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00:00:00AGREEMENT.
00:00:01IT TOOK 10 YEARS TO FIND EVERY
00:00:06CACHE OF WEAPONS TO PREVENT EVERY ROBE MEMBER OF THE IRA
00:00:09FROM TRYING TO GO BACK AND BUY MORE WEAPONS.
00:00:13IT TOOK 10 YEARS BUT IT WORKED.
00:00:17DO I THINK THIS WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE THE PLAN SAYS IT WILL
00:00:22HAPPEN AND EVEN HAMAS ALLEGEDLY
00:00:24SAYS
00:00:30THAT IS A STILL VERY WELL ARMED
00:00:33HAMAS, STILL OCCUPYING TUNNELS.
00:00:37AND STILL BASICALLY OPPRESSING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA.
00:00:40SO WE GOT TO START THE PROCESS THAT IS WHAT THIS PLAN LAYS OUT.
00:00:44MICHAEL: LET'S TALK CHINA FOR A MOMENT.
00:00:48OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, THE APPROACH OF THE UNITED
00:00:52STATES HAS BEEN TO URGE CHINA TO BECOME MORE OPEN, MORE MARKET-BASED.
00:00:56TO GET RID OF A LOT OF THE SUBSIDIES.
00:01:00TO BECOME A BETTER CITIZEN WHEN
00:01:04IT COMES TO INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC POLICY.
00:01:08THEY ARE DEVELOPING A HUGE AMOUNT OF EXCESS CAPACITY.
00:01:12THEY ARE EXPORTING IT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD. IT IS HURTING MANUFACTURING EVERYWHERE. WHERE DO YOU SEE THE
00:01:15RELATIONSHIP GOING?
00:01:16WE HAVE A SECOND SUMMIT OF THE
00:01:20YEAR COMING UP IN PERHAPS A MONTH'S TIME.
00:01:23HOW SHOULD WE MANAGE THIS GOING
00:01:25FORWARD?
00:01:29SEC. CLINTON: YOU ARE THE REALLY
00:01:31EXPERT ON THIS AND YOU JUST WROTE A LONG, THOUGHTFUL PIECE
00:01:34ON IT.
00:01:37IN SUMMARY, AS YOU JUST SAID,
00:01:42CHINA HAS AS DOMINANT A POSITION
00:01:48IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AS THE U.S. DID AFTER WORLD WAR II. THE U.S. HAS DEPOSITIONS IN PART
00:01:52BECAUSE EUROPE WAS IN RUINS.
00:01:56JAPAN WAS IN RUINS. THE REST OF THE WORLD WAS
00:02:00DEVASTATED AND ALL KINDS OF WAYS FROM THE HORRORS OF WORLD WAR II.
00:02:04SO THE UNITED STATES WAS PREEMINENT ECONOMICALLY AS WELL
00:02:06AS MILITARILY.
00:02:08CHINA HAS THAT POSITION IN PART
00:02:11BECAUSE OF ITS RATHER REMARKABLE
00:02:13ECONOMIC MODELS GROWTH. NOW IT IS LIKE THE APPRENTICE.
00:02:17THE SORCERER'S APPRENTICE. IT CANNOT TURN OFF ITS
00:02:21OVERCAPACITY.
00:02:27IT IS ABSOLUTELY DOMINATING THE
00:02:29WORLD'S EXPORT MARKETS TO THE
00:02:32POINT THAT AS YOU POINT OUT IN YOUR ARTICLE IT RAISES SERIOUS
00:02:36QUESTIONS ON WHETHER NATIONS
00:02:40WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY THAT IS
00:02:43-- TO COMPETE AT ALL. THE ELECTRONIC VEHICLE AND
00:02:47AUTOMOTIVE SECTOR OF CHINA IS
00:02:49JUST SWAMPING EUROPE, AND IT EUROPE DOESN'T TAKE
00:02:52PROTECTIONIST MEASURES THEY , COULD LOSE THEIR AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURING CAPACITY.
00:02:57THEY ARE IN A RACE FOR
00:03:00TECHNOLOGICAL SUPERIORITY OVER US.
00:03:03WE HAVE TO COMPETE.
00:03:07BUT WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
00:03:09PART OF IT IS, AND THIS IS WHAT I FIND SO FASCINATING.
00:03:13IT BETRAYS A FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL
00:03:15OF INSECURITY. BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT,
00:03:19INCLUDING PRESIDENT XI.
00:03:26IT HAPPENS IN LARGE MEASURE BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT STIMULATE
00:03:30DOMESTIC DEMAND. THEY WILL NOT CREATE SOCIAL
00:03:34PROGRAMS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR KEEPING THE FAST AGING
00:03:38POPULATION OF CHINA BEING IMPOVERISHED BECAUSE THEY WILL
00:03:43NOT HAVE PENSIONS OR SOCIAL SECURITY. OR GUARANTEED HEALTH CARE.
00:03:47THERE IS NO SOCIAL SPENDING IS
00:03:50-- BY THE GOVERNMENT EQUIVALENT
00:03:53TO WHAT THE NEED IS AN THERE IS
00:03:54NO COMMITMENT TO STIMULATING
00:03:58CONSUMER DEMAND AMONG THE POPULATION. THEY ONLY KNOW HOW TO KEEP
00:04:04GENERATING MORE OUTPUT FOR AN
00:04:07-- IN ORDER TO EXPORT.
00:04:10THAT IS THEIR MODEL, AND THEY ARE WEDDED TO IT. WE HAVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS IN THE U.S.
00:04:14BUT THEY HAVE A BIG PROBLEM AS WELL.
00:04:17THEIR BIG PROBLEM CAN CAUSE BIG
00:04:18PROBLEMS TO THE REST OF US.
00:04:24RIGHT NOW I THINK WHAT WE NEED
00:04:27IS A VERY STEADY, SOBER LEADERSHIP WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE
00:04:30FROM THE TOP IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
00:04:33THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN AGENCIES AND IN DECISION-MAKING POSITIONS
00:04:37THAT UNDERSTAND THIS.
00:04:40YOU NEED TO ENGAGE WITH THE
00:04:43CHINESE IN A VERY PATIENT AND CONSISTENT MANNER.
