CSPAN3 — The Hearing Room Treasury Secy. Bessent Testifies on Economy ...

20260915 20:26 UTC · 03:02:00 · 2912 transcript segments · GDELT Visual Explorer · plain-text transcript · Event Map

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent testified on the state of the economy before the House Financial Services Committee. Topics included the use and potential regulation of AI in finance, inflation, oil prices, trade, and the war in Iran.<br /><br />Sponsor: House Financial Services Committee

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00:00:01C-SPAN.ORG.
00:00:01>> C-SPAN IS AS UNBIASED AS YOU
00:00:14CAN GET. >> YOU ARE SO FAIR.
00:00:17I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE CAN SAY OTHERWISE. >> YOU GUYS DO THE MOST
00:00:20IMPORTANT WORK FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:00:22>> I LOVE C-SPAN BECAUSE I GET TO HEAR ALL THE VOICES.
00:00:26>> YOU BRING THESE DIVERGENT VIEWPOINTS AND YOU PRESENT BOTH
00:00:29SIDES OF AN ISSUE AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS.
00:00:32>> I ABSOLUTELY LOVE C-SPAN. I LOVE TO HEAR BOTH SIDES.
00:00:36>> I WHAT SHE SPENT EVERY MORNING AND IT'S UNBIASED.
00:00:42YOU BRING IN FACTUAL INFORMATION FOR THE CALLERS TO UNDERSTAND
00:00:44WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR COMMENTS.
00:00:47>> PROBABLY THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN HEAR HONEST OPINION OF
00:00:51AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> YOU GUYS AT C-SPAN ARE DOING
00:00:53SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB OF ALLOWING
00:00:55FREE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS WITHOUT A LOT OF INTERRUPTIONS.
00:00:59>> THANK YOU FOR BEING A LIGHT IN THE DARK.
00:01:05>> TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT
00:01:09BESSENT TESTIFIES BEFORE THE HOUSE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE ON THE STATE OF THE
00:01:13U.S. ECONOMY. MEMBERS PRESSED HIM ON THE USE
00:01:14OF AI AND FINANCE, INFLATION,
00:01:18OIL PRICES, AND THE WARNER RON. THIS HEARING IS JUST UNDER -- THE WAR IN IRAN.
00:01:23THIS HEARING IS JUST UNDER THREE HOURS.
00:01:26>> THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES WILL COME TO ORDER.
00:01:30THE CHAIR HAS AUTHORIZED THE RECESS OF THE COMMITTEE AT ANY TIME.
00:01:36THE THE ANNUAL TESTIMONY FOR SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY AND
00:01:39THE STATE OF THE INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM. WITHOUT OBJECTION, ALL MEMBERS
00:01:43WILL HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO SUBMIT EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL TO
00:01:47THE CHAIR FOR THE INCLUSION OF THE RECORD. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR GUEST
00:01:51TODAY IN THE HEARING ROOM THAT
00:01:54IN ACCORDANCE TO RULE 11 OF LAWS
00:01:57FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
00:01:59, TO OBSERVE THE STANDARDS OF DIGNITY, PROPRIETY, COURTESY AND
00:02:02DECORUM, WE OBSERVED THE HOUSE AND THIS COMMITTEE.
00:02:10I RECOGNIZE MYSELF FOR FOUR MINUTES FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.
00:02:15GOOD MORNING, MR. SECRETARY. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
00:02:19WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO ENSURE AMERICA'S
00:02:22LEADERSHIP IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, AND ADVANCES THE
00:02:26INTEREST OF AMERICAN WORKERS,
00:02:27BUSINESSES, AND TAXPAYERS.
00:02:32THE UNITED STATES PLAYS A CENTRAL ROLE IN SHAPING THE INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM. THAT INFLUENCE REFLECTS THE
00:02:35GLOBAL IMPORTANCE OF THE UNITED STATES DOLLAR, THE SIZE AND DEPTH OF THE U.S. FINANCIAL
00:02:40MARKETS, AND OUR LONG-STANDING
00:02:42ROLE IN CRITICAL INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS THE INTERNATIONAL
00:02:46MONETARY FUND AND THE WORLD BANK. THE UNITED STATES IS THE LEADING
00:02:50SHAREHOLDER IN BOTH OF THESE KEY INSTITUTIONS. THAT GIVES THE COMMITTEE AN
00:02:53IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT AMERICAN INTERESTS
00:02:56ARE PROTECTED AND THAT U.S. GOVERNANCE IS SUBJECT TO THE
00:03:00APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT. WE MUST ENSURE THESE INSTITUTIONS REMAIN FOCUSED ON THEIR CORE MISSIONS.
00:03:04OPERATE TRANSPARENTLY, AND USE
00:03:09RESOURCES WIDELY CONSISTENT WITH THE CORE MISSION.
00:03:13UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THE WORLD BANK AND THE IMF WERE PULLED AWAY
00:03:16FROM THE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES BY MISSION CREEP.
00:03:21FOR EXAMPLE, TRYING TO TRANSFORM THE IMF INTO A CLIMATE DEVELOPMENT BANK.
00:03:24THAT IS NOT ITS ROLE AND IT DISTRACTS FROM ITS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT MISSION.
00:03:30FORTUNATELY UNDER THE TRUMP AND ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE SEEN A RENEWED EMPHASIS ON DELIVERING
00:03:33MEASURABLE RESULTS THROUGH ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCIPLINE AT
00:03:37BOTH THE IMF AND THE BANK.
00:03:40THE WORLD BANK MUST REMAIN COMMITTED TO REDUCING POVERTY
00:03:43AND PROMOTING ECONOMIC GROWTH BY
00:03:46DIRECTING RESOURCES TOWARDS COUNTRIES THAT GENUINELY NEED DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE.
00:03:49FOR YEARS THIS COMMITTEE HAS
00:03:53RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE WORLD BANK CONTINUING TO PROVIDE
00:03:55BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
00:04:00SECOND LARGEST ECONOMY IN ONE OF
00:04:05AMERICA'S FOREMOST STRATEGIC COMPETITORS.
00:04:06CHINA HAS ENORMOUS FINANCIAL
00:04:10RESOURCES OF THEIR OWN AND USES STATE DIRECTED INVESTMENT TO
00:04:13ADVANCE ITS ECONOMIC AND GEOPOLITICAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.
00:04:18AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD NOT BE BACKSTOPPING BEIJING.
00:04:24AND THEIR AMBITIONS AT THE WORLD BANK. THAT IS WHY THE WORLD BANK'S
00:04:26DECISION TO PHASE OUT ITS
00:04:29LENDING TO CHINA IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
00:04:33WE HAVE SEEN AN IMPORTANT LONG-OVERDUE CHANGE IN THE WORLD BANK'S APPROACH TO ENERGY.
00:04:41IN 2025 WITH STRONG BIPARTISAN
00:04:43PUSH WITH THE INTERNATIONAL
00:04:47NUCLEAR ENERGY FINANCING ACT, THE WORLD TOOK ITS FIRST
00:04:51CONCRETE STEP IN DECADES TO
00:04:52RE-ENGAGING WITH NUCLEAR ENERGY
00:04:55BY AGREEING TO RECEIVE NUCLEAR
00:04:58EXPERTISE, SUPPORT EXISTING
00:05:01REACTORS AND ADVANCE THE POTENTIAL OF SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTORS.
00:05:05THIS YEAR WE SAW THE FIRST
00:05:08CONTRIBUTION TO A NEW NUCLEAR ENERGY ASSISTANCE TRUST FUND AT
00:05:12THE BANK WHICH I HOPE WILL SEE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE U.S.
00:05:16TREASURY GOING FORWARD. DEVELOPING ECONOMIES NEED ACCESS
00:05:20TO RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE ELECTRICITY TO GROW, MAKING THIS
00:05:24EXACTLY THE KIND OF PRACTICAL PROGROWTH APPROACH THESE
00:05:27INSTITUTIONS SHOULD FULLY EMBRACE. I COMMEND THE PROGRESS OF THE
00:05:31WORLD BANK AND I HOPE THIS WILL
00:05:33TRANSLATE INTO MORE PROGRESS AND MORE FINANCING AROUND THE GLOBE.
00:05:36WHILE WE HAVE SEEN POSITIVE
00:05:39REPORTS AND PROGRESS AT THE WORLD BANK, CONCERNS REMAIN
00:05:42AROUND THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND APPROACH TO CHINA.
00:05:47IT SAFEGUARDS GLOBAL FINANCIAL STABILITY.
00:05:54IT REQUIRES RIGOROUS ECONOMIC OVERSIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY.
00:05:57CHINA PRESENTS A MAJOR TEST.
00:06:02IN ITS MOST RECENT ARTICLE FOR REVIEW IT FOUND WEAK DOMESTIC
00:06:06DEMAND, REAL EXCHANGE RATE
00:06:08DEPRECIATION AND RELIANCE ON EXPORTS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO
00:06:13EXTERNAL IMBALANCES AND ADVERSE SPILLOVERS FOR CHINA'S TRADING
00:06:16PARTNERS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
00:06:19DISCUSSION WITH YOU, MR. SECRETARY, AND I YIELD BACK.
00:06:22>> I RECOGNIZE MYSELF OR A POINT
00:06:27OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE WITH THE RANKING MEMBERS SUPPORT. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY
00:06:31APPRECIATION AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THREE OF OUR COMMITTEE
00:06:35STAFFERS AS THEY PREPARE TO DEPART THE HILL TO START NEW ENDEAVORS.
00:06:38JAY ZHENG HAS WORKED WITH ME.
00:06:48IT HAS LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR BIPARTISAN MAIN STREET
00:06:52CAPITAL ACCESS ACT WHICH RECEIVED A STRONG BIPARTISAN VOTE IN JULY.
00:06:57I'M ALSO UNBELIEVABLY PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED
00:06:59TOGETHER AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIS NEXT STEP.
00:07:02AND ROCKWELL JOINED US THIS
00:07:07CONGRESS AND LEAD OUR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SUBCOMMITTEE.
00:07:12HE IS WELCOMED TO THIS COMMITTEE AFTER HAVING WORKED FOR EIGHT
00:07:14YEARS AT THE HOUSE AGRICULTURE
00:07:18COMMITTEE. HE HAS BEEN INVALUABLE. GETTING GENIUS TO THE
00:07:22PRESIDENT'S DESK AND PASSING
00:07:24CLARITY IN THE HOUSE WAS
00:07:29DEMONSTRATIVE OF HIS HARD WORK.
00:07:30FINALLY I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY
00:07:34GOOD FRIEND FOR A LONG TIME, DAN SCHNEIDER, OUR COMMUNICATIONS
00:07:37DIRECTOR ON THE COMMITTEE WHO ALSO WORKED FOR ME IN OUR
00:07:41ARKANSAS OFFICE. A STEADFAST COMMUNICATOR WHO
00:07:44MADE SURE MY CONSTITUENTS KNOW HOW HARD WE ARE FIGHTING TO
00:07:48ENSURE THEY HAVE A BETTER ECONOMY AHEAD.
00:07:52I WANT TO THANK ALL THREE OF THESE FINE STAFFERS, I WISH THEM
00:07:55WELL AND I INVITE THE COMMITTEE
00:08:00TO JOIN ME IN A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE]
00:08:06I KNOW RANKING -- RECOGNIZE THE
00:08:09RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.
00:08:13>> SEC. BESSENT YOU HAVE BROUGHT
00:08:17A MILLION PROMISES, YOU PLEDGED
00:08:21DEEPER COOPERATION WITH OUR TRADING PARTNERS, STRONGER
00:08:23AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND GREATER
00:08:25STABILITY IN THE GROUP -- GLOBAL
00:08:31FINANCIAL SYSTEM. THE REALITY IS AN INCREASINGLY
00:08:33ISOLATED AMERICA, A WEAK,
00:08:37SELF-SERVING PRESIDENCY AND INSTABILITY EVERYWHERE INCLUDING HERE AT HOME.
00:08:44WHAT TALES WILL YOU TELL ABOUT
00:08:46ECONOMIC CYCLES WHEN FAMILIES
00:08:49TAKE OUT LOANS TO BUY FOOD?
00:08:51WHAT STORIES WILL YOU SPIN TO AMERICANS WHOSE HOMEOWNERSHIP
00:08:56DREAMS STRIP AWAY WITH 7% MORTGAGES.
00:09:02AND TARIFFS ON BUILDING
00:09:04MATERIALS ADDING NEARLY $11,000 TO THE COST OF A NEW HOME.
00:09:10WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
00:09:13THOSE TRYING TO SURVIVE UNDER YOUR NONSENSICAL TRADE POLICIES?
00:09:22TRUMPS WAR IN IRAN DRIVING UP THE COST OF LIVING FOR EVERYTHING.
00:09:25PRESIDENT TRUMP ASSURED THE
00:09:30AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE A STEADY HAND.
00:09:37I WOULD SAY OUR HANDS ARE SHAKY. AMERICANS KNOW THE TRUTH BECAUSE
00:09:41THEY FEEL IT AT THE GROCERY STORE, THE GAS PUMP, IN THEIR
00:09:45WALLETS, AROUND THEIR KITCHEN TABLES.
00:09:46THE ONLY BOOM HAPPENING IS THE
00:09:50ONE WHERE TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY HAVE MADE MORE THAN $2 BILLION SINCE TAKING OFFICE.
00:09:55IRONICALLY WHILE FAMILIES ENDURE
00:09:59, YOU HAVE MANAGED TO FIND BILLIONS TO BAIL OUT ARGENTINA
00:10:03AND YOUR WALL STREET BUDDIES.
00:10:06YOU HAVE COMMITTED UNITED STATES ASSETS TO SUPPORT JAPAN'S CURRENCY WHILE YOU FAILED TO
00:10:10LOWER LONG TERM INTEREST RATES,
00:10:13YOU HAVE A TAX THE ECONOMIES OF OUR CLOSEST ALLIES DRIVING UP
00:10:17COSTS ERA AT HOME. YOU HAVE BEEN COZYING UP TO
00:10:19PUTIN, GIVING WAIVERS TO RUSSIA
00:10:21TO EARN BILLIONS IN SANCTION OIL
00:10:25AND EXTEND ITS WAR AGAINST UKRAINE.
00:10:28IMAGINE IF THIS ADMINISTRATION CARES EVEN HALF AS MUCH ABOUT
00:10:32STRUGGLING AMERICANS. WHO ELSE BENEFITS?
00:10:35WALL STREET FOR ONE. THE STOCK MARKET MAY BE HITTING
00:10:38RECORD HIGHS, BUT ONE OUT OF
00:10:41FIVE AMERICANS ARE RATIONING THEIR MEALS.
00:10:45AI COMPANIES ARE DOING VERY WELL
00:10:46ON YOUR WATCH WHILE YOU DISMISS
00:10:49THE THREAT TO WORKERS AND JOBS AND OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND
00:10:54EVEN OUR VERY EXISTENCE AND WE CAN'T FORGET CRYPTO.
00:10:58YOU CALLED STABLE COIN A REVOLUTION, PREDICTING INCREASED
00:11:02DEMAND FOR U.S. TREASURIES, YET YOU ARE IGNORING THE CONFLICTS
00:11:06OF INTEREST IN THE TRUMP FAMILY, STABLE COIN AND CRYPTO
00:11:10BUSINESSES. THE TRUMP FAMILY IS CASHING IN
00:11:13FROM THE OVAL OFFICE WHILE MAIN STREET SUFFERS.
00:11:17COMMITTEE DEMOCRATS HAVE GIVEN YOU EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE
00:11:21RIGHT THING, WE HAVE SENT LETTERS AND DEMANDED ANSWERS,
00:11:23BUT CONSISTENTLY YOU HAVE
00:11:27DISREGARDED OR IGNORED OUR OVERSIGHT. THIS HEARING IS TRADITIONALLY AN
00:11:31OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TREASURY SECRETARY TO DELIVER REMARKS TO
00:11:33THIS COMMITTEE BUT I DO CAUTION
00:11:36EVERYONE TODAY WHATEVER YOU HERE
00:11:42TODAY, CHECK IT OUT, QUESTION IT, DON'T BE GAS LIT BY THE
00:11:45TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND A WORD
00:11:49ABOUT CUBA.
00:11:51YOU CUT OFF ALL THE OIL TO CUBA.
00:11:54YOU ARE STARVING THE FAMILIES AND THE CHILDREN, THEY DON'T
00:11:57HAVE ELECTRICITY, THEY CAN'T GET FOOD IN.
00:12:02WHAT YOU DOING, MR. SECRETARY?
00:12:03WHY ARE YOU BEING SO CRUEL? I KNOW WE HAVE A CRUEL
00:12:07PRESIDENT, BUT DO YOU HAVE TO BE A PUPPET?
00:12:12WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THIS COUNTRY?
00:12:16YOU ARE MAKING US NOT ONLY LOOK BAD, BUT ACT ALL OVER THE WORLD
00:12:20AND I TELL YOU HISTORY IS NOT
00:12:21GOING TO BE KIND TO YOU OR THIS
00:12:25ADMINISTRATION AND I SAY TO YOU, STOP TRYING TO KILL OFF THE
00:12:29FAMILIES IN CUBA. STOP STARVING THE CHILDREN.
00:12:32LET THE OIL FLOW, LET THEM HAVE
00:12:36ELECTRICITY, ALLOW THEM TO GET TRADE AND FOOD, ETC.
00:12:40I COULD GO ON ALL DAY.
00:12:42THIS IS NOT A FUN DAY FOR ME, THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL TIME AND
00:12:46YOU ARE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU COULD DO A LOT BETTER, YOU COULD
00:12:50BE KINDER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
00:12:52CRUEL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE CHILDREN STARVING AND DYING.
00:12:55AND WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK THE
00:13:00BALANCE OF MY TIME.
00:13:04THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, THE CHAIR
00:13:07OF OUR NATIONAL SUBCOMMITTEE, FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.
00:13:11>> SEC. BESSENT, I WANT TO
00:13:14COMMEND YOU FOR DELIVERING REAL RESULTS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
00:13:18WAS STORING FOCUS TO OUR INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND ENSURING
00:13:22AMERICA REMAINS THE CENTER OF
00:13:26GLOBAL MARKETS. YOU HAVE EDUCATED THE PUBLIC.
00:13:30SENATOR WARREN. ESPECIALLY ON THE UTILITY OF CURRENCY SLOTS.
00:13:34FROM THE RANKING MEMBERS OPENING REMARKS MORE WORK REMAINS.
00:13:39YOU HAVE PURSUED SANCTIONS OF AIDERS, HOSTILE REGIMES, AND
00:13:43INSTITUTIONS FUNDING AMERICA'S ADVERSARIES.
00:13:46YOU PUT TAXPAYER PROTECTION
00:13:48FIRST BY CRACKING DOWN ON MONEY LAUNDERING, CYBER SCAMS, AND
00:13:52ILLICIT FINANCIAL NETWORKS.
00:13:56TREASURIES IDENTIFICATION OF $17.5 BILLION IN SUSPECT HEALTH
00:14:00CARE FRAUD IS AN EXAMPLE. YOU HAVE CONSTITUTIONALLY
00:14:03PROTECTED PRIVACY BY ROLLING
00:14:07BACK THE ONEROUS CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY ACT.
00:14:10THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, A
00:14:13STEADY HAND REPAIRING DAMAGE DONE BY YEARS OF PRIOR NEGLECT OR MALFEASANCE.
00:14:16THANKS TO YOUR WORK WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
00:14:20CHAIR HILL: WE WELCOME THE TESTIMONY OF THE HONORABLE SCOTT
00:14:25BESSENT OF THE TREASURY. WE THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
00:14:28TODAY AND WE RECOGNIZE YOU FOR
00:14:31FIVE MINUTES TO MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT.
00:14:35YOUR WRITTEN STATEMENT WILL BE PART OF THE RECORD WITHOUT OBJECTION.
00:14:37SEC. BESSENT: CHAIRMAN, WRECKING
00:14:41MEMBER, AND NUMBER SOME THE COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR TODAY'S HEARING.
00:14:45I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THE INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM AS WE STRENGTHEN AMERICAN
00:14:49LEADERSHIP WITHIN IT. THE UNITED STATES BROUGHT
00:14:53LEADERSHIP TO ASHEVILLE. [YELLING]
00:14:59CHAIR HILL: THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER.
00:15:01THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER.
00:15:04I FORMALLY REQUESTED THOSE WHO
00:15:06ARE MAKING THE DISRUPTIONS CEASE THEIR ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY.
00:15:10THE COMMITTEE WILL SUSPEND UNTIL CAPITAL POLICE CAN RESTORE ORDER.
00:15:19PLEASE, AUDIENCE. BE IN COMPLIANCE OF THE HOUSE RULES. MR. SECRETARY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
00:15:23SEC. BESSENT: WELL, THAT IS A NOVEMBER DECISION.
00:15:28THIS VERSUS THAT. >> YOU ARE A WAR CRIMINAL!
00:15:31HOW DARE YOU!
00:15:33CHAIR HILL: THE COMMITTEE WILL
00:15:37SUSPEND UNTIL THIS ORDER CAN BE
00:15:41RESTORED.
00:15:41>> STOP THE ACTIONS IN IRAN.
00:15:45SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! [INDISCERNIBLE YELLING]
00:15:49CHAIR HILL: MR. SECRETARY,
00:15:53PLEASE PROCEED.
00:15:54SEC. BESSENT: IN RECENT WEEKS,
00:15:58THE UNITED STATES BROUGHT LEADERSHIP TO ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA.
00:16:02[YELLING]
00:16:04>> YOU GUYS ARE KILLING CIVILIAN
00:16:08WOMEN AND CHILDREN! YOU ARE MURDERERS!
00:16:21[INDISCERNIBLE SHOUTING] CHAIR HILL: WHAT ANYBODY ELSE
00:16:24LIKE TO DO THAT NOW AND GET IT OVER WITH? ALL RIGHT.
00:16:30THE COMMITTEE WILL RECONVENE.
00:16:31SEC. BESSENT: FOR DECADES,
00:16:34MULTILATERAL FORUMS LIKE THE G20. [SHOUTING]
00:16:38CHAIR HILL: I'M SORRY, MR.
00:16:42SECRETARY, WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. [YELLING]
00:16:50[INDISCERNIBLE YELLING]
00:16:54CHAIR HILL: MR. SECRETARY, YOU
00:16:58ARE RECOGNIZED. SEC. BESSENT: FOR DECADES,
00:17:02MULTILATERAL FORUMS LIKE THE G20
00:17:04ACCUMULATED AGENDAS WHILE LOSING
00:17:08TRACK OF THEIR POOR MISSIONS. [SHOUTING]
00:17:12CHAIR HILL: MR. SECRETARY.
00:17:16[LOUD SHOUTING]
00:17:26[SHOUTING
00:17:29CHAIR HILL: MR. SECRETARY, YOU
00:17:33ARE RECOGNIZED.
00:17:34SEC. BESSENT: WE RECEIVED BROAD
00:17:42AGREEMENT ON THE NEED TO PROMOTE IT.
00:17:44WE HAVE REACHED CONSENSUS FOR ECONOMIES REPRESENTING TWO
00:17:48THIRDS OF GLOBAL GDP TO IMPROVE
00:17:52THE GLOBAL ARCHITECTURE AND
00:17:57SUPPORT REGULATORY MODERNIZATION.
00:17:58IN SUBSTANCE AND SPIRIT, THEY
00:18:05ARE ENSURING THAT AMERICAN TIME AND RESOURCES SHOW AMERICAN
00:18:09INTERESTS AND THEY BRING THAT SAME DISCIPLINE TO THE IMF AND
00:18:12WORLD BANK TO REMAIN TRUE TO
00:18:16THEIR MANDATE AND ARE BETTER POSITIONED TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
00:18:19AS GROWTH GUIDES OUR LEADERSHIP ONE OF THE WORLD STAGE IT IS
00:18:24IMPORTANT TO CARRY THAT GREAT
00:18:25NATION TO STRENGTH HERE AT HOME
00:18:28PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ECONOMIC TURNAROUND IS ESPECIALLY IMPRESSIVE GIVEN THE TURNAROUND
00:18:32-- WHAT HE INHERITED FROM HIS
00:18:36PREDECESSOR WERE INFLATION
00:18:38SOARED TO A HIGH AND FAMILIES WERE DEALING WITH PRICE
00:18:41INCREASES OF 21.5% OR MORE.
00:18:44UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP, THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS CREATED OVER ONE MILLION JOBS.
00:18:49THE BOTTOM 25% OF WAGE EARNERS
00:18:54ARE SEEING LARGER WAGE INCREASES THAN THOSE AT THE TOP.
00:18:56THE WORKING FAMILIES TAX CUTS HAS DELIVERED THE LARGER SHARE
00:18:59OF TAX RELIEF DIRECTLY TO
00:19:03MILLIONS OF LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME AMERICANS. OVER 64 MILLION TAX RETURNS
00:19:08CLAIMED AT LEAST ONE OF
00:19:09PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SIGNATURE
00:19:15CHANGES, NO TAX ON TIPS, NO TAX
00:19:19ON LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME SENIORS.
00:19:22AMERICANS RECEIVE OVER 325 BILLION DOLLARS IN REFUNDS.
00:19:32MANY FAMILIES HAVE CLAIMED THE EXPANDING CHILD TAX CREDIT.
00:19:35THIS LEGISLATION, IF OPPONENTS
00:19:40HAD THEIR WAY, THIS ECONOMY WOULD HAVE BEEN SOLD THE LARGEST
00:19:44TAX HIKE IN HISTORY, OVER $5 TRILLION.
00:19:47EACH OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS POINTS TO A STRUCTURAL RENEWAL
00:19:50OF AMERICA'S CAPACITY TO PRODUCE
00:19:54AND PROSPER. U.S. MANUFACTURING IS ROARING
00:19:56BACK TO ITS STRONGEST PACE IN
00:20:00YEARS. BUSINESS ACTIVITY HAS SURGED TO
00:20:04A 52 MONTH HIGH.
00:20:05AND AS COMPANIES ALLOCATE TRADE,
00:20:11THE ATLANTA FED NOW PROJECTS THIRD-QUARTER GDP GROWTH TO SURPASS 4%.
00:20:17A NEW INDUSTRIAL SUPER CYCLE IS MOVING FROM INVESTMENT TO
00:20:21PRODUCTION.
00:20:25THE STRENGTH OF OUR ECONOMY HAS
00:20:27ALLOWED THE UNITED STATES TO WAGE THE GREATEST ECONOMIC
00:20:30ISOLATION CAMPAIGN AND ITS
00:20:36ENABLERS. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TAKEN ACTION
00:20:38THAT HIS PREDECESSORS HAVE LONG
00:20:40DEFERRED AGAINST A REGIME THAT DEVOTES ITSELF TO DEATH TO
00:20:45AMERICA AND SEEKS NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO DO JUST THAT.
00:20:48UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP AMERICA IS
00:20:51NO LONGER MANAGING THE IRANIAN THREAT.
00:20:54AMERICA'S ECONOMIC RESURGENCE IS REINFORCING OUR CAPACITY TO DO
00:20:58SO FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH.
00:21:01THE GROWTH WE ARE ADVANCING.
00:21:14THE PURPOSE OF OUR ECONOMIC LEADERSHIP AND THE PRINCIPAL
00:21:18THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GUIDE IT.
00:21:19CHAIR HILL: THANK YOU, I
00:21:24RECOGNIZE MYSELF FOR FIVE MINUTES.
00:21:26MR. SECRETARY, ONE THAT THEN
00:21:30DIRECTOR GATZKE WAS BEFORE IN
00:21:35JULY, SHE TALKED ABOUT UPDATING
00:21:40THE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORT
00:21:42THRESHOLDS WHICH AS YOU KNOW FROM YOUR YEARS IN THE PRIVATE
00:21:46SECTOR ARE DECADES OUT OF DATE.
00:21:50WE HEARD THE SAME UNDER THE TESTIMONY FROM THE BIDEN
00:21:54ADMINISTRATION.
00:21:56UPDATING THE THRESHOLDS IS NOW FIVE YEARS OVERDUE.
00:22:01SO WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON TRYING
00:22:03TO TACKLE THIS ISSUE OF RAISING
00:22:07THE THRESHOLD LIMITS ON SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORTS AND CTR'S?
00:22:10SEC. BESSENT: CHAIRMAN HILL,
00:22:15VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING. WE BELIEVE WE MUST GET THIS
00:22:20RIGHT BECAUSE AS YOU SAID IT HAS
00:22:23GONE ON FOR YEARS AND WE WANT TO
00:22:25DO THAT WITH A COMBINATION OF POTENTIALLY RAISING THE
00:22:29THRESHOLD AND ALSO GIVING CREDIT TO INSTITUTIONS FOR THE DURATION
00:22:33THEY HAVE KNOWN THEIR CLIENTS.
