN THIS CASE, SCHOLAR, WRITER,
00:02:53JOURNALIST, PUBLIC HISTORIAN, TELEVISION COMMENTATOR,
00:02:55PRESIDENTIAL ADVISER AND ORATOR IN HIS OWN RIGHT.
00:02:59THAT'S JUST ONE OF OUR GUESTS,
00:03:02THE MAN, WALTER ISAACSON HAS
00:03:04CALLED OUR PREEMINENT HISTORIAN
00:03:07OF AMERICAN VALUES, JOHN MEACHAM.
00:03:09AND I'LL.
00:03:16WHAT BRINGS US TOGETHER ALONG
00:03:19WITH OUR OTHER SPECIAL GUESTS, WHOM I'LL INTRODUCE A LITTLE BIT
00:03:22DOWN THE LINE, IS HIS NEW BOOK,
00:03:25AMERICAN STRUGGLE DEMOCRACY,
00:03:27DISSENT AND THE PURSUIT OF A
00:03:29MORE PERFECT UNION, AN ANTHOLOGY
00:03:33FILLED WITH SOME OF THE MOST
00:03:35EERILY RELEVANT, INSPIRING AND
00:03:39OCCASIONALLY DISPIRITING WORDS
00:03:41OF THE 400 YEARS OF AMERICAN
00:03:43HISTORY IT COVERS FROM A 1619 LETTER THAT SEEMS SO ORDINARY,
00:03:49COMMENTED ON THE ARRIVAL OF ENSLAVED AFRICANS TO JAMESTOWN
00:03:53TO A.
00:03:56225 TO 20 OVER 25. COMMENT A COMMENTARY ON
00:04:01AUTHORITARIANISM. AND IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO DESPAIR WRITING ENTRIES ARE JUST A
00:04:07WONDERFUL GOLDEN BOOK OF THE BEST OF US.
00:04:10WHEN WE REACH OUR BEST UPLIFTING
00:04:14SPEECHES THAT REMIND US AND JOHN'S WORDS THAT AMERICANS
00:04:18SCRIPTURE IS PERHAPS MOST DRAMATIC.
00:04:20WHILE THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT SEEMS MOST FRAGILE.
00:04:24SO TONIGHT, WE'LL HEAR AND DISCUSS WORDS THAT REMIND US OF
00:04:27BOTH THE FOUNDING AND PROMISE OF
00:04:31REMAINING CHALLENGES TO THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT, AND ALSO
00:04:35REMINDING US THAT AMERICAN
00:04:37POLARIZATION IS NOT NEW, THAT
00:04:41THE VOICES OF THE PAST, HOWEVER,
00:04:43CAN INFORM THE WISDOM THAT WE
00:04:47NEED FOR THE FUTURE AND MAKE PROPER CAUTION. IT THE PRESENT.
00:04:51SO TONIGHT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE
00:04:54BOOK AND HEAR SOME OF THE WORDS.
00:04:56IT FEATURES NOT NOT THE CONTRARY
00:05:01AND THREATENING MESSAGES, ALAS, BECAUSE IT JUST WOULD TAKE TOO
00:05:05MUCH TIME TO DIRECT YOU. AND THEN RE INSPIRE YOU.
00:05:09SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THE BEST OF THE BEST, BUT WE'LL TALK
00:05:11ABOUT ALL AND WHAT A SPECIAL
00:05:16TREAT IT IS TO BE INTRODUCING THIS FORMAT AND THE ONE TIME
00:05:19HOME OF TWO OF THE AMERICAN
00:05:23ORIGINALS WHOSE WORDS ANIMATE THIS BOOK AND WHOSE WORDS WE
00:05:25WILL HEAR TONIGHT. FRANKLIN AND ELEANOR ROOSEVELT.
00:05:29AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, FDR RECOVERED FROM POLIO IN THIS
00:05:33HOUSE, RAN HIS GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGNS AND HIS FIRST
00:05:37PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. FROM HERE, GAVE HIS FIRST
00:05:40FIRESIDE CHAT UPSTAIRS AND
00:05:43WORKED WITH HIS BRAIN TRUST TWO
00:05:45FLOORS ABOVE US TO FORGE THE NEW
00:05:47DEAL AND ELEANOR LAUNCHED HER
00:05:51OWN PUBLIC SERVICE CAREER UNDER THIS ROOF.
00:05:55IF ONLY AT FIRST TO ESCAPE. THE MOTHER IN LAW WHO BUILT THIS
00:05:59HOME AND THEN EXTENDED HER DOMINANCE.
00:06:03BUT ABOVE ALL, WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT JON MEACHAM IS BACK.
00:06:06HE HOLDS THE ROGERS ENDOWED
00:06:08CHAIR AT ON THE AMERICAN PRESIDENCY AT VANDERBILT
00:06:12UNIVERSITY AND ALSO SERVES AS
00:06:14CANON HISTORIAN OF THE
00:06:17WASHINGTON NATIONAL CATHEDRAL. HE'S WRITTEN ABOUT PRESIDENTS
00:06:20THOMAS JEFFERSON, ANDREW JACKSON
00:06:23AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN, GEORGE H.W.
00:06:25BUSH, AND OF COURSE, FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT.
00:06:28HIS ENTRY TO THE HOUSE AMONG HIS
00:06:29MANY AWARDS ARE NINE HONORARY
00:06:33DEGREES AND THE HONOR OF SPEAKING AT THE 2020 DEMOCRATIC
00:06:36NATIONAL CONVENTION. SO WE'LL SPEND SOME TIME TALKING
00:06:40WITH HIM AND THEN ADD THE PERFORMANCE ELEMENT WE THINK
00:06:43WILL BRING THE AMERICAN STRUGGLE TO LIFE AND WITH THAT, PLEASE
00:06:47WELCOME TO THE STAGE, MY DEAR
00:06:49FRIEND, JOHN MEACHAM.
00:07:01WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THAT IS I CAN'T HOLD A JOB.
00:07:07JESUS. IT'S A LOT OF JACK OF ALL TRADES. YEAH.
00:07:11YEAH. AND MASTER OF MANY. NO, NO, BUT WE'RE TRYING.
00:07:16SO, JOHN, WE'RE APPROACHING AMERICA.
00:07:19250, SO IT'S PROBABLY OBVIOUS
00:07:22WHY YOU PRODUCED THIS NEW BOOK
00:07:24WHEN YOU DID AND WHY YOU THINK
00:07:28IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT HOW DID YOU
00:07:30CHOOSE THE SPEECHES AND LETTERS
00:07:32THAT YOU INCLUDED ON BOTH THE UPLIFTING AND THE DISPIRITED VARIETY?
00:07:36WELL, THIS IS FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO HAROLD AND EVERYONE
00:07:40FOR HAVING ME BACK.
00:07:42AS SOMEONE WHO HAS A DIFFICULT
00:07:44MOTHER IN LAW, I LOVE BEING HERE.
00:07:48LET'S HOPE SHE DOESN'T EVER SEE
00:07:51THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM.
00:07:55AND JUST THERE'S NOTHING MORE
00:07:59IMPORTANT THAN THE TACTILE NATURE OF HISTORY AND THE
00:08:03PRESERVATION OF A PLACE LIKE
00:08:04THIS WHERE YOU CAN STAND AND SIT
00:08:10IN PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT'S CASE,
00:08:13WHERE EVERYTHING HAPPENED AND
00:08:17ONE OF THE THINGS I FIND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND PART OF THE
00:08:19IMPETUS BEHIND THIS BOOK WAS AND
00:08:23THERE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY HUNGER
00:08:24IN THE COUNTRY TO TALK ABOUT IT,
00:08:27BUT NOT TO TALK ABOUT HIM.
00:08:32ANTECEDENTS. IT'S CLEAR RIGHT?
00:08:34AND IN MANY WAYS, THIS BOOK IS A
00:08:36SEQUENTIAL VOLUME TO A BOOK I DID IN 2018 CALLED THE SOUL OF
00:08:41AMERICA, WHERE I ARGUED THAT THE
00:08:43SOUL WHICH IN HEBREW AND IN GREEK MEANS BREATH OR LIFE IS
00:08:47EXCEPT IN THE MOST EXTREME
00:08:49CASES, IS NOT WHOLLY GOOD OR
00:08:53WHOLLY EVIL. IT'S AN ARENA OF CONTENTION
00:08:56WHERE OUR WORST INSTINCTS DO
00:08:58BATTLE WITH OUR BETTER ANGELS. AND IF WE'RE LUCKY, OUR BETTER
00:09:02ANGELS WIN A FEW. NOW I KNOW YOU ALL ARE BETTER
00:09:06PEOPLE THAN I AM, WHICH IS NOT HARD. SO DON'T GET COCKY.
00:09:08BUT I KNOW THAT IF I DO THE RIGHT THING 51% OF THE TIME,
00:09:12THAT'S A HELL OF A GOOD DAY. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT MANY OF THOSE.
00:09:16AND SO WHY WOULD A POPULAR
00:09:18GOVERNMENT THAT'S BASED ON OUR
00:09:20DISPOSITIONS OF HEART AND MIND,
00:09:23A DEMOCRACY, WHY WOULD THAT BE ANY DIFFERENT?
00:09:26AND SO WITHOUT UNDER STANDING
00:09:30THESE STRUGGLES WHICH ARE
00:09:32PERENNIAL AND ARE FUNDAMENTAL
00:09:35HUMAN DEMOCRACIES ARE ABOUT GIVE AND TAKE.
00:09:39AND IT'S A HELL OF A LOT MORE
00:09:40FUN TO TAKE THAN TO GIVE, RIGHT? EVER SINCE THE SECOND CHAPTER OF
00:09:45GENESIS, WE'VE BEEN TAKING A PIECE OF FRUIT.
00:09:48WE WERE TOLD NOT TO TAKE IT. WE WANTED IT. WE TOOK IT.
00:09:50MAYHEM ENSUES.
00:09:52RHYME AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO
00:09:56IN MANY WAYS IS GET OUT OF THE
00:09:58WAY IN THIS BOOK I TOLD A
00:10:01STUDENT AT VANDERBILT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, SHE ASKED WHAT
00:10:04THIS BOOK WAS ABOUT. AND I SAID, WELL, IT'S THE BEST
00:10:08BOOK I EVER XEROXED.
00:10:10AND AND SHE SAID, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
00:10:12SO THAT WASN'T GOOD.
00:10:16BUT I WANTED I WANTED I WANTED
00:10:18TO LET BOTH THE HEROES AND THE VILLAINS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
00:10:22AND THE SELECTION, SOME OF IT IS
00:10:26ESSENTIAL. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY OBVIOUS, BUT ESSENTIAL. BUT YOU PUBLISHED SOME THINGS
00:10:28THAT WERE THAT SURPRISED ME WHEN YOU DID JOE MCCARTHY AND OTHER
00:10:34THINGS. YEAH, WELL, YOU YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO DO A HEROIC BOOK, THAT'S FINE.
