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00:01:22>> WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.
00:01:24WE ARE JOINED BY JAMES CARVILLE,
00:01:28A LONGTIME DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND HE COHOST A PODCAST CALLED
00:01:32POLITICS, WAR ROOMS. WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
00:01:34>> THANK YOU. >> WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF
00:01:38THE CURRENT STATE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THE RECENT
00:01:40RISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST
00:01:45CANDIDATE?
00:01:47>> IT IS ACTUALLY A COALITION.
00:01:49CLEARLY, COALITION HAS ALWAYS
00:01:54BEEN, TO ME, TOO URBAN.
00:02:02THE DSA IS BASICALLY AN URBAN
00:02:03-BASED POLITICAL GROUP TESTING
00:02:07OUT OF LIMITS TO THE DEMOCRATIC COALITION.
00:02:10IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. IT WILL MANIFEST ITSELF FOR SURE
00:02:14IN 2028 WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL
00:02:20CANDIDATE. >> CLEARLY, THEY ARE WINNING ELECTIONS NOW FOR THIS CYCLE.
00:02:24>> WAIT A MINUTE.
00:02:27THEY ARE WINNING SOME PRIMARIES.
00:02:33OKAY. THEY ARE ALSO -- THE PRESS TENDS
00:02:34TO FOCUS ON THAT IF THEY WIN.
00:02:38BUT NOT IF THEY LOSE.
00:02:40WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE
00:02:44END OF THE 26 CYCLE. MORE PORTLY, THE 28TH CYCLE,
00:02:48THEY WILL HAVE TO RUN SOMEBODY FOR PRESIDENT AND SEE HOW WELL
00:02:50THEY DO.
00:02:54>> THERE IS A RECENT CNN POLL
00:02:55THAT INDICATED THAT A THIRD OF
00:02:58DEMOCRATS NOW IDENTIFY AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS.
00:03:02THIS IS MOSTLY LED BY YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:03:03AND BY YOUNG, WE MEAN UNDER 45.
00:03:06WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT TREND?
00:03:10>> LOOK, A LOT OF THIS IS NOT JUST YOUNG VOTING PEOPLE.
00:03:13HEAVILY YOUNGER WHITE PEOPLE.
00:03:17YOU SEE THAT MORE AND MORE.
00:03:23AND I SUSPECT IT IS SOMETHING YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK.
00:03:27THIS MOVEMENT IS MOSTLY COMING
00:03:31FROM EDUCATED YOUNGER WHITES. IT HAS NOT HAD MUCH OF AN EFFECT
00:03:34YET IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
00:03:37WE WILL SEE WHAT IT IS GOING
00:03:39FORWARD.
00:03:43>> JAMES, YOU SEEM PRETTY DISMISSIVE OF THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS. YOU JUST DON'T THINK IT IS A BIG
00:03:47OF A DEAL?
00:03:51>> I CAN'T SAY I'M DISMISSIVE ABOUT THEM.
00:03:54THEY HAD A NOMINEE THEY WERE BEHIND IN MICHIGAN AND ONE IN
00:03:57WISCONSIN.
00:04:02THEY HAD WON RACES IN NEW YORK. I JUST KNOW THAT THE COALITION
00:04:06WILL BE TESTED IN THE COMING
00:04:09COUPLE OF YEARS, LIKE IT HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED BEFORE.
00:04:12IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
00:04:14MAYBE IN 2028, IT WILL CAUSE THE
00:04:18TWO PARTY SYSTEM TO REALIGN ITSELF OR MAYBE WE WILL HAVE
00:04:22MORE THAN TWO PARTIES. I DON'T KNOW. IT WILL BE HARD TO KEEP
00:04:26EVERYBODY UNDER THE SAME ROOF.
00:04:33>> REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN CALLING DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS, COMMUNISTS.
00:04:36WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
00:04:39>> WE HAVE BEEN CALLING DEMOCRATS COMMUNISTS SINCE THE 1940s.
00:04:42IF I HAD DIRECTED THE FAILURE --
00:04:49I'M JUST SAYING, HOW BIG OF A FAILURE WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:04:52WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC FAILURE IN
00:04:56PORTIONS THAT ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. WE LOST A WAR.
00:04:59WE LOST OUR ALLIES.
00:05:04WE ARE $40 TRILLION IN DEBT.
00:05:09HOW DO YOU GET UP IN THE MORNING AND LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR?
00:05:12I REALLY WOULD NOT KNOW IF I WAS
00:05:16IN A PARTY THAT FAILED THIS COLOSSALLY. >> DO YOU MEAN IN THE LAST TWO
00:05:20YEARS?
00:05:25THEY CERTAINLY WON THE LAST ELECTION AND ARE IN CONTROL OF
00:05:27THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. >> JANUARY 20TH, 2025, DONALD
00:05:31TRUMP TOOK OFFICE.
00:05:35REPUBLICANS HAD COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
00:05:39WE HAVE HAD A BAD, BAD TWO
00:05:45YEARS, EIGHT WERE NINE MONTHS.
00:05:45REALLY BAD.
00:05:49ALL THE SOUND AND FURY AND DISTRACTIONS AND DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS AND WHAT ABOUT THIS
00:05:53AND WHAT ABOUT THAT AND WHAT
00:05:55HAPPENED HERE, IT IS A
00:05:59DISTRACTION FROM THE MAJOR
00:06:00COLOSSAL DEAL THE UNITED STATES
00:06:04IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
00:06:08>> ONE MORE SCENARIO. A LEFTIST STREAMER MADE NEWS RECENTLY.
00:06:12YOU SAID IF HE REMAINS A FORCE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THEN
00:06:15YOU ARE OUT OF HERE. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD TO
00:06:19THAT? >> I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HE HAS NEVER
00:06:23RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE.
00:06:25JUST RUNNING HIS MOUTH.
00:06:30I GUESS HE WILL JUST KEEP RUNNING HIS MOUTH.
00:06:32I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
00:06:35LET'S SEE HOW THESE ELECTIONS GO.
00:06:37WE ARE GOING TO SEE AND
00:06:40PARTICULARLY IN 2020 ON WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS.
00:06:43>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS SAID
00:06:47ABOUT THIS AND THEN I WILL HAVE
00:06:51TO RESPOND TO IT.
00:06:52>> WHEN SOMEONE LIKE JAMES CARVILLE SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT TO
00:06:56BE IN THE SAME POLITICAL PARTY
00:06:57AS A FIGHTER, WHICH ONE WILL YOU
00:07:04TAKE? >> THAT IS NOT MUCH OF A CHOICE.
00:07:07IF MR. CARVILLE DOES NOT WANT TO
00:07:08BE IN THE PARTY I BELONG TO, HE
00:07:14CAN START HIS OWN PARTY.
