CSPAN — Officials Holds News Conference on Combating Medicaid Fraud in Pennsylvania

20260810 06:39 UTC · 00:58:59 · 1095 transcript segments · GDELT Visual Explorer · plain-text transcript · Event Map

In Philadelphia, U.S. Assistant Attorney General for National Fraud Enforcement Colin McDonald announced criminal charges against 19 defendants for alleged fraudulent home health care schemes targeting Pennsylvania's Medicaid program, totaling $4 million. He said this work was building on federal efforts to crack down on alleged fraud in Minnesota and that the Justice Department was expanding operations in Philadelphia to further combat Medicaid fraud in the region. He was joined by Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Dr. Mehmet Oz and other federal and state officials.<br /><br />Sponsor: Department of Justice

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00:00:56NEARLY AN HOUR.
00:01:19>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS COLIN MCDONALD, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE
00:01:22NATIONAL FRAUD ENFORCEMENT
00:01:24DIVISION AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. EVERYWHERE WE LOOK, WE
00:01:28FIND FRAUD. HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS
00:01:32OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TAKEN FROM OUR POCKETS BY CRIMINALS. EVERY
00:01:36YEAR. FOR THAT REASON, PRESIDENT
00:01:39TRUMP, VICE PRESIDENT VANCE, AND
00:01:41ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL BLANCHE
00:01:44HAVE RIGHTLY ACTIVATED THE DOJ
00:01:46AND OUR FRAUD FIGHTING PARTNERS
00:01:49TO COMBAT THIS FRAUD EPIDEMIC
00:01:51HEAD ON, BECAUSE NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RIP OFF THE UNITED
00:01:54STATES OF AMERICA AND GET AWAY
00:01:57WITH IT. I AM HONORED TO BE
00:01:59JOINED TODAY BY SOME OF OUR BEST
00:02:01FRAUD FIGHTERS, CMS
00:02:04ADMINISTRATOR DR. MEHMET OZ,
00:02:07U.S. ATTORNEY DAVID METCALF, PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:02:10DAVID SUNDAY, HHS INSPECTOR
00:02:12GENERAL. MARCH BELL, EXECUTIVE
00:02:15DIRECTOR OF THE WHITE HOUSE TASK FORCE TO ELIMINATE FRAUD. SCOTT
00:02:18BRADY AND OUR LOCAL FBI.
00:02:22HHOIGDEA AND IRS CRIMINAL
00:02:25INVESTIGATION LEADERSHIP. THIS
00:02:27TEAM OF PUBLIC SERVANTS IS COMMITTED TO LOOKING FURTHER,
00:02:30DIGGING DEEPER, WORKING NIGHT
00:02:32AND DAY TO UNMASK THE
00:02:34FRAUDSTERS, STEALING THE WEALTH OF AMERICA AND BRING THEM TO
00:02:38JUSTICE. AND THIS COMMITMENT IS
00:02:40REAPING DIVIDENDS RIGHT HERE AND
00:02:43RIGHT NOW IN PENNSYLVANIA.
00:02:45TODAY, WE ARE ANNOUNCING
00:02:47CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST 19
00:02:51DEFENDANTS FOR FRAUDULENT HOME
00:02:52HEALTH CARE SCHEMES THAT TARGETED PENNSYLVANIA'S MEDICAID
00:02:56FRAUD PROGRAM AND RESULTED IN
00:02:58OVER $4 MILLION OF FRAUD. 18 OF
00:03:00THESE DEFENDANTS WERE CHARGED IN
00:03:02THE LAST 12 DAYS AS PART OF A
00:03:07STRATEGICALLY COORDINATED LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATION BETWEEN THE FRAUD DIVISION, THE U.S.
00:03:10ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THE PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
00:03:14OFFICE. THE CASES TODAY BUILD ON THE WORK THAT WE RECENTLY
00:03:18ANNOUNCED IN MINNESOTA, WHERE WE CHARGED 15 DEFENDANTS FOR
00:03:22SYSTEMATICALLY LOOTING, SEVEN STATE MANAGED MEDICAID PROGRAMS
00:03:25OUT OF MORE THAN $90 MILLION.
00:03:27TREATING THOSE PROGRAMS LIKE A PIGGY BANK UNTIL ONE OF THEM HAD
00:03:31TO BE SHUT DOWN ENTIRELY BECAUSE
00:03:33THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT. THE
00:03:35SHELVES WERE EMPTY. THE
00:03:37COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA IS
00:03:41ONE OF THE HIGHEST SPENDERS FOR HOME CARE SERVICES IN THE
00:03:44NATION, WITH SPENDING ON HOME
00:03:45CARE SERVICES EXCEEDING
00:03:498,000,000,000 IN 2020 ALONE.
00:03:51THESE HOME CARE PROGRAMS ARE
00:03:54DESIGNED TO ALLOW AMERICA'S MOST VULNERABLE TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY
00:03:58AT THEIR OWN HOME, INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR
00:04:01FAMILIES FOR A NURSING HOME. THE PROGRAM IS INNOVATIVE. IT ALLOWS
00:04:05FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO
00:04:06RECEIVE FUNDS FROM MEDICAID TO
00:04:12PROVIDE NECESSARY PHYSICAL CARE FOR A LOVED ONE, USED PROPERLY BY HONEST CITIZENS. THE PROGRAM
00:04:16ALLOWS THOSE WITH PHYSICAL AILMENTS TO BE CARED FOR BY
00:04:20THOSE THEY TRUST THE MOST, BUT
00:04:22INFILTRATED BY GREEDY AND
00:04:25DECEITFUL OPPORTUNISTS. THIS
00:04:28PROGRAM BECOMES A MONEY TREE, A
00:04:30GRAVY TRAIN FOR CRIMINAL FRAUDSTERS. THE CASES TODAY MAKE
00:04:34THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. THEY ARE
00:04:36NOT PAPERWORK, ERRORS OR GOOD
00:04:40FAITH ACCOUNTING ERRORS. THEY
00:04:42INVOLVED INVOLVE SUPPOSED HOME
00:04:44HEALTH AIDES WHO BUILD THE TAXPAYER FOR HOME CARE SERVICES,
00:04:47BUT NEVER ACTUALLY PROVIDED
00:04:49THOSE SERVICES. AND SUPPOSED MEDICAID PATIENTS WHO CONSPIRED
00:04:53WITH OTHER FRAUDSTERS TO BILL
00:04:56THE TAXPAYER FOR COMPLETELY
00:04:59UNNECESSARY HEALTH SERVICES. IN
00:05:01ONE CASE, WE CHARGED TWO HOME HEALTH AIDES AND TWO PURPORTED
00:05:05PATIENTS WITH CAUSING OVER
00:05:08400,000 IN FALSE CLAIMS TO
00:05:10MEDICAID FOR SERVICES. THE AIDES
00:05:12SUPPOSEDLY PERFORMED. WHEN GET
00:05:15THIS, THEY WERE ACTUALLY
00:05:17HOSPITALIZED, WORKING AT OTHER
00:05:19JOBS, AND EVEN IN JAIL. YES, THE
00:05:24ALLEGATIONS INCLUDE A SCHEME THAT BILLED TAXPAYERS FOR HOME
00:05:26CARE SERVICES PROVIDER, PROVIDED WHEN THE PERSON SUPPOSEDLY DOING
00:05:30THAT WORK WAS SITTING BEHIND
00:05:32BARS. THAT, OF COURSE, IS NOT
00:05:35HEALTH CARE. IT'S JUST PURE THEFT. ANOTHER INDICTMENT
00:05:39CHARGES A FATHER AND SON FOR ENGAGING IN A FRAUDULENT
00:05:43MEDICAID SCHEME. IN SHORT, ACCORDING TO THE ALLEGATIONS,
00:05:46THE FATHER DID NOT NEED THE CARE AND THE SON WASN'T GIVING IT.
00:05:50THE SON CLAIMED TO BE PROVIDING SERVICES TO HIS FATHER WHILE HE
00:05:54WAS ACTUALLY WORKING AS A DRIVER FOR A RIDESHARE AND FOOD
00:05:57DELIVERY SERVICE. AND IN FACT,
00:05:58ON ONE OCCASION, THE DEFENDANTS
00:06:03ALLEGEDLY BILLED MEDICAID FOR SERVICES THAT SUPPOSEDLY
00:06:06OCCURRED AT THE EXACT TIME THE SON WAS IN THE MIDST OF A
00:06:09TRAFFIC STOP IN WHICH HE WAS CITED FOR POSSESSION OF
00:06:13MARIJUANA. ON ANOTHER OCCASION, ON THE VERY DAY THAT THE SON
00:06:16BILLED MEDICAID FOR A FULL DAY
00:06:19OF IN-HOME CARE FOR HIS FATHER,
00:06:21THE FATHER WAS NOT HOME AT ALL.
00:06:24HE WAS IN A COURTROOM WATCHING A
00:06:26DIFFERENT RELATIVE GET SENTENCED
00:06:29FOR DEFRAUDING THIS SAME PROGRAM. THESE FRAUD SCHEMES NOT
00:06:32ONLY ROB AMERICANS OF THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY, THEY ALSO STEAL
00:06:36THE TRUST IN OUR COMMUNITIES, DESTROY THE PUBLIC'S CONFIDENCE
00:06:39IN OUR PUBLIC BENEFIT SYSTEMS. AND PERHAPS WORST OF ALL, SOW
00:06:44SEEDS OF DOUBT THAT HONESTY AND
00:06:46HARD WORK IS THE RIGHT PATH.
00:06:50AFTER ALL, THAT IS WHY JUSTICE
00:06:52MATTERS. TO PUNISH THE
00:06:56WRONGDOER, RESTORE HOPE TO VICTIMS, AND TO DETER OTHERS
00:06:59FROM CHOOSING THE WRONG PATH. AND JUSTICE IS ON THE MOVE.
00:07:03EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE ANNOUNCED A NEW WEST COAST HEALTH CARE
00:07:05STRIKE FORCE TO COMBAT FRAUD IN CALIFORNIA, NEVADA AND ARIZONA.
00:07:09WE HAVE ALSO ANNOUNCED A MEDICAID STRIKE FORCE APPROVED
00:07:12BY ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:07:15BLANCHE, TO MOBILIZE 15 ADDITIONAL FRAUD PROSECUTORS
00:07:18NATIONWIDE TO COMBAT MEDICAID FRAUD. JUST LAST WEEK, WE
00:07:22CONVENED A HISTORIC FEDERAL STATE PARTNERSHIP EVENT IN
00:07:25COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE LEADERS FROM ACROSS SEVEN STATES
00:07:29IN THE SOUTHEAST GATHERED TO STRENGTHEN COORDINATION AND
00:07:33EXPAND JOINT ANTI-FRAUD INITIATIVES. AND WE HAVE
00:07:36LAUNCHED A HISTORIC $300 MILLION
00:07:38GRANT PROGRAM TO ALLOW STATE AND LOCAL PROSECUTORS TO JOIN THE
00:07:42DOJ AND FIGHT FRAUD AND OTHER
00:07:44CRIME. I THANK ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:07:46SUNDAY FOR BEING ONE OF THE VERY
00:07:48FIRST OFFICES TO JOIN OUR GRANT
00:07:50PROGRAM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING MULTIPLE SPECIAL
00:07:54PROSECUTORS FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IN THE NEAR
00:07:56FUTURE. AS ANOTHER STEP IN OUR
00:07:58GROWTH PLAN, WE ARE ANNOUNCING
00:08:01TODAY THAT OUR NORTHEAST HEALTH CARE STRIKE FORCE TEAM IS
00:08:05EXPANDING HERE TO PHILADELPHIA.
