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00:00:00THERE ARE OVER 20,000 TILES
00:00:02ON THIS VEHICLE AND 80% OF THEM
00:00:04ARE ORIGINAL TO DISCOVERY'S FIRST FLIGHT IN 1984.
00:00:08SOME OF THIS EVIDENCE GOES ALL
00:00:11THE WAY BACK TO 1984 AND IT'S
00:00:13ONE OF THE FUNNIEST THINGS ABOUT BEING THE CURATOR, SOMETIMES
00:00:17PEOPLE WILL SAY IT LOOKS DIRTY, WHY DON'T YOU CLEAN IT?
00:00:21THAT'S NOT DIRT, IT'S EVIDENCE OF HARD WORK.
00:00:24>> THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION'S
00:00:26NATIONAL AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM'S
00:00:29JENNIFER LAVASSER ON "Q&A."
00:00:32YOU CAN LISTEN TO "Q&A" ON OUR
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00:00:39>> MORE CAMPAIGN 2026 COVERAGE
00:00:42NOW FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT'S WHERE REPUBLICAN
00:00:46CANDIDATES VYING FOR THE PARTY'S NOMINATION FOR U.S. SENATE TOOK
00:00:49PART IN A DEBATE AHEAD OF TUESDAY'S SPECIAL PRIMARY ELECTION.
00:00:53THE CANDIDATES, INCLUDING THE LATE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM'S
00:00:57SISTER, DARLINE, DISCUSSED THE
00:00:59ECONOMY, HEALTHCARE, THE WAR IN
00:01:02IRAN AND SENATOR GRAHAM'S LEGACY.
00:01:05THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT WRITES THE GENERAL ELECTION SOLID
00:01:09REPUBLICAN
00:01:27>> SOUTH CAROLINA NOMINATES ITS
00:01:29NEXT G.O.P. CANDIDATE FOR THE
00:01:32U.S. SENATE. TONIGHT, FIVE CANDIDATES
00:01:36ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM ACROSS THE STATE. THE FIVE CANDIDATES SELECTED BY
00:01:40THE SOUTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR TONIGHT'S HISTORIC
00:01:44DEBATE, RUSSELL FRY, DARLINE
00:01:47GRAHAM, MARK LYNCH, RALPH NORMAN AND MARK SANFORD.
00:01:50ALSO JOINING US, SIX PANELISTS.
00:01:53JOEY HUDSON WITH WORD RADIO,
00:01:55KELLY NASH WITH IHEARTRADIO, AND
00:01:59WENDY DANLON WITH PALMETTO PROMISE INSTITUTE.
00:02:02JOINING US FROM OUR SOUTH
00:02:07CAROLINA GRAY MEDIA STATION,
00:02:09ANNA HARRIS AND ERIC WISEFELD IN
00:02:15MYRTLE BEACH.
00:02:17>> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO OUR
00:02:20WIS STUDIOS IN COLUMBIA IN SOUTH
00:02:24CAROLINA. THE FIVE CANDIDATES PARTICIPATING IN TONIGHT'S
00:02:26DEBATE WERE SELECTED BY THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY BASED ON
00:02:29AN AGGREGATE OF EARLY POLLING DATA.
00:02:32CANDIDATES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
00:02:35YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED THE RULES FOR DEBATE THIS EVENING.
00:02:38WE'LL COVER AS MUCH GROUND AS WE CAN.
00:02:40WE'LL START WITH OPENING STATEMENTS AND ACCORDING TO THE ORDER THAT THE POLLING IS
00:02:44REVEALING IN THE LATEST NUMBERS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST.
00:02:47THAT MEANS MR. SANFORD, WE START WITH YOU.
00:02:50THE FLOOR IS YOURS FOR 45 SECONDS.
00:02:53>> IT'S A TREAT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT AND I
00:02:56APPRECIATE THE CHANCE. FOR MANY OF YOU, I'VE REPRESENTED YOU IN CONGRESS.
00:02:59STILL MORE, I'VE REPRESENTED YOU AS GOVERNOR.
00:03:03I'VE STARTED A BUSINESS AND
00:03:04BUILT IT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
00:03:08I'M A DAD, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M A GRANDDAD.
00:03:11I THINK THAT ALL OF US WOULD AGREE ON A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES,
00:03:15WHETHER IT'S A SECURE BORDER OR THE IMPORTANCE OF A LITTLE BOY
00:03:19NOT COMPETING WITH A LITTLE GIRL
00:03:21ON THE SOCCER FIELD OR WANDERING
00:03:24INTO THE RESTROOM BUT THERE IS
00:03:28ONE DISTINGUISHING FACTOR I BRING TO THE TABLE, THE
00:03:31IMPORTANCE OF THE NATIONAL DEBT
00:03:33AND IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR LIVES, AFFORDABILITY AND THE AMERICAN DREAM.
00:03:36I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. LYNCH?
00:03:39>> I'M MARK LYNCH, LIFE-LONG
00:03:42SOUTH CAROLINIAN, BORN IN GREENVILLE.
00:03:45MARRIED 48 YEARS.
00:03:48I'M A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN GREENVILLE. WE'VE OPERATED A FAMILY BUSINESS
00:03:51IN OUR 74TH YEAR UNDER MY
00:03:55LEADERSHIP GROWING THE BUSINESS 35 TIMES IN THE LAST 40 YEARS DEBT-FREE.
00:03:59I UNDERSTAND BUDGETS. I UNDERSTAND TACKLING THE GIANTS WE FACE EVERY DAY.
00:04:03I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO WIN IN
00:04:05OUR BUSINESS EVERY DAY WITH
00:04:07EVERY ISSUE SERVING CUSTOMERS AND MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF
00:04:11THEM BETTER THAN OUR COMPETITION OR WE WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.
00:04:14I KNOW WHAT BEING DEBT-FREE
00:04:17MEANS AND WE CAN'T PRINT MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR IN OUR BUSINESS
00:04:21AND WE CAN'T DO THAT IN GOVERNMENT. IT'S TIME TO TACKLE THOSE ISSUES
00:04:25CAUSING OUR DEBT AT $39 TRILLION.
00:04:28>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. FRY?
00:04:29>> I WAS BORN IN SURFSIDE BEACH
00:04:33WITH NO HEATER OR AIR CONDITIONING.
00:04:37MY PARENTS WORKED HARD FOR EVERY DOLLAR TEACHING US THE VALUE OF
00:04:41HARD WORK AND RESPONSIBILITY. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN EVERY
00:04:45DOLLAR MATTERS BECAUSE MY FAMILY LIVED IT. TOO MANY FAMILIES ARE WONDERING
00:04:49HOW TO FILL UP GAS, PROVIDE GROCERIES FOR THEIR FAMILY OR
00:04:52AFFORD A HOME.
00:04:55USED TO SAY YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE.
00:04:58TONIGHT I WANT YOU TO LISTEN
00:05:00CLOSELY TO THAT RECORD.
00:05:06FROM -- I'M RUSSELL FRY AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE IN THE PRIMARY.
00:05:09>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. GRAHAM? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS.
00:05:13MY FAMILY AND I ARE TRULY APPRECIATIVE.
00:05:16WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLED, I ANSWERED, BECAUSE I'M A A HARD
00:05:20WORKER AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE HIS ENDORSEMENT.
00:05:21I'M NOT A POLITICIAN BUT I HAVE
00:05:25A SERVICE HEART. I GREW UP IN THE BACK OF A BAR
00:05:29AND LIQUOR STAR WHERE I LEARNED A WORK ETHIC AND VALUE OF A DOLLAR.
00:05:32FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS I'VE WORKED HARD FOR THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH
00:05:35CAROLINA HELPING THEM FIND JOBS AND LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.
00:05:38I MANAGED AN AGENCY WITH 130
00:05:42EMPLOYEES AND $90 MILLION BUDGET. I WANT TO CONTINUE WORKING HARD
00:05:46FOR THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND I WANT TO EARN YOUR VOTE.
00:05:49>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. NORMAN? >> I'M RALPH NORMAN.
00:05:52THANK YOU FOR ALL JOINED BY THE TV.
00:05:56I'M A 40-YEAR BUSINESS -- BEEN IN BUSINESS 40 YEARS.
00:06:00I'VE GOT A RECORD THAT IS THE
00:06:03MOST CONSERVATIVE THAT I'M PROUD OF. MY RESUME IS MY RECORD.
00:06:07I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR THE
00:06:10NEXT SIX YEARS BECAUSE I WANT TO
00:06:12TAKE THAT TO WASHINGTON, D.C.
00:06:15AND I THINK NOW IS THE TIME BECAUSE WE ARE THE TIPPING POINT
00:06:17IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN SO MANY
00:06:21WAYS AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CHALLENGE, EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECTS OF WHAT WE BRING AND
00:06:25IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW DAY FOR A GREAT STATE LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA,
00:06:29WE CAN TAKE THAT ON TO REST OF THE COUNTRY. THANK YOU.
00:06:32>> CANDIDATES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SETTING THE STAGE FOR VOTERS TONIGHT.
00:06:36WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL GET INTO QUESTIONS FROM THE PANELISTS.
00:06:38WELCOME BACK TO TONIGHT'S SC
00:06:42G.O.P. DEBATE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING VOTERS ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS
00:06:46TONIGHT SO THEY CAN EVALUATE YOUR POLICIES.
00:06:49OUR FIRST QUESTION FROM JOEY
00:06:52HUDDLEON WITH WORD RADIO IN THE
00:06:57THE UPSTATE.
00:06:58>> WOULD YOUR PRIMARY
00:07:04RESPONSIBILITIES BE TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S AGENDA OR
00:07:08REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH CAROLINA EVEN IF
00:07:11THEY DIFFER WITH THE PRESIDENT'S. >> MR. SANFORD?
00:07:14>> I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG DISTINGUISHING ELEMENTS IN THIS RACE.
