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00:00:00HERE ARE OUR LIVE COAL IN
00:00:04PROGRAM WASHINGTON JOURNAL DAILY AT 7:00 A.M. EASTERN.
00:00:10LIVE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
00:00:13FOR THE BEST WAY TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON WITH
00:00:16FAST-PACED REPORTS, LIVE INTERVIEWS, AND ANALYSIS OF THE
00:00:20DAY, CATCH WASHINGTON TODAY WEEKDAYS AT 5:00 AND 9:00 P.M. EASTERN.
00:00:27ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. C-SPAN. DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED.
00:00:36>> DEMOCRATIC NEW JERSEY SENATOR CORY BOOKER AND REPUBLICAN
00:00:39LOUISIANA SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY ANNOUNCED THE LAUNCH OF THE
00:00:41SENATE CREATOR CAUCUS AHEAD OF A PANEL WITH INFLUENCERS AND
00:00:45CREATORS ACROSS MANY AND -- INDUSTRIES. THE PANEL DISCUSSED THE
00:00:49DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JOURNALISTS
00:00:52VERSUS CREATORS AND HOW CONTENT CREATORS HAVE SHAPED TO INDUSTRY.
00:00:55THEY REVIEWED TAXATION OF
00:00:57CREATORS AND MICRO INFLUENCERS,
00:01:00PRIVACY CONCERNS AND
00:01:03INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ISSUES. THIS IS JUST OVER ONE HOUR.
00:01:07>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I AM LESLIE MILLER AND I LEAD
00:01:11PUBLIC POLICY FOR YOUTUBE.
00:01:15ON BEHALF OF OUR TEAM AND THE INCREDIBLE CREATORS THAT TRAVELED FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY
00:01:18TO BE HERE TODAY, THANK YOU ALL
00:01:22FOR JOINING US FOR THIS HISTORIC MILESTONE.
00:01:25WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE
00:01:26OFFICIAL LAUNCH OF THE BIPARTISAN SENATE CREATOR
00:01:32CAUCUS, RECOGNIZING DIGITAL
00:01:35CONTENT CREATORS ARE NOT ONLY ONLINE STORYTELLERS, BUT ALSO,
00:01:38INDEPENDENT ENTREPRENEURS, JOB
00:01:42CREATORS, EMPLOYERS, AND ECONOMIC ENGINES DRIVING LOCAL
00:01:46COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR NATION.
00:01:50YOUTUBE'S CREATED INC. -- CREATIVE ECOSYSTEM CONTRIBUTED
00:01:54OVER $60 BILLION INTO THE U.S.
00:01:57GDP IN 2020 FIVE ALONE.
00:02:01AND IT SUPPORTED MORE THAN 540,000 JOBS.
00:02:06BUILDING MOMENTUM FOR CREATORS
00:02:08IN WASHINGTON HAS BEEN A TRUE BIPARTISAN, BICAMERAL EFFORT.
00:02:12PAVING THE WAY WERE OUR
00:02:18CO-SOUNDING CAUCUS COCHAIRS. REPRESENTATIVE YVETTE CLARK.
00:02:24AND REPRESENTATIVE BETH VAN DYNE. I DON'T KNOW IF CONGRESSMAN VAN DYNE -- CONGRESSWOMAN VAN DYNE
00:02:28HAS MADE IT. THE BIPARTISAN COMMITMENT
00:02:32EXPANDS TO THE U.S. SENATE. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO SENATOR CORY
00:02:37BOOKER AND SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY AND THEIR DEDICATED STAFF.
00:02:41THEIR VISION AND LEADERSHIP IN
00:02:42CREATING THE CAUCUS ENSURES
00:02:47AMERICA'S INDEPENDENT, DIGITAL ENTREPRENEURS HAVE A PERMANENT,
00:02:50DEDICATED VOICE IN SENATE POLICY DISCUSSIONS.
00:02:55FOLLOWING OPEN REMARKS FROM OUR
00:02:57SENATE COCHAIRS, WE WILL
00:03:00IMMEDIATELY TRANSITION INTO OUR FEATURED PANEL DISCUSSION
00:03:02MEDIATED BY -- MODERATED BY DYLAN WELLS OF THE WASHINGTON
00:03:06POST WHERE YOU WILL HEAR FIRSTHAND FROM A WIDE-RANGING
00:03:10GROUP OF CREATORS ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO SCALE A DIGITAL
00:03:16ENTERPRISE, MANAGEMENT TEAMS, NONDIRECT -- NAVIGATE THE UNIQUE
00:03:18HEADWINDS FACING MODERN INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES.
00:03:24PLEASE, JOIN ME NOW IN GIVING A WARM WELCOME TO OUR SENATE
00:03:29CREATOR CAUCUS COCHAIRS, SENATOR
00:03:33BOOKER AND SENATOR KENNEDY. THANK YOU.
00:03:40SEN. BOKER: THIS IS AN EXCITING
00:03:47MOMENT AND TURN OUT AND I WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF GRATITUDE TO
00:03:51THE GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT, WITH SOME PUN INTENDED.
00:03:56WE ARE DIFFERENT PARTIES AND THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE TRIBALISM OF OUR COUNTRY.
00:03:59BUT WE HAVE FOUND WAYS TO DO
00:04:04MEANINGFUL WORK TOGETHER. NOTHING OVERSHADOWS WHAT WE ARE
00:04:05A PART OF HERE, CREATING THIS CAUCUS. WITH ALL OF YOU.
00:04:10WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH. THE WORLD IS CHANGING.
00:04:16THERE IS A REVOLUTION GOING ON
00:04:18WHEN IT COMES TO USING ONLINE
00:04:22PLATFORMS. FOR SUCH A VARIETY OF POSSIBILITIES.
00:04:25MANY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS HEADED.
00:04:28BUT THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE
00:04:33HELPING LEAD THE WAY. RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES
00:04:35OF AMERICA, THE TIME MANY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES
00:04:39WITHIN OUR ECONOMY, YOU ARE PART OF CREATING AN ENTIRELY NEW ECONOMIC SECTOR.
00:04:45IT IS USING PLATFORMS IN THE MOST INGENIOUS WAYS.
00:04:48I KNOW IN MY PERSONAL LIFE I HAVE DEVELOPED -- DONE
00:04:50EVERYTHING FROM PICK UP BOOKS I
00:04:53WOULD NOT HAVE PICKED UP.
00:04:56IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE I FOLLOW ONLINE.
00:04:59I HAVE BUILT -- BOUGHT PRODUCTS.
00:05:03I HAVE COME AS A U.S. SENATOR, AND I KNOW MY STAFF MEMBERS CAN
00:05:06TESTIFY TO THIS, TAKEN CONTENT I
00:05:10SAW ONLINE AND SENT IT TO MY POLICY TEAM TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS.
00:05:15WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
00:05:18THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY GROUP OF PEOPLE CRISSCROSSING THE
00:05:20COUNTRY EXPANDING POSSIBILITY,
00:05:24EXPANDING AWARENESS, EXPANDING JOBS, EXPANDING ECONOMIC
00:05:27ACTIVITY, EXPANDING ART AND EXPRESSION AND SO MUCH MORE.
00:05:32HERE IS THE URGENCY I SHARE WITH MY FRIEND, THE URGENCY I SEE.
00:05:38THERE ARE SWARMS OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO WASHINGTON FROM EVERY
00:05:42SECTOR OF MARGINABLE TO LOBBY US
00:05:46TO GET US TO SUPPORT
00:05:48LEGISLATION, WRITE LEGISLATION, FIGHT AGAINST LEGISLATION, WHO
00:05:51ADVOCATE TO US, WHO COME TO CREATE AWARENESS FOR US.
00:05:56SOME -- SO MANY PEOPLE COME DOWN, AND MANY OF THOSE
00:05:59INDUSTRIES OR INDIVIDUALS ARE
00:06:02PART OF ORGANIZED GROUPS THAT ARE ABLE TO LOBBY AND ADVOCATE FOR THEIR SECTOR.
00:06:08IT'S INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT THIS SECTOR, THE CREATOR ECONOMY, BY
00:06:11THE END OF THE DECADE, COULD BE
00:06:14PART OF $1 TRILLION OF ECONOMIC
00:06:16ACTIVITY AND IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE INNUMERABLE,
00:06:20IMMEASURABLE IMPACT YOU ARE HAVING ON CULTURE, BUSINESS, AND SO MANY SECTORS.
00:06:25YET, WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED
00:06:29CAUCUS IN THE U.S. SENATE FOCUSED ON LISTENING AND HEARING
00:06:33AND WORKING TO COBBLE TOGETHER A
00:06:35COMMON AGENDA THAT CAN EMPOWER
00:06:38ALL OF YOU IN YOUR DRIVE IN YOUR
00:06:41PURPOSE, IN HOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SERVE AND HELP OUR LARGER SOCIETY.
00:06:45SO WE ARE EXCITED AND HOPEFUL.
00:06:49AS A PERSON THAT SINCE THE DAWN OF SOCIAL MEDIA HAS BEEN USING
00:06:54THESE PLATFORMS, BACK WHEN I WAS A MAYOR IN 2009, I WAS ABLE TO
00:06:58START USING THE DIGITAL PLATFORMS TO CREATE CONTENT FOR
00:07:03MY CITIZENS WHO I TOLD THEM,
00:07:06TWEET ME ABOUT ANY PROBLEM IN THE CITY. I HAVE TWEETS ABOUT POTHOLES.
00:07:10I HAVE TWEETS ABOUT CHALLENGES.
00:07:13WE SHOWED THEM A WAY TO CREATE MORE RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT.
00:07:16IT WAS A CREATIVE USE OF THE PLATFORM AT THAT TIME UNTIL
00:07:19PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES STARTED TEXTING ME TO FIX THEIR POTHOLES.
00:07:24SOME GUY FROM DUBLIN IT TWEETED ME AND SAID, I'VE GOT A BOTTLE.
00:07:30ICE -- GOT A POT HOLE.
00:07:34I SAID, I'VE GOT 99 PROBLEMS AND
00:07:38YOUR DITCH ANTOINE.
00:07:43I AM -- AINT ONE.
00:07:47WE NEED TO SET FORWARD A VISION, AND AGENDA OF HOW WE CAN WORK
00:07:51TOGETHER TO DO SOME GOOD IN THE WORLD. IF THERE IS ANYTHING I FEEL LIKE
00:07:55WE NEED TO DO MORE OF IT IS
00:07:56FINDING COMMON CAUSE BETWEEN SO MUCH OF THE REFLEXIVE TRIBALISM
00:08:00DIVIDING THE COUNTRY. I BELIEVE THAT THE LINES THAT
00:08:04DIVIDE US ARE NOT AS STRONG AS THE TIES THAT BIND US AND IN THAT SPIRIT I AM GRATEFUL TO BE
00:08:10HERE IN COMMON CAUSE WITH MY FRIEND, SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY.
00:08:16SEN. KENNEDY: I WANT TO THANK MY
00:08:24FRIEND, SENATOR BOOKER.