00:08:08THIS WILL PLACE DEDICATED FRAUD PROSECUTORS RIGHT HERE TO
00:08:11FURTHER ROOT OUT THE FRAUD IN
00:08:15PENNSYLVANIA. THIS DISTRICT HAS
00:08:17A LONG STANDING TRADITION OF NOT ONLY PROSECUTING EGREGIOUS FRAUDS LIKE THE ONES CHARGED
00:08:21TODAY, BUT ALSO A HISTORY OF
00:08:23EXCELLENT CORPORATE ENFORCEMENT,
00:08:25BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINALLY. IN
00:08:28FACT, TODAY, THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ANNOUNCING
00:08:31CHARGES AGAINST NOT ONLY INDIVIDUALS, BUT A COMPANY, A
00:08:34HOME HEALTH AGENCY THAT
00:08:38PARTICIPATED IN THE FRAUD. WE
00:08:39ARE PROUD TO JOIN, IN
00:08:42PARTNERSHIP WITH U.S. ATTORNEY METCALF, TO RAMP UP OUR
00:08:45COLLECTIVE EFFORTS TO ROOT OUT
00:08:48FRAUD HERE IN PHILADELPHIA AND ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA. THIS
00:08:51REMAINS THE EARLY STAGES OF THE BUILD OUT OF OUR FRAUD FIGHTING
00:08:54TEAM. WITH THE SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, VICE PRESIDENT VANCE, AND THE WHITE HOUSE TASK
00:08:58FORCE TO ELIMINATE FRAUD. ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL BLANCHE AND THE
00:09:02ENTIRE FRAUD FIGHTING APPARATUS. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL
00:09:06CONTINUE EXPANDING OUR REACH
00:09:08ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PURSUE ALL FRAUD, NO MATTER HOW LARGE, NO
00:09:11MATTER HOW SMALL, NO MATTER HOW
00:09:16HARD. AND I WILL CONCLUDE WITH THIS TO THOSE TAKING ADVANTAGE
00:09:19OF HOME HEALTH FUNDS THAT ARE SO
00:09:21CRITICAL TO ALLOWING AGING AND
00:09:26ILL AMERICANS TO LIVE AND RECEIVE CARE AT HOME, YOUR TIME
00:09:29IS UP. WE WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE FRAUD AGAINST OUR MOST
00:09:33VULNERABLE CITIZENS AND OUR MOST
00:09:36IMPORTANT HEALTH PROGRAMS, AND
00:09:38TO ANYONE ENGAGED IN HEALTH CARE
00:09:40FRAUD OF ANY KIND OF ANY SIZE,
00:09:43WE SEE YOU, AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BRING YOU
00:09:46TO JUSTICE. THE ERA OF GETTING
00:09:48RICH OFF THE BACKS OF OUR
00:09:50PROGRAMS FOR OUR SICK, ELDERLY,
00:09:53AND DISABLED IS OVER. THANK YOU
00:09:56ALL FOR BEING HERE. I'LL NOW
00:09:57TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO DR. OZ.
00:10:02THANK YOU.
00:10:05>> THANK THE PRESIDENT. THE VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY KENNEDY,
00:10:08AND MANY OTHERS INVOLVED IN THE ANTI-FRAUD TASK FORCE AT THE
00:10:10WHITE HOUSE IS BEAUTIFULLY
00:10:12ORGANIZING FOR AN ALL OF
00:10:14GOVERNMENT APPROACH. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WITH USING ALL THE
00:10:18LEVER ARMS THAT THE FEDERAL
00:10:19GOVERNMENT HAS, ALLOWS US TO
00:10:23HELP AND PROTECT PEOPLE WHO ARE DEPENDENT ON MEDICARE AND
00:10:25MEDICAID, AS YOU WILL SEE DURING THESE PRESENTATIONS, CALLAN, THE
00:10:29ALL STAR TEAM YOU PUT TOGETHER, THERE'S MANY MEMBERS ON THE
00:10:32DAIS, BUT THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE NORTHEAST
00:10:35STRIKE FORCE, THE DEA,
00:10:39FBIHHSOIG. THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION UNITS, THE PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. ALL THESE GROUPS HAVE
00:10:43COME TOGETHER. WE NEED STATES
00:10:45INVOLVED. AND I'M SPEAKING TO THAT ISSUE AS THE PERSON WHO HAS
00:10:48TO LOOK AT ALL THE NUMBERS AS
00:10:51THE ADMINISTRATOR OF CMS. NOW, WE'RE FACING A PERSONAL CARE
00:10:55SERVICES CRISIS AROUND THE COUNTRY. THE SURGE IN ENROLLMENT
00:10:58OF INDIVIDUALS IN THESE PROGRAMS IS STUNNING. SO SHOCKING. WE
00:11:01HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK OUR NUMBERS. WE DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT'S HAPPENING,
00:11:04BUT IT IS IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW
00:11:06YORK, THE NUMBER ONE JOB IN THE
00:11:09ENTIRE STATE IS PERSONAL CARE SERVICES. GUESS WHAT? IT'S GOOD
00:11:12TO BE HOME, BECAUSE IT'S TRUE IN
00:11:13PENNSYLVANIA TO 50%,
00:11:16DRAMATICALLY MORE PEOPLE SERVING IN THE PERSONAL CARE SERVICES
00:11:20SPACE. THAT'S HOME CARE. THAN
00:11:22IT IS IN RETAIL. THAT'S WHERE
00:11:24PENNSYLVANIANS ARE GOING. IT'S BECOMING A JOBS PROGRAM.
00:11:27MEDICAID FRAUD IN THE STATE IS COSTING TAXPAYERS FOR CARE THAT
00:11:31WAS NEVER DELIVERED, OR, EVEN WORSE, HARMFUL. IT'S COSTING
00:11:35PATIENTS THEIR HEALTH, THEIR TRUST IN A SYSTEM, A SYSTEM THAT WAS BUILT ON A HIGH TRUST
00:11:39ENVIRONMENT, A PLACE WE ALL THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
00:11:41BE SAFE, BECAUSE WHO WOULD STEAL
00:11:44FROM THE POOR? AS COLIN OUTLINED, MANY PEOPLE, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE DOING JUST
00:11:47THAT, AND WE'RE COMING AFTER THEM. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING
00:11:51TODAY IS A DIABOLICAL BREACH OF TRUST, A VIOLATION OF THE SACRED
00:11:54BOND BETWEEN PATIENT AND CAREGIVER. IT IS A CATASTROPHE
00:11:58THAT CAN ONLY BE DEALT WITH IN A WAY THAT WILL BE OUTLINED FOR
00:12:01THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION. TODAY'S DEFENDANTS INCLUDED AN
00:12:04AIDE WHO BILLED MEDICAID FOR CARE FOR CARE CLAIM TO BE DELIVERED WHILE THEY WERE IN
00:12:08JAIL, OR WHILE THEY WERE BEING ARRESTED, OR WHILE THEY WEREN'T IN THE COUNTRY. THE LIST GOES ON
00:12:12AND ON. ONE MORE BELIEVABLE THAN THE NEXT. AND IT'S NOT JUST
00:12:16INDIVIDUALS. THERE'S A HOME CARE AGENCY, TWO OWNERS WHO ARE
00:12:18CHARGED WITH BILLING MEDICAID,
00:12:20HUNDREDS OF FABRICATED CLOCK
00:12:23INS. AGAIN, CARE THAT WAS NEVER DELIVERED AT ALL. AND WE HAVE
00:12:27EVIDENCE OF THAT CMS JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THIS MONEY REACHES THE
00:12:29PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT. THAT'S THE GRANDMOTHER WHO DESPERATELY NEEDS THIS MONEY TO
00:12:33STAY OUT OF A LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY. IT COULD BE A VET WHO
00:12:36RELIES ON THIS TO GET HELP, BECAUSE HE'S STUCK IN BED. ALL
00:12:39THESE INDIVIDUALS DESERVE OUR LOVE AND SUPPORT, NOT THE
00:12:42CRIMINALS WHO HAVE HURT THEM.
00:12:44WE'VE REVIEWED PENNSYLVANIA'S PERSONAL CARE BILLING TRENDS. I'M GOING TO GIVE THESE NUMBERS
00:12:48TO YOU SLOWLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT. THIS IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S DATA ON
00:12:52PENNSYLVANIA. PENNSYLVANIA RANKS FIFTH NATIONALLY IN AVERAGE
00:12:56MONTHLY PAYMENTS, BOTH PER BENEFICIARY AND PER PROVIDER.
00:12:59THAT IS WAY OUT. THERE. BE
00:13:02NUMBER FIVE IN BOTH THOSE CATEGORIES. MORE EXPENSIVE. THAT
00:13:04IS, IN 45 STATES, OVER 96% OF
00:13:08PERSONAL CARE CLAIMS. HERE ARE ILLNESS UNSPECIFIED. THAT'S HOW
00:13:12THEY'RE TITLED. SO WE CAN'T TRACK THEM. IT DOESN'T HELP IF
00:13:15THE U.S. ATTORNEY OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CAN'T POSSIBLY FIND THE FRAUD, BECAUSE PEOPLE
00:13:19AREN'T ACTUALLY TELLING US WHAT THEY'RE REALLY DOING. WE HAVE
00:13:22TO CHANGE THAT, THAT THAT HISTORY THAT'S EVOLVED HERE INTO THE NORM. AND FINALLY,
00:13:26AVERAGE PAYMENTS PER
00:13:29BENEFICIARY, MORE THAN $50,000.
00:13:30THINK ABOUT THAT 50, 000 PER
00:13:33PERSON GETTING HOME CARE IN THIS STATE, ON AVERAGE, FAR ABOVE
00:13:35WHAT YOU'D EVER EXPECT. ALL THIS POINTS TO FRAUD. THE CASES
00:13:39LIKE THESE ARE EXACTLY WHY A WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH IS
00:13:42SO CRITICAL, AND WHY WE HAVE TO DEVELOP BEST PRACTICES OF HOW TO
00:13:46EVOLVE THIS SYSTEM. YOU'RE TO BE HEARING FROM DAN BRILLMAN IN A
00:13:49SECOND. HE RUNS MEDICAID. HE'S GOING TO TOUCH ON ANOTHER PROBLEM. THAT'S A BIG ONE IN
00:13:52PENNSYLVANIA, WHICH IS AUTISM CARE SERVICES, AND WHY THEY'RE,
00:13:56AGAIN, NOT ONLY ARE THEY OFF THE CHART IN PENNSYLVANIA, BUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, BUT WE ARE
00:14:00ACTUALLY HERE TO HELP. WE'RE GIVING YOU A TOOLKIT THAT WILL
00:14:03ALLOW THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S NOT,
00:14:06WHAT'S FOUL, WHAT'S FAIR. SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THE BEST USE OF
00:14:09OUR FUNDS. YESTERDAY, I WAS IN MAINE. WE'RE INVESTIGATING HOME
00:14:12SUPPORT SERVICES, JUST LIKE YOU'RE SEEING HERE FOR ADULTS
00:14:14IN THAT CASE, WHO HAVE AUTISM, MEDICAID, SPENDING. OF THE TOP
00:14:18TEN PROVIDERS, THERE IS DRAMATICALLY INCREASED OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS. IN FACT, ACROSS
00:14:22THE BOARD, IF YOU LOOK AT FRAUD IN HEALTH CARE, ALL GONE UP IN
00:14:24THE LAST SIX YEARS, WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020? THAT HAS
00:14:28>> CATALYZE THIS. WHAT HAS ALLOWED THIS CORRUPTION TO BE
00:14:30WEAPONIZED? IT'S COVID. COVID
00:14:32APPEARS TO HAVE UNLEASHED
00:14:35MASSIVE FRAUD THROUGH GRIFTERS, BECAUSE CRIMINALS KNEW THE
00:14:37FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT FOLLOW UP ON THE MONEY THAT WAS
00:14:40PENDING OUT. WE. WE TOLD THE WORLD WE WERE OPEN FOR FRAUD,
00:14:44AND THEY COULD START HARPOONING US WITH THEIR SPEARS. NO MAS NO
00:14:47MORE. WE ARE NOW MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS FRAUD. THE
00:14:51MASSIVE INCREASES THAT HAVE GROWN, UM, TO THE KINDS OF
00:14:54NUMBERS YOU COULD NOT IMAGINE BEING ABLE TO SHOW ON A
00:14:57CLIPBOARD WITH 90% OF SERVICES
00:14:59BUILT AND PAID FOR IN MAINE IN PARTICULAR, WHERE THERE IS NO
00:15:03JUSTIFIABLE BACKUP FOR NINE OUT OF TEN SERVICES, YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY THEY SHOULD HAVE
00:15:06HAPPENED. IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU NORMALLY EXPECT. WE
00:15:09HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR ANYONE WHO INVENTS OURS, INVENTS A
00:15:12DISABILITY, INVENTS A WORKFORCE AT THE EXPENSE OF PEOPLE WHO
00:15:15DEPEND ON THESE PROGRAMS. AND IF YOU LOVE THESE VULNERABLE
00:15:19AMERICANS, YOU SHOULD CARE AS WELL. WITH THIS ALL OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH, NO SCHEME
00:15:22IS TOO SOPHISTICATED, NO FRAUDSTERS TOO ELUSIVE. THIS ALL
00:15:25OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH INCLUDES THE STATES, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE STATE REPRESENTATION HERE.
