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00:00:01MARQUETTE ABOUT EXPECTED TESTIMONY FROM DIRECTOR KASH
00:00:04PATEL APPEARING BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
00:00:07THEN THE LATEST ON THE IRAN.
00:00:09THE DEBATE OVER DEREGULATION AND
00:00:11DATA CENTERS AND CONGRESSIONAL NEWS OF THE WEEK WITH TEXAS
00:00:15DEMOCRATIC AL GREEN AND, THE CHAIR OF HUMANS.
00:00:18FIRST, AMY TALKS ABOUT HER NEW
00:00:22ORGANIZATION'S TO GIVE AMERICANS A SAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND
00:00:24EXPANSION OF AI.
00:00:26WASHINGTON JOURNAL STARTS
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00:00:39HOST: TODAY IS TUESDAY,
00:00:40SEPTEMBER 15TH, WELCOME TO "WASHINGTON JOURNAL".
00:00:43A LATE NIGHT RULING FROM THE
00:00:46SUPREME COURT REJECTED PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST EFFORTS TO
00:00:50ENACTED NEW MAIL-IN VOTING
00:00:52RESTRICTIONS AHEAD OF NOVEMBER'S ELECTION.
00:00:56IN KENTUCKY, MITCH MCDONNELL
00:00:59RETURNED TO CONGRESS AFTER A
00:01:01THREE MONTH ABSENCE TRIGGERING A
00:01:04NEW CONVERSATION ABOUT AGE AND HEALTH OF LAWMAKERS.
00:01:08AND THE DEBATE ABOUT A.I. RAGES ON.
00:01:12THOSE ARE SOME OF THE STORIES WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS MORNING.
00:01:15WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. WHAT IS YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE DAY?
00:01:19HERE'S HOW YOU JOIN ON THE
00:01:26CONVERSATION. DEMOCRATS 202-748-8000
00:01:29REPUBLICANS 202-748-8001 AND INDEPENDENTS 202-748-8002.
00:01:33YOU CAN ALSO REACH US BY TEXT
00:01:37MESSAGE AT 202-748-8003.
00:01:42INCLUDE YOUR FIRST NAME, CITY AND STATE, AND FIND US ON SOCIAL
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00:01:55INSTAGRAM CWG.
00:01:57THE DEBATE OVER ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE GUARDRAILS
00:02:01THAT SHOULD BE PLACED ON IT RAGES ON IN WASHINGTON D.C.
00:02:04CONTINUING WITH AN UNLIKELY PAIR.
00:02:07INDEPENDENT SENATOR BERNIE
00:02:09SANDERS AND FORMER TRUMP ADVISER
00:02:12STEVE BANNON ARE SET TO APPEAR
00:02:13AT A PRO-HUMAN A.I. CONFERENCE
00:02:17IN THE CAPITAL CITY AS PRESIDENT
00:02:20TRUMP TWEETED OVERNIGHT -- OR TRUTH SOCIAL, SLAMMING CRITICS
00:02:24OF A.I.. SAYING THE A.I. HOAX BEING
00:02:27PERPETRATED BY THE RADICAL LEFT
00:02:31DEMOCRATS IS REMINISCENT OF
00:02:35THEIR GLOBAL SCAM WHERE NOT SO LONG AGO EVERYONE IS GOING TO
00:02:39DIE FROM EXTREME HEAT. WHAT?
00:02:42MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. THAT WAS ONE OF SEVERAL TRUTH
00:02:46SOCIALS THAT THE PRESIDENT
00:02:49PUBLISHED LAST NIGHT. NOW, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN RAILING
00:02:52AGAINST A.I. CALLING FOR A SLOW
00:02:55DOWN HERE AS SENATE MINORITY
00:02:59LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER SAYING CONGRESS NEEDS TO ACT.
00:03:02>> MAY -- ON THE WARNING OF A.I.
00:03:13HAS NEVER BEEN CLEARER BUT WHAT IS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RESPONSE TO
00:03:18REGULATE A.I.? TRUMP SAYS THE ONLY CONTROL OR
00:03:22GUARDRAILS THAT A.I. NEEDS IS A
00:03:24STRONG AND SMART HIGH IQ PRESIDENT.
00:03:27WELL, EVEN IF WE HAD A HIGH IQ
00:03:30PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, AND WE SURELY DON'T, IT WOULDN'T BE
00:03:34ENOUGH. CONGRESS CANNOT AFFORD TO TURN A
00:03:38BLIND EYE TO A.I.
00:03:41TODAY I AM CALLING FOR AN ALL
00:03:45SENATORS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING WITH TOP ADMINISTRATION
00:03:48OFFICIALS TO ADDRESS THE DANGERS
00:03:50OF UNCHECKED A.I. DEVELOPMENT
00:03:53AND HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE FOR ITS LACK OF
00:03:56ACTION TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
00:03:59I'VE LONG ARGUED WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE U.S. REMAIN THE
00:04:02GLOBAL LEADER IN INNOVATION AND
00:04:06SECURITY. WE ALL KNOW THE TRANSFORMATIONAL
00:04:10INNOVATION THAT CAN COME FROM A.I. FOR ADVANCES IN MEDICINE,
00:04:14SCIENCE, EDUCATION, RESEARCH, AND SO MUCH MORE.
00:04:17BUT I'VE ALSO ALWAYS SAID THAT
00:04:20IF OUR ECONOMY AND SOCIETY IS TO
00:04:23REAP THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF
00:04:25A.I. WE NEED SUSTAINABLE
00:04:30INNOVATION AS WELL. THAT MEANS PUTTING GUARDRAILS IN
00:04:32TO MITIGATE THE RISKS OF THIS
00:04:35TECHNOLOGY AND EARN THE PUBLIC'S TRUST, WHICH IS CRITICAL TO
00:04:38AMERICAN LEADERSHIP. IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THE
00:04:41IMPORTANCE OF THESE STRONG GUARDRAILS HAVE BECOME MORE
00:04:45APPARENT. JUST THIS WEEKEND LEADING VOICES FROM THE A.I. INDUSTRY CAME
00:04:49TOGETHER TO SOUND THE ALARM AND
00:04:51EMBRACE A SLOWER DEVELOPMENT OF
00:04:53A.I. TO AVOID DAMAGING OUTCOMES.
00:04:55THIS COMES AFTER WEEKS OF REVELATION OF A.I. GOING ROGUE
00:04:59AND WORKING TOGETHER TO HACK
00:05:01WEBSITES WITHOUT HUMAN CONTROL.
00:05:04AND OF REAL CONCERNS OF THE
00:05:08POTENTIAL CATASTROPHIC RISKS OF UNCHECKED A.I.
00:05:12HOST: THAT WAS SENATE DEMOCRATIC LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER
00:05:15TALKING ABOUT THE NEED, HE
00:05:17BELIEVES FOR CONGRESS TO STEP IN
00:05:21AND SET GUARDRAILS AROUND
00:05:25ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. WE'RE ASKING WHAT YOUR TOP NEWS
00:05:28STORY OF THE DAY IS, HAMILTON FROM YORK, PENNSYLVANIA, AN
00:05:32INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING WHAT'S YOUR TOP
00:05:33NEWS STORY OF THE DAY?
00:05:38CALLER: GOOD MORNING, JW ON A
00:05:40HIGH NOTE, HOW ABOUT THOSE BEARS THIS WEEKEND.
00:05:42HOST: DON'T GET ME EXCITED.
00:05:44>> CALLER: I WAS SAYING THAT.
00:05:47MINE IS A.I. AND THE FACT THAT
00:05:51IT COULD DESTROY THE WORLD AND
00:05:54WHO DO WE HAVE DEFENDING IT?
00:06:00THE MOST, OUR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WHO SEEMS TO HAVE
00:06:03INVESTED IN A.I. AND THE TECH
00:06:07BROS.
00:06:09HE CAN'T BE AN OBJECTIVE PERSON
00:06:13ON THIS THING, AND THIS THING
00:06:16COULD AFFECT ALL OF US IF IT GETS OUT OF THE BOX.
00:06:20HE'S GOT A MEETING WITH PING
00:06:23FROM CHINA AND IT COULD GO VERY, VERY BAD.
00:06:27HE'S USING CHINA AS A SCAPEGOAT
00:06:30AGAIN WHEN WE SHOULD CONNECT WITH CHINA AND PUT A CAP ON THIS
00:06:34THING AND PUT A CAP ON IT FAST
00:06:36BECAUSE IF WE DON'T -- HEY, IT
00:06:38COULD GO VERY, VERY BAD.
00:06:41HAVE A GREAT DAY, AMERICA.
00:06:43AND THANKS JW FOR BEING PRETTY
00:06:46THIS MORNING. HOST: THAT'S HAMILTON FROMWORK,
00:06:50PENNSYLVANIA. IT'S NOT JUST DEMOCRATS SAYING MORE GUARDRAILS SHOULD GO UP
00:06:53AROUND A.I., ALSO REPUBLICANS HAVE JOINED IN, TAKE A LISTEN TO
00:06:57HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON YESTERDAY IN CAPITOL HILL WHEN
00:07:00ASKED WHAT HIS CAUCUS SHOULD DO
00:07:03TO RESPOND TO THE GROWING CONVERSATION.
00:07:06>> CONGRESS, I THINK, HAS A ROLE, RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE
00:07:10PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING AND CREATING THESE PRODUCTS
00:07:13OBVIOUSLY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. THERE IS A CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY AND AN
00:07:17EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE SAFE PRODUCTS.
00:07:20YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
00:07:24DAYS. I'VE HAD AN OPINION AS WELL, AS
00:07:26YOU ALL KNOW WE BEGAN THE A.I. TASK FORCE, A BIPARTISAN WORKING
00:07:30GROUP ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER I BECAME SPEAKER I THINK IT WAS
00:07:33FEBRUARY OF '24, SO A FEW MONTHS AFTER I GOT THE GAVEL. THEY WORKED FOR A LONG, LONG
00:07:37TIME. WE HAD AN EQUAL NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ON THE
00:07:41COMMITTEE. THEY CAME UP WITH A REPORT, THEY
00:07:44HAVE IDEAS ON HOW TO DO IT. EACH OF THE A.I. PLATFORMS HAVE
00:07:48IDEAS, NONE OF THEM ARE CONSISTENT.
00:07:51REMEMBERING THE A.I. PLATFORMS
00:07:54ARE COMPETITORS AS WELL. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT
00:07:57THIS. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR EDGE OVER CHINA, THAT'S WHAT THE
00:08:01PRESIDENT IS LASER FOCUSED ON AND WE ARE AS WELL.
00:08:04AS IT IS SAID WHOEVER ACHIEVES
00:08:08AUTOMATED GENERAL INTELLIGENCE FIRST PROBABLY HAS AN EDGE OVER
00:08:11EVERYBODY AROUND THE WORLD -- >> BUT THE PRESIDENT -- >> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
00:08:15IF WE SLOW DOWN INNOVATION TOO
00:08:17MUCH, AMERICAN INNOVATION, WE LOSE THAT CRITICAL RACE.
00:08:21SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RUSHED INTO. WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT
00:08:25THIS, DELIBERATING IT, RESEARCHING IT, DISCUSSING IT
00:08:28FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AS YOU KNOW, I CALLED FOR A MEETING OF THE PLATFORM
00:08:32PROVIDERS. I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO SUMMON EVERYONE TOGETHER
00:08:35PROBABLY AT THE WHITE HOUSE, I EXPECT THAT HAPPENS AT THE END
00:08:38OF THIS WEEK, EARLY NEXT WEEK. THAT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET
00:08:42BUT THERE WILL BE A PROCESS. THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
00:08:46COMPANIES TO MAINTAIN SAFETY AND WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, THE FWOVT HAS
00:08:50TO PLAY IN THAT. , BUT AGAIN WE DID NOT WANT TO
00:08:53JUMP IN, THE REFLEX OF
00:08:56LEGISLATIVE BODIES IS COVER THINGS UP WITH RED TAPE AND
00:09:00HYPER LEGISLATION, IF YOU DO
00:09:02THAT, YOU LOSE YOUR EDGE AND
00:09:06THAT'S A CONCERN FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
00:09:08>> THE PRESIDENT SAID THERE
00:09:11SHOULD BE NO GUARDRAILS OTHER THAN HIMSELF. >> THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT
00:09:14THE PRESIDENT HAS WITH THE A.I. PROVIDERS AND US AS WE GATHER
00:09:18FOR THE MEETING. HOST: THAT WAS HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON PREVIEWING A
00:09:21MEETING WITH THE EXECUTIVES AND
00:09:25DISCUSSING WHAT THE REPUBLICANS
00:09:27SHOULD DO WITH REGARD TO
00:09:29GUARDRAILS AROUND A.I. AND TECH COMPANIES.
00:09:32CARL FROM AUGUSTA, MAINE, GOOD
00:09:35MORNING WHAT'S YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE DAY?
00:09:39CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH ROBOCALLS AND
00:09:43MAKING PURCHASES OVER THE
00:09:45INTERNET AND USING A CREDIT CARD
00:09:48AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EXPERIENCING ROBOCALLS ALL HOURS
00:09:51OF THE DAY AND NIGHT FROM PEOPLE
00:09:53WANTING TO COLLECT MONEY OR
00:09:56DONATIONS OR -- DOESN'T THE
00:10:00AMERICAN PUBLIC RECOGNIZE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A.I. IS
00:10:04CONSTANT BARRAGE OF HARASSMENT
00:10:07PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY?
00:10:10I RECEIVE PROBABLY 10 TO 2521 --
00:10:15I RECEIVE PROBABLY 10 TO 12 PHONE CALLS A DAY, AND A LOT OF
00:10:19TIMES I DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE CALLS.
00:10:23I BLAME SPECTRUM FOR PART OF
00:10:25THAT BECAUSE ONCE ANY PURCHASE
00:10:29IS MADE OVER THE INTERNET OR ON
00:10:34PHONE CALL, A PHONE CALL APPEARS
00:10:37EVERY HOUR OR TWO HOURS WITH
00:10:39REGARD TO RECENT PURCHASES ON THE CREDIT CARD.
00:10:42SO I HOPE EVERYBODY IS READY FOR THIS A.I. AND CAN UNDERSTAND
00:10:45THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
00:10:48YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE ROBOCALLS
00:10:50YOU RECEIVE, THEY'RE TRANSFERRED
00:10:52TO A CONTRACTOR IN ANOTHER
00:10:55COUNTRY SOMEWHERE TO RECEIVE OR
00:10:57TRY TO ATTAIN YOUR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.
00:11:01SO WE'RE CREATING OUR OWN MESS.
00:11:05I HAVE HAD A PERSONAL CELL
00:11:07PHONE, BUT I'M NOT HOOKED UP TO THE INTERNET.
00:11:10I'M NOT HOOKED UP TO ANY
00:11:13COMPUTER, FACEBOOK, AND THAT'S BEEN 40 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN
00:11:17PERFECTLY HAPPY. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOULD
00:11:20JUST PUT THEIR CELL PHONES DOWN FOR ONE DAY --
00:11:23HOST: ALL RIGHT, CARL, I HAVE TO JUMP IN HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE
00:11:27A GUEST READY TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING
00:11:29LATER ON TODAY. LATER ON TODAY ON CSPAN,
00:11:34ACTUALLY. WE WILL BE COVERING FBI DIRECTOR
00:11:37KASH PATEL ON CAPITOL HILL WHO WILL TESTIFY BEFORE THE SENATE
00:11:41JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND
00:11:44PRIORITIES YOU CAN WATCH THAT
00:11:47LIVE HERE ON CSPAN AT 9:00 A.M.
00:11:50EASTERN ON CSPAN, CSPAN 3 AND TO
00:11:53TALK ABOUT THAT WITH US WE HAVE
00:11:56CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER FROM POLITICO CHRIS MARQUETTE.
00:11:59THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING.
00:12:01GUEST: THANKS FOR HAVING ME. HOST: SO KASH PATEL IS TESTIFYING THIS MORNING BEFORE
00:12:05THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. WHAT'S THE ON AGENDA AND WHY
00:12:09NOW? >> WE'RE EXPECTING DEMOCRATS TO
00:12:12DIG INTO WHAT THEY SEE AS THE
00:12:15WEAPONIZATION OF THE FBI, ELECTION INTERFERENCE EFFORTS.
00:12:18WHAT THEY SEE AS A LACK OF
00:12:21I.C.E. PROSECUTIONS FOR BAD
00:12:24ACTORS FROM I.C.E. AGENTS, STAFFING ISSUES AMONG THE
00:12:28BUREAU.
00:12:29AND THE ARCTIC FROST
00:12:33INVESTIGATION, THAT JACK SMITH INVESTIGATION AND THE HANDLING OF THE EPSTEIN FILES.
00:12:37WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO SEE
00:12:40CHAIRMAN CHUCK GRASSLY, THE REPUBLICAN FROM IOWA AND A BUNCH
00:12:44OF HIS COLLEAGUES ON THE
00:12:47REPUBLICAN SIDE ARE GOING TO
00:12:49LOOK TO DEFEND THE FBI'S WORK
00:12:52AND HIGHLIGHT THE FBI'S
00:12:54SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO DRIVE A
00:12:57HISTORIC DROP IN VIOLENT CRIME
00:12:59AND SUPPORT WHISTLEBLOWERS A
00:13:03GRASSLY SPOKESPERSON TOLD US. AND HE'S ALSO LOOKING TO BUILD
00:13:07ON HIS OVERSIGHT THAT GRASSLEY
00:13:09HAS CONDUCTED, EXPOSING HOW DISCREDITED LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
00:13:13INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS HAVE WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES TO
00:13:16TARGET AND SMEAR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS OVER THE PAST DECADE.
00:13:20AND THAT'S WHAT A GRASSLY
00:13:23SPOKESPERSON TOLD US. SO WE'LL SEE A LOT OF DEMOCRATS
00:13:27ATTACKING THE JOB THAT KASH PATEL HAS DONE SO FAR LEADING
00:13:30THE FBI AND REPUBLICANS LOOKING TO KIND OF JUMP IN AND SAY, HEY,
00:13:33HE'S ACTUALLY DOING A GOOD JOB.
00:13:37HOST: I WANT TO DIG IN ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN A SECOND BUT
00:13:40FIRST, DEMOCRATS HAVE, YOU KNOW,
00:13:42ACCUSED AND PATEL IS FACING
00:13:44SCRUTINY RIGHT NOW OVER HIS
00:13:46TRIPS, ALLEGEDLY MISUSING AGENCY RESOURCES.
00:13:49REMIND OUR VIEWERS WHAT EXACTLY IS AT ISSUE HERE.
00:13:53GUEST: YEAH, SO THERE WERE A
00:13:55LOT OF NEWS REPORTS ABOUT HIM
00:13:59TRAVELING ON THE FBI DIME TO,
00:14:03YOU KNOW, PARTY WITH THE USA
00:14:06HOCKEY TEAM. HE WAS FILMED SLUGGING BEERS
00:14:10WITH THE TEAM AFTER ONE OF THEIR WINS.
00:14:13YOU KNOW, JETTING OFF TO FOLLOW
00:14:18THE PERFORMANCES OF HIS GIRLFRIEND WHO'S A COUNTRY MUSIC
00:14:22MUSICIAN AND A BUNCH OF
00:14:26DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE JET AND, YOU KNOW, ALLEGATIONS OF
00:14:30MISSPENDING OFFICIAL RESOURCES.
00:14:32AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT SENATOR
00:14:37DICK DURBIN, THE RANKING MEMBER
00:14:40ON THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND HIS COLLEAGUES ARE
00:14:44LOOKING TO DIG INTO. A SPOKESPERSON FOR DURBIN TOLD
00:14:48US THEY'RE LOOKING TO HOLD
00:14:50DIRECTOR PATEL ACCOUNTABLE FOR
00:14:52HIS FAILED LEADERSHIP AND THAT
00:14:55INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THE MISUSE
00:14:57OF FBI RESOURCES, THE JET INSTANCES I MENTIONED AND
00:15:01ALLEGATIONS OF DRINKING ON THE JOB, WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN
00:15:04PUBLIC REPORTS OF.