00:07:17LOOK, WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW IS, YOU CAN TURN THE TABLES AROUND
00:07:20AND SAY, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO
00:07:23BE IN A PARTY WHERE YOUR
00:07:25LEADERSHIP IS TAKING YOU AMOUNTS
00:07:29OF MONEY FROM AIPAC WHICH IS
00:07:31SUPPORTING AN EXTREMIST BENJAMIN NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT, WHICH MANY
00:07:35OF US BELIEVE IT IS GENOCIDE. DO YOU WANT TO BE IN A PARTY WITH PEOPLE WHO DO THAT?
00:07:39YOU WANT TO BE IN A PARTY THAT
00:07:45IS GETTING PARTY MONEY FROM AI OR CRYPTO?
00:07:49YOU CAN PICK WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PICK. I THINK WE NEED A BIG TEST AND I
00:07:52THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE WELCOMED
00:07:57INTO THAT. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK, JAMES CARVILLE?
00:08:00>> I WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF FACT CHECKING.
00:08:03I HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRAT MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE.
00:08:06BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GETS OFF
00:08:09KILLING ME.
00:08:13HE WAS VERY CAREFUL NOT TO SAY THAT HE WAS NOT A DEMOCRAT.
00:08:17THAT HE WAS A SOCIALIST. I DON'T NEED LECTURES ON WHAT IT
00:08:21MEANS TO BE A DEMOCRAT. I REALLY DON'T. AND FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT
00:08:24REALLY A DEMOCRAT --
00:08:27>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR CONVERSATION WITH JAMES CARVILLE
00:08:30AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR ABOUT CAMPAIGN 2026,
00:08:34CALL US NOW.
00:08:44WE WILL GET TO YOUR CALLS SHORTLY.
00:08:47JAMES CARVILLE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SPECIFIC RACES
00:08:51STARTING WITH THE MICHIGAN SENATE RACE.
00:08:53THIS IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN
00:08:56EL-SADED AND MIKE ROGERS.
00:09:01WHERE YOU SEE THAT GOING?
00:09:05>> OBVIOUSLY, HE HAS SAID SOME CONTROVERSIAL THINGS AND THEY
00:09:06KEEP POUNDING THAT.
00:09:10AND THEY WILL POUND THE LEFT WING POLITICS AND THEY WILL
00:09:14POUND DONALD TRUMP'S RUN IN MICHIGAN.
00:09:17AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT
00:09:18MICHIGAN VOTERS ARE MORE UPSET
00:09:21WITH COME WITH SOME IDIOTIC
00:09:24LEFT-WING TALKING POINTS.
00:09:28OR SAYING THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO THAT NOW.
00:09:31I STILL THINK TRUMP WILL BE THE
00:09:34MOTIVATING FACTOR IN THE RACE.
00:09:41>> WHEN YOU SAY PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE THE MOTIVATING FACTOR IN
00:09:43THE RACE, EXPLAINED THAT. EXPLAIN THAT. BECAUSE YOU PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN
00:09:47CRITICAL OF DEMOCRATS PUTTING
00:09:49ALL THE FOCUS ON DONALD TRUMP.
00:09:54>> I WROTE THAT IN JANUARY OF 2025. I THINK IT TURNED OUT TO BE
00:09:56REALLY GOOD ADVICE.
00:09:59THAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD ALLOW
00:10:01HIM TO COLLAPSE UNDER HIS OWN
00:10:05WAY TOO. HE HAS OFFICIALLY COLLAPSED UNDER HIS OWN WEAK.
00:10:08AND NOW IS THE TIME TO KEEP REMINDING PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.
00:10:12AND I WOULD SAY THIS.
00:10:16WHEN THE BACK HAS CHANGED, I CHANGE MY MIND. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE DO.
00:10:19I THINK THE STRATEGY OF GIVING
00:10:22HIM A ROPE AND LETTING HIM HANG HIMSELF HAS WORKED REALLY WELL.
00:10:25AND NOW IT IS TIME TO REAP THE
00:10:28BENEFITS OF THE.
00:10:30>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT GRAHAM PLATTNER, THE FORMER
00:10:34CANDIDATE IN MAINE.
00:10:37THERE IS A QUOTE FROM YOU
00:10:39SAYING, IT IS A SHAME HE ISN'T
00:10:43STILL AROUND OR HE MAY HAVE BEEN THE MOST TALENTED DEMOCRAT SINCE OBAMA.
00:10:47IS THAT CORRECT?
00:10:47DO YOU STILL STAND BY THAT?
00:10:52>> I GUESS I DID SAY THAT. THE CONTEXT -- NEVER SAW HIM
00:10:56CAMPAIGN.
00:11:00READING STORIES ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO CONNECT PEOPLE.
00:11:02HIS ABILITY TO CLAIM A MESSAGE
00:11:05AND WHAT HE WAS SAYING. I WATCHED CLIPS OF IT. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE GUY
00:11:09WAS A GOOD CANDIDATE.
00:11:14JUST A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE.
00:11:19HE HAD A LOT OF DEMONS TO OVERCOME. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.
00:11:22IN TERMS OF SHEER POLITICAL TALENT, HE HAD THAT. I WOULD STAND BY THAT STATEMENT
00:11:26ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. >> DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE RACE?
00:11:30>> I DON'T KNOW. APPARENTLY HE THOUGHT HE
00:11:33COULDN'T AT THE TIME.
00:11:35YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON
00:11:37IN A PERSON'S LIFE.
00:11:41POLITICAL LIFE OR FAMILY LIFE OR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
00:11:45>> AND ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. >> HE HAD ALL OF THAT.
00:11:49IT IS A SENATE SEAT.
00:11:57NOT THAT CLOSE. >> HERE IS KEEP CALLING US FROM
00:12:01PALM BAY, FLORIDA. REPUBLICAN LINE. YOU ARE ON WITH JAMES CARVILLE.
00:12:03>> GOOD MORNING. JAMES, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME
00:12:07CALLING YOU JANE'S -- >> I LOVE THAT.
00:12:11THAT IS MY NAME. PLEASE DO.
00:12:13>> AS MUCH AS I DISAGREE WITH
00:12:16ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU SAY, I HAVE ALWAYS RESPECTED YOU AND I
00:12:19HAVE ALWAYS ENJOYED YOU AND VERY
00:12:27WITH THE BACK AND FORTH. I HOPE SHE IS DOING OKAY.
00:12:31>> SHE IS DOING GREAT.
00:12:35>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL GET BACK TOGETHER AND DO THE
00:12:37CROSSFIRE.
00:12:42>> TO GET TO MY POINT, A LOT OF
00:12:43REPUBLICANS -- THEY ARE CALLING
00:12:50IT THE RED GREEN REVOLUTION. WHETHER YOU CALL THEM SOCIALIST
00:12:54OR COMMUNIST, GOING TOGETHER
00:12:57WITH THE ISLAMISTS TO TAKE OVER
00:12:58THINGS, AND WHAT IS IRONIC IS
00:13:01THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO IRAN
00:13:06AND 79 WHERE THEY JOINED FORCES
00:13:07TOGETHER AND THE GREEN SLAUGHTER
00:13:12THE RED AFTER THEY HELP THEM GET INTO POWER.