00:10:38BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEARN FROM SAINTS. WE'RE GOING TO LEARN FROM
00:10:40SINNERS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM, WHICH IS GOOD GIVEN THE
00:10:43RELATIVE PROPORTION OF THE TWO IN THE POPULATION.
00:10:45THERE'S A LOT MORE TO LEARN. NO, I DON'T THINK WE I DON'T
00:10:49THINK WE DO OURSELVES ANY FAVORS AT THIS POINT BY EITHER
00:10:54PRETENDING OR ASSUMING THAT, BECAUSE THE REPUBLIC HAS
00:10:57ENDURED, IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENDURE.
00:10:59I DON'T THINK THAT'S AUTOMATIC AT ALL.
00:11:03I'M SOMETIMES ACCUSED OF BEING
00:11:05OVERLY OPTIMISTIC, WHICH REMINDS ME OF MY FAVORITE STORY ABOUT
00:11:09BEING OVERLY OPTIMISTIC.
00:11:11IT'S A QUICK STORY ABOUT GREAT TWEETS.
00:11:15IT'S LIKE FRENCH MILITARY VICTORIES IN THE 20TH CENTURY. IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG.
00:11:19THERE AREN'T MANY OF THEM. BUT SOMEONE TWEETED OUT ABOUT A YEAR AGO THAT IF DORIS GOODWIN
00:11:23AND MR. ROGERS HAD HAD A ONE NIGHT STAND, I WOULD HAVE
00:11:28RESULTED AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
00:11:32GREAT, RIGHT. DORIS WAS KIND OF IRRITATED.
00:11:35SO SHE LEARNED HOW TO USE HER CELL PHONE. AND SHE CALLED ME AND IT POPPED
00:11:38UP AND I SAID, MOM, SHE SAID, THAT'S NOT FUNNY. AND I SAID, WHY ISN'T IT FUNNY?
00:11:42IS THAT THIS IS GREAT. SHE SAID, I DON'T MIND BEING YOUR MOTHER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE A FLOOZY.
00:11:46AND I SAID, LOOK, YOU THOUGHT THE SNEAKERS AND THE SWEATER WERE HOT.
00:11:50IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY. WE DO HAVE TO SEE EACH OTHER AS
00:11:54NEIGHBORS. THAT'S THE CENTRAL INSIGHT. I BELIEVE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE
00:11:57FOUR FREEDOMS HERE AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM, A CENTRAL INSIGHT
00:12:01OF THE MAN WHO LIVED UPSTAIRS
00:12:04WAS THAT WHEN DEMOCRATIC CAPITALISM WAS IN ITS HOUR OF
00:12:08MAXIMUM DANGER, TO USE A PHRASE
00:12:11THAT MR. SORENSON HELPED WITH,
00:12:14WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO INSISTED
00:12:19THAT WE SEE EACH OTHER NOT AS
00:12:21ENEMIES IN THE SAME WAY WE DID
00:12:25IN HOLZER'S ERA.
00:12:26NOT WHAT KIND OF LITERALLY, BUT
00:12:30WITH LINCOLN, WE CAN HAVE RIVALS
00:12:33AND OPPONENTS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THOSE,
00:12:36BUT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ENEMIES BECAUSE OF IT.
00:12:39IF THE STAKES OF A DEMOCRACY ARE
00:12:42YOU DESTROY THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE.
00:12:46THAT'S NOT DELIBERATIVE GOVERNMENT, RIGHT?
00:12:48THAT'S TOTAL WAR.
00:12:50AND THAT WAY MADNESS LIES.
00:12:54SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE WE INVITE OUR OUR COLLEAGUES TO JOIN US.
00:12:59BUT I WOULD LOVE YOU, THREE FOLKS, TO SIT. THERE ARE THREE SEATS HERE.
00:13:02SO THREE OF YOU MAY SIT.
00:13:05WHO IS YOU? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT JEFFERSON AND LINCOLN.
00:13:08WHO ARE THE SURPRISE GREAT WRITER. IS THAT YOU?
00:13:12THAT YOU PUT INTO THE WELL, ONE OF MY FAVORITES IS AND HE WAS A
00:13:15VERY GOOD WRITER, NOT WILDLY
00:13:17ARTICULATE IN PERSON. AND YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER THIS.
00:13:21GEORGE H.W. BUSH, WHO WAS ON
00:13:27PAPER REALLY GOOD.
00:13:29AND HE LEFT A DIARY ENTRY ABOUT
00:13:33RUNNING INTO A HARD CORE RIGHT
00:13:38WING REPUBLICAN IN THE PRIMARIES
00:13:42OF 1988. AND IN THIS CASE, IT WAS A PAT ROBERTSON SUPPORTER.
00:13:46AND AS HE PUT IT, SHE WAS
00:13:49STARING THING AND MEAN AND HARSH.
00:13:52AND IT REMINDED HIM AS HE PUT
00:13:54IT, OF THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY
00:13:56BACK IN TEXAS IN THE EARLY 1960S.
00:14:00AND SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING GLIMPSE OF THAT.
00:14:02AND THEN THERE'S THE LETTER WHERE GEORGE BUSH, AFTER THE
00:14:06NRA, SENT OUT A FUNDRAISING
00:14:10MAILER THAT CALLED AFTER
00:14:12OKLAHOMA CITY AND RUBY RIDGE
00:14:15THAT REFERRED TO FEDERAL AGENTS
00:14:17AS JACKBOOTED THUGS AND BUSH
00:14:21WENT INTO HIS OFFICE ON A SATURDAY MORNING IN HOUSTON, SAT DOWN, DIDN'T TALK TO ANYBODY
00:14:25ABOUT IT, AND WROTE A LETTER TO WAYNE LAPIERRE, RESIGNING AS A
00:14:28LIFE MEMBER OF THE NRA.
00:14:32AND HE SAID IT OFFENDS MY
00:14:34CONCEPT OF SERVICE TO COUNTRY TO
00:14:36REFER TO FEDERAL AGENTS IN TERMS
00:14:39THAT WE USED FOR THE NAZIS. AND SO THERE ARE THESE MOMENTS
00:14:44RIGHT? AND THE OTHER THING I KNOW WE'RE
00:14:47GOING TO HEAR IT, BUT I THOUGHT
00:14:48ELIZABETH CADY STANTON'S.
00:14:52TESTIMONY THIS IS THE BEST
00:14:55TESTIMONY EVER TO A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING WAS AMAZING.
00:14:58YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED IT. EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE GIVEN THAT
00:15:01SURPRISE AWAY THAT A GREAT WELL, I'M HERE TO I'M HERE TO. YEAH.
00:15:04SO WE DON'T WANT TO UPSET PEOPLE.
00:15:06I THINK IT IS TIME NOW TO HEAR
00:15:09SOME SAMPLINGS FROM THE BOOK,
00:15:11FROM AMERICAN SCRIPTURE, AS IT WERE.
00:15:14AND WE'RE EXCITED AND FEEL VERY
00:15:17PRIVILEGED TO WELCOME TO AMAZING
00:15:21ACTORS TO ROOSEVELT HOUSE, ONE
00:15:24WHO HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE IS THE
00:15:26EXTRAORDINARY ACTOR AND WRITER
00:15:29STEPHEN LANG, A STAR OF SUCH
00:15:31STAGE TRIUMPHS AS A FEW GOOD MEN
00:15:33AND DEATH OF A SALESMAN AND.
00:15:40THE THE DANISH PLAY HAMLET,
00:15:46ALONG WITH HIS OWN ONE MAN SHOW ABOUT MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS
00:15:48CALLED BEYOND GLORY ON
00:15:52TELEVISION. NOW, IN THE SECOND SEASON OF AN
00:15:55AMAZING SERIES CALLED HOUSE OF DAVID. AND OF COURSE, FILMS LIKE
00:15:59TOMBSTONE AND GETTYSBURG AND THE
00:16:01RECENT DON'T BREATHE SERIES AND
00:16:05ALSO AS THE INDESTRUCTIBLE
00:16:07COLONEL IN THE AVATAR FRANCHISE.
00:16:11JOINING HIM THIS EVENING FOR HER FIRST VISIT TO ROOSEVELT HOUSE
00:16:15IS THE OSCAR TONY AND EMMY AWARD
00:16:19WINNING ACTRESS ELLEN BURSTYN,
00:16:21WHO MADE HER BROADCAST.
00:16:29WHO MADE HER BROADWAY DEBUT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. AND YOU PROBABLY WON'T WHEN SHE
00:16:33COMES UP. 69 YEARS AGO AND HAS BEEN
00:16:36REGALING US WITH STORIES OF HER
00:16:39RECOLLECTIONS OF PEARL HARBOR DAY, WHICH INTERRUPTED HER
00:16:44BIRTHDAY. SHE'S THIS DECEMBER. SOME OF GAL SHE WON THE TONY FOR
00:16:47A SAME TIME NEXT YEAR.
00:16:49AND THE ACADEMY AWARD FOR ALICE
00:16:51DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE WITH
00:16:55ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS FOR THE EXORCIST AND RESURRECTION, SHE
00:16:58ALSO HAS A NEW BOOK OUT CALLED
00:17:02POETRY. SHE SAYS IT BETTER. SO WE WE'RE KIND OF GLAD WE
00:17:05ASKED HER TO DO A POEM TONIGHT.
00:17:07AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME
00:17:09THAT LANGE AND BURSTYN HAVE APPEARED TOGETHER.
00:17:12HE PLAYED HER SON IN LAW IN A
00:17:16MOVIE CALLED TWICE IN A LIFETIME.
00:17:19AND THEIR THEIR SYNERGY WAS NOT ENOUGH TO KEEP THE MARRIAGE
00:17:22TOGETHER, BUT IT WAS A GREAT IT WAS A GREAT MOVIE. AND THEY'RE BOTH DEEPLY INVOLVED
00:17:26IN THE ACTORS STUDIO AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS WITH WITH
00:17:30ELLEN BURSTYN AS AS THE PRESIDENT AND STEVEN ON THE BOARD.
00:17:33SO THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF ONCE IN A LIFETIME.
00:17:37SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING
00:17:39ELLEN BURSTYN AND STEVEN LAND.
00:17:59HELLO, EVERYBODY.
00:18:03SO WE'RE GOING TO START,
00:18:05APPROPRIATELY ENOUGH, WITH THE
00:18:07PREAMBLE TO THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.
00:18:11JOHN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FIRST, JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT
00:18:14ABOUT JEFFERSON, THE IDEALIST, THE PRAGMATIST WHO, AS YOU PUT
00:18:18IT, COULDN'T MARSHAL HIS SENSE
00:18:20OF HOPE IN SERVICE TO REAL
00:18:24REFORM. I THINK THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS.
00:18:26HE WROTE BETTER THAN I DID, WHICH IS GOOD.
00:18:30THAT'S NOT A VERY ELEGANT SENTENCE. THAT'S MINE.