00:15:06HOST: DEMOCRATS HAVE STARTED TO PREVIEW SOME OF THE
00:15:10INVESTIGATIONS THEY PLAN TO LAUNCH SHOULD THEY RETAKE THE HOUSE COME NOVEMBER.
00:15:13SO STARTING IN JANUARY. SHOULD VIEWERS BE WATCHING THIS
00:15:17HEARING BELIEVING THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THINGS THAT PERHAPS
00:15:20COULD COME IF DEMOCRATS WERE SUCCESSFUL IN NOVEMBER?
00:15:23GUEST: YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT
00:15:27I THINK DEMOCRATS ARE THINKING,
00:15:29THEY'RE SEEMING A LOT MORE
00:15:32BULLISH ON THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE
00:15:34THE HOUSE AND, AS YOU MENTIONED,
00:15:37INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO, ROBERT GARCIA IS
00:15:41EXPECTED TO TAKE THE GAVEL IF
00:15:43THEY DO FLIP THE HOUSE ON HOUSE
00:15:47OVERSIGHT AND JAMIE RASKIN ON JUDICIARY.
00:15:51AND A BIG FOCUS FOR THEM IS
00:15:53TRUMP FAMILY CORRUPTION.
00:15:55AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
00:15:58DEFINITELY FOCUSED ON THE WAY IN
00:16:00WHICH THEIR AGENCY LEADERS ARE
00:16:03MISUSING FUNDS.
00:16:05I'M SURE KASH PATEL WILL COME UP
00:16:07IN THE -- IN THE AREA OF WHAT
00:16:12RASKIN AND GARCIA ARE LOOKING TO
00:16:15INVESTIGATE FOR SURE.
00:16:16HOST: NOW, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID
00:16:19THAT CHUCK GRASSLY LEADERSHIP
00:16:23THERE, A REPUBLICAN IS GOING TO TRY TO PROP UP PATEL AND THE JOB
00:16:27HE'S DONE AT THE FBI BUT WHAT
00:16:29OTHER REPUBLICANS SHOULD WE BE LOOKING OUT FOR WHEN IT COMES TO
00:16:32THIS HEARING?
00:16:38>>. GUEST: I THINK A PERSON ON THE PANEL WHO'S PARTICULARLY
00:16:41ELOQUENT AND HE'S GOOD IN
00:16:43HEARINGS, HE'S CHARISMATIC, JOSH HAWLEY.
00:16:47HE ALWAYS BRINGS A LEVEL OF
00:16:49ENTHUSIASM AND DEFINITELY WHEN
00:16:52HE SPEAKS, YOU DEFINITELY PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE WAY
00:16:55THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S A TALENTED
00:16:58LITIGATOR, USED TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR MISSOURI AND IS
00:17:03TALENTED IN THAT WAY.
00:17:05ERIC SCHMIDT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW,
00:17:08PRETTY VOICEFUL ON THE -- ON THE
00:17:10REPUBLICAN SIDE AS WELL AND THEN
00:17:13KATY BRIT.
00:17:15HOST: NOW, SEPARATELY,
00:17:17PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ALLY JOE
00:17:23DIGINOVA RESIGNED ON FRIDAY,
00:17:27WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED? GUEST: I THINK THAT'S PART OF A
00:17:31LARGER ISSUE WITH THE FBI THAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING
00:17:35INTO. AND THAT VERY WELL COULD COME UP
00:17:38IN THE HEARING.
00:17:40I TALKED TO SENATOR RICHARD
00:17:43BLUMENTHAL, WHO'S A DEMOCRAT
00:17:44FROM CONNECTICUT ALSO ON THE
00:17:49JUDICIARY PANEL AND HE SAID HE
00:17:50WANTS TO FOCUS ON HOW KASH PATEL
00:17:55DISBANDED LAW ENFORCEMENT BY
00:17:57DISBANDING UNITS AND ALSO FIRING
00:18:01AGENTS IN RETRIBUTION FOR THEIR INVESTIGATING TRUMP.
00:18:05SO YOU CAN EXPECT THAT TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION TODAY.
00:18:07THE DEMOCRATS WILL DEFINITELY BE
00:18:11VERY FOCUSED ON ANY ISSUES LIKE
00:18:15THAT. HOST: CHRIS MARQUETTE CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER FROM
00:18:19POLITICO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU.
00:18:22HOST: AND AGAIN TODAY, THE FBI
00:18:27DIRECTOR IS ON CAPITOL HILL WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH CHRIS
00:18:30THERE, TO TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND PRIORITIES.
00:18:32YOU CAN WATCH THAT HEARING LIVE
00:18:34AT 9:00 A.M. EASTERN ON CSPAN 3 RIGHT AFTER THIS PROGRAM.
00:18:38SO BACK TO THE QUESTION OF THE MORNING, WHICH IS WHAT IS YOUR
00:18:42TOP NEWS STORY? ALREADY TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT
00:18:44A.I. AND NOW KASH PATEL.
00:18:46KIM, FROM CHAMPAGNE, ILLINOIS, A
00:18:50DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, KIM.
00:18:53CALLER: HI, GOOD MORNING, JASMINE. YOU HAD A LOT OF INTERESTING
00:18:57COMMENTS. I'M A HUGE SPORTS FAN BUT IN THE
00:19:00MIDDLE OF THIS, I HEAR THE
00:19:03WHISTLEBLOWERS TALKING ABOUT THE A.I., THAT'S THE NEXT BIG THING
00:19:07IT CAN PERHAPS DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE.
00:19:10WE HAVE GAS PRICES AT ALL-TIME
00:19:12HIGHS, DIESEL PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS HIGH.
00:19:15PAYING MORE FOR EVERYTHING. PAYING MORE FOR EVERYTHING.
00:19:20RENT, HEALTH CARE, AND WATCHING
00:19:22ESPN AND WHAT DO I SEE, TED CRUZ
00:19:27ON TV ON COLLEGE GAME DAY, LOBBYING FOR THE SAVE COLLEGE
00:19:31SPORTS ACT.
00:19:32GIVE ME A BREAK.
00:19:36WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SAVING THE NCAA AND BIG
00:19:38BOOSTERS?
00:19:42BECAUSE THEY ARE UPSET THAT
00:19:43STUDENTS ARE -- HAVE AGENTS --
00:19:50SAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ACT GET A GRIP ON.
00:19:54I'M SO SICK OF THEIR -- IF WE
00:19:56DON'T GET IT NOW, IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR
00:20:00POLITICIANS ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BIG BUSINESSES AND SYSTEMS
00:20:03THAN THEY ARE ABOUT HELPING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WAKE UP,
00:20:07EVERYBODY. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US.
00:20:09THEY'RE OKAY WITH US -- BRINGING
00:20:12US TO HEEL PAYING ALL THESE HIGH PRICES FOR EVERYTHING.
00:20:15THIS IS RIDICULOUS, AND THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.
00:20:17THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT
00:20:19SAVING SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS
00:20:22LIKE THE NCAA AND BIG COLLEGE DONORS THAN HELPING THE
00:20:25AMERICANS WITH THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.
00:20:28THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
00:20:32HOST: THAT'S KIM FROM
00:20:35CHAMPAGNE, ILLINOIS, A DEMOCRAT.
00:20:37ANOTHER STORY WE'RE WATCHING
00:20:39THIS WEEK, AS CONGRESS IS BACK,
00:20:42IS FROM AXIOS, THE HEADLINE IS
00:20:46HOUSE TEES UP PREELECTION VOTE
00:20:49ON CURBING DATA CENTER BILLS.
00:20:51BEAR WITH ME, IT SAYS THE HOUSE
00:20:55REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP WILL BRING UP THE PROTECTION ACT,
00:20:58BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION AIMED AT
00:21:02PREVENTING DATA CENTERS FROM DRIVING UP AMERICANS'
00:21:06ELECTRICITY BILLS. SAYING REPUBLICANS WANT TO SHOI
00:21:10VOTERS THEY'RE -- EXCUSE ME, REPUBLICANS WANT TO SHOW VOTERS
00:21:14THAT TAKING RISING ELECTRIC BILLS AND THE MASSIVE POWER
00:21:18DEMANDS OF POWER CENTERS THEY'RE TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY.
00:21:22THEY'VE BEEN HAMMERED OVER HIGH ENERGY PRICES.
00:21:26A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BILL. IT WOULD REQUIRE STATE UTILITY
00:21:29REGULATORS TO ENSURE RULES THAT
00:21:32DATA CENTERS RECOVER THE FULL
00:21:34COST OF ENERGY UPGRADES AND THE
00:21:37SHIFT WOULD SHIELD LOCAL PAYERS'
00:21:41BILLS FROM HIKES ACCORDING TO
00:21:43THE BILL'S SPONSOR. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPECT
00:21:47THIS WEEK. JENNIFER FROM LAS VEGAS, GOOD
00:21:50MORNING, WHAT'S YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE DAY? CALLER: GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
00:21:54I WANTED TO REFERENCE TWO CALLERS CALLED YESTERDAY
00:21:57REGARDING THIS -- YOU KNOW, THE
00:21:59A.I. AND HOW IT'S HAPPENING AND COMING TRUE.
00:22:02THEY MENTIONED A MOVIE BACK IN
00:22:061969, 1970 CALLED "COLLASUS, THE
00:22:15FORBIN PROJECT".
00:22:17WHAT'S SCARY ABOUT IT BESIDES THAT MOVIE BEING REALISTIC OF
00:22:21WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY WITH THE
00:22:23DATA CENTERS AND A.I. IS THAT
00:22:27ELON MUSK NAMED HIS A.I. SUPER
00:22:31COMPUTER COLLASUS AND IN MAY HIM
00:22:37AND HIS RIVAL ANTHROPIC PARTNERS
00:22:40ON THIS KOE -- COLLASUS PROJECT.
00:22:50IT'S SCARY. THESE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING A JOKE ON YOU US OR GOVERNMENT OR
00:22:54CONGRESS, BUT THESE GUYS, WE ARE THE JOKE.
00:22:57THE JOKE IS ON US REALLY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PLAYING
00:23:01GAMES OR WHAT. HOST: THAT'S JENNIFER FROM LAS
00:23:04VEGAS, AN INDEPENDENT. NOW, ON SOCIAL MEDIA WE HAVE
00:23:07SOME COMMENTS THIS MORNING ABOUT TOP NEWS STORIES.
00:23:11RONNY SAYS JUST MORE PROOF THAT
00:23:14THE TRUMP FAMILY IS IN BED WITH RUSSIA.
00:23:17ONE OF PUTIN'S CLOSEST OLIGARCH
00:23:20FRIENDS PAYS FOR DON JUNIOR'S
00:23:22WEDDING AND NOBODY CARES THAT
00:23:24THEY VIOLATE THE MAGNITSKY ACT.
00:23:32THAT'S ONE COMMENT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. BOB FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, A
00:23:36DEMOCRAT. HOW ARE YOU?
00:23:40CALLER: GOOD HOW ARE YOU.
00:23:43MINE IS GLOBAL WARMING.
00:23:46I WAS IN EIGHTH GRADE AND I HAD A SCIENCE TEACHER THAT TAUGHT US
00:23:50WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN YEARS FROM NOW. HE EXPLAINED IT LIKE THIS, OUR
00:23:54WORLD IS ON A MAGNETIC HOLD. AND WHEN THAT MAGNETIC HOLD
00:23:57CHANGES, IT'S GOING TO PULL US SOMEWHERE.
00:24:00SO BASICALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING --
00:24:02SAID BACK THEN AND THAT WAS LIKE
00:24:05IN THE '70S. WHEN THE CARS WERE BEING BUILT
00:24:09AND THE TRUCKS BEING BUILT IN
00:24:10THE '20S, '30S, '40S, YOU
00:24:15WEREN'T DOING THAT MUCH WITH THE GAS.
00:24:18NOW MY HOUSE TO A MAIN ROAD THAT HAS THREE LIGHTS.
00:24:22I STILL GET THERE IN THREE
00:24:24MINUTES NOW SIX OR SEVEN MINUTES
00:24:27WITH ALL THE CARS OR TRAFFIC.
00:24:28HE ALSO SAID WHEN YOU'RE -- WHEN
00:24:31YOU'RE BUILDING NOW, BACK
00:24:33THEN -- WHEN YOU'RE CUTTING DOWN
00:24:37THE TREES -- THE MORE WE GONNA
00:24:40GROW, GROW -- HE DID SAY WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD BECAUSE THE
00:24:43TREES AND THE PLANTS IS WHAT MAKES US BREATHE, OKAY.
00:24:47HELPS US BREATHE.
00:24:49NOW, GOING BACK TO THE GLOBAL
00:24:52WARMING ALSO, IT'S LIKE THIS. EVERYTHING THAT'S BUILT ON THIS
00:24:56WORLD, OUR WORLD, COMES FROM THIS WORLD.
00:24:59NO MATTER WHAT A TRUCK IS, CAR
00:25:02IS, SKY SCRAPERS, WE'RE NOT
00:25:04GOING TO JAPAN -- I MEAN
00:25:06JUPITER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO
00:25:09MARS, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING
00:25:12FROM OUR PLANET -- HOST: THAT'S BOB FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, DEMOCRAT.
00:25:16SOMETHING RELATED TODAY WHAT HE
00:25:19SAID, IS FROM THE "WASHINGTON
00:25:22POST" THAT TRUMP'S EPA IS ENDING
00:25:25ONE OF THE NATION'S BIGGEST CLIMATE PROTECTIONS IN ONE OF
00:25:29THE LARGEST DEREGULATORY
00:25:32ANNOUNCEMENTS IN U.S. HISTORY.
00:25:34KENNY FROM KENTUCKY, A
00:25:37REPUBLICAN.
00:25:39I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BE QUICK
00:25:41BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO TO BREAK.
00:25:44CALLER: DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL? DO THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO
00:25:48WIN EVERY RACE. THEY NEED TO WAKE UP. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.
00:25:52HOST: THAT'S KENNY FROM KENTUCKY, A REPUBLICAN.
00:25:55LATER ON THIS MORNING ON "WASHINGTON JOURNAL", A
00:25:58CONVERSATION WITH AMY KREMER,
00:26:02CURRENT RNC COMMITTEE WOMAN
00:26:06ABOUT HER NEW PUSH TO REGULATE A.I.. BUT FIRST AL GREEN WILL BE HERE
00:26:10TO TALK ABOUT HIS PRIORITIES AND THE FINAL DAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE
00:26:13BREAKS FOR NOVEMBER MIDTERMS.
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00:27:15>> WE HAVE TO LISTEN SO WE CAN GOVERN BETTER.
00:27:18>> DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON HEAVY DOSES OF CIVILITY.
00:27:21>> YOU CAN FIGHT AND STILL BE FRIENDLY. >> BRIDGING THE DIVIDE IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
00:27:25>> YOU MAY NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING BUT YOU CAN FIND
00:27:28AREAS YOU DO AGREE. >> HE'S A LIKABLE GUY.
00:27:31>> CHRIS COONS AND I ARE
00:27:35ACTUALLY FRIENDS. >> THE HORRIBLE SCOOTER IS WE
00:27:38RESPECT EACH OTHER. >> WE DON'T HATE EACH OTHER.
00:27:41>> YOU LIKE EACH OTHER, THESE
00:27:44ARE THE SECRETS WE LIKE TO EXPOSE.
00:27:47>> YOU GUYS DID AGREE TO THE CIVILITY.
00:27:50>> HE OWES MY SON FROM A BET --
00:27:56>> THAT'S FIGHTING WORDS.
00:27:58>> I'M THRILLED TO BE ON A SHOW WITH HIM.
00:28:02>> THERE ARE NOT SHOWS LIKE THIS
00:28:05INCENTIVIZING THAT RELATIONSHIP.
00:28:06>> CEASE-FIRE FRIDAY NIGHTS ON
00:28:10CSPAN. >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. HOST: WITH US NOW TO TALK ABOUT
00:28:14ALL THINGS CONGRESS IS DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN AL GREEN
00:28:18FROM TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. >> MY HONOR TO BE WITH YOU.
00:28:22LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROGRAM
00:28:24AND I'M GRATEFUL TO CSPAN FOR ALLOWING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO
00:28:28SAY THINGS THAT I CAN SAY NO PLACE ELSE.
00:28:31HOST: WE LOVE TO HEAR THAT. LET'S START WITH THE BIGGEST NEWS.
00:28:34YESTERDAY YOU ANNOUNCED YOU
00:28:37INTEND TO FORCE A VOTE ON
00:28:40IMPEACHING PRESIDENT TRUMP, CITING THE KILLING BY
00:28:43IMMIGRATION OFFICERS OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS EARLIER THIS YEAR.
00:28:47WHERE DOES THAT STAND?
00:28:49GUEST: ACTUALLY FOUR CITIZENS,
00:28:55ONE WAS IN HOUSTON, THAT STANDS
00:29:00AT A POINT WHERE I SHOULD MAKE
00:29:02AN ANNOUNCEMENT RIGHT NOW.
00:29:04AT ABOUT 1:00 TODAY, I'LL BE IN
00:29:07THE CONGRESS, I'LL BE ON THE FLOOR.
00:29:09AND THE SPEAKER HAS INDICATED THAT SOMETIME AROUND 1:15 WE
00:29:13WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE. THIS WOULD GIVE CONGRESS AN
00:29:16OPPORTUNITY TO GO ON RECORD AND DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO
00:29:20DECIDE WITH THE VICTIMS OF THESE
00:29:23I.C.E. KILLINGS OR ARE YOU GOING
00:29:26TO SIDE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND
00:29:30THE RUTHLESS RECKLESS BEHAVIOR
00:29:33AND THE I.C.E. OFFICERS. WE HAVE SEEN FOUR PEOPLE KILLED.
00:29:37I MENTIONED TWO, THE OTHER TWO
00:29:39ARE ALEX PETTY AND RENEE GOOD.
00:29:42BOTH OF THEM KILLED BY I.C.E. OFFICERS.
00:29:45BOTH OF THESE WERE KILLINGS THAT WERE NOT JUSTIFIED.
00:29:49UNJUSTIFIED KILLINGS. AND THE PRESIDENT HAS SOUGHT TO
00:29:52COVER THESE UP BY SUPPORTING THE KILLINGS BEFORE THERE WAS AN
00:29:56INVESTIGATION PROCLAIMING THE PEOPLE TO BE TERRORISTS, TO BE
00:29:59PERSONS WHO WERE OUT OF CONTROL, NOT BEHAVING.
00:30:03SOMEHOW ASSAULTING OFFICERS,
00:30:04TRYING TO RAM THEIR CARS INTO
00:30:07OFFICERS OR OFFICERS' VEHICLES.
00:30:09THE PRESIDENT IS ENGAGED IN A
00:30:12COVERUP, THE I.C.E. OFFICERS ARE THE PERSONS WHO ARE TAKING THE
00:30:16LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS, THEY'RE KILLING PEOPLE, AND
00:30:19THEY'RE DOING IT AS JUDGE, JURY,
00:30:22EXECUTIONER, PROSECUTOR.
00:30:24WE CAN'T ALLOW THIS.
00:30:27HOST: CONGRESSMAN LET ME JUMP IN HERE, THAT VOTE WILL HAPPEN
00:30:31ABOUT 1:00, 1:15, THE FOLKS WATCHING THE HOUSE FLOOR THERE.
00:30:35YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO PUT PEOPLE ON RECORD.
00:30:38BUT IT'S NOT JUST REPUBLICANS
00:30:40IT'S DEMOCRATS YOU'LL PUT ON RECORDS.