00:07:18I HAVE AGREED WITH THE PRESIDENT OVERWHELMINGLY, WHEN WE
00:07:22OVERLAPPED IN CONGRESS, I VOTED WITH HIM 90% OF THE TIME.
00:07:25BUT WHERE I DISAGREED I HAVE DISAGREED AND I THINK THAT'S THE
00:07:29AMERICAN WAY. IT'S OK OCCASIONALLY TO DISAGREE
00:07:31ON THINGS THAT ARE TIED TO SPENDING, THINGS TIED TO THE
00:07:35CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK OF OUR GOVERNMENT OR THINGS TIED TO LOCAL INTERESTS HERE AT HOME.
00:07:39THAT IS WHAT I DID DURING OUR
00:07:41OVERLAP SO I THINK IT'S BOTH. YOU NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR THE
00:07:45GUY WHO'S RUNNING POINT BUT YOU GOT TO WATCH OUT FOR FOLKS AT
00:07:48HOME AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THERE'S REAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN
00:07:52MYSELF AND SOME OF THE FOLKS ON THIS DAIS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE
00:07:55SIT ON THAT FRONT, FOR INSTANCE, THE AUTHORIZATION OF WAR.
00:07:59>> I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
00:08:01THE PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED TO BE OUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.
00:08:05OVER 80 MILLION PEOPLE SUPPORTED HIM IN THAT ENDEAVOR.
00:08:08HE IS THE COACH. IN CONGRESS IT IS FRUSTRATING
00:08:11FOR CONSERVATIVE VOTERS TO CONSTANTLY SEE PEOPLE GRANDSTAND
00:08:15AND JUMP UP AND DOWN AND OPPOSE
00:08:19HIM. THE PRESIDENT HAS ALWAYS HAD AN OPEN-DOOR POLICY.
00:08:23WHEN YOU DISAGREE, HE HAS AN OPEN PHONE LINE.
00:08:26WE FACE MARXISM IN THIS COUNTRY,
00:08:30RADICAL LEFT MOVING INTO CONGRESS AND WINNING NOMINATIONS.
00:08:33PEOPLE ELECTED US TO SECURE THE
00:08:35BORDER, CUT YOUR TAXES, REIN IN
00:08:37THE OUT-OF-CONTROL BUREAUCRACY
00:08:40AND GET THE JOB DONE, NOT
00:08:42GRANDSTAND AND GET IN THE WAY. >> MR. NORMAN?
00:08:45>> IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE,
00:08:49THE THOUGHTS OF KAMALA HARRIS WERE COMPLETELY RADICAL.
00:08:53WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S DONE, I LIKE HIS AGENDA.
00:08:56THE AMERICA FIRST AGENDA IS SECURE THE BORDER, CUT THE
00:09:00TAXES, MAKE SURE OUR MILITARY IS
00:09:03PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH.
00:09:04HE'S SET THE RIGHT COURSE AND HE
00:09:08HAS -- HE LIKES PEOPLE WHO CAN
00:09:09DISAGREE WITH HIM AND THE FACT
00:09:12THAT HE HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT
00:09:15JOB, AND I JUST THINK HE HAS.
00:09:18YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH HIM. HE LOVES COMPETING IDEAS.
00:09:21THAT'S HOW HE MAKES THE FINAL DECISION. TYPICALLY IT'S THE RIGHT
00:09:25DECISION.
00:09:26>> MRS. GRAHAM, HOW WOULD YOU
00:09:30RECONCILE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT'S AGENDA AND WHAT'S BEST FOR SOUTH CAROLINA?
00:09:33>> I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE
00:09:36PRESIDENT'S AGENDA. I'M 100% BEHIND HIM.
00:09:40I'M HONORED TO HAVE HIS ENDORSEMENT.
00:09:41I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON
00:09:45THE RUSSIA SANCTIONS DEAL, I
00:09:49CO-SPONSORED THE SAVE AMERICA
00:09:52ACT BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT WE GET IT PASSED.
00:09:56IF IT WERE UP TO THE DEMOCRATS, THEY WOULD OPEN OUR BORDERS AND
00:09:59HAVE EVERYONE IN HERE INTERFERING WITH ELECTIONS AND
00:10:03PRESIDENT TRUMP STANDS AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS.
00:10:07>> I SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP. I VOTED FOR HIM SIX TIMES.
00:10:10HE WON ALL THREE TIMES. WE KNOW HIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN IN 2020.
00:10:14I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT AMERICA FIRST AND SOUTH CAROLINA.
00:10:18THAT'S WHO I WORK FOR. SO IT'S GOOD.
00:10:22IRON SHARPENS IRON. IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, I'LL
00:10:25GO TO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND TELL
00:10:29HIM WHAT I THINK AND WE'LL COME UP WITH THE BEST DECISION AFTER
00:10:32PRAYER AND DISCUSSION AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
00:10:36WE ALWAYS COME TOGETHER AND FIND
00:10:39WITH MANY COUNSELORS COMES
00:10:41SUCCESS SO WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT WE NEED TO AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO
00:10:45BRING UP A QUESTION OR SOMETHING I DON'T THINK IS RIGHT WITH ANYBODY.
00:10:49THAT'S WHAT I DO IN LIFE. WITH THAT COMES THE BEST DECISIONS.
00:10:52>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT QUESTION THIS EVENING
00:10:55COMES FROM JUSTIN DOUGHERTY IN GREENVILLE.
00:10:59>> A RECENT PEW RESEARCH STUDY
00:11:03FOUND 24% OF AMERICANS CONSIDER
00:11:05THE CURRENT ECONOMY EXCELLENT OR
00:11:08GOOD DESPITE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PROMISE TO BRING DOWN PRICES,
00:11:12THE COST OF LIVING IS INCREASED, ESPECIALLY THE COST OF
00:11:16GROCERIES. WHAT CAN YOU DO AS SENATOR TO
00:11:19LOWER PRICES AND MAKE EVERYDAY
00:11:21ESSENTIALS MORE AFFORDABLE. >> MR. FRY?
00:11:24>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL GET BACK TO THE BASICS.
00:11:27I FOCUS ON THE FAMILY-FIRST AGENDA AND PART OF THAT -- ONE
00:11:30OF THOSE TENETS IS CERTAINLY
00:11:33SECURITY, PEOPLE FEELING SAFE IN
00:11:36THEIR COMMUNITIES BUT IT'S ALSO THE ECONOMY. I'M NOT A WEALTHY MAN.
00:11:40BUT I KNOW WHAT THE CHALLENGES AND HOW THAT FEELS WHEN YOU'RE
00:11:43WORKING HARD FOR EVERY DOLLAR TO
00:11:44TRY TO STAY AFLOAT, I THINK IT'S
00:11:47IMPORTANT TO HAVE MORE ENERGY PRODUCTION IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:11:50ENERGY IS THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF A LOT OF THE ANGST THAT PEOPLE
00:11:54FEEL. I THINK THAT REALLY IS A KEY. I THINK WE NEED TO GET
00:11:57WASHINGTON BUREAUCRATS OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT OUR FARMERS CAN
00:12:01DO THE JOB THEY WANT TO DO AND PROVIDE FOOD FOR OUR FAMILIES.
00:12:05THESE ARE ALL HALLMARKS OF A --
00:12:07AND CHIEF AMONG THOSE ARE KEEP YOUR TAXES LOW.
00:12:10>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:12:13MR. NORMAN, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO
00:12:17IMPROVE AFFORDABILITY? >> PRESIDENT TRUMP INHERITED AN
00:12:20ECONOMY THAT WAS A DISASTER FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
00:12:23LOOK WHAT HE'S DONE IN THE SHORT TIME HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE.
00:12:25HE'S STOPPED THE FLOW OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY.
00:12:29THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL, WHICH GAVE THE TAXPAYERS MORE OF THEIR
00:12:33MONEY BACK.
00:12:34I HELPED MAKE IT EVEN STRONGER.
00:12:37WHEN THE WAR'S OVER, PRICES WILL
00:12:39COME DOWN AND I THINK HE'LL MAKE
00:12:43IT MORE AFFORDABLE WITH HIS POLICIES IN GENERAL AND IT'S
00:12:46TAKEN A WHILE TO RECOVER FROM WHAT JOE BIDEN DID
00:12:50INTENTIONALLY. >> MRS. GRAHAM, WHAT WOULD YOU
00:12:53DO TO IMPROVE AFFORDABILITY ON
00:12:56HOUSING TO DAYCARE?
00:12:57>> WE HAVE OVER FIVE MILLION
00:13:01PEOPLE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 50% OF THEM LIVE PAYCHECK TO
00:13:05PAYCHECK. 60% OF THEM DON'T HAVE A RAINY
00:13:08DAY FUND WHICH MEANS THEY CAN'T MAKE IT THREE MONTHS. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
00:13:12PAY BILLS FOR THREE MONTHS.
00:13:14UNFORTUNATELY, I'M IN THAT 60 PERCENTILE.
00:13:17I HAVE BEEN IN THAT PERCENTILE FOR A LONG TIME. I TRUST PRESIDENT TRUMP.
00:13:21I KNOW HE'S WORKING ON THINGS. I THINK THE FARM BILL WILL BE
00:13:25VERY HELPFUL TO HELP FARMERS TO DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF GROCERIES.
00:13:29BRINGING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE GREAT
00:13:32JOB WITH THAT AND I CERTAINLY
00:13:35SUPPORT THAT. AND COMPETITION IN HEALTHCARE,
00:13:38TRANSPARENCY IN PRICING ON MEDICAL PROCEDURES.
00:13:42>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. LYNCH, WHAT SPECIFIC POLICY
00:13:44IDEAS DO YOU HAVE TO BRING AFFORDABILITY DOWN?
00:13:47>> AS A SUCCESSFUL DEBT-FREE BUSINESSMAN AND HAVING TRAVELED
00:13:51THE STATE OVER 15 MONTHS IN THIS CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RE BACK IN TO
00:13:53FINISH, WE'VE HEARD FROM SOUTH
00:13:55CAROLINIANS SUFFERING. THEIR PAIN POINTS.