00:04:47IF YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE THEM. AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AN
00:04:50ARGUMENT ABOUT WHY THEY SHOULD
00:04:58ADJUST THEIR ECONOMIC MODEL. FOR THEIR OWN GOOD AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE WORLD.
00:05:01WE ARE NOT MAKING THAT ARGUMENT.
00:05:06IT WOULD REQUIRE A BUNCH OF THINGS.
00:05:09WE SHOULD BE DOING GLOBAL
00:05:14EFFORTS ON HOW TO GOVERN AI.
00:05:17HOW TO DEAL WITH OVERSUPPLY AND
00:05:19OVER EXPORTING OUT OF CHINA AND
00:05:22HOW COUNTRIES CAN BETTER MANAGE
00:05:25AND DEFEND AGAINST THAT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE SHOULD BE PUTTING ON THE
00:05:29INTERNATIONAL AGENDA BUT THAT IS
00:05:36NOT HOW TRUMP THINKS. THAT IS NOT HOW HE WORKS. SO I DID NOT KNOW WHAT WE WILL
00:05:39SEE COME OUT OF THE SECOND
00:05:43SUMMIT THAT WILL BE USEFUL FOR US AND THAT WILL SEND THE RIGHT SIGNAL TO THE CHINESE.
00:05:46I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR YEARS.
00:05:50MICHAEL: NOBODY CAME HERE TO SEE
00:05:51MY VIEWS ON THE MATTER.
00:05:55SECRETARY CLINTON: GIVE IT A MINUTE OR TWO.
00:05:59>> I AGREE WITH YOU. THEY HAVE A MODEL THAT IS VERY MUCH WORKING.
00:06:01BUT AT SOME POINT THEY WILL RUN
00:06:03OUT OF CUSTOMERS.
00:06:08OTHER COUNTRIES WILL CLOSE THE MARKETS LIKE THE U.S. IS DOING
00:06:11AND THAT MAY HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL
00:06:16EFFECT ON THEM AND THE REST OF THE WORLD ECONOMY TOO. CHINA IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS
00:06:20WHERE THERE SEEMS TO BE CLOSE TO
00:06:21A BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS.
00:06:26WHERE ELSE IS THE BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS GOING?
00:06:31WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT COUPLE
00:06:32OF YEARS, IT'S UNLIKELY WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE WAY THINGS
00:06:36WERE BEFORE.
00:06:38WHERE DO YOU SEE AMERICAN
00:06:43FOREIGN-POLICY POLICY ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS GOING? SEC. CLINTON: I DO THINK THERE
00:06:46IS ACTUALLY MORE BIPARTISAN
00:06:49AGREEMENT ON SOME OF THESE
00:06:50THORNY ISSUES THEN PERHAPS WE
00:06:54SEE BECAUSE TRUMP SQUASHES IT. THERE STILL IS IN CONGRESS
00:06:58BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE.
00:07:06IF THE CONGRESS, I THOUGHT THE
00:07:08REPUBLICANS WHO KNOW BETTER AND
00:07:11UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AT STAKE, IF
00:07:14THE CONGRESS AFTER THIS MIDTERM ELECTION CAN REASSERT ITS
00:07:18AUTHORITY OVER FOREIGN POLICY
00:07:23AND OVER APPROPRIATIONS, THERE IS A LOT THAT I THINK WOULD END UP BEING BIPARTISAN.
00:07:27SUPPLYING UKRAINE, CONTINUING TO
00:07:29SUPPORT THE NATO ALLIANCE, LOOKING FOR NEW WAYS OF
00:07:33COOPERATING.
00:07:36WHEN TRUMP ATTACKS OUR ALLIANCES
00:07:43AND NATO, I ASK MYSELF, WHY THEN WOULD FINLAND AND SWEDEN JOINED.
00:07:48IF IT IS SUCH A LOSER OF AN
00:07:49ALLIANCE.
00:07:52COUNTRIES THAT ARE RIGHT IN THE TWO PATH OF RUSSIAN AGGRESSION. THEY DECIDED THEY WOULD JOIN NATO.
00:07:56THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF ASSETS.
00:08:03MILITARY, INTELLIGENCE ASSETS INTO NATO. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF BIPARTISAN UNDERSTANDING THAT IS
00:08:06NOT BEING ACTED ON. BECAUSE TRUMP DOESN'T WANT TO
00:08:08HEAR IT.
00:08:13IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION FOR THESE REPUBLICANS TO TAKE. I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
00:08:17BIPARTISAN EFFORT TO SAVE THE
00:08:19DEFENSE DEPARTMENT.
00:08:22PETE HEGSETH IS HOLLOWING OUT THE OFFICER CORPS.
00:08:26HE IS SENDING THE WRONG
00:08:27MESSAGES.
00:08:32ABOUT WHAT OUR STRENGTHS ARE AND SHOULD BE.
00:08:35YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF BIPARTISAN
00:08:39SUPPORT FREE THOUGHTFUL, SMART,
00:08:43DELIBERATIVE POLICY TOWARD CHINA. YOU WILL CERTAINLY SEE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR SOUTH
00:08:47KOREA.
00:08:51AND FOR JAPAN WHICH IS TAKING ACTION TO ACTUALLY INCREASE ITS OWN DEFENSE SPENDING.
00:08:55AND TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE TO FEND OFF CHINESE AGGRESSION.
00:08:59YOU CAN GO DOWN THE LINE. YOU WILL CERTAINLY SEE
00:09:02BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR A NEW
00:09:05REFORM DEVELOPMENT AGENDA. HOW WILL WE DO DEVELOPMENT?
00:09:10WHEN I BECAME SECRETARY I SAID WE HAD THE THREE D'S OF DIPLOMACY.
00:09:15DEFENSE, DIPLOMACY, AND DEVELOPMENT.
00:09:23WE ABANDON DIPLOMACY AND DEVELOPMENT AS VERY STRONG AND IMPORTANT TOOLS FOR AMERICAN SECURITY.
00:09:29THERE IS A LOT OF BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE IN THE
00:09:34REPUBLICAN CLOAKROOM IN THE SENATE THERE IS MUCH ENTHUSIASM FOR GOING INTO A TRADE WAR WITH
00:09:38CANADA.