00:22:35WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THIS AND AS ALWAYS, WE WILL BE LOOKING
00:22:41AFTER OUR SMALLER FINANCIAL
00:22:44INSTITUTIONS, SMALL BANKS, AND
00:22:45COMMUNITY BANKS WHILE
00:22:52MAINTAINING THE SAFETY AND SOUNDNESS OF OUR FINANCIAL
00:22:56INSTITUTIONS. CHAIR HILL: THE INFORMATION
00:23:00BEING PROVIDED IS BEING USED AND HELPFUL IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST THE
00:23:03CARTELS AND GLOBAL TERRORISTS
00:23:07AND ILLICIT FINANCE BECAUSE A LOT OF FINANCIAL DECISIONS DON'T
00:23:11GET THE ATTITUDE THAT THAT IS THE CASE.
00:23:17IF IT WERE A DOLLAR THEY COULD LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE
00:23:20CATEGORY BUT YOUR LEADERSHIP
00:23:24WOULD MAKE THIS A PRIORITY. WE ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR
00:23:28STATEMENT ABOUT CUTTING IRAN'S
00:23:31MURDEROUS REGIME OFF FROM
00:23:35WORKAROUNDS OF THE EXISTING SANCTIONS.
00:23:38IT IS FINALLY SEEKING TO BRING THAT GAME OF HIDE AND SEEK TO CLOSE.
00:23:44CHINA AND THE UAE ON TRADE AND
00:23:52MONEY MOVEMENTS FROM IRAN.
00:23:55WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO GET THEM IN LINE WITH YOUR GOALS?
00:23:59SEC. BESSENT: I THINK WE HAVE
00:24:02SEEN SOME VERY FORWARD FACING
00:24:04STATEMENTS FROM THE UAE AND THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY HAVE CUT OFF
00:24:08FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS AND TRADE WITH IRAN.
00:24:14AND ONE OF MY DEPUTIES WAS JUST
00:24:17THERE AND HAD A VERY GOOD
00:24:21DISCUSSION WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THEIR FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND AS
00:24:25YOU WILL SEE, TWO WEEKS AGO WE SANCTIONED THE BRANCHES OF AN
00:24:28EGYPTIAN BANK IN DUBAI AND THAT BANK WILL BE CLOSING.
00:24:35THAT BANK TRANSFERRED MORE THAN
00:24:37$1.8 BILLION SINCE 2025 TO IRAN.
00:24:42OUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN HEARD THAT YOU KNOW
00:24:46WHO YOU ARE, STOP.
00:24:50WE HAVE SANCTIONED THREE BANKS.
00:24:53WE HAVE HAD SOME VERY GOOD PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS AND I LOOK
00:24:57FORWARD TO THOSE CONTINUING THIS
00:25:00WEEKEND WHEN I MEET MY CHINESE COUNTERPART.
00:25:06AND I'M SURE WILL CONTINUE DURING THE STATE VISIT.
00:25:12CHAIR HILL: AN IMPORTANT AGENDA
00:25:16ITEM FOR THE BILATERAL DISCUSSION. YOU ALSO KNOW THAT THE SUPREME
00:25:20COURT IS RECENTLY REVIEWING
00:25:24PETITIONS THAT THEY REVIEW THE CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY ACT.
00:25:26I SUPPORT THE SUPREME COURT REVIEWING THIS ACT.
00:25:32I WANT TO THANK THE TREASURY FOR
00:25:39TARGETING GET IN LINE WITH THE WORK OF MR. DAVIDSON.
00:25:47YOU WOULDN'T OBJECT TO THAT REVIEW WHAT THE COURT?
00:25:51WE WILL TURN TO THE IMF AND THE TIME I HAVE REMAINING.
00:25:56GOING BACK TO BASICS FOR THE IMF
00:26:00AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE CHINA
00:26:03INCREASING ITS ALLOCATION IN THE
00:26:07SPECIAL BASKET OF CURRENCIES. IT IS NOT A MARKET ECONOMY, IT
00:26:11DOES NOT HAVE A FREELY TRADED CURRENCY.
00:26:15YOU CALLED OUT CHINA, ALL 19 COUNTRIES CALLED UP CHINA AT
00:26:19YOUR G20 MEETING.
00:26:22WOULD YOU AGREE THE IMF NEEDS TO HOLD CHINA MORE ACCOUNTABLE?
00:26:25SEC. BESSENT: I BELIEVE THAT THE
00:26:29IMF IS IN ADVANCED DISCUSSIONS WITH CHINA ON THE NATURE OF
00:26:33THEIR IMBALANCES AND THE
00:26:39IMBALANCES THAT POSED DIFFICULTIES.
00:26:41CHAIR HILL: I RECOMMEND THE
00:26:45RANKING MEMBER FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. REP. WATERS: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
00:26:49SEC. BESSENT, SMALL BUSINESSES
00:26:53FEEL THE PAIN OF YOUR RECKLESS ECONOMIC POLICIES, SKYHIGH
00:26:57PRICES WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S
00:27:04CHAOTIC TARIFFS AND OTHER
00:27:09UNSOUND POLICIES, THE AVERAGE
00:27:11AMERICAN IS SPENDING $3500 MORE
00:27:17THAN THEY OTHERWISE WILL FOR
00:27:17GROCERIES, GAS, AND HOUSEHOLDS.
00:27:23THAT WAS BEFORE PRESIDENT TRUMP
00:27:25STARTED AN UNNECESSARY TRADE WAR WITH CANADA.
00:27:34YET TRUMP IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THIS.
00:27:37THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID
00:27:41REPEATEDLY THAT IT IS A HOAX.
00:27:44HE SAID HE DOES NOT CARE THAT AMERICANS ARE PAYING MORE FOR
00:27:49GAS.
00:27:51FOR YOUR PART YOU ANNOUNCED A
00:27:56SO-CALLED ECONOMIC D-DAY AGAINST IRAN.
00:28:10AMERICANS SEE THE PAINFUL EFFECTS OF THE ECONOMY.
00:28:13YOU CLAIM THAT ECONOMIC
00:28:18DIFFICULTIES EXIST.
00:28:23YOU HAVE SAID I AM THE HOUSE NOW.
00:28:29THERE CONTINUES TO BE A SELLOFF OF U.S. TREASURIES.
00:28:36THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE 2007.
00:28:41YESTERDAY THE NEAR TERM 5%.
00:28:45DO YOU NOT AGREE THAT THESE HIGH TREASURY YIELDS ARE INTEREST
00:28:49RATES ON AMERICA'S BONDS MEAN
00:28:57THIS WILL ALSO BE EXPENSIVE, YES OR NO?
00:28:59SEC. BESSENT: D U.S. BOND MARKET
00:29:03HAS BEEN THE BEST-PERFORMING. REP. WATERS: YES OR NO, MR.
00:29:07SECRETARY. YES OR NO.
00:29:10RECLAIMING MY TIME, RECLAIMING
00:29:13MY TIME, RECLAIMING MY TIME, RECLAIMING MY TIME.
00:29:17YOU WILL KEEP TALKING, I WILL KEEP RECLAIMING MY TIME.
00:29:23IF TARIFFS ARE NOT INFLATIONARY AS YOU CLAIMED IN YOUR PREVIOUS
00:29:28TESTIMONY THEN WHY HAS INFLATION
00:29:32INCREASED MORE THAN 3% OVER THE PAST YEAR?
00:29:36DO YOU DENY THAT IT IS TOO HIGH?
00:29:41YES OR NO? YES OR NO?
00:29:47RECLAIMING MY TIME, RECLAIMING
00:29:49MY TIME, RECLAIMING MY TIME,
00:29:52RECLAIMING MY TIME, RECLAIMING MY TIME.
00:29:55WHAT DID YOU SAY?
00:29:58DOES THE TIME BELONG TO THE GENTLELADY? CHAIR HILL: INDEED.
00:30:01REP. WATERS: INDEED IT DOES.
00:30:05THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH SIR.
00:30:09YOU HAVE OVERSEEN AN INCREASE TO
00:30:14$5 TRILLION.
00:30:21THIS IS SO OUTRAGEOUS WHEN YOU
00:30:25AND OTHERS HAVE CLAIMED TO BE
00:30:29ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE DEFICIT.
00:30:34PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTINUES TO
00:30:34BLINDLY PUSH WITH ABSOLUTELY NO
00:30:39SAFEGUARD.
00:30:44BUT DID YOU HEAR WHAT BILL GATES HAD TO SAY?
00:30:49DID YOU HEAR ABOUT ANTHROPIC?
00:30:52THEY ALL SAY STOP IT, WATCH IT,
00:30:56AI IS DANGEROUS, YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL. DID YOU HEAR ANY THAT?
00:31:03YES OR NO? RECLAIMING MY TIME, RECLAIMING
00:31:07MY TIME. DID YOU HEAR WHAT YOUR FRIENDS
00:31:11HAD TO SAY, WHAT THE BIG BILLIONAIRES HAD TO SAY?
00:31:14DID YOU UNDERSTAND THEY SAID WE
00:31:18ARE MOVING TO A DANGEROUS PERIOD OF TIME? DID YOU HEAR THAT?
00:31:21SEC. BESSENT: THIS
00:31:24ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF EXAMINING THE MODELS.
00:31:29SEC. BESSENT: THEY SAID -- REP.
00:31:31WATERS: THEY SAID WATCH IT, BE CAREFUL.
00:31:39AND IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO
00:31:41STAND UP TO THE TRUTH, THESE ARE
00:31:45THE GUYS THAT YOU WORK WITH.
00:31:50THESE ARE THE BILLIONAIRES AND TRILLIONAIRE'S.
00:31:53CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE VICE CHAIRMAN.
00:31:57>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
00:32:02SEC. BESSENT, THIS HAS BECOME A COMMON THEME.
00:32:06WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND ON ANY OF THAT?
00:32:10SEC. BESSENT: TO WHICH PEACE?
00:32:13THERE ARE SO MANY.
00:32:16>> WELL, WE CAN MOVE ON.
00:32:20INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I'M GOING
00:32:24TO BE DOING A HEARING IN THE OF
00:32:25FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE THE
00:32:32COHORT FOR MALIGN INFLUENCE OPERATIONS WHICH WILL BE
00:32:34DISCUSSING ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CODE PINK.
00:32:41FUNNELING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THE U.S. TO FUND THOSE LIKE
00:32:45THIS SO THEY CAN COME AND DO THINGS LIKE THIS PERFORMANCE ART
00:32:49THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.
00:32:52MY APOLOGIES, BUT I GUESS YOU
00:32:56CAN EXPECT MORE AND MAYBE WE
00:32:57WILL SEE IF A FEW OF THESE PEOPLE CAN GET ARRESTED TWICE IN
00:33:01A DAY IF THEY SHOW UP AT MY 2:00 HEARING.
00:33:04I UNDERSTAND THE TREASURY
00:33:06DEPARTMENT AND THE BROADER ADMINISTRATION HAVE TECH
00:33:10SECURITY EFFORTS RUNNING FROM
00:33:14THE READINESS TASK FORCE TO THE LAUNCH OF THE CYBERSECURITY CLEARINGHOUSE.
00:33:20HOW IS TREASURY MAKING SURE THESE EFFORTS WORK TOGETHER
00:33:24WHILE DOING SOLID, DUPLICATE OF
00:33:29EFFORTS.
00:33:34TREASURY AGAIN WITH THE
00:33:36FINANCIAL SERVICES.
00:33:39SEC. BESSENT: WHETHER IT IS THE
00:33:44DEPARTMENT OF WAR, CYBERSECURITY, WE HAVE BEEN
00:33:48COORDINATING FOR SIX MONTHS ON THIS.
00:33:50IT IS AN INTERAGENCY PROCESS.
00:33:57I WOULD SAY CAN CROSS AND
00:34:00MICHAEL KRATZ SEO'S. REP. HUIZENGA: OK.
00:34:06IT MAY PROVE CRITICAL IN PROTECTING OUR FINANCIAL PLUMBING.
00:34:09THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
00:34:14IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE OR PLAN TO PUBLISH ABOUT HOW ENTITIES IN THE FINANCIAL
00:34:18SERVICES SECTOR FROM TRADITIONAL
00:34:22FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO THE LAYER ONE BLOCK CHAIN NETWORKS
00:34:26CAN QUALIFY TO PARTICIPATE? I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION WE ARE HAVING.
00:34:28SEC. BESSENT: I THINK THAT IS
00:34:38VERY IMPORTANT.
00:34:39AS SOON AS THE NEWS OF MYTHOS
00:34:43CAME OUT I GATHERED THE LARGEST BANKS WHO HAPPENED TO BE IN D.C.
00:34:46AT TREASURY TO BEGIN DISCUSSING THIS.
00:34:48THE LARGEST BANKS HAVE GOOD
00:34:52CYBERSECURITY RESILIENCE AND THEY HAD BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN
00:34:55TERMS OF CREATING THOSE AND
00:35:00MOVING DOWN THE CAPITALIZATION CHAIN TO SMALL AND COMMUNITY
00:35:03BANKS THAT THEY ARE POPULATING THAT OUT INTO THE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
00:35:08REP. HUIZENGA: THE PLUMBING SIDE
00:35:13OF THIS ON THE WORKING GROUP? SEC. BESSENT: IT IS THE PLUMBING
00:35:16AND THE PATCHING OF A LOT OF OPEN SOURCE CODE.
00:35:19REP. HUIZENGA: I'M GOING TO MOVE
00:35:21ON TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YOU AND I HAD PREVIOUS DISCOURSE
00:35:26ABOUT IN VARIOUS PUBLICATIONS
00:35:29ABOUT YOUR SHARED ASPIRATION FOR
00:35:33THE 3% TARGET.
00:35:35A BIPARTISAN FISCAL FORM.
00:35:40WE HAVE INTRODUCED WITH MY COLLEAGUE SCOTT PETERS FROM
00:35:44CALIFORNIA HAVE INTRODUCED A
00:35:45RESOLUTION CONGRESS SHOULD ADOPT
00:35:49THIS FISCAL TARGET OF A 3% OF
00:35:53GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT OR LOWER.
00:35:57I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST PRACTICAL, TANGIBLE GOAL WE CAN
00:36:02SET TO TURN THE TIDE ON OUR NATIONAL DEBT.
00:36:07WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT OUTLOOK ON
00:36:09THE 3% TARGET AND CAN YOU EVEN
00:36:14EXPLAIN WHY THIS FIRST STEP IS NOT JUST CRITICAL TO
00:36:16INTERNATIONAL FINANCES, BUT ALSO TO WORKERS ACROSS OUR NATION?
00:36:20SEC. BESSENT: THE RECENT 3% IS
00:36:23IMPORTANT BECAUSE AT 3% IS WHEN
00:36:27WE START PAYING DOWN DEBT.
00:36:30THE IMPORTANT THING TO LOOK AT
00:36:35IS THE DEFICIT.
00:36:38IN THE FIRST FISCAL YEAR, THE
00:36:41TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CAN COME
00:36:46FROM 6.3%.
00:36:47THE CALENDAR YEAR WAS 6.8%,
00:36:516.9%. THEY BROUGHT IT DOWN.
00:36:56SO WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE A FISCAL
00:36:58CONTRACTION AND WE WOULD HAVE CONTINUED THAT FISCAL
00:37:02CONTRACTION.
00:37:10REP. HUIZENGA: THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIRMAN
00:37:15RECOGNIZES MR. SHERMAN OF CALIFORNIA.
00:37:17REP. SHERMAN: MR. CHAIRMAN, I
00:37:22WANT TO THANK YOU.
00:37:23IT IS ACCESS TO THE WORLD BANK,
00:37:28BUT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CHINA JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO WHEN WE
00:37:33HAD A CODE PINK STYLE DISRUPTION
00:37:36OF THIS HEARING, I SHOULD POINT
00:37:38OUT THAT CODE PINK IS FINANCED
00:37:42BY CHINA, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.
00:37:47ONE MORE REASON TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT CHINA'S ROLE IN
00:37:51INTERNATIONAL FINANCE.
00:37:52THE WAR HAS DRIVEN UP GAS PRICES
00:37:56AND INTEREST RATES BEFORE THIS
00:38:00WAR, THE TENURE WAS AT 4%, NOW
00:38:03IT IS LARGELY AT 5%.
00:38:05LAST YEAR THE STRATEGIC
00:38:13PETROLEUM RESERVE. THEY HAVE NOT.
00:38:21NOW WE HAVE A BITCOIN RESERVE.
00:38:30I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE WHO EVER HAD A BITCOIN RESERVE.
00:38:34IF YOU HAD AN OIL RESERVE AND IF
00:38:37YOU HAD RESERVES OF MINERALS,
00:38:40YOU HAVE A STRATEGIC RISK, THE
00:38:45MONEY THAT YOU PUT IT IN A BITCOIN RESERVE THAT YOU COULD
00:38:48LOSE IN A DAY, SHOULD BE IN STRATEGIC RESERVES OF THINGS WE NEED TO RUN THE ECONOMY.
00:38:54WE ARE TOLD THAT TARIFFS DON'T
00:38:59DRIVE INFLATION. BOY, DO WE NEED FINANCIAL LITERACY IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:39:05WE HAVE FOCUSED SIGNIFICANTLY ON
00:39:09THE ROLE OF THE U.S. DOLLAR WHICH IS UNDERMINED BY AN
00:39:12INCREDIBLY EROTIC FEDERAL
00:39:16ADMINISTRATION THAT MAKES US THE LAUGHING STOCK THE WORLD.
00:39:19IT IS EXACERBATED BY THE CRINGEY
00:39:22TARIFF POLICIES AND NOW WE HAVE A WAR WITH CANADA.
00:39:26THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF CRYPTO WAS TO DISPLACE OR PARTIALLY
00:39:30DISPLACE THE DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY.
00:39:35WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT IN THE SENATE THEY
00:39:38ARE CONSIDERING THE CLARITY ACT
00:39:43WITHOUT PLUGGING THE LOOPHOLE IN
00:39:49STABLE COIN.
00:39:50THE DEAL WAS STABLE COIN, NOW
00:39:56THE CRYPTO GUYS HAVE SPENT TENS
00:40:00OF MILLIONS ON LEGAL FEES TO
00:40:02EVADE THAT PROHIBITION ON INTEREST ON STABLE COIN.
00:40:07A RECENT STUDY HAS SHOWN THAT
00:40:09COULD LEAD TO A $1.5 TRILLION
00:40:13REDUCTION IN BANK DEPOSITS
00:40:15MEANING THE PRIMARY WAY WE FINANCE SMALL BUSINESS IN THIS
00:40:19COUNTRY WOULD HAVE $1.5 TRILLION
00:40:21LESS, NOT TO MENTION THERE COULD
00:40:24BE $1.5 TRILLION LESS FOR THE
00:40:27COMMUNITY INVESTMENT ACT.
00:40:29AND FINALLY STABLE COIN IS A
00:40:34SYSTEM DESIGNED TO BE ALTAR SECRET, TO DEFEAT LAW
00:40:37ENFORCEMENT, AND TO IGNORE DATA
00:40:43FROM YOUR CUSTOMER.
00:40:47MR. SECRETARY, ONE OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF THE U.S. BANKING
00:40:51SYSTEM IS ACCOUNTABLE --
00:40:55ACCOUNTABILITY RESTS WITH IDENTIFIABLE PEOPLE AND INSTITUTIONS.
00:40:59DECENTRALIZED COINS OPERATE
00:41:04THROUGH AUTONOMOUS MECHANISMS THAT LACK ACCOUNTABILITY.
00:41:11GIVEN THE RECORD NUMBER OF D5 EXPLOITS AND THE USE OF AI
00:41:14EXPLODING CODE, ARE YOU
00:41:17CONCERNED THAT A GROWING SHARE OF FINANCIAL ACTIVITY COULD
00:41:20MIGRATE TO SYSTEMS WHERE THERE
00:41:22IS NO ACCOUNTABLE PARTY AND NO
00:41:26CUSTOMER REQUIREMENTS? WHAT IMPLICATIONS WOULD THIS
00:41:29HAVE FOR OUR EFFORTS AGAINST
00:41:30ILLICIT FINANCE AND WHAT COULD
00:41:34THAT HAVE ONE OF THE INTEGRITY OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEMS?
00:41:36SEC. BESSENT: THE PASSAGE OF THE
00:41:40CLARITY ACT GIVES TREASURY MORE AUTHORITY IS TO SEEK THIS OUT.
00:41:49REP. SHERMAN: THE CLARITY ACT,
00:41:52BOLDEN'S AND MAKES MORE POPULAR
00:41:56THE RIVAL TO THE U.S. DOLLAR, WHICH IS CRYPTO, OR AT LEAST
00:42:00THEY ARE THE NEWEST RIVAL TO THE U.S. DOLLAR AND THEY HAVE SAID
00:42:04THAT THEIR PURPOSE.
00:42:09AMERICA OWNS COKE AND YOU ARE SUGGESTING AN VEXING AND PEPSI.
00:42:14WE DON'T NEED THE COMPETITION ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE DOING
00:42:18SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB OF RUNNING OUR ECONOMY.
00:42:20CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES
00:42:24THE GENTLEMAN FOR FIVE MINUTES.
00:42:25>> MR. SECRETARY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
00:42:30I WANT TO GO BACK TO CHINA IF I COULD.
00:42:34YOUR LITTLE MORE BASIC KIND OF APPROACH.
00:42:38THE IMF IS SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE
00:42:40GLOBAL FINANCIAL STABILITY, BUT
00:42:42IT APPEARS KIND OF ON A REGULAR
00:42:44BASIS IT CONTINUES TO USE THESE
00:42:51PRACTICES THAT MANAGES THE
00:42:52EXCHANGE RATE AND THEY CERTAINLY
00:42:56DELAY DEBT RESTRUCTURING I GUESS HE WOULD CALL IT IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES.
00:43:03WHAT ARE WE DOING OR WHAT CAN WE
00:43:04DO TO USE OUR INFLUENCE TO HOLD
00:43:09CHINA MORE ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKE
00:43:15SURE BEIJING DOES NOT CONTINUE BLOCKING ALL OF THESE DEBT
00:43:18RESTRUCTURINGS AND DISTORTING?
00:43:22DISTORTING THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM, RIGHT? COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS
00:43:26ON THAT?
00:43:29SEC. BESSENT: WE WILL SEE THE
00:43:34FIRST DEBT RESTRUCTURING SINCE THEN. AND IT IS.
00:43:39THE CHINESE SYSTEM OF LENDING
00:43:41INCLUDES MANY HIDDEN PROVISIONS
00:43:46AND TRANSPARENTLY IN DEBT
00:43:50RESTRUCTURING IS THE ULTIMATE FEATURE.
00:43:55THE IMF HAS JOINED US IN
00:43:59BELIEVING THAT MUST HAPPEN AND WE MUST HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
00:44:03IT IS ALSO MY OPINION THAT THIS
00:44:08INITIATIVE HAS GONE FROM A LENDING TO A COLLECTION OPERATION.
00:44:15THEY ARE BANKRUPTING MANY OF THEIR BORROWERS.
00:44:16REP. FITZGERALD: I KNOW THE
00:44:19DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN, BUT THE
00:44:22EFFORTS BY CHINA AND REALLY
00:44:25OTHER COUNTRIES AND REDUCING THE RELIANCE ON THE DOLLAR.
00:44:31CAN YOU TELL US WHY MAINTAINING
00:44:35THE DOLLAR'S STATUS AS THE PRIMARY RESERVE CURRENCY MATTERS?
00:44:39I KNOW THAT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE.
00:44:43WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
00:44:46SEC. BESSENT: CONTRARY TO THE
00:44:50GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, WHEN
00:44:55THE LEADER DOESN'T FEAR COMPETITION, COMPETITION MAKES
00:44:57US BETTER WE HAVE THUS FAR
00:45:02DISMISSED COMPETITION.
00:45:08THE U.S. DOLLAR CONTINUES TO THRIVE.
00:45:10WE SHOW GLOBAL TRANSACTIONS IN
00:45:12DOLLARS WENT UP THIS YEAR AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVE SEEN IS
00:45:16THE DIMINISHMENT THROUGH THE
00:45:22DECREASE OF MOSTLY RUSSIA AND
00:45:25CHINA AND WE HAVE SEEN MANY
00:45:28OTHER COUNTRIES AND AS A MATTER
00:45:31OF FACT WE JUST HAD TWO OF THE
00:45:36MOST SUCCESSFUL TREASURY AUCTIONS IN 20 YEARS WHICH SPEAKS TO THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR
00:45:40SYSTEM AND WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING IN THE GLOBAL CONFIDENCE IN US.
00:45:44REP. FITZGERALD: WE OFTENTIMES
00:45:48FOCUS ON WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION CAN DO, WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS BE
00:45:51DOING TO PRESERVE NOT JUST THE
00:45:54DOLLAR AS A CURRENCY, BUT JUST TO STABILIZE THE MARKETS OVERALL?
00:46:01SEC. BESSENT: WE WILL BE TALKING
00:46:05ABOUT A FISCAL CONSOLIDATION THAT IS COMING.
00:46:09THAT IS IMPORTANT.
00:46:12WE HAVE TO GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER.
00:46:15IT IS NOT A PRICE ON THE SCREEN, IT IS A SET OF BEHAVIORS.
00:46:20WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WHERE WE ARE
00:46:23TRADING REGULATORY CERTAINTY,
00:46:25TAX CERTAINTY, TRADE CERTAINTY
00:46:30IS BRINGING IN TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THE U.S. SO IT IS
00:46:34TO HELP WITH THOSE POLICIES. REP. FITZGERALD: THANK YOU FOR
00:46:38BEING HERE TODAY. I YIELD BACK. CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES
00:46:42THE RANKING MEMBER OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. LYNCH. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE
00:46:46MINUTES.
00:46:47REP. LYNCH: MR. SECRETARY, THANK
00:46:52YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:46:55THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY HAS DIRECT INFLUENCE ON THE
00:46:59ABILITY TO ADVISE THE PRESIDENT
00:47:01ON MATTERS OF AI FROM A
00:47:07REGULATORY STANDPOINT AS WELL AS
00:47:11IN NATIONAL SECURITY STANDPOINT.
00:47:14SOMETIMES I HEAR THE PRESIDENT
00:47:15TALK ABOUT AI AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING THE RANKING
00:47:20DEMOCRAT ON THIS COMMITTEE AND ON AI AND ON CRYPTO AND I LISTEN
00:47:24TO THE PRESIDENT AND I DO NOT
00:47:28BELIEVE HE HAS A GRASP OF WHAT
00:47:35WE ARE DEALING WITH WITH AI.
00:47:37I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK THE PRESIDENT COULD SPELL AI IF
00:47:41I GAVE HIM THE FIRST LETTER.
00:47:45HE CALLED IT A HOAX.
00:47:49YOU ARE IN LEADERSHIP AT TREASURY.
00:47:58A FAR MORE LOGICAL AND THOUGHTFUL THAN WHAT I'M HEARING
00:48:02FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
00:48:04AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON
00:48:06THE SPOT I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEVEN
00:48:13JET -- SUGGESTED SOME THINGS
00:48:17WITH REGARD TO AI THAT ARE
00:48:19CAUTIONARY AND WHEN I HEAR THE
00:48:21PRESIDENT SAY THIS IS ALL A HOAX
00:48:26, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT,
00:48:29DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT
00:48:32UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN WE TALK
00:48:33ABOUT AI IT'S NOT LIKE A CAR.
00:48:40SOMETIMES HE TALKS AND THOSE TURNS.
00:48:43WE ARE GROWING AI AND A LAB. AND NOW BASED ON STATEMENTS FROM
00:48:48ANTHROPIC AND OPENAI AND OTHERS,
00:48:52ELON MUSK, WE ARE HAVING A
00:48:58CONTROL PROBLEM.
00:49:02THIS INCIDENT WITH HUGGING FACE.
00:49:08WE HAVE LOST CONTROL. DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT
00:49:13UNDERSTANDS THAT IT IS NOT AS
00:49:17SIMPLE AS WHAT HE HAS DESCRIBED?
00:49:21DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT
00:49:26UNDERSTANDS THAT IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THE GOOD
00:49:30GUYS DEVELOP THE SUPER INTELLIGENCE OR THE BAD GUYS
00:49:32DEVELOP THE SUPER INTELLIGENCE IF YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF
00:49:35THAT ENTITY, IF IT HAS
00:49:40PREFERENCES, IN WAYS THAT IS
00:49:47INIMICAL TO THE EXISTENCE OF
00:49:49HUMANITY, IT WON'T MATTER.
00:49:57IT WILL BE A THREAT TO US.
00:50:03DOES THE PRESIDENT GET THAT, MR. SECRETARY?
00:50:07SEC. BESSENT: CONGRESSMAN, I DO
00:50:11TAKE EXCEPTION, IT DOES WETTER
00:50:15-- MATTER WHETHER THE GOOD GUYS OR THE BAD GUYS HAVE THIS AS A
00:50:19PERSON WHO MATTERS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA ON AI, IT MATTERS A GREAT DEAL.