00:18:32YOU LOOK, THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS A POLITICIAN.
00:18:36THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT HIM. HE WANTED TO BE SEEN AS A
00:18:42PHILOSOPHER, BUT HE WAS
00:18:44INCONSISTENT BECAUSE HE WAS
00:18:46HUMAN AND HIS HE SPENT 40 YEARS
00:18:50OF BIBLICAL, 40 YEARS AMASSING
00:18:54AND WIELDING POLITICAL POWER AS
00:18:58A YOUNG MAN, 33 YEARS OLD.
00:19:01HE WROTE WHAT BECAME THE MOST
00:19:05IMPORTANT SENTENCE, I WOULD ARGUE ORIGINALLY RENDERED IN ENGLISH.
00:19:09AND HE DID IT NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WAS A BRIGHT YOUNG POLITICIAN
00:19:12OF VIRGINIA, BUT BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN IN A KIND OF FIGURATIVE
00:19:15CONVERSATION WITH THE PREVIOUS THREE OR 4 OR 5 CENTURIES.
00:19:20GUTENBERG, THE REFORMATIONS, THE ENLIGHTENMENT. THIS ENTIRE REORIENTATION OF THE
00:19:24WORLD FROM BEING SEEN AS VERTICAL TO BEING SEEN AS MORE
00:19:26HORIZONTAL, HE COULDN'T APPLY IT
00:19:29FULLY TO EVERYONE, AND HE FAILED
00:19:33IN THAT. BUT AS MY FRIEND, OUR FRIEND,
00:19:35ANNETTE GORDON-REED LIKES TO SAY
00:19:38WHEN SHE'S ASKED ABOUT THIS, HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FROM ONE
00:19:42PERSON? SO THESE ARE THE WORDS THAT WHEN
00:19:45THEY WERE READ IN CITY HALL PARK
00:19:47OF THE GROUP OF LISTENERS, TORE
00:19:50THEIR WAY DOWN TO THE TIP OF
00:19:53MANHATTAN AND HAULED DOWN THE
00:19:54STATUE OF KING GEORGE WHEN WORDS
00:19:57MATTERED, THE IN CONGRESS, JULY
00:20:034TH, 1776, WHEN IN THE COURSE OF
00:20:06HUMAN EVENTS, IT BECOMES NECESSARY FOR ONE PEOPLE TO
00:20:10DISSOLVE THE POLITICAL BANDS
00:20:12WHICH HAVE CONNECTED THEM WITH
00:20:14ANOTHER, AND TO ASSUME AMONG THE POWERS OF THE EARTH THE SEPARATE
00:20:19AND EQUAL STATION TO WHICH THE
00:20:21LAWS OF NATURE AND OF NATURE'S
00:20:24GOD ENTITLE THEM, A DECENT
00:20:28RESPECT TO THE OPINIONS OF MANKIND REQUIRES THAT THEY
00:20:31SHOULD DECLARE THE CAUSES WHICH
00:20:34IMPEL THEM TO THE SEPARATION.
00:20:38WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE
00:20:40SELF-EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE
00:20:45ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN AND ALIENABLE RIGHTS.
00:20:50THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE,
00:20:52LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
00:20:56THAT TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, GOVERN MEN ARE INSTITUTED AMONG
00:21:00MEN, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS
00:21:03FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.
00:21:06THAT WHENEVER ANY FORM OF
00:21:08GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE
00:21:10OF THESE ENDS, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO
00:21:14ABOLISH IT AND TO INSTITUTE NEW GOVERNMENT, LAYING ITS
00:21:19FOUNDATION ON SUCH PRINCIPLES. AN ORGANIZING ITS POWERS IN SUCH
00:21:24FORM AS TO THEM SHALL SEEM MOST
00:21:27LIKELY TO EFFECT THEIR SAFETY
00:21:29AND HAPPINESS.
00:21:36SO.
00:21:40AND YET THE PHRASE COVERED LESS
00:21:43THAN HALF THE POPULATION. IT EXCLUDED ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR
00:21:47AND ALL WOMEN.
00:21:49SO WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 32%.
00:21:53SO HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THE SLOW
00:21:57MARCH TOWARD AS CLOSE AS WE'VE
00:22:00GOTTEN TO THAT IDEAL OF
00:22:04EQUALITY? IN THE BOOK? WELL, BY HAVING THE VOICES THAT
00:22:08DISSENTED FROM THE ASSUMPTION
00:22:13THAT FREEDOM WAS UNIVERSAL AT THE BEGINNING, IT WASN'T.
00:22:16AND SO THE MOVEMENT FOR SUFFRAGE, THE MOVEMENT FOR
00:22:20ABOLITION IN THE VERY NOT PARTICULARLY COMPELLING OR
00:22:25EFFECTIVE OPPOSITION TO THE REMOVAL OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
00:22:29PROTEST IS COZY EVIL WITH THE
00:22:33AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
00:22:3725% OF US DIDN'T WANT TO BREAK AWAY FROM BRITAIN.
00:22:39WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING SINCE THEN. ALL RIGHT.
00:22:43SO I THINK THE REMARKABLE THING.
00:22:46LOOK, I'M A BORINGLY HETERO, ASEXUAL, WHITE, SOUTHERN MALE,
00:22:50EPISCOPALIAN. I THINK THINGS WORK OUT FOR ME IN THIS COUNTRY. RIGHT.
00:22:53THE POINT OF THE COUNTRY IS THAT
00:22:55IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK OUT FOR EVERYONE.
00:22:58AND IT'S TAKEN US TOO LONG TO
00:23:00RECOGNIZE AND REALIZE THE
00:23:03IMPLICATIONS OF THAT SENTENCE.
00:23:05BUT WE DID IT VOLUNTARILY,
00:23:11POWERFULLY, POWERFULLY. READ ONE POWERFULLY WRITTEN.
00:23:16AND IT WAS THE MISSION STATEMENT.
00:23:19AND EVERY EVERY GENERATION HAS,
00:23:22I THINK, BEEN ABLE TO JUDGE
00:23:25ITSELF BY THE DEGREE TO WHICH IT HAS FULFILLED IT OR THE DEGREE
00:23:28TO WHICH IT HAS FALLEN SHORT OF IT.
00:23:31AND THAT'S WHAT LINCOLN THOUGHT.
00:23:33AS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO. YOU KNOW, HE SAID IT.
00:23:37YOU KNOW, HE PRAISED JEFFERSON
00:23:39FOR HAVING THE COOLNESS FOR
00:23:41CASTE AND CAPACITY TO INSERT INTO A MERELY REVOLUTIONARY
00:23:45DOCUMENT AN ABSTRACT TRUTH WHICH SHOULD AT ALL TIMES BE A
00:23:48STUMBLING BLOCK TO REAPPEARING
00:23:50TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION.
00:23:53AND AND WHEN DR. KING REACHED
00:23:57THE PERORATION OF THE MARCH ON
00:23:59WASHINGTON SERMON, WHAT DID HE SAY?
00:24:05LIVE UP TO YOUR CREED.
00:24:07JUST FOLLOW WHAT YOU SAID.
00:24:11AND THAT IS, IN FACT, THE
00:24:17STRUGGLE. SO I KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALL BEEN
00:24:19GLUED TO RECENT HOUSE TESTIMONY
00:24:23AND THE THE HIGH LEVEL OF
00:24:25REPARTEE AND DISCUSS IN THIS
00:24:32WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR NOW FROM HIS BURSTON IS TESTIMONY IN
00:24:35THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BY ELIZABETH CADY STANTON AND HER
00:24:40APPEAL TO BROADEN THE PARAMETERS
00:24:43OF THE DECLARATION.
00:24:47IN DISCUSSING THE RIGHTS OF WOMAN.
00:24:51WE ARE TO CONSIDER FIRST WHAT
00:24:54BELONGS TO HER AS AN INDIVIDUAL
00:24:56IN A WORLD OF HER OWN.
00:24:58THE ARBITER OF HER OWN DESTINY,
00:25:02AN IMAGINARY ROBINSON CRUSOE
00:25:04WITH HER WOMAN FRIDAY ON A SOLITARY ISLAND.
00:25:08HER RIGHTS UNDER SUCH
00:25:12CIRCUMSTANCES ARE TO USE ALL HER
00:25:14FACULTIES FOR HER OWN SAFETY AND
00:25:19HAPPINESS.
00:25:21SECONDLY, IF WE CONSIDER HER AS
00:25:23A CITIZEN, AS A MEMBER OF A
00:25:25GREAT NATION, SHE MUST HAVE THE
00:25:29SAME RIGHTS AS ALL OTHER MEMBERS.
00:25:33THIRDLY, VIEWED AS THAT WOMAN AN
00:25:36EQUAL FACTOR IN CIVILIZATION,
00:25:40HER RIGHTS AND DUTIES ARE STILL THE SAME.
00:25:43INDIVIDUAL HAPPINESS AND DEVELOPMENT.
00:25:47THE STRONGEST REASON WHY WE ASK
00:25:50FOR WOMEN A VOICE, A VOICE IN
00:25:53THE GOVERNMENT UNDER WHICH SHE
00:25:55LIVES IN THE RELIGION. SHE IS ASKED TO BELIEVE.
00:26:01EQUALITY AND SOCIAL LIFE WHERE
00:26:01SHE IS THE SHE CHIEF FACTOR, A
00:26:05PLACE IN THE TRADES AND
00:26:08PROFESSIONS WHERE SHE MAY EARN
00:26:10HER BREAD IS BECAUSE OF HER
00:26:14BIRTHRIGHT TO SELF SOVEREIGNTY.
00:26:16BECAUSE AS AN INDIVIDUAL WILL,
00:26:19SHE MUST RELY ON HERSELF.
00:26:23NO MATTER HOW MUCH WOMEN PREFER
00:26:26TO BE PROTECTED AND SUPPORTED,
00:26:29NO MATTER HOW MUCH MEN DESIRE TO
00:26:31HAVE THEM DO SO, THEY MUST MAKE
00:26:35THE VOYAGE OF LIFE ALONE.
00:26:39AND FOR SAFETY IN AN EMERGENCY
00:26:42SEA, THEY MUST KNOW SOMETHING OF
00:26:45THE LAWS OF NAVIGATION TO GUIDE
00:26:49HER OWN CRAFT. WE MUST BE CERTAIN.
00:26:51WE MUST BE CAPTAIN, PILOT AND
00:26:55ENGINEER WITH CHART AND COMPASS
00:26:58TO STAND AT THE WHEEL TO MATCH
00:27:00THE WIND AND WAVES AND KNOW WHEN
00:27:02TO TAKE IN THE SAIL. IT MATTERS NOT WHETHER THE
00:27:08SOLITARY VOYAGER IS MANNED OR
00:27:14WOMAN.
00:27:19JOHN, YOU. YOU.
00:27:22YOU MENTIONED LINCOLN'S INTERPRETATION.