00:30:43AXIOS REPORTS YOU ARE FACING
00:30:46SWIFT AND INTENSE ANGER FROM YOUR DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES OVER
00:30:49THIS EFFORT TO BRING UP THE
00:30:53IMPEACHMENT VOTE, SOMETHING LEADERSHIP SAID THEY DON'T WANT
00:30:55TO DO AT THE MOMENT.
00:30:57WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO YOUR OWN PARTY?
00:31:00GUEST: I'LL GIVE YOU THAT RESPONSE BUT I WANT TO FINISH THIS COMMENT.
00:31:04THIS BEHAVIOR BY I.C.E. IS SOMETHING WE CANNOT TOLERATE.
00:31:08WE CANNOT ALLOW IT TO BE NORMALIZED. THE KILLING OF AMERICAN
00:31:12CITIZENS.
00:31:13I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALEX PETTY AS AN EXAMPLE.
00:31:17HE WAS ON THE GROUND, UNARMED,
00:31:21THERE WERE OFFICERS AROUND HIM. HE WAS SHOT MORE THAN NINE TIMES
00:31:24ON THE GROUND UNARMED.
00:31:27HE WAS SHOT ON JANUARY 24, 2026,
00:31:30RENEE GOOD JANUARY 7, 2026, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
00:31:33THOSE CASES. ALL OF THIS TIME NO
00:31:37TRANSPARENCY. THE PRESIDENT HAS A DUTY TO MAKE
00:31:40SURE THAT THE LAWS ARE FOLLOWED APPROPRIATELY.
00:31:43HE TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.
00:31:46HE IS NOT DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION, HE'S RIPPING IT UP.
00:31:50NOW TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CHOOSE TO MAKE THEMSELVES AN ISSUE.
00:31:54THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THESE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN
00:31:58AXIOS. THEY'RE MAKING THEMSELVES AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERALLY
00:32:02SAYING THIS IS AN INCONVENIENCE,
00:32:04WHY INCONVENIENCE US AT THIS TIME WHEN WE COULD BE DOING
00:32:08SOMETHING ELSE WHEN WE KNOW THAT CONGRESS DOES MULTIPLE THINGS ALL THE TIME.
00:32:12WE'RE GOING TO IK TA UP A WAR
00:32:14POWERS RESOLUTION, DEALING WITH OTHER ISSUES OF IMPORTANCE.
00:32:17THIS IS ACCOUNTABILITY, AFFORDABILITY IS IMPORTANT --
00:32:21HOST: THE LARGER DEMOCRATS'
00:32:23POINT IS IT MUDDLES THE MIDTERM
00:32:27MESSAGE. GUEST: IF YOU WANT IT TO. DOES LIFE AND DEATH COUNT?
00:32:31HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE WE WILL CONCLUDE THAT
00:32:34THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WE'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE IT.
00:32:39MY COLLEAGUES HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE THEMSELVES AN ISSUE BECAUSE
00:32:43THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS SO
00:32:46INCONVENIENT FOR US WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS VOTE?
00:32:49IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH. BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
00:32:53MORE PEOPLE MAY DIE. WHEN THEY DO, THE BLOOD WILL BE
00:32:56ON THEIR HANDS WHEN THEY VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION TODAY.
00:33:00DEMOCRATS HAVE STOOD FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BUT THERE ARE SOME WANTING TO
00:33:04MAKE THEMSELVES AN ISSUE BY SIDING WITH THE PRESIDENT AND
00:33:07THE PEOPLE KILLING WITH
00:33:12IMPUNITY. HOST: YOU SAID, THE BLOOD WILL
00:33:14BE ON YOUR COLLEAGUE'S HANDS.
00:33:17HOST: GUEST: AND REPUBLICANS TOO.
00:33:20HOST: VOTING ON IRAN, YOU SAW
00:33:23MOST OF YOUR FELLOW DEMOCRATS INCLUDING ALL DEMOCRATIC LEADERS
00:33:27SIDING WITH REPUBLICANS IN OPPOSITION.
00:33:30WHY ARE THEY WRONG ON THIS?
00:33:33GUEST: IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED THAT
00:33:37THEY WANT OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE OATH OF OFFICE.
00:33:41WE SAID WE WOULD DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THAT'S WHAT I DO.
00:33:43BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THIS.
00:33:45IF WE CAN ONLY VOTE WHEN WE WIN,
00:33:48SOME OF US WOULDN'T BE IN
00:33:50CONGRESS IF WE TOOK UP THAT
00:33:53ATTITUDE OR HAD ROSA PARKS TAKEN THAT ATTITUDE.
00:33:56ROSA PARKS TOOK A SEAT IN A RACIST PUBLIC TOWN BY HERSELF
00:34:00KNOWING SHE WOULD LIKELY GO TO JAIL.
00:34:03SHE DIDN'T THINK SHE WAS GOING TO END SEGREGATION THAT NIGHT,
00:34:07BUT SHE FOUGHT.
00:34:08JOHN LEWIS WENT TO THE EDMUND
00:34:12PETTUS BRIDGE BRIDGE, WE WERE
00:34:15FRIENDS HE TOLD ME HE THOUGHT HE
00:34:16WAS GOING TO DIE THAT DAY.
00:34:19BECAUSE HE WAS THERE ON BLOODY
00:34:22SUNDAY, BECAUSE A PRESIDENT PASSED THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT,
00:34:26MANY OF US SAYING THIS ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, THERE WERE
00:34:30PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO WOULDN'T
00:34:32BE HERE IF WE WAITED TILL WE COULD WIN.
00:34:37WE CAN'T ALWAYS WIN BUT SOME OF
00:34:39US HAVE TO FIGHT. THERE IS ONE CONGRESS PERSON
00:34:43THAT I'M AWARE OF WHO SAID IF WE
00:34:45CAN GET THE VOTES I'LL VOTE FOR IT. HOST: WHO IS THAT?
00:34:48GUEST: I DON'T HAVE TO CALL HIS NAME.
00:34:50IF HE DECIDES TO REVEAL HIMSELF I WILL. IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED.
00:34:54YOU CAN DO THE RESEARCH.
00:34:57BUT HE IS SAYING THAT HE'S THE
00:35:00BENEFICIARY, THIS IS A PERSON OF COLOR, BENEFICIARY OF JOHN LEWIS
00:35:03AND THE SUFFERING AT THE EDMUND
00:35:07PETTUS BRIDGE.
00:35:10THIS IS PERFORMATIVE, IT'S STRATEGIC TO DO NOTHING, I'M NOT
00:35:14A STRATEGIC GUY WHO DOES NOTHING WHEN WE HAVE IMPEACHMENT AVAILABLE TOWS.
00:35:18I ASSURE YOU I WILL BE THERE FOR THIS VOTE.
00:35:21THIS VOTE WILL BE TAKEN AND I
00:35:23WARN YOU MY DEAR BROTHERS AND
00:35:27SISTERS, REPUBLICANS AND
00:35:29DEMOCRATS, YOU VOTE WITH THIS,
00:35:32VOTE WITH COVERING UP THE DEATH
00:35:35OF FOUR PEOPLE, AND AGAINST THE VICTIMS AND THE FAMILIES,
00:35:39HISTORY IS NOT GOING TO BE KIND TO YOU AND THE PEOPLE ARE NOT
00:35:42GOING TO BE KIND TO YOU. THIS IS A SIMILAR VOTE IN YOUR
00:35:46CAREER. LET YOUR RECORD REFLECT WHEN YOU
00:35:49HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE TO
00:35:52IMPEACH THIS RECKLESS, RUTHLESS
00:35:54PRESIDENT THAT'S WHAT YOU DID. HOST: SAY YOUR VOTE WAS
00:35:57SUCCESSFUL AND THE PRESIDENT WAS IMPEACHED IN THE HOUSE. THAT REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS
00:36:01MAJORITY IN THE SENATE TO CONVICT. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WILL HAPPEN?
00:36:04REPUBLICAN ARE IN CONTROL OF THE SENATE RIGHT NOW.
00:36:07GUEST: IF YOU'RE ABOUT ONLY
00:36:09WINNING VOTES THEN YOU PROBABLY
00:36:11SHOULDN'T BE IN CONGRESS --
00:36:15HOST: WINNING VOTES LEADS TO IMPEACHMENT.
00:36:18GUEST: BUT ALSO IMPEACHMENT DETERS ACTION. WHEN THE PRESIDENT SEES WE'RE
00:36:22WILLING TO VOTE AND TAKE ACTION AGAINST IT, IT CAN DETER HIM AND
00:36:26THE OFFICERS HE HOPES TO PARDON
00:36:29IF THEY'RE EVER CONVICTED IN A FEDERAL COURT.
00:36:33HE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT IF
00:36:35THEY ARE CONVICTED IN A FEDERAL COURT, HE WILL GIVE THEM A
00:36:39PARDON JUST AS HE DID THOSE PERSONS WHO COMMITTED THE
00:36:43INSURRECTION AGAINST THE CAPITOL. HE GAVE THEM PARDONS HE'S
00:36:47SENDING THAT MESSAGE TO THEM. YES, IT COULD GO TO SENATE AND
00:36:51THE SENATE COULD LIKELY NOT IMPEACH OR THEY COULD.
00:36:54WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY VOTE.
00:36:56WHAT YOU'RE SAYING -- I DON'T
00:36:58THINK YOU'RE SAYING TO BE PROVOCATIVE. I THINK YOU'RE BEING A GOOD
00:37:02REPORTER, I APPRECIATE IT. I WANT THE CHALLENGING QUESTION.
00:37:05WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF YOU CAN'T WIN, DON'T FIGHT.
00:37:08THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S ABOUT. WE'LL HAVE VOTES IN CONGRESS
00:37:11THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE AND WE DO THIS REGULARLY.
00:37:14IT TOOK US ALMOST 100 YEARS TO
00:37:17GET OBAMA CARE PASSED BUT WE DIDN'T STOP. WE'RE FIGHTING RIGHT NOW SO
00:37:21LABOR HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM MANAGEMENT.
00:37:25WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP. WE TAKE VOTES ALL THE TIME.
00:37:28BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS VOTE, MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO
00:37:31VOTE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT
00:37:33BECAUSE THEY GET THIS CRYPTO
00:37:37CONTRIBUTIONS. THE CRYPTO INDUSTRY IS OWNING AND OPERATING A GOOD MEMBER -- A
00:37:41GOOD NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RIGHT NOW.
00:37:44THEY ARE IN THE POCKETS OF THE CRYPTO INDUSTRY AND THEY CAN'T
00:37:48TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE THE
00:37:50CRYPTO INDUSTRY IS GOING TO
00:37:55PROTECT THEM BECAUSE HE IS MAKING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THEM.
00:37:59JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY AND YOU'LL
00:38:01UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE VOTE THE WAY THEY DO.
00:38:04HOST: FOR FOLKS VIEWING WE'LL
00:38:08BE TAKING CALLS IN A MOMENT.
00:38:24GUEST: THE PEOPLE IN THOSE ARTICLES THEY DON'T HAVE THE
00:38:28CUTS, THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDES
00:38:31TO GIVE THEIR NAMES WHO ARE
00:38:35THOSE POLITICIANS?
00:38:38WHO WILL STAND BEHIND -- STAND
00:38:40BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND SAY THESE THINGS.
00:38:42IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO ALLOW YOUR NAME TO BE ASSOCIATED
00:38:46WITH YOUR WORDS YOU OUGHT NOT BE IN CONGRESS.
00:38:49THIS IS NOT A POSITION FOR THE
00:38:52TIMID FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HIDE AND SAY THINGS.
00:38:56IF YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU'RE
00:38:57SAYING, SPEAK LOUDLY, OPENLY, AND PUBLICALLY.
00:39:00HOST: YOU'RE REFERENCING THE
00:39:02PEOPLE CRITICIZING YOUR IMPEACHMENT VOTE.
00:39:06GUEST: THEY'RE CRITICIZING IMPEACHMENT.
00:39:09THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT, THEY DON'T WANT TO
00:39:12VOTE FOR A LOT OF REASONS, AMONG
00:39:15THEM PROTECTING DONALD TRUMP. HOST: LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE
00:39:18THERE'S A GREAT REPORT OUT FROM
00:39:22CNN, THE DEMOCRATS EYE A NEW TOOL TO HOLD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE
00:39:26IF THEY WIN THE HOUSE AND LAY OUT A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT
00:39:29HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING TO
00:39:31PREPARE IF THEY WERE TO WIN THE NERM ELECTIONS AND WIN BACK THE
00:39:36HOUSE COME NOVEMBER.
00:39:38I WONDER, WHAT ADVANTAGES DOES
00:39:43IMPEACHMENT HAVE OVER AN INVESTIGATORY APPROACH AND WHY
00:39:46DO YOU CHOOSE IMPEACHMENT? GUEST: CHOOSE IT BECAUSE I
00:39:50RAISED MY RIGHT HAND WHEN I
00:39:52ARRIVED IN CONGRESS AND I SWORE
00:39:54TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE
00:39:58CONSTITUTION. THE CONSTITUTION AFFORDS
00:40:00IMPEACHMENT AS A REMEDY FOR A
00:40:03PRESIDENT COMMITTING IMPEACHABLE
00:40:07DEFENSES. NONE OF THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, BUT ESPECIALLY NONE
00:40:10OF THE DEMOCRATS ARE DENYING
00:40:13HE'S COMMITTING IMPEACHMENT OFFENSES.
00:40:17THEY'RE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON IT. BECAUSE IF I VOTE I'LL BE ON
00:40:20RECORD AND I'LL BE ON RECORD AGAINST TRUMP.
00:40:23IF I'M ON RECORD AGAINST TRUMP
00:40:25AND I'M TAKING CRYPTO MONEY I
00:40:27HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE
00:40:30CRYPTO INDUSTRY IS BACKING TRUMP 1,000%.
00:40:33IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD, SEE WHO'S GETTING THE CRYPTO MONEY
00:40:37IN CONGRESS. HOST: RICHARD FROM SAVANNAH
00:40:40GEORGIA, A REPUBLICAN.
00:40:44GOOD MORNING, RICHARD. GUEST: GOOD MORNING. YOU SAY YOU CARE ABOUT THE
00:40:48PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND DEFENDING THEM WITH THE CONSTITUTION, BUT
00:40:51FOR FOUR YEARS WE WATCHED THE
00:40:53DEMOCRATS WITH OPEN BORDERS LET
00:40:56ABOUT 30 MILLION ILLEGALS COME
00:40:58IN AND WE HAD JOCELYN, A
00:41:0212-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN YOUR
00:41:04DISTRICT IN HOUSTON GET RAPED AND MURDERED AND YOU DIDN'T CARE
00:41:07ABOUT HER, TALK ABOUT HER, GO TO
00:41:10HER FUNERAL OR ANYTHING.
00:41:17WHY SHOULDN'T THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, JOE BIDEN, YOU,
00:41:20BE ARRESTED FOR ACCESSORIES TO
00:41:26RAPE AND MURDER AS FAR AS THE INNOCENT WOMEN RAPED AND
00:41:29MURDERED BY ILLEGALS AND ALSO THE TRUCKS COMING DOWN THE ROAD
00:41:33BY ILLEGALS THAT YOU LET IN KILL
00:41:37INNOCENT PEOPLE?
00:41:38ONE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY
00:41:42THANK GOD FOR ONE BLACK MAN
00:41:45JUROR WITH THE CLANCY TRIAL.
00:41:47THANK YOU, SIR, FOR STANDING UP
00:41:50TO THOSE THREE CHILDREN. GUEST: ANYONE WHO COMMITS A
00:41:53CRIME OUGHT TO BE PROSECUTED. IF THEY'RE CONVICTED, THEY OUGHT
00:41:56TO GO TO JAIL. IN THE CASE OF THE PRESIDENT, WE
00:41:59CAN'T PROSECUTE HIM RIGHT NOW.
00:42:02BUT WE CAN IMPEACH HIM. WE CAN IMPEACH HIM AND LATER ON
00:42:05HE CAN BE PROSECUTED BUT WE CAN
00:42:09IMPEACH HIM. THE SUPREME COURT HAS GIVEN THE
00:42:12PRESIDENT ALMOST ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY.
00:42:15THEY HAVEN'T, BUT HE HAS ASSUMED
00:42:17THE AUTHORITARIAN POSITION AND
00:42:20THAT IS HE HAS ABSOLUTE
00:42:24IMMUNITY. ANYONE WHO COMMITS A CRIME OUGHT TO BE CONVICTED, THE PRESIDENT
00:42:28CAN BE IMPEACHED. I TELL YOU, ANYBODY WHO COMMITS
00:42:32A CRIME, WHETHER YOU'RE ILLEGAL OR LEGAL, YOU OUGHT TO BE
00:42:35PROSECUTED AND YOU OUGHT TO BE CONVICTED.
00:42:37I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE RAPING PEOPLE AND IT'S PROVEN YOU DID
00:42:41IT, YOU OUGHT TO BE PUNISHED TO THE EXTENT THE LAW ALLOWS.
00:42:45I'M NOT A PERSON WHO SUPPORTS ANY OF THAT.
00:42:48I REGRET THAT YOU WOULD ASSUME
00:42:50THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE THE
00:42:53PRESIDENT NOT BE ABOVE THE LAW THAT SOMEHOW I WOULD HAVE OTHER
00:42:56PEOPLE BE ABOVE THE LAW. NO ONE SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW
00:43:00OF THE COUNTRY, THAT INCLUDES THE PRESIDENT AND THAT'S WHY I'M
00:43:03DOING WHAT I'M DOING.
00:43:04AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE NOT DENYING
00:43:07HE'S COMMITTING IMPEACHABLE
00:43:08OFFENSES THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO
00:43:11GET INVOLVED IN THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
00:43:14HOST: ON THE ISSUE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, WHO SHOULD BE
00:43:18RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS COMMITTED BY UNDOCUMENTED
00:43:21MIGRANTS WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, IF THEY CAME
00:43:25IN UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?
00:43:30GUEST: THE PEOPLE WHO COMMIT CRIMES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CRIMES.
00:43:33THAT'S ALWAYS BE THE CASE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
00:43:36I'M TOTALLY FOR THAT. PROSECUTE PEOPLE WHO COMMIT
00:43:40CRIMES, PUT THEM IN JAIL. BY THE WAY, I'M NOT FOR HAVING A
00:43:44RAPIST SENT SOME OTHER PLACE.
00:43:47IF YOU COMMIT RAPE IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU OUGHT TO GO TO JAIL
00:43:50IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU OUGHT TO STAY IN HAD JAIL. THAT'S WHAT I'M FOR.
00:43:53I'M FOR PROSECUTING CRIMINALS.
00:43:57YES.
00:43:58HOST: VICKY FROM NEBRASKA, A
00:44:02DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, VICKY.
00:44:04CALLER: GOOD MORNING, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
00:44:06HOST: YES, YOU'RE ON.
00:44:11CALLER: YOU ARE MY FAVORITE HOSTS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO,
00:44:15MR. AL GREEN. YOU AND JASMINE CROCKETT ARE MY
00:44:18FAVORITE POLITICIANS. YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE
00:44:22EMPATHY, YOU'RE FAIR AND YES, I
00:44:25THINK THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE IMPEACHED.
00:44:28I DON'T SEE HOW HE EVER GOT INTO OFFICE WITH ALL OF HIS
00:44:31CONVICTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME,
00:44:36MR. GREEN, TO COME OUT AND NOT BE AFRAID.
00:44:39I HAVE A BAG AND A T-SHIRT THAT
00:44:42SAYS BLACK LIVES MATTER AND IT
00:44:45ALSO SAYS, BE KIND, OUR
00:44:48PRESIDENT SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND YES, I HAVE BEEN IN STORES,
00:44:51I'VE BEEN FLIPPED OFF, I'VE BEEN
00:44:53YELLED AT AND HAD MAGA PEOPLE
00:44:55NOT EVEN WEIGHT ON ME WHEN I WAS
00:44:59PURCHASING SOMETHING BUT I FEEL SO GOOD WHEN I LEAVE BECAUSE I
00:45:02KNOW GOD IS WATCHING OVER ME AND
00:45:05YES, NEBRASKA SUCKS BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF REPUBLICANS
00:45:08TRYING TO GET RID OF OUR
00:45:11DEMOCRATIC MAYOR BY THEIR LITTLE TRICKS AND WE REALLY HAVE TO
00:45:15FIGHT HARD HERE BECAUSE IT'S -- WE HAVE A LOT OF CHEATERS.