00:15:29AND THESE KITS, THEY WERE CRAFTED TO HELP THESE STATES.
00:15:32ALL OF THEM, COPE WITH THIS PROBLEM. WE HAVE AT CMS AN
00:15:36ADDITIONAL BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS. THAT
00:15:39KILLER KIM, AS SHE'S GOTTEN TO BE KNOWN, IS GOING TO DESCRIBE. AND THIS IS GOING TO, I THINK,
00:15:43HELP DICTATE HOW WE WILL INTERVENE IF THESE NUMBERS ARE
00:15:46NOT ADDRESSED. KIM. >> GREAT.
00:15:49>> THANK YOU, DR. OZ, WHAT YOU JUST HEARD ON THE PERSONAL CARE
00:15:52FRONT IS ONLY ONE PART OF THIS FIGHT. CMS IS GOING AFTER ALL OF
00:15:55IT. I WANT TO BUILD ON THAT WITH AN UPDATE ON ONE OF THE AREAS
00:15:59WHERE WE'VE MADE THE MOST PROGRESS. HOSPICE SINCE
00:16:02PRESIDENT TRUMP TOOK OFFICE,
00:16:041076 HOSPICES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE MEDICARE PROGRAM. IN
00:16:08CALIFORNIA ALONE. THIS
00:16:11REPRESENTS A 47% REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF CALIFORNIA HOSPICES COMPARED TO THE PEAK
00:16:14DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, LOS
00:16:19ANGELES COUNTY ALONE HAD MORE
00:16:21THAN 1850 HOSPICES. SO THESE ARE HOSPICES THAT ARE NO LONGER
00:16:25UNDER REVIEW. THEY'RE NOT ON A WATCH LIST. THEY ARE GONE, THROWN OUT OF THE PROGRAM
00:16:29ENTIRELY, UNABLE TO BUILD MEDICARE, UNABLE TO TOUCH
00:16:32ANOTHER TAXPAYER DOLLAR, UNABLE
00:16:34TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANOTHER VULNERABLE BENEFICIARY. AND
00:16:37WE'RE NOT STOPPING AT CALIFORNIA. IN MAY, CMS PUT IN
00:16:41PLACE A NATIONWIDE MORATORIUM ON NEW HOSPICE AND HOME HEALTH
00:16:45ENROLLMENTS. THE BROADEST ACTION CMS HAS EVER TAKEN IN THIS SPACE. IT'S IN EFFECT THROUGH
00:16:49MID-NOVEMBER, AND WE'RE USING THAT TIME TO INVESTIGATE ALL
00:16:52EXISTING FACILITIES, DIG INTO THE DATA, AND REMOVE BAD ACTORS,
00:16:56NOT JUST PROCESS THE NEXT CLAIM THAT MATTERS HERE IN
00:16:59PENNSYLVANIA. TO, IN ITS
00:17:01RESPONSE TO DR. OZ'S REVALIDATION REQUEST LETTER IN LATE APRIL, PENNSYLVANIA STATED
00:17:05THAT IT IS USING THE FEDERAL
00:17:07MORATORIUM AS A REASON TO RENEW ITS PROGRAM INTEGRITY EFFORTS.
00:17:10THE STATE ALSO INDICATED THAT IT WOULD IMPLEMENT A MORATORIUM ON
00:17:13NEWLY ENROLLING HOSPICE
00:17:15PROVIDERS AND EVALUATE WHETHER A
00:17:17STATEWIDE OR GEOGRAPHICALLY TARGETED MORATORIUM IS NECESSARY FOR HOME HEALTH PROVIDERS. BUT
00:17:21CMS HAS NOT YET RECEIVED A MORATORIUM REQUEST FROM
00:17:24PENNSYLVANIA. SO WE ARE CHALLENGING THE STATE TODAY TO
00:17:26FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT COMMITMENT AND TAKE THE ACTION NEEDED TO PROTECT BENEFICIARIES
00:17:30AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WHETHER IT'S HOSPICE IN CALIFORNIA OR
00:17:34HOME HEALTH HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA, THE MODEL IS THE
00:17:37SAME STOP THE BAD ACTOR BEFORE THE MONEY GOES OUT, NOT CHASE
00:17:40AFTER IT. YEARS AFTER. IN THAT
00:17:42SAME MODEL, IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE RELEASING SOMETHING NEW TODAY.
00:17:46CMS IS PUBLISHING OUR MEDICAID SERVICE AREA HEAT MAP FOR
00:17:50APPLIED BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS. ABA, A FIRST OF ITS KIND
00:17:53NATIONAL LOOK AT WHERE ABA SPENDING IS CONCENTRATED AND
00:17:56WHERE IT'S RAISING RED FLAGS. PENNSYLVANIA IS ONE OF THE
00:17:58STATES WHERE THAT DATA IS MOST CONCERNING. I'M NOW GOING TO
00:18:01TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR FOR MEDICAID AND CHIP SERVICES, DAN BRILLMAN, TO WALK YOU THROUGH
00:18:05WHAT THE HEAT MAP MEANS AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES
00:18:07HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. OVER TO
00:18:09YOU, DAN.
00:18:14>> GOOD MORNING. AS A LEADER FOR. >> MEDICAID AND CHILDREN'S HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM, WHEN
00:18:17WE SEE PROBLEMS, WE COME WITH SOLUTIONS. YOU KNOW, MEDICAID IS
00:18:21A SAFETY NET PROGRAM, AND WE WANT IT TO BE THERE TO CATCH YOU
00:18:24NOW AND FOR YEARS TO COME,
00:18:27STOMPING OUT FRAUD AND CORPORATE CORRUPTION IS HOW WE ENSURE IT
00:18:30IS THERE FOR YOU. AND FRAUD IN APPLIED BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS, OR
00:18:34ABA, IS NO EXCEPTION, WHICH IS WHY TODAY WE'RE ANNOUNCING AN ABA TOOLKIT TO HELP STATES DRIVE
00:18:38BEST PRACTICES AND POLICIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. NOW, ABA
00:18:41THERAPY IS MEANT TO GIVE KIDS WITH AUTISM ONE ON ONE SUPPORT.
00:18:44THEY NEED TO BUILD USEFUL SKILLS, COMMUNICATION, SOCIAL
00:18:46INTERACTION, INDEPENDENCE DELIVERED THROUGH DIRECT, HANDS
00:18:49ON SUPPORT INTENDED TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND AUTONOMY.
00:18:52BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM BETWEEN
00:18:5521 AND 2025, MEDICAID SPENDING ON ABA GREW SIX TIMES FASTER
00:18:59THAN THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN
00:19:01ACTUALLY RECEIVING THE SERVICE NATIONALLY, WENT FROM 2 BILLION
00:19:04TO 10 BILLION A YEAR, A 420%
00:19:06INCREASE. SOME STATES SAW 200%
00:19:09INCREASES. ONE STATE HAS OVER NOW, 45,000 ABA PROVIDERS ALONE,
00:19:13ABOUT NINE TIMES THE NUMBER OF PEDIATRICIANS IN THE STATE. THIS
00:19:16SHOULD RAISE SERIOUS CONCERNS FOR EVERYONE WE KNOW ISSUES THAT
00:19:19WE'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS, LIKE MINNESOTA, WHERE THEIR BILLING
00:19:22FOR SERVICES EXPLODED FOR
00:19:233,000,000 IN 2018 TO 400,000,000
00:19:26IN 2023, A SURGE DRIVEN BY
00:19:28ORGANIZED FRAUD RINGS PROVIDING KICKBACKS FOR PARENTS TO SIGN
00:19:31THEIR CHILDREN UP. BUT HERE IN
00:19:35PENNSYLVANIA, THE DATA TELLS A SIMILAR STORY. ABA SERVICES NOW, AS KIM JUST TALKED ABOUT,
00:19:39CARRIES A HIGH RISK SCORE,
00:19:41GROWING FROM 144 MILLION TO 587
00:19:44MILLION BETWEEN 2021 AND LAST YEAR, AND THE SECOND HIGHEST IN
00:19:48THE NATION FOR AVERAGE MONTHLY PAYMENTS PER PROVIDER. HERE, WE
00:19:52HAVE HAD ONE PROVIDER WHO CLAIMED TO HAVE DELIVERED 500
00:19:55HOURS OF ONE ON ONE ABA THERAPY
00:19:57TO TWO CHILDREN, TWO DIFFERENT
00:20:00LOCATIONS, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
00:20:03BEHIND EVERY ONE OF THESE
00:20:05FAMILIES IS AN ISSUE, AND MAYBE
00:20:08FAMILIES EVEN LIKE YOURS. THERE'S A HUMAN COST TO FRAUD
00:20:11AND INCENTIVES THAT REWARD VOLUME INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUALIZED CARE, RESULTS IN CHILDREN WHO DON'T GET THE CARE THAT THEY
00:20:15NEED, AND FAMILIES WHO PAY THE PRICE. SO TODAY, THIS IS THE
00:20:19ACTION EVERY STATE HAS BEEN ASKING US FOR HELP AT CMS. SO
00:20:22WE'RE PROVIDING IT. SO WE'RE LAUNCHING THIS ABA TOOLKIT, A
00:20:25SET OF PROACTIVE PRACTICES FOR
00:20:27MEDICAID AND CHIP PROGRAMS TO DRIVE ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE
00:20:30PROGRAM, TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO SERVE OUR CHILDREN, AND ALSO TO PROTECT GOOD PROVIDERS,
00:20:34PROVIDING GOOD CARE. THIS TOOLKIT IS GOING TO DO THREE
00:20:37THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH
00:20:40THE STATES TO ADDRESS THEM. ONE, INDIVIDUALIZED TREATMENT PLANS
00:20:42THAT REFLECT CHILDREN'S SEVERITY
00:20:44AND CLINICAL JUSTIFICATION, NOT
00:20:47MAXIMIZING HOURS, REGARDLESS OF THE CHILD'S NEED. NOW, TWO
00:20:51INTEGRATED THERAPY. WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE WHOLE CHILD FOCUSED
00:20:54ON INTEGRATED SPEECH. OCCUPATIONAL OUTCOME FOCUSED
00:20:58THERAPY, NOT SIMPLY MAXIMIZING
00:20:59ABA THERAPY IN ISOLATION. THIRD,
00:21:03GUARDRAILS, THINGS THAT WILL STOP CROWDING OUT THOSE WHO NEED
00:21:06IT THE MOST. TODAY, 75% OF
00:21:09PARENTS ARE REPORTING DELAYS AND WAITLISTS. A GOOD REASON FOR
00:21:12THAT 1.5 BILLION WAS SPENT LAST
00:21:16YEAR ON ABA FOR CHILDREN WHO DID
00:21:17NOT HAVE AN AUTISM DIAGNOSIS.