00:27:24YOU READ AN EARLY VERSION. AND OF COURSE, HE REACHES HIS
00:27:28OWN RHETORICAL APOGEE AND MAYBE
00:27:32THE AN EXTRAORDINARY RESURRECTION OF THE MEANING OF
00:27:35THE DECLARATION AT GETTYSBURG,
00:27:37WHERE YOU'VE SPOKEN NOT QUITE AS
00:27:40MEMORABLY, BUT YES, LESS LONGER,
00:27:45THOUGH. MUCH LONGER. MUCH LONGER. SO HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THE
00:27:49AMERICAN GOSPEL, IN YOUR VIEW?
00:27:51WELL, WHAT'S STRIKING IS WHAT MISS BURSON READS IS THE
00:27:57INTELLECTUAL INSIGHT. YOU NOTICE THAT ABOUT THE
00:27:59HALFWAY MARK IS THE SOVEREIGNTY
00:28:01OF SELF.
00:28:03IT'S AN ECHO OF WHAT STEPHEN
00:28:07READ. WE ARE CREATED EQUAL.
00:28:10THERE IS A SOVEREIGNTY.
00:28:12THERE IS A INHERENT DIGNITY TO
00:28:15THE HUMAN SOUL.
00:28:17AND THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS
00:28:20EXPERIMENT, WHICH IS UNDER SUCH
00:28:22STRESS AT THE MOMENT,
00:28:24ELECTIVELY, WE'VE CHOSEN 49.9%
00:28:27OF US HAVE CHOSEN TO DO THIS.
00:28:33THE EXPERIMENT WAS CREATED TO
00:28:38FULFILL WHAT HAD BEGUN WITH MAGNA CARTA.
00:28:41IT UNFOLDED THROUGH THE GLORIOUS REVOLUTION.
00:28:45THIS IDEA THAT, IN FACT, WE WERE
00:28:49CREATED EQUAL BEFORE THE BAR OF THE LAW, THE BAR OF HISTORY AND
00:28:52THE BAR OF GOD AND EVERY MOMENT
00:28:56THAT WE CELEBRATE IS A MOMENT
00:29:00WHERE WE HAVE MORE FULLY LIVED THAT OUT.
00:29:03AND EVERY MOMENT THAT WE ARE SHY
00:29:07ABOUT AND I WOULD ARGUE ASHAMED
00:29:11OF, IS ONE WHEN WE HAVE IT AGAIN, I'M A SOUTHERNER.
00:29:14AND SO IF EVERYBODY OF MY
00:29:18GENERATION WHO THINKS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE PETTUS BRIDGE
00:29:20WITH JOHN LEWIS INSTEAD OF AT THE FOOT OF THE BRIDGE WITH THE
00:29:24TROOPERS, IF EVERYBODY WHO THINKS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ON
00:29:27THAT BRIDGE, NOBODY WOULD HAVE
00:29:28HAD TO BE ON THE BRIDGE RIGHT.
00:29:32AND SO I'M NOT THE POINT OF THIS
00:29:36BOOK. THE POINT OF THIS ARGUMENT IS NOT FOR US TO FEEL SUPERIOR TO
00:29:39THE PAST. QUITE THE OPPOSITE. I THINK WE SHOULD DRAW SOME
00:29:45INSPIRATION FROM THE FACT THAT
00:29:45THEY GOT SO MUCH WRONG RIGHT.
00:29:49AND SO IT'S SORT OF A I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S A RELIEF, BUT IT KIND OF IS.
00:29:53IT MEANS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET EVERYTHING RIGHT.
00:29:57WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT ONE BIG THING RIGHT.
00:30:00ABRAHAM LINCOLN, WHAT, INTO 63,
00:30:0564 WAS OPEN TO SENDING BLACK
00:30:10PEOPLE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. HE WAS NOT A RACIAL EGALITARIAN
00:30:14DURING THE WAR. HOLZER'S GOING TO GO CRAZY HERE
00:30:17IN A MINUTE. BUT HE WAS IT. HE WAS ANTI SLAVERY, BUT HE WAS
00:30:23NOT A RACIAL EGALITARIAN.
00:30:25AND THAT'S LINCOLN.
00:30:29AND HE WAS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG.
00:30:33SO LET'S LEARN FROM IT. LET'S NOT DISMISS HIM.
00:30:35LET'S NOT BE CONDESCENDING.
00:30:38FATHERS, LAISSEZ WE'RE USED TO
00:30:40SAY SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS IN RETROSPECT IS EASY. ALSO CHEAP.
00:30:44BUT LET'S LISTEN TO THESE FOLKS.
00:30:46LISTEN TO ELIZABETH CADY STANTON
00:30:51AND PERHAPS THE GREATEST 2.5
00:30:53MINUTES IN AMERICAN POLITICAL RHETORIC.
00:30:56AND STEPHEN, YOU'VE YOU'VE PERFORMED THESE WORDS AT
00:31:00GETTYSBURG MANY TIMES.
00:31:02SO THESE ARE THE WORDS FROM
00:31:05NOVEMBER 19TH, 1863.
00:31:12FOURSCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO,
00:31:15OUR FATHERS BROUGHT FORTH ON THIS CONTINENT A NEW NATION
00:31:19CONCEIVED IN LIBERTY AND
00:31:21DEDICATED TO THE PROPOSITION
00:31:23THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
00:31:29NOW WE ARE ENGAGED IN A GREAT
00:31:31CIVIL WAR, TESTING WHETHER THAT
00:31:34NATION OR ANY NATION SO
00:31:36CONCEIVED AND SO DEDICATE AND
00:31:39CAN LONG ENDURE. WE ALL KNOW THAT ON THE GREAT
00:31:44BATTLEFIELD OF THAT WAR, WE HAVE
00:31:46COME TO DEDICATE A PORTION OF
00:31:49THAT FIELD AS A FINAL RESTING
00:31:53PLACE FOR THOSE WHO HERE GAVE
00:31:55THEIR LIVES THAT THAT NATION MIGHT LIVE.
00:31:59IT IS ALL TOGETHER, FITTING AND
00:32:01PROPER THAT WE SHOULD DO THIS.
00:32:05BUT IN A LARGE SENSE, WE CANNOT
00:32:11DEDICATE, WE CANNOT CONSECRATE,
00:32:16WE CANNOT HALLOW THIS GROUND.
00:32:19THE BRAVE MEN LIVING AND DEAD
00:32:24WHO STRUGGLED HERE HAVE CANCER, CREATED IT FAR ABOVE OUR POOR
00:32:27POWER TO ADD OR DETRACT.
00:32:30THE WORLD WILL LITTLE NOTE NOR
00:32:32LONG REMEMBER WHAT WE SAY HERE,
00:32:34BUT IT CAN NEVER FORGET THAT
00:32:37WHAT THEY DID HERE.
00:32:42IT IS FOR US THE LIVING RATHER
00:32:46TO BE DEDICATED HERE TO THE UNFINISHED WORK WHICH THEY WHO
00:32:50FOUGHT HERE HAVE THUS FAR SO NOBLY ADVANCE.
00:32:53IT IS RATHER FOR US TO BE HERE
00:32:55DEDICATED TO THE GREAT TASK
00:32:58REMAINING BEFORE US, THAT FROM
00:33:00THESE HONORED DEAD, WE TAKE
00:33:02INCREASED DEVOTION TO THAT CAUSE FOR WHICH THEY GAVE THE LAST
00:33:07FULL MEASURE OF DEVOTION THAT WE
00:33:10HERE HIGHLY RESOLVED, THAT THESE
00:33:12DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN
00:33:15VAIN, THAT THIS NATION, UNDER GOD, SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF
00:33:19FREEDOM AND THAT GOVERNANCE MEN
00:33:22OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE SHALL NOT PERISH
00:33:28FROM THE EARTH.
00:33:39JOHN, LET'S LET'S TACKLE AN
00:33:42ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN VEXING AND
00:33:43DIVIDING US FOR 230 YEARS, AND
00:33:49THAT'S IMMIGRATION.
00:33:51THE VERY IDEA OF WELCOMING
00:33:56CATHOLICS, EASTERN EUROPEANS, ASIANS, LATINOS, --, AFRICANS,
00:33:59MIDDLE EASTERNERS HAS
00:34:03CONSISTENTLY AROUSED OPPOSITION,
00:34:05EVEN HATRED.
00:34:07AND YET ARRIVALS FROM OVERSEAS
00:34:13INEVITABLY ENLARGE AND ENHANCE
00:34:15THE COUNTRY.
00:34:19SOME OF THE SOME OF THE COMMENTS
00:34:21I DON'T THINK EVERYONE WILL KNOW THIS.
00:34:25SIEM RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES.
00:34:25I MEAN, AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON
00:34:29SINCE JOHN ADAMS. YEAH.
00:34:33THE ALIEN AND SEDITION ACTS.
00:34:35AND THIS AGAIN IS SOMETHING THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENED
00:34:38BEFORE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW. JUST BECAUSE IT'S WORKED OUT
00:34:42BEFORE DOES NOT MEAN IT'S GOING TO WORK OUT NOW.
00:34:45BUT HAROLD IS EXACTLY RIGHT. WE SHOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
00:34:48THIS IS A PERENNIAL ILL
00:34:50INSTINCT, AND IT'S BASED NOT ON HOPE, BUT ON FEAR.
00:34:54AND EDMUND BURKE HAS GREAT LINE
00:34:58ABOUT THERE IS NO MORE UNREAD
00:35:01REASONING, EMOTION THEN FEAR. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN
00:35:05YOU'RE BACK AS AGAINST THE WALL, YOU'RE GOING TO LASH OUT.
00:35:09AND WHEN YOU'RE TOLD THAT THE
00:35:13PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING YOU AGAINST THE WALL ARE IMMIGRANTS,
00:35:17YOU'RE GOING TO LASH OUT AT THEM. WHETHER THE FACTS BACK THAT UP
00:35:21OR NOT.
00:35:23AND YOU HAD THIS IN THE 19TH
00:35:26CENTURY, THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT.
00:35:29YOU HAD THE.
00:35:32EDITORS OF HARPER'S AND THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY.
00:35:35IT WAS ENTIRELY RESPECTABLE. MADISON GRANT, YOU KNOW, THE
00:35:40ANGLOS, SAXON MYTHOLOGY, WHICH
00:35:45GAVE WAY TO ANGLO-SAXON RACIAL
00:35:47THEORIES, FALSE THEORIES OF ANGLO-SAXON RACIAL SUPERIORITY.
00:35:53AND IT CULMINATED REALLY UNTIL NOW.
00:35:57I THINK IN 1924. SO EXACTLY 100 YEARS AGO, THE
00:36:01MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION ACT YOU CAN IMAGINE PASSED IN 1924.
00:36:06THOSE QUOTAS WERE STILL IN PLACE, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE
00:36:09DEPARTMENT DECIDED TO FOLLOW WHEN THE ROOSEVELT
00:36:13ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE WE MUST SPEAK TRUTH. WHEN THE ROOSEVELT
00:36:17ADMINISTRATION DID NOT DO ENOUGH TO ACCEPT REFUGEES FROM NAZI
00:36:20GERMANY, FULL STOP.