00:13:58HOW DO WE GET RID OF THE AFFORDABILITY PROBLEMS?
00:14:01NUMBER ONE, STOP SPENDING. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO IN MY BUSINESS.
00:14:05WE CAN'T BRITAIN MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR.
00:14:07WE HAVE TO BUST UP MONOP HE'S
00:14:11PRICE FIXING HOMES.
00:14:14ONE YOUNG REPUBLICAN SAID I APPRECIATE YOUR STANCE ON IMMIGRATION AND CLOSING THE
00:14:18BORDER BUT I'M AN ENGINEERING
00:14:21MAJOR AND I'M COMPETING AGAINST FOREIGN STUDENTS THAT THEIR
00:14:23COUNTRY PAID FOR THEIR TWOITION COME TO THIS COUNTRY, THEY'LL
00:14:26TAKE MY JOB FOR HALF THE PAY, ROBBING ME OF MY FUTURE AND I
00:14:30WAS BORN IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:14:31WE'VE GOT TO END H-1B VISAS.
00:14:36>> MR. SANFORD?
00:14:39>> IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RECORD WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR, WE SAW THE
00:14:43FIRST CUT TO THE GROCERY TAX, THE FIRST CUT TO PROPERTY TAX.
00:14:47WE SAW THE LOWEST RECURRING TAX IN SOUTH CAROLINA HISTORY.
00:14:50I COULD GO DOWN A LONG LIST IN
00:14:52TERMS OF TRYING TO WATCH WATCH OUT FOR THE TAXPAYER.
00:14:55IF YOU LOOK AT THE 10-YEAR TREASURE, IT'S CROWDING UP,
00:14:58RAISING MORTGAGE RATES WHICH MAKES LIFE LESS AFFORDABLE FOR
00:15:01THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO.
00:15:05YOU CAN'T SAY I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT ON ALL
00:15:08MATTERS AND NOT SEE THE SPENDING
00:15:09PROBLEM THAT IS IN D.C.
00:15:13REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN BAD ON IT AND DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN BAD ON IT.
00:15:16HAVE THE DEMOCRATS BEEN WORSE? ABSOLUTELY.
00:15:19BUT WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM IN D.C. BORNE OF BOTH PARTIES
00:15:23AND I BRING SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THE TABLE. >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM
00:15:27KELLY NASH WITH IHEARTRADIO HERE IN COLUMBIA.
00:15:31>> THE NATIONAL DEBT IS RUNNING
00:15:33AT ABOUT $7.7 BILLION PER DAY.
00:15:41WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO LEAD US
00:15:43BACK TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY? >> SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED
00:15:47THE DEBT. MR. NORMAN?
00:15:49>> FIRST OF ALL, THE DEBT, THE
00:15:52INTEREST ON THE DEBT, $43
00:15:55TRILLION, PICK A FIGURE ABOVE THAT, EXCEEDS OUR MILITARY
00:15:58SPENDING. WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT.
00:16:00I HATE, HATE IT IF WE CONTINUED
00:16:03THE SPENDING SPREE THAT WE'RE ON AND IT'S BY DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS BUT PARTICULARLY BY
00:16:07THE DEMOCRATS WHO WANT TO END
00:16:09OUR WAY OF GOVERNMENT.
00:16:12SO YOU TAKE, THE DOGE COMMISSION
00:16:18BUT YOU HAVE TO ACT ON IT. CONGRESS ONLY CAME UP WITH $9
00:16:22BILLION. WE HAVE TO BALANCE NEW SPENDING
00:16:25WITH CUTS LIKE DO YOU IN BUSINESS AND LIKE EVERY FAMILY
00:16:29HAS TO DO. >> MRS. GRAHAM, YOUR IDEAS FOR
00:16:32LEADING US TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY? >> RIGHT NOW OUR NATIONAL DEBT
00:16:35IS OVER $39 TRILLION.
00:16:39SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
00:16:40TO STOP GROWING GOVERNMENT AND
00:16:43GROW THE ECONOMY INSTEAD. WE NEED -- TRUMP HAS DONE A
00:16:47GREAT JOB, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
00:16:49DONE A GREAT JOB CUTTING FRAUD,
00:16:52STOPPING DISLOCATION IN GOVERNMENT. I'M BIG -- I WAS BIG HERE IN
00:16:56SOUTH CAROLINA ON NOT BEING A
00:17:00PROPONENTS OF DISLOCATION OF GOVERNMENT IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
00:17:02TO ME THAT'S WASTING TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS.
00:17:05JUST CUTTING FRAUD, CUTTING
00:17:07SPENDING, GROWING THE ECONOMY,
00:17:09BRINGING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA AND AGAIN, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
00:17:12DONE A GREAT JOB ON THAT. >> MR. LYNCH, PRESIDENT TRUMP
00:17:16DID PROMISE TO CUT THE NATIONAL DEBT BUT AS EVERYONE HAS POINTED
00:17:19OUT, IT'S BEEN ESCALATING. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM AND WHAT'S THE FIX?
00:17:22>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, LIKE MR. NORMAN VOTED ON A BILL THAT
00:17:25PUT $3.1 BILLION TO SUPPORT
00:17:30MIGRATION AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY.
00:17:34THAT'S MONEY WE DON'T HAVE THAT
00:17:35WE'RE PAYING TO HELP THE PROBLEM
00:17:39ESCALATE.
00:17:41THESE IMMIGRANTS, ILLEGAL ALIENS
00:17:43COMING IN HERE, 50 MILLION LEGAL
00:17:46IMMIGRANTS ARE HERE AND 70% ARE ON WELFARE. WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR.
00:17:50WE'RE PAYING FOR THE DEMISE OF
00:17:51OUR DEBT TO GROW AND GROW AND
00:17:55NOBODY'S ATTACKING THE PROBLEM AT THE ROOT LEVEL CAUSING IT.
00:17:58AMERICA FIRST IS SUPPORTING AMERICA, NOT ILLEGALS, FUNDING
00:18:02TO BRING THEM INTO THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:18:06MR. SANFORD, YOU MENTIONED -- MR. NORMAN, DID YOU WANT A
00:18:10REBUTTAL? >> MR. LYNCH, I HAVE BEEN VOTED
00:18:12THE MOST CONSERVATIVE MEMBER OF CONGRESS EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE.
00:18:16I VOTED AGAINST THE OPEN BORDERS
00:18:20SO TO MAKE THAT CLAIM IS SILLY
00:18:24AND I GUESS SILLY SEASON IS HERE ON BOGUS CLAIMS.
00:18:28I WOULD NEVER GET THE RATINGS
00:18:30I'VE GOTTEN BY ANY MEANS BY ANY
00:18:33AGENCY SO IT'S JUST BOGUS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
00:18:35>> WE'LL GO BACK TO MR. SANFORD. THE MAIN QUESTION ABOUT THE
00:18:39DEBT, YOUR IDEAS TO ADDRESS AND REIN IN THE NATIONAL DEBT?
00:18:43>> IT COMES BACK TO ROLLING UP
00:18:46THE SLEEVES AND ELBOW GREASE.
00:18:49THIS IS WHAT I DID AS GOVERNOR. WE HELD THE LINE ON GOVERNMENT
00:18:53SPENDING IN THE EIGHT YEARS I WAS GOVERNOR AS NO GOVERNOR HAS
00:18:56BEFORE OR SINCE.
00:18:58AND THEREFORE WITH DUE RESPECT
00:19:00TO, FOR INSTANCE, MY COLLEAGUE
00:19:04CONGRESSMAN FRY, HE WAS
00:19:06OVERRIDING VETOES OF, FOR INSTANCE, NIKKI HALEY, OR, FOR
00:19:11INSTANCE, GOVERNOR MCMASTER.
00:19:13AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS MORE OF
00:19:15THE TALK ON THIS FRONT BECAUSE
00:19:17IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT LIMITING
00:19:20GOVERNMENT SPENDING BUT I
00:19:23REMEMBER CARRYING TWO PIGS TO DECRY PORK BARREL SPENDING AHEAD
00:19:26OF THAT WHICH WE WERE MANDATED
00:19:29TO DO IN HOLDING THE LINE ON SPENDING.
00:19:33>> I THINK ABOUT MY SON, JAMES, 9 YEARS OLD.
00:19:36WHAT IS THE FUTURE HE WILL HAVE
00:19:38AND INHERIT?
00:19:41EVERY GENERATION OF AMERICANS HAVE HANDED THIS COUNTRY OFF BETTER THAN THEY FOUND IT.
00:19:45WILL THIS BE THE FIRST JERNS --
00:19:49GENERATION THAT SAYS, WE MESSED UP. WE HAVE TO GET THE NATIONAL DEBT
00:19:53RIGHT. THE KEY IS TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.
00:19:57BEYOND THAT, IT IS EASY TO TALK ABOUT CUTTING SPENDING.
00:20:00THE GAO ESTIMATES THAT $500
00:20:03BILLION WALKED OUT OF THE U.S. TREASURY EVERY YEAR IN WASTE,
00:20:06FRAUD AND ABUSE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLACE TO START.
00:20:09DOGE IS ANOTHER GOOD PLACE TO START. AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SIMPLY
00:20:13CUT. WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
00:20:15BUT WE HAVE TO GROW THE ECONOMY
00:20:17FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS, MAKE SURE WE HAVE -- >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:20:21LET'S GET TO OUR NEXT QUESTION,
00:20:23FROM ANNA HARRIS AT WCSC IN
00:20:27CHARLESTON. >> SOUTH CAROLINA'S UTILITY GRID
00:20:29IS FACING UNPRECEDENTED STRAIN
00:20:32FROM RAPID DATA CENTER AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH.
00:20:34AS SENATOR, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO
00:20:37BALANCE ATTRACTING ENERGY INTENSIVE BUSINESSES AND
00:20:41ENSURING RELIABLE, AFFORDABLE
00:20:42POWER AND WATER FOR EVERYDAY
00:20:46SOUTH CAROLINIANS. >> MRS. GRAHAM, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
00:20:49THE PRESIDENT RECENTLY MADE THE STATED THAT COMMUNITIES AROUND
00:20:52THE COUNTRY NEED TO GET WITH THE
00:20:54PROGRAM WITH DATA CENTERS. DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM?
