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00:00:02>> AND A DIVIDED MEDIA WORLD,
00:00:03ONE WAY SPRINGS AMERICA
00:00:07TOGETHER. ACCORDING TO A RESEARCH REPORT, 90 MILLION AMERICANS TURNED TO
00:00:11C-SPAN AND THEY ARE ALMOST PERFECTLY BALANCED.
00:00:1528% CONSERVATIVE, 28% LIBERAL OR PROGRESSIVE, 41% MODERATE.
00:00:19REPUBLICANS WATCHING DEMOCRATS,
00:00:22DEMOCRATS WATCHING REPUBLICANS,
00:00:26MODERATES WATCHING ALL SIDES. C-SPAN VIEWERS WANT THE FACTS
00:00:29FROM THE SOURCE, STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE.
00:00:34EVERY DAY ON THE C-SPAN NETWORKS.
00:00:36>> DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE
00:00:39HEGSETH SPEAKS ON MILITARY CAPABILITIES AND TROOP
00:00:43ENGAGEMENT AT U.S. COMMAND IN NEBRASKA.
00:00:51HE DISCUSSES MILITARY READINESS
00:00:52AND FUNDING FOR THE PENTAGON. REPUBLICAN SENATORS PETE
00:00:56RICKETTS AND DEB FISCHER ALSO SPOKE AT THE EVENT.
00:01:01[APPLAUSE]
00:01:09>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TO
00:01:13KEEP US SAFE.
00:01:16THE MISSION IS ONE OF THE MOST
00:01:20CHALLENGING WE HAVE SEEN.
00:01:25WITH TWO NUCLEAR ADVERSARIES.
00:01:30THE ENVIRONMENT CONTINUES TO GET MORE CHALLENGING AND WE SEE
00:01:33THESE ADVERSARIES ARE AGGRESSIVE.
00:01:36WE HAVE A DICTATOR IN RUSSIA WHO
00:01:39HAS LAUNCHED A GROUND WAR, THE SINCE WORLD WAR II. FIRST AND WE'VE GOT A DICTATOR IN COMMUNIST CHINA.
00:01:42THAT IS AGGRESSIVELY EXPANDING THEIR NUCLEAR FORCES AS PART OF
00:01:46THE LARGEST BUILDUP OF MILITARY MIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF THE
00:01:50WORLD.
00:01:58WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES. BUT I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD RIGHT HERE TO DETER OUR
00:02:02ADVERSARIES.
00:02:05I WANT TO THANK SECRETARY HEGSETH AND PRESIDENT TRUMP
00:02:10BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEEN WE NEED TO INVEST.
00:02:11TO BE ABLE TO DETER ADVERSARIES.
00:02:14AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE US SENATE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE
00:02:18HAVE SENATOR FISHER WHO IS BOTH
00:02:19ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE
00:02:22AND ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. LAST YEAR IN OUR RECONCILIATION
00:02:25BILL WE WERE ABLE TO INVEST AN
00:02:28ADDITIONAL $150 BILLION. TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
00:02:32UPGRADE OUR CAPABILITIES.
00:02:36TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT $168
00:02:38MILLION TOWARDS SEO. CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE
00:02:41SENTINEL PROJECT AND ON THE
00:02:45B-21S ON NC-3. ALL THESE KEY CRITICAL PROJECTS
00:02:48ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO DETERRING OUR ADVERSARIES IN THE
00:02:51FUTURE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE
00:02:54THE SUPPORT OF AN ADMINISTRATION
00:02:56TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
00:02:59I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
00:03:04THE SECRETARY KNOWS THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS AS WELL.
00:03:08YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND A
00:03:12COMMUNITY THAT DOES MORE FOR A
00:03:14BASE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IN
00:03:17NEBRASKA BETWEEN BELLEVUE AND OMAHA AND ALL THE DIFFERENT
00:03:20THINGS WE DO TO SUPPORT ALL THE WOMEN AND MEN IN UNIFORM HERE ON
00:03:23THE BASE. WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR, I KNOW ONE
00:03:27OF THE THINGS THAT WAS KEY WAS
00:03:28GETTING OUR RUNWAY REPAIRED.
00:03:32PART OF THE CONDITIONS FOR THAT WAS BUILDING UP THE DIKES AROUND
00:03:36THE BASE, AND THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR LOCAL
00:03:39NRD, THE NATURAL RESOURCE DISTRICT, CITY OF BELLEVUE, THE
00:03:42CITY OF OMAHA, THE STATE OF NEBRASKA. TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE MONEY
00:03:47TOGETHER TO GET THAT DONE. AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF
00:03:50HOW WE HERE IN NEBRASKA SUPPORT
00:03:53THE MISSION HERE ON AIR FORCE
00:03:56BASE AND WHAT STRATCOM DOES. WE CONTINUE TO SEE IT IN WAYS
00:04:00THAT LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS SUPPORT ALL THE KIDS. WE LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE
00:04:04CARE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
00:04:07ALL OF THE MILITARY HERE. AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID TO
00:04:11MAKE IT EASIER ON THE SPOUSES TO COME HERE AND GET JOBS BY
00:04:14ALLOWING TEACHERS' CERTIFICATES TO BE ABLE TO COME HERE.
00:04:18SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS MISSION. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE MORE
00:04:22MISSIONS COME HERE BECAUSE WE
00:04:24BELIEVE THAT WE ARE THE BEST PLACE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
00:04:28DEFEND OUR GREAT NATION.
00:04:33AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO EACH AND
00:04:36EVERY DAY. THIS IS A 7 DAYS A WEEK, 52
00:04:40WEEKS A YEAR, 365 DAYS MISSION
00:04:42TO DETER OUR ADVERSARIES.
00:04:46FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION. YOU ALL KNOW THAT, AND YOU
00:04:49DELIVER ON THAT SUPERBLY. GOD BLESS YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS
00:04:53AMERICA. [APPLAUSE]
00:05:01>> THANK YOU SENATOR RICKETTS.
00:05:06,LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE
00:05:09WELCOME THE HONORABLE DEB FISCHER, UNITED STATES SENATOR
00:05:11FROM NEBRASKA. [APPLAUSE]
00:05:22SEN. FISCHER: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. IT IS SO WONDERFUL TO BE HERE
00:05:25WITH YOU TODAY, NOT JUST TO
00:05:26WELCOME THE SECRETARY OF WAR
00:05:30HERE TO OFFUTT AIR FORCE BASE IN STRATCOM, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO
00:05:34BE HERE WITH YOU FOR YOUR
00:05:36RE-ENLISTMENT CEREMONIES.
00:05:39IT'S A VERY SPECIAL DAY AS ONCE
00:05:41AGAIN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.
00:05:45AND YOU MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO YOUR COUNTRY AND TO THE DEFENSE
00:05:49OF OUR FREEDOMS.
00:05:54AND YOU'RE DOING SO AT A VERY, VERY CRITICAL TIME.
00:05:57WE FACE A MORE DANGEROUS AND
00:05:59COMPLEX WORLD THAN WE HAVE SEEN
00:06:01IN DECADES. OUR ADVERSARIES ARE WATCHING US
00:06:05CLOSELY. THEY ARE EXPANDING THEIR
00:06:08MILITARIES. THEY ARE MODERNIZING THEIR
00:06:11NUCLEAR FORCES, AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ANY SIGN OF
00:06:15WEAKNESS.
00:06:16WELL, THEY WON'T FIND IT HERE.
00:06:19AND THAT MAKES THE MISSION HERE
00:06:22MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER. EVERY DAY, THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO
00:06:26SERVE, THEY HELP TO DETER OUR
00:06:30ADVERSARIES, DEFEND OUR HOMELAND, AND TO KEEP AMERICA
00:06:33SAFE.
00:06:36MUCH OF THAT WORK HAPPENS
00:06:37QUIETLY.
00:06:42OUR FROM THE PUBLIC EYE.
00:06:46-- FAR FROM THE PUBLIC EYE. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
00:06:49AS A NEBRASKAN, I COULD NOT BE PROUDER THAT OFFUTT CALLS OUR
00:06:53STATE HOME.
00:06:56NEBRASKANS UNDERSTAND THE
00:06:58IMPORTANCE OF THIS MISSION, AND WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO THE
00:07:02MEN AND WOMEN WHO CARRY IT OUT.
00:07:06RE-ENLISTING IS NOT SIMPLY A
00:07:07CAREER DECISION.
00:07:13IT'S A DECISION TO KEEP PUTTING
00:07:16SOMETHING LARGER THAN YOURSELF
00:07:19FIRST.
00:07:21IT IS A COMMITMENT TO YOUR FELLOW SERVICE MEMBERS, TO YOUR
00:07:25FAMILY, AND TO THE AMERICAN
00:07:27PEOPLE.
00:07:31SO I THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING TO SERVE.
00:07:34I THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES
00:07:39FOR STANDING BESIDE YOU IN THE
00:07:41WORK AND THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
00:07:45AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
00:07:48YOU DO TO DEFEND OUR GREAT
00:07:50NATION. THANK YOU.
00:07:54[APPLAUSE]
00:07:59>> THANK YOU, SENATOR FISHER.
00:08:05NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TEAM STRATCOM, PLEASE GIVE A NUCLEAR
00:08:09HOT WELCOME TO SECRETARY OF WAR,
00:08:15PETE HEGSETH. [APPLAUSE]
00:08:24SEC. HEGSETH: HOW ARE YOU DOING?
00:08:30WOW.
00:08:41NOW THIS MIGHT BE THE BEST SCENE
00:08:43IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW, NO DOUBT.