00:13:15DO YOU THINK THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY?
00:13:19A RED IN GREEN REVOLUTION.
00:13:21WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
00:13:25>> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT GOING ON.
00:13:27NOT REALLY.
00:13:32I THINK PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE AND WHAT
00:13:35IS HAPPENING IN THEIR LIVES.
00:13:38AND THE COST OF EVERYTHING.
00:13:40THE GIGANTIC CORRUPTION. I THINK THERE IS A REAL SENSE
00:13:44THAT THIS COUNTRY INTERNALLY IS
00:13:47FALLING APART.
00:13:52THANK YOU. THAT THESE
00:14:04PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING ARE FRUSTRATED WITH BOTH PARTIES?
00:14:08GUEST: TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE THE SAME TIME.
00:14:13I COULDN'T TELL YOU THEY AREN'T FRUSTRATED WITH BOTH PARTIES,
00:14:17BUT THE WAY THAT PEOPLE THINK, IF ONE PARTY HAS ALL THE POWER,
00:14:22I THINK PEOPLE THINK LIKE THIS, IF NOTHING'S GOING RIGHT, WHAT
00:14:26DO I HAVE TO LOSE, I'M VOTING FOR THE OTHER PARTY. THE PARTY WE PUT IN THERE
00:14:30OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO THE JOB, IT'S
00:14:34GOING THE WRONG WAY. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THIS OR HASSAN PIKER OR
00:14:38THANKSGIVING DAY OR SOMETHING ELSE? AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE
00:14:43SAY WE ARE LOSING A WAR, COSTS
00:14:47ARE GOING UP LIKE CRAZY, WE CANNOT GET ANYTHING DONE, WE ARE
00:14:51LOSING ALL OF OUR ALLIES.
00:14:53BUDGET OF $41 TRILLION, THEY
00:14:56WILL VOTE THE PARTY THAT'S IN OUT IN SPITE OF THEIR BEST
00:14:59EFFORTS TO COME UP WITH EVERY DISTRACTION TO GET PEOPLE TO NOT
00:15:03THINK ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY AND IN THEIR LIVES.
00:15:13HOST: STEVE, DEMOCRATIC LINE,
00:15:18LAS VEGAS. CALLER: MR. CARVILLE, HOST, SO HONORED TO GET TO SPEAK WITH
00:15:22YOU.
00:15:24I'M A BLACK VOTER WHO IS 59.
00:15:27I FIRST STARTED FOLLOWING
00:15:30POLITICS DURING THE IRAN HOSTAGE CRISIS WHEN I WAS ABOUT 12.
00:15:36I THINK I'VE SEEN THE ENTIRE
00:15:41THING PLAY OUT.
00:15:45WE NEED TO SURRENDER TO IRAN IN
00:15:49ORDER TO ACHIEVE PEACE.
00:15:54A STRATEGIC SURRENDER IN THE SENSE THAT WE WILL OFFER THEM
00:15:57THE RECOGNITION OF PALESTINIAN
00:16:02STATEHOOD IN EXCHANGE FOR OPENING THE STATE OF HORMUZ.
00:16:06WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR
00:16:09POLITICS WITH REGARDS TO IRAN IS BUILT ON RACE.
00:16:13HOWEVER RACIST WE ARE, THEY ARE MORE RACIST THAN US.
00:16:21I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.
00:16:23GUEST: THANK YOU, THAT'S A LOT
00:16:28TO DIGEST THERE. YEAH, WE'VE LOST THIS WORK.
00:16:33WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUT OF THERE RIGHT NOW.
00:16:36THE FASTER WE CAN GET OUT, THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE.
00:16:41IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THIS WAS
00:16:42A COLOSSAL MISTAKE.
00:16:51I DON'T BUY SOME OF THE INTERPRETATIONS OF OUR RECENT
00:16:55CALLER. I THINK IT WAS A COLOSSAL ACT OF STUPIDITY AND BEHALF OF TRUMP,
00:16:59WHICH FALLS IN LINE WITH MOST OF THE THINGS HE DOES.
00:17:03HOST: ATLANTIC CITY, NEW JERSEY,
00:17:07INDEPENDENT LINE.
00:17:09CALLER: THANK YOU, C-SPAN.
00:17:14TO JAMES CARVILLE, I HAVE TO SAY, MY FATHER WAS A HUGE FAN OF
00:17:18YOU, MY MOTHER IS A HUGE FAN.
00:17:19MY HUSBAND AND I ARE HUGE FANS. JUST CAN EVEN SAY.
00:17:24I'M NOT EVEN WORTHY TO BE SPEAKING TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
00:17:30I'M SO EXCITED TO ASK YOU THESE QUESTIONS.
00:17:33I HAVE 1000 QUESTIONS, BUT I KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN TO A
00:17:37FEW. ALL I CAN SAY IS MORE CARVILLE
00:17:40IN THE 26 ELECTION. I WANT TO SAY THAT FIRST.
00:17:46I HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
00:17:49I WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
00:17:51SO, MY FIRST QUESTION IS DO YOU
00:17:55THINK THAT BERNIE SANDERS IN 2016 DIVIDED THE DEMOCRATIC
00:18:00PARTY AND GAVE US TRUMP IN 2016?
00:18:05HOST: OK, HOLD ON, PATTY, LET'S
00:18:10GET AN ANSWER TO THAT FIRST. GUEST: YES.
00:18:19REMEMBER, MORE VOTES IN PENNSYLVANIA, WHO -- MICHIGAN,
00:18:24WISCONSIN THEN HILLARY LOST BY. THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY BEGINS WITH
00:18:27BERNIE SANDERS. UNDERSTAND THAT. DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IS TO NOT
00:18:33UNDERSTAND LOGIC. AND I WOULD ADD THE SECOND BUSH
00:18:37PRESIDENCY STARTED WITH RALPH NADER.
00:18:39WITHOUT RALPH NADER, AL GORE WOULD HAVE WON EASILY.
00:18:43HOST: IN YOUR NEXT QUESTION, PATTY?
00:18:46CALLER: I'M A DEMOCRATIC
00:18:51LEANING, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRAT.
00:18:54I CONSIDER MYSELF AN INDEPENDENT
00:18:56NOW, STARTING 15 YEARS AGO, WHEN THE DEMOCRATS CREATED THE DBS
00:19:02MOVEMENT.
00:19:07BOYCOTTS, DIVESTING FROM ISRAEL.
00:19:08I'M A JEWISH REBELLION.
00:19:13BY THE WAY, DONALD TRUMP RUINED SO MANY LIVES IN ATLANTA, THAT
00:19:17SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. ANYWAY.