00:08:28HE IS THE PRIME MINISTER OF COOL.
00:08:34SEN. BOOKER: SOMEBODY PLEASE HAVE RECORDED DATA.
00:08:38SEN. KENNEDY: IT'S TRUE.
00:08:41WE SIT ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TOGETHER IN JUDICIARY
00:08:44IS A VERY ACTIVE COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW THIS.
00:08:48HE IS A SERVICE MAN.
00:08:52-- SERIOUS MAN AND A SERIOUS LEGISLATOR.
00:08:56HE EXERCISES POWER MATERIALLY.
00:09:00NOT EVERY IN THAT -- EVERYBODY IN THIS PLACE DOES.
00:09:04HE ASKED ME TO WORK WITH HIM ON
00:09:09THIS CONCEPT, THE IDEA. I WAS SO HAPPY TO DO IT.
00:09:14I AM FROM LOUISIANA.
00:09:18I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT ASK YOU TO COME VISIT US.
00:09:22YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME. LOUISIANA HAS THE BEST FOOD IN
00:09:25THE WORLD, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS.
00:09:32WHEN YOU PASS A DITCH, YOU LOOK
00:09:35AT IT AND GO, THERE IS A DITCH. WHEN WE PASSED A DITCH IN
00:09:40LOUISIANA, WE SEE DINNER, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU COOK IT.
00:09:44YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN LOUISIANA.
00:09:48I SO ADMIRE WHAT YOU DO.
00:09:57I'M NOT SURE YOU REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT WHAT YOU DO IS.
00:10:03THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IN SOME
00:10:08RESPECTS, THE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD NOW GET TO INFORMATION FROM YOU.
00:10:15THEY USED TO GET IT FROM NEWSPAPERS.
00:10:19THAT HAS CHANGED.
00:10:23I AM NOT HERE TO DENIGRATE NEWSPAPERS.
00:10:27WE STILL HAVE WONDERFUL NEWSPAPERS.
00:10:30I READ THE WASHINGTON POST AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.
00:10:34I READ THE ECONOMIST MAGAZINE.
00:10:38I READ LOCAL PAPERS. BUT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED.
00:10:41FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM, THERE ARE A DOZEN OF YOU.
00:10:47YOU WOULD NOT SURVIVE IF PEOPLE DID NOT READ YOU.
00:10:51WHAT CAN GOVERNMENT DO FOR YOU?
00:10:54FRANKLY, THE BEST THING GOVERNMENT CAN DO FOR YOU IS LEAVE YOU ALONE AND I MEAN THAT.
00:10:59YOU DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT
00:11:02INVOLVED IN WHAT YOU SAY AND HOW YOU SAY IT. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.
00:11:06DO YOU KNOW WHO WILL DETERMINE
00:11:10WHETHER YOU SUCCEED OR FAIL? YOUR AUDIENCE.
00:11:13THEY WILL VOTE WITH THEIR FEET FOR THEIR CLICK.
00:11:20GOVERNMENT SHOULD AND CAN PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS.
00:11:24THAT WILL BECOME MORE AND MORE
00:11:29AND MORE IMPORTANT.
00:11:33HOPEFULLY, IT IS ONE OF THE
00:11:33ISSUES THAT AS A GROUP WE CAN
00:11:38HELP YOU ADDRESS.
00:11:40THE FINAL POINT I MAKE IS WITH
00:11:49SUCCESS -- AND YOU HAVE HAD IT, GOES RESPONSIBILITY.
00:11:54OK?
00:11:57I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, AS CORY
00:12:01POINTED OUT, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET
00:12:05THEIR FACTS, THEIR OPINIONS, THEIR INFORMATION, FROM YOU.
00:12:10I KNOW THAT IS THE MORE PEOPLE
00:12:13YOU, THE MOWER -- MORE APPARENT AS THAT IS FOR YOU.
00:12:18IT HELPS YOU SURVIVE AND PAY THE BILLS. I GET ALL THAT.
00:12:23BUT IT IS A SERIOUS, SERIOUS, RESPONSIBILITY.
00:12:26DO NOT EVER, EVER UNDERESTIMATE
00:12:31THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TRUTH. I BELIEVE IN THE DIALECTIC.
00:12:37A COMPETITION OF IDEAS. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO.
00:12:40SOME OF YOU SEE IT THIS WAY AND OTHERS OF YOU SEE IT THIS WAY. YOU COMPETE.
00:12:46THROUGH THE DIALECTIC, WE GET
00:12:47THE TRUE SPIRIT I CAN TELL YOU
00:12:52HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. I AM HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THIS. I MEAN IT.
00:12:57I WISH I WROTE AS WELL AS MANY
00:13:00OF YOU DO AND I WISH I SPOKE AS WELL AS MANY OF YOU DO.
00:13:03I ADMIRE WHAT YOU DO. I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU.
00:13:06THANK YOU FOR DOING IT, BUT DO
00:13:10NOT FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY YOU HAVE, NOT JUST TO THE
00:13:14AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.
00:13:18SO, I'M GOING TO SIT IN THE BACK AND LISTEN TO YOUR GREAT
00:13:21PANELISTS TODAY AND STAY AS LONG
00:13:26AS I CAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE A PART OF THIS AND I WANT
00:13:29TO THANK SENATOR BOOKER.
00:13:33DID I MENTION HE IS THE PRIME MINISTER OF COOL?
00:13:36AND HE'S GOT A BIG BRAIN TOO, A
00:13:39BIG BRAIN.
00:13:43THANK YOU ALL.
00:13:48>> ARE THESE ON? AMAZING.
00:13:51THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. WE HAVE A GREAT, VERY LARGE PANEL.
00:13:56WE ARE HOPING TO GET INTO ALL YOUR EXPERTISE.
00:13:59I AM DYLAN WELLS AND I COVER CREATORS AT THE WASHINGTON POST.
00:14:02MY MANDATE IS TO BRIDGE THE GAP
00:14:05BETWEEN CREATOR JOURNALISM AND TRADITIONAL MEDIA AND COVER THE
00:14:08POWER CREATORS HAVE TODAY AND HOW YOU WERE ALL RESHAPING
00:14:12DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. IN TODAY'S INSTANCE, RESHAPING POLICY. YOU HAVE A LOT TO GET INTO.
00:14:18CREATORS EXIST IN EVERY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT UNDER THE COUNTRY AND I WOULD LIKE TO
00:14:21START WITH YOU, AVERY.
00:14:25BECAUSE YOU COME FROM SENATOR KENNEDY'S HOME STATE OF
00:14:27LOUISIANA WHERE YOU ARE THE CEO OF THE LOUISIANA CRAWFISH COMPANY.
00:14:32HOW DO YOU TURN A SEAFOOD BUSINESS INTO COMPELLING CONTENT?
00:14:36HOW HAS IT BEING A CREATOR
00:14:38TRANSFORMED HER FAMILY BUSINESS INTO THE NATIONWIDE BRAND WE SEE TODAY?
00:14:44>> DAD IS A LOADED QUESTION.
00:14:47THAT IS UNLOCKED. I AM WITH THE LOUISIANA CRAWFISH COMPANY.
00:14:54WE WERE A BIT DIFFERENT. WE MAY BE A BIT DIFFERENT TO
00:14:58THAT OTHER CREATORS HERE BECAUSE
00:15:00, FOR US, THE BUSINESS CAME FIRST. MY DAD STARTED IN 1985.
00:15:05WE HAVE FOUR DECADES OF BUSINESS UNDER OUR BELT AND WE HAVE
00:15:08REALLY ONLY -- ONLY TAKEN A DEEP DIVE INTO CONTENT THE LAST THREE OR FIVE YEARS.
00:15:14THIS HAS BROADENED OUR REACH. NOT JUST FOR CUSTOMERS.
00:15:17FOR PEOPLE THAT DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR US.
00:15:21WE CAN PUT AN AD OUT AND IF SOMEBODY TYPES IN, BY LOUISIANA CRAWFISH.
00:15:27MAYBE THERE IS A GUY IN CALIFORNIA SCROLLING COOKING
00:15:30VIDEOS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO COOK THAT WEEKEND.
00:15:34THIS NATURALLY LETS PEOPLE FIND US THAT MIGHT NOT BE LOOKING.
00:15:38>> AND FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT SEEN YOUR CONTENT, THIS IS NOT COOKING CONTENT.
00:15:44IT IS HUNTING CRAWFISH. THERE ARE LOTS OF CREEPY CRAWLIES.
00:15:49AND YOU ARE SHIPPING THESE LIVE NATIONWIDE. >> YES.
00:15:54MY HUSBAND AND OUR TEENAGE SON ARE THE FACE OF THE CONTENT.
00:15:57IT'S ON THE FARM, IN THE BOAT, CATCHING THE CRAWFISH, IN THE
00:16:01WAREHOUSE, PACKING AND SHIPPING. OUR CUSTOMERS GET TO SEE, START
00:16:05TO FINISH, POND TO TABLE.
00:16:09>> SPEAKING OF CRITTERS OF VARIOUS SORTS, MARK, YOUR
00:16:12CONTENT IS LESS CLOSE TO HOME.
00:16:16YOU ARE TRAVELING NONSTOP AS THE
00:16:18CEO AND HOST OF BRAVE WILDERNESS
00:16:22, PRODUCING WILDLIFE CONSERVATION CONTENT RANGING
00:16:24FROM THE VERY CUTE, WITH ONE OF
00:16:27MY FAVORITES, TO THE SNAKES AND
00:16:30THE BUGS THAT YOU THUMBNAILS AT SOME NAILS REALLY STOP ME IN MY
00:16:34TRACKS.
00:16:37YOU ARE SEEING ALL THE DIFFERENT CREATURES.
00:16:41IT WAS A VERY HIGH PRODUCTION CONTENT.
00:16:44YOU WERE TRAVELING, DEALING WITH DIFFERENT INTERNATIONAL
00:16:48GOVERNMENTS. A FULL CREW. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE
00:16:52LOGISTICS THAT GO INTO THE BUILDING THAT SORT OF MEDIA
00:16:55COMPANY AS A CREATOR FOR YOU HAVE UNLOCKED MORE THAN 22
00:17:01MILLION FOLLOWERS ON YOUTUBE ALONE? >> THANK YOU.
00:17:04IT HAS BEEN A JOURNEY. ACTUALLY, TODAY WE ARE
00:17:07CELEBRATING 12 YEARS ON THE PLATFORM ON YOUTUBE.
00:17:11IT HAS BEEN OVER ONE DECADE OF EXPEDITIONS AROUND THE WORLD.
00:17:15LIKE MOST YOUTUBE CREATORS, WE
00:17:18HAD A VERY HUMBLE BEGINNINGS.
00:17:20WE STARTED WITH ZERO SUBSCRIBERS
00:17:24IN 2014 AND BUILT OUR NETWORK, ONE PERSON AT A TIME, REALLY.