00:36:22AGAIN, FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT,
00:36:25SAVIOR OF DEMOCRATIC CAPITALISM,
00:36:28RESCUER OF LIBERTY WITH WINSTON
00:36:31CHURCHILL, GOT THAT WRONG.
00:36:35WHY? BECAUSE HE WAS A HUMAN BEING.
00:36:40SO 100 YEARS AGO, THE KU KLUX
00:36:42KLAN WAS RE FOUNDED AT STONE
00:36:45MOUNTAIN, GEORGIA, NOT FAR FROM
00:36:47WHERE I GREW UP TO TWO 6 MILLION
00:36:49AMERICANS JOINED THE KLAN 100 YEARS AGO.
00:36:51THERE WERE FIVE GOVERNORS WHO WERE MEMBERS OF THE KLAN.
00:36:55100 YEARS AGO, TEXAS AND
00:36:57GEORGIA, BUT ALSO INDIA AND
00:37:00COLORADO AND OREGON HAD KLAN
00:37:04GOVERNORS 100 YEARS AGO. AND AS I LOOK AROUND THE ROOM, I
00:37:06THINK SOME OF YOU ARE LIKE ME. 100 YEARS USED TO SEEM LIKE A
00:37:10LONG TIME.
00:37:14IT'S NOT QUITE AS LONG NOW, IS IT?
00:37:17THIS WAS 20 MINUTES AGO, AND IT
00:37:20WAS A CENTRAL PART OF THE GREAT SOCIETY.
00:37:23WHEN LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED THE
00:37:25IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION
00:37:29ACT OF 1965, IT FINALLY UNDID
00:37:34THAT 1924 ACT.
00:37:36SO NOT BEFORE WE KNEW THAT YOU
00:37:38HAD ISSUED AN ANTHOLOGY OF YOUR
00:37:41OWN OF YOUR FAVORITE POETRY.
00:37:42WE ASKED YOU TO READ OUR OUR
00:37:46ASPIRATIONAL IMMIGRATION MOMENT IN AMERICA.
00:37:49AND THAT IS, OF COURSE, EMMA LAZARUS POEM, THE NEW COLOSSUS,
00:37:54WHICH SUPPOSED TO INDICATE THAT WE WERE LIGHTING THE WAY FOR NEW
00:37:59AMERICANS.
00:38:01THIS WAS WRITTEN IN 1883.
00:38:05IT'S CALLED THE NEW COLOSSUS.
00:38:09NOT LIKE THE BRAZEN GIANT OF
00:38:12GREAT FAME WITH CONQUERING LIMBS
00:38:16ASTRIDE FROM LAND TO LAND.
00:38:18HERE AT OUR SEA WAS SUNSET GATES
00:38:22SHALL STAND A MIGHTY WOMAN WITH
00:38:26A TORCH WHOSE FLAME IS THE
00:38:29IMPRISONED LIGHT NING.
00:38:32AND HER NAME MOTHER OF EXILES
00:38:36FROM HER BEACON HAND GLOWS
00:38:40WORLDWIDE, WELCOME HER MILD EYES, COMMAND THE AIR BRIDGED
00:38:45HARBOR THAT TWIN CITIES FRAME.
00:38:49KEEP ANCIENT LANDS YOUR STORY.
00:38:52POMP CRIES.
00:38:54SHE WAS SILENT LIPS.
00:38:58GIVE ME YOUR TIRED YOUR POOR,
00:39:02YOUR HUDDLED MASSES YEARNING TO
00:39:06BREATHE FREE.
00:39:10THE WRETCHED REFUSE OF YOUR
00:39:12TEEMING SHORE.
00:39:14SEND THESE THE HOMELESS TEMPEST
00:39:20TOSSED TO ME.
00:39:24I LIFT MY LAMP BESIDE THE GOLDEN
00:39:30DOOR.
00:39:48JOHN FDR GAVE HIS, AS YOU KNOW,
00:39:51GAVE HIS FIRST FIRESIDE CHAT IN
00:39:54THIS VERY BUILDING THE DAY AFTER
00:39:58HIS ELECTION IN 1932, WHEN HIS
00:40:01REPUBLICAN OPPONENT DID NOT CONCEDE.
00:40:03IT MUST IT MUST BE A THING NOT TO CONCEAL.
00:40:07IT JUST SHOT BY THAT.
00:40:11WELL, HE WON EIGHT STATES OVER. SO. YEAH.
00:40:15TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
00:40:17THIS EXTRAORDINARY MARRIAGE OF
00:40:22ELOQUENCE AND VOICE AND
00:40:24TECHNOLOGY THAT FDR JUST SEEMED
00:40:26TO BE POISED TO TAKE THE FULLEST
00:40:30ADVANTAGE OF IT. EXACTLY. AT EXACTLY THE RIGHT TIME.
00:40:32GREAT LEADERS MASTER THE MEANS
00:40:35OF COMMUNICATION OF THEIR TIME.
00:40:37AND SO JEFFERSON AND LINCOLN
00:40:39WERE MARVELOUS WRITERS, IS WHAT
00:40:42YOU HEARD STEPHEN READ IN BOTH
00:40:44THOSE CASES, AS WERE WRITTEN
00:40:46ALMOST FOR THE EAR. RIGHT.
00:40:48SO THEY EXPECTED MORE PEOPLE TO
00:40:51READ THEM AND PERHAPS READ THEM
00:40:54ALOUD THAN WERE EVER GOING TO
00:40:56HEAR IT, FOR ALL THE OBVIOUS REASONS.
00:41:00WHAT PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT SAW,
00:41:02WHICH IS WHAT WINSTON CHURCHILL
00:41:05SAW, AND TRAGICALLY ALSO WHAT
00:41:07LEADERS, FASCIST LEADERS ALSO
00:41:09REALIZED WAS THAT RADIO WAS, IF
00:41:13YOU WILL, THE IPHONE OF THE ERA.
00:41:17RIGHT. SPEED IS A RELATIVE THING.
00:41:19AND SO IF YOU WERE THINK ABOUT
00:41:23IT, IF YOU WERE AN AMERICAN
00:41:24HOUSEHOLD OR UNTIL 1925 OR SO,
00:41:28YOU TOTALLY CONTROL THE FLOW OF
00:41:32INFORMATION AND CULTURE INTO YOUR HOUSE.
00:41:34YOU DECIDED WHAT MAGAZINES TO SUBSCRIBE TO, WHAT NEWSPAPERS TO
00:41:38READ, WHERE TO GO TO CHURCH,
00:41:40WHAT BOOKS TO CHECK OUT OF THE LIBRARY.
00:41:44SUDDENLY YOU BUY THIS MACHINE
00:41:46AND IT GOES IN THE PARLOR AND THERE'S PEOPLE ON THE COASTS.
00:41:52HOLLYWOOD IN NEW YORK, WHAT THEY THINK SUDDENLY MATTERS BECAUSE
00:41:55IT COMES INTO YOUR HOUSE.
00:41:59ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE WHERE WE ARE IS BECAUSE THAT PHONE IS
00:42:05NEXT TO PEOPLE'S HEARTS. IT'S IN YOUR POCKET.
00:42:08IT'S WITH YOU. IT'S DISTORTING IN THAT WAY.
00:42:12THERE'S AN INTIMACY TO THE
00:42:14MECHANICS OF DIVISION.
00:42:16AND SO EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT
00:42:20THRASHING YOURSELF, YOU FEEL YOU
00:42:22ARE BECAUSE THIS IT COMES TO YOU.
00:42:26WHAT PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT, THOUGH, DID IS HE USED TECHNOLOGY FOR THE GOOD HISTORY.
00:42:30I THINK I NEVER I THINK HE NEVER
00:42:33GOT OVER WANTING TO BE VINDICATE PEABODY, THE HEADMASTER OF
00:42:38GROTON, WHO ALWAYS SAID HE LOVED
00:42:43PLAYING THE HEADMASTER. RIGHT.
00:42:45AND HE LOVED BEING AN ACTOR.
00:42:47HE ONCE SAID TO ORSON WELLES, YOU KNOW, ORSON, YOU AND I ARE
00:42:50THE TWO BEST ACTORS IN AMERICA. YEAH.
00:42:55AND HE WATCHED HIMSELF IN A NEWSREEL ONCE AND SAID, THAT WAS
00:42:57THE GARBO IN ME. A BIT OF A REACH THERE.
00:43:02BUT. BUT THAT VOICE, AS YOU KNOW, THE
00:43:05FAMOUS STORY OF WALKING DOWN THE
00:43:09STREET STREETS IN CHICAGO FROM WINDOW TO WINDOW.
00:43:12AND YOU COULD HEAR THE WHOLE SPEECH BECAUSE EVERY HOUSE WAS
00:43:16LISTENING TO IT. SAUL BELLOW WRITES ABOUT THAT AND HE GOT OUT OF A CAR BECAUSE
00:43:20OF THE TRAFFIC JAM. AND NEVER MISSED THE SPEECH BECAUSE IT WAS SUMMER AND PEOPLE
00:43:24HAD THEIR WINDOWS ROLLED DOWN.
00:43:26SO CONSIDER THE ENORMOUS IMPACT
00:43:29AND THE UNIVERSAL AUDIENCE AS WE
00:43:34LISTENED TO STEPHEN LANG READING, ONE OF THE MOST
00:43:38CONSEQUENTIAL OF THE FIRESIDE CHATS, THE ONE THAT FDR
00:43:42DELIVERED IN TWO DAYS AFTER
00:43:44GERMANY ATTACKED POLAND.
00:43:47SO THIS IS SEPTEMBER 3RD, 1939.
00:43:52TONIGHT, MY SINGLE DUTY IS TO
00:43:54SPEAK TO THE WHOLE OF AMERICA.
00:43:58UNTIL 430 THIS MORNING, I HAD
00:44:01HOPE AGAINST HOPE THAT SOME MIRACLE WOULD PREVENT THE
00:44:05DEVIL'S STATING WAR IN EUROPE
00:44:07AND BRING TO AN END THE INVASION
00:44:10OF POLAND BY GERMANY FOR FOUR
00:44:13LONG YEARS, A SUCCESSION OF
00:44:16ACTUAL WARS AND CONCERT AND
00:44:18CRISES HAVE SHAKEN THE ENTIRE
00:44:20WORLD AND HAVE THREATENED IN
00:44:23EACH CASE TO BRING ON THE GIGANTIC CONFLICT WHICH IS TODAY
00:44:29UNHAPPILY, IN FACT, IT IS RIGHT
00:44:31THAT I SHOULD RECALL TO YOUR
00:44:33MINDS THE CONSISTING AND AT
00:44:36TIMES SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS OF YOUR
00:44:38GOVERNMENT IN THESE CRISES TO
00:44:40THROW THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE
00:44:43UNITED STATES INTO THE CAUSE OF
00:44:46PEACE, IN SPITE OF SPREADING
00:44:49WARS, I THINK THAT WE HAVE EVERY
00:44:51RIGHT AND EVERY REASON TO
00:44:53MAINTAIN AS A NATIONAL POLICY
00:44:56THE FUNDAMENTAL MORAL BLATTY'S
00:44:58THE TEACHINGS OF RELIGION, THE
00:45:02CONTINUAL ATION OF EFFORTS TO RESTORE PEACE.