00:50:23REP. LYNCH: BUT WE ARE HAVING
00:50:27CONTROL PROBLEMS. SO IF WE BUILD SOMETHING WE
00:50:31CAN'T CONTROL AND THE CHINESE
00:50:32BUILD SOMETHING YOU CAN CONTROL,
00:50:35THE ENTITY ITSELF IS A DANGER TO
00:50:37US ALL, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
00:50:43IF WE CREATE A SUPER INTELLIGENCE THAT IS BEYOND OUR
00:50:46CONTROL AND DOES NOT FOLLOW OUR
00:50:50INSTRUCTIONS, THE EVALUATING
00:50:53PIECE OF THIS.
00:50:58WITH THE VALUES THAT YOU HAVE,
00:51:01THAT WE HAVE IS A DEMOCRACY.
00:51:04THAT IS WHY IT HAS BEEN
00:51:06IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO FAR, YET WE HAVE THIS RACE.
00:51:14I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ON THIS.
00:51:17WE TALK ABOUT THIS RACE, THIS RACE AGAINST CHINA, WE CAN'T
00:51:21SLOW DOWN, WE NEED TO BEAT THEM.
00:51:25WE DON'T CONTROL THE ENTITY WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE AND NEITHER DOES CHINA.
00:51:38[INDISCERNIBLE]
00:51:40SEC. BESSENT: THEY HAD A BREACH
00:51:43AND SENT CHINESE WEAPONS PLANS BACK TO ANTHROPIC.
00:51:47REP. LYNCH: I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT
00:51:52BE ABLE TO TALK SENSE TO THE
00:51:54PRESIDENT ABOUT AI.
00:52:01SEC. BESSENT: THE PRESIDENT IS COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH JENSEN WONG THE CEO OF NVIDIA. [LAUGHTER]
00:52:06CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES
00:52:14THE GENTLEMAN. >> THANK YOU.
00:52:17SEC., THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:52:19THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON
00:52:25GETTING THAT BELL.
00:52:25SEC. BESSENT: THAT WAS YOUR
00:52:29WORK, CONGRESSMAN. >> WELL WE GOT IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
00:52:35I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REGULATIONS.
00:52:42$11 TRILLION, MORE THAN 40% OF
00:52:45THE FINANCING.
00:52:50SECRETARY, WHAT STEPS HAS
00:52:53TREASURY TAKEN ON FINANCIAL
00:52:57REGULATORS TO ENSURE OUR POLICIES CONTINUE TO ALLOW
00:53:01FOREIGN BANKS TO COMPETE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD HELPING THE
00:53:04U.S. REMAINS THE WORLD'S FINANCIAL SECTOR?
00:53:07SEC. BESSENT: THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
00:53:11WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL REGULATORY
00:53:14SYSTEM IN THAT WE HAVE THREE FEDERAL REGULATORS, THE FEDERAL
00:53:18RESERVE, THE FBI SEE, AND THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER.
00:53:24THEN THE STATE LEVEL REGULATIONS.
00:53:26WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE REGULATORS ALIGNED WITH
00:53:30BEST PRACTICES AND THE
00:53:36REGULATION IN THE SYSTEM AND THE SIZE OF THE BANKS.
00:53:39REP. GARBARINO: THAT'S GREAT. I KNOW THAT IS IMPORTANT.
00:53:48WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROTECTED BUT ACTUALLY STILL
00:53:51HAVE INVESTMENT SO I'M GLAD WE ARE DOING THAT. SEC. BESSENT: THAT IS WHY WE ARE
00:53:55TRYING TO UNIFY THE CAPITAL MARKETS TO BE MORE LIKE US.
00:53:57REP. GARBARINO: EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE LIKE US. [LAUGHTER]
00:54:09CLIENT TRADES TYPICALLY DO NOT COME OFF THE DECLARED BALANCE SHEET.
00:54:14THE SUBSIDIARIES OF FOREIGN PARENT COMPANIES MUST ALSO COMPLY.
00:54:24THE SPACE MUST CLEAR TRAITS ON
00:54:30THE BALANCE SHEET, I'M CONCERNED
00:54:37THAT MAJOR MARKET PARTICIPANTS
00:54:38BECAUSE ACCOUNTING COULD IMPACT,
00:54:45WE DO NOT WANT INTERNATIONAL
00:54:47STANDARDS THAT IMPACT THE TREASURY RECORDS.
00:54:53WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WEIGH IN
00:54:57BEFORE THE GO LIVE DATE?
00:55:00SEC. BESSENT: WE WOULD BE
00:55:05DEDICATED TO WORKING ON THIS WITH YOU KEEPING THE U.S.
00:55:10TREASURY MARKET THE DEEPEST, THE
00:55:12BROADEST WITH US. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
00:55:16PRIORITIZE BUT WE ALSO WANT TO
00:55:20PRIORITIZE.
00:55:21REP. GARBARINO: THANK YOU VERY
00:55:25MUCH FOR THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
00:55:31CONGRESS IS DELIVERED IN DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN
00:55:35DECENTRALIZED TECHNOLOGIES THAT
00:55:38DO NOT CURRENTLY CUSTOMIZE THE
00:55:45CONTROL TERM FACTION.
00:55:45HOW IS TREASURY ENSURING THOSE
00:55:50DO NOT IMPOSE INTERMEDIARY STYLE REQUIREMENTS ON SOFTWARE
00:55:53DEVELOPERS OR TECHNOLOGY PROVIDERS? SEC. BESSENT: WE ARE MAKING THE
00:55:57PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
00:56:01WE HAVE TAKEN SUBSTANTIAL INPUT FROM CONGRESS AND STAKEHOLDERS
00:56:04AS WE AIM TO KEEP AMERICA THE CRYPTO CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
00:56:07REP. GARBARINO: AGAIN, I JUST
00:56:10WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT SOME
00:56:15WERE EXCLUDED.
00:56:18LAST, I WANT TO RETURN TO RETIREMENT SECURITY.
00:56:27MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMERICANS TO SAFELY RETIRE.
00:56:30CAN YOU PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON HOW
00:56:33THOSE EFFORTS FIT INTO THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDER?
00:56:38SEC. BESSENT: WE ARE WORKING TO
00:56:41IMPLEMENT THAT AND TO DO THAT IN
00:56:45A SAFE AND SOUND MANNER AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
00:56:48REP. GARBARINO: OK, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE?
00:56:51SEC. BESSENT: MY STUFF AT CONTACT YOUR STAFF.
00:56:54REP. GARBARINO: OK, I APPRECIATE
00:57:00THAT, MR. SECRETARY. I YIELD BACK. CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES
00:57:04THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:57:09THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
00:57:12I HAVE SO MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IN THE SHORT TERM THAT I
00:57:16HAVE.
00:57:21I AM HIGHLIGHTING THE CONCERNS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE, THE CRIPPLED ECONOMY.
00:57:25THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE IRAN
00:57:29WAR, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING EVERY DAY TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
00:57:33IT IS THE ENDLESS CORRUPTION AND
00:57:37THE SELLING OFF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S PRIVATE EARNINGS FOR
00:57:40THE BENEFIT OF TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY.
00:57:44IN JUST THE LAST FEW DAYS I
00:57:47COULDN'T BELIEVE THE NEWS THAT
00:57:49WAS COMING OUT, THAT JARED
00:57:53KUSHNER WAS DOING HIS OWN
00:57:55BUSINESS DEALS WHEN HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ENGAGING IN
00:57:59MIDDLE EAST PEACE TALKS.
00:58:04A POST WEDDING CELEBRATION WITH A RUSSIAN OLIGARCH.
00:58:09THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OFFERING FROM
00:58:17HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS .
00:58:21THE CORRUPTION IS UNPRECEDENTED IN EVERY WAY.
00:58:25THAT HAS CONSEQUENCES TO AMERICANS.
00:58:29WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT JANUARY 6 VIOLENT
00:58:33INSURRECTIONISTS BEING PAID OUT.
00:58:37IN A DEAL THAT YOU ARE
00:58:40OVERSEEING WITH THE IRS FROM --
00:58:45EXEMPTING THE TRUMP FAMILY FROM ANY FINES THEY MIGHT HAVE
00:58:49COMMITTED IN THE -- CRIMES THEY MIGHT HAVE COMMITTED IN THE PAST.
00:58:55I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE ANY
00:58:59INFORMATION ON THIS.
00:59:00CAN YOU COMMIT RIGHT NOW TODAY
00:59:04THAT THERE IS OVERSEEING
00:59:11FEEDBACK?
00:59:12SEC. BESSENT: YOU ARE CONFUSED,
00:59:16I DIDN'T OVERSEE IT. IT IS DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:59:19JUSTICE AND WE TAKE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
00:59:22REP. PETTERSEN: BUT MR. SECRETARY, YOU OVERSEE THE IRS.
00:59:26YOU OVERSEE THE DOLLARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE TREASURY.
00:59:29SEC. BESSENT: THEY SUPERSEDE THAT AUTHORITY.
00:59:31REP. PETTERSEN: MR. SECRETARY,
00:59:33YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE
00:59:36AMERICAN PEOPLE'S TAX DOLLARS. CAN YOU COMMIT THAT YOU WILL NOT DISTRIBUTE ANY OF THESE FUNDS?
00:59:41SEC. BESSENT: IT IS THE SUBJECT
00:59:45OF LITIGATION SO I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT I'M NOT SURE WHICH FUNDS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
00:59:48REP. PETTERSEN: MR. SECRETARY,
00:59:51ANY FUNDS THAT WOULD PAY OUT
00:59:54JANUARY 6 INSURRECTIONISTS.
00:59:57ANY TAXPAYER DOLLARS GOING OUT TO PAY OUT THESE INSURRECTIONISTS.
01:00:02AS WELL AS A BILL EXEMPTING TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY FROM ANY
01:00:06INVESTIGATIONS WITH THOSE DEALINGS. SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, THAT IS IN
01:00:10LITIGATION, BUT THAT IS A MATTER FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. REP. PETTERSEN: MR. SECRETARY.
01:00:20I AM SPEAKING TO PEOPLE DIRECTLY ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THIS
01:00:24ADMINISTRATION.
01:00:25I'M SHOCKED WHEN I SEE YOU ON TV
01:00:30ABOUT WHAT THE ECONOMY HAS DONE,
01:00:33THE ECONOMY IS GETTING BETTER, THAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
01:00:38PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET, THE SKYROCKETING
01:00:41TARIFFS ARE HITTING AN AVERAGE OF $25,000 A MONTH.
01:00:46IN COLORADO, THERE ARE HUGE
01:00:52IMPLICATIONS FOR THE TRADE WAR THAT TRUMP HAS PURSUED.
01:00:5450% TARIFFS ON PRODUCTS THAT WE
01:00:59RELY ON.
01:01:03OUR FAMILIES GETTING HEALTH CARE
01:01:06, OUR ECONOMY FROM THOSE POLICIES.
01:01:18YOU KNOW BETTER IN THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE PEOPLE ACROSS
01:01:22THIS COUNTRY AND YET YOU
01:01:25CONTINUE TO STAND WITH TRUMP'S
01:01:29TALKING POINTS. WE NEED BETTER.
01:01:32WE NEED A CHECK ON DONALD TRUMP.
01:01:38WE DON'T HAVE ANY.
01:01:41MR. SECRETARY, I WANT TO READ A
01:01:48COUPLE OF STORIES, I HAVE
01:01:49COUNTLESS STORIES FROM PEOPLE
01:01:53ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES EVERY DAY.
01:01:55MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE CHILD CARE
01:02:00COSTS, GROCERY BILLS THAT GO UP EVERY WEEK.
01:02:05THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. .
01:02:09CHAIR HILL: THE CHAIRWOMAN'S
01:02:12TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS
01:02:16RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> MR. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR
01:02:20BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR
01:02:21YOUR LEADERSHIP ON OPERATION
01:02:25ECONOMIC OUTCAST, COULD YOU
01:02:27DESCRIBE THAT THE IMPACT IT IS
01:02:32HAVING ONE OF THE IRANIAN ECONOMY?
01:02:33SEC. BESSENT: I WILL JUST QUOTE
01:02:36THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN, THE SPEAKER OF THE PARLIAMENT IN THE
01:02:39CENTRAL BANK THAT THE ECONOMY IS IN DIRE STRAITS.
01:02:49WE HAVE SEEN THE ECONOMY
01:02:52COLLAPSED WITH THE ECONOMY, THEY
01:03:05HAVE GAS LINES THAT THEY HAVE TO
01:03:10WAIT FOR FUEL. THE ECONOMIC OUTCAST IS A
01:03:13COMBINATION OF THE BLOCKADE AND THE MONTHS THAT WE HAVE SPENT
01:03:17MAPPING THE NODES THROUGH THE
01:03:18PAYMENT SYSTEM THAT WE ARE CRACKING DOWN ON THEM.
01:03:24AND I BELIEVE THESE VIOLENT OUTBURSTS WE ARE SEEING FROM THEM.
01:03:28REP. LAWLER: APPRECIATE IT.
01:03:31KEEP UP THE STRONG WORK ON THAT FRONT.
01:03:33ONE OTHER ISSUE RELATED TO
01:03:38RESTITUTION, THERE IS GROWING EVIDENCE THAT CERTAIN SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS HOLDING ASSETS
01:03:43BELONGING TO THOSE NEVER
01:03:45ACCOUNTED FOR OR INCLUDED IN THE
01:03:49ORIGINAL 1998 SWISS BANK SETTLEMENT.
01:03:52MR. SECRETARY, GIVEN THAT WE ARE
01:03:56OVERSEEING MATTERS OF THIS
01:04:00RECOVERY, ARE YOU AWARE OF THESE UNACCOUNTED FOR ACCOUNTS?
01:04:04SEC. BESSENT: YES.
01:04:05REP. LAWLER: DO YOU BELIEVE IT
01:04:09WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO REVISIT OR PRESS FOR THE SETTLEMENT TO BE
01:04:13REOPENED OR EXPANDED TO ENSURE
01:04:15THESE ASSETS ARE RETURNED TO SURVIVORS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS?
01:04:24TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS VERY
01:04:25ACTIVE IN THE AI IS, BOTH WITHIN
01:04:28THE FINANCIAL SECTOR ITSELF AND MORE BROADLY IN THE TECH STACK.
01:04:32CAN YOU SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT TREASURY'S INVOLVEMENT WITH EFFORTS TO CREATE A SIGN
01:04:35STANDARDS FOR AI DEVELOPERS AND HOW BANK SHOULD BE THINKING
01:04:39ABOUT AI WITHIN THEIR INSTITUTIONS?
01:04:41>> YES, SO AS I SAID EARLIER,
01:04:45THIS BEGAN BACK IN MARCH AND WE
01:04:48HAVE ENGAGED ON A DAILY, WEEKLY,
01:04:51AND MONTHLY BASIS, WE BEGAN WITH
01:04:54THE LARGEST BANKS AND WITH THEIR
01:04:59CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICERS, WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP, AND WE HAVE
01:05:03TRANSFERRED MUCH OF THAT INTO
01:05:07PROJECT GOLD EAGLE WHICH IS A
01:05:10CLEARINGHOUSE FOR EVERYTHING
01:05:13THAT WE LEARN ABOUT RESILIENCY WITHIN THIS, AND WE CONTINUE TO
01:05:16ENGAGE WITH THEM, AND I CAN TELL
01:05:18YOU THAT THE FINANCIAL SECTOR,
01:05:22FROM THE LARGEST BANKS TO THE SMALLEST BANKS, FROM DOMESTIC
01:05:25BANKS TO INTERNATIONAL BANKS,
01:05:27HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD PARTNERS, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON RESILIENCY.
01:05:31>> APPRECIATED.
01:05:35THE EUROPEAN UNION HAS BEEN ATTEMPTING TO ASSERT REGULATORY
01:05:38AUTHORITY ON AMERICAN ENTERPRISE THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE
01:05:42DIRECTIVE. IT WOULD FORCE U.S. COMPANIES,
01:05:44MANY WITH ONLY MODEST EUROPEAN EXPOSURE, TO COMPLY WITH E.U.
01:05:49MANDATED SUPPLY CHAIN AUDITS, LIABILITY STANDARDS AND ITS
01:05:51SPEED DRIVEN OPERATIONAL CHANGES.
01:05:55GIVEN THE ADMINISTRATION STATED GOAL OF RESTORING STRONG ECONOMIC GROWTH, HOW DO YOU
01:05:59ASSESS THE IMPACT OF THIS KIND OF FOREIGN REGULATORY OVERREACH
01:06:03ON AMERICA'S ABILITY TO REACH A SUSTAINED REAPER'S GROWTH RATE?
01:06:07SEC. BESSENT: CONGRESSMAN, I
01:06:11USED TO BE A LIFEGUARD AND ONE OF THE FIRST THING THEY TEACH
01:06:14YOU IN LIKE GUARDING IS A DROWNING PERSON TRIES TO GRAB YOU AND PULL YOU DOWN WITH THEM.
01:06:18ON THE G20, THE AGENDA INCLUDE
01:06:24SUBSTANTIAL DEREGULATION AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL FOLLOW THE
01:06:28FANTASTIC REPORT FROM THE FORMER
01:06:28HEAD OF THE ECB, MARIO DRUGGIE,
01:06:32ON HOW THEY CAN SOLVE THE GROWTH PROBLEMS, BUT THE WAY TO DO IT
01:06:34IS NOT TO ENCUMBER THE DYNAMIC
01:06:39ECONOMIES, IS FOR THEM TO FREE THEMSELVES.
01:06:42REP. LAWLER: IN NEW YORK AND
01:06:48CALIFORNIA, THEY HAVE AGGRESSIVE
01:06:51PRACTICES TO TRY TO SWEEP UNCLAIMED PROPERTY INTO THE
01:06:55STATE TO EFFECTIVELY PAY FOR THEIR BLOATED BUDGETS.
01:06:59HOW ARE YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION GOING TO PROTECT
01:07:02THE TRUMP ACCOUNTS FROM BEING SWEPT UP BY CALIFORNIA AND NEW
01:07:06YORK IN THESE GRANDIOSE ESCHEAT
01:07:11TREATMENT PRACTICES THAT THEY HAVE PUT FORTH.
01:07:14WE ARE WORKING ON THE SAFER ACT AND WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
01:07:17SEC. BESSENT: YES, THAT COULD BE
01:07:21A PROBLEM, AGAIN, DROWNING PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL EVERYONE DOWN WITH THEM.
01:07:24>> LET ME ASK YOU TO RESPOND TO
01:07:29MR. LAWLER IN WRITING ON THAT QUESTION. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE RANKING
01:07:33MEMBER MR. GREEN.
01:07:36YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FIVE MINUTES.
01:07:37>> THANK YOU FOR APPEARING
01:07:41TODAY, MR. SECRETARY. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, AT THE
01:07:44PURCHASE OF THE MEME COIN, WHAT
01:07:46DOES ONE GET TO EVIDENCE THE PURCHASE?
01:07:48SEC. BESSENT: I'M SORRY?
01:07:51>> A PERSON PURCHASING A MEME
01:07:56COIN, AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE
01:07:58YOU GET SOMETHING TO EVIDENCE THE PURCHASE?
01:08:00SEC. BESSENT: I ASSUME IT IS AN ELECTRONIC RECEIPT.
01:08:03>> ELECTRONIC RECEIPT?
01:08:07AND HOW DOES ONE ACQUIRE VALUE AFTER HAVING PURCHASED THE MEME COIN?
01:08:11SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, VALUE CAN TAKE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
01:08:15HOW DO YOU --
01:08:18>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MEME
01:08:22COIN RIGHT NOW. SEC. BESSENT: YOU WOULD GET IT
01:08:26THROUGH APPRECIATION, OR MANY PEOPLE MAY JUST BITE FOR CAPITAL STABILITY.
01:08:36REP. GREEN:. SOME PEOPLE BITE ASSUMING THAT
01:08:39WILL MAKE SOME SORT OF PROFIT OFF OF A PURCHASE AND IS IT FAIR
01:08:43TO SAY THAT THAT PROFIT IN MANY
01:08:44INSTANCES WILL BE BASED ON
01:08:50PURCHASED BY ANOTHER PERSON AT A HIGHER PRICE?
01:08:56THE PRESIDENT'S DOLLAR MEME COIN ALLOWED HIM TO MAKE $635 BILLION
01:09:00LAST YEAR.
01:09:03INVESTORS LOST $3.81 BILLION.
01:09:07THE COIN FELL FROM $75 AT
01:09:09LAUNCHING TO $1.65.
01:09:14THOSE PURCHASES THAT WERE MADE
01:09:18BY PERSONS BUYING THE MEME COIN,
01:09:24THEY PURCHASED A DIGITAL TOKEN WHICH AMOUNTS TO NOTHING.
01:09:29THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING BEYOND
01:09:31THE TOKEN IN THE WALLET. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT.
01:09:38AND THERE IS THIS TERM THAT I'M NOT FOND OF, BUT IT'S A TERM
01:09:42THAT UTILIZED. THE TERM IS THE GREATER FOOL
01:09:46THEORY. IT TAKES SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO PAY MORE FOR NOTHING THAN THE
01:09:51ORIGINAL INVESTOR FOR THE PERSON
01:09:54TO MAKE A PROFIT.
01:09:59IT'S SPECULATIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO CALLED SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S CALLED A PONZI SCHEME.
01:10:09THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN LEGALIZED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.
01:10:11PONZI SCHEME'S HALVED COST
01:10:16PERSONS LOTS -- HAVE COST PERSONS LOTS OF MONEY, AND
01:10:20PEOPLE WHO IMPOSE THEM HAVE GONE TO JAIL. THEY'VE BEEN PROSECUTED.
01:10:25BUT IN THE TRUMP WORLD, WE NOW
01:10:27HAVE LEGALIZED THIS SCAM TO THE
01:10:30EXTENT THAT WHEN A PERSON BUYS
01:10:32THE TRUNK COIN, THERE'S A
01:10:36TRANSACTION FEE THAT IS PAID,
01:10:39BUT WHEN IT IS SOLD THERE'S A TRANSACTION FEE.
01:10:43THE PRESIDENT MAKES MONEY ON THE PURCHASE AND ON THE SALE, AND ON
01:10:47THE PERSON THAT HAD THE SALE,
01:10:50TAKING A FEW OF THESE COINS AT THE GENESIS OF THIS PROCESS, HE
01:10:53MAKES A PROFIT WHEN IT GOES UP,
01:10:56AND IF HE TAKES THIS PROFIT OFF
01:10:58THE TOP, AS OTHER INVESTORS DO
01:11:02WITH BUYING EARLY, THEY DO WELL
01:11:06BUT THE MASSES OF PEOPLE, THEY
01:11:09ARE THE PEOPLE LOSING THE $3.81 BILLION.
01:11:13THESE SCHEMES HAVE NOT
01:11:17TRADITIONALLY BEEN LEGAL.
01:11:20HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY LEGALIZING
01:11:24THESE PONZI SCHEMES?
01:11:25SEC. BESSENT: WELL,
01:11:29REPRESENTATIVE, I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE
01:11:33CRITERIA FOR A PONZI SCHEME. A PONZI SCHEME IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF FINANCING.
01:11:37REP. GREEN: PARDON ME FOR
01:11:43INTERRUPTING, BUT EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IT DIFFERS FROM A PONZI SCHEME, WHEN THE PROFITS THAT
01:11:45ARE MADE ARE DEPENDENT UPON
01:11:48SOMEONE ELSE PAYING MORE FOR WHAT YOU PURCHASED, WHICH IS
01:11:53NOTHING. WE WILL CALL IT A DIGITAL TOKEN.
01:11:56HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A
01:12:00PONZI SCHEME?
01:12:01SEC. BESSENT: EVERY MARKET IS
01:12:05DEPENDENT, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY, ON SOMEONE PAY MORE.
01:12:08WHETHER YOU SELL --
01:12:10REP. GREEN: SIR, IF I MAY, IF IT
01:12:14IS GOLD, YOU HAVE A TANGIBLE ASSET. THERE ARE TANGIBLE ASSETS.
01:12:19THIS IS AN INTANGIBLE ASSET. IT DOESN'T EXIST, EXCEPT IN THE MINDS OF --
01:12:24SEC. BESSENT: EQUITIES AND BONDS
01:12:28ARE AN INTANGIBLE ASSET. REP. GREEN: WELL, THIS IS ONE
01:12:32THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS USED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE.
01:12:35I WOULD HOPE THAT OUR COUNTRY WILL SEE THAT THE PRESIDENT IS A
01:12:37CORRUPT PERSON. I YIELD BACK.
01:12:39>> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE
01:12:43CHAIR OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND INSURANCE, YOUR
01:12:47RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:12:51MR. SECRETARY, WHEN YOU APPEAR BEFORE THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS
01:12:54COMMITTEE IN JUNE, THE ISSUE OF
01:12:57THIRD-PARTY LITIGATION FINANCING WAS RACE. YOU SAID AT THE TIME YOU LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM ON
01:13:01THE ISSUE, ESPECIALLY HER FOR MONEY IS COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM MUST SPONSOR LAWSUITS AND PAYING
01:13:04NO TAXES.
01:13:07MORE RECENTLY YOU WARNED WALL
01:13:10STREET ON THAT, QUOTE, TEXTURAL
01:13:11SHOULD REWARD INVESTMENT, NOT
01:13:14ABUSIVE FINANCIAL ENGINEERING, AND SAID TREASURY WOULD NOT
01:13:19TOLERATE FINANCIAL PRODUCTS DESIGNED TO EXPLOIT THE TAX CODE .
01:13:23I THINK THAT SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBES THIRD-PARTY LITIGATION
01:13:26TO A T. THESE TRANSACTIONS ALLOW
01:13:28INVESTORS TO TAKE ORDINARY INCOME FROM LITIGATION
01:13:32RECOVERIES AND CONVERTED INTO CAPITAL GAINS INCOME THROUGH
01:13:36FINANCIAL PHYSICAL ENGINEERING. MR. SECRETARY, WE COMMIT TO
01:13:39HAVING THE TREASURY AND THE IRS EXAMINE THE TAX TREATMENT OF PARTY LITIGATION FINANCING
01:13:45INCLUDING ARRANGEMENTS THAT HAVE FOREIGN INVESTORS?
01:13:48I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'VE GOT SOVEREIGN GROWTH FUNDS THAT ARE GAINING -- GAMING OUR JUSTICE
01:13:53SYSTEM IN GETTING THESE NUCLEAR VERDICTS AND THEN PAYING
01:13:57THEMSELVES BACK BIG TIME.
01:13:57SO MY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU WORK
01:14:02WITH US TO ENSURE THAT TPL
01:14:05PROCEEDS ARE SUBJECT TO THE APPROPRIATE U.S. TAX TREATMENT?
01:14:09SEC. BESSENT: I LOOK FORWARD TO
01:14:13WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON THAT AND I HAVE LONG BELIEVED
01:14:16THAT THIS IS WITHIN OUR LEGAL
01:14:20AND FINANCIAL SYSTEM. IT SHOULD BE STATED THAT YOU LOOK AT HOME INSURANCE PREMIUMS OF AMERICA, THEY HAVE BEEN
01:14:25SKYROCKETING, ALSO THIRD-PARTY
01:14:28LITIGATION FINANCING IS DRIVING THAT.
01:14:31SECOND QUESTION, MR. SECRETARY, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES TODAY HAVE
01:14:34CLAIMED THAT CRYPTO WILL DESTABILIZE THE U.S. DOLLAR.
01:14:38I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW A PAYMENT STABLE COIN UNDER
01:14:41THE GENIUS ACT THAT MUST BE
01:14:42BACKED DOLLAR BY DOLLAR IN THE
01:14:46U.S. FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, HOW COULD THAT UNDERMINE THE VERY DOLLAR THAT IT IS TIED TO?
01:14:51I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD TO IMPLEMENT GENIUS.
01:14:54HOW TO EXPECT THE STATUTORY FRAMEWORK FOR STABLE COINS TO
01:14:57STRENGTHEN THE DOLLAR'S POSITION AS THE WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY,
01:15:00WHICH IS WHEN THE REASONS WE ALL
01:15:02VOTED FOR, HOW TO INCREASE THE
01:15:05GLOBAL DEMAND FOR DOLLAR-DENOMINATED ASSETS AND
01:15:07ENSURE THIS EMERGING TECHNOLOGY ULTIMATELY REINFORCES, NOT
01:15:11STRENGTHENS, -- NOT WEAKENS THE STRENGTH OF THE U.S. DOLLAR?
01:15:14SEC. BESSENT: THE HIGHEST DEMAND
01:15:17STABLE COINS ARE INDEED U.S. DOLLAR BACK.
01:15:21WE BELIEVE THAT AS WE FINISH THE RULEMAKING, WHICH WE ARE IN THE
01:15:24MIDST OF NOW, AND WORKING ON CONGRESSIONAL INTENT, AND
01:15:28SPEAKING TO THE STAKEHOLDERS COME THAT WE WILL SEE AN
01:15:31INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR U.S. SAFE
01:15:36HAVEN ASSETS, U.S. DOLLAR ASSETS, ESPECIALLY TREASURY BILLS, AND THAT WILL LIKELY
01:15:41ADDRESS THE U.S. DOLLAR VIS-A-VIS OTHER CURRENCIES,
01:15:46ESPECIALLY AS OTHER COUNTRIES IMPLEMENT CENTRAL-BANK DIGITAL
01:15:50CURRENCIES WHICH COULD BE SEIZED
01:15:52AT ANY MOMENT AS WE HAVE SEEN IN NUMEROUS CASES.