00:21:20FOR THAT CARE, WE OWE IT TO THE FAMILIES WHO DEPEND ON THESE
00:21:24SERVICES, THE TAXPAYERS WHO FUND THEM. AND THIS TOOLKIT IS GOING
00:21:26TO BE USED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
00:21:28STATES ACROSS THE NATION TO CLOSE THESE LOOPHOLES WITHOUT
00:21:32DELAY. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO RELEASING THIS TOOLKIT TODAY TO THE PUBLIC AND HOPE EVERYONE
00:21:36ENSURES RESOURCES REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST. I'M GOING TO TURN IT
00:21:39OVER TO U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF
00:21:42PENNSYLVANIA, DAVID METCALFE.
00:21:44NOW, THANK YOU. THANK YOU
00:21:48>> WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR FEDERAL AND STATE
00:21:52PARTNERS FOR SHINING THE LIGHT ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND THAT IMPORTANT ISSUE IS THE
00:21:56WORST THEFT OF MONEY THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY HAS
00:21:59BEEN THE GREAT FRAUD AGAINST THE
00:22:02AMERICAN TAXPAYER, FRAUD AGAINST GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE TO THE SICK, FOOD TO
00:22:05THE POOR, BENEFITS TO THOSE WHO NEED THEM. WHICH IS WHY WE ARE
00:22:08SO EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL
00:22:12FRAUD ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND COLIN MCDONALD, AND ALSO BUILD
00:22:14ON OUR ALLIANCE WITH PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL DAVE SUNDAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING
00:22:18HERE, AS WELL AS PARTNERING WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
00:22:22FBI, HHS, IG, AND OTHERS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT IN THIS SPACE.
00:22:26WE WANT TO ATTACK FRAUD IN ALL OF ITS FORMS. AS DR. OZ, KIM AND
00:22:29DAN JUST TOLD YOU, MEDICAID
00:22:32FRAUD IN PARTICULAR HAS MANY DIFFERENT FORMS OF FRAUD. BUT WE
00:22:35WANT TO TACKLE FRAUD FROM
00:22:37BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATE MALFEASANCE FROM A FORTUNE 500
00:22:40COMPANY TO A SMALLER DOLLAR FRAUD. OF THE CASES THAT YOU'RE
00:22:43GOING TO HEAR ABOUT TODAY, AND THE CASES THAT WE WANT TO
00:22:46HIGHLIGHT TODAY EXEMPLIFY A MUCH GREATER PROBLEM. AND IT'S A
00:22:49PROBLEM THAT HAS PLAGUED OUR REGION AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR
00:22:52MANY YEARS. AND THAT IS THE EPIDEMIC OF HOME CARE FRAUD IN
00:22:56THIS COMMUNITY. AND FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T AWARE OF HOW THESE SCHEMES WORK, I'LL GIVE YOU A
00:23:00BRIEF OVERVIEW. MEDICAID, ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE, THE
00:23:03DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES FOR PENNSYLVANIA, ALLOWS A SPECIFIC
00:23:07PROGRAM WHEREBY PATIENTS CAN HAVE PERSONAL CARE SERVICES IN
00:23:10THE COMFORT OF THEIR HOME AND GET MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENTS. BUT
00:23:14IN PRACTICE, IT HAS PROVEN
00:23:16DIFFICULT TO VERIFY THAT THOSE
00:23:18SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY BEING
00:23:21PROVIDED, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, ANYONE CAN BE A CAREGIVER. YOU
00:23:25CAN BE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND, NO MEDICAL
00:23:28TRAINING OR BACKGROUND AT ALL. AND YOU CAN BE A CAREGIVER AND
00:23:31THE BENEFICIARY OR THE CLIENT CAN SELECT WHOEVER THEY WISH TO
00:23:34BE THEIR AID. AND SO THEREFORE, TWO PEOPLE CAN EASILY COLLUDE TO
00:23:38SCHEME THIS SYSTEM. AND ONCE IN THE SYSTEM. AND THIS IS THE
00:23:42IMPORTANT PART, IT'S TOUGH TO VERIFY THAT THE SERVICES ARE
00:23:44ACTUALLY BEING RENDERED BECAUSE
00:23:46THE CAREGIVER OR THE CLIENT
00:23:49BEHIND CLOSED DOORS SIMPLY CAN
00:23:51TAP A BUTTON ON THEIR SMARTPHONE APP OR CALL IN. AND THAT RECORD
00:23:54DOESN'T ACTUALLY ESTABLISH THAT
00:23:56THE PERSON WAS ACTUALLY THERE, OR PROVIDING HEALTH CARE
00:24:00SERVICES. AND THE RESULT IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THAT CHART OVER THERE, WHICH IS SINCE THE
00:24:03PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES ESTABLISHED THIS
00:24:06PROGRAM IN 2018, $120 MILLION
00:24:09BILLED IN PENNSYLVANIA HOME CARE
00:24:12SERVICES IN 2019, 2020. 2
00:24:15BILLION 2025 8 BILLION. THIS IS NOT THE REFLECTION OF SUPPLY AND
00:24:19DEMAND. IT IS A REFLECTION OF
00:24:21THE SYSTEMATIC EXPLOITATION OF A VULNERABLE PROGRAM BY FRAUDSTERS
00:24:25AND, AS WE ALLEGE, SOMETIMES DRUG DEALERS. I WANT TO TELL YOU
00:24:28ABOUT THESE CASES WITH TWO QUALIFICATIONS. FIRST, ALL THE
00:24:32CREDIT GOES TO THE PROSECUTORS AND AGENTS. IT WAS THEIR HARD
00:24:35WORK, THEIR BRAINS, THEIR SWEAT TO BUILD THESE CASES. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND NUMBER
00:24:39TWO, AS SHOCKING AS THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE AT THIS STAGE,
00:24:41THEY ARE INDEED ONLY
00:24:44ALLEGATIONS. EVERY DEFENDANT IS PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN
00:24:47GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW. BUT
00:24:49THEY ARE SHOCKING ALLEGATIONS ACROSS THESE CASES. WE HAVE HOME
00:24:53CARE SERVICES BILLED THAT WERE NOT RENDERED BY AIDES THAT WERE
00:24:57DEAD, THAT WERE IN PRISON, THAT WERE SELLING DRUGS. AIDES WHO
00:25:01BILLED OVER 24 HOURS A DAY,
00:25:05REPEATEDLY FOR A YEAR, AIDES WHO BILLED HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD IN SAUDI ARABIA, AIDES WHO WERE
00:25:08BILLING WHILE JETSETTING ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN AND EUROPE. AND I
00:25:12WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO CASES. OUR
00:25:14OFFICE CHARGED TODAY. FIRST, TWO
00:25:16DEFENDANTS, SEAN MURRAY AND
00:25:18CHARLES BOWIE. IN RELATED CASES, SEAN MURRAY HAS ALREADY BEEN
00:25:22SEPARATELY INDICTED BY OUR OFFICE AS A FEDERAL NARCOTICS
00:25:25TRAFFICKER. HE IS IN THE PRISON BEHIND ME RIGHT NOW AS A FEDERAL DRUG TRAFFICKER. AND WE ALLEGE
00:25:29THAT IN ADDITION TO SELLING
00:25:31COCAINE, HE WAS RIPPING OFF
00:25:34MEDICAID BY FRAUDULENT HOME CARE SERVICES THAT WERE NOT ACTUALLY
00:25:38RENDERED. INSTEAD, HE WAS AT THE
00:25:39GYM, HE WAS AT THE MASSAGE
00:25:42PARLOR. HE WAS ON A CRUISE. AND AT WORST, HE WAS PACKAGING
00:25:46NARCOTICS TO RUN HIS DRUG
00:25:48TRAFFICKING OPERATION IN A JAIL CALL THAT WAS RECORDED IN AUGUST
00:25:522024. SEAN MURRAY BOASTED ABOUT
00:25:54HOW EASY OF A RACKET IT WAS. HE
00:25:57SAID, THIS HOME HEALTH CARE IS
00:25:59THE BEST KEPT SECRET. THIS SCHEME ALSO ILLUSTRATES,
00:26:02UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TOO OFTEN THE CLIENTS AND THE
00:26:06BENEFICIARIES ARE IN ON THIS SCHEME. IN THIS CASE, WE ALLEGE
00:26:09THAT MURRAY PAID KICKBACK TO HIS CLIENTS TO GO ALONG WITH THE
00:26:13SCHEME. WE ALLEGE $400,000 IN
00:26:15TOTAL BILLINGS. THE LAST CASE I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT INVOLVES
00:26:19A COMPANY CALLED BENEVOLENT BENEVOLENT HOME HEALTH AND ITS
00:26:22TWO FOUNDERS, KHALILAH WILLIAMS
00:26:24AND SELIMA DAVIS, BOTH FROM PHILADELPHIA. AND WE ALLEGE THAT
00:26:28THIS CASE ACTUALLY ORIGINATED FROM A DEA INVESTIGATION IN THE
00:26:32DRUG TRAFFICKING ACTIVITIES OF
00:26:34MISS WILLIAMS'S HUSBAND. WHEN DEA AGENTS RAIDED HIS HOUSE
00:26:38WHILE HE WAS BEING ARRESTED, HE
00:26:40SAID, HOLD ON, I NEED TO CLOCK
00:26:44OUT OF MY SHIFT. AND WHEN THE AGENTS ASKED WHAT HE MEANT BY
00:26:46THAT, HE SAID, EVERYBODY IS DOING THIS. IF THAT'S A PROBLEM,
00:26:50YOU'D HAVE TO ARREST THE WHOLE
00:26:52CITY. THAT IS SHOCKING, AND IT ILLUSTRATES THE EXTENT OF THE
00:26:55PROBLEM THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. EVERYBODY IS DOING THIS.