00:45:05BECAUSE SOMEDAY, THOUGH, THE
00:45:07TIME MAY BE DISTANT, WE CAN BE
00:45:09OF EVEN GREATER HELP TO A
00:45:13CRIPPLED HUMANITY. YOU MUST MASTER AT THE OUTSET A
00:45:19SIMPLE BUT UNALTERABLE FACT IN
00:45:21MODERN FOREIGN RELATIONS BETWEEN
00:45:25NATIONS, WHEN PEACE HAS BEEN
00:45:27BROKEN ANYWHERE, THE PEACE OF
00:45:29ALL COUNTRIES, EVERYWHERE IS IN
00:45:35DANGER.
00:45:42SO THEN THERE'S THE WOMAN OFTEN
00:45:46DESCRIBED AS FDR, AS EYES AND EARS.
00:45:49ALTHOUGH I THINK THAT IN A SENSE
00:45:51IS DENYING HER OWN VOICE.
00:45:55AND OF COURSE, I MEAN, ELEANOR,
00:45:57JOHN, TALK ABOUT HER EMERGENCE
00:46:01IN YOUR BOOK AND INTO THE
00:46:03VOCABULARY OF DEMOC RACY.
00:46:07WELL, IT BEGINS IN TRAGEDY, RIGHT? AND SHE HAD AN UNIMAGINABLY
00:46:11HORRIBLE CHILDHOOD. RIGHT. HER FATHER WAS A TERRIBLE
00:46:15ALCOHOLIC, WROTE INTO A TREE
00:46:17RIGHT ON A HORSE AND DIED THAT
00:46:23WAY.
00:46:23AND I THINK IN ONE OF THE WORST
00:46:28ARGUABLY THE WORST DOMESTIC
00:46:30MOMENT I KNOW ABOUT IN WHITE
00:46:32HOUSE HISTORY WAS WHEN MRS. ROOSEVELT WOULD GET ANGRY WITH
00:46:36PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT FOR HAVING TOO LONG A COCKTAIL HOUR.
00:46:38HE WOULD SAY, IT'S NOT MY SIDE OF THE FAMILY WITH A DRINKING PROBLEM.
00:46:42YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE PRETTY ROUGH, RIGHT?
00:46:44BUT OUT OF THAT MARITAL, OUT OF
00:46:48OUT OF MARITAL TRAGEDY IN 1918,
00:46:52THE DISCOVERY OF FDR, HIS AFFAIR
00:46:57WITH ELEANOR'S FORMER SOCIAL SECRETARY, HE WAS ON HIS WAY
00:47:01BACK. HE GOT DOUBLE, DOUBLE PNEUMONIA
00:47:04ON HIS WAY BACK FROM A VISIT TO
00:47:07WORLD WAR ONE, THE GREAT WAR.
00:47:09MRS. ROOSEVELT FOUND LOVE
00:47:11LETTERS AND SHE WROTE HONESTLY
00:47:15AND WONDERFULLY.
00:47:17THE BOTTOM FELL OUT OF MY OWN
00:47:20PARTICULAR WORLD, AND I FACED
00:47:23MYSELF AND MY SURROUNDINGS, HONESTLY, FOR THE FIRST TIME.
00:47:29AND OUT OF RATHER BEING BROKEN
00:47:31DOWN BY TRAGEDY. SHE MASTERED IT.
00:47:35AND AS HEMINGWAY WOULD SAY, SHE BECAME STRONGER AT THE BROKEN
00:47:40PLACES.
00:47:41SO I, AFTER FDR, HIS DEATH AS
00:47:45I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, ELEANOR, BECAME CHAIR OF THE UN
00:47:49COMMISSION THAT DRAFTED THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN
00:47:53RIGHTS, WHICH SOME DAY SOME CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
00:47:56WILL ADOPT FORMALLY, I SUPPOSE.
00:47:59LET'S HEAR HER DEFENSE OF THOSE
00:48:03RIGHTS. AND IT SEEMS AS IF THEY'VE NEVER NEEDED DEFENDING MORE.
00:48:07THIS IS A SPEECH THAT ELEANOR
00:48:09GAVE AT THE SORBONNE IN PARIS IN
00:48:121948, AND ELLEN BURSTYN, THE
00:48:16UNITED NATIONS HAS MADE IT CLEAR
00:48:21THAT IT INTENDS TO UPHOLD HUMAN
00:48:23RIGHTS AND TO PROTECT THE
00:48:27DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN
00:48:29PERSONALITY, TO REAFFIRM FAITH
00:48:31IN FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS, IN
00:48:34THE DIGNITY AND WORTH OF THE
00:48:37HUMAN PERSON, IN THE EQUAL
00:48:38RIGHTS OF MEN AND WOMEN, AND OF
00:48:43NATIONS, LARGE AND SMALL, AND TO
00:48:47PROMOTE SOCIAL PROGRESS.
00:48:49WE MUST NOT BE CONFUSED ABOUT
00:48:52WHAT FREEDOM IS.
00:48:54BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS ARE SIMPLE
00:48:58AND EASILY UNDERSTOOD.
00:49:01FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND A FREE
00:49:05PRESS, FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND
00:49:09ASSEMBLY.
00:49:09THE RIGHT OF MEN TO BE SECURE IN
00:49:13THEIR HOMES AND FREE FROM UNDER
00:49:18REASONABLE SEARCH AND SEIZURE
00:49:21AND FROM ARBITRARY ARREST AND
00:49:25PUNISHMENT. SOMETIMES THE PROCESSES OF
00:49:30DEMOCRACY ARE SLOW, AND I HAVE
00:49:34KNOWN SOME OF OUR LEADERS TO SAY
00:49:36THAT A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR LEADERSHIP WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE
00:49:41ENDS DESIRED IN A SHORTER TIME
00:49:43THAN IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THE
00:49:46DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND THE SLOW
00:49:50FORMATION OF PUBLIC OPINION.
00:49:52BUT THERE IS NO WAY OF ENSURING
00:49:56THAT A DICTATORSHIP SHIP WILL REMAIN.
00:50:00BUT NETHERLANDS OR THAT POWER
00:50:05ONCE IN THE HANDS OF A FEW, WILL
00:50:07BE RETURNED TO THE PEOPLE
00:50:11WITHOUT STRUGGLE.
00:50:13THIS, WE HAVE LEARNED BY EXPERIENCE.
00:50:19WE ACCEPT THE SLOW PROCESSES OF
00:50:23DEMOCRACY. SEE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
00:50:26SHORTCUTS COMPROMISE PRINCIPLES
00:50:28ON WHICH NO COMPROMISE IS
00:50:32POSSIBLE IN A JUST SOCIETY.
00:50:47JOHN IN THE ROOSEVELT ERA, A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE COME TO THE
00:50:50PERIOD WHEN PRESIDENTS HAVE
00:50:53PROFESSIONAL WRITERS IS AT THEIR
00:50:56BECK AND CALL TO HELP THEM WITH
00:50:58THEIR GREAT WORDS.
00:51:00TED SORENSEN, ONE OF THE GREATEST OF THE 20TH CENTURY
00:51:04PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH WRITERS,
00:51:08EVEN THEIR OWN CORRESPONDENCE IS OFTEN HANDLED BY BY OTHERS.
00:51:10SO HOW DO WE CREDIT PRESIDENTIAL
00:51:15UTTERANCES IN THE AGE OF THE GREAT SPEECHWRITERS?
00:51:17I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT THERE.
00:51:19IF THEY UTTER IT, IT'S THEIRS. RIGHT?
00:51:24I A FRIEND WHO ARGUES THE
00:51:25HARDEST THING ON PLANET EARTH IS
00:51:29TO GET ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THINK ABOUT IT.
00:51:3345 PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT OUT OF
00:51:34ALL THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ON
00:51:39EARTH IN THE UNITED STATES OF
00:51:41AMERICA SINCE 1789, 45, AND MY
00:51:46SENSE IS, I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S
00:51:50THERE'S ALWAYS ONE EXCEPTION. SO WE'LL WE'LL LEAVE THAT.
00:51:54BUT I, I THINK WHEN.
00:51:59PRESIDENTS DO COMMISSION NEED
00:52:02PEOPLE TO HELP THEM CRAFT A MESSAGE.
00:52:07BUT IT'S, I THINK ALMOST AND IN
00:52:10SOME WAYS IT'S A MECHANICAL
00:52:14MANIFESTATION OF THE VALUES AND VISION THAT THAT PERSON HAS
00:52:18BROUGHT TO THE PINNACLE OF POWER. RIGHT.
00:52:21AND SO I MEAN, MAYBE IF YOU JUST START RUNNING IN SOMEONE'S
00:52:24WRITING FOR YOU AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY. BUT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT HAD
00:52:28PLENTY TO SAY. I MEAN, HERE'S SO THIS SPEECH
00:52:31BACK HERE, THE 1941 STATE OF THE
00:52:37UNION. HARRY HOPKINS WAS LISTENING TO
00:52:41FDR READ THE DRAFT AND TO GO TO
00:52:45WHAT THIS PERSON WAS READING,
00:52:47WHICH IS A SEQUENTIAL CHAPTER. THE FIRST IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH
00:52:51AND EXPRESSION EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
00:52:54THE SECOND, FREEDOM OF EVERY PHRASE OF EVERY PERSON TO WORSHIP GOD IN HIS OWN WAY
00:52:57EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. HARRY HOPKINS SAYS, YOU KNOW,
00:53:00MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD CUT THAT EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE
00:53:04NOBODY GIVES A -- WHAT HAPPENS IN JAVA.
00:53:07AND FDR TURNED TO HIM.
00:53:09AND IN A WAY THAT PLAYING OFF
00:53:12THE POINT THAT STEPHEN JUST READ
00:53:14AND SAID, WELL, HARRY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BECAUSE THE
00:53:17WORLD'S GETTING SO SMALL NOW.
00:53:21SO ROOSEVELT KNEW WHAT HE WANTED TO SAY. DID HE HAVE HELP?
00:53:25AND HOW HE SAID IT? ABSOLUTELY.
00:53:29AND AND NOT QUITE IN TANDEM WITH
00:53:34WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
00:53:34WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A FIRESIDE
00:53:38CHAT NOW THAT UNLIKE THE ONE WE HEARD BEFORE, WHICH WAS WRITTEN
00:53:41BY SEVERAL PEOPLE, INCLUDING
00:53:43ROBERT EMMOTT, SHERWOOD, THIS
00:53:47FIRESIDE CHAT WAS FDR, AS
00:53:51OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. IT'S LIKE A NIGHTTIME TWEET, I
00:53:55GUESS IN A WAY A LITTLE MORE.