00:17:30WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR GRASS ROOTS ARE RURAL OHIO, CATCHING
00:17:35FARM POND TURTLES, NOW, SWIMMING
00:17:37IN THE GALAPAGOS WITH SHARKS, THAT DID NOT JUST HAPPEN WITH A
00:17:40SINGLE VIDEO UPLOAD. IT WAS THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS AND INTERACTIONS.
00:17:44REALLY, TRYING TO REACH OUR AUDIENCE IN WAYS THAT MADE OUR
00:17:47CONTENT OF THE MOST AUTHENTIC STORIES WE COULD POSSIBLY TELL.
00:17:54IN TERMS OF THE LOGISTICS OF GOING SOMEWHERE LIKE THE GALAPAGOS, THAT IS WHEN YOU
00:17:57ASCEND TO A LARGER TEAM.
00:18:02YOU HAVE BUILT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND RELATIONSHIPS OF TRUST THAT ALLOW YOU TO GO TO A PLACE LIKE THAT.
00:18:08REALLY, IT IS ALL COMING FROM THE SAME THING ONCE THE EARLY
00:18:12DAYS, A PLACE OF CURIOSITY, WANTING TO MAKE CONTENT WHICH
00:18:14WILL MAKE OUR SUBSCRIBERS AND
00:18:18OUR AUDIENCE FEEL THE LOVE OF WILDLIFE AND NATURE, JUST LIKE US.
00:18:21>> HOW BIG IS YOUR COMPANY TODAY? HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE EMPLOYED?
00:18:26>> TODAY WE HAVE 16 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
00:18:29THAT IS JUST IN THE PEOPLE THAT WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY AT BRAVE WILDERNESS.
00:18:34WE HAVE AN ENTIRE EXTERIOR NETWORK OF CONTRACTORS AND
00:18:38PARTNERS AND AGENTS, AND MANAGERS, AND PEOPLE THROUGHOUT
00:18:42THE INDUSTRY THAT MAKE BRAVE WILDERNESS HAPPENED. WHILE IT IS AMAZING TO BE IN
00:18:46FRONT OF THE AUDIENCE TALKING ABOUT OUR CHANNEL, IT IS NOT
00:18:49JUST MYSELF OR MY COHOST, COYOTE, YOU MAKE THE CONTENT.
00:18:54IT IS A TEAM, A VILLAGE OF PEOPLE, WHO BRING BRAVE WILDERNESS TO A GLOBAL AUDIENCE.
00:19:00>> YOU HAVE ALSO BUILT A MASSIVE, INDEPENDENT MEDIA OPERATION.
00:19:05REALLY, YOU PIONEERED THE
00:19:09PODCAST AND BROADCAST SPACE. ONE THING I FIND INTERESTING ABOUT YOUR STORY IS HOW MUCH YOU
00:19:13HAVE FOCUSED ON RETAINING YOUR CONTROL AND MAINTAINING INDEPENDENCE THINKING ABOUT
00:19:16DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, AND HOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SCALE.
00:19:20TALK ABOUT WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND HOW YOU HAVE ACTUALLY GONE ABOUT
00:19:24RETAINING THE CONTROL? >> DYLAN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
00:19:28I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO SENATOR
00:19:32BOOKER FOR REPRESENTING NEW
00:19:35JERSEY CREATORS AND CREATING THIS CAUCUS, WHICH IS A VERY
00:19:39IMPORTANT MOMENT AND A CELEBRATORY MOMENT FOR CREATORS,
00:19:43LIKE EVERYBODY HERE ON STAGE AND ANYONE WATCHING.
00:19:48CONTROL IS AN INTERESTING THING. IN THE CONTENT WORLD, WHEN YOU
00:19:52DO NOT HAVE CONTROL, YOU ARE
00:19:55MORE LIKELY TO CRUMBLE TO THE
00:19:58PRESSURES OF ADVERTISERS AND EXCLUSIVE LICENSORS.
00:20:01FOR US, MAINTAINING CONTROL IS A
00:20:08FOUNDATIONAL PIECE TO THE BUSINESS WE SAW MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.
00:20:11THIS DID NOT ALLOW US TO CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY, BUILD A
00:20:14RELATIONSHIP WITH FANS WE WANTED TO BUILD.
00:20:17MOST IMPORTANTLY IT ALLOWED US
00:20:22TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE
00:20:22CONTENT AND CHANNEL THAT ARE
00:20:26GOING TO KEEP US IN THE BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME TO COME AND CREATE LONGEVITY WITH WHAT WE
00:20:30ARE BUILDING.
00:20:33I THINK CONTROL IS A SYMBOL OF A
00:20:36CREATORS OF FREEDOM TO DO AND PUT OUT WHAT THEY PLEASE AND CHOOSE.
00:20:40IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
00:20:43>> FOR FOLKS HOPE -- WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR, YOU HAVE RAISED THE
00:20:47CURTAIN ON WHAT THE FINANCIAL REALITY LOOKS LIKE.
00:20:50I BELIEVE IT WAS MORE THAN $20 MILLION YOU GENERATED LAST YEAR.
00:20:55THAT IS THE SCALE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN CREATOR COMPANIES. WHAT DOES YOUR COMPANY LOOK LIKE
00:20:59NOW IN TERMS OF STAFF AND THE
00:21:04BEHIND-THE-SCENES STUFF GOING INTO PRODUCING THIS?
00:21:05>> WELL, LOOK, THE NETWORK IS --
00:21:12IT HAS GROWN SO MUCH AND EXPANDED SO MUCH OVER THE LAST DECADE.
00:21:17BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH WE HAVE SEEN, THE CONNECTIONS WE HAVE MADE, THE AUDIENCE WE BUILT.
00:21:24YES, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS FINANCIALLY.
00:21:27IT DID NOT COME WITHOUT TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS. IT DID NOT COME WITHOUT FAILURES.
00:21:31IT DID NOT COME WITHOUT US
00:21:33FIGURING OUT HOW TO GO -- GROW
00:21:36FROM A 1, 2, THREE MAN OPERATION TO HAVING DOZENS OF CONTRACTORS
00:21:40ALL OVER THE GLOBE, MAKING AN
00:21:44IMPRINT FINANCIALLY, NOT ONLY IN NEW JERSEY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE U.S. AND GLOBALLY AS WELL.
00:21:49>> YOU STARTED IN TRADITIONAL MEDIA BEFORE GOING OUT ON YOUR OWN.
00:21:54CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE TRANSITION LOOKED LIKE AND WHY YOU FELT IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME?
00:22:00WHAT IS IT LIKE, NOW APPROACHING THINGS AS AN INDEPENDENT MEDIA
00:22:03COMPANY YOURSELVES VERSUS COMING
00:22:06FROM THE TYPE OF NEWSROOM SOME OF US ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH?
00:22:09>> IT HAS BEEN CRAZY, SCARY, INTIMIDATING, AND AWESOME.
00:22:14I LEARNED A WHOLE DIFFERENT SIDE OF MYSELF.
00:22:16I WAS IN IT FOR 30 YEARS. DO THE MATH.
00:22:21LOCAL TV, REGIONAL TV, NATIONAL.
00:22:25I REALLY HAD NO DESIRE TO DO ANY OF THIS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE IT SCARED ME.
00:22:29I THOUGHT, NO, I'M A REALLY GOOD
00:22:32EMPLOYEE. RUNNING A BUSINESS.
00:22:36SO WHY WOULD I?
00:22:40LITERALLY, I HAD TO COMPLETELY RETHINK THE WAY I WANTED TO DO LIFE.
00:22:45AT 50 PLUS YEARS OLD.
00:22:47IT HAS BEEN AT JUST OVER TWO YEARS FOR ME.
00:22:51THE BUSINESS SIDE HAS BEEN THE MOST INTIMIDATING PART OF IT.
00:22:55MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR A YEAR.
00:22:58ONE YEAR IN, GUYS. A YEAR AND A WEEK.
00:23:02FORTUNATELY, HE DOES KNOW A LOT
00:23:07ABOUT BUSINESS. HE IS A FORMER CEO IN THE TECH INDUSTRY.
00:23:11I'M LIKE, BECAUSE THE LEFT BRAIN IS ALL I'VE GOD, LET'S FOCUS
00:23:14OVER THERE AND FROM A PRODUCING BACKGROUND, THAT IS HOW I STARTED.
00:23:20IT IS EXTREMELY INTIMIDATING AND I WATCH ALL OF YOU AND I GO, HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
00:23:26I DID NOT REALIZE HOW I HAD BEEN FOR 30 YEARS, TRYING TO BE A
00:23:29JOURNALIST WHERE MY OPINION DID NOT MATTER. IT SHOULD NOT MATTER.
00:23:34IT IS DIFFERENT A LITTLE BIT IN SPORTS, BUT AS A SPORTS
00:23:37JOURNALIST FOR 30 YEARS, IT IS NOT ABOUT ME.
00:23:40MY JOB IS TO TELL YOU THE STORY
00:23:42IS BASED ON THE HIGHLIGHTS, SCORES, REACTION, AND INTERVIEWS
00:23:46AND I NEED TO STAY OUT OF IT. BUT THEN SWITCHED TO, MY OPINION
00:23:50DOES MATTER.
00:23:53THERE IS SUCH FREEDOM.
00:23:55IN THAT, TO SAY, I WILL SAY THIS AND STAND BY IT.
00:24:00BUT THE ENTIRE GOAL OF IT, FOR ME, WAS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
00:24:05THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS MISSING. WE ARE IN WASHINGTON, D.C..
00:24:09THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING.
00:24:13HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WITH WHOM YOU DISAGREE.
00:24:15THAT IS WHAT THE GOAL OF MY SHOW WAS AND IS.
00:24:18NOW IT IS LIKE, WAIT. CAN I EXPAND? CAN I DO MORE?
00:24:24I AM LIVING IN A FEAR OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
00:24:27TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, ZERO FOLLOWERS.
00:24:32WHO WILL DO THIS? WHO WILL LISTEN?
00:24:34THEY WILL SAY, SHE IS A WASHED UP OLD SPORTS CHEEK.
00:24:38YOU DON'T REALIZE THE POWER OF TRYING, FALLING ON HER FACE, GETTING BACK UP AND REALIZING
00:24:42YOU CAN BRING OTHERS WITH YOU,
00:24:45AND IF YOU DO NOT, WHAT A WASTE OF I THINK IN GOD-GIVEN PLATFORMS WE HAVE.
00:24:50IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME AND MY HUSBAND.
00:24:52I HAVE THREE KIDS, 24, 23, AND
00:24:5520 WHO WISH I WOULD SHUT UP AND
00:24:57START GIVING MIGHT JUST STOP GIVING MY OPINIONS ON THINGS.
00:25:01I AM REALIZING THE POWER OF THAT TOO.