00:26:59IT GETS WORSE. AFTER. WILL, MISS WILLIAMS HUSBAND WAS SENT TO
00:27:03PRISON. THE BILLING FOR HIS HOME
00:27:07CARE SERVICES CONTINUED. WHILE THIS MAN WAS IN THE PRISON
00:27:10BEHIND ME. THE COMPANY, MISS
00:27:14WILLIAMS, BUILT HIM FOR HOME CARE SERVICES FOR HOME CARE
00:27:17SERVICES, A FEDERALLY CHARGED NARCOTICS TRAFFICKER LITERALLY SITTING BEHIND BARS IN THE
00:27:21FEDERAL DETENTION CENTER, WAS
00:27:22STILL BEING BILLED FOR HOME CARE
00:27:25SERVICES. THIS WAS AFTER, MIND YOU, THAT MISS WILLIAMS AND MISS
00:27:28DAVIS WERE BILLING SERVICES
00:27:33WHILE HE WAS ACTUALLY CONDUCTING HIS NARCOTICS TRAFFICKING
00:27:35OPERATION, PACKAGING, SELLING,
00:27:38DISTRIBUTING DRUGS, AND IT GETS
00:27:41WORSE, MISS WILLIAMS AND MISS
00:27:43DAVIS ALSO BILLED FOR AN AIDE THAT WAS DEAD 600 CLOCK INS IN A
00:27:47YEAR, TO THE TUNE OF A TOTAL OF
00:27:51$225,000 IN MEDICAID BILLINGS. IN SHORT, WE ARE BEING RIPPED
00:27:54OFF THESE CASES, AND THESE DEFENDANTS MAKE A MOCKERY OF
00:27:57YOUR TAX DOLLARS. BUT IT ENDS
00:27:59TODAY. IF EVERYBODY IS DOING IT. IT TAKES EVERYONE TO STOP IT.
00:28:03WHICH IS WHY I'M SO PLEASED TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE TODAY FROM
00:28:06OUR FEDERAL AND STATE PARTNERS, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE
00:28:09THE TOTAL FORCE OF THE UNITED
00:28:10STATES GOVERNMENT AND OUR STATE PARTNERS TO COMBAT THIS PROBLEM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SO.
00:28:14THANK YOU.
00:28:22>> GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU, ATTORNEY METCALF. IT'S BEEN AN
00:28:26ABSOLUTE PLEASURE GETTING TO KNOW YOU, AND AN HONOR TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND YOUR
00:28:30OFFICE. WE'VE SEEN GREAT
00:28:32PROGRESS HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA IN
00:28:35BUILDING MEDICAID RELATED CRIMINAL CASES AND RESULTING
00:28:39PROSECUTIONS OF THOSE WHO HAVE DEFRAUDED AND STEAL FROM THE SYSTEM, AND THOSE WHO NEGLECT
00:28:42AND ABUSE PATIENTS THAT ARE
00:28:44DEPENDENT ON THAT CARE. AND
00:28:47BEFORE I GO INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT SOME OF THESE CASES, I
00:28:50WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF TWO
00:28:51THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THESE CASES
00:28:55AREN'T JUST FINANCIAL CRIMES. THESE ARE CASES THAT DIRECTLY
00:29:00IMPACT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE NEGLECT
00:29:04CASES WHERE CARE SHOULD BE GIVEN AND PEOPLE ARE BEING PAID TO
00:29:07PROVIDE CARE. AND THEN THE CARE IS NOT GIVEN. AND WE ACTUALLY
00:29:10HAVE HAD CASES NOT TO IN THE NOT
00:29:13TOO DISTANT PAST, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF NOT
00:29:16RECEIVING THOSE MEDICATIONS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU
00:29:19KNOW, OFTENTIMES AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND AS LEADERS, WE GET
00:29:23TO STAND HERE AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU. BUT I
00:29:26WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
00:29:29IDENTIFY AND THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE HARD
00:29:33WORKING AGENTS AND ALL THE HARD
00:29:35WORKING PROSECUTORS THAT WORK RELENTLESSLY ON THESE
00:29:39UNBELIEVABLY CHALLENGING, CHALLENGING, AND COMPLEX CASES. AND SO FOR ALL OF THEM, THEY
00:29:42CAN'T STAND UP HERE TODAY. I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE APPRECIATED AND THEY ARE
00:29:46RESPECTED. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. SO LAST
00:29:49YEAR, PENNSYLVANIA LED THE NATION IN MEDICAID FRAUD
00:29:53CONVICTIONS. AND THE YEAR PRIOR TO THAT, WE LED THE NATION IN
00:29:57THE NUMBER OF DEFENDANTS CHARGED
00:29:59WITH MEDICAID FRAUD. A LOT OF THAT WORK HAPPENS RIGHT HERE IN
00:30:02PHILADELPHIA. THE COMMONWEALTH'S LARGEST
00:30:05METROPOLITAN AREA. BUT NO GREAT
00:30:09PROGRESS EVER HAPPENS IN A SILO. THE PENNSYLVANIA MEDICAID FRAUD
00:30:12CONTROL UNIT, HOUSED IN MY
00:30:13OFFICE, RECEIVES 75% OF ITS
00:30:17FUNDING FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN
00:30:21SERVICES. ABOUT 13.5 MILLION FOR
00:30:23THIS CURRENT FEDERAL FISCAL
00:30:25YEAR. AND FOR THAT, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY BEYOND GRATEFUL,
00:30:29BECAUSE IF IT WAS NOT FOR THAT
00:30:31ASSISTANCE, THE MEDICAID FRAUD CONTROL SECTION HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA WOULD NOT BE DOING
00:30:35THE AMAZING THINGS THAT IT IS
00:30:37DOING. AND AGAIN, WE ARE BEYOND GRATEFUL FOR THAT SUPPORT. THESE
00:30:41CASES INVOLVE METICULOUS
00:30:45INVESTIGATION, REQUIRING A LOT OF RESOURCES, PERSONNEL, AND A
00:30:48TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK HOURS AND COLLABORATION WITH OUR
00:30:52FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL
00:30:54PARTNERS. LITERALLY NONE OF THIS
00:30:56COULD GET DONE WITHOUT TEAMWORK, WITHOUT WORKING TOGETHER AND
00:31:00COLLABORATING. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE
00:31:03TODAY. THE ARRAY OF CONDUCT AND
00:31:06BAD ACTORS IS WIDE RANGING. SOME
00:31:08OF THIS CONDUCT INVOLVES VERY SOPHISTICATED SCHEMES AND
00:31:12PLANNING, AND THERE ARE OTHER
00:31:15CASES WHERE WE HAVE THE SAME CLEAR PATTERNS OF THEFT AND
00:31:18FRAUD. BUT THOSE SCHEMES ARE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR AS EXPERTLY
00:31:22DISGUISED. ALL THE CASES INVOLVE
00:31:24INTENSIVE INVESTIGATIONS AND INVESTIGATIVE WORK TO BUILD
00:31:28CRIMINAL CASES STRONG ENOUGH TO REACH CONVICTIONS. IT IS, I WANT
00:31:30TO SAY THAT AGAIN, TO REACH
00:31:32CONVICTIONS, BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL THAT WE REACH
00:31:36CONVICTIONS IN THESE CASES,
00:31:38BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE IS
00:31:41THROUGH CONVICTING THEM OF THESE, OF THESE CHARGES THAT
00:31:45HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST THEM,
00:31:48SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY WILL
00:31:51MAKE FAR LESS MONEY GOING INTO
00:31:52THIS THAN THEY THINK, AND THAT THEY WILL DEFINITELY BE
00:31:56CONVICTED AND GO TO JAIL. SO THERE IS A GREAT COMMITMENT AND PASSION REQUIRED FROM THE FROM
00:31:59THE AGENTS, THE ATTORNEYS, AND THE SUPPORT STAFF WORKING ON THESE CASES. LAST YEAR IN
00:32:03PENNSYLVANIA, WE HAD CONVICTIONS
00:32:07AGAINST 115 DEFENDANTS. THOSE
00:32:09CONVICTIONS INVOLVE THE RECOVERY
00:32:14OF ABOUT $41 MILLION THAT WAS STOLEN FROM THE STATE MEDICAID
00:32:17PROGRAM. THAT IS $41 MILLION
00:32:20THAT SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE.
00:32:23UNDERSERVED INDIVIDUALS AND
00:32:25FAMILIES THAT RELY ON THAT HELP. LAST YEAR, IT JUST IT JUST SO
00:32:29HAPPENS THAT WE FILED CHARGES
00:32:32AGAINST 115 DEFENDANTS. THE PARTNERS BEFORE ME HAVE ARTICULATED THIS VERY, VERY
00:32:35WELL. BUT LET ME REINFORCE THE
00:32:37MESSAGE. MEDICAID FRAUD IS
00:32:39DEEPLY IMPACTFUL. CONDUCT. THIS
00:32:42IS NOT ABOUT SOMEONE MERELY
00:32:44WORKING THE SYSTEM. EVERY DOLLAR
00:32:46STOLEN FROM THESE PROGRAMS CAUSES DIRECT HARM TO SOMEONE
00:32:50WHO NEEDS CARE AND CANNOT AFFORD
00:32:52IT. AND WE HAVE SEEN MANY
00:32:54DOLLARS STOLEN THROUGH THIS PIPELINE AGAIN IN THE
00:32:58PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. WE DON'T LOOK AT THESE
00:33:01CASES AS JUST BEING FINANCIAL
00:33:04CRIMES. WE VIEW THESE CASES AND
00:33:06INVESTIGATIONS AS A PUBLIC
00:33:08SAFETY ISSUE, AND THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU HAVE
00:33:12MILLIONS OF DOLLARS STOLEN FROM
00:33:14THE PIPELINE, THE IMPACT IS
00:33:17MASSIVE. TAKE THE ASHLEY GRIFFIN CASE AS A PRIME EXAMPLE. OUR
00:33:21OFFICE JUST CHARGED ASHLEY GRIFFIN, A PERSONAL CARE
00:33:24ATTENDANT, FOR 13 DIFFERENT
00:33:26AGENCIES IN PHILADELPHIA, AND THE COLLAR COUNTIES. I HAVE TO
00:33:30TELL YOU, ASHLEY IS QUITE THE
00:33:33MAGICIAN. OUR INVESTIGATION DISCOVERED AN ALLEGED THREE AND
00:33:37A HALF YEAR SCOPE OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT IN THOSE THREE AND A
00:33:40HALF YEARS. LET ME TELL YOU, ASHLEY GRIFFIN HAD SOME
00:33:43EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE DAYS.
00:33:46ACCORDING TO HER REIMBURSEMENT SUBMISSIONS, ASHLEY WORKED MORE
00:33:50THAN 24 HOURS IN A SINGLE DAY,
00:33:55MORE THAN A THOUSAND TIMES. I SAY THAT AGAIN. SHE WORKED MORE
00:33:58THAN 24 HOURS IN A SINGLE DAY,
00:34:00MORE THAN A THOUSAND TIMES, AND
00:34:02FOR ONE DAY, SHE SUBMITTED 126
00:34:06HOURS OF WORK, IN ALL. WE
00:34:09COUNTED, COMPILED, AND COMPARED, AND FOUND THAT ASHLEY SUBMITTED
00:34:12MORE THAN 64,000 HOURS OF WORK
00:34:17FOR SERVICES THAT SHE ABSOLUTELY
00:34:18COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY DONE.
00:34:21THOSE FRAUDULENT ENTRIES LED TO
00:34:22MEDICAID PAYMENTS OF MORE THAN
00:34:26$1.2 MILLION. WE ALLEGE THAT
00:34:28SHERRILL JOHNSON ENGAGED IN A SIMILARLY BLATANT DEFRAUDING OF
00:34:32THE SYSTEM. SHE SUBMITTED MORE
00:34:36THAN 24 SINGLE DAY HOURS OF REIMBURSEMENTS ON NEARLY 400
00:34:40SEPARATE DAYS. AGAIN, THESE
00:34:42MIGHT BE HALF COMICAL IF THEY WEREN'T UNBELIEVABLY SERIOUS
00:34:46CRIMINAL ACTS, CAUSING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HARM. I
00:34:50EMPHASIZE, AS ALWAYS, THAT THESE
00:34:51ARE ALLEGED ACTS, AND THE CHARGE
00:34:54DEFENDANTS WILL HAVE THEIR DAY
00:34:56IN COURT. PAMELA GREER OVER A SIX MONTH PERIOD, SHE ALLEGEDLY
00:35:00SUBMITTED MORE THAN 1300 WORK
00:35:02HOURS REGARDING HOME CARE FOR A
00:35:05RECIPIENT THAT WE DETERMINED WAS
00:35:08INCARCERATED ON DRUG CHARGES AT
00:35:10THE TIME. SO THIS INDIVIDUAL
00:35:13THAT SHE SAID SHE WAS DOING CARE FOR WAS INCARCERATED IN PRISON
00:35:16ON DRUG CHARGES DURING THE
00:35:18ENTIRETY OF THAT SITUATION. AND
00:35:21THEN THERE WAS THE COMFORT ZONE,
00:35:23HOME HEALTH CARE CASE. WE'RE IN
00:35:26THE FINAL STAGES OF PROSECUTING NEARLY TWO DOZEN DEFENDANTS FROM
00:35:30THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY BASED
00:35:32CASE, FROM THE OWNER OF COMFORT
00:35:34ZONE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE CHAIN.