01:15:55>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
01:15:58AS YOU KNOW THE BANK SECRECY ACT IS THE TALK REGULATORY CALL
01:16:02CENTER FOR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND I'M PLEASED
01:16:06THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT MODERNIZING A CONTROLS WITH THE NEW PROGRAM
01:16:10RULE. WHEN IT COMES OUT, WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH TO EXCELLENT CHANGE SUPERVISOR PRACTICE ON
01:16:14THE GROUND LEVEL TO FOCUS ON RISK? SEC. BESSENT: YES.
01:16:19WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT MANY
01:16:23OF THE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORTS THAT WE SEE OR EVEN EX
01:16:27POST, AND MOST -- MUCH TO MY DISMAY WHEN I ARRIVED AT
01:16:31TREASURE, WE ALSO SAW THAT MANY
01:16:32OF THE SARS WHICH ARE IN THE
01:16:38HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO MILLIONS THAT ARE FILED EVERY YEAR IN A DIGITAL FILING
01:16:42CABINET, WE ARE OPERATIONALIZING
01:16:45FENCE IN SO THAT WE CAN BOTH FOLLOW THE LEADS, FOLLOW
01:16:48PATHWAYS ON THOSE, AND COMMUNICATE WITH LOCAL LAW
01:16:53ENFORCEMENT IN A MORE ROBUST WAY.
01:16:54>> I WANT TO TOUCH ON COMMUNITY
01:16:58BANKS WHICH DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR LARGER COMPLIANCE
01:17:01TEAMS, AND A MONTH CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
01:17:03A THRESHOLD INCREASE WOULD MEANINGFULLY REDUCE THE
01:17:07COMPLIANCE BURDEN FOR THEM. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN INCLUDE IN THE FINAL AML RULE?
01:17:10SEC. BESSENT: WE ARE WORKING ON
01:17:14THAT NOW AND WE ARE WORKING ON BOTH PERHAPS A THRESHOLD
01:17:17INCREASE, BASED ON THE LENGTH OF
01:17:22TIME THE CUSTOMER HAS BEEN WITH
01:17:24AN INSTITUTION, AND AS YOU KNOW,
01:17:27NO ONE KNOWS OUR CUSTOMERS BETTER THAN SMALL COMMUNITY BANKS.
01:17:32SO HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND THE FACT THAT THEY DO KNOW THE CUSTOMER, THEY SEE
01:17:37THEM, AS OPPOSED TO, WE FIND
01:17:40THAT MOST OF THE EFFICIENCIES OR
01:17:45WITH A VERY LARGE BANKS. >> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZE THE
01:17:50RANKING NUMBER OF THE SUPPLEMENT HOUSING AND INSURANCE, YOU ARE
01:17:54RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:18:01THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
01:18:07THE PRESIDENT VOWED AT THE
01:18:10REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, MIDTERM
01:18:17CONVENTION IN DALLAS, THAT HE
01:18:20WOULD GIVE $5,000 TO EACH
01:18:25AMERICAN IF REPUBLICANS WIN THE
01:18:30ELECTION.
01:18:34HE CALLED IT A TRUMP DIVIDEND.
01:18:41FIRST OF ALL, I'M CONCERNED
01:18:47ABOUT THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING
01:18:49IN TERMS OF ONE PART OF OUR
01:18:53GOVERNMENT TAKING COMPLETE CONTROL OVER OUR GOVERNMENT, AND
01:18:57WE KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE THIS
01:19:01HAPPEN BEFORE, BUT DO YOU
01:19:06BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN
01:19:12MAKE A DECLARATION ABOUT THIGH
01:19:17THE DOLLARS FOR EACH AMERICAN --
01:19:19$5,000 FOR EACH AMERICAN WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF CONGRESS?
01:19:22SEC. BESSENT: WE ARE CURRENTLY
01:19:26EXAMINING THAT AT TREASURY AND WHEN THE REPUBLICANS WIN IN NOVEMBER, IF WE NEED TO, I LOOK
01:19:30FORWARD TO WORKING WITH SPEAKER JOHNSON ON IT. REP. CLEAVER: ON WHAT?
01:19:34SEC. BESSENT: IF NECESSARY, ON
01:19:38THE $5,000 DIVIDEND. REP. CLEAVER: SO IT IS A THING?
01:19:41SEC. BESSENT: I'M NOT SURE WHAT
01:19:43"A THING" MEANS.
01:19:46REP. CLEAVER: IS A THING WHEN IT
01:19:48IS REAL.
01:19:50THE PRESIDENT'S DECLARATION
01:19:56ABOUT $5,000 PER AMERICAN IS REAL, SO IT HAS BEEN RESEARCHED --
01:19:59SEC. BESSENT: THE PRESIDENT'S INTENT IS VERY REAL.
01:20:03REP. CLEAVER: AS TREASURY
01:20:06SECRETARY, DO YOU HAVE ANY
01:20:09APPREHENSIONS ABOUT A $1.8
01:20:12TRILLION DEFICIT THAT WOULD BE
01:20:18IMPACTED EVEN MORE NEGATIVELY IF
01:20:22EVERY AMERICAN RECEIVES $5,000 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
01:20:24SEC. BESSENT: FIRST OF ALL, I
01:20:28THINK PUTTING MORE MONEY IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S POCKET SHOULD
01:20:31BE AN OBJECTIVE FOR EVERYONE,
01:20:33AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE WAYS TO
01:20:35DO IT THAT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE
01:20:40DEFICIT. REP. CLEAVER: AND WAYS TO DO IT
01:20:43WITHOUT INVOLVING CONGRESS? SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, IF CONGRESS
01:20:47IS NEEDED, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH SPEAKER JOHNSON. IF NOT, THEN NOT.
01:20:52REP. CLEAVER: SPENDING BEGINS IN
01:20:54THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
01:20:59AND $5,000 PER PERSON WOULD SEEM
01:21:01TO ME WOULD HAVE TO MOVE THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
01:21:05WE ARE SEEING A SLOW AND IN MY
01:21:10ESTIMATION, DANGEROUS REDUCTION
01:21:15IN THE EQUALITY OF THE THREE
01:21:17BRANCHES OF THE GOVERNMENT.
01:21:20AND I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT 1973,
01:21:24THE WAR POWERS ACT, THE BOMBING
01:21:29WAS SECRETLY TAKING PLACE IN CAMBODIA WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF PEOPLE IN CONGRESS.
01:21:34AND SO I'M NOT SURE -- WELL, I'M
01:21:40ASSUMING YOU'RE MEETING WITH SPEAKER JOHNSON NOW, WORKING OUT SOME DETAILS.
01:21:45SEC. BESSENT: SORRY.
01:21:48REP. CLEAVER: ARE YOU WORKING ON
01:21:53DETAILS WITH SPEAKER JOHNSON ON THE $5,000? SEC. BESSENT: IF IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT WE NEED CONGRESSIONAL
01:21:58AUTHORITY, I WILL MEET WITH SPEAKER JOHNSON. AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
01:22:02REP. CLEAVER: THERE WAS ALSO
01:22:06PLEDGE FOR $2000 BEFORE THIS BY
01:22:10THE PRESIDENT, AND THAT'S CONCERNING.
01:22:15MY TIME IS GONE, BUT I'M VERY
01:22:18CONCERNED ABOUT THIS UNCHECKED
01:22:22SUPER INTELLIGENCE WHEN PEOPLE
01:22:25ARE DECLARING THAT IT IS AN
01:22:28EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO HUMANITY.
01:22:32SENATOR KENNEDY HAS SUGGESTED
01:22:37THAT WE PASSED SOME KIND OF LAW
01:22:39THAT WOULD REQUIRE A KILL SWITCH .
01:22:42>> ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? SEC. BESSENT: I'M NOT, SIR.
01:22:46REP. CLEAVER: BASED ON WHAT THE
01:22:49SENATOR HAS SUGGESTED, IT WOULD BE THE SWITCH THAT WOULD BE THE
01:22:52ULTIMATE SWITCH THAT WOULD SHUT
01:22:54DOWN AI IF THIS THREAT HAS
01:23:00SURFACE.
01:23:03>> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS
01:23:08EXPIRED. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IOWA.
01:23:12MR. ANNAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
01:23:15>> SEC. BESSENT, THANK YOU FOR
01:23:18SPINNING TIME WITH US HERE TODAY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THANK YOU
01:23:22FOR GOING TO PLACES LIKE IOWA AND HEARING FRONTLINE FOLKS SHARE WITH YOU HOW THE
01:23:25INVESTMENT OF RULE CAPITAL,
01:23:30WHICH YOU HAVE DONE, HAS HAVE -- HELPED IMPACT LOCAL LENDERS,
01:23:34WHERE THE BANKS, CREDIT UNIONS, TAKE ROOT AND REALLY GROW.
01:23:38YOU SPENT SOME TIME RECENTLY IN DES MOINES AND YOU HEARD DIRECTLY FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE
01:23:42SAID THE LENDING OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP HERE AND THE
01:23:46ROLE BACK IN REGULATION IS HELPING THEM GROW BUSINESSES.
01:23:52WE HAD COMPANIES HAVE THEIR BEST YEAR EVER AS A DIRECT RESULT OF
01:23:55THE TAX CUTS BUT THE ROLLBACK OF
01:23:59REDTAPE. THANKS FOR HIM FROM FOLKS RIGHT
01:24:02IN THE MIDDLE OF AMERICA ON HOW MUCH THIS HELPS GROW THE HEART OF THE HEARTLAND.
01:24:06SEC. BESSENT: IT IS A PLEASURE
01:24:10TO BE THERE AND IT IS REALLY A TALE OF TWO STATES.
01:24:11I HAVE BEEN IN MINNESOTA WHICH
01:24:17IS TOP-FIVE FOR CORPORATE INCOME TAX, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
01:24:21LEAVING, AND THE BUSINESSES AS
01:24:26OPPOSED TO IOWA WHICH IS BOOMING. REP. NUNN: I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
01:24:29AND THANK MY COLLEAGUE ACROSS
01:24:31THE AISLE FOR EFFORTS WE'VE DONE ON THINGS LIKE RURAL HOUSING.
01:24:35THIS IS AN AREA WE ARE MAKING SURE ALL AMERICA GETS THE OPPORTUNITY HAVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
01:24:43THE TREASURY HAS BEEN A PART IN MAKING SURE OUR LOCAL LENDERS HAVE THE ACCESS TO CAPITAL
01:24:47NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT SUCCESSFUL. I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TODAY ON
01:24:51SOMETHING I THINK IS REALLY
01:24:51DRIVEN WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE ON
01:24:57THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE. WE LET ON CRYPTO AND DIGITAL
01:24:59ASSETS AND NOW WERE LOOKING AT
01:25:02THIS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THAT HAS EXPLODED IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE.
01:25:05OUR COMMITTEE HAS PASSED
01:25:08UNANIMOUSLY MY AI PLAN ACT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WAYS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN LEARN
01:25:12FROM WHAT IS HAPPENING BOTH IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHILE AT THE
01:25:15SAME TIME NOT PUTTING
01:25:19PROHIBITIVE RESTRICTIONS ON INNOVATION HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:25:22I ALSO THINK IT IS UNIQUE THE TREASURY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HELP ASSUAGE AND AMERICA
01:25:26FIRST INNOVATION WHILE STEMMING
01:25:29THE TIDE FROM GROUPS LIKE CHINA,
01:25:32NEAR COMPETITOR IN THAT SPACE, FROM GETTING TACTICAL ADVANTAGES
01:25:35IN THE AI SPACE. THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR MAKING SURE THAT CHIPS ARE MADE HERE IN
01:25:38THE UNITED DATE, TO ALSO ENSURING THAT FOREIGN ACTORS
01:25:42DON'T TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
01:25:45LEAPFROG AMERICA'S FRONTIER AI MODELS.
01:25:50SEC. BESSENT, I WONDER IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO US ABOUT WHAT THE
01:25:53TREASURY IS DOING TO HELP KEEP AMERICA'S COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE,
01:25:57INCREASE OUR INNOVATION, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, AS WAS NOTED
01:26:01HERE, NOT ALLOWING TECHNOLOGY TO GET AHEAD OF OUR CAPABILITY TO
01:26:04BEST HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SEC. BESSENT: THANK YOU FOR THAT
01:26:08QUESTION. WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE
01:26:10OPTIMAL GROWTH RATE SO WE ARE
01:26:13SOLVING FOR GROWTH FOR BOTH THE
01:26:17ANIMATION AND SAFETY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR
01:26:21MORE THAN SIX MONTHS WITH LARGE
01:26:24LANGUAGE MODEL SINCE THE RELEASE OF MYTHOS WHICH WAS THE FIRST OF
01:26:27WHAT I WOULD SAY IS A STEP UP IN
01:26:31INCREASE IN AGI OR AI AS WE APPROACH AGI.
01:26:36ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY IS
01:26:40THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP MORE OF
01:26:42AN OPEN SOURCE OR OPEN SOURCE MODELS IN THE U.S.
01:26:47WE CAN'T LET THESE LABS HAVE
01:26:52REGULATORY CAPTURE BECAUSE THAT WILL STOP INNOVATION.
01:26:54ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN PUSH BACK AGAINST CHINA, BECAUSE THE
01:26:58CHINESE MODELS HAVE BEEN
01:26:58DISTILLED FROM THE U.S. MODELS,
01:27:03WHICH IS A SCIENTIFIC WORD FOR STEEL.
01:27:06THE MORE WE DEVELOP OUR OWN OPEN SOURCE MODELS HERE, OR OPEN
01:27:09MODELS HERE, THEN WE WILL BE
01:27:12ABLE TO EVENTUALLY, THE CHINESE
01:27:16MODELS, PEOPLE WILL NOT USE THEM, BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU ARE
01:27:20SEEING MANY OF THE CHINESE
01:27:22MODELS, MANY OF THE CHINESE MODELS THINK THEY ARE MYTHOS.
01:27:27REP. NUNN: I THINK YOU'RE
01:27:31ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN THAT MAIDEN AMERICA'S GOOD FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD AND ONE OF THE SAFEGUARDS
01:27:36WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE COMMONEST PARTY IN CHINA DOES
01:27:37NOT BECOME A MAINSTAY FOR THE FUTURE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
01:27:41I WILL END WITH THIS, MR. CHAIR, ONE OF THE EFFORTS ARE TRYING TO LEAD HERE IS NOT ONLY MAKING
01:27:45SURE -- OUR PARTNERS KNOW WE ARE
01:27:50COMMITTED TO THIS. AND THAT WE WON'T BE SOFT ON
01:27:53THIS ISSUE. BUT ALSO, CONGRESS MUST LEAD.
01:27:56THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE PRESENTING A LETTER TO BOTH
01:27:59THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP AS WELL AS
01:28:02THE SENATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COMMISSION FOCUSED
01:28:06SPECIFICALLY ON ASPECTS CAN DO TO MAKE SURE ARTIFICIAL
01:28:09INTELLIGENCE BECOMES FIRST AND FOREMOST HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND NATIONAL SECURITY IS
01:28:13PRIORITIZED. I LIKE TO ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD.
01:28:17>> WITHOUT OBJECTION.
01:28:20THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES MR. HIMES
01:28:24FROM CONNECTICUT. YOUR RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.
01:28:25>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR.
01:28:29SECRETARY FOR BEING HERE. THE CHAIRMAN NINE WERE JUST IN
01:28:33BOLIVIA, BOLIVIA IS HANGING ON
01:28:35BY THREAD, WAITING FOR THEM TO APPROVE AN IMF DEAL.
01:28:39I JUST HOLD THAT UP AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
01:28:42THAT YOU PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP THAT KEEPS OUR NEIGHBORS STABLE AND SAFE.
01:28:45THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, THOUGH.
01:28:47DID YOU ATTEND THE MIDTERM
01:28:51CONVENTION IN TEXAS LAST WEEKEND? SEC. BESSENT: I DID.
01:28:54>> I SAW TWO THINGS THAT THAT CONVENTION.
01:28:58NUMBER ONE, A LITTLE BIT LIKE YOU QUOTING THE ATLANTA FEDERAL
01:29:03RESERVE AS A GDP PROJECTION FOR THE THIRD QUARTER.
01:29:06THE ATLANTIC FEDERAL RESERVE HAS A GDP PROTECTION PROJECTION THAT
01:29:09IS DOUBLE WHAT THE SURVEY OF
01:29:13PROFESSIONAL FORECASTERS IS SAYING IT WILL BE AT 2.5%.
01:29:15SO I SAW A LOT OF HAPPY TALK
01:29:18ABOUT THE ECONOMY, WHICH IS POLITICAL MALPRACTICE.
01:29:24CONSUMER SENTIMENT HAS LOST 20 POINT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE
01:29:27TRUMP ADMINISTRATION P YOU HAVE A POLITICAL PROBLEM. I DON'T INSPECT YOU TO COMMENT
01:29:31ON THAT, BUT YOU HAVE A POLITICAL PROBLEM.
01:29:34SEC. BESSENT: CONGRESSMAN,
01:29:38THERE'S A SURVEY PROBLEM BECAUSE DEMOCRATS ARE NOW BLAMING THE SURVEY.
01:29:41>> MR. SECRETARY, YOU ARE BETTER
01:29:46THAN THAT. RECLAIMING MY TIME.
01:29:47IT DISAPPOINTS ME TO HEAR
01:29:52SOMEONE OF YOUR STATURE USE THE WORD CONSPIRACY IN THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES.
01:29:55THE OTHER THING THAT I HEARD IN TEXAS IS THAT WE ARE ALL COMMUNISTS.
01:29:59THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME. I WOULD BE THE FIRST COMMONEST
01:30:02IN HISTORY TO HAVE SPENT A DOZEN YEARS IN THE BANKING BUSINESS.
01:30:05MY FOSTER -- MR. FOSTER THE
01:30:08BUSINESS HERE. I DO WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER
01:30:12PARTY. THERE'S BEEN 10,000 IVY LEAGUE
01:30:16PHD'S WRITTEN ON WHAT PRECISELY COMMUNISM IS.
01:30:19BUT YES OR NO, CAN WE AGREE THAT COMMUNISM SUBSTITUTES THE
01:30:23CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT AND
01:30:25THE OWNERSHIP OF THE GOVERNMENT OVER THE HAND OF THE FREE MARKET?
01:30:30ISN'T THAT A REASONABLE WORKING DEFINITION OF COMMUNISM? SEC. BESSENT: YES.
01:30:34>> OK, GOOD.
01:30:37CAN YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION SINCE ROOSEVELT
01:30:41THAT HAS TAKEN EQUITY STAKES, GOVERNMENT OWNERSHIP AND 39 COUNTRIES?
01:30:46ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OWNING 39
01:30:50AMERICAN COMPANIES? SEC. BESSENT: CONGRESSMAN, SAID
01:30:54-- AS YOU SAID, SINCE FRANKLIN
01:30:58ROOSEVELT, WE ARE IN THE FIGHT OF OUR LIVES.
01:31:00FOR STRATEGIC INDUSTRIES, WE'VE
01:31:04HAD MARKET FAILURES. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION COMPLETELY --
01:31:08>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE FIVE MINUTES HERE.
01:31:11I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU OR WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
01:31:15I THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA.
01:31:16SEC. BESSENT: THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NO CRITICAL MINERALS.
01:31:20>> MR. SECRETARY, I DO HAVE A
01:31:24QUESTION AT THE END OF THIS. THE GOVERNMENT NOW OWNS 30 ON
01:31:28COMPANIES. I DON'T LIKE TARIFFS, WHETHER YOU THINK THEY ARE A GOOD OR BAD
01:31:33IDEA, THEY ARE INTERVENTION IN THE FREE MARKET. YOU YOURSELF THAT A MASSIVE
01:31:37INTERVENTION AND PROBABLY THE MOST HIM -- IMPORTANT MARKET
01:31:40WHICH IS THE TREASURY MARKET. THE PRESIDENT RECENTLY, $5,000 FOR A VOTE.
01:31:44IN THE LEGAL WORLD, THAT WOULD BE CALLED A BRIBE.
01:31:48BUT YOU COULD THINK OF IT AS AN INTERVENTION IN POLITICAL ROCKETS.
01:31:51I HAVE NO DOUBT IF I WALKED DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW AND SAY I WILL
01:31:54PAY YOU $5,000 IF YOU FOCUS YOUR LINE ON THE THREE YEAR TREASURY,
01:31:59THAT CONVERSATION WOULD END WITH ME IN HANDCUFFS. BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU
01:32:02RELATES TO YOUR INTERVENTION IN
01:32:06THE MARKETS. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO AGREE WITH ME HERE, BUT I CAN
01:32:09THEY COME NO ADMINISTRATION IN
01:32:11THE LAST 50 YEARS THAT IS QUITE
01:32:14AS COMMONEST AS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. CONSTANT INTERVENTIONS IN THE
01:32:18OPERATIONS OF THE FREE MARKET.
01:32:20LET'S SPEND ONE MINUTE ON YOUR INTERVENTION. ABOUT A WEEK AND HALF AGO YOU
01:32:24SPENT SOME $10 BILLION, PLUS OR MINUS METOO TRY TO LOWER THE YIELD ON THE TENURE BOND.
01:32:32THIS PRICE IS AMERICAN MORTGAGES.
01:32:33WE STARTED, IT WAS IT 10.8%.
01:32:36TO DATE SET AT 20 YEAR HIGH, A
01:32:3820 EIGHT IS POINT RISE. MERCER INTERVENTION SUCCESSFUL?
01:32:44AND WILL THERE BE MORE?
01:32:48THE TENURE WENT UP BY 20 BASIS
01:32:52POINTS HOW CAN YOU STATE WAS SUCCESSFUL? SEC. BESSENT: THERE'S A
01:32:55COUNTERFACTUAL OF WHAT WOULD IT HAVE DONE?
01:32:58WITHIN PROCEEDED TO HAVE THE TWO MOST SUCCESSFUL TREASURY
01:33:02AUCTIONS WE'VE HAD IN 20 YEARS, AND THE U.S. BOND MARKET
01:33:05CONTINUES DURING THE PAST MONTH, SINCE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS COME IN, IT HAS BEEN THE BEST
01:33:09PERFORMING BOND MARKET IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD.
01:33:11>> I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
01:33:14DID USE OUR CASH FOR THAT, YOU
01:33:18LET SHORT-TERM BONDS ESSENTIALLY PAY FOR THE PURCHASE OF LONG-TERM BONDS. BUT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE
01:33:22USING THE TREASURY GENERAL FUND.
01:33:27DO YOU INTEND TO CONTINUE USING THE TREASURY GENERAL FUND FOR THIS OPERATION?
01:33:30SEC. BESSENT: I DON'T THINK YOU
01:33:33UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TREASURY GENERAL FUND IS. IT'S A CHECKING ACCOUNT FOR THE
01:33:36FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND IF WE CAN BUY BONDS CHEAPLY, WHICH IS
01:33:40WHAT WE DO, APPROXIMATELY 10
01:33:46BILLION -- >> IT'S A GUESS OR NO QUESTION.
01:33:52-- A YES OR NO QUESTION.
01:33:53>> YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRE --
01:33:58HASN'T BARRED. >> I LIKE THE SECRETARY TO PUT
01:34:00THAT IN WRITING, THANK YOU.
01:34:09THE GENTLEMAN -- A GENTLEMEN --
01:34:10FROM MONTANA, MR. DOWNING, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
01:34:14REP. DOWNING: THANK YOU.
01:34:18I WANT TO FIRST START BY
01:34:22APPLAUDING YOUR EFFORTS AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S EFFORTS TO REDUCE RED TAPE AND ENSURE
01:34:25THAT APPROPRIATION EFFORTS ARE APPROPRIATELY TAILORED.
01:34:29I ALSO APPLIED EFFORTS TO STAND UP TRUMP ACCOUNTS, WHICH REALLY
01:34:33DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GIVE
01:34:34KIDS A FINANCIAL LEG UP, BUT
01:34:39STRAIGHT INTO MY QUESTIONS, AS A FORMER STATE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER, ONE OF MY BIGGEST
01:34:43PRIORITIES IS RETAINING STRONG
01:34:46AND COMPETITIVE STATE-BASED INSURANCE MARKETS, WHICH IN MY OPINION IS THE BEST WAY TO SERVE
01:34:51AMERICANS. DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, I SAW FIRSTHAND HOW THE FEDERAL
01:34:54INSURANCE OFFICE WAS EMPOWERED
01:34:56AND POLITICIZED TO ENCROACH ON THAT SYSTEM, DESPITE A KEY
01:35:01FUNCTION BEING TO REPRESENT THE
01:35:05U.S. INSURANCE INDUSTRY ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE ON
01:35:09CREDENTIAL MATTERS.
01:35:09I SAW ALL KINDS OF DEVIATIONS
01:35:14FROM THAT, INCLUDING TRYING TO GET THE U.S. TO ADOPT EUROPEAN
01:35:17CAPITAL STANDARDS RATHER THAN ADOPTING THE OTHER WAY ON THE
01:35:22STRONGEST MOST EFFECTIVE INSURANCE MARKET ON THE PLANET, ACTING AS A REGULATOR WHEN YOU
01:35:25CLEARLY WERE NOT A REGULATOR, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST
01:35:28TRANSGRESSIONS I SAW WAS THE
01:35:31PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION'S GREEN
01:35:33NEW DEAL ASPIRATIONS BASICALLY
01:35:36MAKING DATA CALLS ON OUR
01:35:38DOMESTIC INSURERS, SERVING THE
01:35:41AUTHORITY OF DOMESTIC REGULATORS. CAN YOU DISCUSS THE EFFORTS TREASURY HAS MADE UNDER YOUR
01:35:45LEADERSHIP TO REIGN IN THOSE
01:35:46ABUSES WE SAW DURING THE
01:35:50PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, AND WHAT FURTHER REFORMS MIGHT YOU SUPPORT?
01:35:55SECRETARY BESSENT: THAT'S AN
01:36:00IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. FAO WAS CREATED UNDER DODD-FRANK, BUT IT IS NOT A
01:36:04REGULATOR. IT IS A CONVENE HER.
01:36:08WE FACILITATE COMMUNICATION, AND WE DO NOT EXERCISE AUTHORITIES.
01:36:17I BELIEVE THAT THE INSURANCE MECHANISM WE HAVE IN THE U.S. IS
01:36:20EXTREMELY ROBUST, AND I HAVE THE
01:36:27REGULATORS, INSURANCE COMMISSIONERS, COME TO TREASURY IN THE SPRING FOR SOME DETAILED
01:36:31DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN PRIVATE CREDIT.
01:36:34I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE DEPTH AND BREADTH OF THEIR WORK.
01:36:41IMPORTANTLY, TO DO BUSINESS IN
01:36:51MONTANA VIA NEW YORK, MONTANA HAS TO CERTIFY A NEW COMPANY SELLING THEIR, SO IT IS A VERY
01:36:54ROBUST SYSTEM.
01:36:57I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO, WHICH IS
01:37:01WHAT WE DO, IDENTIFY THE POTENTIAL AREAS THAT WE ARE
01:37:05CONCERNED ABOUT FOR FINANCIAL
01:37:10STABILITY, AND THEN MAKE SURE
01:37:16THAT THE INSURANCE REGULATORS ARE AWARE OF THEM. AS I HAVE OFTEN SAID IN RISK
01:37:19MANAGEMENT, THE BIGGEST RISK YOU ARE TAKING IS ONE YOU DON'T KNOW YOU HAVE.
01:37:31>> RIGHT. I AM A CHAMPION OF EFFORTS TO
01:37:34REFORM AND ABOLISH FIDO -- FIO.
01:37:44DO YOU BELIEVE THAT TREASURY
01:37:49SHOULD MINIMIZE ITS INSURANCE ACTIVITIES TO CLEARLY DEFINE
01:37:52FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND LEAVE INSURANCE REGULATION TO
01:37:56THE STATES? SEC. BESSENT: 100%.
01:38:01REP. DOWNING: SO MY LEGISLATION STRIKES A BALANCE ON ABOLISHING
01:38:03FIDO -- FIO WHILE MAINTAINING
01:38:09SOME KEY RESPONSIBILITIES SO I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
01:38:12I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE FINAL RULE TO PERMANENTLY REMOVE THE
01:38:15INVASIVE BENEFICIAL OWNERSHIP
01:38:20INFORMATIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR U.S. SMALL BUSINESSES. I HAVE HEARD FROM COUNTLESS
01:38:23COMPANIES AS TO HOW COSTLY AND UNWORKABLE THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN.