00:25:04THAT JUST BY TRYING TO SPEAK UP IN A KIND WAY -- WE DON'T HAVE
00:25:07TO BE UGLY AND DIVISIVE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS -- WE ARE TEACHING
00:25:10THOSE AFTER US TO DO THE SAME AS
00:25:14SAYING AND CREATE MORE CONVERSATIONS. IT HAS BEEN A CRAZY QUICK JOURNEY HERE THE LAST COUPLE
00:25:18YEARS. >> THERE IS SO MUCH DEBATE NOW
00:25:21ABOUT WHETHER CREATORS ARE JOURNALISTS AND THE
00:25:25DISTINCTIONS. WHERE DO YOU FALL THINKING ABOUT JOURNALISTS VERSUS CREATORS?
00:25:29IS IT THAT AN ACTUAL AND/OR OR
00:25:33DO YOU HOLD THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES NOW YOU ARE INDEPENDENT?
00:25:39>> WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.
00:25:41AND I DON'T THINK OF MYSELF AS A JOURNALIST ANYMORE. I DON'T.
00:25:47ONCE YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION, YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY BIASED.
00:25:51THAT'S OK. JUST OWN IT.
00:25:53I WAS AT ESPN MY LAST ALMOST 17 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT, ALONG THE
00:25:56WAY, THAT WAS ONE OF MY ISSUES.
00:26:01ARE STEPHEN A. SMITH AND YOU ARE.
00:26:04TO GIVE YOUR OPINION.
00:26:08BUT AS A JOURNALIST IT IS ABOUT
00:26:11TAKING THE FACTS AND ASKING RESPONSIBLE QUESTIONS.
00:26:14THEN REACT TO THAT WITH GOOD FOLLOW UP IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING AND DOING YOUR JOB.
00:26:18THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING.
00:26:20I HAVE THAT BACKGROUND OF CURIOSITY AND ASKING QUESTIONS
00:26:24AND HOPEFULLY IT LEADS TO GOOD CONVERSATIONS.
00:26:27I THINK PEOPLE ACROSS THE LINES
00:26:31WAITED TOO MUCH. IF YOU ARE AT ONE OF THESE
00:26:35MAINSTREAM MEDIA NETWORKS, CERTAINLY, IN CERTAIN AREAS OF
00:26:38DISK SPACE WITH STREAMING AND CREATOR CONTENT, MAKING
00:26:42CONCERTED EFFORT TO DO YOUR JOB
00:26:44RESPONSIBLY WITH THE FACTS, AND GO FROM THERE.
00:26:47>> MATT, I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ALWAYS AT THE CAPITOL.
00:26:51I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MAY BE MY THIRD TIME SEEING YOU HERE.
00:26:55>> WE RETIRED TWO YEARS AGO OFF THE PLATFORM AND DID WHAT ALL
00:26:59OLD RETIREES DO, GET INTO POLITICS. THAT'S NOT MEANT TO OFFEND
00:27:03ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, BY THE WAY. YOU GUYS ARE THE COOL GUYS.
00:27:08I HEARD SENATOR BOOKER IS THE KING OF COOL. >> YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH THE
00:27:12LAUNCH OF THE CREATOR CAUCUS ON THE HOUSE SIDE. YOU MENTIONED YOUR RETIREMENT.
00:27:16IF YOU FOUNDED A MEDIA COMPANY, BIG CHANNEL.
00:27:20AND THEN YOU SET THE PRECEDENT IN REAL-TIME BY SELLING IT.
00:27:23WHAT IS ONE THING YOU THINK POLICYMAKERS HERE NEED TO KNOW
00:27:26ABOUT THE TYPE OF CREATOR OPERATIONS YOU HAVE BUILT WHERE
00:27:29YOU AREN'T JUST BUILDING AN
00:27:30AUDIENCE, BUT A COMPANY THAT CAN
00:27:33SUSTAIN AFTER YOU ARE NO LONGER YOURSELF TIED TO IT.
00:27:38>> FIRST, I THINK THAT MOMENTS LIKE THIS ARE HUGE IN THE GOAL OF PROVING LEGITIMACY.
00:27:43WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE CREATOR EXPERIMENT NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
00:27:49YOUTUBE CROSSED THE 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY, BUT ONLY NOW ARE CREATORS BEING SEEN AS A VIABLE
00:27:53CREATIVE FORCE, A VIABLE SOURCE
00:27:57OF INFORMATION, THE NEXT GENERATION OF ENTERTAINMENT.
00:27:59BUT IT HAS BEEN TWO DECADES THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
00:28:02IT'S GREAT WE ARE HERE AND HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. BUT WE ARE STILL BEHIND THE BALL.
00:28:07THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
00:28:09MY PARTNER, STEPHANIE, AND I ARE IN WASHINGTON SO MUCH.
00:28:13BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TIME TO TRANSLATE OUR WORLD TO THIS
00:28:16WORLD, TO SHOW THAT, HEY, GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE BEEN
00:28:19FAMILIAR WITH PRODUCTION
00:28:23STUDIOS, MEDIA COMPANIES, HOLLYWOOD FOR YEARS.
00:28:25THIS IS JUST A NEW ITERATION OF THIS. WHAT YOU SAW AND NO LOVE AS SHOW
00:28:31RUNNERS ARE JUST ALGORITHMS NOW.
00:28:33WHAT WERE VIEWS ON YOUTUBE OR
00:28:35VIEWS ON TELEVISION NOWADAYS.
00:28:40THERE A LOT OF COMMONALITIES HERE.
00:28:42WHEN ALL YOU ARE DEALING WITH IN
00:28:45THE HEADLINES IS YOUTUBE PRANK? DOES IT THIS OR CREATOR X DOES
00:28:48BAD THING, IT CASTS THE ENTIRE
00:28:52SPACE IN A VERY NEGATIVE LIGHT WHEN IN ACTUALITY WE ARE THE
00:28:55NEXT ITERATION OF MEDIA STUDIOS,
00:28:58JOB CREATORS, SMALL BUSINESS STUDIOS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A TAX CODE.
00:29:03IT IS HARD FOR US TO GET LOANS BECAUSE THE BANK DOES NOT THINK
00:29:06THIS IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.
00:29:10HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOUSE AND SENATE OPENS DOORS AND
00:29:12GIVES DEFINITIONS TO THE SPACE
00:29:14TO SHOW WE ARE A FORCE WORTHY OF
00:29:18PAYING ATTENTION TO, AND ECONOMIC FORCE THAT IS VERY SIZABLE AND ONLY GROWING.
00:29:24AND TO BE HONEST, THE NET -- NEXT GENERATION OF EMPLOYMENT FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:29:29BEING A CREATOR IS THE MOST
00:29:33DESIRED JOB IN AMERICA NOW. THAT'S THE TRUTH.
00:29:37FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THIS IS THE FIRST PAYCHECK THEY ARE GETTING.
00:29:42THE PLATFORMS ARE HANDING OUT PAYCHECKS TO KIDS THAT HAVE
00:29:44NEVER DONE THEIR TAXES BEFORE,
00:29:46LET ALONE BE SO LOW ENTREPRENEURS FIGURING OUT WHAT
00:29:49IT MEANS TO BE AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, TO RECEIVE THAT.
00:29:53SO IF WE CAN PAVE THE WAY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, ALL SHIPS RISE.
00:29:57WE ALL SUCCEED.
00:29:59>> WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST SURPRISING LEARNING FOR YOU
00:30:02SINCE LAST SUMMER WHEN YOU LAUNCHED THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE
00:30:06CAUCUS? WHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING TO
00:30:10LEARN ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO HOW D.C. OPERATES WITH REGARDS TO
00:30:14CREATORS. >> ONE THING SENATOR BOOKER BROUGHT UP IS CREATORS FALL
00:30:17THROUGH THE CRACKS.
00:30:21PLATFORMS HAVE LOBBYISTS ALL AROUND WASHINGTON ADVOCATING FOR THE PLATFORMS.
00:30:25YOU HAVE HOLLYWOOD ADVOCATING FOR HOLLYWOOD.
00:30:29CREATORS ARE NOT A UNIFIED FORCE. WE DON'T HAVE A CREAT --
00:30:34COLLECTIVE UNIT THAT CAN HIRE A
00:30:35LOBBYIST TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF
00:30:39OF OUR INTEREST TO WASHINGTON. AS A RESULT, WE FALL THROUGH THE
00:30:42CRACKS WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY,
00:30:43BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE THE
00:30:47FIRST MOVERS IN A LOT OF ISSUES THAT AFFECT AMERICA NOW.
00:30:50WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIRST TO BE DEEPFAKE WITH ARI.
00:30:56OUR CONTENT IS THE FIRST TO BE SCANNED AND USED.
00:30:58WE ARE GETTING DARKEST -- DO
00:31:07XED. DIGITAL PRIVACY FOR CHILDREN ONLINE.
00:31:11ALL OF THESE ARE ISSUES CREATORS ARE EXPERIENCING FIRST ON BEHALF
00:31:15OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. THAT IS WHY THESE MOMENTS ARE
00:31:18IMPORTANT AND EXCITING FOR ME AND THE WIDER CREATOR COMMUNITY
00:31:21BECAUSE WALLS THAT EXISTED ARE STARTING TO BREAK DOWN AND WE
00:31:26ARE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE CREATOR AND COMMUNITY NEEDS IN
00:31:29THE PLACE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST.
00:31:33>> YOU HAVE BUILT A VERY DIFFERENT BUSINESS, JACKIE, FROM
00:31:36OTHER FOLKS ON THE PANEL. YOU WERE A PIONEER IN THE BEAUTY
00:31:40SPACE ON YOUTUBE AND BECAME AN ADVOCATE AND NOW YOU ARE A
00:31:43FOUNDER OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY --
00:31:46COMPANY, IN ADDITION. I AM CURIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR
00:31:50TRANSITION STARTING YOUR OWN FRAGRANCE LINE AND WHAT YOU
00:31:53THINK MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT CREATORS TO
00:31:55TAKE ON MORE OF A PORTFOLIO
00:31:58CAREER WHERE YOU ARE A CREATOR AND ADVOCATE AND RUNNING YOUR OWN COMPANY AS WELL.
00:32:04>> WELL, THE FIRST TRANSITION IS LEARNING HOW TO BE AN
00:32:07INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR CREATOR,
00:32:08A TRANSITION IN ITSELF, AND A
00:32:12LEARNING CURVE IN ITSELF BECAUSE I STARTED MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS
00:32:16NO PLAYBOOK FOR ANY OF THIS AND I HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE TAX THING.
00:32:21MUCH LIKE THE ISSUES YOU
00:32:23MENTIONED OF
00:32:27INTELLECTUAL-PROPERTY THIEVERY, ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT
00:32:30COMING -- COME FROM HAVING A DIGITAL PRESENCE ONLINE.
00:32:36YOU LEARN HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
00:32:39IN ADDITION, YOU START A BUSINESS.
00:32:40I HAVE ONE PARENT THAT WAS AN
00:32:44ENTREPRENEUR, BUT I DID NOT LEARN MUCH.
00:32:46I HAD TO TAKE ON MOST OF THE LEARNING.
00:32:51WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO HIRE EMPLOYEES?
00:32:54I COULD NOT HAVE EVEN DONE THIS
00:32:57WITHOUT MY COFOUNDER HUSSMAN -- HUSBAND, DENNIS.