00:19:23NOW WE HAVE THIS VIRULENT
00:19:27MOVEMENT WITH THE STUDENTS, THE IVY LEAGUES.
00:19:30I AM SO MAD AT BOTH PARTIES RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
00:19:37OBVIOUSLY, THE SPINELESS REPUBLICANS, THE CORRUPTION OF
00:19:40THE REPUBLICANS, I CAN'T GO WITH THAT.
00:19:43SO, I HAD KIND OF HAVE TO GO WITH THE DEMOCRATS, BUT I JUST
00:19:46DON'T KNOW. I DON'T SUPPORT THE SOCIALIST MOVEMENT.
00:19:52MY THIRD QUESTION IS, CAN THE
00:19:56DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA
00:19:58FORMED THEIR OWN PARTY, LIKE THE GREEN PARTY?
00:20:01I'M KIND OF WITH YOU. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE IN
00:20:05THAT TENT, BUT OF COURSE, THE
00:20:06REPUBLICANS ALLOWED MAGA, SO WHAT DO WE DO?
00:20:12GUEST: FIRST OF ALL, THEY DO
00:20:16HAVE THEIR OWN PARTY, IT'S CALLED THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA.
00:20:20I WISH THEY WOULD STAY CONTENT TO HAVE THEIR OWN PARTY. WE DON'T REALLY NEED YOU.
00:20:26YOU ARE MORE TROUBLE THAN YOU ARE WORTH, IF YOU ASK ME.
00:20:29THEY ARE GOING TO RUN DEMOCRATIC
00:20:33POLICIES, IF THE DEMOCRATIC NAME IS SO BAD, WHY DID THEY KEEP USING IT.
00:20:37YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
00:20:39THE OTHER THING, THERE'S A MAJOR
00:20:43ELECTION COMING UP IN ISRAEL ON OCTOBER 27.
00:20:49IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT THERE WILL BE A CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT
00:20:51IN ISRAEL AND I THINK THAT WILL HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON
00:20:55AMERICAN POLITICS.
00:20:56HOST: SUPPORT FOR THE ISRAELI
00:21:00GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE IN THIS CYCLE, ALONG WITH THE
00:21:04RISE OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST CANDIDATES. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?
00:21:08HAS THAT BEEN A LOSING ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS?
00:21:10GUEST: IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT
00:21:14ISSUE BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, THE
00:21:16GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL DOES THINGS
00:21:21IN HAS POLICIES A LOT OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE AND A LOT OF DEMOCRATS DON'T LIKE.
00:21:25WE DON'T LIKE THE AGGRESSIVE SETTLEMENTS.
00:21:28WE DON'T LIKE A LOT OF POLICIES
00:21:31AND I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT AS A CHANGE POLICY, I THINK A
00:21:35LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE I DO, WE
00:21:36LIKE ISRAEL ALL RIGHT, BUT WE
00:21:40DON'T LIKE THE POLICIES OF THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL.
00:21:44I THINK IS THE SAME WAY.
00:21:47I ANTICIPATE A POSITIVE CHANGE COMING OUT OF THAT.
00:21:49HOST: REPUBLICAN LINE,
00:21:54JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, BILL, YOU ARE ON THE AIR. CALLER: I ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR
00:21:58COMMENTS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY CONCERN FOR DEMOCRATS IS THAT THEIR LEADERSHIP IS ABSENT
00:22:02BECAUSE THEY ALLOW TOO MUCH FOR
00:22:06THE VOTERS TO INTERPRET NEWS AS IT BREAKS EACH DAY.
00:22:10AS SUCH, THAT RELIANCE ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE HAS CAUSED THE
00:22:14FAILURES OF GETTING THE MESSAGE ACROSS ABOUT WHO THEY ARE.
00:22:17AND IF I MAY DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE SANDERS 2016 RACE, I
00:22:21THINK THAT HAD HE BEEN THE NOMINEE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
00:22:26, HE WOULD HAVE CARRIED THE DAY, BECAUSE HE AND TRUMP SHARED
00:22:29SOMETHING IN COUNTRY, WHEREAS
00:22:34HILLARY WAS WHAT SHE WAS.
00:22:36THE SADNESS IS THAT THEY WERE BOTH TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN
00:22:41AND THEY WERE TALES OF TRUMP. YOUR THOUGHTS, PLEASE QUESTION
00:22:44MARK GUEST: I KIND OF LOST TRACK OF SOME OF THAT QUESTION.
00:22:47HOST: SO, HE THINKS THAT IF
00:22:50BERNIE SANDERS HAD WON THE PRIMARY IN 2016, HE WOULD HAVE
00:22:54WON THE ELECTION. DO YOU AGREE?
00:22:56GUEST: I CAN'T PROVE OR DISPROVE
00:22:59THAT, NEITHER CAN HE. BUT HE WASN'T THE NOMINEE AND I
00:23:02DO THINK THAT HIS TEPID
00:23:11ENDORSEMENT IS A REASON TRUMP'S PRESIDENT. THERE'S VERY LITTLE DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
00:23:15HOST: FELIX, DEMOCRATIC LINE,
00:23:21FAYETTEVILLE, GOOD MORNING.
00:23:23CALLER: GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE
00:23:27Y'ALL ON THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY? HOST: GOOD, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
00:23:31CALLER: A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
00:23:35THIS IS MY 14TH PRESIDENT.
00:23:38I USED TO BE A REPUBLICAN UNTIL
00:23:4168, WHEN NIXON CAME UP WITH HIS SOUTHERN STRATEGY.
00:23:44I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PROBLEM IS THE MARKETING. LET ME GIVE YOU THREE QUICK
00:23:49EXAMPLES. THIS THING ABOUT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS, THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO
00:23:53THE REPUBLICAN EVOLUTION FROM NIXON AND REAGAN.
00:23:58THE TEA BAGGERS, THE FREEDOM
00:24:00CAUCUS, AND MAGA, THEY ARE ALL
00:24:04RADICALS. SECOND, IF ANYONE DESIRES A TRUE OPINION ON THE IRAN WAR OR ANY
00:24:09WORK, SIMPLY ADVERTISE A
00:24:11REQUIREMENT THAT IT IS REQUIRED THAT EVERYBODY BEFORE THEY ARE
00:24:1518 HAS TO, IF YOU ARE MALE, HAS
00:24:18TO REGISTER FOR THE DRAFT THE WAY I THINK YOU AND I DID BACK
00:24:22IN THE 60'S.
00:24:24LAST OF ALL, THE TAX SITUATION.
00:24:27THAT BIG BODACIOUS BILL, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT.
00:24:31I WAS READING ARTICLES SHORTLY AFTER THAT, MARK ZUCKERBERG OR
00:24:35WAS TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD
00:24:36IN A SUPER YACHT NAMED LAUNCHPAD.
00:24:39IF YOU HAD A PHONE AND A LAPTOP, HE COULD PROBABLY WRITE THAT OFF
00:24:43AS HIS OFFICE.