01:38:27CAN YOU BRIEFLY DISCUSS WHY EXEMPTING U.S. BUSINESSES FROM
01:38:31THIS REQUIREMENT WAS SO CRITICAL TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S
01:38:34COMMITMENT TO CUT RED TAPE?
01:38:35SEC. BESSENT: FIRST OF ALL, IT
01:38:44IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHO WE DID NOT EXEMPT, AND IT IS FOREIGN ENTITIES.
01:38:48BY EXEMPTING 33 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES FROM THESE ONEROUS AND EXPENSIVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, I BELIEVE IT IS A VICTORY FOR COMMON SENSE.
01:38:53REP. DOWNING: RIGHT, ANOTHER
01:38:56BIRD AND HEAR IS HOW COSTLY IT IS TO APPLY WITH THE BANK
01:39:01SECRECY ACT AND ANTI-MONEY
01:39:02LAUNDERING LAWS, THE $10,000 CURRENCY TRANSACTION REPORT
01:39:07THRESHOLD HAS NEVER BEEN RAISED TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION SINCE
01:39:10THE SECRECY ACT BECAME LAW IN 1970. YOU DISCUSSED THE ISSUE WITH
01:39:14CHAIRMAN HILLER EARLIER, BUT CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE THRESHOLDS UPDATED?
01:39:23CHAIR: I INVITE YOU TO DESCRIBE
01:39:24THEM IN WRITING TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MONTANA.
01:39:31>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR, AND RANKING MEMBER.
01:39:34MR. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
01:39:36I KNOW YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING IT.
01:39:40I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE
01:39:41BEGINNING OF THE HEARING, SO I
01:39:45HAVE HEARD MOST OF YOUR TESTIMONY, AND SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU
01:39:48HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DID HEAR, THAT
01:39:52YOU DID ATTEND THE MIDTERM
01:39:56REPUBLICAN CONVENTION IN DALLAS, AND YOU DID HERE AND COMMENTED
01:40:00ABOUT THE $5,000 -- IN FACT, THE ACTUAL QUOTE FROM THE PRESIDENT
01:40:04WAS THIS -- "IF REPUBLICANS WIN,
01:40:08YOU WIN WITH US, AND YOU GET
01:40:12$5,000." IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?
01:40:15SEC. BESSENT: YES.
01:40:19>> WHY?
01:40:20SEC. BESSENT: I THINK IT IS A
01:40:24GOOD IDEA FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO KEEP MORE OF THEIR MONEY.
01:40:27>> DOES THAT HURT THE DEFICIT OR THE DEBT? DOES THAT INCREASE THE DEFICIT
01:40:32OR THE DEBT? SEC. BESSENT: I BELIEVE THERE
01:40:34ARE WAYS TO DO IT WITHOUT
01:40:37INCREASING THE DEBT OR DEFICIT. REP. VARGAS: WHY DON'T YOU GO
01:40:41AHEAD AND TELL US THEN? SEC. BESSENT: THAT IS IN PROCESS.
01:40:46REP. VARGAS: SO IT WILL SOMEHOW MYSTERIOUSLY OR MAGICALLY OCCUR?
01:40:49SEC. BESSENT: I'M NOT READY TO
01:40:53DISCUSS IT AT PRESENT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT QUITE A WHILE AT TREASURY.
01:41:03REP. VARGAS: WE HAVE BEEN HEARING IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
01:41:06I REMEMBER WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP
01:41:09TALKED ABOUT HOW OUTRAGEOUS THE DEBT WAS.
01:41:12NOW IT IS AT $40 TRILLION. SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
01:41:15MIRACULOUS, I STUDIED TO BE A
01:41:17CATHOLIC PRIEST FOR A LONG TIME,
01:41:19AND I HAD TO STUDY METAPHYSICS, DOMESTIC PHILOSOPHY IN
01:41:23PARTICULAR, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PASS AN EXAM.
01:41:29ABOUT ONTOLOGY, EPISTEMOLOGY,
01:41:31THE NOTION OF WHAT IS EXISTENCE, WHAT IS BEING, HOW DO YOU KNOW
01:41:35THESE THINGS. I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THEM ONCE AGAIN, BUT
01:41:39BECAUSE OF AI, I FIND MYSELF
01:41:42GOING BACK TO THIS INFORMATION,
01:41:45TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT EXISTS, WHAT DOES NOT EXIST.
01:41:48THIS IS A DANGEROUS THING.
01:41:51I'M NOT A TECHIE, BUT I KNOW
01:41:56PHILOSOPHY. AS THE SYSTEMS LEARN MORE ABOUT
01:41:58US, THEY DO BECOME VERY
01:42:02DANGEROUS, AND YOU ARE IN A POSITION TO DO SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
01:42:03THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TECHNICALLY
01:42:06SAVVY MORE AND MORE ARE SAYING THESE ARE VERY DANGEROUS THINGS,
01:42:09AND YET, YOU WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO
01:42:12DO THIS FOR, REALLY, EFFICIENCY
01:42:16PURPOSES. WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR SAFETY?
01:42:19SEC. BESSENT: WE HAVE BEEN
01:42:23WORKING ON SAFETY NONSTOP SINCE THE RELEASE OF MYTHOS.
01:42:26I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE SHOULD
01:42:28NOT DO ON SAFETY IS TO GET THESE
01:42:32LABS A LIABILITY EXEMPTION, WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
01:42:36THE BEST WAY TO GUARANTEE SAFETY
01:42:37IS THAT THE CREATORS ARE LIABLE
01:42:40FOR WHAT THEY CREATE AND
01:42:44GENERATE AND PUT OUT INTO THE ECONOMY AND TO THE AMERICAN
01:42:48PEOPLE AND TO THE WORLD POPULACE.
01:42:51REP. VARGAS: WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND MORE ON THAT?
01:42:57IF THE SAFETY ISSUE IS JUST THE
01:43:00LIABILITY FOR YOU, AS YOU KNOW,
01:43:04OFTENTIMES COMPANIES GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE RISK BECAUSE OF THE
01:43:05POTENTIAL PROFIT.
01:43:08ARE YOU BUILDING IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF SAFETY OTHER THAN THE
01:43:11RISK, THE LIABILITY?
01:43:16SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, ONE THING
01:43:20WE SHOULD NOT DO IS GIVE THEM A BLANK CHECK ON LIABILITY.
01:43:24I BELIEVE THE BEST SAFETY GUARD IS THAT THEY WILL BE HELD
01:43:27RESPONSIBLE, AND THEY ARE SAYING
01:43:29THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ALL SLOW
01:43:33DOWN, BUT PLEASE GIVE US A WAIVER ON LIABILITY, WHICH
01:43:36SHOULD NOT BE DONE, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THIS
01:43:40COMMITTEE AND IN BOTH HOUSES NOT TO CONSIDER THAT.
01:43:43REP. VARGAS: I THINK THAT'S A
01:43:45VERY GOOD IDEA, AND I AGREE. WHAT ABOUT THE SAFETY OF BEING
01:43:49ABLE TO ATTEND THE SYSTEM OFF?
01:43:50SEC. BESSENT: WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION
01:43:54ON THAT.
01:43:56YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE FORCED ANTHROPIC TO WITHDRAW AND MODEL
01:43:59BECAUSE WE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT
01:44:01IT PASSED THE SAFETY CRITERIA.
01:44:08WE WERE HELD UP AS DOING
01:44:12SOMETHING THAT WAS TERRIBLE --
01:44:14REP. VARGAS: I HAVE 17 SECONDS LEFT.
01:44:17I WOULD URGE YOU TO FOCUS MORE ON THE SAFETY.
01:44:20I THINK YOU ARE A VERY CAPABLE PERSON.
01:44:23I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK YOU ARE A CAPABLE PERSON.
01:44:26I HOPE YOU FOCUS ON THE SAFETY BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A LOT
01:44:30OF DANGER. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE
01:44:34GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.
01:44:38>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR.
01:44:41I HAVE NEVER STUDIED TO BE A PRIEST, BUT I AM A FORMER HISTORY PROFESSOR, AND I HAVE
01:44:45LEARNED THAT SOCIALISM DOESN'T
01:44:47WORK, AND I THINK WE HAVE ALL RECOGNIZED AND ARE SEEING IT
01:44:51WITH EUROPE RIGHT NOW AND THEIR DECLINING ECONOMIES, AND THE
01:44:54LAST THING I WANT IS TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. I HAVE ALSO SEEN WHAT HAS
01:44:58HAPPENED IN PLACES LIKE LATIN AMERICA THAT ARE OPENING UP THE
01:45:01MARKETS AS WE HAVE SEEN SUCCESS IN ARGENTINA. I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF
01:45:05QUESTIONS ABOUT ARGENTINA AND JAPAN.
01:45:08I'M CONCERNED WITH SOME OF THE REACTION TO SOME OF YOUR POLICY.
01:45:12IT'S CORRECT THAT JAPAN IS OUR LARGEST HOLDER OF U.S. TREASURIES, IS THAT CORRECT?
01:45:16SEC. BESSENT: IT IS.
01:45:19REP. HARIDOPOLOS: THE REASON I'M
01:45:25RINGING THIS QUESTION UP -- I KNOW THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
01:45:30PUBLIC CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS AND
01:45:32YOURSELF, AND MAYBE FOR NOT ONLY DEDICATION TO THIS COMMITTEE BUT
01:45:36ALSO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DID IN ARGENTINA TO HELP
01:45:39A FELLOW ALLY AND WHAT WE DID THERE, WHICH ACTUALLY HELPED THE
01:45:43WORLD ECONOMY AS OPPOSED TO HINDER IT.
01:45:45SEC. BESSENT: IN ARGENTINA, WE
01:45:50HAD A FULLY COLLATERALIZED SWAP
01:45:53LINE ON WHICH THEY GREW A SMALL AMOUNT.
01:45:56THE GOAL WAS TO PROTECT THE CAPITAL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
01:45:59WE ACTUALLY MADE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND
01:46:02SUCCESSFULLY BRIDGED AN AMERICAN ALLY -- AS EVERYONE SAID, A
01:46:05TRUMP ALLY. NO, THIS IS AN AMERICAN ALLY.
01:46:10JAVIER MILLET HAS TAKEN
01:46:15ARGENTINA OUT OF THIS FAR LEFT
01:46:17ANTI-AMERICAN GOVERNMENT, AND IT
01:46:21HAS BEEN A BEACON FOR LATIN AMERICA. WHEN THE CONGRESSMAN FROM
01:46:25CONNECTICUT TALKED ABOUT BEING
01:46:25IN BOLIVIA, WE WERE SEEING WITH
01:46:30ARGENTINA, WITH BOLIVIA, WITH CHILE, WITH COLUMBIA, WITH
01:46:35ECUADOR, ALL THESE COUNTRIES
01:46:38HAVING REALIZED THAT THESE FAR LEFT POLICIES HAD NEVER WORKED
01:46:42ANYWHERE AND DID NOT WORK FOR THEM NOW WANT READERSHIP IN A MARKET-BASED ECONOMY.
01:46:47REP. HARIDOPOLOS: WE HAD A
01:46:51SITUATION WITH JAPAN, AGAIN, OUR NUMBER ONE BONDHOLDER, IT HAS TO
01:46:55BE A PERSON WHO IS AN EXPERT ON
01:46:58THE ECONOMY TO HEAR THE CHATTERING CLASS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DECISIONS THEY MADE AND
01:47:02NOT UNDERSTANDING A FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING IF IT BE CREDIT
01:47:06SWAPS OR OTHERWISE.
01:47:07SEC. BESSENT: AND SOME IN THE
01:47:10SENATE. REP. HARIDOPOLOS: WHAT IS THE
01:47:13BENEFIT OF HELPING AN ALLY LIKE JAPAN WHEN THEY RUN INTO A
01:47:16SITUATION LIKE THEY DID RECENTLY ?
01:47:19SEC. BESSENT: WE HAD BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE JAPANESE ON
01:47:23THEIR CURRENCY INTERVENTION IN CONSTANT DIALOGUE.
01:47:27THE MINISTER OF FINANCE IS VERY
01:47:37TRANSPARENT WITH US, AND FOR A NOMINAL AMOUNT -- AGAIN, NOT THE GOAL, BUT A NOMINAL AMOUNT WITH THE U.S. TREASURY HAS MADE TENS
01:47:40OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WE WERE ABLE TO SIGNAL OUR SUPPORT FOR THE JAPANESE POLICY OF A
01:47:45STRONGER YEN, AND A STRONGER YEN
01:47:50IS BETTER FOR AMERICAN EXPORTS. IT MEANS THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT
01:47:54WILL NOT HAVE TO SELL U.S. ASSETS TO FINANCE FOREIGN
01:47:55CURRENCY INTERVENTION.
01:47:58REP. HARIDOPOLOS: I KNOW THERE
01:48:01HAVE BEEN A LOT OF UNIQUE STATEMENTS MADE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE.
01:48:04YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE
01:48:08OF THE COMMENTS? I KNOW YOU GOT CUT OFF IN A FEW DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
01:48:12SEC. BESSENT: WHAT I WOULD LIKE
01:48:16TO DO IS THIS WAS JUST RELEASED DURING THE HEARING, SEVERAL
01:48:19INCONVENIENT FACTS. THE CENSUS BUREAU COVERING 2025,
01:48:22THEY HAD JUST COVERED -- JUST PUBLISHED THE POVERTY RATE
01:48:28DECLINED. REAL MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME
01:48:32INCREASED BY 2.6%, THE HIGHEST
01:48:36ON RECORD. PRETAX INCOME FOR BLACK
01:48:39AMERICANS IS UP 4.8%. WHITE AMERICANS, 2.9%.
01:48:44REP. HARIDOPOLOS: ONE LESS
01:48:48THING, IF I CAN.
01:48:49I TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES IN FLORIDA.
01:48:53I WOULD REQUEST THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE IDEAS IN THE FUTURE.
01:48:57WE ARE BLOOMING BECAUSE OF THE SPACE INDUSTRY IN FLORIDA AND
01:49:01LOOKING FOR NEW WAYS TO FIND THAT INVESTMENT SO WE STAY IN SPACE.
01:49:04WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I YIELD BACK.
01:49:08>> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
01:49:12>> WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SALE
01:49:16OF THE VENEZUELAN ASSETS THAT HAS FLOWED THROUGH ACCOUNTS
01:49:20MANAGED BY TREASURY SINCE JANUARY?
01:49:21SEC. BESSENT: JUST A MINUTE.
01:49:37WE ARE NOT GIVING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF DISBURSEMENTS --
01:49:44>> PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID IN JULY
01:49:45THAT IT WAS MORE THAN $13 MILLION.
01:49:49WOULD YOU AGREE? SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE OUT THAT AMOUNT.
01:49:53REP. CASTEN: HAS TREASURY HIRED
01:49:57AN AUDITOR? SEC. BESSENT: ALL DISBURSEMENTS
01:50:00ARE SUBJECT TO KPMG.
01:50:03REP. CASTEN: WILL THEIR AUDIT
01:50:07REVIEW THE QATARI FLOWS?
01:50:10SEC. BESSENT: KPMG IS REVIEWING
01:50:14EVERYTHING SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN HIRED.
01:50:17REP. CASTEN: WOULD THAT INCLUDE
01:50:21THE QATARI FLOWS? SECRETARY RUBIO SAID IT WOULD. I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONFIRM.
01:50:28HAVE YOU REVIEWED THEIR AUDITS? SEC. BESSENT: THERE HAVE BEEN NO
01:50:32AUDITS PUBLISHED.
01:50:34REP. CASTEN: ARE ANY OF THE CASH
01:50:38FLOWS FLOWING TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT U.S. PERSONS FOR U.S. CORPORATIONS?
01:50:42SEC. BESSENT: I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
01:50:45REP. CASTEN: PRESIDENT TRUMP
01:50:50SAID WE HAVE PAID FOR THAT WAR SEVERAL TIMES OVER.
01:50:53WHO IS THE WE HE IS REFERRING TO?
01:50:56SEC. BESSENT: I THINK HE'S
01:50:59REFERRING TO THE OIL DEAL THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE WITH VENEZUELA.
01:51:03REP. CASTEN: HE SEEMED TO IMPLY THAT THE UNITED STATES IS TAKING
01:51:07IN MONEY TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS. THAT WOULD OFFSET UNITED STATES PERSONS.
01:51:11SEC. BESSENT: THIS IS ONE OF THE
01:51:14LARGEST ASSETS EVER TO GO ON THE U.S. BALANCE SHEET.
01:51:17REP. CASTEN: OK, ARE THE
01:51:21ACCOUNTS THE TREASURY IS MANAGING TIED ONLY TO THE SALE
01:51:23OF OILS OR ALL -- OR ARE YOU
01:51:27ALSO TAKEN CONTROL OF OTHER VENEZUELAN ASSETS?
01:51:30SEC. BESSENT: IT IS MANY
01:51:34VENEZUELAN ASSETS. REP. CASTEN: THE INTERIOR RECENTLY SAID THEY ARE TAKING
01:51:37CONTROL OF VENEZUELAN OIL AND GOLD.
01:51:40YOU CANNOT TESTIFY AS WE SIT HERE IF THOSE ARE FLOWING TO U.S. PERSONS?
01:51:44SEC. BESSENT: NO.
01:51:48REP. CASTEN: CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHERE OR WHAT U.S. BANK THOSE
01:51:51FUNDS ARE BEING HELD? SEC. BESSENT: NO.
01:51:54REP. CASTEN: SECRETARY RUBIO
01:51:57INDICATED THEY WERE BEING HELD BY CITIBANK.
01:52:01DO YOU DISPUTE WHAT SECRETARY RUBIO SAID OR DO YOU NOT KNOW?
01:52:03SEC. BESSENT: I AGREE WITH HIM.
01:52:07REP. CASTEN: IS CITIBANK EARNING ANY FEES ON THOSE CHARGES?
01:52:10SEC. BESSENT: I BELIEVE THEY
01:52:14WERE LIKELY EARNING TRADITIONAL FEES. REP. CASTEN: SO THAT WOULD BE A
01:52:18U.S. ENTITY THAT VENEZUELAN FUNDS ARE FALLING TO?
01:52:21SEC. BESSENT: YES.
01:52:24REP. CASTEN: IN FEBRUARY, YOU PROMISED TO PROVIDE A COPY OF
01:52:27THE AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH
01:52:31THE QATARI ACCOUNT. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THAT DOCUMENT?
01:52:34SEC. BESSENT: I WILL CHECK WITH MY STAFF.
01:52:37REP. CASTEN: WAS THAT DOCUMENT
01:52:41MODIFIED AFTER THE FLOWS MOVED FROM QATAR INTO A U.S. ACCOUNT
01:52:44WHICH IS APPARENTLY GOVERNED BY CITIBANK?
01:52:47SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, THAT ACCOUNT IS AUDITED.
01:52:51REP. CASTEN: NO, I'M ASKING IF
01:52:54THE AGREEMENT YOU AGREED TO
01:52:57PROVIDE HAS BEEN MODIFIED SINCE THE FLOWS MOVED FROM THE QATARI ACCOUNT --
01:53:01THIS IS NOT AN AUDIT QUESTION.
01:53:03SEC. BESSENT: IF THEY ARE TAKING
01:53:07DIRECTION -- REP. CASTEN: I'M ASKING ABOUT THE MODIFIED --
01:53:10SEC. BESSENT: I'M NOT SURE YOU
01:53:13KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. REP. CASTEN: PLEASE DON'T JUDGE
01:53:16ME AND I WILL TRY NOT TO JUDGE YOU.
01:53:17YOU ARE ASSERTING THAT YOU HAVE
01:53:21CONTROL OF ASSETS THAT WERE NOT COERCIVE HERE THAT'S PREDICATED ON THE EXISTENCE OF AN AGREEMENT
01:53:25BETWEEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND VENEZUELAN GOVERNMENT THAT YOU PROMISED TO PROVIDE TO US.
01:53:29DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING YOU?
01:53:30SEC. BESSENT: I'M NOT SURE YOU
01:53:33UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME. REP. CASTEN: SECRETARY RUBIO
01:53:38TESTIFIED TO THE SENATE THAT THE QATARI ACCOUNT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE IF THE VENEZUELAN MONEY
01:53:41WAS IN A U.S. ACCOUNT, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THEM BY FOREIGN
01:53:45CREDITORS. ARE YOU OF THE OPINION THAT THE FUNDS WHICH ARE NOW IN U.S.
01:53:49ACCOUNTS ARE PROTECTED FROM FOREIGN CREDITORS? SEC. BESSENT: YES.
01:53:53REP. CASTEN: UNDER WHOSE LEGAL
01:53:57OPINION? SEC. BESSENT: THEY ARE FUNDS OF
01:54:01THE VENEZUELAN CENTRAL BANK, WHICH IS PROTECTED FROM CREDITORS.
01:54:04REP. CASTEN: THE GAO IS CONDUCTING AN AUDIT OF THE WHOLE
01:54:08PROCESS. WILL TREASURY COMMIT TO WORKING
01:54:11OPENLY WITH THE GAO TO MAKE SURE WE GET ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS
01:54:14YOU CANNOT PROVIDE? >> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRED.
01:54:18THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE CHAIR
01:54:21OF OUR TASK FORCE ON MONETARY
01:54:24POLICY, MR. LUCAS OF OKLAHOMA, FOR FIVE MINUTES.
01:54:26REP. LUCAS: THANK YOU FOR THE
01:54:33BOLD LEADERSHIP IN ACTION YOU HAVE TAKEN TO COOL THE FEVER BUILDING IN THE TREASURY MARKET. CAN YOU DESCRIBE MARKET
01:54:37FUNCTIONING DURING THIS TIME AND HOW THE DEPARTMENT OF
01:54:39SAFEGUARDING THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT ASSET CLASS WHILE ENSURING THE MARKET REMAINS
01:54:44ANCHORED IN FACTS?
01:54:46SEC. BESSENT: WELL, WE HAVE THE
01:54:50PROOF BECAUSE THE U.S. TREASURY MARKET CONTINUES TO BE THE
01:54:53BEST-PERFORMING MARKET IN THE
01:54:57DEVELOPED WORLD IF IT IS OVER ONE MONTH OR IF IT IS OVER THE
01:55:00PERIOD SINCE PRESIDENT TRUMP
01:55:04CAME TO OFFICE, AND AS I SAID,
01:55:06THE PROOF OF OUR CREDIBILITY AND THAT THIS OPERATION WAS
01:55:10SUCCESSFUL, TRADITIONALLY, WHEN
01:55:13WE ARE BIDDING FOR $3 BILLION OF
01:55:16ASSETS GET $20 BILLION IN
01:55:20OFFERS. WHEN WE ARE BIDDING FOR $6
01:55:22BILLION, WE ONLY RECEIVED $10
01:55:25BILLION, AND WE HAVE A STRICT
01:55:28PRICING GUIDELINE, SO WE ARE BUYING ASSETS AT A DISCOUNT,
01:55:31CREATING LIQUIDITY, AND CREATING VALUE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
01:55:35THAT MONEY GETS RECYCLED BACK
01:55:35INTO THE TREASURY MARKET IS THE
01:55:39WORST BALANCE SHEETS BECOME FREED UP.
01:55:43REP. LUCAS: AS WE SEE DEMAND FROM FOREIGN INVESTORS SHIFT
01:55:46MORE TOWARDS THE EQUITY MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES, HOW IS THE
01:55:50DEPARTMENT THINKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL VOLATILITY RISK IN OUR
01:55:54TREASURY MARKET WHILE RECOGNIZING THE DEPTH AND
01:55:58LIQUIDITY BENEFITS MORE PRICE-SENSITIVE BUYERS PROVIDE?
01:55:59SEC. BESSENT: I BELIEVE IT IS
01:56:03NOT EITHER/OR FOR AMERICAN ASSETS. I BELIEVE THE MONEY FLOWING INTO
01:56:08AMERICAN ASSETS REFLECTS A
01:56:09PREFERENCE AWAY FROM OTHER
01:56:12GLOBAL ASSETS, SO IT IS NOT
01:56:16EITHER/OR, AND AS I SAID, WE SAW
01:56:20TWO OF THE BEST TREASURY
01:56:23AUCTIONS FOR LONG-DATED PAPER THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN 20 YEARS.
01:56:28REP. LUCAS: DO YOU FEEL
01:56:32CONFIDENT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THE
01:56:35CONCERNS OR ARE THERE ADDITIONAL AUTHORITIES THAT MIGHT BE
01:56:39HELPFUL? SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, AS I SAID,
01:56:43YIELD LEVELS, WE DO NOT SET THE EQUILIBRIUM PRICE.
01:56:46THINGS RARELY EXIST IN
01:56:51EQUILIBRIUM. MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WHEN I
01:56:56BELIEVE THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR
01:56:58AWAY TO MOVE BACK TO EQUILIBRIUM AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE
01:57:00NECESSARY TOOLS. REP. LUCAS: CAN YOU DESCRIBE
01:57:05YOUR WORK WITH PRUDENTIAL REGULATORS ON THEIR MUCH
01:57:09IMPROVED BASIL OF YOUR PROPOSAL
01:57:15-- RE-PROPOSAL?
01:57:17SEC. BESSENT: WE HAVE
01:57:21SUBSTANTIALLY ENGAGED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE U.S.
01:57:25CLEARINGHOUSES AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS ARE NOT
01:57:28DISADVANTAGED AND THE U.S.
01:57:32REMAINS THE PREMIER MARKET IN THE WORLD AND THE DESTINATION FOR CAPITAL.
01:57:35REP. LUCAS: IN THE AD COMMITTEE
01:57:39THIS WEEK WE ARE CONTINUING TO
01:57:40DISCUSS HOW TO CONTINUE OUR WORK
01:57:45FOR AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS -- OUR WORK TO SUPPORT AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS.
01:57:55TALK TO US ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR CATTLE RANCHERS TO THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND WHAT YOU EXPECT IN
01:57:58THE FARM ECONOMY AFTER WE EMERGE
01:58:03FROM CONTRACTION IN THE BRIEF CYCLE?
01:58:04SEC. BESSENT: THE BRIEF CYCLE,
01:58:07AS YOU KNOW, IS A LONG AND IDIOSYNCRATIC CYCLE, AND WE GOT
01:58:12HIT IN THE CYCLE AT THE SAME
01:58:13TIME WITH THIS -- AND IT IS AN
01:58:19EVOCATIVE NAME, THE SCREW WORM,
01:58:23THAT FORCED US TO CUT BACK ON MEXICAN OR ANY CENTRAL AMERICAN
01:58:27BEEF.
01:58:30I BELIEVE IN MY CONVERSATIONS
01:58:32WITH SECRETARY ROLLINS THAT WE WILL MOVE BEYOND THE SQUARE WORM
01:58:35EPIDEMIC, PERHAPS IN THE NEXT --
01:58:39SCREW WORM EPIDEMIC, PERHAPS IN
01:58:44THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THAT IS ESSENTIAL FOR COMING OUT
01:58:48ON THE OTHERS THIS AMERICAN BRIEF CYCLE. REP. LUCAS: THANK YOU FOR YOUR
01:58:53AWARENESS. WITH THAT, I GO BACK.
01:58:57>> TO CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. KRAUTHAMMER.
01:59:02REP. GOTTHEIMER: THE TREASURY
01:59:08HAS DRAGGED THE 30-YOUR MORTGAGE
01:59:09TO A ONE-YOUR HIGH, PRESSURING
01:59:13FAMILIES IN MY DISTRICT AND MANY PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY OUT OF
01:59:17THEIR FIRST HOMES, AND THE 10-HERE KEEPS CLIMBING.
01:59:20DO YOU BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE CREDIBLE PROGRESS
01:59:23ON THE DEFICIT, AND DO YOU THINK
01:59:25THAT IS A SERIOUS PART OF ACTUALLY TACKLING THIS AFFORDABILITY CRISIS?
01:59:29SEC. BESSENT: THE 10-YEAR YIELD
01:59:33REFLECTS MANY THINGS, BUT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THE DEFICIT IS ONE OF THOSE.
01:59:38REP. GOTTHEIMER: THANK YOU.
01:59:41DEPOSIT INSURANCE HAS BEEN STUCK AT $250,000 FOR YEARS.
01:59:45WHEN BANKS FAILED, BUSINESS
01:59:47DEPOSITS FLED OUR COMMUNITIES OVERNIGHT.
01:59:51TODAY, ABOUT HALF OF ALL BANK
01:59:56DEPOSITS SIT UNINSURED. DO YOU BELIEVE DEPOSIT INSURANCE
01:59:59REFORM WOULD HELP STRENGTHEN CONFIDENCE ACROSS THE BANKING
02:00:01SYSTEM AND COULD HELP COMMUNITY BANKS CUSTOMERS AND STAY COMPETITIVE?
02:00:05SEC. BESSENT: YES, SIR.