00:33:01IF NOT FOR HIS FINANCE BACKGROUND AND SKILL SET IN
00:33:05ACTUALLY PUTTING A TANGIBLE PLAN IN PLACE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO
00:33:07IT, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO.
00:33:11I AM FULL CAREER MODE.
00:33:15I WAS LIKE, I WANT TO SHOW UP AND MAKE THINGS PRETTY.
00:33:19HE SHOWED ME HOW TO HIRE AND FIRE.
00:33:22HOW TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE BEING DONE EFFICIENCY.
00:33:26AND WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO
00:33:27MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IS, LIKE
00:33:30MANY OF US HAVE ECHOED, DON'T COUNT US OUT.
00:33:33A LOT OF TIMES, WE REALLY ARE
00:33:36THE FIRST TO EXPERIENCE ALL OF THE SOCIETAL CHANGES AND WAVES IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
00:33:42AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS IS
00:33:47STARTING TO BECOME A LEGITIMIZED INDUSTRY.
00:33:49BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S BEEN LIKE TWO DECADES.
00:33:53I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING ANYWHERE. A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE
00:33:56GENERATING A LOT OF INCOME. HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SO IT IS NOT
00:34:00PAINSTAKINGLY DIFFICULT TO DO THINGS LIKE BUY A HOUSE OR GET A LOAN FOR A BUSINESS.
00:34:05THESE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK MYSELF AND MY COFOUNDER'S ARE THE MOST INVESTED IN.
00:34:10HOW TO CONTINUE TO RUN THE SHIP WITH MORE OUTSIDE SUPPORT WHILE
00:34:13WE STILL FIGURE OUT AND NAVIGATE FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO IT ON A
00:34:17PUBLIC PLATFORM AT THE SAME TIME.
00:34:20>> BETWEEN YOU AND SAGE, I FEEL
00:34:21LIKE THE TRICK WE ARE LEARNING
00:34:25IF YOU NEED A HUSBAND THAT WILL RUN THE BUSINESS SIDE FOR YOU.
00:34:27>> SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAID WAS SO TRUE.
00:34:32EVEN THOUGH I STARTED AS A
00:34:34CREATOR, TECHNICALLY, MICAH -- BACKGROUND BEFORE THAT WAS LIKE
00:34:38PROFESSIONAL MAKEUP ARTISTRY.
00:34:41I WAS USED TO MY WORK BEING SEEN. NOT TO BE -- NOT ME BEING SEEN.
00:34:47AND ON TOP OF THAT, HAVING AN
00:34:51IMMIGRANT PARENT, CULTURALLY, A LOT OF WOMEN AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE OUTSPOKEN.
00:34:56AND ALSO, HAVING DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE AT THE TIME.
00:35:01I'M NOT SAYING I RECOMMEND IT.
00:35:04BUT MOST OF WHAT I WAS USED TO WAS BEING BEHIND-THE-SCENES.
00:35:10YOUTUBE I WAS LIKE, THIS IS CUTE AND FUN. MAYBE PEOPLE WILL LIKE HOW I DO MAKEUP.
00:35:16BUT IT COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED MY LIFE. AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR IT.
00:35:21IT WAS SO MUCH. I HAD TO DO A LOT OF UNLEARNING.
00:35:26YOU WONDER WHAT IF, SOMETIMES, GUYS AND GALS.
00:35:30WHAT IF YOU HAD LISTENED TO THE INNER VOICE. THERE IS FEAR.
00:35:34WHAT IF YOU HAD NOT TRIED IT.
00:35:37AND YOU ALL HAVE TEAMS NOW SO YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE.
00:35:40AND I HAVE BEEN BLOWN AWAY BY
00:35:44HOW OPEN AND FRIENDLY TO CREATIVE WORLD IS PRODUCTION ON THE ROAD I CAME FROM.
00:35:49THERE ARE STILL SCARS BACK HERE. THAT'S OK. THE JOURNEY IS THE JOURNEY.
00:35:54BUT WHEN YOU ASK QUESTIONS OF OTHER CREATORS, PEOPLE ARE SO WILLING TO HELP.
00:35:58HAVE I GOT LUCKY, OR IS THIS
00:36:03NORMAL? >> I THINK IT IS NORMAL.
00:36:05>> IT IS UNDERESTIMATED, THE APPRECIATION. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL OF US.
00:36:10WE ARE DOING IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S RARE.
00:36:14>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CREATORS IMPACT ON DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES,
00:36:16I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT
00:36:20MENTION YOU BECAME AN OUTSPOKEN
00:36:22VOICE IN THE BEAUTY SPACE ON DIVERSITY.
00:36:27TALK ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL YOU HAVE
00:36:29USED YOUR PERSONAL PLATFORM TO
00:36:32SHAPE THE INDUSTRY YOU WERE JUST WORKING IN AS A MAKEUP ARTIST AT THE STOP OF -- START OF THIS.
00:36:38>> WHAT INITIALLY STARTED WITH
00:36:41THE MOST OBVIOUS RESPONSE WAS I GO TO A MAKEUP COUNTER AND I
00:36:45DON'T SEE PRODUCTS FOR PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME.
00:36:48AS I STARTED TO CREATE CONTENT
00:36:49AND HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS EVEN
00:36:53WITH PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE COMPANIES.
00:36:55I WOULD GET DM'S FROM PEOPLE THAT WORKED AT MAJOR
00:36:58CONGLOMERATES LIKE, I'M THE ONLY
00:37:03BLACK PERSON THAT WORKS AT THIS COMPANY AND I HAVE BEEN SAYING
00:37:06ALL THIS STUFF AND NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO ME.
00:37:09I STARTED REALIZING THAT I WAS
00:37:13BECOMING INVESTED IN THE BIGGEST
00:37:16-- BIGGER SYSTEMIC ISSUES AROUND
00:37:22THE SEAMS. ARE YOU NOT ACTIVELY LOOKING TO
00:37:25HIRE DIVERSE PEOPLE BEHIND-THE-SCENES?
00:37:28WHY ISN'T THAT YOU CAN PUT
00:37:32MILLIONS OF AD DOLLARS BEHIND A SUPER BOWL COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU
00:37:35DO NOT KNOW THAT BLACK WOMEN ALSO BY COSMETICS AND HAIR
00:37:39PRODUCTS?
00:37:41ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HAIR, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS ALL
00:37:45THIS DATA THAT SHOWS BLACK WOMEN OVER INDEX IN CERTAIN THINGS,
00:37:50LIKE BUYING COMPLEXION PRODUCTS, MEANING WE TYPICALLY BUY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE OF THEM.
00:37:54IT'S LIKE, WHY DO WE THINK?
00:37:58IF THE FIRST PRODUCT IS A FLOP, I HAVE TO REPLACE IT.
00:38:04IT IS EVEN MORE TRIAL AND ERROR.
00:38:08I BECAME INVESTED IN NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OBVIOUS, LIKE MAKE MORE SHADES.
00:38:15MAYBE YOU SHOULD START DIVERSIFYING HOW YOU HIRE PEOPLE.
00:38:19THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME BIGGER THAN JUST THE MAKEUP PART.
00:38:23EVEN THOUGH THAT IS STILL IMPORTANT, IT SPOKE TO A BIGGER ISSUE.
00:38:29STIMULATE THE ECONOMY, HIRE MORE
00:38:31PEOPLE OR MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE. BERKELEY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS TOO?
00:38:36I STARTED TO LEAN INTO THAT AS WELL.
00:38:40IT OPENED AS A DOOR TO A BIGGER ISSUE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WERE
00:38:45MORE IMPACTED BY. THE CONVERSATION GOT TO MOVE
00:38:49MORE LEGS WITH THAT END OF IT.
00:38:54>> YOU HAVE SUCH DIFFERENT PATHS INTO THE CREATOR SPACE.
00:39:00NOW THAT WE ALL HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF HOW YOU PUT YOUR PLATFORM AND WHAT YOUR CAREER
00:39:03LOOKS LIKE TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES.
00:39:07I AM CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU.
00:39:12WHAT IS ONE HURDLE YOU FEEL HAS BEEN UNIQUE TO BUILDING AS A
00:39:16CREATOR THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
00:39:20HERE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF?
00:39:23AT THE END, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO GO FIRST.
00:39:28>> I WOULD IMMEDIATELY THINK OF SOMETHING MATT MENTIONED. 20 YEARS OF YOUTUBE.
00:39:35JUST NOW, REALLY BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS WITH THE TRADITIONAL
00:39:39MAINSTREAM MEDIA INDUSTRY, HOLLYWOOD SPECIFICALLY.
00:39:43AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SPIRIT
00:39:47WE HAVE BEEN PURSUING THIS A LONG TIME.
00:39:50I THINK THAT THE TRUCK -- THE CHALLENGE OF, NOT ONLY PROVING
00:39:54OURSELVES ON YOUTUBE, BUT
00:39:55GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER, IN
00:39:58TERMS OF BUSINESS, CREATING THE CONTENT, CREATING THE AUDIENCE,
00:40:02BUILDING IT ALL, IT HAS LET US
00:40:05TO A POINT WHERE WE AREN'T REALLY FINDING IT TIME TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE MOMENT WITH HOLLYWOOD.
00:40:12AND THE OTHER MAINSTREAM MARKETPLACES.
00:40:17WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FRICTION WE HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED ALONG
00:40:20THE JOURNEY, IT UNITES US AS CREATORS.
00:40:24I AGREE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST OPTIMISTIC AND POSITIVE
00:40:28GROUPS YOU WILL EVER COME ACROSS IN BUSINESS.
00:40:31A YOUTUBE CREATOR, ALMOST BY DEFINITION IS A BOOTSTRAP
00:40:35BUSINESS, STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
00:40:38YOU TAKE A LOT OF LICKS ALONG THE JOURNEY TO GET TO WHERE ALL OF US HAVE GONE TO.
00:40:42THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL ADVOCATES, NOT JUST FOR EACH
00:40:44OTHER, BUT THE NEW CREATORS
00:40:46COMING UP AROUND US BECAUSE THE
00:40:52MORE WE CAN UNITE AND IMPROVE NOT ONLY WE ARE LEGITIMATE, BUT OUR AUDIENCES ARE RALLYING
00:40:56AROUND US, WE WILL BE ABLE TO BREAK THROUGH THAT FRICTION.
00:41:01>> FRICTION WITH HOLLYWOOD, BOY. >> WHERE DO WE BEGIN?
00:41:09WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING CONTENT,
00:41:15DISTRIBUTION IS ONE OF THE KEYS TO THE BUSINESS MODELS.
00:41:21LIKE, HOW DO WE NOT ONLY REACH
00:41:23AUDIENCES, BUT MAXIMIZE THAT
00:41:28OPPORTUNITY. FOR A LONG TIME IT HAS BEEN A CLOSELY GUARDED INDUSTRY. WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY WE
00:41:33STARTED A YOUTUBE CHANNEL FROM A RURAL OHIO IS BECAUSE WE CANNOT
00:41:36GET PAST THE GATES, THE BARRIER. IF IT WERE NOT FOR PROFIT --
00:41:40PLATFORMS LIKE YOUTUBE I WOULD NOT BE SITTING HERE SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY.