00:45:18AND IT'S REALLY SAD RIGHT NOW.
00:45:21I'M 65 AND I'VE LIVED ALL MY
00:45:23LIFE AND, WO WORKED HARD, AND
00:45:27NOW MY RETIREMENT I HAVE TO PUT
00:45:29UP WITH THIS SCUM BAG.
00:45:32THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU.
00:45:35I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU,
00:45:36KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, SAY HI
00:45:39TO JASMINE CROCKETT FOR ME, I LOVE HER.
00:45:43THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.
00:45:46GOD BLESS YOU ON THE VOTE TODAY
00:45:49FOR IMPEACHMENT.
00:45:51I'M SAYING MY PRAYER. I'M BIG INTO PRAYER.
00:45:54AND I'M HOPING YOU CAN PULL IT OFF.
00:45:59GUEST: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO SPEAK UP.
00:46:02THE DEMOCRATS WHO CHOOSE TO VOTE WITH THE REPUBLICANS TO PREVENT
00:46:06THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT FROM
00:46:08BEING IMPEACHED FOR CRIMES THAT
00:46:11ARE IMPEACHABLE, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY A PRICE FOR THAT.
00:46:14HISTORY IS NOT GOING TO BE KIND AND PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO
00:46:18REWARD YOU FOR TAKING THAT POSITION. AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO
00:46:21ARE GOING TO DO THIS.
00:46:23THEY KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT IS
00:46:26COMMITTING IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS VOTE TO
00:46:30IMPEACH THIS IS NOT ASKING YOU
00:46:33SIT IN A BUS LIKE ROSA PARKS
00:46:35DID, OR CROSS THE EDMUND PETTUS
00:46:41BRIDGE. THIS ONLY REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO PUT YOUR CARD IN
00:46:44THE TERMINAL AND VOTE TO IMPEACH.
00:46:48DON'T VOTE TO SEND IT TO COMMITTEE. DON'T VOTE TO TABLE.
00:46:51THOSE TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO PUT YOU WITH THE REPUBLICANS WHO
00:46:54ARE PROTECTING THE PRESIDENT. YOU WILL BE PROTECTING THE
00:46:57PRESIDENT AND YOU'RE NOT GOING -- YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET IT.
00:47:01I WARN YOU, YOU WILL REGRET IT. HOST: I WANT TO CHANGE THE
00:47:05SUBJECT QUICKLY TO SOMETHING ELSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS
00:47:09MORNING. A.I. YOU TALKED ABOUT CRYPTO. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE
00:47:13RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND WARNINGS AND IMPACT THAT A.I. COULD HAVE
00:47:16AND THE CALLS FROM DEMOCRATS AND
00:47:19REPUBLICANS FOR A SLOW DOWN ON
00:47:22A.I., ARE THE CONCERNS OVERBLOWN? DO YOU HAVE THEM YOURSELF?
00:47:26WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO?
00:47:29GUEST: FIRST THING CONGRESS SHOULD DO IS SAY TO THE
00:47:31PRESIDENT, IT'S NOT A HOAX. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
00:47:35STATES WHO KNOWS VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT, IS TELLING THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT.
00:47:39THE PEOPLE HAVING A HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH IT, IT'S A HOAX.
00:47:42WE SHOULD TELL THE PRESIDENT, SIR YOU ARE WRONG.
00:47:45I SAY SIR TO BE KIND. I SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE
00:47:49PRESIDENT, I'M UNBOSSED AND UNAFRAID.
00:47:52I SPEAK DIRECTLY TO HIM.
00:47:54I SENT A LETTER TO HIM YESTERDAY
00:47:57SAYING THERE WOULD BE A VOTE TO IMPEACH HIM.
00:48:00HOST: DID YOU RECEIVE A RESPONSE? GUEST: NO HE DOESN'T HAVE THE
00:48:04COURAGE TO RESPOND. HE ONLY FIGHTS WHEN HE CAN WIN. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
00:48:08AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SOME
00:48:09DEMOCRATS LIKE THAT NOW.
00:48:13>> BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU ABOUT
00:48:16A.I., THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. PEOPLE HAVING A HANDS ON
00:48:19EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ARE SAYING YES, IT'S ABOUT CHINA, BUT ALSO
00:48:23IT'S ABOUT AN ENTITY THAT CAN AT
00:48:26SOME POINT BECOME SO SMART THAT
00:48:29IT CAN CONCLUDE THAT IT SHOULD
00:48:31NOT CEASE TO EXIST AND IT CAN
00:48:34CONCLUDE THAT IN ITS DEFENSE IT HAS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
00:48:38AND THOSE THINGS CAN BE HARMFUL TO US.
00:48:40AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO
00:48:44ARE HAVING THE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE. YES, WE NEED TO REGULATE WHAT'S GOING ON.
00:48:48WE HAVE TO DO SO.
00:48:50THIS IS A MANDATE FOR CONGRESS.
00:48:52THIS IS WHY WE EXIST TO PROTECT
00:48:54THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY
00:48:57FROM SOMETHING THAT, ACCORDING
00:48:59TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO
00:49:01KNOW, CAN WIPE OUT 10 TO 20% OF
00:49:03HUMAN KIND IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WITHIN YOUR LIFETIME.
00:49:07SO YES, WE SHOULD BE REGULATING IT.
00:49:09AND YES, WE OUGHT TO STAY RIGHT
00:49:12HERE IN WASHINGTON D.C. AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
00:49:15WE'RE ABOUT TO LEAVE AND NOT COME BACK UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
00:49:19WE SHOULD STAY HERE AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, INCLUDING
00:49:22DEALING WITH A.I., THERE'S A WAR POWERS RESOLUTION COMING UP.
00:49:26NOBODY IS COMPLAINING ABOUT TAKING THIS VOTE ON WAR POWERS,
00:49:29NOBODY WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT A.I. BUT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS
00:49:32SAYING TO THE PRESIDENT, YOU
00:49:34CAN'T CONDONE THE KILLING OF
00:49:38INNOCENT PEOPLE, THESE PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT, WE HAVE NORMALIZED
00:49:41IT SUCH THAT WE WOULD WALK AWAY
00:49:43FROM THESE DEAD LIVES.
00:49:46THESE PEOPLE, ONE MAN ON HIS WAY
00:49:48TO WORK, ANOTHER PERSON DRIVING IN HER CAR.
00:49:52ALEX PETTI IS THE PERFECT CASE
00:49:56TO CALL AGAIN, ON THE GROUND,
00:50:00UNARMED, SHOT NINE TIMES YOU
00:50:03CAN'T GET AN INDICTMENT?
00:50:05THAT'S A COVER UP. MR. PRESIDENT YOU SHOULD BE
00:50:09IMPEACHED. I WILL STAND ALONE AND BRING
00:50:13THIS ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT
00:50:16TODAY. HOST: JOHN FROM NEW ORLEANS, AN INDEPENDENT.
00:50:20GOOD MORNING. GUEST: GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
00:50:24ABOUT INFLATION BECAUSE INFLATION IS REALLY BAD RIGHT NOW AND THE ECONOMY WAS BAD
00:50:28UNDER BIDEN IN MY OPINION. AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GETTING ANY BETTER.
00:50:31SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO CONGRESS ABOUT
00:50:34INFLATION --
00:50:40GUEST: WHAT? HOST: KEN FROM WASHINGTON D.C.
00:50:43AN INDEPENDENT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, THANKS
00:50:46FOR TAKING MY CALL. ELDER GREEN, REPRESENTATIVE
00:50:50GREEN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK
00:50:51THAT YOU'VE DONE, I ADMIRE THE
00:50:54WORK YOU'VE DONE. AND AT TIMES IT SEEMS LIKE
00:50:57YOU'RE ALONE SOMETIMES ON THE
00:51:00HILL. REPRESENTING PARTICULARLY OUR
00:51:03INTEREST AS MEN AND WOMEN OF
00:51:05COLOR SO I CONTINUALLY SALUTE
00:51:08THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. PART OF THE QUESTION I HAVE, WE'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT A
00:51:12CALLER MENTIONED TO YOU SOMETHING ABOUT MIGRANTS DOING CRIME.
00:51:16WE KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT TRUMP IS DOING AT THE SMITHSONIAN.
00:51:20YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY, IF YOU WANT TO TALK
00:51:24ABOUT RAPE AND MURDER AND OPPRESSION, YOU CAN START THERE
00:51:28WITH THE ACTUAL U.S. HISTORY OF
00:51:30PEOPLE THAT, OF COURSE, LIVED HERE.
00:51:32AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE
00:51:35PHILLIP JOYNER, 1868 WHEN HE AND
00:51:40HUNDREDS OF FREE BLACK MEN AND
00:51:42WOMEN MARCHED IN SOUTHWESTERN
00:51:45GEORGIA TO JUST USE THEIR CIVIC DUTY TO GET THEIR RIGHTS AFTER
00:51:49THEY WERE TAKEN FROM THEM. AND THEY WERE MASSACRED, THEY WERE KILLED.
00:51:53THESE ARE TRUTHFUL THINGS THAT I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT A LOT
00:51:57OF CALLERS DON'T.
00:51:59BUT MY QUESTION IS -- IS
00:52:02TWOFOLD, ONE I'M DISAPPOINTED AT
00:52:04THE TEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS,
00:52:07YOUR PARTY MEMBERS THAT VOTED TO
00:52:08CENSURE YOU WHEN YOU STOOD UP
00:52:12LIKE A BLACK MAN WITH CONVICTION DOES IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:52:15THAT -- AND SO I GUESS MY
00:52:18QUESTION BECOMES, WHY CAN WE NOT
00:52:22MOTIVATE NOT JUST THE REPUBLICANS, BUT EVEN THE
00:52:25DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR FOR
00:52:27PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT HAVE
00:52:30INHERITED THE DISCRIMINATION OF
00:52:32RACISM THAT THIS NATION HAS PRODUCED.
00:52:35WHY IS THERE NO BUREAU OF FREE
00:52:38AFFAIRS OF SOME SORT OF
00:52:41RECLAMATION BUREAU FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THIS COUNTRY?
00:52:45IF I CRITICIZE THE WRONG NATION
00:52:47THEY CONTINUALLY GET THE SUPPORT AND THEY ARE AS RACIST AS ANY
00:52:51OTHER COUNTRY IN THIS NATION. AGAIN I SALUTE YOU AND I
00:52:54APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
00:52:56KEEP UP THE GREAT JOB.
00:52:59GUEST: I HAVE LEGISLATION
00:53:00CALLING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:53:05RECONCILIATION, TO DEAL WITH THE
00:53:06ISSUE OF ENSLAVMENT OF AFRICAN
00:53:10AMERICANS FOR MORE THAN 240
00:53:12YEARS THESE PEOPLE PLANTED THE
00:53:15SEEDS, CROPS, HAND A HAND IN BUILDING THE WHITE HOUSE, THE
00:53:19CAPITOL. THEY ARE THE ECONOMIC FOUNDATION
00:53:21OF MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE BEEN
00:53:24TREATED LIKE THROW AWAYS LIKE THEIR LIVES DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
00:53:28THEY SHOULD BE HONORED AND
00:53:30RESPECTED JUST AS WE HAVE
00:53:35HONORED CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS, WE
00:53:36SHOULD ACCORD THE ENSLAVED TOO.
00:53:40WE RECOGNIZE 9/11 AND SHOULD COMMEMORATE IT.
00:53:44WE RECOGNIZE PEARL HARBOR AND SHOULD COMMEMORATE IT.
00:53:47WE RECOGNIZE THE HOLOCAUST AND
00:53:51COMMEMORATE IT. IF WE CAN RECOGNIZE ALL OF THOSE
00:53:55WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ENSLAVEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY.
00:53:58IT'S EASY TO LOOK INTO THE WINDOW OF LIFE AND SEE WHAT
00:54:01HAPPENED IN NAZI JOURNEY AND
00:54:03CRITICIZE WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM
00:54:07BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO LOOK AND SEE THE DEED IMPOSED ON PEOPLE
00:54:11IN THIS COUNTRY FOR MORE THAN
00:54:13240 YEARS. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR
00:54:17WORK BE RECOGNIZED AND BE
00:54:21COMMEMORATED FOR THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO MAKE AMERICA THE COUNTRY IT IS.
00:54:25HOST: DOC FROM PORTLAND,
00:54:29OREGON, AN INDEPENDENT.
00:54:31YOU'RE ON, DOC.
00:54:33CALLER: I HAVE A QUESTION. LOOKING TO THE DECEMBER REMOVAL
00:54:37OF THE DEBT CEILING. I NOTICED THAT THERE'S
00:54:41INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEBTS TO PENNY DATA.
00:54:45WE REACHED 40 TRILLION DOLLAR IN DEBT.
00:54:47I'M WONDERING WHAT THE PLAN IS
00:54:49TO DEAL WITH THAT WHEN IT COULD
00:54:53ROUND UP AN ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL
00:55:08PLAYERS. GUEST: HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS,
00:55:10REPUBLICANS GO ON A BIG SPENDING
00:55:13SPREE AND WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE ABOUT TO TAKE THE WHITE HOUSE,
00:55:17THE GOVERNMENT, HOUSE, SENATE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY BECOME
00:55:20PERSONS CALLING FOR AUSTERITY,
00:55:22THEY NO LONGER WANT SPENDING, THEY WANT CUTS.
00:55:25THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T BREAK THE BANK AS IT WERE.
00:55:29WE DON'T PUT THE COUNTRY INTO DEBT SUCH THAT WE CAN'T COVER
00:55:32OUR BILLS. THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS FIND THEMSELVES COMING IN TO CLEAN UP
00:55:36THE REPUBLICAN MESS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN NOW.
00:55:39DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL, THEY
00:55:42HAVE TO NOW CLEAN UP ALL OF
00:55:44THESE VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE REPUGNANT THAT THE
00:55:47REPUBLICANS HAVE PUT IN MOTION. CLEAN UP THE WAR THAT THE -- THE
00:55:51WAR OF CHOICE THAT THE PRESIDENT
00:55:53CHOSE TO GET HIMSELF INTO.
00:55:55CLEAN UP THE TARIFFS THAT THE
00:55:58PRESIDENT IMPOSED THAT WERE PASSED ON TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
00:56:02OURS BECOME THE CLEANUP CREW,
00:56:06THEY BECOME THE WRECKING CREW.
00:56:09WE CLEAN IT UP, THEY COME IN, GO
00:56:12ON A SPENDING SPREE, TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THESE
00:56:16THINGS. I'M FOR CLEANING UP, BUT I'M
00:56:18ALSO FOR TAKING CARE OF HEALTH
00:56:21CARE, FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
00:56:24CAN BUY FOOD, HAVE CLOTHING AND SHELTER.
00:56:27I'M FOR AFFORDABILITY.
00:56:29BUT I'M FOR AFFORDABILITY NOT TO
00:56:31THE EXCLUSION OF ACCOUNTABILITY. PEOPLE HAVE TO BE HELD
00:56:35ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS.
00:56:37WE CAN HAVE AFFORDABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
00:56:41WE CANNOT ALLOW FOUR PEOPLE TO BE KILLED IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES
00:56:45WE SAW WITH OUR VERY OWN EYES IN A COUPLE OF OF THESE CASES SAW
00:56:49THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND DIDN'T DO NOTHING AND ALLOWED THE
00:56:52PRESIDENT TO SAY, WELL, IF THEY
00:56:55ARE CONVICTED WE'LL GIVE HIM A PARDON.
00:56:57HOST: WE'RE OUT OF TIME BUT SINCE YOU SERVE ON THE FINANCIAL
00:57:01SERVICES COMMITTEE WHICH HAS OVERSIGHT OF THE FEDERAL
00:57:04RESERVE, THEY'RE MEETING THIS WEEK, DO YOU BELIEVE THEY SHOULD
00:57:06RAISE INTEREST RATES?
00:57:09GUEST: I THINK WE HAVE TO BE
00:57:12MEASURED ABOUT THIS.
00:57:14IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WHEN YOUR
00:57:18ECONOMY IS OVER HEATING, YOU
00:57:20HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO COOL IT.
00:57:24THAT IS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT IS DONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO SEE
00:57:28THEM RAISE THE INTEREST RATES TO
00:57:31A POSITION SUCH THAT YOU GO TO A
00:57:35POINT WHERE WE CANNOT AFFORD
00:57:36SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
00:57:40NECESSARY, AFFORD MORTGAGES AND THAT SORT OF THING BECAUSE WHEN
00:57:44YOU RAISE INTEREST RATES YOU IMPACT THESE THINGS.
00:57:46BUT I CAN SEE THEM RAISING INTEREST RATES A BIT TO SIGNAL
00:57:50THEY WANT TO COOL THE ECONOMY AND MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE LOWER
00:57:54INTEREST RATES IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE
00:57:57TO BE ABLE TO BUY HOMES. HOST: WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
00:58:01I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME.
00:58:04GUEST: INVITE ME BACK AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AXIOS ARTICLE HAVE THEM SIT HERE WITH ME.
00:58:08LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE AIR. HAVE ALL OF THEM COME.
00:58:12I'LL DEBATE ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME.
00:58:14HOST: WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT.
00:58:19CONGRESSMAN AL GREEN FROM TEXAS, A DEMOCRAT.
00:58:22THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. AND UP NEXT A CONVERSATION WITH
00:58:25AMY KREMER, ABOUT HER NEW PUSH TO REGULATE A.I. AND SLOW THE
00:58:29EXPANSION OF DATA CENTERS NATIONWIDE.
00:58:31STAY WITH US.
00:58:47>> YOU'RE WATCHING CSPAN.
00:58:50DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED.
00:58:55>> CSPAN BRINGS YOU DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED IN REAL TIME.
00:59:00DEMOCRACY DOESN'T TAKE SIDES. NEITHER DOES CSPAN.
00:59:03IN A WORLD FULL OF OPINIONS,
00:59:05CSPAN GIVES YOU DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE AND INSTITUTIONS THAT
00:59:09SHAPE OUR NATION. UNFILTERED COVERAGE OF CONGRESS
00:59:12AS LAWS ARE DEBATED AND DECIDED.
00:59:15LIVE PROCEEDING FROM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT,
00:59:18PRESIDENTIAL SPEECHES, BRIEFINGS AND HISTORIC MOMENTS AS THEY
00:59:22HAPPEN. NO COMMENTARY, NO SPIN, NO AGENDA.
00:59:26JUST THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, PRESENTED IN FULL WITHOUT
00:59:29INTERRUPTION, SO YOU CAN WATCH THE DEBATES, HEAR EVERY WORD AND
00:59:33MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.
00:59:35>> CSPAN'S RESPECTED NONPROFIT
00:59:38SERVICE HAS OFFERED AMERICANS
00:59:43UNFILTERED GAVEL-TO-GAVEL COVERAGE OF THEIR GOVERNMENT IN ACTION.
00:59:47>> CSPAN BRINGING YOU DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED.
00:59:50CSPAN IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE CABLE, SATELLITE AND STREAMING
00:59:54COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE CSPAN AS A PUBLIC SERVICE.
00:59:57>> THE ROAD TO THE CAPITAL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND
01:00:01STATES AND CSPAN IS THERE, OUR
01:00:03CAMERAS ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE
01:00:07THE TOUGHEST RACES FIND THE BALANCE OF POWER IN CONGRESS.