00:24:46HE TOOK A ONE TIME RIGHT OFF OF
00:24:49$18 BILLION ON HIS TAXES IN 2024 BECAUSE OF THAT BILL.
00:24:53WHAT PRODUCT DOES FACEBOOK OR
00:24:59META, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, PRODUCE?
00:25:01NOT ONLY THAT, I READ AN ARTICLE YESTERDAY, THIS IS THE LAST
00:25:05THING, THAT BOAT, LAUNCHPAD,
00:25:09UNDER ZUCKERBERG, REFUSED THE
00:25:13MARITIME RULE OF HELPING A STRANDED BOAT OFF THE CAPE, THE
00:25:17COAST, FROM THE MOST SOCIALIST
00:25:20STATE AROUND, ALASKA, WHERE THEY PAY YOU TO LIVE THERE.
00:25:24YOU ALL KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
00:25:30SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET EDUCATED. YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.
00:25:34HOST: JAMES CARVILLE, THERE'S A
00:25:38LOT THERE, BUT HE SAYS THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A MARKETING PROBLEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
00:25:42THAT? GUEST: WHO ARE ALWAYS GOING TO
00:25:46HAVE MARKETING PROBLEMS AROUND
00:25:49PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, IT'S
00:25:50REALLY HARD FOR THE PARTY TO
00:25:54HAVE MESSAGING CONSISTENCY. RIGHT NOW THE MARKETING STRATEGY
00:25:58IS SIMPLY -- VOTE FOR CHANGE, WE'RE NOT TRUMP.
00:26:02THAT CAN BE PRETTY POWERFUL THROUGH HISTORY.
00:26:04IT'S GOING TO BE -- HAVE TO BE
00:26:07FLUSHED OUT BY DEMOCRATIC VOTERS IN 2028.
00:26:10IT'S THAT SIMPLE. IT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH.
00:26:13DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS WILL
00:26:17DETERMINE THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF THE PARTY.
00:26:19HOST: YOU MENTIONED THE ONE BIG
00:26:24BEAUTIFUL BILL. DO YOU THINK THAT TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY WOULD BE A WINNING
00:26:27STRATEGY FOR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES? GUEST: IT'S THE SINGLE MOST
00:26:32POPULAR IDEA FOR DEMOCRATIC POLITICS, TAX RICH PEOPLE IN USE
00:26:37MONEY TO HELP MIDDLE AND YOUNG
00:26:40PEOPLE THROUGH THIS ECONOMY THEY LIVE IN.
00:26:45YES, THAT WILL BE A VERY, VERY CENTRAL PARK.
00:26:48I WOULD URGE DEMOCRATS TO LOOK AT THIS CLOSELY.
00:26:53BERNIE MORENO, OHIO, SET IT THIS
00:26:55MORNING, WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT
00:26:59PUTTING TAXES ON SOCIAL SECURITY
00:27:01EARNINGS, BIGGEST REVENUE
00:27:04RAISING IDEA I'VE EVER HEARD, IT
00:27:06MAY COME TO 100 $90,000 PER YEAR
00:27:09AND IT WON'T CAUSE TO A PENNY AND IF THE DEMOCRATS ENDORSE
00:27:12THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, THAT'S A
00:27:14BIPARTISAN WAY TO DEAL WITH THE
00:27:17INEQUITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE
00:27:21INCOME STRATIFICATION WE ARE GOING THROUGH.
00:27:25IT'S A MASSIVELY POPULAR IDEA. THE PERSON WHO GRABS THIS IDEA IS GOING TO DO VERY WELL.
00:27:33HOST: TONYA, INDEPENDENT.
00:27:36CALLER: I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY
00:27:41ACCENT. I GREW UP IN THE SOVIET UNION.
00:27:48UKRAINE, PART OF THE SOVIET UNION. GUEST: YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ACCENT, SPEAK UP.
00:27:52CALLER: WHY NOBODY ON EITHER
00:27:56SIDE, DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN, SPECIFICALLY MOTHER OF
00:27:59DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS, WHY NO TV
00:28:04PROGRAM OR RADIO PROGRAM INVITE
00:28:07PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO GREW UP IN A
00:28:10COMMUNIST SOCIALIST COUNTRY? I CAME TO UNITED STATES IN MY
00:28:1430'S. I TOTALLY KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
00:28:17WHAT IT IS, COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM.
00:28:21WHY NOBODY INVITES PEOPLE LIKE ME FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT
00:28:24SOCIALISM TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE
00:28:27WHO WANT IT, BECAUSE THEY WANT
00:28:31ALL THE BENEFITS BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK FOR IT. WE WERE WORKING LIKE SLAVES
00:28:36THERE AND WERE PAID VERY LITTLE.
00:28:39JUST A MINIMUM SO THAT PEOPLE WILL SURVIVE. IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY BAD.
00:28:45AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME TO BE INVITED TO DISCUSSIONS.
00:28:52HOST: WHAT DO YOU THINK, JAMES
00:28:56CARVILLE? GUEST: IN A REPRESENTATIVE
00:29:00DEMOCRACY, COMPLAINTS OF PEOPLE HAVE, MY VOICE DOESN'T GET HEARD, THEY DON'T LISTEN TO
00:29:04PEOPLE LIKE ME. I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
00:29:08AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU
00:29:10GREW UP IN A DIFFERENT SYSTEM, I'M VERY GLAD YOU ARE HERE, VERY
00:29:14GLAD YOU BROUGHT YOUR TALENTS. I LOVE IMMIGRANT PEOPLE.
00:29:24OUR DEMOCRACY, PARTICULARLY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, IS NOT
00:29:27PARTICULARLY CLOSE TO THE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT BETTER, BUT WE CAN TRY.
00:29:32HOST: YOU SAID IT WAS THE
00:29:35DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS WHO WILL DETERMINE THE FUTURE
00:29:37DIRECTION OF THE PARTY.
00:29:40THE PRIMARIES ARE MOSTLY OVER AT THIS POINT.
00:29:43GUEST: I'M TALKING ABOUT 28, TO
00:29:47BE CLEAR. THE DIRECTION OF THE PARTY WON'T BE DETERMINED IN 26.
00:29:50HOST: WHY NOT?
00:29:52GUEST: THERE'S NOTHING UNIFYING.
00:29:56WHEN THE WHOLE PARTY COMES
00:29:57TOGETHER PERSON, ONE MESSAGE, ONE ELECTION.
00:30:07EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW HAS DIFFERENT IDEAS, SENATE AND
00:30:10HOUSE RACES THAT ARE BEING RUN.
00:30:13EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO
00:30:14PONY UP, AND YET IN 2028 AND WE
00:30:17WILL SEE WHERE THIS GOES.