00:41:45FOR US, THE FRICTION HAS BEEN
00:41:49REALLY TWO SIDES COMING TOGETHER SLOWLY OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD.
00:41:53NOW, THERE IS A SYMBIOTIC SIDE TO IT.
00:41:55YOU ARE SEEING NOT ONLY
00:41:59ADVERTISERS MOVING TOWARDS US,
00:42:02IT RALLYING AROUND YOUTUBE CREATORS. YOU ARE SEEING THIS IN CINEMAS.
00:42:07YOU ARE SEEING THIS ON THE FILM SIDE OF THE BUSINESS.
00:42:13I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO SAY IT.
00:42:18THEY WANT TO UTILIZE OUR SKILL SETS, NOT ONLY OUR AUDIENCES,
00:42:22BUT HOW WE DO THINGS. WE DO THINGS REALLY EFFICIENTLY.
00:42:29FOR FIVE DOLLARS AND A STICK OF BUBBLEGUM, A YOUTUBE CONTENT
00:42:33CREATOR CAN MAKE SOMETHING REALLY COOL.
00:42:35THAT IS NOT HOW THEY HAVE DONE THINGS IN HOLLYWOOD, BUT THEY
00:42:38ARE WAKING UP TO THAT NOW. >> MATT, WHAT IS ONE HURDLE YOU HAVE FACED?
00:42:44FIRST AND FOREMOST -- FOREMOST, TAXES. BUT I ALWAYS SAY TAXES.
00:42:51BASICALLY, CREATORS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY FILE THEIR TAXES.
00:42:55BUT WE FALL BETWEEN SO MANY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT A LOT
00:42:58OF TIME CPAS AND ACCOUNTANTS
00:43:03DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY ADVISE YOUNG CREATORS
00:43:06ON HOW TO PROPERLY FILE TAXES.
00:43:10WHO IS YOUR AUDIENCE?
00:43:10WHAT IS YOUR PRODUCT -- PRODUCT?
00:43:14DO YOU SELL MURCH? YOU ARE GETTING PAID FROM GOOGLE, A DELAWARE COMPANY.
00:43:19BUT YOU ARE SELLING MURCH NATIONWIDE.
00:43:22DO YOU PAY STATE TAXES ON ALL -- AT ALL THOSE PLACES?
00:43:26ARE YOU QUALIFIED AS AN EDUCATOR OR VIDEOGRAPHER?
00:43:30THERE ARE SO MANY NUANCES ABOUT HOW CREATORS AND CREATOR LED
00:43:34BUSINESSES HAVE TO FILE THEIR TAXES. WE ARE IN A GRAY AREA.
00:43:38EVEN WHEN WE GO TO PROFESSIONALS ASKING, HOW DO I DO THIS?
00:43:42A LOT OF TIMES THE INDUSTRY IS SO NEBULOUS, WE ARE NOT GETTING
00:43:45DEFINITIVE ANSWERS BACK AND IT PUTS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN UNCERTAIN TERRITORY.
00:43:49THE THING I WOULD SAY THIS TIME TO MIX IT UP IS, ACTUALLY,
00:43:53PROTECTION OVER OUR IDENTITIES. AT THIS POINT, LIKE I MENTIONED
00:43:57BEFORE, BECAUSE WE PUT SO MUCH OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO
00:44:01ONLINE, A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF BEING
00:44:04DEEPFAKE OR OUR CONTENT BEING AI
00:44:07SCAMMED IN A LOT OF PLACES. EARLIER THIS MONTH MY VOICE WAS
00:44:10REPLICATED TO PROMOTE A RANDOM
00:44:15GAME PRODUCT I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
00:44:19RIGHT NOW THERE DOES NOT EXIST A
00:44:22CLEAN WAY FOR ME TO SAY, TAKE THAT DOWN. THAT'S NOT ME.
00:44:28MY AUDIENCE FOLLOWS UP AND SAYS, IS THIS YOU? I'M CONFUSED.
00:44:34RIGHT NOW THE WAY MOST LAWS ARE WRITTEN IS YOU HAVE TO PROVE
00:44:37SOME LEVEL OF FINANCIAL BURDEN
00:44:40OR FINANCIAL LOSSES TO YOU AS A PERSON. IT IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO
00:44:44PROVE WHAT DOES NOT EXIST THERE.
00:44:48THERE IS AUDIENCE DISTRESSED AND HESITATION. PEOPLE MAY HAVE FELT LIKE I MISLED THEM.
00:44:53IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY. THAT IS ONE OF THE WEIRD GAPS
00:44:56CREATORS FALL INTO WHERE IT SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
00:44:59PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEIR IDENTITY ONLINE.
00:45:03RIGHT NOW, THE SYSTEMS ARE NOT BUILT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THAT
00:45:07TO HAPPEN. >> TO YOUR TAXATION POINT, IT'S
00:45:10NOT JUST CREATORS ON A HUGE SCALE FACING THAT.
00:45:17IT IS MICRO INFLUENCERS GETTING PR IN THE MAIL NOT REALIZING
00:45:20THAT BY GETTING THAT FREE BOX OF
00:45:23MAKEUP PRODUCTS, THEY NEED TO PAY TAXES ON THAT AS WELL.
00:45:28>> YES. AND THE OTHER SIDE IS WHEN YOU
00:45:29THINK OF A CREATOR, YOU THINK
00:45:32ABOUT THE TOP PEOPLE MAKING A LOT OF AD REVENUE, SEVEN
00:45:34CHOCOLATE BARS IN TARGET OR
00:45:38WALMART, RIGHT?
00:45:38BUT BEING A CREATOR IS EVERYONE,
00:45:43AT THIS POINT. IT IS THE MOM AND SHOP --
00:45:46MOM-AND-POP SHOP CREATING
00:45:49CONTENT ON FACEBOOK TO PROMOTE THEIR NEW BOOKSTORE.
00:45:55WE ARE ALL CREATORS INTO A GREATER OR LESSER DEGREE.
00:45:59YES, PEOPLE LIKE US, A LOT OF
00:46:01TIMES, THAT HAVE A PLATFORM AND A MEGAPHONE AREN'T LEADING TO CONVERSATIONS.
00:46:06AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE SPEAKING ON
00:46:08BEHALF OF IS AN ECONOMY THAT
00:46:11REPRESENTS ALL SIZES AND SKILLS ACROSS AMERICA.
00:46:14>> BEFORE I GET TO YOU, SHOW OF
00:46:18HANDS, WHO ELSE HAS HAD A HIGH IMITATE THEIR CONTENT OR SOMEBODY TAKE IT AND TRY TO PASS
00:46:22IT OFF? ALMOST EVERYONE.
00:46:26SAGE, I'M CURIOUS. >> WHEN I GET TO YOUR NUMBER OF
00:46:30SUBSCRIBERS, I WILL BE IN LINE. THAT'S THE GOAL.
00:46:39>> I ACTUALLY IGNORE A LOT OF THINGS.
00:46:42I NEED TO GO DEEPER INTO THE COMMENT SOMETIMES, BUT THEN YOU GET SUCKED IN.
00:46:48FOR ME, THERE IS PRESSURE, RIGHT?
00:46:51HOW WILL YOU GET OUT THERE? HOW WILL YOU GO VIRAL?
00:46:55I PROBABLY SHOULD LEAN INTO THAT MORE.
00:46:57SOMETIMES, YES, WITH THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS I ASKED, ETC..
00:47:02BUT THE PRIORITY FOR ME HAS BEEN MAINTAINING AUTHENTICITY.
00:47:05I THINK THAT WE UNDERESTIMATE
00:47:09HOW MUCH OUR AUDIENCE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH US.
00:47:12AND CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN WE ARE
00:47:13OUT THERE BEING REALLY GENUINE
00:47:16AND CURIOUS, OR WHATEVER IT IS
00:47:19IT THAT DRIVES OUR CONTENT, OR
00:47:21JUST TRYING TO GET SOME
00:47:25SOMETHING DONE QUICKLY, FOR THE DOLLARS. I MIGHT BE GROWING SLOWER
00:47:29BECAUSE OF THAT.
00:47:32FOR ME, IT'S A MARATHON, NOT A SPRINT.
00:47:37BUT I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND GIVES SMALLER CREATORS A CHANCE.
00:47:41AT SOME POINT, PEOPLE DID THAT FOR US, RIGHT?
00:47:45THERE IS REAL, GENUINE DESIRE TO CONNECT WITH YOUR AUDIENCE IS
00:47:49THE RIGHT WAY.
00:47:53IN ORDER TO GROW YOUR CHANNEL AND OTHERS OUT THERE.
00:47:58SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE DOING THAT FOR CLICKS, TO BUILD
00:48:02THE AUDIENCE.
00:48:02YES, AND PEERED YOU ARE 8 --
00:48:06AND. YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF THAT AND HOW THIS IS A FAMILY BUSINESS AND YOU ARE
00:48:10IT THE RIGHT WAY.
00:48:13DID THE THUMBNAILS HELP? I DID NOT KNOW WHAT A THUMBNAIL
00:48:16WAS AND THAT THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. REMEMBERING ALL THAT, THE
00:48:20BUSINESS SIDE, WHILE REMAINING TRUE. YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO
00:48:24GIVE SMALLER CREATORS THE OPPORTUNITY.
00:48:26>> WHAT IS ONE UNSEEN HURDLE YOU WANT LAWMAKERS AWARE OF?
00:48:31>> MAYBE NOT UNSEEN, BUT NOT
00:48:33TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH, I
00:48:36CONSTANTLY THINK ABOUT THE
00:48:39PRIVACY AND SAFETY.
00:48:42FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, I
00:48:46WORRY ABOUT THE WAY NEWS SPREADS
00:48:48ON PLATFORMS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IMPACTS INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.
00:48:54I WORRY ABOUT HOW THINGS LIKE SKIP SLANDER CAN TAKE OFF AND PERSONALLY IMPACT SOMEONE.
00:49:06MORE CAN BE DONE TO STOP OR MITIGATE THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT EVEN CREATORS.
00:49:12YOU COULD BE AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME AND SOMEBODY
00:49:15FILMS YOU AND POSTED IT ON A PLATFORM IN THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SPIRALS AND IT
00:49:19CHANGES YOUR LIFE FOR THE WORSE AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
00:49:24JUST THE CONCEPT OF BEING ABLE TO FILM SOMEONE'S CHILDREN IN A PUBLIC SPACE AND POSTED.
00:49:29THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PARAMETERS AROUND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT
00:49:33CONSTANTLY. PRIVACY, ESPECIALLY AS SOMEBODY
00:49:38THAT LIVES IN CALIFORNIA, BUYING A HOME IN THE STATE OF
00:49:41CALIFORNIA IF YOU ARE A PUBLIC FIGURE, GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK MAINTAINING PRIVACY.