01:00:10WE'RE THE ONLY TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF
01:00:14UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE
01:00:16CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS AND THE
01:00:18ISSUES FACING 2026, NO
01:00:20COMMENTERS TELLING YOU WHAT TO
01:00:23THINK, NO PARTISAN SPIN, THE ROAD TO THE CAPITAL ONLY ON
01:00:27CSPAN. >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. HOST: HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
01:00:30CONVERSATION
01:00:33HOST: HUMAN FIRST CHAIR AMY KREMER IS HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING.
01:00:37GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.
01:00:40HOST: WE'LL GET TO QUESTIONS IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT FIRST I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT HIGHWAY YOU GOT TO THIS PLACE.
01:00:44LAST NIGHT I READ THIS ARTICLE FROM "THE WASHINGTON POST," A GREAT ARTICLE THAT TALKED ABOUT
01:00:48YOUR NEW EFFORT OVER THE SUMMER.
01:00:53SHE SAYS THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN, BUT SEES A NEW THREAT IN
01:00:56TECH BILLIONAIRES' POWER. IT GOES ON TO SAY IN THE HOURS
01:00:59BEFORE A VIOLENT MOB DESCENDED ON THE U.S. CAPITOL, AMY KREMER
01:01:03LED A RALLY NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE CALLING ON CONGRESS TO OVERTURN
01:01:07PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S DECEIT IN THE 2020 ELECTION. FIVE YEARS HOUSE REPORT, KREMER
01:01:11STILLLESS THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN, BUT THESE DAYS SHE HAS A
01:01:13NEW TARGET, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE COMPANIES.
01:01:16TELL US HOW YOU GOT HERE. GUEST: WELL, I GOT HERE BY
01:01:19PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I SAW BACK IN THE
01:01:23FALL OF 2024 THE DATA CENTER
01:01:27FIGHTS POPPING UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY. EVERYBODY KEPT SAYING THESE ARE LOCAL ISSUES, AND THERE WAS
01:01:32SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT REMINDED ME OF THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT
01:01:35BACK IN AUGUST OF 2009, WHEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WERE HAVING
01:01:38THEIR TOWN HALLS AND PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET AND ANGRY.
01:01:42AND IT CONTINUED TO GROW. PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO
01:01:45GO AWAY, AND IT HAS NOT. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE NOW.
01:01:48AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE VERY
01:01:50CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THEN WHEN I CONNECTED DATA CENTERS TO A.I.
01:01:54AND LEARNED WHAT WAS HAPPENING
01:01:56TO CHILDREN AND THE MANIPULATION
01:01:59BY CHATBOTS AND CHILDREN TAKING THEIR OWN LIVES AND HARMING
01:02:02THEMSELVES, THAT'S WHEN I WAS
01:02:04LIKE, AS A MOM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME.
01:02:08OUR CHILDREN ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE, AND WE NEED TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR THEM.
01:02:12SO THAT'S HOW I GOT HERE. HOST: WHO WHO DO YOU WORK WITH
01:02:17AT HUMAN FIRST?
01:02:19GUEST: I WORK WITH A NUMBER OF CONSERVATIVES, AND WE ARE ALL IN
01:02:22ON THIS FIGHT. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT I'VE
01:02:25WORKED WITH IN THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, AND I'M EXCITED TO BE
01:02:28HERE WITH THEM.
01:02:30HOST: OUTSIDE OF KIND OF THE
01:02:32PUTTING TWO TOGETHER, THE DATA
01:02:34CENTERS AND THE A.I., I MEAN, DO
01:02:38YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE ROLE OF A.I.,
01:02:42PARTICULARLY AFTER WE'VE HEARD
01:02:43IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TECH
01:02:47COMPANIES OWNERS CALLING FOR MORE REGULATION, TALKING ABOUT
01:02:50THE ENTITY? GUEST: THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO ME.
01:02:53I THINK THE STORY IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC
01:02:56AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT. AS I'VE LEARNED MORE AND MOTHER
01:02:59ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY, IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THERE'S NO
01:03:03REGULATIONS AROUND IT WHATSOEVER. THERE'S MORE REGULATIONS AROUND
01:03:07A HOTDOG THAT YOU WOULD BUY FROM THE STREET VENDOR IN NEW YORK CITY THAN THERE ARE THE
01:03:11TECHNOLOGY. AND WHAT WE'RE LEARNING IS THAT
01:03:13THE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED BY
01:03:19BOKO HARAM, THE HOUTHIS, IN SHOOTINGS, FLORIDA STATE
01:03:22UNIVERSITY, THE SHOOTING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA EARLY THIS YEAR, AND THERE'S NOTICE
01:03:27REGULATIONS AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT THIS TOTE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR ANYBODY ELSE. THAT IS VERY CONCERNING.
01:03:31AND ALL AMERICANS SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
01:03:33HOST: WE WILL BE TAKING SOME PHONE CALLS. I'LL REMIND UP OF YOUR LINES.
01:03:37CALL IN AND ASK AMY SOME QUESTIONS.
01:03:40WE'RE TALKING A.I. THIS MORNING.
01:03:44DEMOCRATS, 202-748-8000.
01:03:48REPUBLICANS, 202-748-8001.
01:03:50INDEPENDENTS, 202-748-8002.
01:03:53START CALLING IN NOW SO YOU CAN GET IN TO SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.
01:03:56I'M LOOKING AT THIS GALLUP POLL
01:04:00THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN JULY,
01:04:02AMERICANS COOL TOWARD A.I.
01:04:04AND IT SHOWS THAT MORE AMERICANS
01:04:07BELIEVE THAT A.I. DOES MORE HARM THAN GOOD. IT ACTUALLY HAS AN INTERESTING
01:04:11GRAPHIC HERE SHOWING HOW THAT
01:04:14HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
01:04:16I WONDER, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE
01:04:19THAT NOW A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
01:04:22HAVE BECOME AT LEAST SKEPTICAL OF A.I.? YOU START THIS PROCESS YOU SAID
01:04:25IN 2024. NOW IT'S 2026. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?
01:04:28GUEST: WELL, IT'S ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
01:04:31I THINK IT'S AN 80-20 ISSUE. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, WHEN WE
01:04:35HAD A NATIONWIDE DAY OF PROTESTS
01:04:38FOR DATA CENTERS BACK IN JULY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY
01:04:42INTERESTING TO ME IS THERE WERE A LOT OF SIGNS ABOUT A.I., NOT
01:04:46ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, ABOUT THE ELECTRICITY AND THE WATER
01:04:49AND THE LAND AND EMINENT DOMAIN, THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE
01:04:53CONCERNED ABOUT SURROUNDING DATA CENTERS. THERE WERE A LOT OF SIGNS, A LOT
01:04:57OF T-SHIRTS ABOUT A.I. AND THAT WAS KIND OF SHOCKING TO ME.
01:05:00AND WE'RE HEARING IT MORE AND MORE. BUT IT SHOULDN'T SURPRISE US,
01:05:04BECAUSE A.I. IS TOUCHING EVERY
01:05:06ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, AND WE'VE
01:05:10HAD NO SAY AT THIS. IT'S BEING SHOVED DOWN THE
01:05:13AMERICAN THROAT, AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
01:05:16HOST: YOU SAID IT'S ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, BECAUSE YOU
01:05:19WORK WITH A LOT OF
01:05:23CONSERVATIVES, BUT YOU WORKED WITH PROGRESSIVES EARLIER.
01:05:26TODAY WE'LL SEE INDEPENDENT SENATOR WHO CAUCUSES WITH
01:05:29SENATORS, BERNIE SANDERS OF
01:05:31VERMONT, AT THE SAME A.I. FORUM,
01:05:35PRO HUMAN FOR HER 'EM WITH STEVE
01:05:38BANNON, MAGA ADVISOR. HOW THE OVERLAP, EXPLAIN HOW THIS CROSSES THE POLITICAL
01:05:43DIVIDE. GUEST: BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT PARTY POLITICS. A.I. DOESN'T CARE WHAT PARTY YOU
01:05:47BELONG TO. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR
01:05:49POLITICAL IDEOLOGY. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CONCERNS
01:05:53ALL AMERICANS. I MEAN, YOU OPEN YOUR EMAIL, AND
01:05:55THERE IT IS IN YOUR EMAIL.
01:05:57LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS. I DON'T REMEMBER EVER ASKING FOR
01:06:01THAT. MOST PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER ASKING FOR THAT SORT OF THING.
01:06:05AND THEN YOU'RE FINDING OUT
01:06:06ABOUT THE BUILDOUT AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:06:10IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A
01:06:11VOICE, AND CONGRESS DOES NOT GOVERN. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO THE
01:06:15PRESIDENT TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A LAWMAKER.
01:06:19IT IS CONGRESS' JOB TO ACT.
01:06:21AND NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING. THERE HAS BEEN SOME LEGISLATION
01:06:25THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, THAT'S BEEN GOOD LEGISLATION, BUT THEY
01:06:28HAVE NOT ACTED. I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE SHIRKING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
01:06:32THEIR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY IS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, AND
01:06:36HOW IS THIS TECHNOLOGY IMPACTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY?
01:06:39I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE'RE NOT ANTI-A.I.
01:06:42WE'RE NOT ANTI-TECH. WE'RE NOT EVEN ANTI-DATA CENTER.
01:06:45WE JUST WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND
01:06:48A VOICE IN HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY IMPACTS OUR LIVES ANYWAY, HOW IT
01:06:52WILL IMPACT OUR LIVES IN THE FUTURE, AND HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT OUT.
01:06:56HOST: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
01:06:58THE PRESIDENT IN A SECOND, BUT
01:07:01JUST YESTERDAY, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER JOHN THUNE SAID THAT A
01:07:04LIGHT TOUCH WAS NEED WHEN HAD IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE OF A.I.
01:07:07WE PLAYED A CLIP EARLIER WITH SPEAKER JOHN THUNE, WHO SAID
01:07:11THAT CONGRESS SHOULD BE INVOLVED, BUT IT IS ALSO UP TO
01:07:14THE TECH COMPANIES TO REGULATE THEMSELVES AND THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING LATER ON
01:07:18WITH LAWMAKERS AND A.I. COMPANIES.
01:07:20I MEAN, IS THAT ENOUGH THAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM YOUR
01:07:24REPUBLICAN PARTY? GUEST: YOU CAN PUT ANY LABEL YOU
01:07:28WANT TO ON IT, LIGHT TOUCH, BUT
01:07:31I DO NOT THINK THESE COMPANIES SHOULD SELF-REGULATE, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
01:07:34I THINK IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ACT. THAT'S ANTITHETICAL.
01:07:38I'M A CONSERVATIVE. IT'S ANTITHETICAL TO WHO I AM.
01:07:42I'D NEVER ADVOCATE FOR MORE GOVERNMENT, BUT I KNOW THIS IS
01:07:45THE MOST POWERFUL TECHNOLOGY IN HUMAN HISTORY, AND SOMETHING HAS
01:07:48TO BE DONE ABOUT IT.
01:07:50AND WHO ELSE IS GOING TO DO THAT
01:07:53BESIDES OUR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT? IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY SO
01:07:57TAKE ACTION. HOST: LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE
01:07:59TURN TO THE NEXT PHONE CALL, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WORK WITH
01:08:02PROGRESSIVES AND THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY ISSUE, BUT CAN
01:08:05YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND WHEN WORKING ACROSS THE
01:08:09AISLE WITH PROGRESSIVES, WITH DEMOCRATS ON THIS ISSUE? WHAT HAS BEEN A POSITIVE, AND
01:08:13ALSO WHAT'S BEEN A NEGATIVE? GUEST: WE HAVEN'T REALLY WORKED
01:08:17WITH PROGRESSIVES. WE STARTED OUT WITH A LEFT
01:08:21LEANING COALITION AND A RIGHT LEANING COALITION, AND THEN THE ORGANIZATION SPLIT INTO TWO
01:08:25SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS, BECAUSE
01:08:26THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT JUST WORK DIFFERENTLY.
01:08:29WE ORGANIZE IN A DIFFERENT WAY T. I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE IN POWER
01:08:33AND YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, IT JUST WASN'T GOING TO WORK.
01:08:36AND IF YOU WANT TO BE EFFECTIVE, YOU CAN'T BE CONSTRAINED BY
01:08:39ANOTHER COALITION IN YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION.
01:08:43SO WE SPLIT, AND SO I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON ORGANIZING AND
01:08:46RALLYING CONSERVATIVES AROUND THIS CAUSE AND SAYING, IT'S OK
01:08:50TO BE A CONSERVATIVE AND TO WANT REGULATION AROUND THE A.I. AND
01:08:54TO WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING.
01:08:56AND I WILL TELL YOU, WE'RE
01:08:59COMING UP ON JANUARY, ALL THESE STATE LEGISLATURES ARE GOING
01:09:02BACK INTO SESSION, AND I EXPECT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A NUMBER
01:09:05OF STATES THAT WILL TAKE ACTION
01:09:08ON A STATE LEVEL BECAUSE CONGRESS HAS NOT ACTED.
01:09:11HOST: I WANT TO READ TWO SOCIALS FROM THE PRESIDENT HERE.
01:09:14I POSTED THIS YESTERDAY, HE SAYS
01:09:16THE ONLY CONTROL OR GUARDRAIL
01:09:18THAT A.I. NEEDS IS A STRONG AND
01:09:20SMART, HIGH I.Q. PRESIDENT, AND
01:09:22THE U.S.A. THAT HAS THAT IN SPADES. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS
01:09:26STOPPED A.I. PEOPLE FROM DOING BAD OR POTENTIALLY BAD THINGS,
01:09:30LIKE DARIO ANTHROPIC WHO IS NOW PRETENDING TO BE A PERFECT
01:09:33LITTLE ANGEL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
01:09:36WE HAVE ALREADY TREMENDOUS CRIMINAL AND REGULATORY POWER OVER THESE COMPANIES.
01:09:40THERE IS A SICK CONSPIRACY GOING ON AGAINST A.I. AND DATA
01:09:43CENTERS, AND THE ONLY ONE THAT IS HAPPY ABOUT IT IS CHINA.
01:09:47WHOEVER WINS A.I., WINS. WE ARE LEADING CHINA AND ALL
01:09:50OTHERS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. CONSPIRACY THEORISTS,
01:09:54TREASONNISTS, TRAITS AND LEAKERS, BEWARE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
01:09:57HE LATER CALLED IT A SMOKES SAID HE WAS A HOAX BUSTER. HOW DOES THIS ALIGN WITH YOUR
01:10:01POSITION RIGHT NOW? GUEST: WELL, THE PRESIDENT IS
01:10:05RUNNING THE COUNTRY. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HE'S DEALING WITH.
01:10:08THERE'S A WAR IN IRAN. THERE'S UKRAINE-RUSSIA.
01:10:11HOST: BUT A.I. IS ONE OF THEM. GUEST: HE'S ALSO NOT A TECH PERSON.
01:10:15JUST LIKE I'M NOT A TECH PERSON. HE'S ONLY AS GOOD AS PEOPLE IN
01:10:18HIS EAR AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM. I THINK HE'S HAD SOME BAD PEOPLE
01:10:21AROUND HIM GIVING HIM ADVICE OWE THIS. HE'S ABOUT TO HIT THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO
01:10:25HEAR FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND THAT GIVES ME HOPE.
01:10:29BECAUSE I HOPE HE MOVES OUR WAY.
01:10:31I WOULD LIKE THE PRESIDENT TO
01:10:34TALK TO THE MOTHER OF A
01:10:3723-YEAR-OLD GRADUATE FROM TEXAS A&M WHO TOOK HIS OWN LIFE
01:10:41BECAUSE HE WAS MANIPULATED BY A CHATBOT.
01:10:44A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY OUT OF
01:10:46ORLANDO, FLORIDA, HIS MOTHER
01:10:49MEGAN GARCIA, IT HER SON WAS MANIPULATED BY A CHATBOT.
01:10:53THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN MANIPULATED BY THESE CHATBOTS.
01:10:57AND THE ONLY REASON WE KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF IS BECAUSE OF
01:11:00LAWSUITS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED BY THE FAMILIES T. OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE NO IDEA.
01:11:04WE HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN
01:11:08OR HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAS HAPPENED. AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED.
01:11:11WE NEED TRANSPARENCY, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO
01:11:14TALK TO THESE PARENTS AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS.
01:11:16BECAUSE IT IS A VERY REAL ISSUE,
01:11:19AND IT IS VERY CONCERNING TO
01:11:21MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HOST: WHO DO YOU BELIEVE IS
01:11:25GIVING THE PRESIDENT BAD ADVICE? GUEST: DAVID SACKS.
01:11:28HOST: ANYBODY ELSE? GUEST: I MEAN, LOOK, LET ME JUST
01:11:31SAY THIS -- HOST: HE MET WITH APPLE SALTMAN,
01:11:34ACCORDING TO MSNOW OVER THE WEEKEND. ERING HEARING FROM A LOT OF
01:11:38PEOPLE. I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK THE EXAMPLES ARE.
01:11:40GUEST: I WILL SAY THIS, THESE
01:11:42TECH C.E.O.'S ARE THE SAME TECH
01:11:45C.E.O.'S THAT BANNED THE PRESIDENT AND CONSERVATIVES
01:11:49AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION.
01:11:52MARK ZUCKERBERG, NUMBER ONE, BANNED PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM
01:11:54FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM FOR LIFE. AND THEN HE COMES BACK INTO
01:11:58POWER, AND MARK ZUCKERBERG IS
01:12:01DOE NIGHTING TO THE INAUGURATION AND COZYING UP TO THE PRESIDENT.
01:12:05ALL THESE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS MONEY AND POWER. THAT'S ALL THEY CARE ABOUT.
01:12:08AS SOON AS REPUBLICANS ARE NO LONGER IN CHARGE, THEY'RE GOING TO COZY UP TO A DEMOCRAT AND
01:12:12KICK CONSERVATIVES TO THE CURB. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT REPUBLICANS.
01:12:15THEY CARE ABOUT POWER. THAT'S ALL THEY CARE ABOUT.
01:12:17HOST: RALPH FROM MICHIGAN, A DEMOCRAT.
01:12:21GOOD MORNING, RALPH.
01:12:22GUEST: YES, I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT
01:12:26THE SUPPOSED STOLEN ELECTION IN
01:12:302020 WHERE JOE BIDEN BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
01:12:33I HAVE HERE, THIS IS A SCREEN
01:12:35SHOT, IT SAYS A.P. PROBE, THIS
01:12:37WAS REPORTED ON FOX NEWS, IT
01:12:39SAYS A.P. PROBE, NO CONSPIRACY
01:12:42TO RIG 2020 ELECTION.
01:12:44IT WAS AN AUDIT, IN FACT.
01:12:47IT SAYS THEY AUDITED THE VOTES
01:12:52IN THE SIX BATTLEGROUND STATES,
01:12:58AND OUT OF 21 MILLION VOTES
01:13:01CAST, ACCORDING TO THE A.P.,
01:13:05ONLY 473, I LAUGH, I'M SORRY,
01:13:07ONLY 473 WERE FOUND TO BE SUSPICIOUS.
01:13:11SO THE A.P. CONCLUDED.
01:13:15NOW, MY VIEW OF THE 2020 ELECTION WAS IT WAS FAIR, THERE
01:13:18WASN'T ANY CHEATING. THE CHEATING THAT I'M AWARE OF
01:13:21WAS SORT OF ON THE REPUBLICAN
01:13:25SIDE. HOST: RALPH, I WONDER IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION. GUEST: YEAH.
01:13:29DO YOU BELIEVE -- OK, THE FIRST
01:13:30QUESTION IS, WHERE WAS THE VOTE
01:13:33FRAUD IN THE SIX BATTLEGROUND STATES?
01:13:36IT SAYS HERE, ACCORDING TO THE
01:13:38A.P. PROBE, ONLY 473 VOTES OUT
01:13:41OF 21 MILLION WERE SUSPICIOUS.
01:13:44THAT'S NOT A RIGGED ELECTION.