00:09:41YOU LOOK ACROSS OUR BORDER WITH CANADA, I WAS LOOKING AT THE
00:09:44PERCENTAGE OF TRADE.
00:09:4940% OF OHIO'S EXPORTS GO TO CANADA. SOMETHING LIKE 60% OF MICHIGAN'S
00:09:53EXPORTS GO TO CANADA.
00:09:54I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT REPUBLICANS
00:10:00IN THOSE STATES ARE LITERALLY ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY ARE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS
00:10:05NONSENSE THAT TRUMP IS PROMOTING.
00:10:07AND PROBABLY SECRETLY CHEERING MARK CARNEY FOR STANDING UP TO
00:10:12HIM AND DOING WHAT HE IS NOW DOING ON BEHALF OF HIS COUNTRY
00:10:16BUT ON BEHALF OF THE
00:10:18INTERNATIONAL MENTALITY.
00:10:22I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL BIPARTISANSHIP. MICHAEL: LET ME ASK ONE LAST
00:10:25QUESTION BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO
00:10:28THE AUDIENCE THAT I HOPE WILL IN
00:10:30-- AND ON A POSITIVE NOTE.
00:10:36WE LOOK AT 250 YEARS, WE SEE THE
00:10:40HISTORY OF POLARIZATION AND EVEN
00:10:46CONSTITUTIONAL CRISES. I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE LATE 60'S AND EARLY 70'S, THE
00:10:50RIOTS IN THE STREET, STUDENT BEING SHOT ON CAMPUS.
00:10:55THE LOSS OF BLOOD AND TREASURE IN A FOREVER WAR. AND YET WE GOT THROUGH IT.
00:10:59THE COUNTRY GOT THROUGH IT. YOU DID A BEAUTIFUL PIECE ON
00:11:03ELEANOR ROOSEVELT RECENTLY AND ABOUT ALL THE CHALLENGES SHE SAW AND WORKED HER WAY THROUGH.
00:11:08OVER THE COURSE OF HER LIFETIME. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, HOW OPTIMISTIC ARE YOU
00:11:11ABOUT THE RESILIENCE OF THE
00:11:14AMERICAN ECONOMY.
00:11:16AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.
00:11:19AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS AND OUR CAPACITY TO COME OUT THE OTHER
00:11:22END AND A GOOD POSITION. SEC. CLINTON: I'M FUNDAMENTALLY
00:11:24OPTIMISTIC.
00:11:27BUT I AM AS MY LATE FRIEND MADELEINE ALBRIGHT USED TO SAY I
00:11:30AM AN OPTIMIST WHO WORRIES A
00:11:31LOT.
00:11:38I'M OPTIMISTIC, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M JUST GOING TO SIT BACK AND HOPE FOR THE BEST.
00:11:42THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO WIN ELECTIONS AND ELECT PEOPLE TO
00:11:44ACT RESPONSIBLY.
00:11:48WHO RESPECT AMERICA, WHO BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW AND
00:11:50EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS UNDER THREAT TODAY.
00:11:53IT ALSO MEANS WE HAVE TO SUMMON
00:11:56THE MOST POWERFUL RESOURCES WE
00:11:59HAVE WHICH IS OUR CITIZENRY.
00:12:03PEOPLE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SPEAK OUT TO GET INVOLVED IN
00:12:06THEIR COMMUNITIES.
00:12:09IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE FROM THE LOCAL TO THE STATE TO THE
00:12:13NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE PEOPLE ARE ONCE AGAIN COMING TOGETHER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
00:12:16EXERCISING THE CIVIC MUSCLES. SO THAT DEMOCRACY IN ACTION IS
00:12:20SEEN AS PRODUCING POSITIVE
00:12:21RESULTS.
00:12:24I SEE SOME VERY BIG CHALLENGES
00:12:26ON THE HORIZON.
00:12:31WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO ADDRESS.
00:12:34WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT AI IS
00:12:36GOING TO DO TO OUR MINDS, OUR
00:12:39HEARTS, AND OUR LABOR MARKETS.
00:12:42WHAT DO WE DO TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE BENEFITS AND NOT THE DOWNSIDE?
00:12:46I THINK WE HAVE TO REVITALIZE OUR INSTITUTIONS.
00:12:51WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THE WAY WE WERE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN THAT WORLD ANYMORE.
00:12:54WHAT THE INTERNET HAS DONE IS REMARKABLE ON THE UPSIDE AND
00:12:56DOWNSIDE. IT HAS DRIVEN PEOPLE FURTHER
00:13:00APART. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CONNECTING US TO EVERYBODY.
00:13:06IT IS A VERY STRANGE PHENOMENON IN HUMAN HISTORY.
00:13:09WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
00:13:12MAKE IT A TOOL FOR PROMOTING
00:13:19INDIVIDUAL AUTONOMY AND INDIVIDUAL FLOURISHING AND DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS.
00:13:22AND COLLECTIVE BETTERMENT. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO
00:13:25THAT. SO I AM FUNDAMENTALLY
00:13:29OPTIMISTIC. BUT I DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE BOTH
00:13:33THE DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN EFFORTS
00:13:37TO DIVIDE AND DESTROY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE THAT
00:13:40SERIOUSLY.
00:13:43YOU SAID EARLIER THAT I
00:13:46NEGOTIATED WITH PUTIN AND SPENT
00:13:47TIME WITH HIM.
00:13:51HIS GOAL IS TO UNDERMINE THE WEST. IT IS NOT COMPLICATED.
00:13:55HE WANTS TO SEE CHAOS.
00:13:57HE WANTS TO SEE DIVISIVENESS.
00:14:00HE WANTS TO SEE DOMINANCE THAT
00:14:03COMES FROM HIS IDEOLOGY AND FROM A RUSSIAN NATIONALISTIC
00:14:06PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE REAL ADVERSARIES IN THE
00:14:10WORLD TODAY AND WE HAVE ADVERSARIES IN OUR OWN COUNTRY
00:14:14WHO ARE UNDERMINING OUR STRENGTH
00:14:17AND CAPACITY TO MAKE SMART,
00:14:19EVIDENCE-BASED DECISIONS. BUT I THINK WE ARE STARTING TO
00:14:23SEE THE TIDE TURNED ON THAT.
00:14:26I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT WE CAN GET OUR SHIP OF STATE RIGHT IN
00:14:30FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE PROGRESS TOGETHER.