00:08:46IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH ALL OF YOU, AN INCREDIBLE GROUP
00:08:49OF GREAT AMERICANS, AND I WANT TO START BY THANKING THE ADMIRAL.
00:08:52WE HAD A CHANCE TO GO DOWN INTO
00:08:54THE BOWELS AND INTO THE BASEMENT DEEP BENEATH.
00:08:58IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE IT WOULD
00:08:59IN THE MOVIES.
00:09:05AND HE GAVE US, GAVE ME YET ANOTHER REMINDER OF THE
00:09:07INCREDIBLE CAPABILITIES OF THIS
00:09:09COMMAND, BOTH UNIFORM AND
00:09:12CIVILIAN ACROSS ALL SERVICES. WHAT THIS PLACE DOES, NO OTHER
00:09:16COMMAND AND NO OTHER COUNTRY CAN DO. FULL STOP.
00:09:19AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, ADMIRAL. UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, THE
00:09:22MODERNIZATION, THE ACCELERATION, EVERY ASPECT OF WHAT WE DO HAS BEEN ON HYPERSPEED, AND THAT'S
00:09:26WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND YOU'VE DELIVERED. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ADMIRAL.
00:09:29APPRECIATE IT. [APPLAUSE]
00:09:40AND SENATORS RICKETTS AND FISHER, GOD BLESS YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
00:09:44THANKS FOR INVITING ME ALL THE
00:09:48WAY BACK IN CONFIRMATION AND
00:09:51MORE RECENTLY IN SHANGRI-LA AND REMINDING US OF HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO COME OUT HERE AND SEE IT AND FEEL IT AND TOUCH IT RIGHT HERE ON THE GROUND.
00:09:55AND YOU HAVE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE TWO BETTER ADVOCATES FOR UNITED
00:09:58STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND THAN
00:10:00THE TWO SENATORS HERE IN NEBRASKA WHO, YOU KNOW, LIVE,
00:10:04BREATHE, AND EAT ALL THINGS NC3,
00:10:08AND NUCLEAR TRIAD AND UNDERSTANDING THE INCREDIBLE IMPORTANCE OF DETERRENCE AND
00:10:12THAT IT LIVES HERE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING INCREDIBLE ADVOCATES FOR THE BUDGET REQUIRED HERE AS
00:10:17WELL.
00:10:20WE ARE GOING TO DELIVER ON $1.5 TRILLION. WE ARE GOING TO DELIVER ON A RECONCILIATION BILL, A
00:10:23SUPPLEMENTAL BILL. BASELINE BILL, ADD IT ALL UP. I DON'T CARE HOW WE DO IT.
00:10:27WE'RE GOING TO GET TO $1.5 TRILLION AND A GENERATIONAL INVESTMENT.
00:10:30THE PRESIDENT'S COMMITTED TO IT. YOUR TWO SENATORS ARE COMMITTED
00:10:33TO IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS OR
00:10:36IN THE LAME DUCK THAT WE DELIVER ON THAT. SO TWO GREAT SENATORS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
00:10:49MOST AMERICANS PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UNITED STATES
00:10:52STRATEGIC COMMAND DOES.
00:10:54IT'S GOT A HIGHFALUTIN FANCY
00:10:57TITLE THAT'S SUFFICIENTLY AMBIGUOUS.
00:11:00UNITED STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND, WHAT IS IT?
00:11:03WHAT IS IT? IT'S THE FOUNDATION. IT'S THE ABSOLUTE FOUNDATION OF
00:11:06OUR DETERRENCE. I TALK A LOT ABOUT REVIVING THE
00:11:08WARRIOR ETHOS AND REBUILDING THE MILITARY AND REESTABLISHING DETERRENCE.
00:11:12DETERRENCE NEVER LEFT THIS PLACE, NEVER HAS.
00:11:15AND THAT'S A 24/7 365 RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE MEN AND
00:11:19WOMEN IN THIS THIS LOCATION LIVE
00:11:22EVERY SINGLE DAY.
00:11:24IT IS THE ABSOLUTE BEDROCK, WHICH IS WHY THE INVESTMENTS
00:11:27THAT WE'RE MAKING AT THE
00:11:28DEPARTMENT START RIGHT HERE.
00:11:31THEY HAVE TO, AND IT'S SOMETHING
00:11:37THESE SENATORS INGRAINED IN ME FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, ALL ASPECTS OF NC3, THE NUCLEAR TRIAD, AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN COLUMBIA, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN
00:11:41B-21, WHAT YOU SEE IN SENTINEL,
00:11:42WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN NC3, WHAT YOU
00:11:46SEE IN THE NEW E4B, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
00:11:48PUSH AND ACCELERATE ARE A REFLECTION THAT WE WILL LEAVE
00:11:52THIS PLACE BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT.
00:11:56THAT'S CERTAINLY MY RESPONSIBILITY. MY JOB IS TO SERVE ALL OF YOU.
00:11:59WE SERVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU SERVE FOR YOUR FAMILIES. YOU SERVE BECAUSE YOU LOVE THIS
00:12:02COUNTRY. AND A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE
00:12:05DO HERE, YES, WE'LL SEE IN 2026, AND 2027 AND 2028, BUT A LOT OF
00:12:09THEM WE WON'T SEE UNTIL 2034 OR
00:12:102038.
00:12:14AND AN EXAMPLE I USE ALL THE TIME ARE THESE BEAUTIFUL B-2S WHICH THANKFULLY A LOT OF FOLKS
00:12:18IN WASHINGTON DC GOT TO SEE YESTERDAY AT THAT GREAT INDYCAR
00:12:21RACE AND THOSE FLYOVERS, BUT
00:12:24THAT THOSE B-2S THAT WERE, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, USED AT MIDNIGHT
00:12:27HAMMER. THAT'S NOT AN ASSET THAT WE
00:12:30PROCURED.
00:12:33IT WAS PREVIOUS CONGRESSES,
00:12:36PREVIOUS SECRETARIES, PREVIOUS MILITARY LEADERS WHO SAID WE
00:12:39NEED A STRATEGIC BOMBING CAPABILITY THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT,
00:12:42AND THEY WERE WILLING TO INVEST IN IT AND FUND IT AND RESOURCE
00:12:45IT TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE PRESIDENTS AND FUTURE SECRETARIES HAD A STRATEGIC
00:12:49ASSET LIKE THAT.
00:12:53AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW AND WHEN IT WOULD BE USED, AND IT WAS USED POWERFULLY AND EXQUISITELY IN THAT PARTICULAR
00:12:57EXAMPLE AS IT'S USED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
00:13:00THE SAME THING GOES FOR THE ASSETS THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN RIGHT HERE.
00:13:03I WON'T BE THE SECRETARY. THERE'LL BE FUTURE SECRETARIES AND FUTURE PRESIDENTS THAT
00:13:07EMPLOY THEM, BUT MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE THAT MY KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AND YOUR
00:13:12KIDS AND GRANDKIDS SLEEP SAFELY
00:13:15UNDER THE NET OF FREEDOM PROVIDED BY A FUTURE UNITED
00:13:18STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND. WITH THE BEST ASSETS, THE MOST
00:13:21CAPABLE, AND THE MOST MODERN TO
00:13:23ENSURE A 100% CREDIBLE THREAT OF
00:13:27NUCLEAR DETERRENCE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPECT THAT A
00:13:30PRESIDENT NEEDS TO HAVE AT HIS
00:13:32OR HER FINGERTIPS AND THAT
00:13:34ULTIMATELY OUR ADVERSARIES HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WORKS.
00:13:38AND THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO IN STRATEGIC
00:13:41COMMAND, YOU SEE, THE SENATOR DID A NICE JOB LAYING OUT THE
00:13:44THREATS IN THE WORLD TODAY, AND YOU KNOW THEM AND I KNOW THEM. THEY'RE THEY'RE COUNTRIES
00:13:47BUILDING EXQUISITE CAPABILITIES
00:13:51ONLY SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO DEFEAT AND TARGET US.
00:13:55THAT'S, THAT'S IT. THERE'S, THERE'S NO OTHER
00:13:57RATIONALE AND REASON FOR THAT
00:14:03BUILDUP. BUT THEY KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT IF WE HAVE TO EMPLOY THE CAPABILITIES OF THIS PARTICULAR
00:14:06COMMAND, WE CAN AT THE
00:14:07PRESIDENT'S DIRECTION AT ANY TIME.
00:14:11AND THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE BEDROCK THAT KEEPS US, OUR PEOPLE, OUR
00:14:14NATION FREE. FULL STOP. YOU WANT TO TALK DETERRENCE.
00:14:18IT'S THAT DETERRENT RIGHT THERE, IT LIMITS THE ABILITIES OF ADVERSARIES, LIMITS THE
00:14:21AMBITIONS OF ADVERSARIES,
00:14:25MAXIMIZES THE DECISION SPACE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THIS PRESIDENT DOES A NICE JOB OF USING THAT
00:14:28LATITUDE AND THAT DETERRENCE IN ORDER TO ADVANCE AMERICAN
00:14:31INTERESTS. SPEAKING OF THAT, I MEAN, IT'S
00:14:34PRETTY SIMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP ASKED ME TO
00:14:38DO. IT'S PUT AMERICA FIRST,
00:14:41AMERICANS, AMERICAN CITIZENS,
00:14:44OUR TERRAIN, OUR PEOPLE FIRST. IT'S PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH.
00:14:47THIS PLACE IS THE BEDROCK, BEDROCK OF PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH.