00:49:48IF YOU ARE RELATIVELY NOTE -- NEW TO DOING THIS AS A JOB WHO
00:49:52WILL TELL YOU, DON'T PUT YOUR
00:49:54HOUSE IN YOUR NAME, PUT IT IN A
00:49:57TRUST SO THEY CAN FIND YOUR ADDRESS.
00:49:59YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO NORMAL THINGS LIKE BUY A HOUSE, BUY A
00:50:03CAR AND NOT WORRY ABOUT HAVING
00:50:06YOUR HOUSE ON REDDIT OR A RANDOM
00:50:09WEBSITE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE SENDING THINGS TO YOUR
00:50:14HOME BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE WAY
00:50:18YOU DO YOUR BROWSE? I THINK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GO
00:50:22TO THE DOCTOR WITHOUT SOMEONE GOING ONLINE AND SAYING THEY SAW YOU.
00:50:26THAT'S A COMPLETE BREACH OF
00:50:30SOMEBODY'S PRIVACY AND SAFETY.
00:50:34TO THE VIEWER, YOU ARE NOT A REGULAR PERSON, BUT ALSO NOT REALLY A CELEBRITY.
00:50:40THERE IS LIKE A MISSING SAFETY OR PRIVACY TRIP.
00:50:46SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T THINK THIS PERSON IS ENTITLED TO SAFETY OR PRIVACY.
00:50:52I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS PUT IN TO PLACE TO MAKE THESE THINGS LAST COMMENT.
00:50:56THEY ARE SO COMMON. SO MANY TIMES I AM SCROLLING ON
00:51:00A PLATFORM AND I RANDOMLY SEE SOMEBODY'S ZILLOW LISTING OF THE
00:51:03HOUSE THEY BOUGHT TWO HOURS AGO AND I'M LIKE, WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU FIND US?
00:51:09AND WHY IS THE ENTIRE ADDRESS THERE, NO RAMIFICATIONS?
00:51:15I DON'T HAVE KIDS, BUT I THINK ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT.
00:51:18HOW DO WE PUT MORE SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE SO THEY ARE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF?
00:51:24THEY ARE TECHNICALLY NOT CHILD ACTORS. THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN DECADES
00:51:28OF LOBBYING AND RULEMAKING FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT NOT FOR
00:51:32FAMILY BLOGGERS.
00:51:34HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE CHILDREN ARE NOT EXPLOITED ONLINE?
00:51:38SO MANY THINGS LIKE THAT ARE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR ME.
00:51:41DEFINITELY PRIVACY, SAFETY, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY NOT BEING VIOLATED.
00:51:45I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE HAD SOMEBODY LITERALLY
00:51:49CREATE AN ENTIRE FAKE PROFILE OF ME.
00:51:52THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW ME AND SAY,
00:51:56HEY, YOU HAVE WON $500. CLICK THE LINK TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE.
00:52:00SOMEBODY WILL LITERALLY THINK IT IS LEGIT. I'M LIKE WOW, YOU ARE REALLY
00:52:04SCAMMING PEOPLE. NOW THEY ARE DOING IT TO MY HUSBAND BECAUSE HE IS SOMEWHAT
00:52:07IN THE PUBLIC EYE AS A COFOUNDER AND HAS STARTED CREATING CONTENT.
00:52:11NOW THEY ARE IMPERSONATING HIM.
00:52:14IT IS LIKE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY VIOLATION, SAFETY, PRIVACY, ALL
00:52:18THESE REOCCURRING PROBLEMS.
00:52:20BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE THINK TO CREED -- CONNECT THEM TO
00:52:24CREATORS BECAUSE WE ARE PUBLIC FIGURES IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND
00:52:27PERSONALLY, I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, WHEN YOU PUT YOURSELF
00:52:30OUT THERE ONLINE, THAT'S WHAT YOU DEAL WITH.
00:52:33BUT IF IT STARTS TO AFFECT REAL PEOPLE, AND IT IS PUTTING
00:52:36PEOPLE'S SAFETY IN JEOPARDY, PEOPLE'S SAFETY IN JEOPARDY, IT
00:52:39SHOULD BE TAKEN A LOT MORE SERIOUSLY.
00:52:43>> A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU LISTED ARE THINGS I HAVE HAD
00:52:46MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SHARE WITH ME ABOUT CONCERNS THEY ARE
00:52:50HAVING, IF THEY ARE HAVING A
00:52:52DEEPFAKE MADE OF THEM, OR IF THERE ARE RISING ATTACKS AGAINST
00:52:56LAWMAKERS, HAVING SOMEONE SHOW UP AND FILM THEM OUTSIDE THEIR
00:53:00HOUSE. THESE ARE PUBLIC FIGURES OF A DIFFERENT TYPE THAT HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.
00:53:05TO OUR POINT ABOUT SMALLER CREATORS, NOT EVERYBODY HAS A
00:53:09BUSINESS OR A PR PERSON ON THEIR TEAM THEY CAN TURN TO FOR HELP IN THOSE MOMENTS.
00:53:14WE HAVE SEEN, CONSTANTLY, SMALL CREATORS FACE THAT TYPE OF THING
00:53:17WHERE THERE PUBLIC INFORMATION IS EXPOSED.
00:53:22>> THAT IS WHAT IS WORRYING FOR ME.
00:53:26YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A
00:53:27MAINSTREAM CREATOR TO EXPERIENCE
00:53:31THESE THINGS. THIS HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WITH 20,000 FOLLOWERS.
00:53:36STILL A GREAT THING TO BUILD. BUT IT IS GETTING WE ARE NOW.
00:53:41>> IT IS REALLY EVERYONE.
00:53:46TALK TO ME ABOUT ONE CHALLENGE YOU THINK IS UNIQUE TO YOUR
00:53:49CREATOR JOURNEY THAT YOU WANT MEMBERS TO BE AWARE OF?
00:53:55>> OURS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT
00:53:58BECAUSE THE BUSINESS WAS ESTABLISHED FIRST AND IT COULD BE A FUN OUTLET FOR US TO SHARE
00:54:02THE CULTURE OF LOUISIANA, WHICH WE LOVE TO DO, ACROSS THE WORLD.
00:54:06I AGREE, THE PROTECTION OF YOUR
00:54:10CONTENT IS VERY HARD.
00:54:13WE HAVE TONS OF ACCOUNTS ON ANY
00:54:15PLATFORM YOU PUT UP THAT USE OUR COPYRIGHTED LOGO, TRADEMARK
00:54:20LOGO, ALL THOSE THINGS TOO.
00:54:22IT'S A FRUSTRATING PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING
00:54:26A FARM AND A BUSINESS TO MAKE
00:54:27THE CONTENT, SO THEN TO HAVE
00:54:31SOMEBODY COPY IT AND LIKELY MONETIZE ALL OF IT, THE PROCESS
00:54:34TO HAVE THOSE THINGS REPORTED
00:54:36AND TAKEN DOWN IS LENGTHY, AND A LOT OF TIMES, UNSUCCESSFUL.
00:54:41IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE MORE THINGS IN PLACE THERE.
00:54:53EN: I HAVE TWO THINGS. I WILL DO TWO REALLY QUICK. I WON'T TAKE MUCH TIME.
00:54:59THE FIRST ISSUE WE HAVE RUN
00:55:00INTO, AND CONTINUE TO, IS
00:55:04GATEKEEPERS OF THE INDUSTRY IN
00:55:08DIFFERENT PLATFORMS YOU DISTRIBUTE CONTENT OFF OF DICTATING YOUR VALUE AS A CREATOR.
00:55:13I FEEL LIKE WE ARE AT A PLACE NOW WHERE YOU GO BACK TO THE
00:55:17CONTROL ISSUE.
00:55:20HAVING CONTROL OF WHERE YOU DISTRIBUTE AND RELEASE YOUR CONTENT DETERMINES THE KIND OF PAYOUT YOU RECEIVE.
00:55:25THE MONETIZATION OF YOUR CONTENT IS A BIG DEAL.
00:55:31NOT BEING PUSHED INTO A CORNER
00:55:33AND TOLD WHAT YOUR VALUE IS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK A LOT OF
00:55:38CREATORS, PROBABLY ON THIS PANEL, HAVE EXPERIENCED.
00:55:42ANOTHER CREATORS OF ALL SCALE,
00:55:44SMALL AND BIG, HAVE EXPERIENCED.
00:55:49MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK WE ARE
00:55:53IN THE MIDDLE OF A REVOLUTION.
00:55:55THE CONTENT, CULTURE, AND
00:56:00INFLUENCE MANUFACTURING IS THE PRODUCT WE MAKE HERE IN THE
00:56:04U.S.. WE MAY CONTENT. WE MAKE CULTURE.
00:56:08THEN WE EXPORT THE INFLUENCE. THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR
00:56:11POLICYMAKERS IS, WHY IS IT THAT
00:56:15NO ONE ON THE CREATOR SIDE HAS A REAL SEAT AT THE TABLE?
00:56:19ONCE YOU PUT A CREATOR AT THE
00:56:22TABLE, THEN POLICIES FIT AROUND A CREATOR'S NEEDS.
00:56:26US BEING HERE IS CELEBRATORY.
00:56:30BUT, WHEN WE ARE OPERATING AT
00:56:32SCALE AND WE INFLUENCE THE WORLD, CONGRESS, PRODUCTS BEING
00:56:36SOLD, I THINK THAT CREATORS,
00:56:40LIKE US AND THE ONES BEING
00:56:42ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ARE NOT HERE NEEDED THE PROTECTION AND
00:56:46POLICIES IN PLACE, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS IF CREATORS
00:56:49HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
00:56:52THESE ARE THINGS THAT NEED ADDRESSING BY POLICYMAKERS.
00:56:56UNTIL WE ARE INCLUDED, I DON'T
00:56:58SEE HOW WE ACCOMPLISH POLICIES
00:57:01ACTUALLY THERE TO HELP US AND HELP THE GENERATIONS THAT COME
00:57:04BEHIND US PRACTICE GOOD BUSINESS.
00:57:08>> TO THAT POINT, CONGRESS IS NOT EXACTLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE CREATIVE SPACE.
00:57:13WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATORS FOR TWO DECADES.
00:57:17JUST LAUNCHING THE SENATE CAUCUS HERE TODAY.
00:57:20NOW, WITH AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS, A DAY LIKE TODAY WHEN YOU
00:57:23HAVE THAT SEAT AT THE TABLE,
00:57:27KNOWING CONGRESS DOES NOT ACT
00:57:29QUICKLY, NECESSARILY, NO OFFENSE TO THE SENATORS STILL IN THE
00:57:32ROOM, WHAT IS ONE PRIORITY THAT
00:57:37IF YOU WERE TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE
00:57:39CAUCUS HERE TODAY YOU WOULD LIKE
00:57:43THE SENATE, HOUSE, OR BOTH TO
00:57:44TAKE ACTION ON THAT YOU THINK
00:57:48WOULD HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON YOUR WORK?
00:57:51>> OK, I AM THE PARTNER AND CEO OF THE NETWORK.