00:14:33[APPLAUSE]
00:14:40MICHAEL: LET ME TAKE SOME OF THE AUDIENCE QUESTIONS. I MIGHT TRY TO COMBINE SOME AS
00:14:43WE GO THROUGH THIS. A COUPLE HERE ON THE MIDDLE
00:14:46EAST. ISRAEL HAS LOST SO MUCH SUPPORT
00:14:49ESPECIALLY AMONG YOUNG VOTERS. SHOULD THE DEMOCRATS WE THINK
00:14:52THE PARTY'S EMBRACE OF ISRAEL? SEC. CLINTON: I THINK THAT IS A
00:14:57FAIR STATEMENT OF WHERE WE ARE. IT IS GENERATIONAL.
00:15:00AS MUCH AS ANYTHING.
00:15:06THE VERY BIG DISILLUSIONMENT.
00:15:10WITH WHAT YOUNG IN THE NETANYAHU
00:15:13GOVERNMENT.
00:15:16AND I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE A DISTINCTION WHICH IS HARD TO
00:15:20DRAW BECAUSE THE WORLD TODAY, THE POLARIZED WORLD WE ARE AND,
00:15:23DOES NOT FAVOR COMPLEXITY OR
00:15:29NUANCE.
00:15:32IT FAVORS BINARY CHOICES. ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST?
00:15:36THE RIGHT ANSWER IS WE ARE
00:15:40AGAINST A LOT OF DECISIONS THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT IS MAKING AND FOR ISRAEL. I AM AGAINST A LOT OF THE
00:15:44DECISIONS THAT THE TRUMP
00:15:47ADMINISTRATION MAKES, AND I AM FOR AMERICA. DON'T GET YOURSELF CAUGHT IN A
00:15:52WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A FALSE CHOICE.
00:15:55IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO THIS DRAW THOSE DISTINCTIONS.
00:15:58THAT IS HOW I THINK ABOUT IT.
00:16:02AND HOW I ABOUT IT.
00:16:05BUT THERE SHOULD BE NO DOUBT IN
00:16:07ANYONE'S MIND HAS SERIOUSLY
00:16:12NETANYAHU HAS DAMAGED FIRST AND FOREMOST ISRAEL.
00:16:16AND SECOND, THE PERCEPTION THAT
00:16:18PEOPLE NOT JUST IN THE U.S. BUT
00:16:20AROUND THE WORLD HAVE OF ISRAEL.
00:16:23THAT HAS TO BE REPAIRED. THERE HAS TO BE A LOT OF WORK
00:16:27DONE TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF
00:16:31SECURITY AND FUTURE THAT IS NEEDED.
00:16:34PERSONALLY I KNOW A LOT OF
00:16:38PEOPLE, EITHER ISRAELI OR A LOT
00:16:41OF AMERICANS WITH FAMILIES IN ISRAEL, YOUNG PEOPLE IN ISRAEL
00:16:45ARE SAYING IF THIS DOES NOT CHANGE, WE ARE LEAVING.
00:16:47SO IT IS NOT JUST AN AMERICAN
00:16:50PROBLEM ABOUT WHAT NETANYAHU IN MY VIEW HAS DONE TO UNDERMINE
00:16:53THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
00:17:02MICHAEL: IS THERE A RISK THAT WE OVER PERSONALIZE IT IN NETANYAHU AND WHATEVER COMES AFTER HIM,
00:17:05THERE IS NOT MUCH SUPPORT IN
00:17:08ISRAEL FOR A TWO STATE SOLUTION
00:17:11FOR EXAMPLE ANYMORE. THERE IS GREAT DIVISION ON SECURING THE NORTHERN BORDER.
00:17:15MAKING SURE PEOPLE COULD MOVE BACK TO THE BORDER OF THE SET OF
00:17:21-- SIDE OF LEBANON. WHAT IS THE RISK THAT WE HAVE PUT ALL THE FOCUS ON NETANYAHU
00:17:24WHEN IN FACT ISRAEL HAS DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAT SOME OF
00:17:28THE INTEREST BEING EXPRESSED HERE THE U.S.? SEC. CLINTON: I THINK THAT IS A
00:17:32FAIR STATEMENT.
00:17:36BUT I WOULD SAY THERE ARE A LOT
00:17:40OF POSSIBLE ACTIONS THAT A NEW
00:17:42ISRAELI GOVERNMENT COULD TAKE.
00:17:49FOR EXAMPLE, IN -- END SETTLER
00:17:56VIOLENCE IN THE WEST BANK. IT IS WRONG AND IT IS DESTABILIZING AND IT IS ULTIMATELY DANGEROUS. NOT JUST TO PALESTINIANS BUT TO
00:18:00ISRAEL.
00:18:03FOR ME, THAT IS PART OF SOMETHING THAT ANY NEW GOVERNMENT, TO ENFORCE THE RULE
00:18:07OF LAW AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT
00:18:09THAT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
00:18:20THE PEACE IN THE WEST BANK HAS HELD IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY FROM A
00:18:24PROGRAM STARTED USING YEARS AGO
00:18:26HAS TRAINED PALESTINIANS DAN
00:18:31-- SECURITY FORCES IN JORDAN AND
00:18:36WHEN HAMAS DID THE HORRIFIC TERRORIST ATTACK ON OCTOBER 7,
00:18:40THEY THOUGHT THAT HEZBOLLAH WOULD COME IN THEIR SIDE.
00:18:44THEY THOUGHT THE WEST BANK WOULD
00:18:45EXPLODE AND IT DIDN'T.
00:18:49THERE IS A LOT THAT COULD BE DONE BY A NEW ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.
00:18:53WILL THEY JUMP TO SOME KIND OF
00:18:54PEACE NEGOTIATION?
00:18:58NO, OF COURSE NOT. BUT WHEN I WAS SECRETARY OF
00:19:01STATE, WE HAD A SETTLEMENT
00:19:03FREEZE THAT I NEGOTIATED.
00:19:06THAT LASTED THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY
00:19:12NO BUILDING EITHER IN EAST , JERUSALEM OR THE WEST BANK. WE HAD A DEAL. WE KEPT IT.