00:14:51AND THEN IT'S SUPPLY COMMON
00:14:52SENSE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF
00:14:56OUR FORMATIONS, AND THAT GETS TO REVIVING THE WARRIOR ETHOS AS I
00:14:59WORK MY WAY BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT HERE, REVIVING THE WAR.
00:15:02ETHOS IS PUTTING COMMANDERS BACK
00:15:03IN CHARGE TO ENSURE THAT
00:15:06STANDARDS CAN BE ENFORCED AND CLEARLY AND EQUALLY ACROSS OUR
00:15:10FORMATIONS. NO MORE DISTRACTION OF SOCIAL
00:15:14ENGINEERING AND DEI AND SOCIAL JUSTICE STUFF THAT'S GOOD FOR
00:15:17ACADEMIA AND COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
00:15:20INSIDE OUR FORMATIONS WE DO MERIT-BASED, COLOR BLIND, GENDER
00:15:24NEUTRAL, FULL STOP. THAT'S IT. AND WE DON'T WANT COMMANDERS
00:15:28WALKING ON EGGSHELLS WHEN THEY ENFORCE THE BASICS LIKE
00:15:32ACCOUNTABILITY, LIKE STANDARDS, LIKE READINESS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, A PLACE WHERE
00:15:36MERITOCRACY HAS TO REIGN NO MATTER WHAT, WHERE YOU HAVE TO
00:15:39BE READY AT ALL TIMES, NO MATTER
00:15:41WHAT. IT'S THE UNITED STATES STRATEGIC
00:15:44COMMAND. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
00:15:47WE JUST NEED FOLKS THAT ARE VERY GOOD AT THEIR JOB AND ABLE TO
00:15:50CONDUCT THAT WITHOUT WITH
00:15:53MINIMAL DISTRACTION.
00:15:57UP AND DOWN THE ECHELON. THAT'S THIS PLACE RIGHT HERE.
00:16:01AND THEN MY JOB AS WE RESTORE THE WARRIOR ETHOS IS TO HELP REBUILD THE MILITARY.
00:16:04AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO COME BACK TO WHAT THE SENATORS ARE FOCUSED ON, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.
00:16:07MY MAIN EFFORT RIGHT NOW IS ENSURING THAT WE GET THE RESOURCES TO YOU TO ENSURE THAT
00:16:11THESE MODERNIZATIONS HAPPEN, NOT EVENTUALLY, BUT THAT EVERY
00:16:15DEADLINE IS MOVED TO THE LEFT
00:16:19AND WITH THIS PRESIDENT, TRUST ME, I HEAR IT ACROSS THE RESOLUTE DESK EVERY DAY.
00:16:22PETE, FASTER.
00:16:28FOUR. -- MORE.
00:16:31DON'T BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE STATUS QUO OF SOME DEADLINE THAT'S BEEN SET FOR YOU BECAUSE THE BUREAUCRACY SET THAT DEADLINE.
00:16:35MOVE AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS.
00:16:38AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT ASKING
00:16:42HER -- FOR TO DO THINGS THE WAY $1.5 TRILLION WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THEM.
00:16:46WE'RE ASKING 1.5 TRILLION TO MAKE A GENERATIONAL INVESTMENT TO OPERATE AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS WHY THE NEXT STOP WE'RE TAKING TODAY,
00:16:50ACTUALLY WE'RE FLYING OVER TO WISCONSIN TO TALK TO A DEFENSE MANUFACTURER TO RESTART OUR
00:16:53ARSENAL OF FREEDOM TOUR. WHICH IS A TOUR ACROSS THE
00:16:57COUNTRY OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR TO BUSINESSES LARGE AND SMALL IN OUR DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL
00:17:00BASE THAT WILL BUILD THE THINGS THAT YOU WILL BE IN YOUR HANDS
00:17:04TO ENSURE DETERRENCE, BUT FOR
00:17:06TOO LONG WE OUTSOURCED THOSE CAPABILITIES OR WE DIDN'T INVEST
00:17:09IN OUR DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL BASE AND WE ALLOWED OUR DEFENSE
00:17:13COMPANIES TO EFFECTIVELY BECOME
00:17:16APPENDAGES OF GOVERNMENT. SO MANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU
00:17:20RELY ON THAT ARE INCREDIBLE EXQUISITE CAPABILITIES WERE
00:17:22BUILT BY JUST A SMALL HANDFUL OF COMPANIES, GREAT COMPANIES, MANY
00:17:25OF WHICH WE STILL RELY ON, WE'RE
00:17:27INVESTING IN RIGHT NOW, AND, AND THEY'RE FANTASTIC.
00:17:31WE NEED THEM, BUT THEY STARTED TO LOOK A LOT MORE LIKE THE DEPARTMENT THAN LIKE BUSINESS, AND OUR DEPARTMENT CAN BE A
00:17:35BUREAUCRATIC MAZE.
00:17:38AND IN ORDER TO NAVIGATE A BUREAUCRATIC MAZE, YOU BUILD YOUR OWN BUREAUCRACY TO NAVIGATE
00:17:43THAT MAZE, AND BUREAUCRACIES ARE NOT BUILT TO MOVE QUICKLY.
00:17:47WELL, IN THE MODERN 21ST CENTURY BATTLEFIELD, EVERYTHING HAS TO
00:17:49ITERATE AND MOVE QUICKLY. IT'S ALL ABOUT AUTONOMY AND AI
00:17:53AND TECH AND CYBER, THE ABILITY
00:17:56TO MOVE INFORMATION, MOVE PEOPLE, MOVE THINGS, EXECUTE AND
00:17:59ITERATE QUICKLY. BUREAUCRACIES ARE NOT BUILT THAT
00:18:03WAY. AND SO WE NEED TO BUILD AND OPERATE AT THE SPEED OF
00:18:07BUSINESS, AND OUR ARSENAL OF FREEDOM NEEDS TO EXPAND.
00:18:10IT CAN'T JUST BE 5 PRIME
00:18:12CONTRACT DEFENSE CONTRACTORS. IT'S GOT TO BE 10. IT'S GOT TO BE 15. IT'S GOT TO BE 20.
00:18:16IT'S GOT TO BE 25. WE'VE GOT TO OPEN THE
00:18:18BUREAUCRACY SO THAT MORE COMPANIES, GREAT AMERICAN
00:18:21COMPANIES, CAN COMPETE. THEY BUILD IT HERE.
00:18:24THEY EMPLOY AMERICANS HERE. THEY MANUFACTURE HERE AT SCALE
00:18:27AND AT SPEED. THAT'LL TAKE INVESTMENT FROM US, BUT IT TAKES A DIFFERENT KIND OF
00:18:31INVESTMENT. AND I WISH OUR DEPUTY SECRETARY
00:18:34OF WAR WAS HERE.
00:18:35HE CHAINS HIMSELF TO HIS DESK BECAUSE HE'S SO DEDICATED TO
00:18:39ENSURING THAT WE FIX THE BUREAUCRACY, BUT I WISH HE COULD
00:18:42COME OUT AND SEE ALL OF YOU MORE REGULARLY TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE
00:18:44THE PEOPLE THAT HE'S HELPING.
00:18:49HE'S BEEN A BUSINESSMAN FOR, I DON'T KNOW.
00:18:52MULTIBILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMAN WHOSE WHOSE ENTIRE CAREER HAS
00:18:55BEEN IN TURNAROUNDS, TURNING AROUND FAILED BUSINESSES.
00:18:59HE'S EFFECTIVELY TURNING UPSIDE DOWN THE WAY OUR DEPARTMENT OPERATES TO ENSURE THAT SMALLER COMPANIES CAN COMPETE AND LARGER
00:19:04COMPANIES LOOK MORE LIKE BUSINESSES AGAIN. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS
00:19:07DEMANDING COMPANIES INVEST IN
00:19:10ADDITIONAL ASSEMBLY PLANTS AND
00:19:12ASSEMBLIES OF THEIR OWN.
00:19:15YOU SEE, FOR A LONG TIME OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD FUND NOT JUST A
00:19:18COMPANY'S WEAPONS SYSTEMS WERE BUYING MORE WEAPONS, BUT IF THEY
00:19:22WERE TO INVEST IN A NEW PLANT, WE HAD TO BUILD IT FOR THEM.
00:19:26AND PRESIDENT TRUMP, A BUSINESSMAN, SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
00:19:29HOW ABOUT INSTEAD WE GIVE YOU LONG LEAD TIME ORDERS, MEANING
00:19:32WE'RE GOING TO BUY YOUR STUFF
00:19:36FOR 5, 6, 7, 8 YEARS. WE KNOW WE ARE BECAUSE IT'S A
00:19:40GREAT CAPABILITY, BUT IN RETURN WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO BUILD A NEW PLANT OR A NEW FACTORY IN
00:19:44AMERICA. FOR AMERICAN JOBS AND WHAT
00:19:48HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING, IT'S A BASIC PRINCIPLE OF ECONOMICS.
00:19:51IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING YOURSELF, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO WANT TO
00:19:54TAKE CARE OF IT AND MAKE SURE YOU MAKE MONEY WITH THAT INVESTMENT WITH THE THING THAT YOU BUILD.
00:19:58AND SO AS A RESULT, AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ARE SAVING MONEY BECAUSE THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES
00:20:02ARE INVESTING IN NEW PLANTS AND NEW MANUFACTURING CAPABILITY.
00:20:05THE TAXPAYER ALSO WINS WHEN YOU GET A 7 YEAR ORDER ON A FIXED
00:20:08PRICE.