00:30:19A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND
00:30:22COMMENTATORS IN THE PRESS, THE
00:30:25INFLUENCERS, THE SOCIAL
00:30:27INFLUENCERS, MINING ANSWERS, WE
00:30:30ALL LIKE TO THINK WE HAVE A SAY IN THIS AND HONESTLY?
00:30:33IT'S THE VOTERS IN 2028 THAT WILL DETERMINE THIS AND WE WILL
00:30:36FOLLOW WHATEVER THEY DO AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
00:30:44LAUREL, MARYLAND, REPUBLICAN LINE. HOST: DAMIEN: GOOD MORNING.
00:30:47CALLER: MR. CARVILLE, DO YOU
00:30:50THINK THAT IF HILLARY CLINTON TRIED TO RUN AGAIN SHE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AND WHAT DO YOU
00:30:53THINK OF GAVIN NEWSOM PAST CHANCES?
00:30:57WHERE ARE THE BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS? THANK YOU.
00:31:00GUEST: I DON'T THINK HILLARY IS
00:31:05REMOTELY CONSIDERING RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN.
00:31:08THE BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS?
00:31:12IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
00:31:16IN THE SOUTH, WE LOST A LOT OF SPACE.
00:31:20BY THE WAY, WE WILL WIN A LOT OF THEM BACK IN THE SOUTH.
00:31:22DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU DON'T
00:31:25SEE A STORY NEXT NOVEMBER OR
00:31:28DECEMBER ABOUT THE RETURN OF THE BLUE DOGS.
00:31:31WE ARE COMPETITIVE AND A LOT OF THESE HOUSE RACES AND A LOT OF
00:31:34THEM IN THE SOUTH, TO BE FRANK WITH YOU, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
00:31:37WIN THE SENATE SEAT IN MISSISSIPPI AND IN TEXAS.
00:31:42I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IF WE PAY
00:31:44ATTENTION TO IT, WE HAVE A CHANCE MAYBE IN SOUTH CAROLINA
00:31:47OR LOUISIANA.
00:31:50WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BIG YEAR.
00:31:52WE ARE GOING TO WIN IN PLACES WE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD WIN BEFORE.
00:31:59HOST: HE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF GAVIN NEWSOM.
00:32:03CALLER: GOVERNOR OF THE --
00:32:04GUEST: GOVERNOR OF THE LARGEST STATE, HE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE ABLE
00:32:09TO RAISE A LOT OF MONEY.
00:32:10BUT HOW WILL HE CONNECT TO BLACK
00:32:16VOTERS IN PLACES LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA? BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM
00:32:19SERIOUSLY, HE'S GOT A BIG POCKETBOOK AND HE WALKS INTO THE
00:32:23NOMINATING PROCESS WITH THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF DELEGATES OF A YOUNG STATE.
00:32:30YOU CANNOT DISMISS IT, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW HE CONNECTS
00:32:33WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. THE COMPETITION OUT THERE IS
00:32:37GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY STRONG.
00:32:42I SAY EVERYBODY, JUMP IN.
00:32:45HOST: IS THERE A CANDIDATE YOU ARE ESPECIALLY?
00:32:53EXCITED ABOUT?
00:32:55GUEST: I WANT TO WATCH AND SEE.
00:32:59SOME PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS ABOUT WHO
00:33:02IS, CAN TURN OF PHRASE, BUT
00:33:06LET'S GET OUT THERE TO SEE WHO DOESN'T.
00:33:10THE BETTER THE COMPETITION, THE BETTER EVERYBODY PLAYS UP TO IT.
00:33:13I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD BE IN A HURRY TO DECLARE I'M FOR
00:33:16THIS PERSON RIGHT NOW.
00:33:19PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE AN OPEN MIND.
00:33:23WE ARE PUTTING SOME AWESOME POLITICAL TALENT OUT THERE.
00:33:26HOST: STEPHEN, CONNECTICUT,
00:33:30YOU'RE ON WITH JAMES CARVILLE.
00:33:31CALLER: I THINK THAT JON OSSOFF
00:33:35WILL BE THE MAN, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M CALLING ABOUT.
00:33:37I WANT TO NARROW DOWN ON MIKE
00:33:41ROGERS AND THE THEME OF ENDLESS WARS.
00:33:45I SEE THEM RUNNING A LOT OF CAMPAIGN ADS AGAINST HIM WITH
00:33:48ENDLESS WARS AND I AGREE, I'M SICK OF ENDLESS WARS.
00:33:52IT JUST KEEPS GOING AND GOING AND GOING. BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL BE
00:33:56REMEMBERED AS THE NEW JIMMY CARTER.
00:33:59IRAN IS NOT STUPID.
00:34:02THEY HAVE HIM BY THE, YOU KNOW,
00:34:06PROVERBIAL CAJONES, AND THEY
00:34:11WILL DRIVE THIS THING FOREVER.
00:34:11GUEST: WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
00:34:15AND WHAT I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE
00:34:17IS IS WE ARE HAVING AN ENDLESS
00:34:21CONVERSATION ABOUT ENDLESS WARS, SO LET'S STOP HAVING ENDLESS
00:34:25WARS SO WE CAN STOP HAVING
00:34:27ENDLESS CONVERSATIONS. I AGREE WITH THIS CALLER.
00:34:30HISTORIANS LOOK BACK.
00:34:37THE IRAQ INCURSION, EXCURSION, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT,
00:34:41IT WILL BE ONE OF THE MORE COLOSSAL AND STUPID MISTAKES THE
00:34:44NATION IS MADE IN A LONG TIME.
00:34:46AND I JUST HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL
00:34:54REALIZE IT'S TIME TO JUST GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.
00:34:57IT'S A TERRIBLE ERROR THAT COSTS THE WORLD I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
00:35:01BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INCREASED ENERGY
00:35:06COSTS. THE WHOLE PLACE IS NOT VERY STABLE.
00:35:12WE SHOT OFF ALMOST ALL OF OUR ORDINANCE IN ITS IS NOT A VERY
00:35:16GOOD EXCURSION.
00:35:17HOST: PAUL IS NEXT, DEMOCRAT, ILLINOIS.
00:35:21CALLER: IT'S CARL.
00:35:25NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN, BUDDY.
00:35:32ANYWAY, TAKING A LOOK AT THIS
00:35:34THING, THERE'S A REASON WHY SO MANY PRESIDENTS NEVER WANTED TO
00:35:37DEAL WITH IRAN.
00:35:42THEY ARE STICKING THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.
00:35:46THEN WE GET OPINIONS THAT HE'S
00:35:49BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE AND DOES IT ANYWAY AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS?
00:35:53I DON'T GET IT. WHY?
00:35:56GUEST: THANK YOU FOR CALLING,
00:35:59THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION, AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF YOU SAID.
00:36:04SOMETHING HAPPENED, THIS WAR IS VERY UNPOPULAR AND THEY ARE
00:36:07GOING TO LOSE THE ELECTION VERY BIG.