01:13:46SO WHAT EVIDENCE DOES SHE HAVE
01:13:48THAT THE ELECTION IN 2020 WAS RIGGED? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION?
01:13:52HOST: ALL RIGHT, LET'S LET AMY GET IN HERE. GUEST: WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE
01:13:55TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. I BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION WAS
01:13:59STOLEN. IT'S INTERESTING THAT HE SAYS
01:14:00THAT THE A.P. DID AN AUDIT IN
01:14:04ALL THESE STATES, IN GEORGIA, WE CAN'T EVEN GET AN AUDIT OF THE
01:14:07ELECTION IN GEORGIA. AND THERE WERE BALLOTS.
01:14:10WE SAW THEM SEALED RECENT AM BY THE F.B.I. THEY'VE BEEN PUT UNDER SEAL.
01:14:14THEY'RE THE ONLY BALLOTS LEFT FROM THE 2020 ELECTION.
01:14:17AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE THOSE BALLOTS. WE STILL DON'T HAVE THEM.
01:14:20THE F.B.I. HAS THEM NOW.
01:14:23SO THERE WERE A LOT OF IRREGULARITIES, A LOT OF THINGS
01:14:26THAT WENT WRONG IN THE 2020 ELECTION. AND I THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF OUR
01:14:30LIFETIME, BECAUSE FREE AND FAIR
01:14:32ELECTIONS IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR REPUBLIC.
01:14:36AND WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FAITH IN OUR
01:14:38ELECTIONS, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. HOST: I MEAN, AGAIN, TO RALPH'S
01:14:42POINT, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WIDE SPREAD VOTER FRAUD.
01:14:44GUEST: WELL, GO LOOK AT COUNTY
01:14:48COMMISSION RACE FOR SEAT THREE IN GEORGIA, WHERE MICHELLE LONG
01:14:52WAS RUNNING IN THAT ELECTION, AND SHE CAME IN THIRD IN THE PRIMARY.
01:14:56SHE IS A DEMOCRAT, CAME IN THIRD IN THE PRIMARY.
01:14:59ON ELECTION NIGHT, SHE HAD NO VOTES IN HER OWN PRECINCT.
01:15:03SHE KNEW THAT WAS NOT RIGHT, BALLS HER AND HER HUSBAND HAD
01:15:06VOTED IN HER PRECINCT FOR HERSELF.
01:15:08SO THE JUDGE ALLOWED IT TO BE REOPENED AND DO AN AUDIT.
01:15:12THEY KEPT RUNNING THE NUMBERS. THEY WEREN'T MATCHING.
01:15:15IN THE END, GUESS WHAT, SHE ACTUALLY CAME IN FIRST IN THE
01:15:18PERSON THAT CAME IN FIRST WAS IN THIRD PLACE.
01:15:21AND IT TOOK A HAND COUNT OF
01:15:23THOSE BALLOTS TO MAKE IT WORK.
01:15:25AND SHE WAS A DEMOCRAT.
01:15:29DEKALB COUNTY COMMISSION SEAT THREE. HOST: OK, LET'S TURN BACK TO
01:15:33A.I. NOW. WE MIGHT GET MORE CALLS ON THE
01:15:36ELECTION, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, BACK TO A.I.
01:15:39ON TWITTER, WE HAVE JEFF FROM
01:15:43DEARBORN, MICHIGAN, WHO SAYS THAT IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR OUR GOVERNMENT TO ACT ON A.I. WHEN
01:15:46SPEAKER JOHNSON HAS SENT THE LOWER HOUSE HOME, WOULDN'T YOU
01:15:50SAY? HOW DO THEY ENFORCE THE LAW WHEN
01:15:53TRUMP KEEPS PARDONING A.I. CRIMINALS?
01:15:57NOW, CONGRESS IS IN THIS WEEK, BUT THEY WILL SOON BE GOING HOME
01:16:01TO CAMPAIGN FOR THE MIDTERMS. BUT TWO QUESTIONS, AND HOW DO
01:16:04THEY ENFORCE THE LAW WHEN
01:16:07CONGRESS IS ABOUT TO BE OUT AND
01:16:10WHEN THE PRESIDENT PERIOD A.I. CRIMINALS ACCORDING TO JEFF OF
01:16:14DEARBORN, MICHIGAN? GUEST: I WILL SAY THIS, LEADERSHIP WOULD BE GETTING
01:16:18CONGRESS BACK HERE AND HOLDING THEM HERE UNTIL THEY GOVERN. THEY NEED TO GOVERN.
01:16:22AND THEY DON'T ENFORCE THE LAW. THEY MAKE THE LAW.
01:16:24AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.
01:16:26WE NEED THEM TO REGULATE THIS.
01:16:29WE NEED THEM TO GOVERN ON THIS.
01:16:32AND I HOPE SPEAKER JOHNSON COMES
01:16:34TO HIS SENSES AND WILL GET CONGRESS TO ACT ON THIS.
01:16:37IT IS NOT, I DON'T THINK THESE C.E.O.'S CAN BE TRUSTED TO
01:16:41SELF-REGULATE. I THINK THAT'S ABSURD ON ITS FACE.
01:16:45HOST: SO FRANK FROM MARYLANDLESS THE PROBLEM IS THE CAT IS OUT OF
01:16:48THE BAG, AND JUST AS THE ATOMIC
01:16:52BOMB BECAME INEVITABLE ONCE WE KNEW IT COULD HAPPEN, SO WILL A.I.
01:16:55YEP, WE NEED TO REGULATE, BUT I FEAR A.I. WILL BECOME THE RING
01:16:58THAT CONTROLS US ALL.
01:17:02WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? GUEST: THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS
01:17:05ABOUT A.I. I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF
01:17:07CONCERNS ABOUT A.I.
01:17:10AND YOU KNOW, CONTROLLING US ALL, I MEAN, IT YOU'RE HEARING
01:17:13THESE LEADERS OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S AN ESSENTIAL THREAT.
01:17:17WHAT ABOUT THE THREAT OF WIPING HUMANITY OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET?
01:17:20THAT'S WHAT HUMANS FIRST IS ABOUT.
01:17:22WE WANT A BOB ON SUPER INTELLIGENCE. -- A BAN ON SUPER INTELLIGENCE.
01:17:27HUMANS FIRST. TECHNOLOGY SHOULD SERVE PEOPLE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
01:17:30HOST: THIS IS FROM THE SAME "WASHINGTON POST" ARTICLE THAT I
01:17:33READ EARLIER, IF MY PRODUCER
01:17:36WOULD PUT UP A FULL SCREEN, THE GROUP INCOULD YOU BAITED BY THE
01:17:39CENTER FOR A.I. SAFETY, A SAN
01:17:42FRANCISCO OUTFIT THAT THEY SEEK
01:17:48TO MITT LATE GIVING. THE CENTER PROVIDES A LOAN.
01:17:51THE A.I. SAFETY CENTER'S INVOLVEMENT HAS PROMPTED
01:17:55ACQUISITIONS FROM SOME OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE TECH INDUSTRY
01:17:58THAT HUMANS FIRST IS LITTLE MORE THAN A FRONT ORGANIZATION.
01:18:01THE INVESTOR AND FORMER WHITE HOUSE A.I. CZAR DAVID SACKS, WHO
01:18:04YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, QUOTED AN ARTICLE ON X DETAILING THE LINKS
01:18:08BETWEEN THE TWO THAT DESCRIBED IT AS A CENSORSHIP POWER PLAY
01:18:12DRESSED UP IN SAFETY LANGUAGE.
01:18:14WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
01:18:17GUEST: IT'S JUST ABSURD ON ITS FACE. IT I MEAN, THEY ATTACK YOU WHEN
01:18:21THEY CAN'T ARGUE THE ISSUES.
01:18:22WE ARE A THREAT TO THEIR POWER,
01:18:25BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY. THEY'VE GOT MORE MONEY THAN GOD.
01:18:28THEY'VE GOT LOBBYISTS CRAWLING THE CITY.
01:18:30THEY HAVE LOBBYISTS ALL ACROSS STATE HOUSES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY
01:18:34T. BUT THE PEOPLE ARE WITH US. AND THE PEOPLE WANT CONGRESS TO ACT.
01:18:37THESE PEOPLE WANT NO REGULATIONS
01:18:42WHATSOEVER. DAVID SACKS AND HIS COHORTS WANT NO REGULATIONS WHATSOEVER.
01:18:46THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY ARE, TO TRY TO STOP US.
01:18:48HOST: I KNOW YOU SAID THAT CONGRESS SHOULD BE ACTING, BUT
01:18:52WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN THIS SITUATION?
01:18:55GUEST: I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE WHITE HOUSE COULD DO AN
01:19:00EXECUTIVE ORDER DEMANDING
01:19:05MANDATORY PREDEPLOYMENT TESTING.
01:19:07BACK IN MAY, THERE WAS A LETTER
01:19:09ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO DO AN
01:19:13EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRING MANDATORY PREDEPLOYMENT TESTING. I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE COULD DO
01:19:16THAT ANYWAY, AND CONGRESS SHOULD
01:19:20CODIFY THAT. THAT COULD BE A FIRST STEP.
01:19:23HOST: SUE FROM NEW JERSEY SAYS
01:19:25THAT AS WITH ANYTHING OF
01:19:28MAGNITUDE, IT DEPENDS ON WHOSE HAND IT RESIDES IN.
01:19:32THAT'S THE SECUREY PART.
01:19:34I'M SURE HEY HAS SOME BENEFIT TO MANKIND AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN THE WRONG HANDS.
01:19:38GUEST: I AGREE. I THINK THERE ARE GOOD THINGS COMING FROM A.I.
01:19:41I THINK THERE ARE GOOD THINGS TO COME IN THE FUTURE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CONCERNED
01:19:45ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES, AND
01:19:47THAT IS WHY WE NEED REGULATION
01:19:50AND CONGRESS TO GOVERN ON THIS.
01:19:54HOST: NANCY SAYS, THEY WANT TO KEEP A.I. IN CHINA UNDER TOTAL
01:19:58CONTROL, AND THEY CERTAINLY WANT TO BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER.
01:20:00THEY HAVE A HUGE DEBT PROBLEM, THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO
01:20:04GET INTO AN A.I. SPENDING BOOM THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND FINANCIAL
01:20:08BLACK HOLE. I MEAN, THE TOP SECURITY -- GUEST: IS SHE TALKING ABOUT
01:20:11AMERICA OR CHINA? HOST: I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT CHINA.
01:20:15THE TOP CHINESE SPY IN CHINA DID
01:20:18HAVE A WARNING ABOUT A.I., SAYING THAT IT THREATENS C.C.P.,
01:20:23WHICH IS THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY RULE. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF
01:20:27THAT? GUEST: THIS IS THE THING.
01:20:29I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, BUT ALL THESE FOUNDERS COMING OUT NOW
01:20:32AND TALKING ABOUT THESE C.E.O.'S
01:20:34AND EXECS, THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE LABS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT
01:20:38FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. THIS IS NOTHING NEW.
01:20:41IT'S JUST THE PUBLIC IS PAYING ATTENTION, AND THE NEWS IS COVERING IT.
01:20:45WHEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING INSIDE THESE LABS ARE CONCERNED,
01:20:48I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
01:20:51THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
01:20:54HOST: DO YOU THINK THAT THE A.I. TECH LEADERS CALLED FOR MORE
01:20:58REGULATION, PARTICULARLY AFTER THAT VIRAL TWEET FROM SOMEBODY
01:21:02WHO JUST LEFT ANTHROPIC?
01:21:04DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE GENUINE?
01:21:06GUEST: I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD THEM
01:21:09TALK ABOUT THINGS, TALK ABOUT
01:21:12THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY BEFORE.
01:21:14THEY HAVE SAID THINGS BEFORE. HOST: TECH LEADERS?
01:21:17GUEST: YES, THE TECH LEADERS. SO IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT
01:21:21THEY DO, HAVE DONE EVERY DAY OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS,
01:21:24BUT THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
01:21:28SO I DON'T THINK THAT -- I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY GENUINE IN
01:21:32THIS. I THINK THEY ARE, LOOK, EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
01:21:35EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
01:21:39IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
01:21:42HOST: WHAT OTHER POLICIES -- I
01:21:46KNOW YOU SAID THE PRESIDENT
01:21:47COULD SIGN AN EXECUTIVE
01:21:51ORDER YANKEES COULD CODIFY IT AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP.
01:21:54BUT WHAT OTHER LEGISLATION ARE YOU GUYS SUPPORTING OR PUSHING
01:21:57THAT EITHER HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED OR YOU KNOW IS BEING WRITTEN AT
01:22:01THE MOMENT? GUEST: FIRST OF ALL, I THINK
01:22:03THERE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENCY, 100% TRANSPARENCY.
01:22:06WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENED, I'M A FORMER FLIGHT ATTENDANT, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH AN
01:22:10AIRLINER, WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH
01:22:14HOSPITALS, WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, WHEN SOMETHING
01:22:18HAPPENS WITH OSHA, ALL THE
01:22:21INDUSTRIES THAT OSHA REGULATES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT IT.
01:22:25THERE'S NO REPORTING GUIDELINES WHATSOEVER HERE.
01:22:27THE CASES THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU ABOUT THE FLORIDA STATE
01:22:30SHOOTING, THE ONE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, KIDS TAKING THEIR OWN
01:22:33LIFE, THE ONLY REASON WE KNOW THIS IS BECAUSE OF LAWSUITS FILED.
01:22:37THESE COMPANIES CAN TAKE THIS TECHNOLOGY, THEY STAND UP HERE
01:22:41AND SCREAM CHINA, CHINA, CHINA,
01:22:46AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE STILL SELLING OUR CHIPS TOE CHINA.
01:22:49WE'RE LOOSENS EXPORT CONTROLS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA
01:22:53CENTER BUILDOUT, CHINA, THE MAJORITY OF THE DATA CENTER COME
01:22:56FROM CHINA, THE LITHIUM BATTERIES COME FROM CHINA.
01:23:00WHAT GIVES CHINA LEVERAGE IS WHEN YOU ARE HELL-BENT ON
01:23:03BUILDING OUT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ORIGINAL FATES IN CHINA?
01:23:07THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
01:23:10THESE COMPANIES CAN GIVE THIS
01:23:13TECHNOLOGY TO FOREIGN ENTITIES, FOREIGN BUSINESSES, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.
01:23:17THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TOE REPORT IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. HOW CAN THAT BE?
01:23:21"FINANCIAL TIMES" IN JULY DID A REPORT THAT OPENAI AND GOOGLE, I
01:23:24BELIEVE, THOSE ARE THE TWO, ARE SELLING THEIR FRONTIER A.I.
01:23:28MODELS TO CHINESE SUBSIDIARIES
01:23:35IN SINGAPORE TO COMPANIES BLACKLISTED BY THE PENTAGON. HOW CAN THAT BE?
01:23:39HOW CAN THAT BE? THEY'RE STANDING UP SAYING BUT
01:23:42CHINA, BUT CHINA, BUT CHINA. YOU CANNOT BE AMERICA FIRST AND
01:23:46CHINA FUNDED AT THE SAME TIME. HOST: WELL, PRESIDENT XI WILL BE AT THE WHITE HOUSE NEXT WEEK.
01:23:50THE PRESIDENT SAID HE'S GOING TO HAVE A STATE DINNER FOR HIM. GUEST: WELL, LISTEN, I THINK
01:23:53THAT WE NEED A TREATY, JUST LIKE
01:23:56WHEN WE GOT NUCLEAR BOMBS, I THINK WE NEED A TREATY, AND I
01:24:00THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN LEAD AND GET THAT DONE, AND IT WOULD
01:24:03START WITH AMERICA AND CHINA, AND THEN OTHERS COULD COME ON
01:24:07BOARD. AND I HOME THAT THE PRESIDENT DOES THAT.
01:24:10WE KNOW HE LOVES TO MAKE DEALS,
01:24:11AND I HOPE THAT HE WILL TAKE THE
01:24:14STEPS TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IT IS
01:24:18SOMETHING THAT, LIKE THE PERSON SAID, IF IT GETS IN THE WRONG
01:24:22HANDS, THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? HOST: MATT FROM MARYLAND, AN
01:24:25INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING, MATT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:24:30THE PRESIDENT HAS SURROUNDED
01:24:34HIMSELF WITH TECH BILLIONAIRES,
01:24:38INCLUDING ELON MUSK, PETER THIEL
01:24:41OWNS THE VICE PRESIDENT, AND THE PRESIDENT IS RECEIVING MONEY
01:24:44HAND OVER FIST FROM THE SAME TECH BILLIONAIRES WHO ARE PROMOTING A.I.
01:24:48WOULD YOU VIEW IT AS A BETRAYAL
01:24:51IF PRESIDENT TRUMP SIDES WITH
01:24:53HIS TECH BILLIONAIRE SUPPORTERS
01:24:56AND THE EPSTEIN CLASS OVER YOU
01:24:59AND YOUR ORGANIZATION AND EFFORTS TO REGULATE A.I.?
01:25:03THANK YOU.
01:25:06GUEST: WELL, THAT WAS INTERESTING.
01:25:08THE EPSTEIN CLASS, I WOULD NOT -- I MEAN, I WOULD NOT
01:25:12EQUATE THE TWO. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD THAT.
01:25:15LOOK, THE PRESIDENT, HE WAS
01:25:17ELECTED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
01:25:21OVERWHELMINGLY. HE'S BEEN A GOOD PRESIDENT. I LOVE THAT HE'S CLOSE WOULD THE
01:25:24BORDER, THE THINGS HE'S DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY, OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND WHATNOT.
01:25:28THIS WAS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE THAT WAS ON ANYBODY'S MIND TWO YEARS
01:25:32AGO WHEN HE RAN.
01:25:34AND NOW THE TECHNOLOGY IS MOVING
01:25:37SO FAST, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT
01:25:41ELECTED HIM AS HE GETS OUT THERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, AND I
01:25:44HOPE HE MODERATES HIS POSITION. I HOPE HE COMES TO OUR SIDE.
01:25:48HOST: ALL RIGHT, HUMAN FIRST CHAIR AMY KREMER, THANK YOU SO
01:25:51MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
01:25:54HOST: MORE OF YOUR PHONE CALLS, TEXTS, AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS
01:25:57AFTER THE BREAK IN OPEN FORUM. START CALLING IN NOW.
01:26:01HERE ARE YOUR LINES. DEMOCRATS, 202-748-8000.
01:26:05REPUBLICANS, 202-748-8001.
01:26:09INDEPENDENTS, 202-748-8002.
01:26:14THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS AWAITING TESTIMONY FROM
01:26:17F.B.I. DIRECTOR KASH PATEL, IN
01:26:20ABOUT 30 MINUTES UP ON CAPITOL HILL.
01:26:22WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE LIVE AS
01:26:24SOON AS IT BEGINS.
01:26:37>> WATCH "AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB," C-SPAN'S BOLD, ORIGINAL SERIES.
01:26:41SUNDAY, OUR GUEST IS TWO-TIME
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01:26:49HE JOINS OUR HOST, DAVID
01:27:02RUBENSTEIN. >> YOU WROTE ANOTHER BOOK ABOUT A LEDGE HEAR FOOTBALL COACH WHO
01:27:05SPENT A YEAR IN WASHINGTON, D.C., VINCE LOMBARDI.
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01:27:12BOOK AARON RODGERS, IT WAS BOMB
01:27:15HARDEE, BECAUSE HE REPRESENTED SOMETHING LARGER. HE REPRESENTED THE MYTHOLOGY OF
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01:27:23>> WATCH "AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB" SUNDAY AT 6:00 P.M. AND 9:00
01:27:26P.M. EASTERN AND PACIFIC, ONLY
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01:27:51REPUBLICANS WATCHING DEMOCRATS,
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01:27:56MODERATES WATCHING ALL.
01:27:59BECAUSE C-SPAN VIEWERS WANT THE FACTS STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE,
01:28:02NO COMMENTARY, NO AGENDA, JUST DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED EVERY DAY
01:28:06ON THE C-SPAN NETWORKS. >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES.