00:20:11AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS AUDIENCE, WHO WINS THE
00:20:13WARFIGHTER. WHO GETS THE CAPABILITIES THAT
00:20:17YOU DESERVE FASTER THAN YOU'VE EVER GOTTEN THEM BEFORE AND WITH
00:20:21THE MAGAZINE DEPTH THAT YOU NEED
00:20:23FOR A MODERN BATTLEFIELD. AN ARSENAL OF FREEDOM REQUIRES
00:20:26NOT JUST A FEW MORE MISSILES OR A FEW MORE SATELLITES OR A FEW
00:20:28MORE CAPABILITIES.
00:20:33IT REQUIRES 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X OF
00:20:35THE THINGS THAT YOU, OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DO AND THE THINGS THAT YOU BUILD, AND THEN
00:20:39OF COURSE THE ABILITY. TO BUILD REALLY SOPHISTICATED
00:20:41EXQUISITE SYSTEMS LIKE THE B-21
00:20:45OR THE COLUMBIACLASS THAT ONLY AMERICA CAN BUILD, AND THEY TAKE
00:20:47A LONG TIME TO BUILD AND ONLY A
00:20:50CERTAIN FEW NUMBER OF COMPANIES CAN BUILD THEM, WE INVEST IN THOSE THINGS TOO, SO IT'S
00:20:55HIGH-END AND LOW END MIX.
00:20:58IT'S COMMERCIAL USING COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS AND NOT JUST
00:21:01DEFENSE APPLICATIONS THAT THE COMPANY WE'RE GOING TO TODAY DOES 90% COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND
00:21:0510%.
00:21:09DEFENSE. THAT'S GREAT. WE WANT MORE OF OUR BIG DOMESTIC MANUFACTURERS INVOLVED IN
00:21:12DEFENSE. SO WE'VE, WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED
00:21:14THAT THE DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL BASE
00:21:17IS ONE OF THE CORE PILLARS OF HOW WE ENSURE THAT AMERICA STAYS
00:21:20FREE SO THAT THE THINGS THAT YOU DETER WITH ARE BOTH MODERN AND
00:21:24WE HAVE SUFFICIENT AMOUNTS TO DO IT.
00:21:27I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST CLOSE
00:21:28BY SAYING, AND I MEAN THIS, I
00:21:34GET A CHANCE TO TRAVEL THE GLOBE.
00:21:35I GET A CHANCE TO LOOK OUT AT
00:21:40AUDIENCES, AND WE HAVE A
00:21:42SECURITY DETAIL THAT IS WITH US, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME, AND, AND
00:21:46WE'LL GET READY FOR CHURCH OR WE'LL, WE'LL BE GOING SOMEWHERE
00:21:48AND THEY'RE WAITING OUTSIDE, AND I ALWAYS, I'LL YELL AT THE KIDS
00:21:52AND SAY, KIDS, THE GREAT AMERICANS ARE WAITING OUTSIDE.
00:21:55KIDS, DON'T MAKE THE GREAT AMERICANS WAIT.
00:21:58AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE SORT OF TAKEN AS A PHRASE WHEN I LOOK
00:22:01OUT.
00:22:04AT ALL OF YOU. JUST GREAT AMERICANS.
00:22:07JUST GREAT AMERICANS DOING INCREDIBLE THINGS SELFLESSLY,
00:22:11STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF 250
00:22:13YEARS OF OTHER GREAT AMERICANS
00:22:15WHO PUT THEIR COUNTRY FIRST, WHO
00:22:17REALIZED THAT THE FREEDOMS THAT WE LOVE AND THAT WE CHERISH,
00:22:21THEY DON'T DEFEND THEMSELVES. SOMEBODY'S GOT TO CARRY A RIFLE,
00:22:25PUT ON A UNIFORM, AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. DEPLOY AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY,
00:22:29PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE UP TO
00:22:31AND INCLUDING THE COST OF THEIR
00:22:33OWN LIFE IN ORDER TO DEFEND THOSE FREEDOMS. YOU DO THAT AT THE HIGHEST, MOST
00:22:38STRATEGIC LEVEL, PUTTING
00:22:40YOURSELF BETWEEN GEOPOLITICAL ADVERSARIES AND THEIR
00:22:43CALCULATIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY WILL OR WILL NOT DO, WHETHER
00:22:46TODAY IS THE DAY OR NOT THE DAY. YOU'VE RAISED YOUR RIGHT HAND TO
00:22:50DO THE SAME THING, WHETHER
00:22:55YOU ARE IN UNIFORM OR A CIVILIAN. BOTH, LOCKED TOGETHER. THAT'S THE OTHER REASON I'M
00:22:58DOING THE ARSENAL OF FREEDOM TOUR IS THAT I WANT THE HARD HATS TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN IT WITH US. IF YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING AND
00:23:02YOU'RE BUILDING IT FASTER AND YOU'RE BUILDING MORE OF IT SO THAT ALL OF YOU CAN USE IT,
00:23:05YOU'RE IN THE FIGHT TOO. YOU'RE A PART OF THE ARSENAL OF
00:23:08FREEDOM. SO TO THIS AUDIENCE OF GREAT
00:23:11AMERICANS, I SIMPLY JUST WANT TO
00:23:13SAY THANK YOU.
00:23:16I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU, ASK YOU
00:23:19TO KEEP GOING AS FAST AND AS HARD AS YOU CAN, AND PLEASE KNOW
00:23:22THAT WE HAVE YOUR BACK, AND THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP TELLS TELLS ME
00:23:26THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. PETE, GO OUT AND DO WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO.
00:23:30WE'VE GOT YOUR BACK. AND SO TO YOU I SAY WE UNTIE
00:23:33YOUR HANDS, WE GIVE YOU MAXIMUM AUTHORITY, AND THE ADMIRAL
00:23:36CERTAINLY KNOWS THAT. WHAT AUTHORITIES DO YOU NEED?
00:23:40WHAT KIND OF LEGISLATION DO YOU NEED?
00:23:42WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE RUNWAY YOU CAN TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS
00:23:45POSSIBLE AT EVERY ECHELON OF WHAT YOU DO, RUNNING AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS WITH FULL
00:23:50HEARTS FOR THE LOVE OF THIS
00:23:51COUNTRY.
00:23:56SO PLEASE PASS TO YOUR FAMILIES ALSO MY GRATITUDE, THE GRATITUDE OF EVERYONE AT THE PENTAGON THAT
00:24:00WE KNOW YOU SERVE FOR THEM, BUT WE SERVE FOR YOU AND WE SERVE
00:24:02FOR THEM ALSO.
00:24:11AND OUR JOB IS TO HAVE YOUR BACK IN EVERY WAY IN THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT YOU DO. YOU ARE THE FOUNDATION OF
00:24:15AMERICAN DETERRENCE. WE KNOW IT. I READ THE REPORTS EVERY, EVERY WEEK THAT GET SENT TO ME OF THE
00:24:18WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. THERE'S A CLOSE EYE ON THE
00:24:22INCREDIBLE MODERNIZATION GOING ON HERE, AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE ABOUT KEEPING THE
00:24:2621ST CENTURY A FREE CENTURY. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
00:24:31THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]
00:24:54>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TODAY
00:24:56SECRETARY HEGSETH WILL RE-ENLIST
00:24:58THREE OF OUR US STRATCOM MEMBERS
00:25:00-- SERGEANT KEVIN CRESPO MOLAVE, MASTER SERGEANT ANDREW CALL, AND
00:25:04TECH SERGEANT ANTHONY MOORE. PLEASE JOIN SECRETARY HEGSETH ON
00:25:07STAGE.
00:25:13>> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND
00:25:18REPEAT AFTER ME. I STATE YOUR FULL NAME.
00:25:21,DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND
00:25:24THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
00:25:27>> SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE
00:25:32CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
00:25:33>> AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN
00:25:38AND DOMESTIC AND THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE
00:25:42TO THE SAME, THAT I WILL OBEY THE ORDERS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE ORDERS
00:25:46OF THE OFFICERS AND THE ORDERS
00:25:51-- APPOINTED OVER ME. ACCORDING TO REGULATIONS AND THE
00:25:54UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE.
00:25:58SO HELP ME GOD.
00:26:00CONGRATULATIONS.
00:26:02>> I APPRECIATE IT. [APPLAUSE]
00:26:11THANK YOU.
00:26:12>> ENLISTEES, HOLD, HOLD.
00:26:15HOLD.
00:26:19>> PICTURE.
00:26:21>> COME ON IN. >> CONGRATULATIONS.
00:26:25>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
00:26:27>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:26:32>> I'M, 2, 3.
00:26:38-- 1, 2, THREE. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
00:26:51>> SECRETARY HEGSETH WILL NOW RECOGNIZE 5 TOP PERFORMERS WITHIN US STRATCOM.
00:26:55PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE UNTIL
00:26:57WE HAVE FINISHED COINING.
00:27:06CAPTAIN TAYLOR MATERRAZZO SERVES IN THE PLANS AND POLICY DIRECTORATE, WHERE SHE
00:27:09BRILLIANTLY LED THE TEMPO OF THE 2026 US STRATCOM DETERRENCE
00:27:12SYMPOSIUM.
00:27:16STAFF SERGEANT ALEC RICHARDSON IS A STRATEGIC WARNING CONTROLLER IN THE GLOBAL OPERATIONS CENTER WHERE HE
00:27:20RELAYED VITAL INFORMATION DURING
00:27:22590 REAL-WORLD MISSILE EVENTS.