00:36:10WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS DEMOCRATS IS KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE WAR AND
00:36:13WHAT'S HAPPENING TO PEOPLE'S
00:36:15LIVES AND KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE
00:36:19MASSIVE CORRUPTION. IF WE DO THOSE THINGS AND STAY
00:36:22AWAY FROM IDIOTIC ARGUMENTS AS
00:36:25TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD --
00:36:29OUGHT TO HAVE THANKSGIVING OR NOT, WE WILL DO JUST FINE.
00:36:33BUT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE GOT
00:36:35THESE URBAN LEFTISTS OUT THERE RUNNING AROUND LISTENING TO
00:36:39THEMSELVES TALKING?
00:36:41HOST: GOING BACK TO 2028, JAMES
00:36:47CARVILLE, HOW WOULD YOU ASSESS
00:36:49THE CAMPAIGN OF FORMER VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND IF
00:36:52YOU WOULD ENCOURAGE HER TO GET INTO THE RACE AGAIN?
00:36:56GUEST: AGAIN, I'M ENCOURAGING
00:37:00EVERY DEMOCRAT TO RUN, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT RUN, THE BETTER THE
00:37:05CHOICES. LOOK, SHE'S A FORMER VICE
00:37:07PRESIDENT, FORMER U.S. SENATOR.
00:37:10SHE WAS THE NOMINEE FOR PARTY.
00:37:20IT WOULD BE STRATEGIC. IT WILL BE KIND OF HARD FOR
00:37:24THEM, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT 2028 AND
00:37:28BEYOND AND I'M NOT SURE SHE CAN GET OUT OF THE 2024
00:37:32CONVERSATION, BUT IF SHE WANTS TO RUN, SHE SHOULD.
00:37:37HOST: INDEPENDENT LINE, DEBORAH.
00:37:41CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
00:37:44I'M AN INDEPENDENT BUT I HAVE NEVER VOTED REPUBLICAN AND A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
00:37:50I REJOINED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTLY
00:37:52BRIEFLY TO VOTE FOR HILLARY IN THE PRIMARY, BUT QUICKLY LEFT
00:37:56WHEN SHE LOST. I BELIEVE I'M PART OF THE NEW
00:37:59SILENT MAJORITY, THE PEOPLE WHO
00:38:02HAVE BECOME SO DISAFFECTED BY
00:38:08THE FAR RIGHT AND FAR LEFT RHETORIC IN BOTH PARTIES.
00:38:12WHEN CAN WE RETURN TO THE CIVIL CONVERSATION BETWEEN BOTH SIDES
00:38:16AND IS THERE A CHANCE THAT THERE COULD BE AN INDEPENDENT PARTY
00:38:19AND WHO WOULD THE CANDIDATE BE THAT REPRESENTS US?
00:38:22GUEST: I HEAR THIS.
00:38:28I WILL ADMIT IT.
00:38:31ATTACKING THE CAPITAL, YOU KNOW?
00:38:36YOU GOT TO ADMIT, THE DEMOCRATS ALSO HAVE THEIR CRAZIES.
00:38:40THE PROBLEM IS, I AM VERY
00:38:46CONFIDENT THAT THEY WON'T DO WELL IN 2028.
00:38:50THE LEFT ALWAYS HAS A CANDIDATE THAT HAS NEVER WON. THEY DON'T SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S
00:38:55NOT THE NARRATIVE OF A COUNTRY.
00:39:01THE TWO THIRDS THAT OVERWHELM THE PARTY WAS FIRST A CRIMINAL
00:39:06ACT. THERE IS ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN
00:39:10THE WORLD BETWEEN A PARTY DID BY
00:39:1315% JUST ESPOUSES STUPID STUFF
00:39:17AND SAYS STUPID THINGS AND ANOTHER PARTY WHERE TWO THIRDS
00:39:21OF IT ARE TOLERANT AND
00:39:24SUPPORTING OF CRIMINALITY.
00:39:26AND UNTIL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL THAT OUT AND SAY -- WAIT A
00:39:31MINUTE. ONE THING YOU TALK ABOUT, PEOPLE
00:39:33SAYING DUMB STUFF.
00:39:36ALL RIGHT, PEOPLE SHOULDN'T SAY DUMB STUFF.
00:39:40NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE
00:39:41SUPPORTING OF CRIMINALITY, I
00:39:46DON'T KNOW, TO ME IT SOUNDS A GOOD BIG DIFFERENCE. A BIG DIFFERENCE.
00:39:52RIGHT NOW THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IS TO SAY JUST VOTE WE
00:39:55JUST NEED A LITTLE CHANGE AND WE
00:39:59WILL ALL BE FINE, BECAUSE MAYBE
00:40:04SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TV AND
00:40:10CRIMINALITY IS STUFF ON TV OTHER
00:40:13THAN JUST THE STUFF PEOPLE SAY.
00:40:16GUEST: HE MENTIONED CIVILITY IN
00:40:21POLITICS. IS IT GONE FOREVER? GUEST: DID I MENTION IT?
00:40:24HOST: NO, THE CALLER DID.
00:40:26GUEST: NO.
00:40:29I THINK THAT I WOULD GO OUT AND
00:40:37I THINK IN 2028, AND THE
00:40:44DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES THERE WILL BE LESS TALK ABOUT TRUMP THAN ANYBODY THINKS BECAUSE WE ARE
00:40:47JUST ON WITH HIM.
00:40:52THE CANDIDATE WHO TALKS ABOUT THE COUNTRY IN THE FUTURE AND
00:40:54WHERE WE NEED TO GO, IT CAN BE
00:40:59THE CANDIDATE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE TRUMP IS.
00:41:08THE MOST CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION IMAGINABLE.
00:41:18I THINK TRUMP WILL BE A LESSER PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
00:41:22HOST: REPUBLICAN LINE, DENVER
00:41:26CITY, TEXAS. CARLOS?
00:41:28CALLER: HOW ARE YOU?
00:41:30HOST: GOOD, THANKS.
00:41:32CALLER: I'M NOT AN EDUCATED
00:41:36PERSON, I MEETING TO WATCH ALL
00:41:43THE NEWS IN THE BS COMES FROM UP
00:41:47NORTH. WHEN I VOTE FOR A PRESIDENT, I
00:41:49VOTE FOR WHAT THEY WILL DO FOR
00:41:51THE COUNTRY, NOT WHAT I PUT IN MY POCKET.
00:41:56ALL OF THEM PEOPLE UP THERE,
00:41:57THEY ARE PUTTING ALL OF THESE,
00:42:00PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELONG IN OFFICE.
00:42:03ALL OF THEM DRUG HEADS, THEY DON'T BELONG IN OFFICE.
00:42:06THEY ARE TRYING TO RUN THIS
00:42:09COUNTRY, THEY SHOULD RUN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
00:42:17IT'S A COMMON CHANGE IN PRINCIPLES AND THAT'S ALL ABOUT TO SAY.