00:20:56>> I DO AGREE WITH HIM.
00:20:59WE CAN'T LET CHINA GET AHEAD IN
00:21:03THIS TECHNOLOGY COMPETITION. THEY CAN'T CONTROL A.I.
00:21:07THEY CAN'T CONTROL TECHNOLOGY. I THINK WE NEED TO BUILD DATA
00:21:11CENTERS HERE AND I THINK THE
00:21:13TECH COMPANY SHOULD BUILD THE POWER PLANT TO SUPPLY THE DATA
00:21:17CENTERS BECAUSE THAT WAY IT DOESN'T DRAW UP UTILITY COSTS
00:21:21FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN OR THE
00:21:23AVERAGE SOUTH CAROLINIAN. THE DEMOCRATS, THEY DON'T WANT
00:21:27THE DATA CENTERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY?
00:21:31THEY DON'T LIKE THE NOISE OF THE DATA CENTERS BUT WE HAVE TO
00:21:35REMAIN COMPETITIVE AGAINST CHINA. THAT'S JUST A FACT.
00:21:39>> HOW WOULD YOU BALANCE DATA
00:21:43CENTERS WITH THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE POWER AND WATER?
00:21:46>> DATA CENTERS HAVE BECOME A BIG ISSUE.
00:21:49IT IS A PAIN POINT FOR SOUTH CAROLINIANS.
00:21:51WE'RE TIRED OF WAKING UP AND
00:21:54SEEING 100 ACRES OF TREES BULLDOZED AND WE'RE TOLD THE
00:21:57DATA CENTER WILL GO NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS HORRIBLE NOISE POLLUTION.
00:22:01THEY'RE ROBBING OUR WATER. TAKES MILLIONS OF GALLONS TO
00:22:05COOL DATA CENTERS AND IT CAUSES OUR ELECTRIC UTILITIES INCREASE.
00:22:09WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INFLATION AND AFFORDABILITY.
00:22:13WE HAVE TO HAVE THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE A SAY ON WHERE
00:22:16THEY'RE PUT AND WE'RE BRINGING
00:22:19IN BLOCK CAMERAS AND THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM AND MOVING TOWARDS
00:22:22A SURVEILLANCE STATE WITH FLOK
00:22:24CAMERAS. I'M THE ONLY ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
00:22:28THAT'S A HORRIBLE INVASION OF
00:22:31OUR AMERICAN CITIZEN PRIVACY.
00:22:34>> MR. SANFORD, THE QUESTION IS
00:22:36ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND BALANCING IT WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS?
00:22:39>> I THINK IT'S A TWO-FOLD ANSWER.
00:22:43AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL YOU NEED ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
00:22:45GETS US IN LINE IN LOOKING AT
00:22:49THE WAYS IN WHICH THE UNITED STATES WILL COMPETE WITH CHINA
00:22:52AND WE CANNOT FALL SECOND TO CHINA ON THIS FRONT.
00:22:55TIED THAT, YOU NEED THE NOTION OF FEDERALISM, LOCAL CONTROL.
00:22:59I THINK THE DESANTIS
00:23:01ADMINISTRATION IN FLORIDA GOT IT
00:23:03RIGHT WITH A STANDARD AND WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE THE DATA
00:23:06CENTER GOES, THAT'S A LOCAL DECISION.
00:23:09YOU CANNOT HAVE A DATA CENTER
00:23:11TAKING LOCAL WATER OR DRIVING UP ELECTRIC PRICES TO THE EXCLUSION
00:23:15OF A LOCAL VOICE IN THAT PROCESS.
00:23:18SO I THINK IT'S A BIFURCATED ANSWER.
00:23:21THE FEDERAL POLICY THAT
00:23:23ENCOURAGES LOCAL CONTROL. >> THE PRESIDENT SAID SMART
00:23:27COMMUNITIES ARE BEGGING FOR DATA CENTERS.
00:23:28DO YOU AGREE AND WHAT WHAT DO
00:23:32THE PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES LOOK LIKE?
00:23:35>> WE'RE IN A RACE WITH CHINA ON WHO IS GOING TO CONTROL A.I.,
00:23:39WHO'S GOING TO CONTROL THESE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES.
00:23:43THE USE OF DATA CENTERS IS IMPORTANT FROM A NATIONAL
00:23:46PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO, TOO, PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED AND RIGHTFULLY -- DATA CENTERS
00:23:49AREN'T MEANT FOR EVERY COMMUNITY. IF THEY'RE RIGHT FOR A CERTAIN
00:23:53COMMUNITY, THEY SHOULD HAVE ONE.
00:23:55IF THEY DON'T WANT ONE, THEY
00:23:57SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO SWALLOW
00:24:00THAT SO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA IS CLEAR.
00:24:02DATA CENTERS MUST PAY THEIR OWN
00:24:04WAY IN POWER, PAY THEIR OWN WAY IN WATER.
00:24:08THEY CAN'T HAVE NOISE POLLUTION.
00:24:10THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE LEAST
00:24:12AMOUNT OF FOOTPRINT POSSIBLE AND
00:24:14MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT SUCKING UP THE RESOURCES THAT OUR CITIZENS ENJOY.
00:24:18>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. NORMAN, YOUR STANCE ON DATA CENTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA?
00:24:21>> DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE AMOUNT OF
00:24:25WATER USAGE, ELECTRIC USAGE. EACH COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO TAKE
00:24:29OWNERSHIP IN IT.
00:24:30YOU CAN'T LET THEM RUN WILD.
00:24:34OUR UTILITY RATES, MONOPLIES ARE
00:24:38CONTROLLING IT. THE CALLS I GET FROM THE SINGLE
00:24:42MOM AND BUSINESS OWNER, UTILITY RATES ARE SKYROCKETING.
00:24:46NUCLEAR ENERGY IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE BUT HAS TO BE DONE IN
00:24:50AN EDUCATED WAY. IN SOUTH CAROLINA WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUBLIC/PRIVATE
00:24:54GROUPS GETTING INVOLVED WITH ENERGY AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE
00:24:57SURE THAT IT'S AFFORDABLE BEFORE
00:25:00ANY PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE SPENT, WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING.
00:25:04>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S MOVE TO OUR NEXT QUESTION
00:25:06COMING FROM WENDY DANLON WITH
00:25:09THE PALMETTO PROMISE INSTITUTE.
00:25:12>> MANY HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT
00:25:14FOR THE STAY BACK BUT JOHN THUNE
00:25:17SAYS REPUBLICANS DO NOT HAVE THE VOTES TO OVERCOME A FILIBUSTER
00:25:21OR CHANGE SENATE RULES TO PASS IT. IF ELECTED, WHAT IS YOUR
00:25:25REALISTIC PATH TO GETTING THE LEGISLATION ENACTED?
00:25:28>> MR. LYNCH, STARTING WITH YOU. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS YOUR
00:25:32REALISTIC PATH TO GETTING THE LEGISLATION ENACTED?
00:25:35>> WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLAYBACK
00:25:42AND IT'S A SHAME WE HAVE TO WITH
00:25:43ALL THE ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT HAVE COME INTO THIS COUNTRY SO WE
00:25:47ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE AN I.D.
00:25:50AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP BUT THAT'S ALL.
00:25:53WE HAVE TO HAVE A CLEAN SAVE ACT.
00:25:56IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TIED TO MORE PORK AND OTHER THINGS THEY'RE SNEAKING IN.
00:26:00WE HAVE THE NDAA CONNECTED TO
00:26:02THAT RECENTLY AND THAT'S PASSED
00:26:06IN THE HOUSE AND IT CAME FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE PASSED THE SAVE ACT.
00:26:09WE CAN'T MERGE OUR MILITARY INTELLIGENCE WITH ANY OTHER
00:26:14FOREIGN COUNTRY AND GIVE THEM ALL OF OUR SECRETS.
00:26:17THAT'S LOSING AMERICAN
00:26:20SOVEREIGNTY IN OUR COUNTRY WE HAVE TO PROTECT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:26:23MR. SANFORD, YOUR POSITION ON THE SAVE ACT?
00:26:25>> I HAVE TO SAY WE'RE LIVING IN CRAZY TIMES. THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR OF NEW
00:26:29YORK NOW WANTS TO REQUIRE AN
00:26:32I.D. TO USE ONE OF THE
00:26:35GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED GROCERY STORES IN NEW YORK YET YOU DON'T
00:26:38NEED OUT-- I.D. TO TAKE A VOTE?
00:26:43I SUPPORT THE SAVE ACT AND I
00:26:45WOULD SAY JOHN THUNE DOESN'T HAVE THE REPUBLICAN VOTE.
00:26:49IT GOES BACK TO HAVING STALWART REPUBLICAN VOTES ON CORE
00:26:53CONSERVATIVE ISSUES AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO LOOK
00:26:56AT MY VOTING RECORD. NOT MY WORDS.
00:26:58BUT MY VOTING RECORD AND WHAT WE
00:27:02WERE ABLE TO DO AS GOVERNOR IN
00:27:05ENACTING POLICIES TO BETTER PEOPLE'S LIVES IN SOUTH CAROLINA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:27:09MR. FRY, YOU'RE ALREADY IN OFFICE. WHAT'S BEEN THE GRIDLOCK AND HOW
00:27:13WOULD YOU PUSH THROUGH IT? >> THIS IS THE PROBLEM IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND THE PROBLEM
00:27:16WITH THE SENATE. YOU HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED THE
00:27:19SAVE AMERICA ACT THAT 80% OF THE
00:27:22AMERICAN PEOPLE PLUS AGREE WITH THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AN I.D. TO
00:27:25VOTE, THAT YOU SHOULD BE A CITIZEN TO VOTE IN AMERICAN ELECTIONS.