00:27:27SERGEANT MALIK HARRIS SERVES AS AN ADMINISTRATOR AND SITE
00:27:30SECURITY MANAGER WHO REVIVED A
00:27:32CRITICAL TEAM AFTER AN 18 MONTH VACANCY TO ACHIEVE 100% COMMAND
00:27:35COMPLIANCE.
00:27:40PETTY OFFICER SECOND CLASS CAITLIN BRADBURY LED A 10-PERSON
00:27:44TEAM MIGRATING U.S. STRATCOM'S TASK SYSTEM, OPTIMIZING
00:27:49WORKFLOWS FOR 1200 USERS AND MODERNIZING DECISIONS SPACE
00:27:52OPERATIONS.
00:27:55STAFF SERGEANT JOSHUA STELLI IS
00:27:57AN ADMINISTRATION SPECIALIST IN THE INTELLIGENCE DIRECTORATE WHO DEPLOYED A PERSONNEL TRACKING
00:28:01SYSTEM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 27
00:28:01MANPOWER BOARD.
00:28:06LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GIVE
00:28:12CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR FIVE SUPERIOR PERFORMERS AND THANK
00:28:17YOU, SECRETARY HEGSETH. [APPLAUSE]
00:28:19>> CONGRATULATIONS. A PICTURE. LET'S DO A PICTURE.
00:28:23COME ON OVER.
00:28:30>> WE'RE BACK. [LAUGHTER]
00:28:34>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
00:28:36WORK YOU DO. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO.
00:28:39>> GREAT JOB.
00:28:44>> ONE, 2, 3.
00:28:50ONE, 2, 3. >> AWESOME.
00:28:54THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
00:29:02AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BIG OLD PICTURE, I THINK FROM
00:29:03RIGHT THERE. HOW YOU DOING?
00:29:06GOOD TO SEE YOU.
00:29:23>> THIS WEEK ON C-SPAN TWO, WE
00:29:29ARE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK RADIO SIMULCASTS FEATURING VOICES FROM
00:29:32ACROSS AMERICAN POLITICS. AT 9:00 A.M. EASTERN, MICHAEL
00:29:36SMIRK ANISH CHALLENGES BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
00:29:44PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN POST THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM WITH HIS TAKE ON THE
00:29:46DAYS BIGGEST PUT ON
00:30:03C-SPAN2, C-SPAN NOW, THE FREE MOBILE VIDEO APP, OR ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG.
00:30:05>> C-SPAN IS THAT UNBIASED AS
00:30:10YOU CAN GET. >> YOU ARE SO FAIR.
00:30:13I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO CAN SAY OTHERWISE.
00:30:15>> YOU GUYS DO THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK FOR EVERYONE IN
00:30:19THIS COUNTRY. >> I LOVE C-SPAN BECAUSE I GET TO HEAR ALL THE VOICES.
00:30:22>> YOU BRING THESE DIVERGENT
00:30:24VIEWPOINTS AND YOU RESENT BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE, AND ALLOW
00:30:28PEOPLE TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS. >> I ABSOLUTELY LOVE C-SPAN.
00:30:32I LOVE TO HEAR BOTH SIDES.
00:30:38>> I WASH C-SPAN EVERY MORNING AND IT IS UNBIASED, AND YOU BRING IN FACTUAL INFORMATION FOR THE CALLERS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE
00:30:42THEY ARE. >> IT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY PLACE
00:30:46WE COULD HEAR HONEST OPINIONS OF AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
00:30:55>> YOU GUYS AT C-SPAN ARE DOING SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB OF ALLOWING FREE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS WITHOUT A LOT OF INTERRUPTIONS.
00:30:57>> THANK YOU C-SPAN FOR BEING A LIGHT IN THE DARK.
00:31:01>> FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE AND
00:31:04FIRST LADY HILLARY CLINTON
00:31:08HIGHLIGHTED DIPLOMACY, NATIONAL SECURITY AND AMERICA'S ROLE IN THE WORLD DURING A CONVERSATION
00:31:13HOSTED BY THE HAMPTONS INSTITUTE IN NEW YORK. THE CONVERSATION RUNS ABOUT AN
00:31:17HOUR AND FIVE MINUTES. [APPLAUSE]
00:31:28>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
00:31:31THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE KIND
00:31:35INTRODUCTION. GREAT TO BE AT GUILDHALL AND I
00:31:39WANT TO THANK THE COMMON GOOD FOR DOING THIS.
00:31:44IT'S THAT TERRIFIC PROGRAM.
00:31:45I AM PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, WHICH IS AN
00:31:50INDEPENDENT, NONPARTISAN THINK
00:31:52TANK, PUBLISHER, EDUCATION INSTITUTION AND MEMBERSHIP
00:31:56ORGANIZATION. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH
00:31:59MY FORMER COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND, HILLARY CLINTON.
00:32:06CLICK START, MADAM SECRETARY, THE NETFLIX SERIES. [LAUGHTER]
00:32:11HAVE YOU WATCHED IT, HOW
00:32:12REALISTIC IS IT ENDED -- AND DID
00:32:16TEA LEONI DO A GOOD JOB WITH THE
00:32:27IMPRESSION OF YOU? SEC. CLINTON: YES. YES.
00:32:31LET ME THINK THE GUILDHALL AND EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT. I KNOW YOU'VE HAD TERRIFIC
00:32:37SERIES TO COMMEMORATE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DECLARATION
00:32:41OF INDEPENDENCE AND I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE WITH MIKE,
00:32:44WHO IT DID GET TO SERVED WITH IN MY PRAYER LIVES.
00:32:51TO GET TO THE IMPORTANT ISSUE, MADAM SECRETARY WAS REALLY GOOD.
00:32:56AND I DON'T THINK I'VE MISSED A SINGLE EPISODE.
00:33:02THERE WAS ENOUGH DRAMA THAT IT
00:33:05REFLECTED REAL LIFE ON STEROIDS,
00:33:11AND THERE WAS ENOUGH PLOT TWISTS THAT IT KEPT MY ATTENTION.
00:33:15THERE WERE A FEW TIMES WHEN I THOUGHT, I WISH I HAD DONE THAT. [LAUGHTER]
00:33:17MICHAEL: AND EVERY INTERNATIONAL
00:33:22CRISIS GOT RESOLVED IN AN HOUR. IT'S REMARKABLE. SEC. CLINTON: IN THE KITCHEN.
00:33:25MICHAEL: LET'S START WITH THE
00:33:28SUBJECT OF THIS SERIES, 250 YEARS.
00:33:31AT 250 YEARS OLD, HOW DO YOU SEE THE ROLE OF AMERICA IN THE WORLD?
00:33:35HOW DOES IT DIFFER FROM THE WORLD YOU INHERITED IN 2009 WHEN
00:33:39YOU WERE SWORN IN A SECRETARY OF STATE AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FOUNDERS WITH THINK ABOUT THE
00:33:43CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS? THAT'S QUESTION ONE.
00:33:47[LAUGHTER]
00:33:49SEC. CLINTON: I THINK THEY WOULD BE UPHOLD.
00:33:57I THINK THEY WOULD BE WORRIED BECAUSE SO MANY OF THEM EXPRESS
00:34:00THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW BEST TO
00:34:04CONSTRUCT A GOVERNMENT THAT
00:34:05WOULD AVOID A RETURN TO A KING
00:34:09OR EVEN A DEMAGOGUE, HOW TO
00:34:16MANAGE A COUNTRY WITHOUT FALLING PREY TO THE POLITICAL FACTIONS
00:34:20AND INTERESTS THAT ARE PART OF HUMAN NATURE.
00:34:23I THINK THEY WOULD BE BEWILDERED. I THINK THEY WOULD BE APPALLED.
00:34:27I THINK GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD
00:34:28BE HEARTSICK OVER WHAT HE IS
00:34:32WITNESSING TODAY.
00:34:36THAT IS A RETROSPECTIVE VIEW
00:34:38FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND HOW I
00:34:44THINK OUR FOUNDERS WANTED TO SEE
00:34:45US FUNCTION GOING FORWARD.
00:34:48MANY OF THEM KNEW THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGES.
00:34:52A NUMBER OF THEM UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE TO CONFRONT THE SCOURGE
00:34:56OF SLAVERY, AND THAT WE WOULD
00:34:59HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE INDEPENDENT AND STRONG, BUT KEEP
00:35:03GOOD RELATIONS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
00:35:08WHEN I LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE
00:35:11RIGHT NOW, IT IS DEEPLY WORRYING
00:35:15TO ME THAT WE ARE, BY DAY AFTER
00:35:20DAY OF IMPULSIVE, POORLY THOUGHT
00:35:23OUT DECISIONS, GIVING UP SO MUCH
00:35:26OF OUR STRENGTHS.
00:35:32OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN LOOK AT AMERICAN HISTORY IN SEGMENTS BUT
00:35:36IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE POST-WORLD WAR II ERA UNTIL
00:35:40TODAY, WE HAD SO MANY ADVANTAGES
00:35:46AND WE BUILT A WORLD THAT WAS
00:35:48AIMED AT COOPERATION THROUGH
00:35:51EVERYTHING FROM TRADE AGREEMENTS
00:35:53OR ALLIANCES.
00:35:59IT WAS ALSO THE UNDERSTANDING
00:36:01THAT THE UNITED STATES WOULD
00:36:04HAVE TO PLAY A LEADERSHIP ROLE ON BEHALF OF OUR VALUES, ON BEHALF OF DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM.