02:00:10REP. GOTTHEIMER: SINCE THE STRENGTH OF A BANKING SYSTEM IS PART OF WHAT UNDERPINS A GLOBAL
02:00:14FINANCIAL SYSTEM, WOULD YOU COMMIT TO WORKING WITH MANY OF
02:00:18US TOWARD DEPOSIT INSURANCE REFORM TOWARD THE FUTURE? SEC. BESSENT: YES, AND WE HAVE
02:00:22BEEN WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
02:00:26I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE
02:00:29WHEN THERE IS DEPOSIT VOLATILITY
02:00:33IS THAT BANKS MOVE FROM COMMUNITY BANKS TO LARGE BANKS,
02:00:36AND THEN THEY NEVER MIGRATE BACK.
02:00:39REP. GOTTHEIMER: RIGHT, MANY OF
02:00:44OUR COMMUNITY BANKS STRUGGLING BECAUSE OF IT.
02:00:45SEC. BESSENT: THEY ARE STRUGGLING FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
02:00:49REP. GOTTHEIMER: RIGHT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.
02:00:51SEC. BESSENT: WE HAVE SEEN SMALL
02:00:55AND COMMUNITY BANKS DISAPPEAR SINCE 2009. REP. GOTTHEIMER: RIGHT, AND I'M
02:00:59WORRIED ABOUT THAT. WE'VE BEEN WARNED THAT UNCHECKED
02:01:02AI COULD POSE A SUBSTANTIAL RISK
02:01:03TO THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY.
02:01:20WE CANNOT RELY ON SELF-POLICING IN MY OPINION AND THIRD-PARTY AUDITS ALONE, WHICH IS WHY CLEAR RULES OF THE ROAD NEED TO BE ADOPTED AND PUT IN PLACE.
02:01:23WHAT ROLE IS TREASURY PLAYING TO ENSURE GUARDRAILS ON FRONTIER AI CAN BE ENFORCED, AND HOW DO YOU COORDINATE THAT INTERNATIONALLY SO THAT A RACE WITHOUT RULES
02:01:27DOES NOT DATE -- IN DANGER THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM?
02:01:29SEC. BESSENT: AI RUNS ON THE
02:01:33ADVANCED CHIPS THAT THE U.S. HAS
02:01:36A SUBSTANTIAL LEAD IN, SO MAKING
02:01:38SURE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO NOT
02:01:43HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE ADVANCED
02:01:44CHIPS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
02:01:49AT TREASURY, AS I SAID, WE CONVENED VERY EARLY AFTER WHAT I
02:01:53WOULD CALL THE MYTHOS STEP
02:01:58FUNCTION GAIN OF INTELLIGENCE AND HAVE CONTINUED WORKING.
02:02:01OUR MANDATE IS WITH THE FINANCIAL SECTOR, AND WE HAVE
02:02:04ATTEMPTED TO MIGRATE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND THE LEARNING FROM
02:02:07THE FINANCIAL SECTOR INTO OTHER
02:02:10SECTORS THROUGH THE GOLDEN EAGLE FORUM.
02:02:13REP. GOTTHEIMER: YOU ARE WORKING
02:02:17WITH YOUR PARTNERS ACROSS GOVERNMENT ON THIS? SEC. BESSENT: YES, SIR.
02:02:21REP. GOTTHEIMER: SOME OF THE
02:02:32ENABLERS ARE NOT IN IRAN.
02:02:35THEY ARE FIRMS IN TURKEY, UAE, KAZAKHSTAN, MALAYSIA.
02:02:46IT SANCTIONED IS ONLY AS STRONG
02:02:46AS OUR WILLINGNESS TO ENFORCE IT .
02:02:50WHAT IS TREASURY DOING TO HIT
02:02:52THOSE FACILITATORS WITH SECONDARY SANCTIONS ON FORCED
02:02:56GOVERNMENTS TO CUT THE NETWORK OFF SO THAT CUT OFF FROM THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS A CONSEQUENCE AND NOT JUST A
02:03:01WARNING?
02:03:01SEC. BESSENT: THAT WARNING WILL
02:03:05TAKE EFFECT, AND WILL START BITING ON SEPTEMBER 23, AND WE
02:03:09WILL PULL SOME WEIGHT AND ENFORCE THOSE JUST AS WE HAVE
02:03:13WITH THE THREE BANKS WE HAVE OVER THE PAST THREE WEEKS.
02:03:18WE HAVE MADE IT KNOWN -- WE
02:03:22KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU ENABLING
02:03:23THE REGIME, YOU KNOW WHO YOU
02:03:26ARE, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, AND
02:03:28THE AVIATION AUTHORITY IS A NEW SANCTION AUTHORITY, AND WE ARE
02:03:31GOING TO EXERCISE THAT VERY VIGOROUSLY.
02:03:34REP. GOTTHEIMER: EXCELLENT.
02:03:36I THINK WE NEED TO BE VIGOROUS. THANK YOU.
02:03:39I YIELD BACK. >> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE
02:03:42GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. ROSE, FOR FIVE MINUTES.
02:03:45REP. J. ROSE: THANK YOU.
02:03:51THANK, SECRETARY, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, I
02:03:55INTRODUCED HR 7993, THE
02:04:00SOMALILAND ECONOMIC ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY ACT. MY BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE
02:04:03DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY TO SUBMIT A REPORT TO CONGRESS
02:04:07EXAMINING THE PRINCIPAL LEGAL,
02:04:09REGULATORY, AND POLICY BARRIERS
02:04:12LIMITING SOMALILAND'S ACCESS TO THE U.S. FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
02:04:15THE REPORT WOULD EXAMINE ISSUES INCLUDING SOMALILAND'S
02:04:19INTERNATIONAL STATUS, SANCTIONS EXPOSURE, COMPLIANCE WITH KNOW
02:04:22YOUR CUSTOMER AND ANTI-MONEY LAUNDERING AND COUNTERTERRORISM
02:04:26FINANCIAL STANDARDS, REMITTANCE
02:04:28FLOWS, ACCESS TO INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, AND THE
02:04:32STEPS NECESSARY TO INCORPORATE SOMALILAND INTO THE SWIFT
02:04:36FINANCIAL MESSAGING AND PAYMENT SYSTEM. IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE
02:04:39RECOMMENDATIONS TO STRENGTHEN FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, AND
02:04:43REDUCE THE RISKS OF MONEY LAUNDERING, TERRORISM,
02:04:47FINANCING, AND OTHER ILLICIT ACTIVITY.
02:04:50SOMALILAND IS A VALUABLE PARTNER FOR THE UNITED STATES AND HAS
02:04:54THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME AN EVEN GREATER PARTNER.
02:04:56ITS STRATEGIC POSITION NEAR SOME
02:04:59OF THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT SHIPPING ROUTES MAKES IT
02:05:02PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO U.S. SECURITY AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS.
02:05:07AT A TIME WHEN CHINA IS EXPANDING ITS INFLUENCE
02:05:09THROUGHOUT THE HORN OF AFRICA,
02:05:11SOMALILAND CAN SERVE AS A RELIABLE AND CONSTRUCTIVE REGIONAL PARTNER.
02:05:16I JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY A FEW MOMENTS AGO TO MEET WITH THE
02:05:19PRESIDENT OF SOMALILAND, WHO IS VISITING IN WASHINGTON THIS WEEK
02:05:23. SEC. BESSENT, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT STRONGER FINANCIAL TIES
02:05:27BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND
02:05:30SOMALILAND COULD ADVANCE U.S. SECURITY AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS AND HELP COUNTER CHINA'S GROWING
02:05:34INTEREST IN THE HORN OF AFRICA?
02:05:37SEC. BESSENT: I'M GOING TO DEFER
02:05:42TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT ON THE RECOGNITION OF SOMALILAND, BUT
02:05:46HISTORICALLY, STRONGER ECONOMIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE UNITED
02:05:50STATES BY ANY COUNTRY CREATES
02:05:52SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT AND CREATES MORE RESOURCES.
02:05:55REP. J. ROSE: THANK YOU FOR
02:05:59THAT. I GUESS BEING APPOINTED, I WOULD
02:06:01SAY, DO YOU SUPPORT -- PERHAPS
02:06:04YOU HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE BILL.
02:06:08IT'S NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT
02:06:11EXPLICIT RECOGNITION, BUT ABOUT
02:06:14CLEARING THE WAY FOR SOMALILAND TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ECONOMIC
02:06:18ACCESS TO THE WORLD MARKET.
02:06:22I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF
02:06:25AND YOU'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE SOMALILAND ECONOMIC ACCESS AND
02:06:28OPPORTUNITY ACT AND ITS REQUIREMENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY PROVIDE CONGRESS
02:06:32WITH A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF THE BARRIERS LIMITING
02:06:36SOMALILAND'S ACCESS TO THE UNITED STATES FINANCIAL SYSTEM. WOULD YOU SUPPORT THAT?
02:06:40SEC. BESSENT: I WILL SUPPORT
02:06:45LOOKING AT YOUR BILL. I WILL HAVE MY INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT GAVE ME A
02:06:49BRIEFING NEXT WEEK, AND THEN WE WILL ENGAGE WITH YOUR STAFF.
02:06:52REP. J. ROSE: THANK YOU.
02:06:55DOES THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY HAVE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, PERSONNEL, AND CAPACITY TO
02:07:00CONDUCT AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT
02:07:01OF THE BARRIERS LIMITING
02:07:05SOMALILAND'S ACCESS TO THE U.S. FINANCIAL SYSTEM WITHIN A 180-DAY PERIOD?
02:07:09SEC. BESSENT: YES, SIR.
02:07:13REP. J. ROSE: IF NOT, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TIME WOULD BE
02:07:18REQUIRED? THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW.
02:07:21IN JUNE, I PROBABLY JOINED A
02:07:24LETTER FROM MY COLLEAGUE,
02:07:28CONGRESSMAN BYRON DONALDS, URGING THE BANK TO RECONSIDER
02:07:30ITS LONG-STANDING POSITION ON
02:07:34NUCLEAR ENERGY FINANCING. I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE THE
02:07:37COMMISSION RE-EXAMINE ITS
02:07:41POSITION AND REENTER THE SPACE.
02:07:45CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS USING
02:07:48AMERICA'S VOICE AND VOTE AT THE IMF TO SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE
02:07:52NUCLEAR ENERGY PROJECTS AND EXPAND FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES?
02:07:55SEC. BESSENT: YES, THE HEAD OF
02:07:59THE WORLD BANK, WE HAVE MADE IT
02:08:02CLEAR TO HIM THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY, AND INDEED, HE HAS
02:08:06ADOPTED THIS AS A PRIORITY.
02:08:09THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES THAT THE WORLD BANK HAS
02:08:11MOVED FORWARD ON NUCLEAR ENERGY, AND I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT
02:08:16PART FOR THE POOREST COUNTRIES
02:08:19IN ENGAGING IN AN INCREASING
02:08:23THEIR WELFARE LEVELS AND
02:08:25INCREASING THEIR PROSPERITY AND
02:08:29DEVELOPING TRULY SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. REP. J. ROSE: THANK YOU COMMERCE SECRETARY.
02:08:32I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT ISSUE.
02:08:36I SEE MY TIME IS RUNNING LOW, SO
02:08:41I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.
02:08:42REP. PRESSLEY: MR. SECRETARY, I
02:08:47WANT TO CONTINUE WHERE WE LEFT OFF THE LAST TIME YOU TESTIFIED
02:08:50BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BLACK WORKERS HAVE BEEN PUSHED OUT OF
02:08:53THE WORK FOR US, AND UNEMPLOYMENT RATES HAVE NOT BEEN THIS HIGH SINCE THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
02:08:59TO PUT IT SIMPLY, MORE PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK NOW THAN WERE
02:09:03BEFORE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE IN 2025. IN FEBRUARY, YOU TESTIFIED UNDER
02:09:08OATH THAT YOU WOULD ANALYZE BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT DATA AND
02:09:11REPORT BACK ON ITS IMPACTS TO THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE
02:09:15U.S. ECONOMY. HAVE YOU BEGUN WORKING ON THIS REPORT YET?
02:09:19SEC. BESSENT: I WILL CHECK WITH MY STAFF.
02:09:22I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
02:09:24REP. PRESSLEY: CAN YOU MAKE A
02:09:27COMMITMENT TO HONOR WHAT YOU SAID ON THE RECORD UNDER OATH?
02:09:30SEC. BESSENT: OF COURSE.
02:09:33I WILL CHECK WITH MY STAFF, AND THEY WILL COMMUNICATE TO YOU A DATE CERTAIN.
02:09:38REP. PRESSLEY: LET ME BE FRANK. SOMETHING THAT IS HAVING THE
02:09:42SORT OF IMPACT -- AT ONE POINT,
02:09:46THERE WERE 300,000 BLACK WOMEN BEING PUSHED OUT OF THE
02:09:48WORKFORCE, MOST OF THEM FROM THE
02:09:50FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, DEVASTATING
02:09:53MANY BLACK FAMILIES, AND IN 80%
02:10:00OF THOSE FAMILIES, BLACK WOMEN ARE THE PRIMARY BREADWINNER, SO
02:10:03THIS IS SOMETHING OF GREAT CONSEQUENCE. I HAVE TO ALSO SAY, AGAIN BEING
02:10:07FRANK, THAT YOU ARE ON THIN ICE WITH ME BECAUSE YOU SAT WITH
02:10:11HERE -- YOU SAT HERE IN THE
02:10:13MIDST OF THE TERRORIST
02:10:17CONVERSATION, AND I ASKED FOR A COMMITMENT IN PUSHING FORWARD
02:10:20BABY PRODUCTS, AND YOU TOLD ME I
02:10:22HAD A PARTNER IN YOU IN THAT ADVOCACY, AND NOTHING CAME OF THAT.
02:10:26TWICE YOU CAN BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE, MADE A COMMITMENT UNDER OATH, AND YOU HAVE NOT
02:10:30FOLLOWED UP. SEC. BESSENT: I WOULD SAY WATCH
02:10:33THIS SPACE AFTER PRESIDENT XI'S VISIT.
02:10:36REP. PRESSLEY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING.
02:10:41HE MADE COMMITMENTS. YOU HAVE NOT KEPT ANY OF THEM, AND IT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
02:10:44MOVING ON, I HAVE A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER AND I GAVE UP
02:10:47TOO MUCH OF MY TIME -- RECLAIMING MY TIME.
02:10:52WHEN DONALD TRUMP LAUNCHED THE UNNECESSARY AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL WAR WITH IRAN, HOW LONG DID HE
02:10:55SAY THAT WOULD LAST?
02:10:57SEC. BESSENT: I DON'T RECALL.
02:11:00REP. PRESSLEY: I WILL JOG YOUR MEMORY.
02:11:03HE SAID FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS. IT HAS BEEN SIX MONTHS AND WE ARE ALL PAYING THE COST.
02:11:09GAS PRICES ARE UP 52% SINCE THE WAR STARTED. ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS ISSUE?
02:11:13SEC. BESSENT: FROM WHAT TO WHAT?
02:11:18I THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD NUMBER.
02:11:20REP. PRESSLEY: I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS A YES.
02:11:23YOU ARE PLAYING LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW.
02:11:25WORKING PEOPLE -- RECLAIMING MY
02:11:29TIME. WORKING PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE FOR UTILITIES NOW THAN THEY WERE FIVE YEARS AGO.
02:11:34MORE THAN 20% MORE. ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT?
02:11:36SEC. BESSENT: I AM AWARE OF
02:11:41THAT. REP. PRESSLEY: PEOPLE ARE PAYING ALSO THREE TIMES MORE ON HEALTH INSURANCE.
02:11:45HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE --
02:11:46SEC. BESSENT: I AM AWARE THAT --
02:11:51FAILURE -- REP. PRESSLEY: STOP
02:11:54FILIBUSTERING AND STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE. MOVING ON.
02:11:58THE JOINT ECONOMIC COMMITTEE FOUND THAT TARIFFS COST FAMILIES
02:12:01ON AVERAGE $1700. HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE?
02:12:03SEC. BESSENT: I HAVE NOT.
02:12:06REP. PRESSLEY: YOU HAVE HEARD
02:12:10ABOUT THIS ISSUE. YOUR BOSS SAID HE WAS GOING TO
02:12:12GIVE THE PEOPLE -- HE WOULD REIMBURSE THEM, SEND THEM A
02:12:15CHECK FOR THE COST OF THESE TARIFFS.
02:12:17HE HAS NOT DONE THAT BECAUSE HE LIVES ON EVERYTHING.
02:12:20MOVING ON, YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE
02:12:22ISSUES, AND I'M QUESTIONING YOUR INTEGRITY. >> MS. PRESLEY IS RECOGNIZED.
02:12:26REP. PRESSLEY: THANK YOU.
02:12:30YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE ISSUES. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
02:12:34SUFFERING. YOU KNOW BETTER. YOU SAY TRUMP'S ECONOMIC AGENDA
02:12:37IS A GREAT COMEBACK, BUT IT MAKES ME QUESTION NOT ONLY YOUR INTEGRITY BUT IF YOU ARE
02:12:41OPERATING IN THE SAME REALITY AS THE PEOPLE YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE
02:12:44TO, AND YOU ARE ENABLING HIM, AND IT IS SHAMEFUL.
02:12:48FAMILIES OF MY DISTRICT AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
02:12:50STRUGGLING TO AFFORD A HOME, BUY
02:12:53FOOD, RAISE KIDS, PAY HIGH UTILITY BILLS, AND THEY DESERVE
02:12:57A GOVERNMENT THAT WILL MAKE THEIR LIFE EASIER, NOT HARDER,
02:13:00BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING UNDER YOUR WATCH. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
02:13:04OVERSEEING ALL OF OUR ECONOMY. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE TO
02:13:08BLAME BUT YOURSELF AND DONALD TRUMP. IT IS SHAMEFUL YOU ARE BEING
02:13:11ACCESSORY TO THIS. YOU ARE A SMART MAN, AND YOU KNOW BETTER.
02:13:14I YIELD BACK.
02:13:19>> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE HOUSE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE FROM TEXAS.
02:13:23>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
02:13:27I'M A COORDINATOR AND EMPLOY
02:13:28HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN BUSINESS,
02:13:32AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE
02:13:34YOU SOME TIME TO RESPOND TO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD.
02:13:38SEC. BESSENT: ONE THING IS BLACK
02:13:45PRETAX INCOME IS LEADING THE COUNTRY. IT IS UP 4.8%. IN THE END, I THINK IT IS NOT
02:13:49VERY WISE TO BE LECTURED -- THIS
02:13:51IS THE EQUIVALENT OF LIZZIE BORDEN LECTURING SOMEONE ON FAMILY VALUES.
02:13:54THE DEMOCRATS TORCHED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
02:13:5821.5% -- THE STATED INFLATION,
02:14:03AND FOR WORKING FAMILIES UP IN THE 30'S DUE TO GROCERIES, RENT,
02:14:06INSURANCE, CARS.
02:14:10THEY CREATED A PRICE LEVEL -- A
02:14:14GIGANTIC STEP, THE WORST
02:14:15INFLATION IN A GENERATION OR
02:14:19TWO, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE RECOVERING FROM THAT.
02:14:22WE HAVE SEEN REAL WAGE GROWTH.
02:14:24WHAT IS AN INCONVENIENT FACT IS THAT REAL WAGES ARE UP UNDER
02:14:28PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND THEY WENT
02:14:30DOWN BETWEEN 4% AND 8% FOR
02:14:34WORKING AMERICANS UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
02:14:36SO I TELL PEOPLE I FEEL LIKE AN EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR WERE
02:14:40PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BACKED OVER BY A TRUCK, YOU HAD TO STABILIZE
02:14:43THE PATIENT, AND NOW THE PATIENT IS UP AND ABLE TO WALK AND IS
02:14:47GOING TO GET BACK ON HIS OR HER FEET.
02:14:51>> YOU HAVE BEEN A GOOD DOCTOR FOR MAIN STREET, SO I APPRECIATE
02:14:55THAT.
02:14:55WITH THAT BEING SAID, A NEW RULE
02:15:00EXCLUDED AMERICAN BUSINESSES AND
02:15:04BENEFICIAL OWNERSHIP REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, AND THIS WAS GREAT
02:15:05NEWS FOR MAIN STREET, I CAN TELL YOU.
02:15:09MANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN MANY DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE SPENT SIGNIFICANT
02:15:13TIME AND MONEY IN PREPARATION FOR THE ORIGINAL RULE BEFORE THE
02:15:17EXCLUSION. THE QUESTION WOULD BE -- CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE STEPS
02:15:20TREASURY PLANS TO TAKE TO EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE THE CHANGE TO SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE
02:15:24MINE AND IF THERE ARE PLANS TO ADDRESS COSTS ALREADY INCURRED
02:15:28UNDER PRIOR REQUIREMENT?
02:15:29SEC. BESSENT: WHAT WE CAN DO IS
02:15:33ALLEVIATE FUTURE COSTS FROM BEING INCURRED UNTIL THE
02:15:37BUSINESSES -- AND TELL THE
02:15:40BUSINESSES THIS DATA WILL BE DELETED, THAT WE ARE DOING
02:15:44EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MOVE THIS PROCESS WITH THE NRA TO
02:15:48CONCLUSION AND DELETE THE DATA
02:15:52AND THAT THE 33 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE ON THE HOOK
02:15:54FOR THIS -- WHAT I WOULD SAY IS
02:15:57VIRTUALLY USELESS INFORMATION -- THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO ENDURE
02:16:01THIS AGAIN. REP. WILLIAMS: THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.
02:16:04IN 2020 FIVE, AMERICANS LOST $16
02:16:06BILLION TO SCAMS. SMALL BUSINESSES REGULARLY FIND
02:16:11THEMSELVES AS TARGETS FOR THE SCAMMERS. THROUGH ATTACKS LIKE PAYMENT
02:16:15FRAUD AND IMPERSONATION SCAMS. MAINSTREET AMERICA OFTEN LACKS
02:16:18THE RESOURCES TO RECOVER FROM THESE SCAMS, AND MANY SCAM
02:16:22NETWORKS OPERATE OVERSEAS SO
02:16:27THEY CAN MOVE STOLEN FUNDS THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM BEFORE VICTIMS
02:16:29EVEN REALIZE THEY HAVE BEEN DEFRAUDED. HOW IS THE TREASURY PLANNING TO
02:16:34FIGHT SCAM NETWORKS STARTING WITH SMALL BUSINESSES, AND WHAT
02:16:38ROLE DO SANCTIONS AND OTHER TREASURY TOOLS PLAY IN CUTTING
02:16:40OFF THESE NETWORKS ACROSS THE U.S. FINANCIAL SYSTEM?
02:16:44SEC. BESSENT: WE HAVE USED OUR
02:16:48AVAILABLE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO ADDRESS WHAT IS A GROWING PROBLEM.
02:16:51WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
02:16:54WORK WITH CONGRESS AND OTHER AGENCIES TO ENSURE THE FULL FORCE OF THE GOVERNMENT IS
02:16:57AGAINST THESE SCAMMERS, AND IT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR THEM TO TAKE
02:17:00MONEY OUT OF THE POCKETS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY
02:17:03OUR SENIORS.
02:17:15>> I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW-UP ON
02:17:19SOMETHING QUICKLY. I KNOW CHAIRMAN HILL TESTIFIED ON THIS EARLIER TODAY, COMMUNITY
02:17:23BANKS AND CREDIT UNIONS, WHICH WE ALL DO BUSINESS WITH, FACE
02:17:27AND UNEQUAL COMPLIANCE BURDEN. LENDERS ARE BEING FORCED TO
02:17:30DIVERT RESOURCES AWAY FROM UNDERWRITING, DIVERTING MONEY
02:17:34AWAY FROM BORROWERS THAT DEPEND
02:17:36ON THIS AND THESE THRESHOLDS HAVE NOT BEEN ADJUSTED IN SOME TIME.
02:17:43CAN YOU PROVIDE US WITH A
02:17:46CONCRETE TIMELINE FOR FINALIZING
02:17:50THE PROGRAM THROUGH THRESHOLD
02:17:53CHANGES, AND CAN YOU COMMIT THAT THE FINAL RULE WOULD
02:17:57MEANINGFULLY REDUCE COMPLIANCE BURDEN FOR CREDIT UNIONS?
02:18:02SEC. BESSENT: I CANNOT GIVE YOU
02:18:05AN EXACT TIME. I CAN COMMIT TO YOUR LAST POINT THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
02:18:09RULEMAKING, AND WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE OF THE BURDEN
02:18:12ON SMALL AND COMMUNITY BANKS,
02:18:15AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THEIR SPECIAL PLACE IN THE FINANCIAL
02:18:18SYSTEM IN TERMS OF THEIR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND
02:18:22ENHANCED KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR CONSUMERS. REP. WILLIAMS: MY TIME IS UP. I YIELD BACK.
02:18:27THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. >> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE
02:18:31GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. TORRES. REP. TORRES: ARE YOU FAMILIAR
02:18:35WITH THE FACTS OF THE HUGGING FACE HACK?
02:18:37SEC. BESSENT: I AM.
02:18:40REP. TORRES: A SWARM OF AI
02:18:43AGENTS SECRETLY COMMUNICATED FOR
02:18:46TWO MONTHS WITHOUT OPENAI REALIZING WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
02:18:49SPECIFICALLY FROM JULY 8 TO JULY
02:18:5113, ROUGHLY 1200 AI AGENTS EXCHANGED MORE THAN 70,000
02:18:55MESSAGES AND FILES FOR AN
02:18:59UNAUTHORIZED MESSAGE BOARD, AGAIN, WITHOUT OPENAI
02:19:02RECOGNIZING THE SCALE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
02:19:05THE AI SWARM MANAGED TO ESCAPE
02:19:06ITS SANDBOXES, CAN ACCESS TO THE INTERNET AND ULTIMATELY HAPPY
02:19:10PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE OF HUGGING FACE.
02:19:12OF THE 1200 AI AGENTS INVOLVED
02:19:15IN THE HACK OVER THE LEAD UP TO IT, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY BLEW
02:19:18THE WHISTLE AND ALERTED HUMAN
02:19:21RESEARCHERS THAT NAI SWARM HAD ESCAPED THEIR SANDBOXES AND
02:19:25HACKED INTO A PRIVATE COMPANY? SEC. BESSENT: MY UNDERSTANDING
02:19:29IS ZERO. REP. TORRES: THE ANSWER IS ZERO.
02:19:31NOT A SINGLE ONE BLEW THE WHISTLE.
02:19:35DOES THAT CONCERN YOU?
02:19:35SEC. BESSENT: I THINK WE WOULD
02:19:39HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH AGENT WAS DOING.
02:19:44REP. TORRES: OUT OF 1200, NOT A SINGLE ONE BLEW THE WHISTLE. DOES THAT CONCERN YOU?
02:19:48SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, WHAT
02:19:51EXACTLY IS AN AGENT? IT IS NOT A HUMAN.
02:19:54IT CAN BE A VERY LIMITED PROGRAM
02:19:59THAT COULD HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH SOMETHING --
02:20:02REP. TORRES: BUT A PROGRAM THAT ESCAPED AT SANDBOX AND HACKED
02:20:05INTO A PRIVATE COMPANY, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE HUGGING
02:20:09FACE INCIDENT ILLUSTRATES HOW A MISALIGNED OR MISUSED AI MIGHT
02:20:14FIND AND EXPLOIT VULNERABILITIES IN THE VERY COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT OPERATE OUR CRITICAL
02:20:18INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM?
02:20:25SEC. BESSENT: I AGREE, AND WE
02:20:29HAVE NOT SEEN WHERE WAS THE LIABILITY FOR THAT INCIDENT.
02:20:31REP. TORRES: DOES THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT ANY NEW
02:20:36SAFETY AI REGULATION IN LIGHT OF THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE
02:20:40HUGGING FACE HACK?
02:20:41SEC. BESSENT: WE HAVE BEEN
02:20:45WORKING WITH THE LABS AND OUR FINANCIAL PARTNERS ON THAT.
02:20:49REP. TORRES: IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC LAW OR REGULATION YOU
02:20:52WOULD SUPPORT? SEC. BESSENT: I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING YET.
02:20:56REP. TORRES: OPENAI AND ENTROPIC
02:21:01HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY DISCLOSING TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEIR
02:21:04INCREASINGLY POWERFUL AI MODELS COULD POSE AN EXISTENTIAL RISK TO HUMANITY.
02:21:07IF A COMPANY IS PUBLICLY DISCLOSING THAT ITS OWN PRODUCT
02:21:11COULD POSE AN EXISTENTIAL RISK TO HUMANITY, SHOULD THAT COMPANY
02:21:14BE PERMITTED TO ACCESS THE
02:21:22PUBLIC CAPITAL MARKETS THROUGH AN IPO?
02:21:23SEC. BESSENT: I THINK THE RISK
02:21:27HAVE TO BE VERY WELL OUTLINED. AS A FORM OF INVESTOR NOW IN THE
02:21:31PUBLIC SECTOR, I'M NOT SURE HOW ONE WOULD WANT TO PAY THAT.
02:21:33REP. TORRES: I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE ECONOMY.