00:19:16WHEN I WAS SECRETARY OF STATE WE
00:19:20WERE WORKING HARD WITH THE PRIME MINISTER OF THE PALESTINIAN
00:19:23AUTHORITY WHO WAS ROOTING OUT
00:19:25CORRUPTION AND BUILDING
00:19:27INSTITUTIONS THAT COULD ACTUALLY DELIVER FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
00:19:31IT WAS NOT SOME BIG PEACE
00:19:32AGREEMENT SIGNING.
00:19:39ON THE LAWN OF THE WHITE HOUSE, SADLY, BUT IT WAS BUILDING CREDIBILITY.
00:19:44IT WAS BUILDING CONFIDENCE. IT WAS A SLOW PROCESS.
00:19:48EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING TO
00:19:52HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
00:19:55BUT THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 20 POINT PLAN. IT TALKS ABOUT REBUILDING GAZA.
00:19:58GETTING RID OF HAMAS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
00:20:02AN ISRAELI GOVERNMENT COULD DO
00:20:05THAT WOULD BEGIN TO DO IN MY VIEW REALLY ENHANCE THE SECURITY
00:20:09AND DEAL WITH THE TRAUMA AFTER
00:20:12OCTOBER 7 BECAUSE IT IS REAL AND IT IS DEEP.
00:20:15BUT ALSO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT WE ARE
00:20:18TURNING THE PAGE. WE WILL TRY TO DO THAT
00:20:21CONSISTENT WITH OUR SECURITY.
00:20:23WE WILL TRY TO DO MORE TO MOVE
00:20:28AWAY FROM THE KIND OF BEHAVIOR AND STATEMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF
00:20:32THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT. MICHAEL: LET'S TALK ABOUT
00:20:36POLITICS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. REPUBLICANS HAVE GONE THROUGH A
00:20:40MAJOR UPHEAVAL IN THEIR PARTY.
00:20:43A VISION BETWEEN TRADITIONAL
00:20:51REPUBLICANS, THE MAGA MOVEMENT, DEMOCRATS NOW SEEM TO BE GOING THROUGH A MAJOR UPHEAVAL BETWEEN
00:20:55CENTERLEFT AND DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS. WHY ARE WE SEEING THIS POLARIZATION OF THE PARTIES?
00:20:58WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR THE FUTURE
00:20:59OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
00:21:03SEC. CLINTON: I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME SIMILARITIES BUT
00:21:06ALSO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES.
00:21:12THE MAGA MOVEMENT GREW OUT OF
00:21:15THE TEA PARTY.
00:21:20AND SOME OF THE MOST RADICAL ELEMENTS OF THE REPUBLICAN
00:21:24PARTY, FUELED BY THE MEDIA THAT
00:21:25THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TURNED TO
00:21:29THAT BASICALLY GAVE THEM
00:21:32PERMISSION TO BE MORE AND MORE
00:21:34DIVISIVE.
00:21:38AND THEN TRUMP BECAME THE AVATAR FOR THAT ELEMENT AND PUT HIS OWN
00:21:43PERSONAL TOUCHES ON IT.
00:21:45I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THAT
00:21:49PARTICULARLY AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE,
00:21:52AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO PAY
00:21:54MORE ATTENTION TO THEN THE LABEL
00:22:02OF A PERSON WHO IS RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR EVEN NOMINATED OR ELECTED. YOUNG PEOPLE FEEL THAT OUR SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING FOR THEM.
00:22:06AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF REASON TO
00:22:07FEEL THAT WAY.
00:22:10IT IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO DO
00:22:13THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE
00:22:19IN THEIR 20'S DID. OR AT LEAST IT SEEMS TO BE AS THEY EXPERIENCE THIS.
00:22:24FORM LASTING RELATIONSHIPS TO
00:22:29START FAMILIES, TO HAVE A CHANCE TO OWN A HOUSE OR PAY THE RENT TO FEEL THAT THEIR COLLEGE
00:22:33, EDUCATIONS WILL PAY OFF. THIS IS REALITY. THIS IS NOT SITTING IN A BACK
00:22:36ROOM SOMEWHERE MAKING IT UP.
00:22:39THIS IS A FEELING THAT A LOT OF
00:22:42YOUNG AMERICANS HAVE THAT IF IT
00:22:45WORKED FOR MY PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, THAT IS GREAT, BUT IT IS NOT WORKING FOR US.
00:22:49WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO STILL LIVING
00:22:53AT HOME BECAUSE THEY CANNOT
00:22:58AFFORD NOT TO LIVE AT HOME OR
00:22:59THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR EDUCATION
00:23:04WHICH PUT THEM INTO DEBT IS NOT PAYING OFF. THEY CANNOT GET A JOB THAT HAS
00:23:08ANY UPWARD MOBILITY ATTACHED TO IT.
00:23:09WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB IN
00:23:12RESPONDING TO THE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, WHEN MAMDANI WAS
00:23:16ELECTED TO NEW YORK AND MIKIE SHERRILL WAS ELECTED TO NEW
00:23:19JERSEY AND ABIGAIL SPANBERGER WAS ELECTED IN VIRGINIA ON THE
00:23:23SAME DAY, TWO GOVERNORS AND ONE
00:23:27MAYOR -- EVEN THOUGH THEY CAME FROM, YOU WOULD SAY, DIFFERENT
00:23:31PARTS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, THEY WERE ALL BASICALLY SAYING THE SAME THING. WE KNOW IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR
00:23:35YOU TO LIVE. YOU CANNOT RENT AN APARTMENT IN NEW YORK.
00:23:39YOU CANNOT PAY YOUR LECTURE CITY
00:23:42-- YOUR ELECTRICITY BILL IN NEW JERSEY.
00:23:45YOU CANNOT AFFORD HEALTH CARE IN VIRGINIA. IT WAS THE SAME MESSAGE BY
00:23:47DIFFERENT MESSENGERS.
00:23:51SO, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW IS, I THINK, GOING THROUGH A
00:23:54KIND OF EXPERIMENT, LIKE WHO CAN
00:23:56ACTUALLY RESPOND PARTICULARLY TO
00:23:59YOUNG PEOPLE'S VERY REAL
00:24:03CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE AT
00:24:05THIS POINT IN THEIR LIVES AND WHAT KIND OF FUTURE DO THEY HAVE
00:24:08FOR THEMSELVES? I THINK THAT IS HEALTHY.