00:27:29IT'S PASSED THE HOUSE FOUR TIMES. FOUR. THE SENATE HAS DONE NOTHING.
00:27:33THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
00:27:34SOMEHOW PARTISAN AND DIVISIVE
00:27:37WHEN IT CROSSES THE POTOMAC.
00:27:41THE SENATE NEEDS TO BE SHAKEN UP. THE OLD WAY IS NOT THE WAY TO DO
00:27:46THINGS NOW. IF THAT MEANS CHANGING THE RULES OF THE SENATE AND CHANGING THE
00:27:50FILIBUSTER, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THAT.
00:27:52THERE ARE 200 BILLS IN THE
00:27:56SENATE WAITING TO BE PICKED UP,
00:27:58THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. >> WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THE SAVE
00:28:02ACT IS IMPORTANT AND WHAT WOULD
00:28:03YOU DO TO HELP SECURE THE THE PASSAGE?
00:28:07>> THE SAVE ACT, FOR THIS NOT TO
00:28:09PASS THE SENATE IS AN ABOMINATION.
00:28:13THE FOUNDERS WOULD BE ASTONISHED THIS IS HAPPENING.
00:28:15I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO
00:28:17MAKE THE CASE FOR ABOLISHING THE
00:28:22FILIBUSTER. KEEP THEM UP ALL NIGHT AND MAKE THEM TALK.
00:28:26IF A WALKING FILIBUSTER WON'T
00:28:28WORK, TRY ANY OTHER MEANS.
00:28:31WE PASSED IT THREE OUR FOUR TIMES IN THE HOUSE.
00:28:35WE'LL TRY IT THROUGH RECONCILIATION WHERE YOU ONLY
00:28:37HAVE TO HAVE 50 VOTES, 51 VOTES WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT.
00:28:41THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT BILL
00:28:42IN THIS COUNTRY, PROTECTING OUR
00:28:45ELECTIONS AND MAKING SURE AMERICANS VOTE AND ONLY AMERICANS VOTE.
00:28:49>> MRS. GRAHAM, SAME QUESTION? >> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID
00:28:53WAS CO-SPONSOR THE SAVE AMERICA ACT.
00:28:55AS I SAID EARLIER, I'M WILLING
00:28:57TO STAY THROUGH RECESS TO GET IT DONE.
00:29:01WHAT'S UP WITH RECESS ANYWAY? WHO GETS A MONTH OFF FROM WORK?
00:29:04I THINK WE SHOULD STAY UP THERE AND WORK AND GET IT DONE.
00:29:07YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN I.D. TO CHECK OUT A LIBRARY BOOK, TO BUY
00:29:11ALCOHOL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN I.D. TO VOTE? THAT'S ABSURD.
00:29:15IN NEW JERSEY, THEY HAD 6,600
00:29:19PEOPLE, NON-CITIZENS, REGISTERED
00:29:23TO VOTE AND SEVERAL HUNDRED OF
00:29:25THEM DID ROTE IN OUR ELECTION
00:29:28AND I AM ALL FOR -- THIS IS
00:29:34WHY -- GETTING RID OF THE FILIBUSTER TO GET THERE DONE. EVENTUALLY THE DEMOCRATS ARE
00:29:38GOING TO GET RID OF IT ANYWAY. >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM WNBS
00:29:42IN MYRTLE BEACH. >> REPUBLICANS HAVE ALREADY
00:29:43TRIED AND FAILED TO REPEAL OBAMACARE.
00:29:47DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL.
00:29:50HEALTHCARE IS SHAPING UP TO BE A BIG ISSUE IN NOVEMBER.
00:29:53WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER FOR FIXING
00:29:55AMERICA'S HEALTHCARE SYSTEM?
00:29:58>> MR. SANFORD, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
00:30:00WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS AND POLICIES FOR ADDRESSING THE HEALTHCARE CRISIS?
00:30:03>> WHEN I WAS IN CONGRESS I
00:30:06AUTHORED THE ALTERNATIVE TO OBAMACARE WITH THE CONSERVATIVE
00:30:09SOLUTION AND IT WAS A CONTENTION
00:30:12AND RESTED ABOUT THIS IDEA OF PERSONALIZED SAVINGS ACCOUNTS OF
00:30:16A VARIETY OF THINGS BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE LINCHPIN BECAUSE IF
00:30:19YOU LOOK AT THE IDEA OF CHANGING THE DYNAMIC AND THERE'S
00:30:23UNLIMITED DEMAND TO SPEND BASICALLY SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY
00:30:26AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH THE THIRD-PARTY PAYER
00:30:29SYSTEM AND THIS WAS MOVING US TO
00:30:31A PRIMARY PAYER SYSTEM WHEREIN
00:30:36PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND DRAW DOWN ON THAT
00:30:40ACCOUNT. IT HAD A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS
00:30:43TIED TO TORT REFORM AND AND IN
00:30:48ESSENCE ENABLING THE CUSTOMER TO HAVE MORE CHOICES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:30:51MR. FRY, YOUR IDEAS FOR MAKING
00:30:53HEALTHCARE MORE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE?
00:30:56>> I THINK IT STARTS IN THE BIG,
00:31:00BEAUTIFUL BILL, THERE'S A
00:31:03HEALTHCARE CLAUSE CREATED. IT SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU THREE
00:31:06HOURS TO DRIVE TO THE NEAREST HOSPITAL WHEN THERE'S AN
00:31:10EMERGENCY. SUPPORTING RURAL COMMUNITIES IS VITAL. BEYOND THAT, THERE'S TREMENDOUS
00:31:14FRAUD AS WE'VE SEEN IN GOVERNMENT REPORTS IN HEALTHCARE.
00:31:17WE HAVE STATES BILKING THE
00:31:20TREASURY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. IF WE'RE GOING TO SUSTAIN
00:31:24MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SOLVENT AND
00:31:28DOING THE JOB AS INTENDED. DEMOCRATS WANT TO BANKRUPT THAT SYSTEM.
00:31:32WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE FRAUD AND THE WASTE, GET STATES ON
00:31:35PARITY WITH THE COSTS. THAT'S HOW YOU SAVE HEALTHCARE
00:31:38AND LOWER COST.
00:31:40PRICE TRANSPARENCY IS A KEY. >> MR. NORMAN?
00:31:44>> ONE THING I THINK MOST
00:31:47AMERICANS CAN AGREE ON, OBAMACARE IS NOT WORKING.
00:31:50PELOSI SAID YOU HAVE TO PASS IT BEFORE YOU READ IT.
00:31:54IT'S NOT WORKING. WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO HEALTH
00:31:57SAVINGS ACCOUNTS WITH DEDUCTIBILITY FOR BUSINESSES.
00:32:00WE HAVE TO GIVE ALL AMERICANS A
00:32:02REASON TO PICK WHAT THEY WANT
00:32:06COVERED INSTEAD OF MANDATORY COVERAGE.
00:32:08THE WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY AND THAT'S THE
00:32:11TIP OF THE ICEBERG BUT BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GOT TO GET THE
00:32:15HEALTHCARE THAT FITS EVERYDAY AMERICANS. IT'S NOT WORKING NOW.
00:32:18THE PREMIUMS ARE OUT OF CONTROL. FOR THAT SINGLE MOM AND THAT
00:32:22BUSINESS STRUGGLING TO PAY THE PREMIUMS, WE'VE GOT TO COME UP
00:32:25WITH A PLAN THAT'S WORKABLE AND GET IT THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
00:32:29>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MRS. GRAHAM, YOUR SPECIFIC IDEAS
00:32:32FOR MAKING HEALTHCARE FOR
00:32:34ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR SOUTH CAROLINIANS?
00:32:37>> WE HAVE TO PROTECT MEDICARE.
00:32:43THE HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE KILLING SOUTH CAROLINIANS.
00:32:45IT CAN EASILY BANKRUPT A FAMILY. I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS WITH
00:32:49SERIOUS HEALTHCARE ISSUES. ONE HAS HAD BRAIN SURGERY AND
00:32:53SHE CONTINUES TO BE IN AND OUT OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
00:32:56SO MEDICAL BILLS ARE JUST
00:32:58RACKING UP AND IT IS CRAZY.
00:33:01WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. TRANSPARENCY IN PRICING I THINK
00:33:04IS ONE WAY. IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL PROCEDURE,
00:33:08YOU NEED TO KNOW UP FRONT THE COST OF IT SO THAT YOU CAN SHOP AROUND.
00:33:12IF YOU BUY GROCERIES OR A CAR,
00:33:14YOU KNOW THE PRICE SO YOU CAN SHOP AROUND. THIS CREATES COMPETITION AND
00:33:18DRIVES DOWN THE COST. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:33:22MR. LYNCH, YOUR ANSWER ON THIS ISSUE? >> ABSOLUTELY.
00:33:24OBAMACARE'S BEEN A DISASTER. DAVE RAMSEY TALKED ABOUT IT, IF
00:33:28WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR EVERYBODY'S HEALTHCARE, IT'S
00:33:31GOING TO GO UP FOR EVERYBODY. THOSE OF WHITE HOUSE CAN AFFORD TO PAY IT, IT'S REALLY STILL OUT
00:33:36OF REACH AND IT'S OUT OF REACH FOR MANY FAMILIES.
00:33:39THERE'S A PRICE FIXING ISSUE IN THE INDUSTRY. EVERY TIME WE RENEW OUR
00:33:43HEALTHCARE IN OUR BUSINESS, WE LOOK AT SEVERAL AGENCIES.
00:33:47THE PRICE IS THE SAME FROM EVERYBODY. THE COMPETITION'S BEEN
00:33:50ELIMINATED. THE DOCTORS ARE VYING FOR THEIR
00:33:54FAIR SHARE. THERE'S A CASH PRICING AND
00:33:56INSURANCE PRICE WHICH IS CRAZY. WHEN YOU HAVE A BILL THAT'S
00:33:5910,000 PAGES, THERE'S ALL KIND
00:34:01OF PORK THAT NOBODY'S EVER READ, THERE'S NO WAY TO READ THAT.