00:36:09I TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
00:36:13I BELIEVED THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE
00:36:15MEANT TO DO AS A NATION AND WAS
00:36:18VERY PROUD TO SERVE IN THE SENATE, SERVE IN THE OBAMA
00:36:22CABINET IN THE STATE
00:36:31DEPARTMENT. WAS IT EASY? WAS IT ALWAYS RIGHT? DID WE MAKE EVERY DECISION WE COULD HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE KEEPING WITH OUR VALUES?
00:36:35NO, BECAUSE WE ARE A NATION OF HUMAN BEINGS, RUN BY HUMAN
00:36:39BEINGS.
00:36:40THERE WERE ALWAYS CHECKS AND
00:36:44BALANCES, THE RULE OF LAW, INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
00:36:48DEVELOPED AND STRENGTHENED OVER TIME.
00:36:52SO IT WAS FOR ME THE CONTINUING
00:36:57GREAT EXPERIMENT IN
00:36:59SELF-GOVERNMENT, AND WITH THAT
00:37:02SELF-GOVERNMENT CAME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LEADERSHIP.
00:37:06I DO NOT THINK THAT IF I WERE
00:37:07SITTING IN SOME ADVERSARIES WORK
00:37:12ROOM, 10, 20, 30, 40 YEARS FROM
00:37:22NOW -- ECHO, AND TRYING TO TAKE
00:37:28DOWN AMERICA, THAT I COULD HAVE
00:37:32FORESEEN HOW MUCH WE ARE SQUANDERING OUR LEADERSHIP,
00:37:34VALUES, AND WEAKENING US AT A
00:37:37TIME OF FAST-CHANGING TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT, THE
00:37:41RISE OF VERY DETERMINED
00:37:46ADVERSARIES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE KNOW IS GOING ON NOW.
00:37:50I WORRY A LOT ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET OURSELVES OUT OF IT.
00:37:54MICHAEL: WHETHER OR NOT ONE
00:37:58AGREES WITH HIS ANSWERS, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS RAISED A
00:38:01NUMBER OF LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS
00:38:04OR QUESTIONS WITH A NUGGET OF LEGITIMACY IN THEM THAT REQUIRES
00:38:07SOME SELF INTROSPECTION.
00:38:11WHY SHOULDN'T ALLIES PAY MORE FOR THEIR OWN DEFENSE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS?
00:38:14SHOULD WE ENGAGE WITH ANYONE, EVERYONE, INCLUDING KIM JONG-UN
00:38:19AND IF IT MEANS PERHAPS FURTHERING OUR AGENDA OF PEACE
00:38:23AND SECURITY? WHERE DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT
00:38:26TRUMP HAS GOTTEN IT RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO QUESTIONS HE HAS
00:38:30RAISED? AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN, AS WE
00:38:33LOOK BACK, FOR 80 YEARS WE DID
00:38:37THINGS MORE OR LESS THE SAME WAY .
00:38:41WAS IT THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE TIME AND THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED?
00:38:45ARE THERE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED OR ARE WE
00:38:49AT RISK OF THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER?
00:38:51SEC. CLINTON: THOSE ARE ALL REALLY FAIR AND IMPORTANT
00:38:55QUESTIONS. LET ME TRY TO TAKE THEM IN SOME SEQUENCE.
00:39:01FIRST, WE ALL WERE COMMITTED TO
00:39:05ENCOURAGING OUR ALLIES IN NATO TO RAISE THEIR DEFENSE SPENDING.
00:39:11THAT'S WHEN I USED TO MEET WITH MY COUNTERPARTS WHEN I WOULD GO TO NATO SUMMITS.
00:39:17PRESIDENT OBAMA, PRESIDENT BUSH, PRESIDENT CLINTON, EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME VIEW.
00:39:22BUT WE ALSO KNEW THIS UNDERLYING
00:39:25BARGAIN THAT WE HAD TO RECOGNIZE
00:39:28, WHICH IS THAT AS PART OF OUR
00:39:29GLOBAL LEADERSHIP, WE DID CARRY
00:39:33A LOT OF THE BURDEN ON DEFENSE AND THAT MEANT WE GOT TO CALL THE SHOTS.
00:39:40WE GOT TO DETERMINE HOW BEST TO
00:39:45PROVIDE MILITARY ASSETS,
00:39:48TRAINING, BASES IN EUROPE AND ELSEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD.
00:39:53THAT WAS PART OF THE LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE ASSUME.
00:39:57IT IS KIND OF OBVIOUS AND EVEN
00:40:01SIMPLISTIC THING TO SAY THEY SHOULD DO MORE FOR DEFENSE.
00:40:05YES, WE AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WE
00:40:07ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE TRADE-OFFS AND THE BALANCE.
00:40:12THAT'S WHERE I DON'T SEE THIS ADMINISTRATION GETTING BEYOND THE SUPERFICIAL.
00:40:16THEY CAN MAKE THE STATEMENT,
00:40:19THEY CAN MAKE THE DEMANDS, BUT
00:40:23THEY DON'T, AT LEAST IN MY READING AND TALKING WITH PEOPLE
00:40:27WHO ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN
00:40:32ANALYZING THEIR DECISION-MAKING, THEY DON'T DO THE HARD WORK ABOUT DECISIONS.
00:40:38THE MOST RECENT WITH THE ATTACK ON IRAN.
00:40:41WE RAN ALL KINDS OF SCENARIOS ABOUT IRAN.
00:40:44I STARTED THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT
00:40:46LED TO THE IRAN AGREEMENT OF THE
00:40:49NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM WHEN I
00:40:53WAS SECRETARY OF STATE, AND JOHN KERRY PICKED IT UP AND FINISHED IT.
00:40:58WE SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF
00:40:58TIME AND EFFORT GAMING OUT WHAT
00:41:02WOULD HAPPEN, UNDERSTANDING THE
00:41:07PLUSES AND MINUSES. THE FIRST THING THAT WOULD
00:41:09HAPPEN IN ANY CONVERSATION IS, WHAT IF THEY CLOSE THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ?
00:41:13THEN YOU READ THAT EITHER TRUMP DID NOT WANT TO HEAR IT, OR IT
00:41:17WAS SAID TO HIM AND HE DIDN'T HEAR IT, OR IF DID NOT UNDERSTAND IT.
00:41:21SO YOU CAN HAVE A RHETORICAL
00:41:24POINT, BUT THERE IS NO DEPTH THAT REALLY BUILDS THE TACTICS
00:41:27AND STRATEGIES FOR TRYING TO IMPLEMENT IT.
00:41:29I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO
00:41:36POINT OUT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO TALK TO PEOPLE THAT WE THINK THERE IS A LEGITIMATE REASON TO
00:41:41BELIEVE WE CAN ACTUALLY FURTHER
00:41:43OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, NATIONAL
00:41:45INTERESTS AND NATIONAL VALUES AS
00:41:49WELL AS KEEPING FAITH WITH OUR ALLIES.
00:41:51SHOULD WE TALK TO KIM JONG-UN?
00:41:56IF WE HAVE DONE THE GROUNDWORK, IF WE UNDERSTAND HOW WHAT WE ARE
00:42:00ASKING, IF WE CAN SOMEHOW LOOSEN THE GRIP RUSSIA AND CHINA HAVE
00:42:04ON HIM, USING HIM AS A TOOL
00:42:07AGAINST US, SENDING FIRST 10,000
00:42:10NORTH KOREAN TROOPS TO FIGHT IN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, AND NOW IT
00:42:13LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER 50,000.
00:42:17NORTH KOREAN TROOPS WHICH WILL MAKE THEM BATTLE HARDENED WHICH
00:42:20IS DEEPLY CONCERNING IF YOU ARE IN SOUTH KOREA OR JAPAN.
00:42:25ALL OF THESE ARE COMPLICATED
00:42:27ISSUES, AND YES, YOU WANT TO GET
00:42:30TO RELIABLE OUTCOMES, WHETHER
00:42:34THEY BE AGREEMENTS ON ANYTHING
00:42:36FROM MISSILES AND NUCLEAR PROGRAMS, TO TRADE OR HUMAN
00:42:40RIGHTS, BUT YOU NEED TO PLAN FOR
00:42:43THAT AND YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW
00:42:47SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT LEADERS THINK AND WHAT MIGHT BE THEIR
00:42:51REACTION TO ANY OVERTURES.
00:42:54IF YOU JUST GIVE IT AWAY LIKE I LOVE KIM JONG-UN AND I WANT TO
00:42:57SEE HIM AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THAT?
00:43:00YOU GET NOTHING FOR THAT. WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THAT AWAY?
00:43:02MICHAEL: A YEAR OR SO AGO, YOU CAME OUT WITH A REALLY
00:43:07INTERESTING BOOK. INSIDE THE SITUATION ROOM.
00:43:10YOU GOT ACADEMICS AND PRACTITIONERS TALKING ABOUT HOW DOES IT REALLY WORK?
00:43:14TAKE US INSIDE THE SITUATION
00:43:16ROOM, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY,
00:43:18WHAT OPTIONS WOULD YOU BE
00:43:21ARGUING FOR WITH REGARD TO THE IRAN SITUATION AND WHAT OPTIONS
00:43:25WOULD YOU BE FIGHTING LIKE HELL TO MOVE OFF THE TABLE?
00:43:30SEC. CLINTON: YOU ARE RIGHT, I
00:43:33TEACH A COURSE WITH THE DEAN OF THE SCHOOL OF
00:43:36INTERNATIONAL AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS
00:43:40, AND IT IS A COURSE THAT LOOKS
00:43:43AT CRISIS DECISION-MAKING TO
00:43:45UNDERSTAND HOW LEADERS MAKE THE DECISIONS THEY DO. WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS FACTORS
00:43:49THAT GO INTO THEIR CALCULATION?