00:24:12I DON'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE
00:24:14POSITIONS PEOPLE TAKE BUT I WANT TO SEE RESULTS.
00:24:18ARE YOU ACTUALLY GETTING RESULTS? IS MORE HOUSING THAT'S
00:24:22AFFORDABLE BEING BUILT? ARE THERE MORE CAREER PATHS? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT AI
00:24:26IF IT DESTROYS ENTRY-LEVEL JOBS? WHAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE EXPECTED
00:24:29TO DO?
00:24:32THESE ARE REAL PROBLEMS AND PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING WITH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
00:24:36ADDRESS IT.
00:24:37I THINK THE JURY IS OUT.
00:24:41I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO
00:24:43HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS UNTIL WE
00:24:48SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MIDTERMS AND WE SEE, LET'S HOPE, A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS TRIES TO DO TO RESPOND TO THESE VERY
00:24:52LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.
00:24:53AND IF WE DON'T, PEOPLE ARE
00:24:56GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM DEMOCRACY. IT'S NOT WORKING FOR ME.
00:25:00I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I WAS
00:25:03SUPPOSED TO DO AND IT'S NOT WORKING FOR ME. SO, WE'VE GOT TO PROVE OUR
00:25:07SYSTEM CAN WORK. AND THAT'S HARDER TODAY THAN IT
00:25:11USED TO BE BECAUSE VERY OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE PEOPLE TRYING
00:25:15TO PREVENT IT FROM WORKING OR TRYING TO DISTORT ITS
00:25:19WORKINGS.
00:25:22I GET VERY AMUSED WHEN I HEAR
00:25:26TRUMP AND HIS PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM.
00:25:29THE WAY HE'S BEHAVING IS SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH.
00:25:32IT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS
00:25:35ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT COMES TO
00:25:38DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO
00:25:41AVOID RISKS AND LOSS FOR PEOPLE
00:25:43WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THEM.
00:25:47-- YOU ARE ALREADY WELL.
00:25:52AND TO USE THE POWER OF THE GOVERNMENT TO BENEFIT HIMSELF AND HIS CRONIES AND HIS ALLIES. AND THEN TO HAVE THE UNITED
00:25:56STATES GOVERNMENT TAKING STAKES IN BUSINESSES. REMEMBER HOW THEY YELLED AND
00:25:59SCREAMED WHEN OBAMA PROVIDED
00:26:01SUBSIDIES FOR SOLAR COMPANIES?
00:26:04WELL, ALSO, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:26:07REALLY DOING WELL RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE DOING WELL OFF THE BACKS OF THE MONEY WE INVESTED
00:26:11IN RESEARCH IN THIS COUNTRY. AND THEY ARE DOING WELL OFF OF
00:26:16SUBSIDIES.
00:26:18ELON MUSK COULD NOT EXIST AS A
00:26:20TRILLIONAIRE IF HE HAD NOT HAD SUCH GREAT SUBSIDIES FOR TESLA
00:26:24AND SPACEX.
00:26:27SO, IT IS A VERY IRONIC SITUATION FOR US TO FIND
00:26:30OURSELVES IN WHEN THE LEGITIMATE NEEDS, PARTICULARLY OF YOUNG
00:26:34PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING MET, AND
00:26:36EVERY POSSIBLE WISH FOR ANYTHING
00:26:40TO FURTHER THEIR FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE IS BEING PROVIDED FOR
00:26:43WELL OFF PEOPLE. AND THAT IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
00:26:47[APPLAUSE]
00:26:52MICHAEL: SINCE YOU HAVE RAISED IT, DO YOU THINK THERE'S A ROLE FOR WHAT USED TO BE CALLED
00:26:56INDUSTRIAL POLICY GOING FORWARD? SEC. CLINTON: YES.
00:26:59I THOUGHT BIDEN DID A GOOD JOB. I THOUGHT SHIPS AND SCIENCE --
00:27:04CHIPS AND SCIENCE. THE IRONY IS A LOT OF THAT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD, IT HAS NOT
00:27:08BEEN STOPPED.
00:27:11I BELIEVED THERE WAS A REAL
00:27:13OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT, BUT IT WAS
00:27:16THE SLOW BORING APPROACH THAT
00:27:18BIDEN DID AS OPPOSED TO YOUR
00:27:21IPO, WE ARE TAKING 10% OF IT.
00:27:28THAT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL POLICY. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE. THAT IS SOCIALISM IN A DIFFERENT NAME. YEAH, I THINK BIDEN HAD A LOT OF
00:27:32REALLY GOOD IDEAS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WERE NEVER REALLY
00:27:35SOLD.
00:27:39MICHAEL: BASED ON YOUR DECADES OF PUBLIC SERVICE, WHAT UNEXPECTED PUBLIC LESSON HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT LEADERSHIP IN
00:27:42AMERICAN POLITICS?
00:27:50[LAUGHTER] SEC. CLINTON: BOY. I HAVE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS,
00:27:52AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT.
00:27:57I'VE LEARNED THAT YOU CAN'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON YOUR WATCH.
00:28:00WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE 25TH
00:28:02TERRIBLE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11,
00:28:05AND I WAS A SENATOR FOR EIGHT
00:28:08MONTHS WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED.
00:28:11IT WAS CERTAINLY NOT ANYTHING I EVER THOUGHT ABOUT, CAMPAIGNED
00:28:15ON, RANGED MY STAFF AROUND RESPONDING TO.
00:28:18IT IS WHAT I SPENT MOST OF MY FIRST TERM DEALING WITH HERE IN
00:28:22THE STATE. SO, YOU HAVE TO BE AS
00:28:26WELL-PREPARED AS YOU CAN BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
00:28:29IT IS JUST UNPREDICTABLE.
00:28:33THAT'S PART OF LIFE, BUT ALSO PART OF LEADERSHIP.
00:28:37MICHAEL: DO YOU THINK -- WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE ANNIVERSARY
00:28:40COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS --
00:28:42DO YOU THINK WE HAVE LEARNED THE
00:28:45RIGHT LESSONS FROM 9/11 AND THE WAR ON TERROR AND WHAT CAME
00:28:48AFTERWARDS? SEC. CLINTON: I THINK WE'VE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS.