00:34:05OBAMA THREATENED TO CLOSE THE COUNTRY DOWN AND CLOSE THE
00:34:08GOVERNMENT DOWN UNLESS WE SIGN THE BILL.
00:34:10THAT'S NOT R NOT -- HOW WE DO.
00:34:13>> OUR NEXT QUESTION FROM JOEY HUDSON AT WORD RADIO.
00:34:17>> BORDER SECURITY IS A TOP CONCERN AMONG REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
00:34:21BEYOND SIMPLY SECURING THE BORDER, WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO
00:34:24ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ENTERED THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY?
00:34:27>> MR. FRY?
00:34:29>> I THINK IT STARTS WITH FUNDING, WITH SUPPORTING OUR LAW
00:34:33ENFORCEMENT AND BACKING THE BLUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
00:34:34I THINK WE'VE DOWN THAT IN THE
00:34:37BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL AND HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDING PROVISIONS.
00:34:40IF WE DON'T HAVE A BORDER, WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTRY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS
00:34:43RIGHT. IT DOESN'T JUST STOP AT BORDER SECURITY.
00:34:46WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES THAT BIDEN USED TO IMPORT
00:34:49MILLIONS OF PEOPLE INTO THIS COUNTRY. I THINK ABOUT THE COST OF RENT
00:34:53FOR A FAMILY. THAT WAS DRIVEN UP BECAUSE OF
00:34:55THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
00:34:59I THINK ABOUT THE HOSPITAL THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HAVE THEIR FIRST CHILD AT.
00:35:02THAT'S TAKEN UP BECAUSE THERE'S AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN THIS
00:35:06COUNTRY. USE THE TOOLS, CHANGE THE RULES,
00:35:09GET RID OF ASYLUMS AND PATROL
00:35:13LOOPHOLES AND DEPORT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELONG HER.
00:35:16>> MR. NORMAN, WHAT WOULD YOU SUPPORT IN BORDER SECURITY?
00:35:20>> WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IS RIGHT. FINISH BUILDING THE WALL, HAVE A
00:35:23SYSTEM THAT YOU GET ILLEGALS OUT
00:35:25OF THE COUNTRY AND I REMEMBER
00:35:28VISITING THE BORDER EARLY ON AND FOOD, MEDICINE, CLOTHES WERE STACKED UP.
00:35:32LOOK AT THE COSTS THAT HAS BEEN BORNE BY AMERICANS WHO HAD NO
00:35:35SAY-SO IN THIS. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DID
00:35:38THIS TO CREATE A VOTING BLOCK SO
00:35:40IT WOULD KEEP THEM IN POWER.
00:35:42SO GET THEM OUT.
00:35:45MAKE SURE SANCTUARY CITIES ARE
00:35:48NOT FUNDED. IF YOU DON'T ABIDE WITH POLICE OFFICERS, DON'T FUND THEM.
00:35:52THAT'S THE WAY TO SAVE MONEY AND PUT COMMON SENSE BACK INTO IT.
00:35:55HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING AND
00:35:57IT'S DESPITE MEDIA DISAPPROVAL, HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH THAT.
00:36:01>> MRS. GRAHAM, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS ISSUE?
00:36:04>> THIS IS EASY, ANOTHER REASON
00:36:08PRESIDENT TRUMP ENDORSED ME. I'D BE GLAD TO STAND WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
00:36:12ANYONE HERE ILLEGALLY NEEDS TO
00:36:16BE WALKED OUT OF OUR COUNTRY IMMEDIATELY.
00:36:18I'M ALL FOR SUPPORTING AND THE
00:36:22FUNDING I.C.E. I SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE A GREAT
00:36:25JOB PROTECTING OUR BORDERS. THESE PEOPLE COME IN, TAKE OUR
00:36:28JOBS, RUN UP THE COST OF HEALTHCARE BECAUSE THEY'RE
00:36:31RECEIVING FREE HEALTHCARE. I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE
00:36:34A FABULOUS JOB PROTECTING OUR BORDERS AND I'LL CONTINUE TO STAND WITH HIM.
00:36:38>> MR. LYNCH, ANY DAYLIGHT
00:36:41BETWEEN YOU AND YOU AND THE OTHER CANDIDATES ON THIS ISSUE?
00:36:44>> WE HAVE CAREER POLITICIANS ON
00:36:47THIS STAGE.
00:36:48MR. FRY ENDORSING LINDSEY GRAHAM
00:36:51AND MR. NORMAN VOTED ON THE ACT
00:36:55THAT BROUGHT 8,000 ILLEGAL AFGHANS INTO OUR COUNTRY.
00:36:58THAT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT. IT'S TIME TO BRING SOMEBODY IN THAT WILL DO THE RIGHT THING,
00:37:03WILL STAND UP TO THIS. OUR IMMIGRATION POLICIES ARE WRONG.
00:37:06WE NEED TO HAVE A MORATORIUM AND
00:37:08GET CAUGHT UP AND GET WITH
00:37:10I.C.E. AND BRING IN THE 287-G
00:37:13PROGRAMS TO LOCAL CITY POLICE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ALLOWS
00:37:16THEM TO ARREST, DETAIN AND DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS LIKE
00:37:20I.C.E. DOES. THEY NEED A HAND AND WE NEED TO
00:37:23SUPPORT THAT WITH OUR LOCAL
00:37:26POLICE DEPARTMENTS. >> REBUTTAL? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S
00:37:29TALKING ABOUT WITH AMNESTY. I SUPPORTED LINDSEY GRAHAM IN
00:37:33THE FIRST PRIMARY BECAUSE HE STOOD WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP AND
00:37:36THE TRUMP AGENDA AND HE WAS A STALWART.
00:37:39HE DID A LOT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS STATE. I LOOKED AT THIS RACE WITH YOU
00:37:44AND SAID, WOW, THAT'S THE
00:37:45OPPONENT, SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO
00:37:48LEGALIZE ILLICIT DRUGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES? THAT'S NOT WHAT SOUTH CAROLINA
00:37:52WANTS.
00:37:53I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY
00:37:57PRESIDENT AND SENIOR SENATOR. >> MR. NORMAN?
00:37:59>> MR. LYNCH, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
00:38:03TO SAY I SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS NOT TRUE.
00:38:06IT'S SILLY SEASON WITH THOSE TRYING TO MAKE ISSUES OUT OF
00:38:10NONEXISTENT ISSUES. IMMIGRATION IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:38:13THE PRESIDENT IS FIXING IT AND
00:38:16I'LL STICK WITH HIM AND VOTE EVERY TIME TO GET THIS COUNTRY
00:38:19BACK ON TRACK WITH LEGAL
00:38:22IMMIGRATION, NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. >> MR. SANFORD, WE COME TO YOU
00:38:26ON THIS QUESTION AND REVERSE --
00:38:29REVERSE TIME TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS CLOSING
00:38:32STATEMENTS. MR. SANFORD, YOUR POSITION ON
00:38:36BORDER SECURITY? >> ABSOLUTELY AGREE AND I'VE VOTED ON THE IMPORTANCE OF
00:38:40BORDER SECURITY.
00:38:41SECURE BORDER IS A KEY TO
00:38:45SOVEREIGNTY. SAME ON SANCTUARY CITIES AND
00:38:49ADEQUATELILY FUNDING LAW ENFORCEMENT. I THINK ONE OF THE
00:38:52DISTINGUISHING ELEMENTS OF WHERE I COME FROM IS THE RESULTS AND
00:38:56THE SAME YOU SAW IN THE GOVERNORSHIP, HOLDING THE LINE ON SPENDING.
00:39:00WHAT YOU SAW ON THIS ISSUE IS REAL I.D.
00:39:03WE ENACTED IS WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR AND IT HAD A MATERIAL EFFECT.
00:39:06A LOT OF GOVERNORS WEREN'T DOING IT. A MATERIAL EFFECT BECAUSE NOW
00:39:10YOU WERE NOT JUST TRYING TO CATCH THE BAD GUYS, YOU WERE
00:39:13BASICALLY EMPOWERING LOCAL
00:39:15EMPLOYEERS TO SAY WE CAN'T HIRE
00:39:19YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR FINAL QUESTION FROM JUSTIN
00:39:22DOUGHERTY IN THE UPSTATE.
00:39:24>> THE WAR IN IRAN CONTINUES. WHEN IT BEGAN, IT WAS SAID IT
00:39:28WOULD LAST FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS.
00:39:30BUT NOW IT JUST ENTERED ITS
00:39:34SIXTH MONTH. AMERICAN TROOPS CONTINUE TO BE KILLED IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND
00:39:37THE COST OF THE WAR INCREASES. DO YOU THINK IT IS NOW TIME TO
00:39:41END THE WAR IN IRAN AND IF SO,
00:39:45HOW DO YOU WANT TO SEE IT END? >> AGAIN, CANDIDATES, WE DO NOT
00:39:47HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL SO IF YOU CAN FOCUS PRECISELY ON THIS
00:39:51QUESTION ABOUT ENDING THE WAR IN IRAN, MR. NORMAN?
00:39:55>> IRAN HAS BEEN AT WAR WITH AMERICA FOR 44 YEARS. THEY KILLED AMERICAN TROOPS
00:39:59DURING THAT TIME. THE FACT THE PRESIDENT HAS TAKEN
00:40:02OUT THE NUMBER ONE SPONSOR OF
00:40:05TERROR, COMPARE THAT TO WHAT
00:40:07BIDEN DID, OBAMA DID, HE DIDN'T
00:40:11DO THAT. HE'S DISABLED MOST OF THE MILITARY. IT HAS GONE ON LONGER BUT THE
00:40:15PRESIDENT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN.