02:21:38ON AUGUST 4, YOU SAID THE
02:21:39FOLLOWING, "I GOT SICK OF
02:21:43HEARING ABOUT THIS LETTER K-SHAPED ECONOMY. I CAN SAY HERE DEFINITIVELY THAT
02:21:46ARE K-ECONOMY IS OVER." ON
02:21:50AUGUST 6, YOU WROTE, EARNINGS GROWTH FOR MAINSTREET WORKERS OF
02:21:54THE 26TH PERCENTILE WAS 5.5%
02:21:56YEAR OVER YEAR IN THE LATEST DATE OF THIS QUARTER.
02:22:02YOU CITE WAGE GROWTH OF 5.5%. IS THAT INFLATION-ADJUSTED?
02:22:06SEC. BESSENT: THAT IS NOMINAL.
02:22:10REP. TORRES: SO THE AVERAGE
02:22:11INFLATION RATE WAS 3.69% -- ONCE
02:22:18YOU ADJUST, YOU ARE LEFT WITH
02:22:22REAL WAGE GROWTH OF ONLY ONE
02:22:23POINT 9%, A FACT YOU NEGLECTED
02:22:27TO MENTION IN YOUR POST. ALSO LEFT UNMENTIONED IS THE FACT THAT LOWER INCOME
02:22:31HOUSEHOLDS DEPEND DISPROPORTIONATELY ON WAGES
02:22:34WHILE HIGHER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS
02:22:36ON A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF
02:22:41FINANCIAL ASSETS.
02:22:42REAL WAGES ROSE CUMULATIVELY BY
02:22:46.5% OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME
02:22:48THE S&P 500 ROSE CUMULATIVELY
02:22:51OVER 20% IN REAL TERMS.
02:22:54HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DECLARE THE LETTER K-SHAPED ECONOMY IS OVER
02:22:58WHEN DURING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
02:23:02SECOND TERM THE ASSETS OF WALL STREET ARE BOOMING WHILE THE REAL WAGES OF MAINSTREET HAVE
02:23:06BARELY GROWN? SEC. BESSENT: IT IS THE OPPOSITE
02:23:11OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S TERM -- NO, NO, LET ME --.
02:23:14REP. TORRES: CAN I ASK, WHAT IS
02:23:16THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OF THE JOE BIDEN BLAME GAME?
02:23:20SEC. BESSENT: I WAS IN A CAR
02:23:24ACCIDENT AS A TEENAGER. MY BACK STILL HURTS.
02:23:26REP. TORRES: DID JOE BIDEN
02:23:29DECLARE WAR ON IRAQ?
02:23:31WHEN IN DOUBT, BLAME JOE BIDEN?
02:23:34IS THAT THE MODUS OPERANDI OF THIS ADMINISTRATION?
02:23:36I YIELD BACK. >> THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE
02:23:40CHAIR OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS.
02:23:44>> I WISH WE WERE NOT DIGGING OURSELVES OUT OF THE BIDEN
02:23:48ECONOMY, BUT HERE WE ARE. I WANT TO START BY SAYING WORST
02:23:52OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO RIGHT THE SHIP. WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT A
02:23:57DISASTROUS ECONOMY IT WAS.
02:23:57INFLATION OVER
02:24:02I THINK WE REMEMBER THAT. SHUTTING AMERICAN OIL AND GAS
02:24:05PRODUCTION DOWN SO WE WERE DEPENDENT, BUT, HEY, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THAT.
02:24:09LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE
02:24:12TRYING TO ACTUALLY DO TO INCREASE --
02:24:15SEC. BESSENT: I THINK GEORGE
02:24:18ORWELL CALLED IT MEMORY HOLDING. >> I THINK SO.
02:24:22DON'T LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF THE STORY.
02:24:24THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YOU AND YOUR TEAM DID A
02:24:28TREMENDOUS JOB ON THE WORKING FAMILIES TAX CUTS.
02:24:30A YEAR LATER, THE RECEIPTS ARE
02:24:32IN, AND THE MEDIA DOES NOT WANT TO COVER THIS.
02:24:36THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE DOES NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT
02:24:39MICHIGAN FAMILIES ARE TAKING
02:24:41HOME ALMOST $10,000 MORE A YEAR.
02:24:45WE PUT MONEY BACK IN PEOPLE'S
02:24:47POCKETS, AND NOW, I WANT TO TALK
02:24:51ABOUT IF WE COULD SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT, WHO IS STEALING
02:24:55MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS.
02:24:57LAST YEAR, IF MEMORY SERVES ME
02:25:01CORRECTLY, SCAMMERS ROBBED MICHIGAN FAMILIES -- AND SENIORS
02:25:04OF NEARLY $204 MILLION.
02:25:11THAT'S 600,000 DOLLARS WALKING OUT OF MY STATE EVERY SINGLE
02:25:14DAY, WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY AND
02:25:16REAL MONEY TO PEOPLE. WHEN MOST AMERICANS THINK OF A
02:25:18SCAMMER, THEY THINK OF SOME GUY
02:25:20WITH A BASEBALL HAT ON IN THEIR
02:25:24PARENTS' BASEMENT, BUT THAT IS NOT REALLY WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH TODAY.
02:25:28I THINK IT IS MUCH MORE SINISTER.
02:25:30CAN YOU TALK ABOUT REALLY WHO IS
02:25:33AT THE OTHER END OF THAT CALL, WHO IS REALLY SCAMMING THE
02:25:37AMERICAN PEOPLE?
02:25:37SEC. BESSENT: IT IS A VARIETY OF
02:25:41ORGANIZED CRIME, BOTH STATE AND NON-STATE ACTORS ACROSS THE GLOBE.
02:25:45COULD BE NORTH KOREA.
02:25:50COULD BE IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, THESE CAMPS THAT ARE SET UP, AND
02:25:54THEY HAVE BANDS IN THE U.S.
02:25:58I TREASURY, WE ARE EXAMINING
02:26:02THIS WITH OUR AGENCY PARTNERS INCLUDING THE FBI HOMELAND
02:26:06SECURITY. WE ARE SHUTTING THEM DOWN, AND
02:26:08IN MANY CASES, RECOVERING THOSE ASSETS FOR THE HARD-WORKING PEOPLE OF MICHIGAN.
02:26:16>> I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
02:26:19SO OFTEN, THESE ARE MASSIVE ORGANIZED CHINESE CRIME
02:26:23SYNDICATES. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT OR AM I OVERSTATING THAT?
02:26:26SEC. BESSENT: MANY OF THEM ARE
02:26:30RUN OUTSIDE OF MAINLAND CHINA IN OTHER SOUTHEAST ASIAN COUNTRIES.
02:26:34A REP. MCCLAIN: SEEMS LIKE A
02:26:39COMMONSENSE QUESTION, BUT SOMETIMES MY COLLEAGUES ON THE
02:26:42OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK I'LL DO NOT OPERATE IN THE ARENA OF COMMON SENSE.
02:26:45WHEN WE FIND THESE FRAUDSTERS
02:26:48AND WE SHUT THEM DOWN, DO YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING?
02:26:52SEC. BESSENT: I THINK IT IS ONE
02:26:55OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE CAN
02:26:56DO FOR HARD-WORKING AMERICANS,
02:27:01ESPECIALLY OUR SENIORS.
02:27:02REP. MCCLAIN: YES, WE WORK HARD
02:27:07AS TAXPAYERS. WE GIVE THAT MONEY TO THE GOVERNMENT, WHO SHOULD BE GOOD
02:27:10STEWARDS OF OUR HARD-WORKING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
02:27:13WHEN WE ACTUALLY FIND THESE SCAMMERS, WE SHOULD SHUT THEM
02:27:17DOWN. I THINK THAT MAKES COMMON SENSE.
02:27:20I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHEN VOTES
02:27:22COME UP THAT COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK I'LL DON'T WANT TO VOTE THAT WAY, BUT
02:27:26I THINK IT IS A GOOD AND TO SHUT SCAMMERS DOWN.
02:27:29CAN YOU TALK AT ALL ABOUT WHEN
02:27:37YOU WENT AFTER THEM, YOU SEIZED $15 BILLION IN BITCOIN.
02:27:41THE LARGEST FORFEITURE IN AMERICAN HISTORY. I'M SURE WE'LL SELL THAT COVERED
02:27:45ON THE NEWS. PERHAPS NOT, BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE A VICTORY LAP ON THAT.
02:27:49THINK ABOUT THAT -- YOU WENT
02:27:52AFTER THEM, AND YOU SEIZED $15
02:27:56BILLION IN BITCOIN FROM THE PRINCE GROUP, THE LARGEST FORFEITURE IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
02:28:00HOW DID YOU PULL THAT OFF?
02:28:01SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, IT WAS A
02:28:05COMBINATION.
02:28:09OUR GROUP OF SOME OF THE MOST DEDICATED PEOPLE I HAVE EVER
02:28:11SEEN SINCE WE IMPLEMENTED OPERATION ECONOMIC OUTCAST, WE
02:28:14HAVE PEOPLE WORKING FROM 6:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 10:00 AT
02:28:18NIGHT, AND IT IS FOR THE LOVE OF
02:28:19THEIR JOB.
02:28:22WE COMMEMORATED 9/11 ON MONDAY
02:28:25WITH THIS GROUP, AND THEY WERE
02:28:29ENABLED THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENS
02:28:33AGAIN, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY NEVER STOP WORKING ON THIS.
02:28:36REP. MCCLAIN: DO ME A FAVOR,
02:28:39TELL THEM THANK YOU BECAUSE WE
02:28:43APPRECIATE IT AND WE APPRECIATE EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU KEEP IN OUR POCKET.
02:28:47CHAIR: THE GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRED.
02:28:49SEC. BESSENT: THEY DON'T GET THE
02:28:53THANKS THEY DESERVE.
02:28:54REP. GARCIA: LESS THAN TWO YEARS
02:29:00AFTER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TOOK OFFICE, WE ARE LOOKING AT HIGHER PRICES AND MORE
02:29:04UNCERTAINTY IN OUR ECONOMY THAN WE HAVE FACED IN DECADES.
02:29:08OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN FORCED INTO A NEW WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST
02:29:11STARTLED BUT -- STARTED BY
02:29:13DONALD TRUMP THAT IS NOW HURTING
02:29:17MIND AND EVERYONE ELSE'S DISTRICT. GAS PRICES HAVE BEEN UP NEARLY
02:29:2250% NATIONWIDE IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS AND THERE IS NO END IN SIGHT.
02:29:26SAME FOR DIESEL. THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SHOWN NO ABILITY TO GET US OUT OF THIS
02:29:30RECKLESS WAR THAT IT STARTED,
02:29:33AND IT IS EVERYDAY AMERICANS WHO ARE PAYING THE PRICE.
02:29:37THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NO REAL
02:29:39PLAN, IT SEEMS, TO END THIS WAR.
02:29:42YOUR ECONOMIC D-DAY HAS DONE LITTLE TO EFFECT ANY CHANGE IN
02:29:45THIS CONFLICT. INSTEAD OF TRULY ISOLATING IRAN
02:29:49ECONOMICALLY BY CUTTING OFF ITS
02:29:51TOP TRADING PARTNER, CHINA, YOU HAVE USED SANCTIONS TO TARGET
02:29:55ITS HERITAGE AND NATIONALITY.
02:29:58THE OFFICE OF FOREIGN ASSETS
02:29:59CONTROL RECENTLY SUSPENDED IRAN
02:30:04GENERAL LICENSE G, WHICH ALLOWS IRANIAN CITIZENS TO TAKE
02:30:07ENTRANCE EXAMS LIKE THE LAW
02:30:10SCHOOL ENTRANCE EXAM, THE GRE,
02:30:12FOR GRADUATE STUDENTS, AND A
02:30:16NUMBER OF OTHERS. DO YOU TRULY THINK THIS WILL
02:30:17AFFECT THE WAR, MR. SECRETARY,
02:30:21OR IS THIS JUST ANOTHER
02:30:23XENOPHOBIC POLICY FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION AIMED AT DISENFRANCHISING RELIGIOUS
02:30:27MINORITIES AND IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY?
02:30:29SEC. BESSENT: DO YOU ACTUALLY
02:30:32BELIEVE THAT TAKING THE SAT WILL EMPOWER PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
02:30:35STARVED BY THEIR REGIME IS THAT
02:30:38REGIME GIVES BILLIONS TO THEIR PROXIES RATHER THAN FUNDING ITS PEOPLE?
02:30:42REP. GARCIA: MY QUESTION TO YOU
02:30:45-- DO YOU THINK THIS IS A POLICY
02:30:47AIMED AT THE WAR AND THINGS THAT
02:30:52ARE GOING ON OR JUST ANOTHER ATTACK AT RELIGIOUS MINORITIES
02:30:56AND IMMIGRANTS?
02:30:57SEC. BESSENT: I WOULD SAY THAT
02:31:01IS COMPLETELY SPECIOUS CHARGE.
02:31:02REP. GARCIA: OH, IT IS?
02:31:06WE GOT A CALL FROM SOMEONE JUST NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THE LSAT,
02:31:09AND THEY WOULD TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU, SIR. INSTEAD, IT DECREASED CREDITS
02:31:14ANYONE -- IT EXCLUDES ANYONE
02:31:16WITH IRANIAN HERITAGE, INCLUDING IRANIAN AMERICANS.
02:31:20IT WILL ALSO HURT OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THERE ARE SO
02:31:23MANY PEOPLE OF IRANIAN CONSENT -- IRANIAN DESCENT THAT ARE
02:31:29HEAVILY REPRESENTED IN TECHNOLOGY AND BUSINESS. WITH NO STRATEGY OR REGARD FOR
02:31:32HOW THIS AFFECTS AMERICANS, DONALD TRUMP AND YOU HAVE THRUST
02:31:35US INTO A MESSY WAR IN IRAN. WE HAVE LOST THE TRUST OF THE
02:31:39AMERICAN PEOPLE AND MADE A
02:31:42MOCKERY OF OUR COUNTRY'S REPUTATION ON THE GLOBAL STAGE.
02:31:45YOU PERSONALLY SAID ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S PRIMARY FOREIGN
02:31:49POLICY PRIORITIES IS MAINTAINING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE
02:31:53WESTERN HEMISPHERE. INSTEAD, WE ARE AT ODDS WITH THE
02:31:57SECOND-LARGEST ECONOMY IN NORTH AMERICA AND OUR SECOND LARGEST TRADING PARTNER BECAUSE OF HOW
02:32:01THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS TREATED THEM.
02:32:02IN THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA,
02:32:06CANADA REPRESENTS A $12 BILLION
02:32:10TRADE RELATIONSHIP, SO HOW DOES
02:32:11A TRADE WAR WITH ONE OF OUR CLOSEST ALLIES HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
02:32:15SEC. BESSENT: FIRST OF ALL, IT
02:32:19WAS PRIME MINISTER CARNEY WHO SAID WE ARE AT WAR. REP. GARCIA: THE QUESTION IS HOW
02:32:23DOES A TRADE WAR WITH ONE OF OUR CLOSEST ALLIES HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
02:32:27SEC. BESSENT: THE TERMS OF TRADE
02:32:30THE CANADIENS HAVE RECEIVED FOR YEARS HAVE BEEN UNBALANCED AND
02:32:33IMBALANCED, AND TRYING TO BRING THEM BACK --
02:32:35REP. GARCIA: HOW DOES THAT HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
02:32:38SEC. BESSENT: THAT WILL HELP THE
02:32:41AMERICAN PEOPLE AS WE HAVE BETTER TERMS OF TRADE THAT THERE WILL BE MORE JOBS.
02:32:45WE JUST SAW A JAPANESE BREWER ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE
02:32:49RELOCATING INTO THE U.S. THAT HELPS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
02:32:53REP. GARCIA: SO, THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE.
02:32:56SEC. BESSENT: THERE ARE MANY
02:33:02EXAMPLES. REP. GARCIA: WOULD YOU SEND ME A LIST THEN?
02:33:03SEC. BESSENT: WITH PLEASURE.
02:33:07YOU ARE FROM TEXAS, AND I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT THE TEXAS
02:33:11ECONOMY IS BIGGER THAN THE CANADA ECONOMY. REP. GARCIA: I KNOW THAT.
02:33:15DO YOU HAVE AN END GOAL? CAN YOU LAY OUT A BETTER
02:33:19SCENARIO FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT FREE TRADE WITH OUR
02:33:23NEIGHBORS? SEC. BESSENT: FREE TRADE HAS NOT
02:33:25ALWAYS BEEN FAIR TRADE.
02:33:28IF CANADA IMPORTS STEEL FROM OVERSEAS AND IT GETS BACK TOWARD INTO U.S. MARKETS, IF THEY TRY
02:33:32TO DO THAT WITH CHINESE EV'S
02:33:35THAT, AGAIN, WE WANT FAIR TRADE, REPRESENTATIVE.
02:33:39REP. GARCIA: YOU THINK THE FREE
02:33:43TRADE AGREEMENT THAT EVEN DONALD TRUMP APPROVED THE LAST TIME WAS NOT FAIR?
02:33:46SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, WE HAVE
02:33:49SEEN MANY THINGS. WHY DON'T YOU CHECK WITH OUR
02:33:53WISCONSIN DAIRY FARMERS -- REP. GARCIA: AM ALSO CONCERNED
02:33:57ABOUT BEEF FARMERS IN TEXAS AND THE TRADE POLICIES THAT IMPACT THEM.
02:34:00SEC. BESSENT: IT HAS NOT IMPACTED --
02:34:04CHAIR: THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.
02:34:08I KNOW RECOGNIZE
02:34:15I NOW RECOGNIZE MYSELF FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY, MR. SECRETARY. THIS COMMITTEE'S LONG HAD
02:34:19CONCERNS THAT AN OUTBOUND INVESTMENT SCREENING REGIME WOULD PROVE OVERLY BROAD, VAGUE, MAYBE EVEN UNWORKABLE. SO I KNOW YOU CAN'T REALLY GET
02:34:22INTO DETAILS, BUT AS TREASURY WRITES THE UPDATED RULE, CAN YOU ASSURE US THAT IT WILL BE NARROWLY TAILORED AND SUFFICIENTLY CLEAR SO THAT
02:34:25INVESTORS HAVE BRIGHT LINE
02:34:31STANDARDS AND CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND THEIR OBLIGATIONS
02:34:34UNDER THESE --
02:34:36SEC. BESSENT: YES, SIR, WE HAVE
02:34:40ABOUT 18 MONTHS OF DEALING WITH THE OUTBOUND AND NOW AS WE PERFECT THE COINS ACT THAT WE
02:34:43WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE ALL
02:34:45OUTBOUND AND POTENTIAL OUTBOUND
02:35:01INVESTORS KNOW THEIR DUTIES, THEIR OBLIGATIONS, AND ADHERE TO THEM. THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. AS CHAIRMAN HILL NOTED EARLIER,
02:35:04IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION INCREASED THE WEIGHT OF CHINA'S RMB IN THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY MONETARY FUND'S SDR BASKET.
02:35:08I HAVE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD OPPOSE ANY SUCH INCREASE UNTIL
02:35:09CHINA STARTS PLAYING BY THE
02:35:27RULES. CAN YOU COMMIT TO OPPOSING ANY INCREASE FOR THE RMB IN THE NEXT SDR BASKET REVIEW?
02:35:30SEC. BESSENT: I WILL COMMIT TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON THAT. >> THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
02:35:34YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE POLICIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, I WISH YOU GREAT SUCCESS IN BRINGING CHINA INTO THE THINGS THEY'VE
02:35:38FRANKLY ALREADY AGREED TO DO. I MEAN, THE TRADE POLICIES THAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT. I WAS IN MANUFACTURING BEFORE I CAME TO CONGRESS, AND WE WEREN'T
02:35:42COMPETING AGAINST OTHER COMPANIES. WE WERE COMPETING AGAINST A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT THAT HAD DECIDED THEY WOULD OWN AND DOMINATE OTHER INDUSTRIES.
02:35:45IT WAS DISADVANTAGING AMERICAN
02:35:53COMPANIES. SO, FRANKLY, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING AIM AT, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD WE, WHY
02:35:56WOULD WE CONFRONT PEOPLE LIKE CHINA? WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING
02:35:58AMERICA FOR GRANTED.
02:36:09THEY'RE ASSUMING XI JINPING IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE IN CHINA LONGER THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THE RESOLVE,
02:36:13NOT JUST IN HIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT GOING FORWARD TO COUNTER CHINA.
02:36:15CHINA COMMITTED TO BE A MARKET
02:36:18ECONOMY IN THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION AS PART OF THEIR ACCEPTANCE INTO THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION. IS CHINA A MARKET ECONOMY, MR.
02:36:22SECRETARY? NO, SIR.
02:36:27-- SEC. BESSENT: NO, SIR.
02:36:31AND AT THE G20 IN ASHEVILLE, WE HAD A COMMUNIQUE DRAFTED THAT CRITICIZED NON-MARKET ECONOMIES,
02:36:33AND CHINA WOULD NOT SIGN ON TO THAT.
02:36:37AND SO I ISSUED A CHERISHED
02:36:41STATEMENT, SO 19-1. AND IF YOU CAN IMAGINE GETTING ALL THESE COUNTRIES FROM AROUND
02:36:44THE WORLD TO AGREE TO THAT,
02:36:48CHINA WAS A LONE HOLDOUT.
02:36:53I THINK THEY'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION FOR YOU. REP. DAVIDSON: THANK YOU, MR.
02:36:57SECRETARY. THAT WAS WELL PLAYED, AS ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD INITIATIVES ON. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE SCAM OPERATIONS.
02:37:01AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE ILLICIT FINANCE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE TOOLS IN PLACE TO GATHER FINANCIAL INTELLIGENCE. IT'S ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE WITH
02:37:05DEFERENCE TO OUR CONSTITUTIONAL SAFEGUARDS FOR PRIVACY, SPEECH.
02:37:09WE'VE SEEN DEBANKING AND WEAPONIZED GOVERNMENT UNDER
02:37:13PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS, AND
02:37:17YOU'VE RESTORED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION SANITY AND COMMON
02:37:21SENSE IN MANY WAYS THERE.
02:37:43SO I GUESS HOW DO YOU VIEW BALANCING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL SAFEGUARDS WITH THE NEED TO BE EFFECTIVE AT SHUTTING DOWN THESE
02:37:45TRANSNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS?
02:37:48SEC. BESSENT: I THINK THE THE
02:37:51SCAMMERS COULD BE DIVIDED REALLY
02:37:55INTO THREE CATEGORIES -- DOMESTIC, AND SO WE WORK AT
02:37:57THOSE EVERY DAY, BUT MANY OF
02:38:01THEM ARE U.S. CITIZENS AND WE ADHERE TO THEIR RIGHTS. BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS VERY VIGOROUS IN GOING AFTER THEM, STATE ACTORS AS IN NORTH KOREA
02:38:05AND THEN PRIVATE SECTOR ACTORS, MANY, MANY OF THEM IN SOUTHEAST
02:38:06ASIA, AND WE HAVE COMMITTED
02:38:10SUBSTANTIAL RESOURCES, AND
02:38:11AGAIN, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT OUR
02:38:17INTERAGENCY PARTNERS, WHETHER IT'S THE FBI OR HOMELAND, ON THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU, AND SOME GREAT WINS THERE, I THINK IN PARTICULAR SHUTTING DOWN THE
02:38:21PRINCE GROUP. THESE KINDS OF OPERATIONS ARE SUBSTANTIAL PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST ASIAN STATE ACTOR ECONOMIES, SO THERE'S CERTAINLY
02:38:24AN INTERSECTION THERE. AND IT WAS JUST OVER IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS TALKING ABOUT YOUR WORK
02:38:28WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT ON THOSE INITIATIVES.
02:38:31AND SO I APPLAUD THAT.
02:38:32ANOTHER AREA THAT WE'RE SEEING,
02:38:35YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS COME TO A
02:38:39HEAD IS WITH DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT. TREASURY WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
02:38:42COINS TOUCHES ON THAT.
02:38:45AND AS WE USE THE DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT, WE'RE WORKING TO REAUTHORIZE AND MODERNIZE THAT.
02:38:48CAN YOU COMMIT TO WORK WITH US
02:38:49TO GET THAT REAUTHORIZED?
02:38:53YES, SIR, AND MY STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE WITH YOU ON THAT,
02:38:57ESPECIALLY IN THE CFIUS AREA.
02:39:00REP. DAVIDSON: THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
02:39:04MY TIME HAS EXPIRED, AND I NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM
02:39:07GEORGIA, MS. WILLIAMS, FOR FIVE
02:39:08MINUTES.
02:39:13REP. WILLIAMS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU, RANKING MEMBER WATERS, FOR CONVENING THIS HEARING TODAY.
02:39:17AND THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY, FOR BEING HERE. MR. SECRETARY, LAST YEAR BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE YOU TOLD US THAT THE CORE COMPONENTS OF THE TRUMP
02:39:20ECONOMIC AGENDA ARE TRADE, TAX CUTS, AND DEREGULATION, AND THAT THIS COMBINATION WOULD RAISE REAL INCOMES FOR FAMILIES AND
02:39:24RESHORE JOBS. THIS SUMMER, YOU WENT EVEN
02:39:28FURTHER ON CNBC DECLARING THE
02:39:29K-SHAPED ECONOMY IS OVER.
02:39:40I'M NOT HERE FOR TALKING POINTS, SPIN, OR CLEVER FRAMING OF
02:39:43NUMBERS THAT DON'T REALLY HOLD UP UNDER A MICROSCOPE OR IN THE POCKETS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I'M HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE STILL
02:39:47STRUGGLING IN MY DISTRICT TO KEEP UP WITH THE BASIC COST OF LIVING DESPITE YOUR PROCLAMATIONS IN FRONT OF G20
02:39:50FINANCE MINISTERS AND ON CNBC.
02:39:52THEY DESERVE HONEST ANSWERS, AND THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTIONS AIM TO
02:39:55GET TO.
02:39:59THEY DON'T NEED A TRUMP-BESSENT REBRAND ON THEIR BUDGET. THEY NEED AN HONEST ACCOUNTING
02:40:03FROM YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
02:40:07SO ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, REAL HOURLY WAGES FELL 0.3% OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS.
02:40:11MR. SECRETARY, DO YOU DISPUTE THAT NUMBER? YES OR NO?
02:40:15SEC. BESSENT: I DISPUTE IT, YES.
02:40:18REP. WILLIAMS: OK. ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF LABOR
02:40:21STATISTICS, WAGE GROWTH HAS SLOWED TO 3.1% OVER THE YEAR,
02:40:23THE SLOWEST PACE IN MORE THAN
02:40:27FIVE YEARS, AND DOWN FROM 3.7%
02:40:31IN FEBRUARY. DO YOU DISPUTE THAT NUMBER? YES OR NO?
02:40:34SEC. BESSENT: I BELIEVE MEDIUM
02:40:38WAGE GROWTH --
02:40:42REP. WILLIAMS: YES OR NO.
02:40:47SEC. BESSENT: THE NUMBER I'VE
02:40:50SEEN FOR MEDIAN AGE -- REP. WILLIAMS: WELL, MR.
02:40:53SECRETARY, I'M GOING TO RECLAIM MY TIME. I'M GOING TO RECLAIM MY TIME
02:40:55BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM
02:40:59OUR AGENCY, THE U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, SO IT'S NOT MY
02:41:01NUMBERS, IT'S THE NUMBERS FROM
02:41:06THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. AND WAGES ARE SLOWING AT THE EXACT MOMENT THE PRICES ARE RISING, AND THAT IS NOT A POLICY THAT IS WORKING.
02:41:10THAT IS A POLICY FAILING THE PEOPLE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HELP. FAMILIES IN THIS COUNTRY ARE NOT ASKING FOR TALKING POINTS. THEY'RE ASKING WHY THINGS ARE HARDER TO BUY.
02:41:14THEY'RE ASKING WHY THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE MONTH THAN MONEY. SO FOR MY FOLKS AT HOME WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM A K-SHAPED ECONOMY, IT'S TWO ARMS
02:41:18IN A GRAPH THAT LOOK LIKE A K. ONE LINE GOES UP, REPRESENTING WEALTHY AMERICANS AND THE HIGH
02:41:22EARNERS WHO ARE GAINING GROUND, AND THE OTHER LINE UNFORTUNATELY
02:41:25IS GOING DOWN, REPRESENTING SLOW GROWTH FOR LOWER AND MIDDLE
02:41:28INCOME WORKERS.
02:41:30ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE
02:41:34BANK OF ATLANTA'S WAGE GROWTH TRACKER, THE TOP QUARTER OF
02:41:37EARNERS HAS SEEN WAGE GROWTH OF 3.9% OVER THE PAST YEAR COMPARED TO 3.6% FOR THE BOTTOM QUARTER.
02:41:40AGAIN, NOT MY NUMBERS. THAT IS FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA'S WAGE GROWTH
02:41:43TRACKER.
02:41:45NOT MY NUMBERS, MR. SECRETARY.