00:43:54EVERYTHING FROM BEHAVIORAL ECONOMICS AND PSYCHOLOGY TO THE
00:43:58BIASES THAT WE ALL HAVE, TO THE
00:44:00NEWS THAT YOU GET THAT YOU
00:44:04EITHER BELIEVE OR DON'T BELIEVE, AND ALL THE FACTORS THAT AFFECT
00:44:08A DECISION-MAKERS APPROACH TO A
00:44:10CRISIS.
00:44:14IN THAT BOOK AND IN OUR CLASS,
00:44:18BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, THE FIRST THING.
00:44:23LET'S SKIP OVER ALL THE TACTICAL
00:44:24AND STRATEGIC MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE.
00:44:27BUT WE WILL BE TEACHING ABOUT THEM.
00:44:32FOR EXAMPLE, WE TEACH ABOUT INTELLIGENCE FAILURES AND
00:44:35SUCCESSES.
00:44:40IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING THAT THERE WERE INTELLIGENCE TO TARGET THE
00:44:43AYATOLLAH AND THE LEADERS OF THE
00:44:47CLERICAL, THE MILITARY AND POLITICAL BRANCHES OF THE
00:44:51IRANIAN GOVERNMENT. AMAZING THAT WE KNEW WHERE THEY WERE, WHERE THERE WERE HAVING
00:44:55DINNER, WHERE THEY WERE MEETING
00:44:59AND EATING WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
00:45:02BY AND LARGE, SUCCESSFULLY ENDED
00:45:06THEIR LIVES AND THEIR REGIME.
00:45:11HOWEVER, IT DID NOT COLLAPSE THE
00:45:13IRANIAN REGIME.
00:45:17IT DID NOT HAVE THE PROMISED
00:45:19EFFECT THAT I THINK WAS PROMISED
00:45:22TO TRUMP AND HIS MAJOR ADVISORS.
00:45:29WHY NOT? IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
00:45:32IRANIAN HISTORY AND HOW THE
00:45:41MILITARY, THE IRGC AND HOW IT
00:45:48OPERATES, THEY RUN THE COUNTRY.
00:45:49THE CLERICS ARE FIGUREHEADS.
00:45:55THEY ISSUE FONT WAS -- FATWAS,
00:46:04THEY HAVE HUGE RALLIES. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO RUNS THE
00:46:06COUNTRY IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY, IT IS THE MILITARY.
00:46:10WERE THEY EVER GOING TO QUIT JUST BECAUSE OF THE LEADERS?
00:46:13THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST KILLED
00:46:1740,000 IRANIANS MONTHS BEFORE TO STAY IN POWER. THEY ALSO FOUGHT A WAR AGAINST
00:46:22IRAQ THAT WENT ON FOR 10 YEARS, THE END OF WHICH THEY WERE
00:46:26SENDING 10 AND 11-YEAR-OLD BOYS TO THE FRONT LINES.
00:46:29THE MISCONCEPTION ON A STRATEGIC
00:46:33LEVEL HAS LED US TO WHERE WE ARE.
00:46:39I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TRUMP CAN GET OUT OF
00:46:44THIS, THE KEY TO IT IS PROBABLY
00:46:46CHINA AND INDIA.
00:46:50IF YOU LOOK AT WHO BUYS THE MOST
00:46:56OIL AND GAS FROM IRAN, IT IS CHINA AND INDIA.
00:47:00JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA AND OTHERS, BUT THE BIGGEST
00:47:03CONSUMERS, CHINA FAR AHEAD OF
00:47:07THAT, THEY HAVE BEEN BAKING ON FOSSIL FUELS FROM TANKERS, THEY
00:47:11HAVE BEEN FILLING AND EVEN I
00:47:16HEARD BUILDING MORE RESERVES, BUT THEY WILL NEED IRAN.
00:47:20IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT WOULD BE
00:47:22THE BEST PRESSURE, IF TRUMP WERE WILLING TO ACTUALLY USE DIPLOMACY INSTEAD OF BLUSTER.
00:47:26MICHAEL: WOULD YOU IMPOSE SECONDARY SANCTIONS ON CHINA?
00:47:30SEC. CLINTON: I WOULD CERTAINLY TELL THE CHINESE I WAS UNLESS
00:47:32THE CHINESE WOULD HELP TRY TO
00:47:37GET THE IRANIANS TO OPEN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND AT LEAST GO BACK TO THE STATUS QUO.
00:47:40MICHAEL: WOULD YOU BLOCKADE THE
00:47:43STRAIT OF HORMUZ TO PROVIDE --
00:47:49PREVENT THE IRANIANS FROM OIL REVENUE?
00:47:50SEC. CLINTON: THEY ARE BLOCKING
00:47:54IT NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. THEY ARE TAKING OIL OVER LAND TO
00:47:58OTHER PORTS. THE CHINESE HAVE THE HIGHEST INTEREST IN TRYING TO GET THIS
00:48:03RESOLVED, AND THAT IS WHO I WOULD BE PRESSURING MORE THAN
00:48:06ANYBODY ELSE RIGHT NOW.
00:48:07MICHAEL: LET'S GO TO RUSSIA AND
00:48:11UKRAINE. YOU FAMOUSLY PRESENT TO THE
00:48:15RUSSIANS WITH A RESET BUTTON.
00:48:18ONCE UPON A TIME, WE HAD GREAT
00:48:20HOPES WE COULD BRING RUSSIA TOWARD THE WEST AND THEY COULD OPERATE LIKE A NORMAL COUNTRY.
00:48:26CLEARLY YEARS HAVE GONE BY AND THINGS HAVE BECOME VERY DIFFERENT.
00:48:30GIVEN WHERE YOU ARE TODAY, YOU
00:48:33SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH PUTIN.
00:48:37WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO CHANGE PUTIN'S ATTITUDE TOWARD THE WORK
00:48:41SO A REAL NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT CAN BE REACHED?
00:48:43SEC. CLINTON: THE ONE THING WE ARE NOT DOING, WHICH IS TO DO
00:48:46MORE TO HELP UKRAINE, WE NEED TO
00:48:51DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE
00:48:53SOME KIND OF AIR DEFENSE.
00:48:56WE HAVE WASTED SO MUCH OF OUR
00:49:00MUNITIONS IN IRAN AND OF COURSE HAVE SENT A LOT TO ALLIES IN THE GULF.
00:49:04THEY HAVE USED IT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
00:49:07WE ARE IN A DIFFICULT POSITION,
00:49:12BECAUSE WE OURSELVES ARE NOT ADEQUATELY ABLE TO MEET
00:49:16UNFORESEEN DANGERS, OR IF CHINA
00:49:22WERE TO MOVE AGAINST TAIWAN,
00:49:24EVEN IF WE WERE SO INCLINED, AND
00:49:26IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT TRUMP WOULD DO, WE WOULD BE IN A DIFFICULT
00:49:30POSITION TO DEFEND TAIWAN.
00:49:33WE HAVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO A DEEP HOLE.
00:49:36IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE TO DO ON A FASTER TRACK WHAT TRUMP SAID HE
00:49:39WANTED TO DO, WHICH TRUMP SAID
00:49:44HE WANTED TO ALLOW IT UKRAINE TO START A LICENSE TO MANUFACTURE A
00:49:48FORM OF PATRIOT AIR DEFENSE
00:49:51SYSTEM, WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT.
00:49:52THE FASTEST WAY TO TRY TO END
00:49:55THE WAR IS FOR TRUMP TO WAIT IN
00:49:57MUCH MORE FORCEFULLY ON UKRAINE'S SIDE.
00:50:01SADLY I DON'T THINK HE WILL DO THAT.
00:50:04I THINK WHATEVER THE HOLD PUTIN HAS ON HIM, WHETHER IT'S THE
00:50:08ADMIRATION FOR DICTATORS, THAT
00:50:10HE WANTS TO BE A LEADER LIKE PUTIN, OR THE MONEY HE'S MAKING
00:50:14FROM SIDE DEALS WHICH VERY
00:50:18CLEARLY, THERE IS A PATH BACK TO
00:50:19MOSCOW WITH A NUMBER OF THESE
00:50:25BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES HE AND HIS FAMILY HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE
00:50:28OF, OR THEY HAVE SOMETHING ON
00:50:31HIM, WHICH THE RUSSIANS CALLED
00:50:32COME FROM A -- COMPROMAT, HE
00:50:43CANNOT TAKE ANY POSITION OF LASTING STRENGTH AGAINST PUTIN. UKRAINIANS ARE DOING THE BEST
00:50:47THEY CAN UNDER DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.
00:50:49WE ALL NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP.
00:50:52THE EUROPEANS HAVE BEEN VERY
00:50:56FORWARD LEANING, HELPING WITH
00:50:59WAREHOUSING MUNITIONS, BUT IT WILL BE A VERY TERRIBLE WINTER
00:51:03FOR THE UKRAINIANS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO HELP THEM.
00:51:08I WAS GLAD, ANDY BURNHAM, THE NEW PRIME MINISTER OF THE U.K.
00:51:11WAS THERE, SAYING THEY WILL HELP
00:51:16WITH MORE MEDIUM-RANGE AND LONGER-RANGE MISSILES.
00:51:18WE ALL HAVE TO DO MUCH MORE TO
00:51:22HELP UKRAINIANS. THE BEST WAY TO BRING PUTIN TO
00:51:24ANY NEGOTIATING TABLE AND GET ANY KIND OF ACCEPTABLE PEACE
00:51:28AGREEMENT IS TO DEFEND THE UKRAINIANS AND GIVE THEM
00:51:31EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO THAT FOR THEMSELVES.