00:53:57YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU, BUT I GOT
00:54:01TO STOP YOU THERE. HA HA. MEANING AN INFORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT
00:54:07OF ENORMOUSLY CONSEQUENTIAL POLICY. THAT'S ALL. I MEAN, I DON'T THAT'S A LONG
00:54:11WAY AROUND. YEAH. AHEAD. WE TOOK THE LONG WAY. SO HERE HE.
00:54:16THIS IS THE WAY FDR TOLD AMERICA
00:54:18THAT THERE HAD BEEN AN INVASION
00:54:20OF THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT ON JUNE 6TH, 1944.
00:54:24HE DID IT IN A FIRESIDE CHAT, AND HE DID IT BY WRITING IT
00:54:28HIMSELF.
00:54:29HE WROTE A PRAYER.
00:54:33AND IN AN AGE IN WHICH OUR
00:54:35GOVERNMENT LEADERS ARE INVOKING
00:54:39GOD AS THE ANGEL OF HOLY WAR,
00:54:44HERE IS FDR ASKING GOD TO BLESS
00:54:48PEOPLE IN DANGER, IN A FIGHT FOR FREEDOM AND JUST STRIKES ME AS
00:54:51YOU MAY, WHEN TWO CORINTHIANS
00:54:53WALK INTO A BAR.
00:54:57SO FDR WROTE THIS PRAYER THE
00:55:00WEEKEND BEFORE IN THE SHADOW OF MONTICELLO.
00:55:04SO THERE'S A KIND OF A POETIC.
00:55:06HE WENT TO PAPA WATSON'S HOUSE, WHO WAS HIS ONE OF HIS
00:55:10ASSISTANTS WHO HAD A PLACE CALLED KENWOOD.
00:55:12IT'S STILL DOWN AT THE FOOT OF
00:55:14THE MOUNTAIN. JEFFERSON'S MOUNTAIN.
00:55:17HE USED THE BOOK OF COMMON
00:55:20PRAYER AT THE EPISCOPAL BOOK OF
00:55:22COMMON PRAYER AND THE KING JAMES BIBLE HE HAD AT HAND.
00:55:25BUT THAT WAS IT. SO THIS IS FDR IS D-DAY.
00:55:29PRAYER FROM JUNE 6TH, 1944.
00:55:35ALMIGHTY GOD, OUR SONS.
00:55:37PRIDE OF OUR NATION THIS DAY
00:55:40HAVE SET UPON A MIGHTY ENDEAVOR,
00:55:42A STRUGGLE TO PRESERVE OUR
00:55:46REPUBLIC, OUR RELIGION, AND OUR
00:55:50CIVILIZATION, AND TO SET FREE A
00:55:52SUFFERING HUMANITY TO LEAD THEM
00:55:56STRAIGHT AND TRUE, GIVE STRENGTH
00:55:58TO THEIR ARMS.
00:56:01STOUT TO THEIR HEARTS, STEAD AND
00:56:04FASTNESS IN THEIR FAITH.
00:56:07THEY WILL NEED THY BLESSINGS.
00:56:09THEIR ROAD WILL BE LONG AND HARD
00:56:12FOR THE ENEMY IS STRONG.
00:56:16HE MAY HURL BACK OUR FORCES.
00:56:18SUCCESS MAY NOT COME WITH
00:56:21RUSHING SPEED, BUT WE SHALL
00:56:24RETURN AGAIN AND AGAIN.
00:56:26AND WE KNOW THAT BY THAT GRACE
00:56:30AND BY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF OUR
00:56:32CAUSE, OUR SONS WILL TRIUMPH.
00:56:36THEY WILL BE SO TRIED BY NIGHT
00:56:39AND BY DAY WITHOUT REST UNTIL
00:56:43THE VICTORY IS WON.
00:56:45THE DARKNESS WILL BE RENT BY
00:56:48NOISE AND FLAME.
00:56:50MEN'S SOULS WILL BE SHAKEN WITH
00:56:53THE VIOLENCE OF WAR.
00:56:56FOR THESE MEN ARE LATELY DRAWN
00:56:58FROM THE WAYS OF PEACE.
00:57:00THEY FIGHT NOT FOR THE LUST OF
00:57:04CONQUEST. THEY FIGHT TO END CONQUEST.
00:57:07THEY FIGHT TO LIBERATE.
00:57:09THEY FIGHT TO LET JUSTICE ARISE
00:57:12AND TOLERATE AND SEND GOOD WILL.
00:57:15AMONG ALL THY PEOPLE.
00:57:17THEY YEARN. BUT FOR THE END OF BATTLE, FOR
00:57:21THEIR RETURN TO THE HAVEN OF HOME.
00:57:25SOME WILL NEVER RETURN.
00:57:27EMBRACE THESE FATHER AND RECEIVE
00:57:31THEM THY HEROIC SERVANTS INTO
00:57:34THEIR KINGDOM.
00:57:38AND FOR US AT HOME.
00:57:40FATHER, MOTHER, CHILDREN, WIVES,
00:57:44SISTERS AND BROTHERS OF BRAVE
00:57:46MEN OVER SEAS WHOSE THOUGHTS AND
00:57:50PRAYERS ARE EVER WITH THEM, HELP
00:57:53US, ALMIGHTY GOD, TO REDEDICATE
00:57:57OURSELVES IN RENEWED FAITH IN
00:58:00THE IN THIS HOUR OF GREAT SACRIFICE.
00:58:04GIVE US STRENGTH.
00:58:05LET OUR HEARTS BE STOUT.
00:58:09TO WAIT OUT THE LONG TRAVAIL TO
00:58:12BEAR SORROWS THAT MAY COME TO
00:58:16IMPART OUR COURAGE ONTO OUR SONS.
00:58:20WHERESOEVER THEY MAY BE, AND
00:58:23HELP US TO CONQUER.
00:58:25THEY ARE PUZZLES OF GREED AND
00:58:28RACIAL ARROGANCE IS LEAD US TO
00:58:33THE SAVING OF OUR COUNTRY AND
00:58:35WITH OUR SISTER NATIONS INTO A
00:58:39WORLD UNITY THAT WILL SPELL
00:58:41ASSURE PEACE.
00:58:43A PEACE INVOLVING HORRIBLE TO
00:58:46THE SCHEMING OF UNWORTHY MEN.
00:58:51AND TO PEACE THAT WILL LET ALL
00:58:53OF MEN LIVE IN FREEDOM, REAPING
00:58:55THE JUST REWARDS OF THEIR HONEST TOIL.
00:59:02THY WILL BE DONE ALMIGHTY GOD.
00:59:08AMEN.
00:59:13THAT WAS ACCORDING TO TIME
00:59:17MAGAZINE. THAT WEEK, 100 MILLION AMERICAN PRAYED THAT PRAYER, WHICH I
00:59:21THINK MAKES IT THE LARGEST MASS PRAYER IN HUMAN HISTORY. MM.
00:59:25IT IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE A WAR, A
00:59:31CONFLICT SACRIFICE IS BETTER,
00:59:35EXPLAINED OR TO REMEMBER THAT
00:59:37THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN LEADERS FELT THE RESPONSIBILITY, THE
00:59:41OBLIGATION TO EXPLAIN HUMAN CONFLICT AND SACRIFICE, AND THE
00:59:44HUMAN SIDE OF THIS, TOO, IS ON
00:59:49JUNE 5TH, AS EISENHOWER IS GIVEN
00:59:52THE ORDER OF A DAWN ON THE 4TH OF JUNE.
00:59:55OKAY, LET'S GO. HE'D HAD TO POSTPONE ONE DAY. THIS WAS THE LAST DAY THEY COULD
00:59:58DO IT BEFORE THE THIRD WEEK OF
01:00:01JUNE, WHEN A HURRICANE HIT THE CHANNEL.
01:00:04SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WOULD HAVE BEEN DISASTER.
01:00:07BUT BOTH ROOSEVELT AND CHURCHILL
01:00:10ALL SPENT THE EVENINGS ALONE
01:00:12WITH THEIR WIVES IN THE IN THE
01:00:14MIDST OF THIS MASSIVE DECISION,
01:00:18LARGE WHAT CHURCHILL CALLED THE LARGEST AND MOST COMPLICATED OPERATION EVER.
01:00:23AND ROOSEVELT, WHEN PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT AT ONE POINT TURNED TO
01:00:26MRS. ROOSEVELT THAT NIGHT AND
01:00:29SAID, I WONDER HOW LINCOLN WILL COME OUT.
01:00:33LINCOLN WAS A TREE FARMER AT HYDE PARK.
01:00:36LINCOLN CAME OUT FINE, BUT
01:00:40THAT'S WHAT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS ONE
01:00:44PERSON ON THAT BEACH AND BY
01:00:49EXTENSION, EVERYONE ON THE BEACH.
01:00:52LET'S LET'S COMBINE TWO OF THE
01:00:54THEMES THAT HAVE CONNECTED THE
01:00:56READINGS TONIGHT AND THE BOOK,
01:01:00HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN.
01:01:02FOR A CLOSING EXCERPT FROM
01:01:05SOMEONE WHO HAS SPOKEN HERE
01:01:07SEVERAL TIMES, ONCE FROM THIS STAGE AND ONCE UPSTAIRS.
01:01:11HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.
01:01:13IT'S IT'S POSSIBLE THAT NO FIRST
01:01:15LADY EVER GAVE A MORE
01:01:17CONSEQUENTIAL SPEECH AS FIRST
01:01:19LADY THAN SHE DID AT BEIJING AT
01:01:22THE GLOBAL HUMAN RIGHTS CONFERENCE.
01:01:26FOR WHATEVER COMMENTS SHE'S
01:01:27KNOWN FOR OR INDICTED FOR,
01:01:30SMALL, SMALL, I KNOWS THIS WAS
01:01:33TO ME HER HER SHINING AH,
01:01:35SHINING MOMENT. JOHN, DO YOU AGREE THAT IT WAS
01:01:39POLITICALLY COURAGEOUS FOR A FIRST LADY TO DO THAT? THIS IS 1995.
01:01:42SHE GOES TO CHINA TO TALK ABOUT
01:01:44THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS. SO, YEAH, RIGHT. IN CHINA.
01:01:48IN CHINA. YEAH. SO HERE'S HERE IS HILLARY
01:01:52CLINTON IN CHINA.
01:01:56IN NOVEMBER 1995.
01:01:56THIS IS TRULY A CELEBRATION, A
01:02:02CELEBRATION OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS WOMEN MAKE IN EVERY ASPECT OF
01:02:06LIFE IN THE HOME, ON THE JOB, IN
01:02:10THE COMMUNITY, AS MOTHERS,
01:02:14WIVES, SISTERS, DAUGHTERS,
01:02:16LEARNERS, WORKERS, CITIZENS AND LEADERS.