00:35:37MORE THAN $1.76 MILLION IN
00:35:41MEDICAID FRAUD WAS UNCOVERED. LEON MONTGOMERY, THE OWNER'S
00:35:44SON, RECENTLY PLEADED GUILTY. WE
00:35:49LOOKED AT $270,000 IN MEDICAID
00:35:52SUBMISSIONS FROM MONTGOMERY, AND
00:35:54WE DETERMINED THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY IN SAUDI ARABIA WHEN
00:35:58MUCH OF THAT WORK ALLEGEDLY TOOK
00:36:01PLACE. AGAIN, THESE CASES ARE
00:36:03NOT EASY TO ASSEMBLE, CHARGE,
00:36:07AND PROSECUTE. THEY TAKE TIME AND COMMITMENT. WE IN
00:36:11PENNSYLVANIA HAVE THAT COMMITMENT. WE HAVE THE TEAM WHO
00:36:13WANTS TO DO THE WORK, AND WE ARE
00:36:16BLESSED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WHICH IS THE
00:36:20FUEL THAT KEEPS THIS MACHINE
00:36:23RUNNING TO MY FEDERAL PARTNERS. I SAY, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL
00:36:27JUST GETTING STARTED, AND I
00:36:29WOULD LASTLY, LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE AGAIN, THAT MAY BE
00:36:33WATCHING THIS, THAT THIS IS MORE THAN A FINANCIAL CRIME. THIS IS
00:36:36A VERY DANGEROUS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
00:36:40SHOULD BE RECEIVING HELP ARE NOT RECEIVING IT BECAUSE OF THIS.
00:36:43THANK YOU. MR..
00:36:52>> THANK YOU, ATTORNEY GENERAL,
00:36:55FOR THOSE THOUGHTFUL WORDS. UH, I WANT TO DO TWO THINGS. I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE WHERE
00:36:59THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE
00:37:01FITS INTO THIS. A VERY IMPORTANT TEAM EFFORT, AND THEN STEP BACK
00:37:05A LITTLE BIT. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT
00:37:08OF VERY GRANULAR, UH, HIGHLY ACCURATE DETAILS ABOUT HOW THIS
00:37:12WORK IS DONE. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
00:37:14SECRETARY KENNEDY AND DR. OZ FOR
00:37:16A COUPLE OF SENTENCES. THESE ARE
00:37:20TWO GENTLEMEN WHO HAVE DECIDED
00:37:21TO SPEND THEIR LIVES IMPROVING
00:37:24AMERICAN HEALTH CARE. UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT.
00:37:28THAT'S THEIR HEART. I THINK DR.
00:37:30OZ PROBABLY SPENT TEN YEARS
00:37:32LEARNING TO TRANSPLANT HEARTS AND THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT
00:37:35WORK. THAT WORK CONTINUES TO GO ON. WE'RE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE
00:37:39HEALTH CARE, ACCESS TO HEALTH
00:37:41CARE, NEW TECHNOLOGIES, NEW
00:37:43INVENTIONS. BUT THIS FRAUD HAS BEEN AN INTERRUPTION TO THAT
00:37:47EFFORT. SO DR. OZ AND THE SECRETARY NOW HAVE TWO JOBS.
00:37:51IMPROVE AMERICAN HEALTH CARE FOR
00:37:53EVERYONE AND FIGHT FRAUD. SO WE
00:37:55WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT WORK
00:37:58IS AT CLOSE TO OUR HEARTS. AND
00:38:01VERY IMPORTANT. NOW, INSPECTOR
00:38:04GENERAL'S OFFICE IS A LITTLE KNOWN TO MOST PEOPLE, AND, UH,
00:38:07I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A FEW FUN
00:38:09FACTS. IF I COULD. WE HAVE ABOUT
00:38:121450 EMPLOYEES, 100 OF THOSE
00:38:16EMPLOYEES DO DATA ANALYTICS, 6
00:38:18MILLION TRANSACTIONS A DAY, GO THROUGH HEALTH AND HUMAN
00:38:22SERVICES. SOMEBODY HAS TO LOOK
00:38:25AT THOSE AND WRITE PROGRAMS USING, UH, TYPES OF AI THAT I
00:38:28DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. UH,
00:38:31AND FIND OUT WHERE THE ANOMALIES
00:38:34ARE. SO WHEN SOMEBODY'S BILLING FOR MORE HOURS THAN ARE
00:38:37POSSIBLE, THAT MIGHT FIRST APPEAR IN A DATA BASE AT THE
00:38:40STATE LEVEL OR AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THEY CATCH THAT, THEY
00:38:43MOVE IT OVER TO THE INVESTIGATORS, OF WHICH WE HAVE
00:38:47OVER 400. THEY START A CASE.
00:38:50THEY INCLUDE THE FBI, UH, IRS,
00:38:53HOMELAND SECURITY, AND OUR OTHER PARTNERS, AND INVESTIGATE THE
00:38:57CASE. WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE THAT
00:39:00DO AUDITS OF THESE PROGRAMS. WE FIGURED OUT IN ADVANCE THAT
00:39:03SOMETHING WAS AMISS. AND A LOT
00:39:05OF THE AUTISM PROGRAMS IN MANY STATES, THAT COMES BACK, AND
00:39:08AGAIN, IT GOES TO THE INVESTIGATORS. DATA ANALYTICS
00:39:12GOES TO WORK, AND YOU FIND OUT THAT THERE COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE
00:39:15THAT MANY CHILDREN IN THESE AUTISM PROGRAMS. AS YOU MAY
00:39:19REMEMBER, UH, IN ONE STATE, MINNESOTA, THEY HAD $1 MILLION
00:39:23SPENT ON AUTISM SERVICES FOR
00:39:25CHILDREN. AND FIVE YEARS LATER,
00:39:28THEY WERE SPENDING 343 MILLION, A STATISTIC THAT WE DON'T GET
00:39:31TIRED OF REPEATING. SO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS THE
00:39:35ABILITY TO SEND OUT SUBPOENAS,
00:39:38DO DATA ANALYTICS, DO OLD FASHIONED SHOE LEATHER WORK,
00:39:41UNDERCOVER WORK, ANYTHING THAT OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS DO.
00:39:43SO I, TOO, WANT TO THANK THE LAW
00:39:46ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
00:39:48THE LONG NIGHTS OR DAYS ALONE
00:39:51WITH THE COMPUTER SCREEN, LOOKING AT A SPREADSHEET, LOOKING AT TIMESHEETS, LOOKING
00:39:55AT RECORDS, WRITING SUBPOENAS, DOING SEARCH WARRANTS, DOING
00:39:59SHOE LEATHER WORK. THEY ARE ONE
00:40:01OF THE REAL HEROES OF TODAY. NOW, ON THE ATMOSPHERIC SIDE,
00:40:05YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF DETAILS, BUT LET'S STEP BACK FOR JUST A MINUTE AND THINK FOR A MINUTE
00:40:09ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS,
00:40:13AFTER ALL, PHILADELPHIA, A FEW
00:40:15BLOCKS FROM HERE, ONE OF THE
00:40:18GREAT DOCUMENTS OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION WAS WRITTEN 250
00:40:21YEARS AGO. IT IS THE THEME THAT WE ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE CARE
00:40:25ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR GOVERNMENT,
00:40:28LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PURSUIT OF
00:40:31HAPPINESS. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER
00:40:33IMPORTANT VALUE THAT CAME FROM
00:40:35ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. 170 YEARS AGO, THE CHOP, FOUNDED BY A
00:40:39DOCTOR, ANGLICAN PARISHIONER,
00:40:41WHO SAID, I DON'T LIKE WHAT'S
00:40:43GOING ON WITH MY NEIGHBORS. THE MORTALITY RATE IS TOO HIGH. SO
00:40:47HE STARTS A HOSPITAL. NOW, THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE HOSPITALS IN
00:40:49OUR REGION. MERCY MEDICAL, THE
00:40:54NAME OF THAT HOSPITAL, CEDARS-SINAI. AND DON'T EVER
00:40:58FORGET THAT A GROUP OF NUNS SITTING OVER A WOODEN TABLE AND
00:41:01A BOWL OF SOUP CAME UP WITH THE
00:41:03IDEA FOR THE MAYO CLINIC. SO
00:41:07THESE ARE CORE VALUES THAT COME
00:41:09FROM THE IDEA OF TREATING YOUR NEIGHBOR THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE
00:41:13TO BE TREATED. SO THESE TWO
00:41:15VALUES, DECLARATION OF
00:41:18INDEPENDENCE AND TREATING NEIGHBORS WITH LOVE MEANS THAT
00:41:20THE INFIRM, THE ELDERLY, THE
00:41:23DISABLED, WIDOWS AND ORPHANS ARE
00:41:26CARED FOR. THE LEAST OF THESE
00:41:28ARE NOT LEFT OUT. CONSIDER WITH
00:41:33ME, JUST FOR A SECOND. WHAT IT
00:41:37MEANS THAT THAT'S UNDER ATTACK
00:41:43WHO STEALS FROM THESE PEOPLE?
00:41:45WHAT KIND OF PERSON STEALS FROM
00:41:48THESE PEOPLE? NOT THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE VALUES OF THE
00:41:52DECLARATION, OR ABOUT CARING FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS. THEY CARE ONLY
00:41:56ABOUT THEMSELVES, AND THEY DON'T CARE. AS THE ATTORNEY
00:41:58GENERAL, VERY ARTICULATELY SAID,
00:42:01THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE POOR, THE
00:42:05INFIRM, OR THE DISABLED, OR THE CHILDREN, OR THE WIDOWS AND THE ORPHANS. BUT I KNOW THE PEOPLE
00:42:09IN THIS ROOM DO, AND I KNOW
00:42:11THAT'S THEIR VALUES. I JUST
00:42:14WANT TO THANK THE REST OF THE
00:42:16PARTNERS HERE. IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO SPEAK. NEARLY LAST
00:42:20WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THE DETAILS,
00:42:22BUT THIS IS A CIVILIZATIONAL
00:42:25CHALLENGE. PEOPLE ARE DEMORALIZED IN OUR COUNTRY ABOUT
00:42:28HEALTH CARE. PEOPLE ARE WORKING
00:42:30TO IMPROVE IT. BUT UNTIL WE GET
00:42:32CONTROL OF THIS FRAUD, IF YOU THINK BACK 2 OR 3 YEARS, WHAT
00:42:36THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING OFFICE SAID, TAKE A LOOK AROUND THE
00:42:39ROOM. 1 IN 5 OF US WAS WORKING
00:42:42ALL YEAR TO PAY OUR TAXES, AND
00:42:44THEY WERE BEING STOLEN. 1 IN 5.