00:51:34MICHAEL: I WILL ASK YOU TO START
00:51:38WRITING QUESTIONS ON THE PIECES OF PAPER THAT YOU HAVE HERE AND
00:51:41IN 20 MINUTES, I WILL START TAKING QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
00:51:45YOU CAN PASS THEM TO THE EDGE OF
00:51:46YOUR ROSE.
00:51:53LET'S GET BACK TO RUSSIA. ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT AS UKRAINE GETS MORE ADEPT AT LONG-RANGE ATTACKS INTO RUSSIA,
00:51:57TO OIL INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER TARGETS, THAT PUTIN WITH HIS BACK AGAINST THE WALL MIGHT
00:52:01ESCALATE AND USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS?
00:52:02SEC. CLINTON: NOT AT THIS
00:52:06MOMENT, I'M NOT.
00:52:13YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT PUTIN AND
00:52:18TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HIS ULTIMATE GAME IS.
00:52:21BECAUSE WHAT HE CARES ABOUT IS
00:52:23STAYING IN POWER, STAYING ALIVE
00:52:28AND PROMOTING WHAT HE CONSIDERS TO BE OF RUSSIA'S RIGHTFUL
00:52:32POSITION IN THE PANTHEON OF GREAT NATIONS.
00:52:36DO I THINK HE MIGHT GO THAT FAR?
00:52:40I THINK YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, BUT
00:52:43I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.
00:52:46I DO THINK HE KNOWS THAT IF THE
00:52:50UNITED STATES UNDER TRUMP DOES
00:52:51NOT WEIGH IN SIGNIFICANTLY, IT REMAINS A WAR OF ATTRITION.
00:52:57HE NOT ONLY DOESN'T CARE HOW MANY RUSSIANS HE SENDS TO THE
00:53:00FRONT LINES TO DIE OR BE INJURED
00:53:03, HE'S NOW GOING TO HAVE FRESH FORCES FROM NORTH KOREA.
00:53:08HE IS RECRUITING UNDER VERY FRAUDULENT CIRCUMSTANCES IN
00:53:12AFRICA, SENDING OFF YOUNG MAN
00:53:16FROM KENYA, TANZANIA AND OTHER
00:53:19PLACES, WHO THINK THEY ARE GOING FOR JOBS IN RUSSIA AND ARE
00:53:23LITERALLY GIVEN A WEAPON AND PUT ON THE FRONT LINE. HE DOESN'T CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE
00:53:26DIE ON HIS WATCH AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP HAMMERING AS
00:53:30HARD AS HE CAN WITH CIVILIAN
00:53:33TARGETS BEING HIS PRIMARY
00:53:36STRATEGIC GOAL, WHICH IS TO TRY
00:53:39AT SOME POINT TO BREAK THE WILL OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
00:53:43I DON'T THINK HE CAN DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHY IF WE PUSH BACK
00:53:47IN A MORE EFFECTIVE WAY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FORCE HIM TO
00:53:50COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PEACE DEAL.
00:53:52MICHAEL: EARLIER THIS MONTH, YOU
00:53:55PUBLISHED A PIECE IN THE
00:53:57FINANCIAL TIMES THAT, I DON'T
00:54:00REMEMBER THE EXACT TITLE, BUT WAS BASICALLY SAYING PRESIDENT
00:54:04TRUMP'S GAZA PLAN MAY NOT BE IDEAL, BUT IT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT
00:54:08AND WE SHOULD WORK WITH IT. WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO SAY
00:54:12SOMETHING SO POSITIVE ABOUT ONE
00:54:14OF HIS POLICIES AND WHAT WAS HIS REACTION TO THE ARTICLE?
00:54:18SEC. CLINTON: A COUPLE OF THINGS .
00:54:22I HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH INVOLVED
00:54:24IN A KIND OF TRACK TWO EFFORT
00:54:29FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS NOW
00:54:30WITH ISRAELIS, PALESTINIANS,
00:54:34ARABS, EUROPEANS, AMERICANS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE
00:54:38GOING TO GET OURSELVES IN A
00:54:41POSITION TO NOT ONLY CEASEFIRE
00:54:46AND END THE CONFLICT, BUT ENSURE
00:54:49ISRAEL'S SECURITY, ENSURE A
00:54:51DECENT LIFE FOR THE
00:54:55PALESTINIANS, CREATE A VISION OF
00:54:56A FUTURE THAT MIGHT KEEP SOME
00:55:01KIND OF PEACE AND PREVENT WAR FROM BREAKING OUT AGAINST.
00:55:06I HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON.
00:55:10I KNOW A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE
00:55:14WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE BOARD OF PEACE AND TRYING TO
00:55:16IMPLEMENT THIS 20 POINT CLAN.
00:55:20MY POINT IN WRITING IT, AND I PUT IN THE FINANCIAL TIMES
00:55:22BECAUSE I WAS AIMING AT MORE AT
00:55:25EUROPEANS AND ARABS THAN
00:55:28AMERICANS AT THIS JUNCTURE, IS THAT IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT
00:55:31WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN ISRAEL
00:55:34AND TO THE PALESTINIANS, THAN THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER OPTION THAN THE 20 POINT PLAN.
00:55:39NOBODY ELSE HAS A CHANCE OF COMING UP WITH ANYTHING THAT
00:55:43MIGHT POSSIBLY DISARM HAMAS,
00:55:46CREATE A CIVILIAN AUTHORITY
00:55:47WITHIN GAZA, PROVIDE THE KIND OF
00:55:52OPTIONS THAT COULD LEAD THE
00:55:56PALESTINIANS TO REENGAGE IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY.
00:56:03WHEN I WROTE THAT, I MEANT FOR
00:56:04IT TO PUSH THE EUROPEANS AND THE
00:56:09ARABS TO DO MORE TO DISARM
00:56:14HAMAS. UNLESS WE GET HAMAS DISARMED, NONE OF THIS WILL MEAN ANYTHING.
00:56:16I GOT A LOT OF INTERESTING RESPONSE. I HEARD FROM ARABS, I HEARD FROM EUROPEANS.
00:56:21BUT THE FUNNIEST THING IS THAT
00:56:25WHEN PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU
00:56:27REJECTED THE DEAL THAT HAD BEEN
00:56:30IN NEGOTIATIONS FOR MONTHS TO
00:56:33TRY TO DISARM HAMAS, LAND HAMAS
00:56:38HAD AGREED TO IT AT LEAST ON
00:56:40PAPER, TRUMP WAS VERY UPSET THAT
00:56:44NETANYAHU SAID HE WAS NOT GOING
00:56:45TO ACCEPT THE DISARMAMENT PLAN.
00:56:52THEN TRUMP NOT ONLY EXPRESSED
00:56:57HIS FEELINGS ABOUT NETANYAHU'S
00:56:58POSITION, BUT TRUMP THEN ON HIS
00:57:02TWEETING, OR HIS SOCIAL MEDIA
00:57:03THAT HE DOES, WHAT IS IT CALLED? TRUE SOCIAL.
00:57:08WHAT AN OXYMORON.
00:57:13HE POSTS, OR SOMEBODY WORKING
00:57:15FOR HIM POSTS, EVEN HILLARY
00:57:19CLINTON THINKS IT'S A GOOD DEAL.
00:57:19SO IN MY ARTICLE ON THE
00:57:24FINANCIAL TIMES, I HAD SAID THAT I AM AN IMPLACABLE OPPONENT OF
00:57:27DONALD TRUMP BUT I DO THINK THIS IS THE ONLY PATH FORWARD AND WE
00:57:31SHOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN MAKE IT
00:57:35WORK. AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT. MAYBE THE DISARMING OF HAMAS IS
00:57:39ON HOLD UNTIL AFTER THE ISRAELI ELECTION.
00:57:44BUT IF YOU DON'T DISARM HAMAS,
00:57:47DISARMAMENT DOESN'T HAPPEN JUST AT ONE TIME AND IT'S OVER.
00:57:51THE DISARMAMENT I AM MOST
00:57:52FAMILIAR WITH IS WHAT IT TOOK TO
00:57:56DISARMED THE IRA IN NORTHERN IRELAND.
00:57:58YOU HAD AN AGREEMENT. EVERYBODY SIGNED OFF ON THE AGREEMENT.
00:58:01IT TOOK 10 YEARS TO FIND EVERY
00:58:06CACHE OF WEAPONS TO PREVENT EVERY ROBE MEMBER OF THE IRA
00:58:09FROM TRYING TO GO BACK AND BUY MORE WEAPONS.
00:58:14IT TOOK 10 YEARS BUT IT WORKED.
00:58:18DO I THINK THIS WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE THE PLAN SAYS IT WILL
00:58:22HAPPEN AND EVEN HAMAS ALLEGEDLY
00:58:25SAYS
00:58:31THAT IS A STILL VERY WELL ARMED
00:58:34HAMAS, STILL OCCUPYING TUNNELS.
00:58:38AND STILL BASICALLY OPPRESSING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA.
00:58:41SO WE GOT TO START THE PROCESS THAT IS WHAT THIS PLAN LAYS OUT.
00:58:45MICHAEL: LET'S TALK CHINA FOR A MOMENT.
00:58:49OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, THE APPROACH OF THE UNITED
00:58:53STATES HAS BEEN TO URGE CHINA TO BECOME MORE OPEN, MORE MARKET-BASED.
00:58:56TO GET RID OF A LOT OF THE SUBSIDIES.