01:28:10HOST: WELCOME BACK. IT'S OPEN FORUM, WHERE YOU CAN
01:28:13CALL IN ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY
01:28:15OR POLITICAL ISSUE ON YOUR MIND. THIS MORNING, I WILL REMIND UP
01:28:19OF YOUR LINES. DEMOCRATS, YOUR LINE,
01:28:22202-748-8000.
01:28:24REPUBLICANS, YOUR LINE, 202-748-8001.
01:28:28INDEPENDENTS, YOUR LINE IS 202-748-8002.
01:28:32START CALLING IN NOW, SO YOU CAN GET IN SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS,
01:28:35QUESTIONS, AND CONCERNS ABOUT
01:28:37OUR POLITICAL MOMENT RIGHT NOW
01:28:40BEFORE WE HEAD AT 9:00 A.M. TO
01:28:43F.B.I. DIRECTOR KASH PATEL'S
01:28:46SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING ON CAPITOL HILL, WHERE
01:28:48HE IS SET TO TESTIFY ABOUT LAW
01:28:52ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND PRIORITIES. YOU CAN WATCH THAT OVERSIGHT
01:28:55HEARING LIVE STARTING AT 9:00
01:28:58A.M. EASTERN ON C-SPAN3.
01:29:01SO STAY WITH US AFTER THIS PROGRAM SO WATCH KASH PATEL
01:29:04TESTIFY AT THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
01:29:06RIGHT NOW, IT'S OPEN FORUM. CHRISTOPHER FROM HASTINGS, MICHIGAN, A DEMOCRAT.
01:29:10GOOD MORNING, CHRISTOPHER.
01:29:13CALLER: HELLO. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
01:29:16HOST: I'M DOING WELL. HOW ARE YOU? CALLER: THANK YOU.
01:29:19I WAS JUST CALLING ABOUT THAT
01:29:22LAST GUEST THAT YOU HAD ON FROM
01:29:24THE TEA PARTY THAT WAS WORRIED
01:29:28ABOUT A.I.
01:29:296 I'M MUCH, MUCH MOTHER WORRIED
01:29:32ABOUT CLIMATE WARMING THAN I AM ABOUT A.I.
01:29:36AND ALTHOUGH I AM A DEMOCRAT, I
01:29:40WISH THE DEMOCRATS WOULD ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE CLIMATE
01:29:43CRISIS AND ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT A LOT MORE.
01:29:45THEY SEEM TO HAVE ABANDONED THAT
01:29:49ENTIRE ISSUE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE EVIDENCE. THE EVIDENCE IS OBVIOUS.
01:29:53IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO GET COOLER.
01:29:55THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
01:30:02THE LAST YEAR, IT WAS 1976, AND
01:30:04IT'S JUST GOTTEN WARMER AND
01:30:08WARMER SINCE. AUGUST WAS THE HOTTEST MONTH EVER, TIED WITH THE HOTTEST
01:30:11MONTH EVER, BY FAR THE HOTTEST AUGUST EVER.
01:30:14IT'S NOW THE MOST WATER VAPOR IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
01:30:17THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
01:30:20THANK YOU. HOST: THAT WAS CHRISTOPHER FROM MICHIGAN, A DEMOCRAT. WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, BUT
01:30:24WE DIDN'T GET TO READ A LOT ABOUT IT, THE DECISION WRITTEN
01:30:28HERE IN "THE WASHINGTON POST"
01:30:29ABOUT TRUMP'S E.P.A. ENDING ONE
01:30:33OF THE NATION'S
01:30:39ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ON MONDAY REPEALED BIDEN ERA
01:30:42RULES TO LIMIT THE CARBON
01:30:45DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM POWER
01:30:48PLANTS ARGUING IT WILL SAVE CONSUMERS MONEY ON E LEK TRIGS
01:30:52TRISTY BILLS WHILE
01:30:54ENVIRONMENTALISTS SAY IT WILL
01:30:56TAKE A TOLL ON PUBLIC HEALTH.
01:31:01THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S EPA
01:31:04ESTIMATING IT WOULD HAVE SAVED THOUSANDS OF LIVES. POWER PLANTS ARE THE SECOND
01:31:08LARGEST SOURCE OF CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:31:11THE LIMITS NOW REVERSE TO A
01:31:14WEAKER 2015 STANDARD SET UNDER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA ALTHOUGH
01:31:17THE EPA PROPOSED AN ADDITIONAL
01:31:20REGULATION, THAT ONE WOULD
01:31:22ELIMINATE ALL PREVIOUS GAS HOUSE
01:31:25GAS STANDARDS FOR POWER PLANTS. THAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT.
01:31:28RALPH FROM TAMPA, FLORIDA, A REPUBLICAN.
01:31:31GOOD MORNING, RALPH.
01:31:34CALLER: REPUBLICAN PARTY. GOOD MORNING, THANKS FOR PICKING ME UP.
01:31:38THEY HAVE LOST ME.
01:31:40I CAN'T POSSIBLY, IN MY RIGHT
01:31:43MIND, VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AGAIN. I JUST CAN'T DO IT.
01:31:47THEY'VE LOST ME. THEY KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE
01:31:50REAGAN REPUBLICANS, THIS REPUBLICAN.
01:31:54IT'S TRUMP'S PARTY NOW.
01:31:57I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE STAND IN
01:32:00LOCK STEP WITH THIS MANIAC WHO'S
01:32:04A CONVICTED CRIMINAL AND THEY'RE
01:32:10SUPPORTING HIM AT AN EVENT THAT
01:32:12MAKES MY STOMACH TWIST THAT HE'S
01:32:14AN ACCUSED PEDOPHILE, CONVICTED
01:32:18RAPIST, AND THEY'RE BACKING THIS GUY.
01:32:21AND HE'S STILL ON THE BALLOT.
01:32:24HE'S TELLING, AND I'M ON THE BALLOT.
01:32:28IT'S -- IT'S BEYOND COMPREHENSION.
01:32:32IT'S BEYOND COMPREHENSION.
01:32:35HOST: RALPH, LET ME ASK YOU.
01:32:38AND AGAIN, JUST FROM WHAT YOU
01:32:43SAID, THE JURY FOUND TRUMP LIABLE FOR SEXUAL ABUSE THERE.
01:32:47SO YOU ARE A LIFE-LONG REPUBLICAN SAYING YOU'RE NO
01:32:50LONGER VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
01:32:52WHO DO YOU PLAN TO VOTE FOR COME
01:32:56NOVEMBER? CALLER: I DON'T KNOW WHO'S RUNNING YET BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REPUBLICAN.
01:32:59IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERSON
01:33:02WHO STANDS ASIDE TRUMP, WHO ONCE
01:33:05STOOD BY HIM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN
01:33:06NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT WITH HIM
01:33:09THEY'RE JUST NOT WITH HIM IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
01:33:12THEY'RE NOT OUTWARDLY COMING AND
01:33:15SAYING LOOK WHO THIS MAN IS.
01:33:18THEY'RE GOING TO BACK HIM. THEY'RE GOING TO BACK HIS
01:33:22CANDIDATES, TALK POSITIVELY ABOUT HIM.
01:33:25I CAN'T PUT HIS NAME IN MY MOUTH
01:33:28AND NOT HAVE DIRT FALL OUT OF IT.
01:33:30BECAUSE HE'S A FILTHY, SLIMING
01:33:33HUMAN BEING. HOST: THAT'S RALPH FROM TAMPA, A REPUBLICAN.
01:33:37THIS IS OPEN FORUM YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY OR
01:33:41POLITICAL ISSUE ON YOUR MIND.
01:33:43DEMOCRATS, I REMIND OF YOUR LINEDS. DEMOCRATS 202-748-8000
01:33:46REPUBLICANS 202-748-8001
01:33:50AND INDEPENDENTS 202-748-8002.
01:33:55START CALLING IN NOW SO WE CAN
01:33:59TALK ALL THE THINGS ON YOUR MIND.
01:34:01WALTER FROM WALDORF, MARYLAND.
01:34:05DEMOCRAT -- BEFORE WE GET TO WALTER I'LL REMIND FOLKS TO --
01:34:09WE ASK THAT YOU CALL IN JUST
01:34:11ONCE EVERY 30 DAYS.
01:34:14WALTER FROM WALDORF, MARYLAND, A
01:34:19DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE
01:34:22YOU DOING. HOST: I'M DOING WELL HOW ABOUT
01:34:26YOU. CALLER: DOING WELL. I LIKE THAT LAST CALLER, THAT
01:34:29REPUBLICAN TALKING ABOUT THE SLIMY PERSON IN OFFICE.
01:34:33BUT MY QUESTION IS TO THE DEMOCRATS, WHAT PLAN DO WE HAVE
01:34:37TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE TO GET
01:34:41HIM OUT OF OFFICE BEFORE HE DESTROYS THIS COUNTRY.
01:34:44THAT'S MY BIGGEST COUNTRY. THAT'S MY QUESTION.
01:34:47HOST: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
01:34:51WHAT PLAN DO THE -- CALLER: THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO
01:34:55GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE. HOST: YOU HEARD FROM
01:34:58REPRESENTATIVE AL GREEN WHO IS BRINGING UP ARTICLES OF
01:35:02IMPEACHMENT, ALTHOUGH THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF
01:35:06IT. CALLER: HE'S BEEN BRINGING IT
01:35:08UP THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND ALL WE DO IS KEEP GOING UP WITH
01:35:12FOOD, GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE COUNTRY.
01:35:14EVERYTHING IS FAKE NEWS, WHICH IT'S NOT. HOST: DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS
01:35:18AREN'T DOING ENOUGH TO COUNTER THE PRESIDENT?
01:35:22CALLER: NOT AT ALL. THEN WE HAVE A BUNCH OF REPUBLICAN FOLLOWERS WHO ALLOW
01:35:26HIM TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO.
01:35:29IN MY 60 YEARS OF LIVING I'VE
01:35:32NEVER SEEN THE SUPREME COURT WORK AS HARD AS THEY'RE WORKING TODAY.
01:35:35AND THEY WORK FOR HIM. HOST: THE SUPREME COURT DID
01:35:39JUST REJECT HIS LATEST EFFORTS
01:35:41ON MAIL-IN BALLOTS.
01:35:46CALLER: OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF 20 OTHER THINGS
01:35:49WHICH YOU'VE ACCEPTED, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
01:35:53HOST: THAT'S WALTER FROM WALDORF, MARYLAND, A DEMOCRAT.
01:35:57JIM FROM FLORIDA A REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING, JIM.
01:36:00CALLER: GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU?
01:36:04HOST: I'M DOING WELL, HOW ARE
01:36:09YOU? CALLER: I GUESS I JUST REPEAT
01:36:12THE CHANT FROM DEMOCRATS, TRUMP BAD, TRUMP BAD.
01:36:16ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS BAD, BAD, BAD.
01:36:18HAVE A GOOD DAY. HOST: THAT'S JIM FROM FLORIDA,
01:36:21A REPUBLICAN.
01:36:24MARY FROM ASHBURN, VIRGINIA, A
01:36:28DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, MARY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:36:32I'M CALLING REGARDING THE
01:36:34PRESIDENT'S PROCLAMATION LAST
01:36:36MONTH THAT WILL ALLOW DUTY FREE
01:36:40IMPORTATION OF ABOUT 660 MILLION
01:36:43POUNDS OF INEXPENSIVE BEEF.
01:36:46WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
01:36:49IF YOU BUY A T-SHIRT --
01:36:51HOST: I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT
01:36:53SAID ARGENTINA AS ONE OF THE
01:36:57COUNTRIES LAST WEEK. CALLER: IF YOU BUY A T-SHIRT
01:37:01FROM GAP, IT WILL HAVE A LABEL
01:37:03THAT TELLS YOU WHERE IT WAS MADE.
01:37:06THAT'S FEDERAL LAW.
01:37:08IT'S TRUE FOR AUTOMOBILES,
01:37:11APPLIANCES, TELEVISION SETS,
01:37:14FRESH OR FROZEN FRUIT AND VEGETABLES.
01:37:17BUT THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR
01:37:20BEEF AND PORK.
01:37:23THE CUTS OF MEAT THAT SHALL --
01:37:27THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN ARE
01:37:29NOT SIRLOIN, RIB EYES AND FILLETS.
01:37:33THEY'RE TRIMMINGS THAT WILL BE
01:37:36ATTED TO AMERICAN CUTS TO MAKE GROUND BEEF.
01:37:3916 COUNTRIES ARE CURRENTLY
01:37:42AUTHORIZED TO EXPORT THESE TO
01:37:46THE UNITED STATES.
01:37:48IN 2017, THE BRAZILIAN FEDERAL
01:37:53POLICE RAIDED 200 MEAT PACKING
01:37:58PLANTS AFTER INSPECTORS AND
01:38:01POLITICIANS WERE PRESCRIBD
01:38:05BRIBED TO ALLOW THE SALE OF
01:38:07CONTAMINATED MEAT.
01:38:10ROTTEN MEAT WAS TREATED AND SOLD
01:38:12TO HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, AND
01:38:14EXPORTED IN BRAZIL.
01:38:23THE BR BRAZILIAN COMPANY W JBS,
01:38:29THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD,
01:38:31ADMITTED TO BRIBING INSPECTORS.
01:38:34PRESIDENT TRUMP AND MR. BATISTA,
01:38:38WHOSE FAMILY CONTROLS JBS HAS
01:38:42MET KE WHITE HOUSE AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK.
01:38:46THE EUROPEAN UNION SUSPENDED
01:38:49IMPORTS OF BEEF FROM BRAZIL.
01:38:53HOST: MARK FROM CONNECTICUT, A REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING, MARK.
01:38:57CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:39:02HELLO. HOST: I CAN HEAR YOU. CALLER: I'M JUST CALLING
01:39:06BECAUSE I'M HEARING THINGS ABOUT IMPEACHMENT, IMPEACHMENT,
01:39:09IMPEACHMENT. THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS EVERYONE
01:39:12IS TALKING ABOUT GAS PRICES, THE PRICE OF THIS, THAT.
01:39:15BUT THEY'RE NOT REALIZING THE
01:39:17PRICE INCREASE CAME FROM THE
01:39:20PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, EVERYTHING.
01:39:23AND THE COST OF HEALTH CARE CAME
01:39:26FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
01:39:30I'M JUST BAFFLED AND DON'T
01:39:33UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYONE IS SO QUICK TO REMEMBER THE GARBAGE WE
01:39:36WENT THROUGH THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IT'S INSANE.
01:39:40THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
01:39:42HOST: DONNA FROM CHICAGO, A DEMOCRAT.
01:39:44GOOD MORNING, DONNA. CALLER: DONNA, GOOD MORNING.
01:39:47I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE.
01:39:50YES, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME AT THIS POINT.
01:39:53BUT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH WORSE.
01:39:55AND WE'VE OVERCOME.
01:39:58WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE,
01:40:03THIS UPCOMING ELECTION, Y'ALL, GOD IS GOING TO SHOW UP AND SHOW
01:40:08OUT. BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP.
01:40:10WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
01:40:13WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH WORSE TIME THAN THIS Y'ALL.
01:40:16WE GOT TO GET UP SOME THINGS --
01:40:22SOME BEANS AND RICE IF YOU DON'T
01:40:25TRUST THE MEAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE HAVE TO SURVIVE.
01:40:28WE HAVE TO SURVIVE.
01:40:30WE USED TO THRIVE, BUT NOW WE'RE JUST SURVIVING.
01:40:34AND IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY.
01:40:35IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY, Y'ALL.
01:40:40THANK YOU. HOST: THAT'S DONNA FROM CHICAGO, A DEMOCRAT.
01:40:44ANDY FROM PHOENIX, A REPUBLICAN.
01:40:46GOOD MORNING, ANDY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, JASMINE,
01:40:50THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL AND YOUR SCREENER FOR PUTTING ME
01:40:54THROUGH. I WANTED TO FIRST JUST ASK YOU
01:40:58WAS TRUMP EVER FOUND GUILTY OF
01:41:04PEDOPHILIA, I NOTICE A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKE THAT ACCUSATION AND
01:41:07NOT ONLY YOU DIDN'T CORRECT THAT BUT YOUR HOSTS DON'T.
01:41:10I'M TELLING YOU TRUMP -- THAT'S
01:41:14ALMOST LIABLE NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PUSH THAT ON YOUR NETWORK.
01:41:18WAS HE EVER FOUND -- HOST: I ACTUALLY DID CORRECT
01:41:22HIM, I READ AN AP HEADLINE HERE
01:41:26AND THAT IS JURY FINDS TRUMP
01:41:30LIABLE. YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT PEDOPHILIA, WHICH IS NOT LISTED
01:41:33IN THIS ARTICLE.
01:41:35SO HE WAS FOUND LIABLE BY A JURY
01:41:38FOR SEXUAL ABUSE AND I DID
01:41:40CORRECT THAT CALLER.
01:41:42CALLER: THAT'S E. JEAN CAROL.
01:41:46HOST: YES. CALLER: HE WAS NOT NEVER FOUND
01:41:49GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR.
01:41:52AS FAR AS BEEF PRICES, THEY'VE
01:41:54BEEN HIGH FOR QUITE A WHILE AND
01:41:58THEY ARE GETTING HIGHER.
01:41:59ONE THING I READ AN ABOUT A YEAR
01:42:02AGO, WE HAVE A 75 YEAR LOW ON
01:42:04CATTLE IN THIS COUNTRY YET OUR
01:42:07POPULATION IS PROBABLY DOUBLE
01:42:11SINCE 1975 -- OR 75 YEARS AGO.
01:42:13I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OUR BEEF
01:42:15SUPPLY IS SO LOW BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS.
01:42:19AS FAR AS A.I. GOES, WE'VE HEARD
01:42:21THE DANGERS OF TECHNOLOGY, BUT
01:42:24ARE WE GOING TO LET CHINA BE THE LEADER IN A.I.?
01:42:28I JUST -- I THINK IT'S ONE OF
01:42:30THOSE THINGS WE CAN'T FALL
01:42:32BEHIND THE EIGHT-BALL ON THIS.
01:42:35OTHERWISE, OTHER COUNTRIES WILL JUST SURPASS US ON THAT.
01:42:39BUT AGAIN, JUST PLEASE CORRECT
01:42:42PEOPLE, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT E
01:42:45JEAN CAROL AL THEY WANT. BUT HE HAS NEVER BEEN FOUND
01:42:48GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA.
01:42:50HE COULD SUE YOU FOR ALLOWING TO
01:42:53PUSH THAT PROPAGANDA. HOST: IF I COULD ASK ON THE
01:42:57A.I. QUESTION. DO YOU THINK THE U.S. IS
01:42:59BALANCING THE NEED FOR -- THE
01:43:01NEED FOR INNOVATION WITH SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ABOUT A.I.
01:43:05REGULATION OR THE LACK THEREOF?
01:43:12CALLER: A NEED FOR RENOVATION WITH A.I.?
01:43:14HOST: THE NEED FOR INNOVATION?
01:43:16CALLER: OF COURSE WE NEED TO
01:43:19NOT ONLY OVER SEE A.I. AND NOT
01:43:23LET THEM JUST GO CRAZY, BUT WE
01:43:26NEED TO BE INNOVATORS IN ALL TECHNOLOGY.
01:43:29WE NEED TO BE THE LEADERS IN THAT INNOVATION.
01:43:32IF WE JUST START USING THIS PANIC STUFF, WHICH MAYBE CHINA
01:43:36IS PUSHING A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN
01:43:38SO THEY CAN SLOW US DOWN IN OUR
01:43:43INNOVATION, RUSSIA, YOU KNOW, TO
01:43:48PUT US BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL THAT WOULDN'T BE GOOD FOR THE
01:43:52UNITED STATES. WE CAN'T PROCEED FORWARD WITH
01:43:55TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE BAD FOR THE UNITED STATES.