00:40:17THERE ARE MILITARY GENERALS NOW SAYING IT'S GOING TO REALLY
00:40:21ELIMINATE THEM, THEY'LL HAVE TO PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND. I DON'T THINK THE COUNTRY WANTS
00:40:24THAT RIGHT NOW. I THINK HE WILL EVENTUALLY
00:40:28SOONER RATHER THAN LATER USE WHATEVER POWER FROM THE AIR TO
00:40:31TAKE THEM OUT AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT COURSE TO TAKE.
00:40:34>> MRS. GRAHAM, IS IT TIME TO END THE WAR IN IRAN AND HOW?
00:40:37>> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH
00:40:41PRESIDENT TRUMP ON STANDING WITH ISRAEL.
00:40:43THEY ARE AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
00:40:46ALLY OF THE UNITED STATES.
00:40:48WE CANNOT ALLOW TERRORISTS TO
00:40:51BUILD NUCLEAR MISSILES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KILL AMERICANS.
00:40:55THAT'S JUST THE SAD TRUTH.
00:40:56IF THEY BUILT A NUCLEAR
00:41:01MISSILES, THEIR GOAL IS TO KILL US. SO THE MORE WE CAN FIGHT THEM
00:41:04THERE AND PREVENT IT OVER THERE, THE BETTER OF THE UNITED STATES.
00:41:08I'M ALL FOR PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. I BELIEVE IN PEACE THROUGH
00:41:11STRENGTH FOR SURE. THE DEMOCRATS, ON THE OTHER
00:41:14HAND, WANT TO TO DEFUND EVERYTHING, JEOPARDIZE OUR
00:41:17ENTIRE COUNTRY, OUR NATIONAL
00:41:20SECURITY, SO WE WOULD BE IN A HUGE MESS.
00:41:23>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. LYNCH, YOUR POSITION ON THE WAR IN IRAN?
00:41:27>> I SUPPORT THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, PRESIDENT
00:41:30TRUMP, TO DEFEND OUR NATION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND
00:41:33DOMESTIC. HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE BEEN
00:41:35OVER THERE, WE'VE GONE IN.
00:41:38WE'VE HAD PRECISE STRATEGIC
00:41:42TACTICAL ATTACKS AND WE CAN'T
00:41:44ALLOW IRAN TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.
00:41:47IT'S TIME TO BRING OUR MEN AND WOMEN HOME TO GET THEM OUT OF
00:41:50HARM'S WAY AND GET BACK TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN AMERICA AND
00:41:55THAT'S ATTACKING THE PRICES OF OUR FUEL, BRINGING THAT BACK
00:41:57DOWN AND INCREASING AFFORDABILITY SO THAT OUR YOUNG
00:42:01GENERATION, WHEN THEY LEAVE AND GO OUT, THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY A
00:42:04HOME AND PAY FOR THEIR GAS AND GROCERIES AGAIN AND HAVE THE
00:42:07DREAM WE'VE ALL ENJOYED IN THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:42:11MR. SANFORD, IS IT TIME TO END THE WAR? IF SO, HOW?
00:42:13>> IT'S A DIFFERENT DECISION.
00:42:16I APPLAUD THE PRESIDENT, AGAIN,
00:42:18GOING AFTER A NUCLEAR IRAN,
00:42:22SOMETHING THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. I APPLAUD HIS EFFORT TO WIPE OUT
00:42:25TERRORISM FROM THAT PART OF THE WORLD. BUT IT IS MY VERY STRONG
00:42:28BELIEF -- WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR I TRIED TO GO TO EVERY FUNERAL OF
00:42:32SERVICEMEN LOST IN THE MIDDLE
00:42:35EAST THAT WERE BROUGHT HOME.
00:42:38AND IT'S A VERY HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO BE IN THE CHURCH
00:42:42OR SOMEBODY'S HOUSE THAT THEY'VE LOST A LOVED ONE.
00:42:45ONLY CONGRESS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECLARE A WAR.
00:42:49THIS DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE BY CONGRESS AND I HAVE A LONG
00:42:51HISTORY AGAINST THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND THE CLINTON
00:42:55ADMINISTRATION IN SAYING THIS DECISION -- BODY BAGS COME BACK
00:42:59TO HOME STATES AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:43:02IS THERE ANY DAYLIGHTLY BETWEEN
00:43:06YOUOUN YOUR OPPONENTS ON THIS ISSUE?
00:43:08>> I THINK A NUCLEAR IRAN IS
00:43:11UNFOTHAMMABLE TO CON CONCEIVE.
00:43:14THEY WOULD DESTABILIZE THE MIDDLE EAST, THREATEN OUR
00:43:18REGIONAL PARTNERS AND THREATEN THE WEST.
00:43:20PRESIDENT TRUMP INHERITED THIS PROBLEM AND HE TOOK ACTION TO
00:43:24STOP THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO FINISH THE MISSION BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE
00:43:27RIGHT NOW IS THAT IRAN NEEDS TO BE DEFANGED. YOU WANT TO HATE US?
00:43:31GO AHEAD AND HATE US. BUT DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING THE
00:43:35MILITARY CAPABILITY TO STRIKE COMMERCE, THREATEN THE STRAIT OF
00:43:39HORMUZ AND REGIONAL PARTNERS.
00:43:41NO BOOTS ON THE GROUNDM.
00:43:45MY BROTHER SERVED IN IRAQ AND I'VE LOST FRIENDS IN FOREIGN
00:43:48WARS BUT WE CAN FINISH THE
00:43:51MISSION BY DEFANGING IRAN. >> CANDIDATES, WHEN WE COME
00:43:54BACK, WE'LL HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION AS PART OF YOUR CLOSING
00:43:58STATEMENTS TO SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
00:44:01WELCOME BACK TO OUR CLOSING
00:44:05COVERAGE OF THE SCGOP DEBATE.
00:44:09A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT DIRECTLY
00:44:14AFFECTS FAMILIES, BUSINESSES AND HOSPITALS.
00:44:16SOUTH CAROLINA HAS NOT EXPANDED MEDICAID THOUGH OUR FEDERAL
00:44:20DOLLARS IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE PAYING FOR IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE QUESTION IS, OBVIOUSLY
00:44:23OPPONENTS SAY IT GROWS THE GOVERNMENT BUT SUPPORTERS SAY
00:44:26THAT EXPANDING MEDICAID WOULD PROVIDE MORE COVERAGE FOR WORKING ADULTS.
00:44:30MY QUESTION IS THIS -- WHICH
00:44:32CARRIES MORE WEIGHT IN YOUR MIND
00:44:34AND IN YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT PROVIDE AN ANSWER IN TERMS OF
00:44:38HOW YOUR PLAN REPRESENTS THE
00:44:40BEST FUTURE FOR SOUTH CAROLINA.
00:44:43MR. SANFORD? >> IT'S A QUESTION OF GOVERNMENT
00:44:47WHICH IS IF WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, THEN WE CAN DO
00:44:51JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE ARE AT THE
00:44:54TIPPING POINT IN CIVILIZATION WHERE WE HAVE TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
00:44:58IT TOOK US 193 YEARS TO ACCUMULATE A TRILLION DOLLARS OF
00:45:01DEBT AND YET OVER THE NEXT 100
00:45:03DAYS WE'LL ADD ANOTHER TRILLION
00:45:07OF DEBT. THE NUMBERS ARE ASTOUNDING.
00:45:09SO THE QUESTION I THINK THAT REALLY IS BEFORE ALL OF US IS
00:45:13HOW DO WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
00:45:16I WOULD VOTE FOR EVERY CANDIDATE
00:45:19HERE BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SAID. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAVE THEY
00:45:23DONE? IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RECORD ON A
00:45:25HOST OF ISSUES TIED TO LIMITING
00:45:28GOVERNMENT, MAXIMIZING FREEDOM
00:45:30AND OLD-FASHIONED NOTION OF
00:45:32LIBERTY, I THINK YOU WOULD SEE
00:45:35REMARKABLE RESULTS IN ACTUALLY HOLDING THE LINE ON GOVERNMENT
00:45:38SPENDING WHICH I THINK IS THE RULE OF WASHINGTON.
00:45:42WITH DUE RESPECTS TO REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., THEY'VE NOT
00:45:45BEEN DOING THAT. PRESIDENT TRUMP NEEDS HELP ON
00:45:49THAT FRIEND. I -- FRONT.
00:45:52I WOULD SAY LOOK AT OUR RECORD. WE HELD THE LINE ON GOVERNMENT
00:45:56SPENDING AS NO GOVERNOR HAS BEFORE OR SINCE AND IT HAS REAL
00:45:59IMPLICATIONS WHETHER YOU THINK ABOUT THE NOTION OF AFFORDABILITY FOR FAMILIES ACROSS THE STATE.
00:46:03WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LARGER NOTION OF THE AMERICAN DREAM AND HOW WE ALL MIGHT BE ABLE TO
00:46:07ACHIEVE IT. WE HAVE TO TURN AROUND THE
00:46:10SPENDING TRAIN WRECK IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND I WOULD ASK
00:46:13YOU TO LOOK AT MY RECORD ON THAT FRONT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:46:15MR. LYNCH, YOUR POSITION ON THIS ISSUE OF MEDICAID EXPANSION?
00:46:19>> WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY AND
00:46:23THE GOLDEN YEARS OF THEIR LIFE BUT WE'VE GOT TO INVESTIGATE AND
00:46:27ANALYZE WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY WITH MEDICAID AND FIND
00:46:30THE WASTE, ABUSE AND FRAUD WITHIN THAT INDUSTRY, ALSO.
00:46:34WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO LET THINGS GO ON AND NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
00:46:37WE HAVE TO KEEP IT ACCOUNTABLE, INSPECT IT AND REQUIRE
00:46:40INSPECTIONS TO BE DONE INSTEAD
00:46:42OF FINDING OUT THE FRAUD LIKE
00:46:45WE'VE HEARD IN THE COUNTRY WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THE
00:46:47GOVERNMENT HAS, AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY FOR OUR SENIOR
00:46:51CITIZENS. ON THE ISSUE, I WANT TO TALK
00:46:54ABOUT WHAT MR. FRY SAID, REBUT
00:46:58BACK TO THAT. 42 YEARS AGO I CAME TO THE END
00:47:02OF MYSELF -- I WAS BROKEN
00:47:05SPIRITUALLY, FINANCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY, EVERY WAY.