01:02:20IT IS ALSO A COMING TOGETHER
01:02:22MUCH THE WAY WOMEN COME TOGETHER EVERY DAY IN EVERY COUNTRY.
01:02:28WE COME TOGETHER IN FIELDS AND
01:02:30FACTORY AND VILLAGE MARKETS AND
01:02:33SUPERMARKETS IN LIVING ROOMS AND
01:02:37BOARDROOMS WHILE PLAYING WITH OUR CHILDREN AND IN THE PARK OR
01:02:40WASHING CLOTHES IN A RIVER, OR
01:02:44TAKING A BREAK AT THE OFFICE WATER COOLER.
01:02:46WE COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT
01:02:49OUR ASPIRATIONS AND CONCERNS.
01:02:53AND TIME AND AGAIN, OUR TALK
01:02:55TURNS TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES.
01:02:59HOWEVER DIFFERENT WE MAY APPEAR,
01:03:03THERE IS FAR MORE THAT UNITES US
01:03:05THAN DIVIDES US.
01:03:07WE SHARE OUR COMMON FUTURE, AND
01:03:11WE ARE HERE TO FIND COMMON
01:03:13GROUND SO THAT WE MAY HELP BRING
01:03:15NEW DIGNITY AND RESPECT TO WOMEN AND GIRLS.
01:03:19ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND IN SO DOING, BRING NEW
01:03:25STRENGTH AND STABILITY TO
01:03:27FAMILIES AS WELL.
01:03:29THERE ARE SOME WHO QUESTION THE
01:03:32REASON FOR THIS CONFERENCE.
01:03:34LET THEM LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF
01:03:36WOMEN IN THEIR HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS AND WORKPLACES.
01:03:40IF WOMEN HAVE A CHANCE TO WORK
01:03:43AND EARN AS FULL AND EQUAL PARTNERS IN SOCIETY, THEIR
01:03:48FAMILIES WILL FLOURISH. AND WHEN FAMILIES FLOURISH,
01:03:53COMMUNITIES AND NATIONS DO AS WELL.
01:03:55THAT IS WHY EVERY WOMAN, EVERY
01:04:00MAN, EVERY CHILD, EVERY FAMILY
01:04:02AND EVERY NATION ON OUR PLANET
01:04:05DOES HAVE A STAKE IN THE
01:04:07DISCUSSION THAT TAKES PLACE HERE.
01:04:11NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO
01:04:13REMAIN SILENT FOR FEAR OF RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL
01:04:17PERSECUTION AND ARREST. ABUSE OR TORTURE.
01:04:21I BELIEVE THAT NOW, ON THE EVE
01:04:24OF A NEW MILLENNIUM, IT IS TIME
01:04:27TO BREAK THIS SILENCE.
01:04:29IT IS TIME FOR US TO SAY HERE IN
01:04:33BEIJING AND FOR THE WORLD TO
01:04:35HEAR THAT IT IS NO LONGER
01:04:38ACCEPTABLE TO DISCUSS WOMEN'S
01:04:40RIGHTS AS SEPARATE FROM HUMAN RIGHTS.
01:04:44IF THERE IS ONE MESSAGE THAT ECHOES FORTH FROM THIS
01:04:48CONFERENCE, LET IT BE THAT HUMAN
01:04:51RIGHTS ARE WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND
01:04:54WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
01:04:56ONCE AND FOR ALL.
01:05:10JOHN. HEARING THESE WORDS, DOES IT
01:05:14MAKE YOU NOSTALGIC ABOUT THE VOICES AND THE ELOQUENCE OF THE
01:05:18PAST OR OPTIMISTIC? AND IF THE LATTER BECAUSE I KNOW I KNOW YOU.
01:05:22WHERE ARE THE VOICES COMING FROM?
01:05:25WHO DO YOU SEE AS BEING IN THE EDITION THAT YOUR KIDS WILL
01:05:29BRING OUT IN 30 YEARS WITH WITH THE NEW BATCH OF SPOKESPEOPLE
01:05:32FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM?
01:05:34IT'LL BE LIKE THE JETSONS, RIGHT?
01:05:37THEY'LL BE LIKE, THERE WON'T BE BOOKS THERE. WE'RE JUST THINK IT YOU KNOW, IT WILL HAPPEN.
01:05:41VERY AVATAR.
01:05:43I THINK. SO.
01:05:47AGAIN, I QUOTED HIM BEFORE, BUT
01:05:51ARTHUR SLATER USED TO SAY THAT
01:05:54IN 1940, IF YOU HAD DECIDED TO
01:05:56SAY THAT THE NEXT THREE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES
01:05:59WERE GOING TO BE A BACKBENCH SENATOR FROM MISSOURI, A MAJOR
01:06:02IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY, AND A
01:06:06HARVARD UNDERGRADUATE, YOU WOULD
01:06:08NOT HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BET WITH YOU. RIGHT.
01:06:12AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO EMERGE.
01:06:16BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT SOMEONE WILL.
01:06:20AND I BELIEVE, ACTUALLY THAT OUT
01:06:24OF WHAT LINCOLN WOULD CALL A FIERY TRIAL AND I BELIEVE THIS,
01:06:26IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE BEING
01:06:30TAKEN OFF THE STREETS AND PUT IN CAGES.
01:06:34THERE ARE.
01:06:38CONSTITUTIONAL NORMS, WHICH IS A
01:06:41FANCY WAY OF SAYING YOU DON'T DO
01:06:43IT BECAUSE IT'S WRONG BEING SMASHED.
01:06:49WHY? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.
01:06:51AND NOT ENOUGH FOLKS WHO HAVE
01:06:54ACHIEVED POWER WITHIN THE
01:06:56REPUBLIC ARE STANDING UP AGAINST IT.
01:07:00AND WE SHOULD HAVE SAT HERE AND READ ARTICLE ONE JUST FOR THE
01:07:03HELL OF IT. YOUR PART.
01:07:07THE ONLY GUY I KNOW WHO COULD MAKE THE CONSTITUTION SOUND PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT?
01:07:14REAPPORTIONMENT.
01:07:16SO I'M CONFIDENT. RIGHT.
01:07:19SO HERE'S. MAYBE IT'S A POINT TO END ON.
01:07:23MAYBE.
01:07:24IS THERE'S A REALLY INTERESTING
01:07:27POINT MADE BY MARK CARNEY THAT THAT SPEECH WOULD BE IN THIS. RIGHT.
01:07:31DO YOU REMEMBER THIS? THE DAVOS SPEECH WHERE HE USED A
01:07:35REALLY HE DID SOMETHING STARTLING. HE TOLD THE TRUTH.
01:07:41HE SAID THAT THE THE STORY OF
01:07:43THE POST WORLD WAR TWO, ATLANTIC
01:07:47ALLIANCE, LED BY AMERICAN POWER
01:07:50AND OUR MORAL INVESTMENT IN THE
01:07:55SECURITY OF OTHER NATIONS WAS A
01:07:59MYTH THAT WE NO LONGER ACCEPTED.
01:08:01IT WAS REALLY A FICTION. HE SAID. FICTION. I WOULD HAVE SAID ENOUGH.
01:08:05AND I THINK WHAT HE MEANT WAS
01:08:07THAT NATIONS NEED STORIES IN THE
01:08:11WAY PEOPLE NEED STORIES AND
01:08:17MYTHS ARE NOT BAD THINGS. MYTHS OR STORIES ABOUT THE
01:08:21ORIGIN, CAUSE AND DESTINY OF HUMAN LIFE.
01:08:26THE CENTRAL AMERICAN MYTH BEGINS
01:08:28WITH JEFFERSON AND CONTINUES TO
01:08:31UNFOLD THROUGH KING AND STANTON
01:08:35AND SENATOR CLINTON.
01:08:37THAT'S A STORY, IS IT?
01:08:41AS SIMPLE AS I JUST MADE IT OUT TO BE? OF COURSE NOT.
01:08:45YOU KNOW, IT'S THE STORY, ACTUALLY.
01:08:48IT'S IT'S NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT ACTUALLY, IT IS KIND OF
01:08:53SIMPLE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S ELEMENTAL.
01:08:56THERE IS A PRINCIPLE. WE HAVE IT.
01:08:59WE KNOW BECAUSE OF THE WORKINGS OF CONSCIENCE, WHAT THEODORE
01:09:04PARKER, WHO'S ALSO IN THIS BOOK CALLED THE MARK OF A MORAL
01:09:07UNIVERSE, YOU KNOW, BENDING TOWARD JUSTICE, BUT IT ONLY
01:09:10BENDS TOWARD JUSTICE IF WE INSIST THAT IT SWERVE BECAUSE
01:09:13SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY ALWAYS PULLING BACK.
01:09:17SO WE HAVE TO BE SURVIVORS AND
01:09:19THE VOICES OF THE SURVIVORS WILL BE IN THE NEXT FOR YOU.
01:09:25WELL, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT
01:09:28AMERICA NEEDS GREAT STORIES. BUT I WOULD ADD THAT AMERICA
01:09:31NEEDS GREAT STORYTELLERS AND GREAT VOICES.
01:09:34AND THAT'S WHY, AS WE PREPARE TO
01:09:36GO UPSTAIRS AND CELEBRATE THIS
01:09:38REMARKABLE TRIO AND HAVE A BOOK RECEPTION WHERE YOU CAN BUY THIS
01:09:42EXTRAORDINARY BOOK AND THIS AND
01:09:44LIVE WITH THIS COLLECTION, I, I
01:09:46WANT TO ASK YOU TO JOIN ME IN
01:09:49THANKING JON MEACHAM, STEPHEN
01:09:51LANG AND ELLEN BURSTYN.
01:10:11AND DISCOVER AMERICA'S STORY WITH C-SPAN'S NEW AMERICAN
01:10:15HISTORY TIMELINE POSTER. THIS LARGE 4.5FT WIDE POSTER
01:10:19EXPLORES THE LIVES AND PUBLIC SERVICE CAREERS OF EVERY U.S.
01:10:22PRESIDENT ALONG WITH KEY HISTORICAL EVENTS, LANDMARKS,
01:10:26SUPREME COURT CASES, CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND
01:10:28MAJOR TECHNOLOGY MILESTONES THROUGHOUT OUR NATION'S HISTORY.
01:10:32THE POSTER ALSO FEATURES A SPECIAL AMERICA TO WINDOW
01:10:35SECTION HIGHLIGHTING THE COUNTRY'S FOUNDING AND THE 250TH
01:10:39ANNIVERSARY OF THE UNITED STATES. BRINGING AMERICAN HISTORY HOME
01:10:43WITH C-SPAN, AMERICAN HISTORY
01:10:45TIMELINE POSTER SCAN THE CODE OR
01:10:47VISIT C-SPAN SHOP YOUR BOOK TV
01:10:54CONTINUES. NOW TELEVISION FOR SERIOUS
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