00:28:52I THINK WE MADE A LOT OF
00:28:53MISTAKES.
00:28:58AND BELIEVE, THOUGH, THAT ONE OF
00:29:00THE REAL LASTING MEMORIES I HAVE
00:29:04IS HOW UNITED OUR COUNTRY WAS,
00:29:07AND HOW EXTRAORDINARILY
00:29:10SUPPORTIVE PEOPLE WERE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FOR WHAT WE WENT
00:29:14THROUGH IN NEW YORK AND THE
00:29:17HEROISM OF THE PASSENGERS ON THE
00:29:21PLANE THAT WAS BROUGHT DOWN AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT HAPPENED AT THE
00:29:24PENTAGON. I WILL SAY THAT IS THE LESSON
00:29:28THAT STICKS WITH ME.
00:29:30WHEN WE WANT TO BE UNITED TO WORK TOGETHER, IF WE HAVE THE
00:29:34RIGHT KIND OF SENSE OF COMMUNITY
00:29:38AND NATIONAL RESOLVE, WE CAN DO
00:29:40A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS.
00:29:43TO THIS DAY, I AM VERY GRATEFUL
00:29:48THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND
00:29:51PRESIDENT BUSH PERSONALLY
00:29:55SUPPORTED VERY RESOLUTELY THE MONEY WE NEEDED TO REBUILD NEW YORK.
00:29:59THAT WAS NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION AT ALL.
00:30:02SO, WE'VE LEARNED SOME POSITIVE
00:30:04LESSONS, BUT I THINK ALSO WHEN
00:30:08YOU MAKE DECISIONS IN THE HEAT
00:30:11OF PAIN AND SUFFERING AND ANGER
00:30:14AND SURPRISE, YOU OFTEN MAKE THE WRONG DECISIONS.
00:30:18AND I THINK THAT'S A LESSON THAT
00:30:21MORE BROADLY APPLIES THEN JUST THE UNITED STATES POST 9/11. MICHAEL: TWO LAST QUESTIONS.
00:30:25FIRST, IN 1995, I THINK IT WAS,
00:30:30YOU WENT TO CHINA FOR A BIG
00:30:33CONFERENCE AND YOU FAMOUSLY DECLARED HUMAN RIGHTS ARE WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND WOMEN'S
00:30:37RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. YOU HAVE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE
00:30:39FOR WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP IN THE
00:30:41ADVANCEMENT OF POLITICS.
00:30:47YOU PUBLISH AN ARTICLE IN
00:30:48FOREIGN AFFAIRS MAGAZINE ABOUT
00:30:51THE NEXUS BETWEEN WOMEN AND
00:30:53DEMOCRACY, EFFECTIVELY.
00:30:56HOW DO YOU ASSESS THE STATUS OF
00:30:59WOMEN IN POLITICS TODAY?
00:31:04AND HOW CAN -- WHAT STEPS CAN BE TAKEN TO FUTURE PROOF THE
00:31:07CAPABILITY OF HAVING WOMEN AT
00:31:10THE TABLE TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY.
00:31:14SEC. CLINTON: IN THAT ARTICLE, I WAS TRYING TO SOUND AN ALARM
00:31:16BECAUSE I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A
00:31:22VERY SIGNIFICANT PUSHBACK ON THE
00:31:26PROGRESS WOMEN HAVE MADE IN THE LAST 30 YEARS SINCE THE BEIJING
00:31:29CONFERENCE.
00:31:31AND I THINK THERE IS A VIRULENT
00:31:36FORM OF MISOGYNY AND SEXISM
00:31:39ONLINE THAT IS GOING AFTER WOMEN WHO ARE IN THE PUBLIC EYE.
00:31:43THAT IS NOT JUST WOMEN IN POLITICS OR GOVERNMENT, BUT
00:31:46WOMEN IN BUSINESS, WOMEN IN
00:31:48ENTERTAINMENT, WOMEN IN SPORTS.
00:31:53THERE WAS A VERY SAD STUDY THAT
00:31:57JUST CAME OUT TALKING ABOUT HOW YOUNG MEN 20 YEARS AGO THOUGHT
00:32:00WOMEN SHOULD HAVE EQUAL
00:32:02OPPORTUNITY AND SHOULD BE ABLE
00:32:06TO COMPETE FOR WHATEVER THEY
00:32:07THOUGHT THEY WERE QUALIFIED FOR.
00:32:11AND NOW, THE NUMBERS OF YOUNG MEN WHO BELIEVE THAT HAVE FALLEN
00:32:15DRAMATICALLY. THERE WAS A RECENT OP-ED MAYBE
00:32:19YESTERDAY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES THAT HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE
00:32:22WOMEN WHO HAD BEEN DRIVEN OUT OF
00:32:24THE MILITARY BY HEGSETH.
00:32:28WOMEN WHO EARNED IT THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY.
00:32:3240 YEARS OF NAVAL SERVICE,
00:32:35ENDING UP COMMANDING AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER GROUP, BECOMING THE
00:32:38FIRST WOMAN TO HEAD THE NAVAL
00:32:41SERVICES, AND BEING FIRED BY
00:32:44HEGSETH IN HIS RELENTLESS QUEST
00:32:47FOR MORE TESTOSTERONE, WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE SOME INTERESTING
00:32:52CONSEQUENCES.
00:32:54I THINK THERE IS A BACKLASH
00:32:57AGAINST WOMEN'S PROGRESS AND IT
00:33:00IS BEING VERY DELIBERATELY
00:33:02FUELED BY SOME MANIPULATORS
00:33:07ONLINE THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO AND IT IS BEING
00:33:11SADLY EXHIBITED IN THIS
00:33:14ADMINISTRATION, FIRST AND
00:33:16FOREMOST, IN THE PENTAGON.
00:33:19IT IS SORT OF IRONIC THAT THE
00:33:21ONLY PEOPLE TRUMP HAS PERSONALLY FIRED ARE HIS FOUR WOMEN
00:33:25APPOINTMENTS. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, THE JUSTICE
00:33:29DEPARTMENT, THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OTHER.