00:47:08I CAME TO THE END OF A DRUG ADDICTION ISSUE AND SINCE THEN I
00:47:12MET MY WIFE IN A RECOVERY PROGRAM.
00:47:14WE HAVE COUNSELED THOUSANDS OF
00:47:18ADDICTS OUT OF A LIFE OF ADDICTION INTO FREEDOM IN CHRIST.
00:47:21THERE'S NO WAY I'M FOR
00:47:24LEGALIZING MARIJUANA AND COCAINE. THAT CAME FROM THE LINDSEY GRAHAM CAMP BACK THEN.
00:47:28THAT WAS AN ATTACK. IT WAS LIES. THAT'S HOW THEY DO THESE THINGS
00:47:32BECAUSE I'M A SERIOUS CANDIDATE AND THEY TRIED TO PUSH ME DOWN
00:47:35AND SPENT OVER $50 MILLION DOING
00:47:37THAT AND MR. NORMAN CALLS THIS FOOLISH.
00:47:41IN 2021 HE DID VOTE FOR THE
00:47:43ALLIES ACT THAT ALLOWED 8,000
00:47:48ILLEGAL AFGHAN IMMIGRANTS COME HERE.
00:47:52>> MR. FRY, YOUR POSITION ON THIS ISSUE OF MEDICAID EXPANSION
00:47:55AND YOUR CLOSING ARGUMENT TO VOTERS. >> I THINK SOUTH CAROLINA IS
00:47:59DOING THE FISCALLY PRUDENT THING
00:48:02NOT TO EXPAND MEDICAID BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE JOURNEY IT
00:48:06WILL COST THE STATE FAR MORE AND STATES ARE FEELING THE PINCH OF THAT ALREADY.
00:48:10THE UNITED STATES IS SENATE IS NO PLACE FOR ON-THE-JOB
00:48:14TRAINING, NO PLACE FOR GOING UP AND VOTING NO AND THINKING
00:48:17YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. THE OLD WAYS OF THE SENATE ARE BROKEN.
00:48:20WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE DONE.
00:48:23SOUTH CAROLINA DESERVES A
00:48:26FIGHTER AS ITS NEXT U.S.
00:48:28SENATOR, SOMEBODY WHO WILL STAND ALONGSIDE PRESIDENT TRUMP. I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE STAGE
00:48:32WITH A RECORD OF PASSING LEGISLATION IN FURTHERANCE OF
00:48:35PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA. MY MISSION IS CLEAR IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
00:48:39WE NEED TO KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS, PASS THE SAVE
00:48:42AMERICA ACT, INCREASE ENERGY PRODUCTION, PROTECT THE RIGHTS
00:48:46OF THE UNBORN, PROTECT YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND PUT
00:48:49MORE MONEY BACK IN YOUR POCKET.
00:48:51YOU CAN ELECT A POLITICIAN TO GO
00:48:53UP TO WASHINGTON AND PUSH YES OR
00:48:57NO AND COLLECT A PAYCHECK OR YOU CAN ELECT SOMEBODY WHO IS
00:49:00BALLOTS TESTED IN GETTING RESULTS FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE.
00:49:04I DIDN'T INHERIT A RECORD. I EARNED IT.
00:49:08AND A RECORD IS NOT A FINISH LINE.
00:49:10IT IS A STARTING POINT.
00:49:13MY SON, JAMES, IS 9 YEARS OLD
00:49:18AND MY WIFE AND I WONDER IF THIS
00:49:20IS THE FIRST GENERATION TO HAND OFF THE COUNTRY WORSE THAN THEY FOUND IT.
00:49:24I DON'T THINK SO.
00:49:24I THINK OUR OPPORTUNITY IS RIGH
00:49:32FIGHT FOR YOU. >> DO YOU SEE ANY VALUE IN TERMS
00:49:35OF EXPANDING MEDICAID, IN YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT?
00:49:39>> I CAUTION AGAINST EXPANDING
00:49:41MEDICAID BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
00:49:44INCREASE TAXES.
00:49:47BUT I WANT TO SAY I'M DIFFERENT
00:49:49FROM MOST POLITICIANS I'M NOT A POLITICIAN. I NEVER SAW MYSELF BEING A
00:49:53POLITICIAN. WE KNOW WHY I'M HERE.
00:49:54I THINK IT'S PART OF GOD'S PLAN.
00:50:00I KNOW THESE GUYS HAVE 30, 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE COMBINED.
00:50:04I'M NOT A POLITICIAN, I'M NOT A MILLIONAIRE.
00:50:07I UNDERSTAND THE AVERAGE STRUGGLES OF THE AMERICAN FAMILY.
00:50:11I AM PRO-LIFE, I DON'T BELIEVE
00:50:14IN BOYS IN MEN'S -- IN GIRL'S
00:50:18SPORTS. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY BELONG IN THE LOCK ERROOMS I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS.
00:50:21I BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
00:50:25I'M A BARGAIN SHOPPER BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE.
00:50:28I'LL DO ANYTHING IT TAKES TO HELP PASS THE SAVE AMERICA ACT
00:50:31BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT.
00:50:33I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN REBUT, BUT
00:50:37MR. LYNCH MENTIONED LINDSEY GRAHAM MULTIPLE TIMES.
00:50:39AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S JUST
00:50:41AFRAID LINDSEY BEAT HIM AND NOW HIS LITTLE SISTER IS GOING TO
00:50:45BEAT HIM BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
00:50:49>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS ON MEDICAID EXPANSION?
00:50:52>> NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION.
00:50:56WE HAVE SO MUCH WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE.
00:50:59LOOK AT THE SOCIAL SECURITY, THE
00:51:01HOST OF AGENCIES THAT NEED TO BE FINISHED.
00:51:05LOOK WE HAVE A SPIRITUAL PROBLEM
00:51:08FOR THE COUNTRY FOR THE HEART AND SOUL TO SAVE THE COUNTRY.
00:51:12THESE ARE NOT ENEMIES I'M STANDING WITH TODAY.
00:51:14IT'S THE RADICAL DEMOCRATS WE HAVE TO BEAT.
00:51:17I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN TAKE ON DEMOCRATS IN NOVEMBER.
00:51:21I'VE GOT A SOLID 40-YEAR
00:51:24BUSINESS CAREER. I'VE GOT A CONSERVATIVE RECORD
00:51:28THAT IS SECOND TO NONE BY ANY RATING AGENCY. I HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAND UP
00:51:32WITH THE FRONT LINE DOCTORS I
00:51:35STOOD HAND IN HAND WITH THEM.
00:51:37I WOULD GO IN THE SENATE, I WILL WAKE THEM UP, I WILL STAND UP
00:51:41AND I WILL SPEAK UP BECAUSE IT CAN'T KEEP GOING LIKE IT'S
00:51:45GOING.
00:51:45AND I WILL TELL YOU, MILK TOAST
00:51:49MODERATES WILL NOT WILL NOT MAKE
00:51:52IT TO GET THIS COUNTRY BACK WHAT WE NEED.
00:51:55I'M TIRED OF MODERATES, TIRED OF THOSE WHO SMILE AND SAY THEY'RE
00:52:00GOING TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. LOOK AT MY RECORD.
00:52:04YOU'VE SEEN ME FIGHT, WHAT I DO
00:52:06WHEN I'VE TAKEN THE TOUGH VOTES WHICH I WILL TAKE.
00:52:10NOBODY ELSE ON THIS STAGE CAN SAY THAT.
00:52:12BUT OUR REAL PROBLEM IS THE DEMOCRATS WHO WE HAVE TO STOP
00:52:15AND I WILL DO THAT IN NOVEMBER. >> CANDIDATES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:52:19WE WANT TO THANK OUR PANELISTS AS WELL.
00:52:22WE WANT TO THANK OUR AUDIENCE WHO JOINED US ON AIR AND ONLINE
00:52:25THESE EVENING.
00:52:27EARLY VOTING IN THE SPECIAL SC
00:52:30GOP SENATE PRIMARY OPENS THIS
00:52:32WEDNESDAY AND RUNS AUGUST 5TH
00:52:34THROUGH AUGUST 7TH, THIS WEEK,
00:52:378:30 A.M. UNTIL 5:00 P.M., CHECK YOUR COUNTY POLLING LOCATIONS
00:52:41FOR LOCATIONING AND HOURS. ALSO THE SPECIAL PRIMARY IS ON
00:52:45TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, OF COURSE
00:52:47ON ELECTION DAY THE POLLS WILL
00:52:49BE OPEN FROM 7:00 A.M. UNTIL 7:00 P.M..
00:52:52WE ENCOURAGE EVERY ELIGIBLE VOTER IN SOUTH CAROLINA TO MAKE
00:52:55A PLAN, TO CAST YOUR BALLOT AND
00:52:57MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VOICE IS HEARD.
00:53:00ON BEHALF OF US, THANK YOU FOR
00:53:02WATCHING.
00:53:14>> ON MONDAY, CALIFORNIA
00:53:17REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE STEVE HILTON SPEAKS AT THE
00:53:20COMMONWEALTH CLUB IN SAN FRANCISCO AFTER BEING SIFTED OUT
00:53:23OF A FIELD OF 60 CANDIDATES.
00:53:25HE NOW FACES JAVIER BESARAH TO
00:53:30SUCCEED GAVIN NEWSOM.
00:53:34CALIFORNIA HAS NOT ELECTED A
00:53:38REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR SINCE 2006.
00:53:42WATCH ON CSPAN, CSPAN NOW, OR
00:53:45ONLINE AT CSPAN.ORG. ON MONDAY, U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE
00:53:48MIKE COLLINS HOLDS A CAMPAIGN
00:53:51RALLY IN AUGUSTA, GEORGIA,
00:53:57ALONGSIDE RICK ALLEN.