00:57:56I REPRESENT A PROMINENT BLACK CREATOR.
00:57:59I THINK WE NEED PROTECTIONS FOR
00:58:03ALL CREATORS AND FOR THE
00:58:07UNDERSERVED AND UNDERPRIVILEGED. WE FACE CHALLENGES AT OUR
00:58:11NETWORK THAT I DO NOT THINK
00:58:12OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT FACE
00:58:15THE SAME HEADWINDS BECAUSE OF
00:58:18RACE AND OTHER ELEMENTS, THEY DON'T EXPERIENCE.
00:58:22AND THEY DON'T NEED TO COMBAT.
00:58:26I THINK WE NEED TO START PUTTING THE RIGHT POLICIES IN PLACE TO
00:58:29PROTECT CREATORS SO OUR IP, WHAT
00:58:33IT IS RELEASED, HOUSE
00:58:35PROTECTIONS SO WE DON'T USE A ONE SHOE FITS ALL POLICY FOR
00:58:39JOHN NEXT DOOR WHO IS LIVE
00:58:43STREAMING FROM HIS BASEMENT AND HAS FIVE PEOPLE WATCHING HIS LIFESTREAM VERSUS A CREATOR THAT
00:58:47MIGHT HAVE 20 MILLION PLUS SUBSCRIBERS.
00:58:51EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SITUATIONAL. WE NEED TO BE NIMBLE.
00:58:58LAWMAKERS UNDERSTAND -- NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT HOW WE MOVE
00:59:01NIMBLY AND CREATE INFLUENCE
00:59:04CANNOT BE A ONE-WAY DOOR.
00:59:07POLICYMAKERS CANNOT USE US AND OUR PLATFORMS WHEN THEY NEED US
00:59:12AND NOT DELIVER PROTECTIONS FOR US WHEN THEY DON'T NEED US.
00:59:15THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN AND CONTINUE TO
00:59:19GROW OUR BUSINESSES.
00:59:21>> AND WE HAVE SEEN CAMPAIGNS AND CANDIDATES INCREASINGLY
00:59:24TRYING TO WORK WITH CURATORS AND
00:59:28BE CREATORS THEMSELVES AS WELL, REALIZING THAT IS NOT WHAT IT TAKES TO BREAK THROUGH.
00:59:32MATT, I'M CURIOUS. YOU HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF SOME LOBBYING EFFORTS AT THE
00:59:36HELP -- ON THE HILL. THERE IS NOT EVEN A SURE DEFINITION OF WHAT A CREATOR IS NOW.
00:59:41ALL OF YOU HAVE INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND BUSINESSES.
00:59:45WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES OF THAT WHEN IT COMES TO NOW TRYING TO
00:59:49PUSH FOR POLICY AROUND THE CREATIVE SPACE?
00:59:56-- YEAR OR TWO YEARS LEARNING THIS WORLD, SO MUCH DEPENDS ON DEFINITIONS.
01:00:01BECAUSE IF YOU GET THE
01:00:02DEFINITIONS RIGHT, GREAT, THAT
01:00:06POLICY IS GOING TO HELP THE WHOLE INDUSTRY THRIVE AND YOU
01:00:09WILL NOT HAVE TO COME BACK AND RE-LEGISLATE IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
01:00:13BUT IF YOU GET THE DEFINITIONS
01:00:16WRONG, SUDDENLY CATASTROPHIC INFLUENCES CAN HAPPEN.
01:00:20I THINK RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING A CREATOR, THAT IS HARD.
01:00:25I AGREE THAT IS ONE OF THE
01:00:26BIGGEST PROBLEMS AND WHAT I
01:00:30WOULD HOPE THROUGH THESE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN CARVE OFF.
01:00:34A CREATOR IS EVERYONE FROM A PERSON DOING AN INSTAGRAM POST FROM THE BASEMENT OF THEIR
01:00:38FAVORITE FOOD ITEM WITH A LINK IN THE DESCRIPTION OF CLINK --
01:00:42CLICK ON MY AFFILIATE LINK, TO
01:00:45SOME CREATORS OPERATING AT A SCALE LARGER THAN A LOT OF MOVIE STUDIOS.
01:00:49IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE AN UMBRELLA POLICY THAT WORKS FOR
01:00:52ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TEARS.
01:00:56SO I THINK THAT IDEA OF WORKING
01:00:57TOGETHER HAND-IN-HAND WITH CREATORS OR THROUGH THE HOUSE
01:01:01CAUCUS, WE ARE ABLE TO START
01:01:05DEFINING THE SPACE BETTER SO THAT WAY WHEN LAWMAKERS ARE
01:01:08PRESENTED WITH QUESTIONS AROUND
01:01:09SHOULD WE BAN TIKTOK, WHAT ABOUT
01:01:13SOCIAL MEDIA FOR 16-YEAR-OLDS, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THESE
01:01:16CONVERSATIONS AND APPROACH THIS
01:01:19ECOSYSTEM WITH A SCALPEL RATHER THAN A SLEDGEHAMMER.
01:01:22TO HELP THESE SMALL BUSINESSES THRIVE RATHER THAN CUTTING OFF
01:01:26THOUSANDS AS THEY ARE GETTING THEIR START.
01:01:27>> I WANT TO DO A QUICK RAPID
01:01:31FIRE SINCE WE ARE AT TIME TO GIVE EVERYONE A LAST WORD.
01:01:34FILL IN THE BLANK AND WE WILL DO THESE QUICK SOUND BITE STYLE.
01:01:38CREATORS ARE? MARK
01:01:40>> WUH>>>> CREATORS ARE ENTREPRR
01:01:44WE'RE, WE'RE HERE WORKING
01:01:45EVERY SINGLE DAY TO DELIVEGHGHE
01:01:48S S ANNTUEUE
01:01:53O O
01:01:54ANOROR THE PEOATAT ARE COMING U
01:01:58S S TH
01:02:00THTHERA WHOLE GROUP OF
01:02:02TAKE THE WOR'S
01:02:08>> MATT? >> HE TOOK MY ANSWERS CREATORS OR BUSINESSES.
01:02:15YOU, WE ARE ALL CREATORS.
01:02:18>> PAGE? >> COURAGEOUS.
01:02:21I THINK IT DOES TAKE SOME COURAGE TO PUT YOURSELF OUT
01:02:24THERE, AND YOU PUSHED THROUGH THE COURAGE.
01:02:27AND ALSO THROUGH THE NEW FRONTIER. EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE THERE AT THE BEGINNING.
01:02:32TRULY THE NEW FRONTIER. AND WE JUST HAVE TO GO BACK TO
01:02:36EVERY ELECTION CYCLE. ESPECIALLY THE LAST ONE IN 2024.
01:02:40WHAT IS COMING UP IN 2026.
01:02:43ELECTIONS HAVE COMPLETELY TURNED
01:02:46BASED ON THE INTERNET, BASED ON STREAMERS, ON CREATORS.
01:02:49I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE THIS ISN'T GOING
01:02:53ANYWHERE, WE KNOW THAT. BUT LEVERAGE IT.
01:02:57LITERALLY THE FATE TO THE
01:02:59SUCCESS OF OUR COUNTRY, IT IS IN OUR HANDS.
01:03:02>> CREATORS ARE CULTURAL
01:03:08NARRATIVE SHAPERS. I'M SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE
01:03:11ISSUES THAT AS A BLACK CREATOR
01:03:13ON THE PLATFORM, THERE ARE SO
01:03:15MANY THINGS MY PEERS THAT EVEN STARTED WHEN I DID DO NOT SHARE
01:03:19THE SAME EXPERIENCE. AND VICE VERSA.
01:03:22THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEST TO OR RELATE TO.
01:03:26ONE THING I KNOW IS SOCIAL MEDIA
01:03:29HAS LITERALLY GIVEN ME A VOICE AND A CAMERA TO BE ABLE TO TALK
01:03:31ABOUT THINGS AND PUT A PART OF
01:03:35MY CULTURE ON THE MAP THAT THOSE
01:03:38OF US IN THE INDUSTRY WOULD HAVE STOLEN OR PRETENDED THEY DID IT
01:03:42FIRST, AND I'M GLAD THAT NOW THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ON
01:03:45THESE PLATFORMS THAT LOOK LIKE ME THAT CAN SAY THIS IS WHERE
01:03:48THIS TREND CAME FROM, THIS IS
01:03:51WHERE THIS COLLOQUIALISM COMES FROM, AND I LOVE THAT. I THINK IN SO MANY DIFFERENT
01:03:55WAYS, THAT IS WHAT BLACK CULTURE
01:03:58IS, BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE SEEING THOSE PEOPLE WHO SHAPED THOSE
01:04:02NARRATIVES THEMSELVES DOING IT IN REAL TIME.
01:04:08>> AVERY?
01:04:08>> ALSO FOR US, BUSINESS,
01:04:13MULTI-GENERAL FASHION -- MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILY BUSINESS, OUR WAY OF LIFE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD.
01:04:19>> WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS TO ME? >> YOU CHOSE TO SIT OVER HERE.
01:04:24>> CREATORS ARE THE FUTURE OF
01:04:28OUR ECONOMY.
01:04:32CREATORS ARE GOING TO DETERMINE IF THE ECONOMY SUCCEEDS OR FAILS.
01:04:37SO THAT MEANS THE POLICIES
01:04:38AROUND CREATORS ARE GOING TO
01:04:42DETERMINE IF THE ECONOMY SUCCEEDS OR FAILS.
01:04:47>> ON THAT NOTE, EVERYONE JOIN ME IN LEADING THIS AMAZING PANEL.
01:04:51[APPLAUSE]
01:05:01>> AFTER A LOOK AT THE NEWS AND
01:05:02VIEWER CALLS, WE WILL WELCOME
01:05:05NEIL CHILSON, FORMER FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION OR AND ACTING
01:05:09CHIEF TECHNOLOGIST FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO THE SHOW. HE WILL DISCUSS OVERSIGHT OF THE
01:05:12BURGEONING AI INDUSTRY. AND LATER, UNIVERSITY OF
01:05:16BALTIMORE SCHOOL OF LAW PROFESSOR KIMBERLY WHALEY WILL
01:05:20JOIN US TO TALK ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS AND THE UPCOMING MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
01:05:25OUR SHOW STARTS TOMORROW AND EVERY DAY AT 7:00 A.M. EASTERN
01:05:28ON C-SPAN, ONLINE AT C-SPAN.ORG,
01:05:32OR WITH A FREE C-SPAN NOW VIDEO APP.
01:05:38>> ON SUNDAY, NEBRASKA REPUBLICAN SENATOR PETE RICKETTS ATTENDS HIS ESTATES ANNUAL STEAK
01:05:42FRY TO FUND RAISE FOR HIS REELECTION CAMPAIGN.
01:05:45THIS YEAR'S EVENT FEATURES SPEAKERS, INCLUDING REPUBLICAN
01:05:49SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY FROM WEEPING WATER, NEBRASKA.
01:05:53WATCH AT 1:00 P.M. EASTERN ON
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