00:42:47THAT'S HOW MUCH THE GAO
00:42:49ESTIMATES WE'RE LOSING IN THESE PROGRAMS TO FRAUD. AND THIS IS A
00:42:53GROUP THAT SAYS, NOT ON THEIR
00:42:55WATCH. I LIKE TO KNOW, MOSS, AND
00:42:58I ALSO LIKE DR. OZ'S QUOTE. HE DIDN'T USE IT TODAY, BUT HE
00:43:02OFTEN USES IT THAT IF WE TOOK THE FRAUD OUT OF MEDICARE AND
00:43:04MEDICAID ALONE, WE'D EXTEND
00:43:07THOSE TRUST FUNDS. FIVE YEARS. THAT'S CARING FOR YOUR
00:43:11NEIGHBORS. THAT'S MAKING SURE LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT
00:43:13OF HAPPINESS APPLIES TO EVERYONE
00:43:19SO THANKS AGAIN TO THE SHOE LEATHER. THE LATE NIGHTS WITH
00:43:22THE SCREEN, THE SPREADSHEETS OF THE AGENTS, AND ALSO THE KIND
00:43:25COMMENTS OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. MY OFFICE FUNDS AND
00:43:28CERTIFIES 50 MEDICAID FRAUD
00:43:31CONTROL UNITS AROUND THE NATION.
00:43:33PENNSYLVANIA IS IN THE VERY UPPER ECHELON, AND ONE OF THE
00:43:37ONES WE ASK OTHERS TO LOOK AT.
00:43:41WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF VERY NONPRODUCTIVE ONES WE'RE WORKING
00:43:44WITH VERY CLOSELY TO GET THEM UP
00:43:45TO SPEED. BUT I WANT TO THANK
00:43:48THE MEDICAID FRAUD CONTROL UNIT, WHICH HAS SOME VERY HARD WORKING
00:43:52PEOPLE. BUT LEADERSHIP MATTERS. I THANK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR
00:43:55HIS LEADERSHIP IN THAT AREA. I
00:43:59ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO
00:44:00BRAD. UH MY GOOD FRIEND, SCOTT
00:44:05BRADY, NOT HIS NAME IS NOT BRAD SCOTT BRADY, UH, WHO WE HAD AT
00:44:09HHS AND WAS STOLEN AWAY FROM US
00:44:12BY THE PRESIDENT'S FRAUD TASK
00:44:15FORCE. THANK YOU. >> MARK. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
00:44:19THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR BEING
00:44:22HERE TODAY. I'LL KEEP MY REMARKS BRIEF. I WANT TO REALLY
00:44:26EVERYONE, TO FOCUS ON THE GREAT WORK OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:44:29JUSTICE AND THE STATE ATTORNEY
00:44:32GENERAL, AS MARK SAID, MY NAME IS SCOTT BRADY. I'M THE
00:44:35EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WHITE HOUSE ANTI-FRAUD TASK FORCE IN
00:44:38PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST ADMINISTRATION, I WAS THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR WESTERN
00:44:42PENNSYLVANIA, SO IT IS GOOD TO
00:44:44BE HOME. AS DR. OZ SAID, TODAY
00:44:47IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. TODAY
00:44:50IS ABOUT BRINGING FRAUDSTERS TO
00:44:52JUSTICE. AND TODAY IS ABOUT
00:44:55MAKING PENNSYLVANIA SAFER THAN
00:44:58IT WAS YESTERDAY. AS YOU'VE
00:45:01HEARD DURING THE PREVIOUS
00:45:03ADMINISTRATION, WE WITNESSED AN EXPLOSION OF FRAUD ACROSS THE
00:45:07UNITED STATES. AND THIS FRAUD
00:45:10CRISIS IMPACTED VIRTUALLY EVERY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICE IN
00:45:13EVERY STATE, IN THE UNION. AND
00:45:18WHAT WE HAVE WITNESSED TRULY
00:45:20SHOCKS THE CONSCIENCE. FROM THE
00:45:23HEARING CENTER IN MINNESOTA TO
00:45:26FAKE HOSPICES IN LOS ANGELES TO
00:45:28HERE IN PHILADELPHIA, A
00:45:31FRAUDSTER RUNNING A HOME HEALTH
00:45:33CARE BUSINESS FROM THAT PRISON,
00:45:36BILLING FOR SERVICES NEVER
00:45:40PROVIDED, STEALING YOUR TAX
00:45:43DOLLARS, STEALING FROM THE POOREST AND MOST VULNERABLE OF
00:45:47OUR CITIZENS IN RESPONSE TO THIS
00:45:50CRISIS OF FRAUD, PRESIDENT TRUMP
00:45:52AND VICE PRESIDENT VANCE HAVE
00:45:55LAUNCHED THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE,
00:45:57MOST AGGRESSIVE WAR ON FRAUD IN
00:45:59AMERICAN HISTORY UNDER VICE
00:46:02PRESIDENT VANCE LEADERSHIP, THE
00:46:04ANTI-FRAUD TASK FORCE LEADS 15 FEDERAL AGENCIES IN AN ALL OF
00:46:08GOVERNMENT STRATEGY, AND,
00:46:10PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
00:46:12MANDATE TO US IS CLEAR. HE WANTS
00:46:16US TO STOP FRAUD BY FIRST PREVENTING MONEY FROM GOING OUT
00:46:18THE DOOR. AND SECOND, THANKS TO
00:46:22COLIN MCDONALD AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. HE WANTS
00:46:24FRAUDSTERS PUT IN JAIL FULL
00:46:26STOP. TODAY, TWO OF THE TASK
00:46:30FORCE'S MOST IMPORTANT PARTNERS, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND
00:46:33THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, ARE DELIVERING
00:46:36JUSTICE TO FRAUDSTERS. I WANT TO THANK ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:46:40TODD BLANCHE, A G. COLIN
00:46:42MCDONALD, HHS SECRETARY ROBERT
00:46:45KENNEDY, AND CMS ADMINISTRATOR OZ, FOR THEIR TIRELESS
00:46:49LEADERSHIP. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE U.S. ATTORNEY DAVID
00:46:53METCALF AND PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL DAVE SUNDAY FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP IN FIGHTING,
00:46:56FIGHTING FRAUD, AND KEEPING PENNSYLVANIA SAFE, EVEN WHILE
00:47:00OTHER PENNSYLVANIA LEADERS LOOK
00:47:03THE OTHER WAY AND DO NOTHING.
00:47:06FRAUD IS NOT A VICTIMLESS CRIME
00:47:10FRAUDSTERS STEAL FROM ALL OF US, AND REAL PEOPLE GET HURT. AS
00:47:13YOU'VE HEARD, OUR FAMILIES, OUR
00:47:16FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE FIGHTING
00:47:19TO PROTECT. FOR ME, AS A
00:47:24PENNSYLVANIAN, AS A PITTSBURGHER, THIS FIGHT IS PERSONAL. I WAS RAISED BY A
00:47:28SINGLE MOTHER IN A SMALL APARTMENT IN INNER CITY
00:47:31PITTSBURGH. AS A YOUNG BOY, MOM
00:47:33AND I MOVED TO A SMALL STEEL TOWN OUTSIDE OF PITTSBURGH,
00:47:37WHERE DURING THE 80s, WE HAD THE
00:47:39HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE
00:47:42ENTIRE UNITED STATES. AS THE MILLS SHUT DOWN, 40% OF OUR TOWN
00:47:45WAS UNEMPLOYED. MY FAMILY, EVERY
00:47:49ONE OF MY FRIENDS, FAMILIES
00:47:52RECEIVED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND GOVERNMENT CHEESE AND BUTTER
00:47:56UNTIL WE GOT BACK ON OUR FEET.
00:47:59AMERICA IS THE MOST GENEROUS,
00:48:02GENEROUS NATION IN THE WORLD. HARD WORKING AMERICANS TURN OVER
00:48:06TRILLIONS OF THEIR HARD EARNED
00:48:07DOLLARS TO FUND OUR BENEFITS
00:48:10PROGRAMS, AND THEY DO IT TO HELP
00:48:12THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS THROUGH HARD TIMES.
00:48:16AND THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY RIGHTLY EXPECT THAT IF THEY FALL
00:48:19ON HARD TIMES, THOSE PROGRAMS
00:48:21WILL BE THERE FOR THEM AS WELL.
00:48:23IF WE DON'T STOP THIS FRAUD,
00:48:28THESE PROGRAMS WON'T SURVIVE.
00:48:30AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL SUFFER.
00:48:33AND THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR
00:48:36POLITICS ARE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT MEDICAID, IF YOU CARE ABOUT
00:48:39MEDICARE AND OTHER BENEFIT
00:48:42PROGRAMS, YOU SHOULD SUPPORT
00:48:45FIGHTING FRAUD WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE, AS WE DO WITH
00:48:47EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE UNDER THE VICE PRESIDENT'S
00:48:51LEADERSHIP, THE TASK FORCE IS
00:48:53WORKING INCREDIBLY HARD EVERY
00:48:55SINGLE DAY TO FIGHT FRAUD IN EVERY AGENCY, TO STOP FRAUD
00:48:59BEFORE IT HAPPENS, AND TO FIND,
00:49:02ARREST AND PROSECUTE FRAUDSTERS. WE'VE ALREADY STOPPED TENS OF
00:49:05BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FRAUD,
00:49:07AND WE'VE ALREADY INDICTED AND
00:49:09CONVICTED HUNDREDS OF FRAUDSTERS. AND AS YOU'VE
00:49:13HEARD, WE ARE JUST GETTING
00:49:16STARTED. LET ME BE CLEAR. IF YOU
00:49:20STEAL FROM HARD WORKING AMERICANS, IF YOU STEAL FROM OUR
00:49:22FELLOW PENNSYLVANIANS, YOUR DAYS
00:49:27ARE NUMBERED. WE ARE COMING FOR
00:49:29YOU. THIS FIGHT IS PERSONAL, AND
00:49:34WE WILL NEVER STOP. THANK YOU.
00:49:38>> THANK YOU. SCOTT. WE'LL TAKE
00:49:42A COUPLE QUESTIONS NOW. YES, SIR. >> THERE DEALING.
00:49:44>> DRUGS OUT OF THE PRISON THEY
00:49:47GETTING A CELL PHONE OR SOMETHING TO CLOCK IN AND OUT OF
00:49:50IN THE PRISON >> SO I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO ONE OF THE CHARGED CASES, AND
00:49:54I WON'T GET I WON'T GET SPECIFICALLY INTO THE
00:49:57ALLEGATIONS OF THAT CASE, GIVEN,
00:49:59GIVEN THE OPEN NATURE OF THAT
00:50:02CURRENT PROSECUTION. BUT BUT SPEAKING GENERALLY, WHAT THESE
00:50:06SCHEMES INVOLVE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT WHERE THEY SAY THAT
00:50:08THEY ARE AND WHO ARE IN A
00:50:10CONSPIRACY WITH SOMEONE ELSE AWAY FROM THEIR LOCATION, WHERE
00:50:14THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO THEN
00:50:16EXPLOIT THIS PROGRAM. AS U.S. ATTORNEY METCALF SAID, ONCE,
00:50:20ONCE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE INSIDE THESE PROGRAMS, IT'S
00:50:23VERY HARD TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE
00:50:27HOME CARE SERVICES ARE, IN FACT,
00:50:28PROVIDED. AND SO THAT'S WHY SOMEONE FROM PRISON WOULD BE
00:50:32ABLE TO BE IN A CONSPIRACY WITH SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF PRISON TO
00:50:36KEEP BILLING, TO PRETEND AS THOUGH THEY'RE IN A DIFFERENT
00:50:38PLACE AT HOME, PROVIDING CARE TO
00:50:45AN ADULT RELATIVE. >> SO IN THAT CASE, IN THAT CASE, THE PERSON IN PRISON WAS
00:50:48BEING BILLED BY A COCONSPIRATOR. THE PERSON THEMSELVES WAS NOT
00:50:52BILLING IT. SO TAKE MISS WILLIAMS HUSBAND IN THAT PRISON.