01:43:57SO OVERSIGHT, SURE.
01:44:00BUT YEAH, NOT, WE NEED TO
01:44:02INNOVATE AND WE NEED TO BE THE LEADERS IN TECHNOLOGY.
01:44:06HOST: THAT'S ANDY FROM PHOENIX,
01:44:09A REPUBLICAN. TOM FROM NASHVILLE, AN
01:44:12INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, TOM. CALLER: THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.
01:44:16I WANT TO DEFEND TRUMP A LITTLE BIT. HE PUT TAX THINGS IN THAT HELPED
01:44:20OLD PEOPLE LIKE ME, I'M ALMOST
01:44:2280 YEARS OLD, I STILL WORK FOR A
01:44:25LIVING AND PAY FOR INCOME TAXES
01:44:28HE HELPED ME -- HOST: IN THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL.
01:44:31CALLER: I THINK WE GOT 6,500 OR
01:44:35SOME TYPE OF CREDIT ON OUR INCOME TAX IN 2025, WHICH SAVED
01:44:38YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. SOMETIMES I WONDER IF Y'ALL
01:44:41DON'T -- I ASKED PEDRO THIS
01:44:45BEFORE, ASK PEOPLE HOW MUCH BEFORE THEY START BEATING UP ON
01:44:49EVERYBODY AND GRIPING ABOUT
01:44:52AMERICA, HOW MUCH THEY HAVE PAID
01:44:54IN THE PAST YEAR IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
01:44:57I GET ABOUT HALF MY SOCIAL
01:44:59SECURITY TAXES BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT. I STILL WORK AND PAY TAXES, SO I
01:45:03HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAXES BUT
01:45:05THESE FOLKS CALL IN WITH WILD IDEAS.
01:45:09I HAVE TO GET OFF THE PHONE BECAUSE I GOT TO GO TO WORK.
01:45:11I'M TELLING YOU, THEY -- THEY I
01:45:19WONDER HOW MUCH THEY HAVE VEST IN THE COUNTRY.
01:45:22AN 80-YEAR-OLD MAN LIKE ME STILL PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM AND TRUMP
01:45:26DID OKAY IN 2025, 2026, I THINK IT RUNS TO 28.
01:45:30THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT IF YOU PAY HEAVY INCOME TAXES.
01:45:33YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. HOST: THAT'S TOM FROM
01:45:37NASHVILLE. IN JUST 15 MINUTES WE'LL BE LIVE
01:45:40ON CSPAN WITH KASH PATEL AT 9:00 A.M. WHEN HE TESTIFIES IN FRONT
01:45:44OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY
01:45:47COMMITTEE THERE. THERE'S A LIVE PICTURE WAITING
01:45:50FOR THE FBI DIRECTOR TO ARRIVE.
01:45:53AT 10:00 A.M. WE'LL FOLLOW THE
01:46:08DATA CENTER HEARINGS. AND ALSO ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD BLANCHE IS EXPECTED TO HOLD A PRESS BRIEFING IN THE ROSE
01:46:11GARDEN ON TUESDAY.
01:46:12THIS IS A SERIES OF CABINET
01:46:16OFFICIALS HOLDING PRESS BRIEFINGS SINCE THE DEPARTURE OF CAROLINE LEVITT.
01:46:21THERE'S A HEADLINE FROM THE
01:46:23HILL, THAT IS EXPECTED TO HAPPEN LATER TODAY AND WE WILL BE LIVE
01:46:27ON CSPAN NETWORKS SHOWING THAT BRIEFING.
01:46:30SONIA FROM SILVER SPRING, MARYLAND, A DEMOCRAT.
01:46:33GOOD MORNING, SONIA.
01:46:40CALLER: CAN YOU HEAR ME? HOST: SORRY THAT WAS MY FAULT.
01:46:43I DIDN'T PRESS IT. HOW IS IT GOING?
01:46:46CALLER: I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MEETING THAT
01:46:49JUST CONCLUDED AND WHAT THEY'RE
01:46:51TRYING TO DO, ALL THESE WORLD --
01:46:56HOST: THAT'S CHINA, INDIA --
01:46:59CALLER: BRAZIL, RUSSIA, INDIA, SOUTH AFRICA.
01:47:03SO THEY JUST CONCLUDED THEIR
01:47:07MEETING AND WITH THIS
01:47:09ADMINISTRATION AND THE TARIFFS
01:47:11AND JUST HIS POLICIES, IT JUST
01:47:14HAS ACCELERATED THESE COUNTRIES
01:47:19AND OTHER COUNTRIES, EUROPEAN
01:47:20COUNTRIES, CANADA, FROM --
01:47:25DEPENDING ON THE DOLLAR FOR
01:47:27TRADE AND FOR JUST TRANSACTIONS IN GENERAL.
01:47:29AND IT'S GOING TO WEAKEN THE DOLLAR WHILE WE'RE 40 TRILLION
01:47:33DOLLAR IN DEBT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WAS REALLY
01:47:36PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS. IT'S NOT REALLY TALKED ABOUT BUT
01:47:39IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US.
01:47:41IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US IN THE
01:47:43NEXT -- NEXT FIVE YEARS OR LESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN SERIOUS
01:47:47TROUBLE. AND I WISH THERE WAS MORE COVERAGE ON IT.
01:47:51HOST: LOOKING AT A BBC ARTICLE
01:47:53HERE, THE HEADLINE IS IRAN WAR
01:47:57RESHAPES BRIX TIES BUT ALSO EXPOSES DIVISIONS.
01:48:01IT SAYS THIS WEEKEND SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE
01:48:04WORLD GATHER AROUND A TABLE, THE
01:48:08INDIAN PRIME MINISTER ANNOUNCED THAT TOGETHER THE LEASHEDS NEXT
01:48:11TO HIM SHOULD BECOME RULE SHAPERS NOT RULE TAKERS.
01:48:14AMONG THOSE LISTENING WERE
01:48:16MEMBERS OF THE BRICS GROUP,
01:48:19INCLUDING CHINA'S PRESIDENT,
01:48:22RUSSIA'S PRESIDENT, IRAN'S
01:48:27PRESIDENT, ABU DHABI'S CROWN
01:48:31PRINCE, AND SOUTH AFRICA'S PRESIDENT.
01:48:35THESE ARE HARDLY NATURAL ALLIES,
01:48:38THEY HAVE HISTORIES OF BORDER DISPUTES AND MILITARY
01:48:42CONFRONTATIONS, INDIA AND CHINA
01:48:43ENGAGED IN A DEADLY CLASH IN
01:48:462020, IRAN AND UAE HAVE BEEN ON
01:48:49OPPOSING SIDES OF THE WAR IN THE
01:48:51MIDDLE EAST, WITH.
01:48:57SO THERE'S AN ARTICLE ON THAT LATEST BRICS MEETING THAT SONIA
01:49:01WAS DESCRIBING. MARY FROM BALTIMORE, A REPUBLICAN.
01:49:04GOOD MORNING, MARY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:49:08I'M JUST SO UPSET WITH THE FACT
01:49:10THAT TRUMP PROBABLY WILL GO TO
01:49:14THE IRAN BECAUSE OF NETANYAHU,
01:49:19MY SON WAS IN THE VIETNAM WAR AND HE NEVER RECOVERED.
01:49:22HE CAME HOME PHYSICALLY OKAY BUT
01:49:24HE WAS MENTALLY MESSED UP.
01:49:27AND WE WOULD GO TO THE VA FOR
01:49:29APPOINTMENTS AND THEY WOULD GIVE
01:49:32HIM ONE APPOINTMENT IN JUNE AND
01:49:34ANOTHER ONE IN LIKE DECEMBER.
01:49:38HE NEVER GOT WELL AND HE ENDED
01:49:42UP STONED OUT ON DRUGS.
01:49:46HAVING ANOTHER WAR WITH IRAN AND
01:49:47THE GUYS DYING AND COMING BACK
01:49:50MESSED UP AND NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED JUST SICKENS ME
01:49:54AND I THINK TRUMP NEEDS TO GET A
01:49:57BACKBONE AND SAY NO TO
01:50:02NETANYAHU. WE DON'T NEED A WAR IN IRAN. I VOTED FOR HIM.
01:50:05I WON'T VOTE AGAIN. HOST: JIM FROM PENNSYLVANIA, AN
01:50:09INDEPENDENT.
01:50:10CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:50:17WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT AL GREEN
01:50:19WANTING TO IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP. THAT'S A DIVERSION.
01:50:23WE'RE IN THE SIXTH OF A BIPARTISAN COUP.
01:50:27AND BACK IN 2024, THE SUPREME
01:50:32COURT SAID THAT TRUMP COMMITTED INSURRECTION.
01:50:35NOW, UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT,
01:50:39THIRD PROVISION, IF YOU COMMIT
01:50:42INSURRECTION, YOU HAVE TO GET TWO THIRDS OF CONGRESS TO HOLD
01:50:45FEDERAL OFFICE. BACK THEN, THE SUPREME COURT
01:50:48OVERRULED THAT, SET ASIDE THE 14TH AMENDMENT, THEREBY AIDING
01:50:51AND ABETTING INSURRECTION.
01:50:54WE COULD GET RID OF THE SUPREME COURT AND PRESIDENT TRUMP UNDER
01:50:57THE 14TH AMENDMENT'S THIRD PROVISION.
01:51:01THANK YOU. HOST: THAT WAS JIM FROM PENNSYLVANIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
01:51:04WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE IS THE SENATE JUDICIARY HEARING
01:51:07MEETING -- EXCUSE ME, HEARING
01:51:09ROOM FILLING UP AS THEY AWAIT
01:51:13FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL AT 9:00 A.M., YOU CAN WATCH IT LIVE HERE
01:51:17ON CSPAN 3 BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE THE PHOTOGRAPHERS WAITING
01:51:20FOR MR. PATEL TO WALK IN AS WELL
01:51:24AS SOME OF THE SENATE
01:51:27LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING CHUCK
01:51:30GRASSLEY WHO CHAIRS THIS COMMITTEE.
01:51:34COBERT FROM GEORGIA, A DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: YES, MA'AM.
01:51:37I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
01:51:39IF THE DEMOCRATS WIN ALL THE
01:51:43SEATS, WILL TRUMP SWEAR THEM IN?
01:51:48HOST: IT WOULD BE HOUSE SPEAKER
01:51:52MIKE JOHNSON THAT WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.
01:51:55BUT THAT, OF COURSE, IS THE LAW
01:51:57IF YOU WIN, YOU WIN YOUR RACE,
01:52:00THEN YOU BECOME SWORN IN.
01:52:03CALLER: I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
01:52:07HE'LL FIND A WAY AROUND THAT. I JUST HAD THAT QUESTION.
01:52:11THANK YOU, SWEET HEART.
01:52:16HOST: RUSSELL FROM GEORGIA, A REPUBLICAN.
01:52:20GOOD MORNING, RUSSELL.
01:52:22CALLER: MORNING. I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE
01:52:26$5,000 CHECK THAT EVERYONE IS
01:52:28GOING TO GET IF THE HOUSE GOES
01:52:32REPUBLICAN.
01:52:33I'M TOTALLY BELIEVE IT BECAUSE
01:52:40HERBERT SAID A CHICKEN FOR EVERY POT SO I BELIEVE IT.
01:52:43HOST: YOU BELIEVE THE CHECK WILL COME?
01:52:45CALLER: YES, I DO, BECAUSE
01:52:48HOOVER SAID A CHICKEN FOR EVERY POT.
01:52:50CHECK IT OUT, MA'AM. GO RESEARCH IT.
01:52:54YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:52:58HOST: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RUSSELL FROM GEORGIA, A
01:53:01REPUBLICAN. CURTIS FROM CALIFORNIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
01:53:04GOOD MORNING, CURTIS.
01:53:07CALLER: I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW
01:53:09WHY WE HAVE A GERIATRIC
01:53:18PRESIDENT, THAT'S IT. HOST: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
01:53:21CALLER: HE'S A BABY. HE'S A BIG BABY.
01:53:24IF HE DOESN'T GET HIS WAY, HE
01:53:27COMES DOWN ON ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
01:53:30HOST: WHAT DID YOU THINK OF SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL
01:53:32RETURNING TO THE SENATE
01:53:35YESTERDAY AFTER HIS THREE MONTHS ABSENCE AFTER HE SUFFERED A
01:53:39FALL? CALLER: WELL, I THINK HE NEEDS
01:53:42TO RETIRE.
01:53:43HE'S OLD, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT
01:53:47AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TALKING
01:53:50ABOUT ANYMORE.
01:53:52HE'S PAST HIS PRIME, YOU KNOW.
01:53:58I'M 65 AND I'M HURTING, YOU
01:54:03KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO LIVE ANYMORE.
01:54:06I MEAN, I CAN'T AFFORD NOTHING.
01:54:10I'M ON SOCIAL SECURITY.
01:54:13CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE.
01:54:16HOST: DO YOU THINK THERE SHOULD
01:54:18BE AN AGE LIMIT TO BE A MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, THE PRESIDENT?
01:54:22CALLER: YEAH. HOST: SUPREME COURT?
01:54:25CALLER: YEAH.
01:54:26I THINK ABOUT 70, 75, I THINK
01:54:29THAT SHOULD BE IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK -- I'M
01:54:33NOT SAYING EVERYBODY'S, YOU
01:54:37KNOW, DUMB AT 80 OR -- BECAUSE
01:54:41THERE'S A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE
01:54:43OUT THERE THAT ARE OLDER THAN ME.
01:54:47BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING
01:54:50SMART DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY.
01:54:53NOT AT ALL.
01:54:57HOST: THAT'S CURTIS FROM
01:55:00CALIFORNIA, INDEPENDENT.
01:55:02CHRIS FROM PIKESVILLE, MARYLAND,
01:55:05AN INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, CHRIS. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING?
01:55:08HOST: DOING WELL. HOW ABOUT YOU?
01:55:10CALLER: I LIKE HOW YOU HANDLE YOURSELF BEING UNDER PRESSURE.
01:55:14ALL THOSE PEOPLE SAYING WHERE YOU FROM.
01:55:17I LIKE HOW Y'ALL HANDLE YOURSELF
01:55:19WHEN HE TALKED TO YOU LIKE THAT.
01:55:21I WANTED TO SAY THAT FIRST. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT
01:55:24DON JUNIOR, HOW HIS WEDDING WAS
01:55:30PART OF IT WAS PURCHASED BY AN
01:55:33OLIGARCH FROM RUSSIA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY SPOKE
01:55:37ABOUT THAT YET. AND ALSO, THIS IS ONE OF THE
01:55:41BIGGEST SMOKE SCREENS FOR THE
01:55:44EPSTEIN FILE. ALL THIS COMMOTION THAT DONALD
01:55:48TRUMP IS DOING FROM THE BALLROOM
01:55:50TO THE REFLECTING POOL, TO THIS WAR IN IRAN.
01:55:54ALL THIS DEFLECTS FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES.
01:55:58I WANT YOU TO HAVE A WONDERFUL AND STRESS FREE DAY.
01:56:01HOST: CHRIS FROM PIKESVILLE, MAD.
01:56:04I CAN'T PROMISE STRESS FREE BUT I SHALL TRY.
01:56:08JUST THE STORY HE WAS
01:56:10REFERENCING WAS FROM PRO PUBLICA
01:56:15YESTERDAY MORNING.
01:56:17DONALD TRUMP JURY'S BAHAMAS
01:56:20WEDDING WAS SECRETLY BANKROLLED
01:56:22BY RUSSIAN OLIGARCH.
01:56:24IT SAYS MAY 21ST, DONALD TRUMP
01:56:29JR. WAS CELEBRATING IN THE BAH
01:56:36MAS.
01:56:37A FIVE-TIER CAKE HAD BEEN AIR
01:56:41LIFTED IN FROM FLORIDA, GUEST
01:56:43SETTLED INTO THEIR OCEAN FRONTVILLE LAS.
01:56:46THAT'S NIGHT, DONALD TRUMP JR.
01:56:50LIFTED HIS WIFE INTO THE AIR, IT WAS EVERYTHING WE DREAMED OF AND
01:56:53MORE HIS WIFE SAID.
01:56:55THAT WAS HEAVILY FUNDED BY A
01:56:59SECRET BENEFACTOR, AN OLIGARCH
01:57:02CLOSE TO VLADIMIR PUTIN. THERE IS THAT STORY.
01:57:05IT'S MADE ITS WAVES.
01:57:08YOU CAN SEE THE RUSSIAN OLIGARCH
01:57:10ON THE BACK OF YOUR SCREEN RIGHT
01:57:12NOW IN THE PHOTO, IT WAS
01:57:15YESTERDAY IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE.
01:57:19M FROM DAYTON, OHIO A DEMOCRAT.
01:57:22CALLER: EVERYTHING I CALLED IN TO SAY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST CALLED BEFORE ME SAID IT ALL.
01:57:26THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE NOBODY HAD BEEN
01:57:30TALKING ABOUT IT. HOST: ABOUT THE DON JUNIOR STORY?
01:57:34CALLER: YES. HOST: OKAY. CALLER: AND THE EPSTEIN FILES
01:57:38AND ALL THE COVERING UP FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DOING TO
01:57:41KEEP AWAY FROM THAT.
01:57:44IF PEOPLE WOULD REALLY PAY ATTENTION THEY WOULD SEE WHERE
01:57:48THE PRESIDENT AND THE -- I MEAN, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS LEADING
01:57:52US, AND IT'S NOT GOOD.
01:57:55THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD DAY.
01:57:58HOST: THAT'S M FROM DAYTON, OHIO, A DEMOCRAT.
01:58:01ON YOUR SCREEN YOU ARE SEEING
01:58:03THE HEARING ROOM FOR THE SENATE
01:58:06JUDICIARY COMMITTEE FILL UP AHEAD OF THE FBI DIRECTOR, KASH
01:58:09PATEL WHO IS SET TO TESTIFY THERE ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND PRIORITIES.
01:58:13WE'LL BRING THAT OVERSIGHT
01:58:15HEARING TO YOU LIVE STARTING AT
01:58:179:00 A.M. EASTERN ON CSPAN 3.
01:58:19ANOTHER PROGRAMMING NOTE, THIS AFTERNOON, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,
01:58:23KEVIN MCCARTHY, WILL HAVE HIS
01:58:25OFFICIAL PORTRAIT UNVEILED IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING WITH
01:58:29REMARKS BY CURRENT SPEAKER MIKE
01:58:33JOHNSON, FORM EVERY DEMOCRAT LEADER STENY HOYER AND OTHERS ON
01:58:38THE TEN YEAR OF THE 55TH SPEAKER OF THE U.S. HOUSE.
01:58:40WATCH THE UNVEILING LIVE AT 3:00
01:58:43P.M. EASTERN ON CSPAN 3 AND ALSO
01:58:47TOMORROW, JUST THE LAST PROGRAMMING NOTE HERE, TOMORROW
01:58:51WE WILL HAVE, ON WEDNESDAY,
01:58:54FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIR, KEVIN
01:58:57WARSH WILL HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE FOLLOWING THE FED'S
01:59:01DECISION ON WHETHER TO RAISE
01:59:04RATES THAT COMES AFTER THE
01:59:06CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ROSE IN
01:59:09AUGUST AND -- EXCUSE ME, ROSE IN
01:59:12AUGUST A HIGHER RATE THAN EXPECTED.
01:59:15WATCH LIVE FROM D.C. AT 2:30
01:59:17EASTERN ON CSPAN 3.
01:59:21THAT WILL BE TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY
01:59:23AT 2:30, THE KEVIN WARSH.
01:59:27SO FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL IS ENTERING THE HEARING
01:59:31MOMENTARILY. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON YOUR SCREEN
01:59:33RIGHT NOW BEFORE HE TESTIFIES
01:59:36BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
01:59:38AND THAT IS STARTING RIGHT NOW.
01:59:40SO GO AHEAD AND LISTEN.