00:33:34SO, I THINK WE'VE MADE A LOT OF
00:33:37PROGRESS BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
00:33:40I WAS PRIVILEGED TO BE AN
00:33:44EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THE
00:33:47WONDERFUL PLAY ABOUT THE STRUGGLE TO GET WOMEN THE RIGHT
00:33:50TO VOTE.
00:33:52IN THE LAST SONG, "KEEP
00:34:03MARCHING," THERE IS THAT REALLY POIGNANT LINE THAT PROGRESS IS POSSIBLE BUT NOT GUARANTEED.
00:34:06SO, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE PROGRESS IS POSSIBLE BUT WE CAN'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED AND
00:34:10WE CAN'T ASSUME BECAUSE ROE V.
00:34:13WADE GAVE WOMEN AUTONOMY OVER THE MOST PERSONAL OF THEIR
00:34:17HEALTH DECISIONS THAT IT'S GOING
00:34:19TO BE THERE FOREVER BECAUSE THERE ARE ALWAYS FORCES AT WORK THAT WANT TO TURN THE CLOCK BACK
00:34:23ON WOMEN.
00:34:28I'M VERY KEENLY AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE ON THAT FRONT.
00:34:32MICHAEL: LAST AUDIENCE QUESTION.
00:34:35WHAT AND WHO GIVE YOU HOPE?
00:34:40SEC. CLINTON: WELL, YOUNG PEOPLE GIVE ME HOPE, INCLUDING MY THREE
00:34:44GRANDCHILDREN GIVE ME HOPE.
00:34:47I THINK -- I AM SOMEONE WHO
00:34:52BELIEVES THAT HOPE IS A GREAT
00:34:58UNDERUTILIZED FEELING AND PEOPLE
00:35:01SHOULD NEVER LOSE HOPE NO MATTER
00:35:05HOW DARK THE TIME MAY BE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE OR YOUR COMMUNITY,
00:35:09FAMILY, COUNTRY.
00:35:12IT CAN HELP FUEL YOU AND KEEP YOU GOING.
00:35:15IT IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT OPTIMISM
00:35:17WHICH SOMEONE ONCE SAID IS A MORAL CHOICE.
00:35:21I REALLY BELIEVE THAT. I THINK WE NEED IT NOW MORE THAN
00:35:25EVER.
00:35:26I DON'T THINK IT IS AN ACCIDENT
00:35:29THAT OUR TWO MOST RECENT TWO-TERM DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS,
00:35:34BILL CLINTON, THE MAN FROM HOPE, AND BARACK OBAMA, THE HOPE AND
00:35:38CHANGE CANDIDATE, BOTH CAME FROM
00:35:40A POSITION OF HOPE.
00:35:46I FIND THIS VERY, IN A WAY,
00:35:51TOUCHING BECAUSE BOTH WERE
00:35:53FATHERLESS BOYS, RAISED BY
00:35:55DEVOTED MOTHERS WHO GAVE THEM
00:35:59HOPE AND GAVE THEM A FEELING OF
00:36:03POSSIBILITY IN THEIR OWN LIVES.
00:36:08AND THEY BOTH HAD REMARKABLE
00:36:12JOURNEYS. AND THEY NEVER LOST THAT SENSE
00:36:15THAT HOPE WAS ONE OF THE REASONS
00:36:19THAT THEY ENDED UP WHERE THEY
00:36:24DID AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO OTHERS.
00:36:27FOR ME, IT IS NOT JUST THE NICE
00:36:29THING TO HAVE, IT IS NECESSARY.
00:36:35AND HOPE AND GRATITUDE TOGETHER CAN REALLY KEEP YOU GOING
00:36:39THROUGH A LOT OF CHALLENGE.
00:36:43SO, I HOPE VERY MUCH THAT OUR
00:36:46COUNTRY GETS BACK TO ITS SENSES
00:36:50AND THAT WE DECIDE WE ARE GOING
00:36:51TO START LIVING UP TO OUR IDEALS
00:36:56IN FURTHERANCE OF OUR BEST VALUES, AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO
00:36:59MAKE OUR CHILDREN PROUD BUT ALSO GIVE THEM THE FUTURE THAT NOT
00:37:04JUST THEY HOPE FOR BUT THAT WE CAN DELIVER.
00:37:07THAT'S HOW I KEEP GOING.
00:37:09[APPLAUSE]
00:37:13MICHAEL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:37:17PLEASE JOIN ME IN THANKING SECRETARY CLINTON FOR A VERY
00:37:19HOPEFUL MESSAGE.
00:37:21SEC. CLINTON: THE BEST.
00:37:24>> IT IS MY DISTINCTION TO CLOSE THIS EXTRAORDINARY EVENING WHICH
00:37:27BROUGHT US A CONVERSATION WORTHY
00:37:29OF OUR 250 YEARS AND A MEMORABLE
00:37:31GRAND FINALE TO THE
00:37:34HAMPTON'S INSTITUTE SUMMER SERIES.
00:37:37THANK YOU, MICHAEL FROMAN.
00:37:39THANK YOU, SECRETARY CLINTON.
00:37:43AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT AND FOR OUR SERIES.
00:37:46JUST REMEMBER TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU.
00:37:49[APPLAUSE]
00:37:57>> ON TUESDAY, ASTRONAUTS FROM
00:38:02NASA AND THEIR PIN SPACE AGENCY WILL COMPLETE THE SPACEWALK TO
00:38:06COMPLETE THE REPLACEMENT OF AN ANTENNA ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.
00:38:12WATCH LIVE ON CSPAN3, C-SPAN
00:38:15NOW, AND ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG.
00:38:19>> THE ROAD TO THE CAPITOL RUNS
00:38:24THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS ARE ON THE GROUND,
00:38:28FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGN COME OVER THE TOUGHEST RACES WILL DECIDE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN
00:38:32CONGRESS. WE ARE THE ONLY NATIONAL
00:38:35TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS
00:38:38TO THE CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS,
00:38:39AND ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN
00:38:432026. NO COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT TO THINK.
00:38:46THE ROAD TO THE CAPITOL, ONLY ON C-SPAN.
00:38:49>> PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE ABOUT
00:38:55EDUCATION POLICIES ALONGSIDE LINDA MCMAHON.
00:38:57HIS REMARKS RUN NEARLY HALF