00:42:21HOST: -- GUEST: C-SPAN VIEWERS
00:42:28HAVE SLIGHTLY MORE INFORMED OF YOUR ASH VIEWS.
00:42:33NAME A SINGLE POSITIVE ECONOMIC
00:42:35STATISTIC THAT DEMOCRATIC
00:42:41PRESIDENTS HAVE NOT PROFOUNDLY OVER PERFORMED REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT.
00:42:44YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.
00:42:51AS FAR AS BEST FOR THE COUNTRY
00:42:52AND BEST FOR THE POCKETBOOK,
00:42:56SURE, BUT ANY VOTER, ANY VOTER
00:43:00THAT TENDS TO THINK THAT
00:43:01POCKETBOOK ISSUES MATTER AND
00:43:05THAT LOOKS AT HISTORY, I'M SORRY, YOU ARE LEFT WITH ONE CHOICE.
00:43:10IT'S 100 TO NOTHING.
00:43:14THE ECONOMY UNDER DEMOCRATS
00:43:18OUTPERFORMS THE ECONOMY UNDER REPUBLICANS.
00:43:20HOST: WHAT TRUMP SUPPORTERS
00:43:24WOULD TELL YOU NOW IS TO POINT TO THE STOCK MARKET DOING WELL UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
00:43:29GUEST: I WOULD BE GLAD TO
00:43:32INCORPORATE HISTORICAL STOCK MARKET AVERAGES.
00:43:36DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AT HOME,
00:43:381945, IF I WOULD HAVE JUST HAD MONEY IN THE STOCK MARKET DURING
00:43:42A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCY, HOW MUCH MONEY BUT I HAVE, AND
00:43:46CONVERSELY ONLY UNDER REPUBLICAN
00:43:49PRESIDENTS, HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE?
00:43:54YOU CAN POINT OF THE STOCK MARKET, IT'S A MILLION TIMES PEOPLE HAVE SAID THE STOCK
00:43:57MARKET IS NOT THE ECONOMY. YOU FAILED TO MENTION JOB MARKET.
00:44:02THAT'S A DIFFERENT FACT AND THAT'S NOT ON THE OTHER HAND.
00:44:06AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN BILL CLINTON
00:44:09WAS PRESIDENT, IF YOU EVER USED STOCK MARKET ON TV THEY WOULD
00:44:13CALL AND TELL YOU YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT, YOU
00:44:17DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO, THAT'S NOT THE ECONOMY.
00:44:21I WOULD REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT. LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE.
00:44:24IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.
00:44:27HOST: ANGELA, DEMOCRAT, WISCONSIN.
00:44:31CALLER: FIRST TIME CALLER,
00:44:35LONGTIME LISTENER, HELLO, JAMES.
00:44:37YOU SHARED A SYNOPSIS OF THE
00:44:412016 ELECTION AND I WHOLLY DISAGREE.
00:44:45I MADE CALLS IN IOWA TO VOTERS,
00:44:48LARGELY REPUBLICAN VOTERS,
00:44:50LEADING UP TO THE 2016 -- THEY SHARED WITH ME THEY WOULD VOTE
00:44:54BERNIE OVER TRUMP.
00:44:56HOWEVER THEY WOULD VOTE TRUMP
00:44:58OVER HILLARY AND WE SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT ELECTION.
00:45:04I WANT TO ENCOURAGE VOTERS TO VOTE YOUR INTEREST.
00:45:07DON'T ALLOW WEALTHY OLD MEN TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO OR
00:45:11HOW TO VOTE.
00:45:12LET THE PARTIES -- DON'T LET THE
00:45:16PARTIES TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE. VOTE YOUR INTERESTS. VOTE YOUR NEEDS.
00:45:20THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GUEST: I WON'T ARGUE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
00:45:25HOST: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO YOUNG VOTERS WHO ARE SAYING
00:45:28WE'VE HAD ENOUGH WITH
00:45:32CAPITALISM. IT HAS NOT WORKED FOR US. WE CAN'T BUY A HOUSE.
00:45:36WE CAN'T PAY OFF OUR STUDENT LOANS. WE CAN'T EVEN FIND A JOB.
00:45:41SO, LET'S TRY SOCIALISM.
00:45:43GUEST: I CAN CERTAINLY
00:45:47UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. ALSO, THE FORM OF CAPITALISM WE
00:45:51HAVE IS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING THE
00:45:51OLD PEOPLE, PROTECTING VESTED
00:45:56INTEREST, PROTECTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY AND REALLY ISN'T
00:46:00FAVORABLE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO BORROW MONEY AS OPPOSED TO THOSE
00:46:04WHO ALREADY HAVE IT. THE TAX CODE IS RIGGED AGAINST YOU.
00:46:08WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE SOME AFFIRMATIVE POLICIES.
00:46:11THAT WOULD HELP YOU A LOT.
00:46:15RAISING THE CAPITAL TAXES ON
00:46:16SOCIAL SECURITY WOULD BE ABOUT
00:46:20$3 TRILLION OVER 10 YEARS. I THINK WE NEED THE TAX WEALTH
00:46:23AND HIGHER INCOME PEOPLE MORE.
00:46:26MORE STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS. MORE FIRST TIME MORTGAGE
00:46:29ASSISTANT SO YOU HAVE HOME BUYERS. BEING PRICED OUT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.
00:46:33TO HAVE ANY NUMBER OF VERY VALID
00:46:36REASONS -- YOU HAVE ANY NUMBER OF VERY VALID REASONS TO BE
00:46:40DISGUSTED WITH THE SYSTEM.
00:46:41I THINK THE IDEA OF SOCIALISM --
00:46:46I'M NOT SURE. IT'S JUST A WORD THAT PEOPLE THROW AROUND.
00:46:52YOU HAVE A LOT OF REASON TO BE
00:46:54FRUSTRATED, DISAPPOINTED, YOU
00:46:59LOSE FAITH IN THE SYSTEM. I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO DO THAT.
00:47:03I WOULD LISTEN TO WHAT THE CANDIDATE SAY AND PUT THEM ON THE PULPIT.
00:47:06ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE TO LET THIS GENERATION OF ANY QUALITY
00:47:10JUST SUFFOCATE THE YOUNGER PEOPLE IN AMERICA? I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION.
00:47:14HOST: THAT'S THE TIME WE HAVE.
00:47:18JAMES CARVILLE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST.
00:47:21YOU CAN FIND HIM AT HIS PODCAST,
00:47:24WHICH IS CALLED "POLITICS WAR ROOM." THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, JAMES.
00:47:27GUEST: THANKNEWARK
00:49:45INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
00:49:47WHERE THERE WERE ALLEGED EQUIPMENT FAILURES LAST YEAR.
00:49:50>> IN A FEW MOMENTS, WE ARE
00:49:53GOING TO HOIST A NEW SURFACE
00:49:56AWARENESS RADAR BUT I WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE MOMENTS TO TALK