00:50:54BEHIND ME WAS BEING BILLED BY MISS WILLIAMS WHILE HE WAS IN
00:50:58PRISON. THE ALLEGATION IN THAT CASE IS NOT THAT HE HAD A CELL PHONE BILLING IN PRISON.
00:51:02>> TO CLARIFY, WHAT ARE WE
00:51:08>> SO I'LL START FROM THERE. THAT'S THE CHART I DESCRIBED IN
00:51:11TERMS OF PENNSYLVANIA SPENDING. THE FIRST QUOTE IS FROM SEAN
00:51:14MURRAY IN A RECORDED JAIL CALL
00:51:17IN AUGUST 2020 FOR BRAGGING
00:51:18ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A RACKET HOME HEALTH CARE AID IS. THE SECOND
00:51:22QUOTE IS FROM MISS WILLIAMS HUSBAND WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED FOR
00:51:25DRUG TRAFFICKING, EXPLAINING THE
00:51:28PREVALENCE OF HOME CARE FRAUD THAT EVERYBODY IS DOING IT. THE PICTURES THEMSELVES. I'M GOING
00:51:32TO GO FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM. THE TOP ARE FROM THE
00:51:34SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS FROM SEAN
00:51:36MURRAY THAT SHOW HIM POSTING IN
00:51:43VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE
00:51:43GLOBE WHILE BILLING HOME CARE
00:51:47SERVICES FROM THE BOTTOM. THESE ARE SURVEILLANCE PHOTOS TAKEN BY
00:51:51FEDERAL AGENTS, WHILE MR. MURRAY
00:51:54WAS BILLING HOME CARE SERVICES.
00:51:56BUT WE ALLEGE WAS, IN REALITY,
00:51:59TRAFFICKING DRUGS
00:52:03>> ARE ALL OF THESE CASES CONNECTED TO THAT SAME AGENCY? THE COMFORT ZONE HOME HEALTH
00:52:07CARE, LLC, OR ARE THEY A VARIETY
00:52:09OF AGENCIES? >> THESE CASES KIND OF SPAN THE
00:52:13SPECTRUM OF, OF, OF DIFFERENT ACTORS AND DIFFERENT ENTITIES
00:52:16THAT ARE INVOLVED. BUT ALL OF
00:52:17THEM ARE CONNECTED BY THAT COMMON THEME OF EXPLOITING THIS
00:52:22HOME HEALTH CARE PROGRAM. YES, SIR. >> JUST A.
00:52:25>> QUESTION, PERHAPS FOR YOU,
00:52:26DR. ELLIS, WHAT EFFORTS ARE
00:52:30BEING MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT
00:52:31LEGITIMATE HOME HEALTH CARE
00:52:36PROVIDERS AND THEIR PATIENTS AREN'T GETTING, PERHAPS CAUGHT UP IN THIS INTENSE SCRUTINY
00:52:39>> OUR BIGGEST ALLIES. >> INCLUDING FRAUD, ARE THE
00:52:42LEGITIMATE PROVIDERS. KIM BRENT MENTIONED HOSPICE CARE. WE'VE
00:52:46TAKEN OUT ALMOST HALF OF THE HOSPICE CENTERS IN THE ENTIRE
00:52:48STATE OF CALIFORNIA. ALMOST
00:52:52NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED. WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF AI GENERATED NOTES. THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD ON
00:52:56THEM WERE THE OTHER HALF OF PROVIDERS THAT ACTUALLY ARE LEGITIMATE. WE'VE ASKED THE
00:53:00STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA, WE'VE ASKED ALL 50 STATES, AND THIS WAS WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE
00:53:04WHITE HOUSE, TO REVALIDATE THEIR
00:53:07HOME CARE PROVIDERS. REMEMBER,
00:53:09WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNLICENSED INDIVIDUALS IN AN UNMONITORED
00:53:13SETTING. HOW DO THESE GUYS ENFORCE THOSE RULES? SO WE'VE
00:53:16ASKED THE STATES TO GO BACK AND TELL US, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE
00:53:18A HOME CARE PROVIDER? AND THEN
00:53:20TELL US, BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN RULES, WHETHER YOUR PROVIDERS HAVE DONE THAT OR NOT? THE STATE
00:53:25OF MINNESOTA, WHEN THEY DID
00:53:28THIS, LESS THAN HALF OF THE PROVIDERS IN THESE AREAS WERE
00:53:32LEGITIMATELY, BY THEIR OWN RULES, ELIGIBLE TO PROVIDE THESE
00:53:35SERVICES. WHEN THEY SAY EVERYONE
00:53:38DOES IT, THAT'S THE PATHOLOGY. LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON IN
00:53:42PENNSYLVANIA. THE REASON WE HAVE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE, AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
00:53:45FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BECAUSE WE ARE CONCERNED, WE'RE CONCERNED
00:53:47ABOUT A LOT OF STATES. BUT THIS IS PERSONAL FOR ME, BECAUSE I'M
00:53:51FROM THE STATES. DAN BRILLMAN IS SCOTT. A BUNCH OF US ARE
00:53:53OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE ARE. SO WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR
00:53:56STATE SPENDERS IN THE AMOUNT OF
00:53:59MONEY IN HOME CARE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND PROVIDERS? WE'RE
00:54:03OVERPAYING PEOPLE, DOING THE WORK, AND MORE OF THEM THAN REALLY LEGITIMATELY COULD BE
00:54:07DOING THE WORK. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PAYING TOO MUCH PER PERSON.
00:54:10SO WE THINK THERE'S A EASY WAY OF THREADING THIS MASSIVE HOLE
00:54:14IN THE NEEDLE, WHICH IS CUT OUT THE FRAUDSTERS, WHICH AGAIN, MATHEMATICALLY COULD BE A LOT OF
00:54:17THEM, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S DOING IT. AND OTHER STATES HAVE GIVEN US A CLUE THAT IT'S A PROBLEM.
00:54:21YOU KNOW, WE HELP, WE HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE HELP THE FOLKS GETTING THESE BENEFITS,
00:54:25BUT WE ALSO HELP THE LEGITIMATE,
00:54:30APPROPRIATE PROVIDERS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST STEALING
00:54:32MONEY. THESE FRAUDSTERS ARE STEALING OUR TRUST. AND THAT'S A
00:54:36MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THING TO
00:54:40REPLACE.
00:54:40>> YES, SIR.
00:54:44>> UM, QUESTION ABOUT ELECTRONIC VISIT VERIFICATION. ISN'T THAT IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE
00:54:47ARE GETTING PAID FOR BEING AT
00:54:49WORK. SO IS THE IDEA THAT YOU
00:54:52HAVE THE PERSON WHO'S THE RECIPIENT? BENEFICIARY IS THE
00:54:55ONE WHO'S DOING THE VERIFICATION? EVEN IF THE PERSON
00:54:59IS ALREADY HERE? AND HOW DOES LIKE SOMEONE WHO'S BUILDING LIKE
00:55:0313 DIFFERENT AGENCIES, THEY HAVE
00:55:04TO DO THE RIGHT FOR ALL THOSE
00:55:08VISITS. I MEAN, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> SO THERE WAS A FEDERAL
00:55:12STATUTE PASSED IN 2020 TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. I'M HERE
00:55:15TO TELL YOU THAT IT HAS NOT WORKED, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, ALL
00:55:18IT TAKES IS IF YOU HAVE THIS SMARTPHONE APP, IS TO TAP A
00:55:21BUTTON. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE LOCATION SERVICES ENABLED, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRACK YOUR
00:55:25LOCATION, BUT YOU CAN ALSO. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS WHAT THE FRAUDSTERS DID. IN THIS CASE,
00:55:28YOU CAN CALL IN. AND THE ADDRESS
00:55:31THAT COMES BACK TO IS THE REGISTERED ADDRESS ON FILE.
00:55:33IT'S NOT WHERE YOU WERE. AND THAT'S WHAT MANY OF THE FRAUDSTERS DID IN THIS CASE. SO
00:55:37THE EVE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO
00:55:39PREVENT PEOPLE FROM SKIMMING THE SYSTEM AND TO ESTABLISH THAT
00:55:42THEY WERE ACTUALLY THERE.
00:55:46>> ONE MORE QUESTION. UNLESS
00:55:48THERE ARE NONE. THANK YOU ALL. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> YEAH. ONE QUESTION.
00:55:52>> I KNOW THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT
00:55:54THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN HOME CARE PROVIDERS AND HOW THEIR
00:55:57SKEPTICISM OF HOW THEY'RE ALL LEGITIMATE. CALIFORNIA HAS
00:56:00ARGUED THAT THEY HAVE JUST RAMPED UP THEIR PROGRAMS DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE
00:56:04OF YEARS, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SINCE COVID, TO
00:56:08KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF NURSING HOMES. IS THAT PLAYING A ROLE?
00:56:12AND, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT SHARE OF THAT IS COULD BE
00:56:15CONTRIBUTING? AND COULD THAT BE TRUE? HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA?
00:56:18>> WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S. >> A TRUE STATEMENT. WE'VE
00:56:21COMPARED STATES. THIS IS ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS GIVE ALL THE
00:56:24STATES, GIVE ALL THE GOVERNORS THE DATA ON ALL THE OTHER
00:56:28STATES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT TEXAS VERSUS CALIFORNIA, PLAUSIBLE COMPARISONS, THEY'RE NOT SEEING
00:56:32THE SAME KIND OF INCREASE HOURS.
00:56:35IT'S NOT JUST PROVIDERS. THEY'RE PROVIDING THE AVERAGE BENEFICIARY TWICE AS MANY HOURS
00:56:39OF SUPPORT IN CALIFORNIA AS IN
00:56:41TEXAS. THEY'RE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. THEY SHOULD BE RELATIVELY THE SAME. THEY'RE
00:56:45ALSO PAYING MORE THAN TWICE AS
00:56:46MUCH PER HOUR FOR THE PEOPLE
00:56:49WORKING IN THESE AREAS IN CALIFORNIA AS IN TEXAS. I THINK
00:56:52THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM HERE. AND THIS IS NOT FRAUD, WASTE,
00:56:54AND ABUSE BY ITSELF. THIS IS CORRUPTION. ON THE UNDERLYING
00:56:58SYSTEM. WHEN YOU CORRUPT THE PRACTICES THAT RAT OUT THE FOUNDATION OF THE BOAT THAT
00:57:02WE'RE ALL IN TOGETHER, AND WE START TAKING ON WATER, WE CAN
00:57:06START POINTING FINGERS, BUT WHEN EVERYONE IS DOING IT, WHICH IS
00:57:08MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT QUOTE FROM THIS PRESS CONFERENCE, NOT SAID BY ANY OF US UP HERE.
00:57:12THAT'S A REAL PATHOLOGY. BECAUSE THEN IF YOU'RE NOT PART
00:57:15OF THE CORRUPT SYSTEM, YOU'RE A
00:57:17FOOL. WHEN I'M LYING TO YOU AND YOU KNOW I'M LYING TO YOU. AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT I'M
00:57:21LYING TO YOU. AND ON AND ON AND
00:57:23ON. THAT'S HOW COUNTRIES COLLAPSE.
00:57:26>> THANK
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