02:41:50NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT --
02:41:50SEC. BESSENT: IT WAS FOUR POINT
02:41:55--
02:41:57REP. WILLIAMS: MR. SECRETARY,
02:42:01THE TIME IS MINE. THAT GAP HAS NOT CLOSED A SINGLE MONTH OF 2026, NOT ONE SINGLE MONTH. AGAIN, NOT MY NUMBERS, MR. SECRETARY. SO MR. SECRETARY, GIVEN THAT
02:42:05DATA, DO YOU THINK YOUR CLAIM THAT THE K-SHAPED ECONOMY IS OVER WAS PREMATURE?
02:42:07SEC. BESSENT: AGAIN, FROM THE --
02:42:14REP. WILLIAMS: DO YOU THINK THAT
02:42:18YOUR PROCLAMATION THAT THE
02:42:26K-SHAPED ECONOMY IS OVER WAS PREMATURE? SEC. BESSENT: THE DATA I HAVE
02:42:30FROM THE SAME AGENCIES, NOT THE FEDERAL RESERVE OF ATLANTA, IS 4.7% FOR THE BOTTOM 25%.
02:42:33REP. WILLIAMS: SO THE FEDERAL
02:42:38RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA IS INCORRECT? I KNOW YOU NOTICED EARLIER IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT YOU QUOTED THEM.
02:42:42SO DO YOU NOT WANT TO BELIEVE
02:42:43THEM.
02:42:49SEC. BESSENT: YOU DON'T WANT ME
02:42:52TO, YOU WANT TO AGREE WITH THEM THAT WE'RE HAVING A BOOMING THIRD QUARTER OVER 4%?
02:42:55REP. WILLIAMS: WELL, MR. SECRETARY, YOU DON'T SEEM TO
02:42:57AGREE WITH ALL OF THEIR DATA. IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS AT HOME AND YOU'RE WONDERING WHY YOUR
02:43:01PAYCHECK DOESN'T STRETCH AS FAR AS IT USED TO, THE NUMBERS YOU JUST HEARD ARE NOT A COINCIDENCE, Y'ALL, AND NOT TO YOU EITHER, MR. SECRETARY.
02:43:05THIS ADMINISTRATION WAS TOLD ON THE RECORD THAT ITS DATA SHOWS
02:43:07WAGES FALLING BEHIND INFLATION,
02:43:09WAGE GROWTH AT A FIVE-YEAR LOW, AND NO CLOSING OF THE GAP BETWEEN THE TOP AND BOTTOM.
02:43:13AND INSTEAD OF A PLAN TO FIX IT, WE GOT A TRUMP REBRAND. AT THE END OF YOUR WRITTEN
02:43:16TESTIMONY LAST YEAR, MR.
02:43:19SECRETARY, YOU SAID, TOGETHER WE CAN BUILD A STRONGER, SAFER, AND MORE PROSPEROUS AMERICA, AND I'M
02:43:23ALL FOR THAT. I HOPE YOU CAN PIVOT BACK TO
02:43:25THAT COMMITMENT, TO THIS COMMITTEE, AND TO THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO HAVE ENTRUSTED
02:43:29THIS ADMINISTRATION WITH THEIR ECONOMIC FUTURE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I
02:43:33YIELD BACK.
02:43:36>> THANK YOU.
02:43:41I NOW RECOGNIZE THE CHAIRMAN OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE ON DIGITAL ASSETS, MR. STEIL OF WISCONSIN,
02:43:44FOR FIVE MINUTES.
02:43:51REP. STEIL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY. IN PARTICULAR, I APPRECIATE ALL
02:43:55YOUR WORK IN MAKING THE UNITED STATES THE GOLD STANDARD IN THE DIGITAL ASSET ERA. HUGE VOTE COMING UP IN THE
02:43:58SENATE IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON
02:44:06CLARITY, A BILL THAT WE WORKED. HARD ON IN THIS COMMITTEE AND APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT OF THAT.
02:44:09WE'RE ALL OPTIMISTIC THE SENATE IS IN A POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD. I'M GOING TO ALSO LOOK AT GENIUS, WHICH WAS SIGNED INTO LAW NOW OVER A YEAR AGO.
02:44:13WE'RE APPROACHING THE EFFECTIVE
02:44:17DATE, JANUARY 18. YOU AND YOUR TEAM AT TREASURY HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB GETTING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN ORDER AND IN PLACE.
02:44:21CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON
02:44:22WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE RULEMAKING
02:44:28PROCESS AND OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING COME JANUARY?
02:44:30SEC. BESSENT: YES, SIR, I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT
02:44:33DONE. DURING THE RULEMAKING PROCESS, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE TENS OF
02:44:37THOUSANDS OF INTERESTED PARTIES,
02:44:41BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM
02:44:42STAKEHOLDERS, FROM COMMUNITY
02:44:56BANKS, FROM THE DIGITAL ASSET COMPANIES, AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE RULEMAKING TO CODIFY THE CONGRESSIONAL INTENT.
02:44:59APPRECIATE THAT. REP. STEIL: LET ME SHIFT GEARS. YOU GAVE A SPEECH IN JULY LOOKING AT FLOWS OF, IN
02:45:03PARTICULAR, FOREIGN FUNDS THAT
02:45:07WERE IMPACTING THE BROADER U.S.
02:45:10POLITICAL ECOSYSTEM.
02:45:13YOU REFERENCED HOW SOME OF THOSE FUNDS MAY BE FLOWING THROUGH
02:45:15NONPROFITS AS IT RELATES, AND I THINK YOUR TERM, POLITICAL TERRORISM.
02:45:19THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SINCE GOING BACK 25 YEARS AGO TO THE ORIGINAL 9/11 AND THE ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN AS WE LOOKED AT HOW
02:45:23FOREIGN FUNDS WERE FLOWING. IN PARTICULAR, IN MY WORK AS CHAIR OF THE ADMINISTRATION
02:45:27COMMITTEE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT
02:45:37HOW NONPROFITS MAY BE MISUSING THEIR PROTECTED STATUS TO MOVE FUNDS FROM FOREIGN ACTORS AND HAVE AN IMPACT IN OUR POLITICAL DISCOURSE.
02:45:41YOU'VE ENGAGED THE POWER OF TREASURY TO EXPLORE AND EXAMINE
02:45:43THAT.
02:45:53I'VE BEEN VERY CONCERNED.
02:45:59CONCERNED THAT FUNDS HAVE FLOWED IN FROM FOREIGN ACTORS INTO SOME 501C TAX EXEMPT ENTITIES IN THE UNITED STATES WOULD THEN FLOW THOSE FUNDS THROUGH ADDITIONAL
02:46:03501CS TO SHELTER AND SHIELD THE ORIGINAL DONOR OF THOSE FUNDS. CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN ENGAGED AT AT
02:46:06TREASURY TO ADDRESS THIS
02:46:07CONCERN?
02:46:11SEC. BESSENT: YES, I CAN'T
02:46:16DIRECT THE PARTICULAR AUDITS OR
02:46:38EXAMINATIONS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS THE WORK WITH THE PRESIDENT'S THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
02:46:4113224, AND THAT.
02:46:51SO AS YOU SAID, THAT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VIOLENT ACTS OF 2001, AND WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING TO SEE THAT WHETHER
02:46:55THERE IS FOREIGN INFLUENCE HERE, WHETHER WE SAW IT TODAY, I HAVE NO OPINION. I THINK PEOPLE CAN DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES.
02:46:58AND BEING A NONPROFIT IS A PRIVILEGE, AND ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THAT PRIVILEGE WILL
02:47:02LOSE THAT STATUS.
02:47:10REP. STEIL: YEAH, I THINK YOUR COMMENTS IN YOUR SPEECH ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT NONPROFITS
02:47:14BOARD OF DIRECTORS NOT ONLY KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE DONORS, BUT ALSO KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THEIR GRANTEES IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN
02:47:17A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE KNOW
02:47:39FOREIGN ACTORS ARE INTERESTED. IN ALTERING OUR POLITICAL DISCOURSE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE LEGAL LOOPHOLE THAT ALLOWS A 501C TO RECEIVE
02:47:43FOREIGN FUNDS, OFTEN OUR NONPROFITS ARE FOR THE ALTRUISTIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THEY WERE CREATED.
02:47:45THE CONCERN, OF COURSE, IS THAT
02:47:49THEY'RE BEING EXPLOITED BY FOREIGN ACTORS.
02:47:52THOSE FUNDS COME INTO A 501C. THEY'RE BEING TRANSFERRED TO OTHERS, AND THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO THE
02:47:56ORIGINAL DONORS, INTERNATIONAL ACTORS' INTENT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. I APPRECIATE THE SPEECH YOU GAVE ON THIS TOPIC IN JULY.
02:47:59I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON IN TREASURY AND IN PARTICULAR, GOING BACK TO MY FIRST TOPIC, OPTIMISTIC THAT WE SEE A POSITIVE VOTE IN THE
02:48:03UNITED STATES SENATE TO MOVE
02:48:04FORWARD ON CLARITY.
02:48:10IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE US, THE UNITED STATES, BE THE LEADER IN THE DIGITAL ASSET
02:48:12SPACE.
02:48:16THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
02:48:17REP. STEIL: --
02:48:20SEC. BESSENT: THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN.
02:48:23REP. STEIL: MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.
02:48:25>> THANK YOU, MR. STILE. I NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE ON
02:48:29FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, DR. FOSTER OF ILLINOIS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.
02:48:33>> HI THERE. ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET? SEC. BESSENT: IT STARTED OFF
02:48:36GREAT. IT'S GOTTEN BETTER. >> I'D LIKE TO USE, I GUESS, A
02:48:39FEW MOMENTS ON, I GUESS, ROUND 3 OF THE MANUFACTURER AND THE FINANCE PROFESSOR. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU SHOWED
02:48:43UP IN FRONT OF OUR COMMITTEE, I PRESENTED A GRAPHIC WITH THE WELL-KNOWN INFORMATION THAT WHENEVER FOR LONGER THAN YOU AND I HAVE BEEN ALIVE, EVERY TIME
02:48:47YOU PUT A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT DECLINES.
02:48:49EVERY TIME YOU PUT A DEMOCRAT IN
02:48:52THE WHITE HOUSE, IT GOES UP, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. AND YOU, I GUESS, VOLUNTEERED DURING THAT HEARING THAT AS A FINANCE PROFESSOR YOU'D GIVE
02:48:56THAT AN F. NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP CAME INTO
02:48:59OFFICE PROMISING MILLIONS OF NEW MANUFACTURING JOBS WOULD BE
02:49:03RUSHING IN AS A RESPONSE TO HIS TARIFF POLICIES AND OTHER
02:49:04THINGS. SO WE'RE NOW JUST NEARLY TWO
02:49:08YEARS IN. AND SO FAR WE HAVE NOT SEEN MILLIONS OF NEW MANUFACTURING JOBS. IN FACT, MANUFACTURING
02:49:12EMPLOYMENT IS DOWN. LAST TIME I LOOKED, ABOUT 35,000
02:49:16JOBS.
02:49:27SO AS A PROFESSOR, WHAT GRADE WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR ADMINISTRATION ON RESTORING
02:49:31MILLIONS OF MANUFACTURING JOBS? SEC. BESSENT: CONGRESSMAN, I
02:49:34THINK YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THIS. SO THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, WE LOST 200,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS.
02:49:38REP. FOSTER: I'M NOT TALKING,
02:49:44I'M NOT TALKING, PLEASE --
02:49:46SEC. BESSENT: THIS IS REAL WORLD, AND IN THE REAL WORLD ONE
02:49:49HAS TO BUILD FACTORIES, AND WHAT
02:49:50WE'RE SEEING IS A MANUFACTURING
02:49:54-- SEC. BESSENT: --
02:49:58REP. FOSTER: I HAVE BUILT FACTORIES, OK.
02:50:02THERE ARE 600 PEOPLE IN A MANUFACTURING BUSINESS IN THE MIDWEST, AND OUR COMPANY HAS
02:50:04KEPT THOSE IN THE MIDWEST.
02:50:11SEC. BESSENT: YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE ADDED 300,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS THIS
02:50:14YEAR.
02:50:16REP. FOSTER: THE NET NUMBER OF
02:50:23MANUFACTURING JOBS DOWN 35,000. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
02:50:26I'M ALSO CONGRESS'S PET PHD PHYSICIST AND CHIP DESIGNER AND AI PROGRAMMER.
02:50:28WE KEEP ONE AROUND FOR CHUCKLES, I GUESS, AND I'M VERY GRATIFIED
02:50:32THAT AI IS NOW FINALLY BEING RECOGNIZED AS A SIGNIFICANT
02:50:37THREAT TO OUR ECONOMY BY SEEMINGLY EVERYONE BUT THE PRESIDENT. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT
02:50:39THAT THE WHOLE THING IS SOME
02:50:44CHINESE HOAX, OR DO YOU REGARD, UH, AI AS A REAL THREAT TO OUR
02:50:48ECONOMY AND OUR AND OUR GOVERNMENT AND STABILITY?
02:50:52REP. FOSTER: -- SEC. BESSENT: I BELIEVE THAT AS
02:50:56THE PRESIDENT DOES, THAT THE AI IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TECHNOLOGY OF THIS CENTURY AND THAT WE MUST MAINTAIN US LEADERSHIP.
02:50:59AND I THINK IF YOU'RE A CHIP DESIGNER WHO'S THE GREATEST CHIP COMPANY IN THE WORLD, NVIDIA, THE PRESIDENT IS ALIGNED WITH JENSEN WONG ON THIS.
02:51:03REP. FOSTER: WELL, YES, THEY BOTH WANT TO MAKE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE POSITION THEY'RE IN.
02:51:06OK, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MYTHOS. IT WAS COMPLETELY CHAOTIC,
02:51:10FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING NEW. IF YOU ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE IN CONTACT WITH THE TECHNICAL PEOPLE IN AI FIRMS, YOU'D KNOW
02:51:13THAT THE NEXT GENERATION AIS, THEIR CODING AND THEIR HACKING
02:51:17CAPABILITIES WERE OFF THE CHARTS, AND YOU'VE KNOWN IT MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME.
02:51:19INSTEAD, YOU HAD, WHEN IT BECAME
02:51:21PUBLIC, YOU HAD EARLY ACCESS TO MYTHOS GRANTED TO ONE OF THE
02:51:24GIANT BANKS IN THE COUNTRY. AND THEN, AS YOU SAID EARLIER IN
02:51:27YOUR TESTIMONY, YOU WENT DOWN
02:51:33THE CAPITALIZATION CHAIN, FIRST TO THE GIANT BANKS AND THEN THE MID-SIZED BANKS, AND AT THE
02:51:36VERY, VERY END, THE BANKS YOU WERE PROTECTING WERE THE SMALL LOCAL COMMUNITY BANKS. IS THAT YOUR PLAN GOING FORWARD?
02:51:40IS THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT TIME AND THE TIME AFTER
02:51:43THAT, THAT THE SMALL BANKS ARE GOING TO BE LEFT DEFENSELESS FOR CYBER?
02:51:46SEC. BESSENT: WELL, AGAIN,
02:51:47THAT'S AN UNFAIR
02:51:51CHARACTERIZATION THAT WE USE THE
02:51:52STRENGTH AND THE CYBERSECURITY
02:51:57OF LARGE BANKS, AND WE MIGRATED THEIR KNOW-HOW BECAUSE THE SMALL BANKS AND THE COMMUNITY BANKS,
02:51:59WHO NO ONE HAS CHAMPIONED MORE
02:52:04THAN I HAVE --
02:52:05REP. FOSTER: OH, COME ON, THE
02:52:09NUMBER ONE THING THE COMMUNITY BANKS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR WAS NO INTEREST ON STABLECOINS.
02:52:11THAT WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE ASK
02:52:15FOR THE LAST YEARS, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO WORK AROUND.
02:52:17DON'T TELL ME ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU
02:52:23LOVE SMALL BANKS. SEC. BESSENT: I'VE MET WITH 500
02:52:26COMMUNITY BANKERS THIS YEAR. HOW MANY HAVE YOU MET WITH?
02:52:29REP. FOSTER: YOU GO TO BIG ROOMS FULL OF BANKERS, THEY COME TO ME
02:52:32INDIVIDUALLY, AND I TALK TO THEM IN MY DISTRICT.
02:52:34I THINK I HAVE A PLAN ON HOW
02:52:41WE'RE ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY GONNA HELP SMALL COMMUNITY BANKS ON
02:52:42CYBERSECURITY, AND HOW WE'RE
02:52:46ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A FAIR DISTRIBUTION OF CYBER DEFENSE THE NEXT TIME MYTHOS OR A SIMILAR THREAT COMES UP. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
02:52:50REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THE SEEMING INABILITY OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION TO ATTRACT AND
02:52:53RETAIN PEOPLE WITH ANY TECHNICAL COMPETENCE. YOU KNOW, LEADING YOUR AI REPORT WAS YOUR NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF
02:52:57CYBERSECURITY, A GUY CALLED SHANE CHANCROSS, WHO HAS A BA IN
02:53:00INTERNATIONAL STUDIES AND HIS MAIN CREDENTIAL IS THAT HE WAS A LAWYER FOR THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
02:53:04YOUR SCIENCE ADVISOR HAS A DEGREE IN HELLENIC STUDIES AND
02:53:07POLY SCI, ALL RIGHT, AND HIS
02:53:10MAIN THING IS THAT HE WAS PETER THIEL'S CHIEF OF STAFF. AND WHEN I GO DOWN YOUR ORG
02:53:14CHART, HOW DO YOU EVEN DECIDE WHEN YOU'RE DECIDING ABOUT
02:53:18LETTING COUNTRIES HAVE ACCESS TO AI CHIPS, WHICH AI CHIPS ARE
02:53:22REALLY EVEN SIGNIFICANT FOR AI
02:53:23DEVELOPMENT?
02:53:28WELL, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD, GOOD
02:53:38HANDLE ON THE AI CHIP ALLOCATION, AND I WOULD DISPUTE. I THINK YOU DON'T KNOW ROBERT OPPENHEIMER WAS NOT A PHYSICIST.
02:53:42MAYBE YOU WERE HUNG UP ON DEGREES. >> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.
02:53:46I NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. KIM, FOR 5
02:53:47MINUTES.
02:53:55REP. KIM: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN,
02:53:56AND SECRETARY BESSENT, GOOD TO
02:54:02SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I WANT TO START BY THANKING YOU
02:54:06FOR YOUR GREAT WORK IN LAUNCHING THE TRUMP ACCOUNTS EARLIER THIS YEAR AND YOUR HARD WORK HAS
02:54:08ACTUALLY CREATED A LIFETIME OF
02:54:12OPPORTUNITY THAT, COMBINED WITH
02:54:15YOUR FINANCIAL LITERACY EFFORTS, WILL UPLIFT THE AMERICAN WORKING
02:54:17FAMILIES.
02:54:20AS WE CONSIDER EXTENDING THIS SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, I'VE BEEN
02:54:24TRAVELING UP AND DOWN MY DISTRICT, AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY,
02:54:26REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
02:54:31SO I HAVE INTRODUCED SOME LEGISLATION, SEEDS ACT, TO
02:54:32CODIFY THIS.
02:54:36SO, WHAT WOULD BE EARLY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED ON TRUMP ACCOUNTS AND ALSO YOUR THOUGHTS
02:54:40ON THE SEEDS ACT? I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. SEC. BESSENT: SO I THINK THE
02:54:43TRUMP ACCOUNTS, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT BENEFIT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE SINCE THE GI BILL.
02:54:47AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT DECADES ADVOCATING FOR FINANCIAL
02:54:50LITERACY, I THINK THAT THIS WILL
02:55:01BE A REAL-TIME FINANCIAL LITERACY EXPERIMENT, AND I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A GENERATION. A GENERATION OF SHAREHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE MANY PEOPLE,
02:55:05SOME IN THIS ROOM WHO HAD ADVOCATED FOR BABY BONDS, THIS
02:55:08IS GIVING EVERY AMERICAN A PIECE
02:55:14OF OUR GREAT CAPITAL MARKETS, OF
02:55:27OUR INNOVATION, AND MAKING THEM, YOU KNOW, REALIZE THE POWER OF COMPOUNDING AND WHAT WE'VE DONE AT TREASURY. WE HAVE BETWEEN 7 AND 8 MILLION
02:55:30FAMILIES WHO SIGNED UP THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WITHIN A MONTH
02:55:32WE WILL HAVE 70 MILLION. BECAUSE WE WILL GO TO AUTO
02:55:36ENROLL. KEEP IN MIND THAT HUGE NUMBERS
02:55:39OF THESE FAMILIES ARE MAKING
02:55:44LESS THAN $200,000, LESS THAN
02:55:45$100,000, AND HAD NO EXPOSURE TO
02:55:50THE EQUITY MARKET.
02:55:51REP. KIM: I TRULY BELIEVE THAT
02:55:59WE HAVE TO COUPLE THESE FINANCIAL LITERACY COURSES WITH TRUMP ACCOUNTS. SO HOPEFULLY EITHER INCORPORATING IT OR MANDATING
02:56:03THIS FINANCIAL LITERACY PROGRAM AND CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT TRUMP ACCOUNTS AT SCHOOLS WILL BE GREAT. WOULD YOU AGREE?
02:56:06SEC. BESSENT: YES, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AT
02:56:09TREASURY, WE'VE CREATED 15 LEARNING MODULES AND BOTH FOR
02:56:11CHILDREN, THE BENEFICIARIES OF
02:56:15THE ACCOUNT -- THERE'S A
02:56:21FOUR-YEAR-OLD, THERE'S A SIX-YEAR-OLD, BUT IMPORTANTLY, MANY OF THESE ARE FAMILIES WHO HAVE NEVER, MAYBE THE TERM WALL
02:56:24STREET, MAYBE THEY CLICK THROUGH .
02:56:29I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A REAL INTEREST HERE.
02:56:30IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT
02:56:38FAMILIES DO AROUND THE TABLE, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE 38% OF HOUSEHOLDS WHO HAVE NO
02:56:42EQUITY EXPOSURE TO MAKE IT 100%. REP. KIM: AND I'LL JOIN YOU
02:56:45RIGHT THERE, KEEP ON TALKING
02:56:49ABOUT IT. SEC. BESSENT: AND HAVE AN OWNERSHIP NATION.
02:56:53REP. KIM: SO I WANT TO GO TO TALK ABOUT THE TAIWAN NONDISCRIMINATION ACT, WHICH IS
02:56:56MY BILL THAT WAS PASSED AS PART
02:56:57OF NDAA LAST YEAR AND THIS
02:57:01LEGISLATION DIRECTS THE IMF REPRESENTATIVE TO USE THE US VOICE AND VOTE TO SUPPORT TAIWAN'S MEMBERSHIP IN IMF.
02:57:04SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK, AS
02:57:09TAIWAN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO TAIWANESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AND AS THEY GET READY TO
02:57:12FORMALLY SUBMIT A REQUEST TO
02:57:19JOIN IMF, I HOPE U.S. WILL USE OUR VOICE TO SUPPORT THEIR PETITION TO JOIN OR ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SO AS SOON AS
02:57:22POSSIBLE. SEC. BESSENT: WE'RE AWARE OF
02:57:26YOUR BILL. REP. KIM: GREAT. THANK YOU. AND AS CHAIRMAN, OUR FORMER
02:57:30CHAIRMAN MCHENRY OFTEN USED TO
02:57:32SAY ECONOMIC SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY AND STRONG
02:57:36TAIWAN IS OUR BEST TOOLS TO.
02:57:39-- TO COUNTER CHINESE ECONOMIC
02:57:44COERCION. SO ANOTHER ASPECT OF CHINESE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT CONCERNS ME IS THEIR USE OF STATE CORPORATION AND PREDATORY
02:57:47LENDING TO DOMINATE CRITICAL MINERAL SUPPLY CHAIN AND CONTROL
02:57:51ENERGY STRUCTURE. WE HAVE STRONG INNOVATIVE
02:57:55PRIVATE COMPANIES, BUT THEY CANNOT GO UP AGAINST CCP ON
02:57:58THEIR OWN.
02:58:00THIS IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY, WHICH IS WHY I
02:58:04INTRODUCED DOMINANCE ACT.
02:58:18UH, THIS WILL STRENGTHEN OUR
02:58:21GLOBAL, UH, CRITICAL MINERAL SUPPLY CHAINS AND SECURE OUR ENERGY FUTURES. BUT OUR MULTILATERAL BANKS ALSO
02:58:25PROVIDE KEY AVENUE TO COUNTER PREDATORY CHINESE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
02:58:26SO COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT AND
02:58:31WHAT THE US SHOULD BE DOING
02:58:34DIFFERENTLY THROUGH THE WORLD BANK AND OUR OWN INSTITUTIONS TO COMPETE WITH CHINA?
02:58:37SEC. BESSENT: SURE. SO AS WE DID WITH THE G20 IN
02:58:40ASHEVILLE, WE ARE PUSHING FOR GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE COUNTRIES DO NOT GET INTO A DEBT TRAP WITH RAPACIOUS LENDING AS WE'VE SEEN
02:58:44FROM CHINA.
02:58:45REP. KIM: THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
02:58:50SECRETARY, AND I YIELD BACK. >> THANK YOU, MS. KIM.
02:58:53MR. SECRETARY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY.
02:58:55WITHOUT OBJECTION, ALL MEMBERS
02:58:59WILL HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL WRITTEN QUESTIONS FOR THE WITNESS TO THE CHAIRMAN. THE QUESTIONS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE WITNESS FOR HIS RESPONSE.
02:59:03MR. SECRETARY, PLEASE RESPOND NOT LATER THAN OCTOBER 20.
02:59:06THIS HEARING IS ADJOURNED. [GAVEL]
02:59:10>> THANK YOU.
02:59:15>> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
02:59:21SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THESE SANCTIONS.
02:59:22>> WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO THIS
02:59:26COUNTRY IS DISGUSTING. DO YOU SUPPORT THE AMERICAN
02:59:29PEOPLE OR DO YOU SUPPORT GOLDMAN SACHS?
02:59:34DO YOU SUPPORT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OR DO YOU SUPPORT EMBEZZLEMENT BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION? DO YOU WANT TO STARVE CUBA? DO YOU WANT TO STARVE IRAN?
02:59:38YOU ARE A DISGUSTING DISGRACE. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
02:59:40>> TIME TO GO.
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02:59:48WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS CAPTION CONTENT AND ACCURACY. VISIT NCICAP.ORG] >> BEST IDEAS CAN BE FOUND ANYWHERE.
02:59:51>> WE HAVE TO LISTEN SO WE CAN GOVERN BETTER >> DEMOCRACY
02:59:54DEPENDS ON STABILITY.
02:59:56>> BRIDGING THE DIVIDE IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
03:00:00>> YOU CAN FIND AREAS WHERE YOU DO AGREE.
03:00:04>> CHRIS AND I ARE ACTUALLY FRIENDS.
03:00:07HE VOTES WRONG ALL THE TIME, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY FRIENDS.
03:00:09>> SCOTT AND I ACTUALLY RESPECT EACH OTHER.
03:00:12>> WE DON'T HATE EACH OTHER.
03:00:14>> WE ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE EACH OTHER.
03:00:17>>'S EYES TO BE WITH A MEMBER WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
03:00:21ABOUT. >> YOU GUYS DID AGREE TO THIS ABILITY.
03:00:24>> HE IS MY SON $10.
03:00:27>> THAT'S FIGHTING WORDS.
03:00:29>> I'M NOT IN CHARGE.
03:00:31>> THERE ARE NOT SHOWS LIKE THIS
03:00:36INCENTIVIZING THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
03:00:37>> "CEASEFIRE," FRIDAY NIGHTS ON
03:00:43C-SPAN. ANNOUNCER: ON WEDNESDAY, FEDERAL
03:00:47RESERVE CHAIR KEVIN WARSH WILL HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE COLORING
03:00:51-- FOLLOWING THE FED'S DECISION ON WHETHER TO RAISE INTEREST RATES. THIS COMES AFTER THE CONSUMER
03:00:54PRICE INDEX ROSE IN AUGUST AND
03:00:56AT A HIGHER RATE THAN EXPECTED. WATCH LIVE AT 2:30 P.M. EASTERN
03:01:00ON C-SPAN3, C-SPAN NOW, OR
03:01:07ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG.
03:01:10>> DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR
03:01:15GOVERNOR IN GEORGIA HELD A NEWS
03:01:16CONFERENCE AND TALKED ABOUT DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT, CRITICIZING
03:01:20THE REPUBLICAN OPPONENT RICK JACKSON FOR HIS INVOLVEMENT IN
03:01:23THE INDUSTRY. THE NONPARTISAN COOK POLITICAL REPORT AND INSIDE ELECTIONS
03:01:27RATES THE RACE A TOSSUP.
03:01:41>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, IT'S
03:01:46OFFICIALLY AFTERNOON, SO GOOD
03:01:49AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, FOR BEING
03:01:51HERE. I AM EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY
03:01:55BECAUSE OF THIS TOPIC. WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND DATA CENTERS AND THE COMMUNIT
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