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00:00:00well, we're doing it as fast as we possibly can, and we're also trying
00:00:04to be open, which is why I'm standing here and communicating about where we are all the time, because I
00:00:08know that a lot of people are following this, and it affects a lot of lives
00:00:11out there, both for our children and for those who are supposed to be hired to take
00:00:15care of them. Among the trainee teacher Oliver
00:00:18the ability to follow what they B, there is understanding and impatience, so I can understand why they have
00:00:21stopped this children's test, if it doesn't work, but for us it can
00:00:24still be super frustrating.
00:00:27The Minister of Justice cannot give an interview, writes that he is aware of
00:00:31the problems, and that he will meet with the legal spokespersons later in the week to make
00:00:35a status.
00:01:51Good evening and welcome to TV-avis 18:30. It
00:01:54is a Russia that provokes and
00:01:57escalates, and we must not lie down. The
00:02:01political reactions are many, day after a Russian naval vessel shot
00:02:04signal flares directly at an unarmed Danish
00:02:07helicopter.
00:02:09Jeppe Mittiby, you are at a town hall meeting in Djursland. Tell me what it's
00:02:13about?
00:02:15About half a kilometer this way, there is a high moor that the locals dearly
00:02:18love, but the Pindstrup company wants to continue digging for peat there, and the locals want
00:02:22to stop that. Widows
00:02:26Bay.
00:02:29Inside. Japanese horror comedy won 14 awards at last night's
00:02:32Emmy awards. We will hear more about Widows Bay at the end of
00:02:36the broadcast.
00:02:43A Russian warship fired two signal flares at a Danish
00:02:46military helicopter. One was close to hitting the helicopter, which was
00:02:50unarmed. Its mission was to take pictures of the Russian
00:02:53vessel. Well, we take it very seriously. It is serious when a
00:02:57Danish military helicopter is fired upon in
00:03:00international waters, which is monitoring a Russian
00:03:03frigate. There is no precise description of where it
00:03:06happened, but the message from the defense is that the incident took place in international
00:03:10waters off Gæsser.
00:03:13The Defense is very reluctant to provide information about the incident with the
00:03:18me and has told parliament is Russian frigate, but several
00:03:20that the operation that was underway experts have no doubt that it could have gone very wrong.
00:03:22These, well, they shoot a couple of hundred meters up in the air, and then there's this fireball that
00:03:25falls towards the ground. All ships, both civilian and military, have signal
00:03:29flares on board, so they can call for help if needed. It's a small
00:03:33incendiary bomb you fire, so of course it's dangerous, which is why we
00:03:36don't just fire them for fun. We don't know what type of signal flare was
00:03:40fired from the Russian frigate. It was a helicopter
00:03:43of this type, called a Fenek, that was out to take pictures of the Russian
00:03:47ship. It's what you call a light helicopter, it's
00:03:50available in a civilian version, basically, it's a civilian helicopter with military
00:03:54markings on it. The probability of being hit by it is very low, but if you are hit, the probability
00:03:58of damage is high, and if it hits the engine, the engine can fail, and it
00:04:01explains itself what happens then. Now they have flown with the door open because they had to take pictures of a
00:04:05burning flare into the cabin or
00:04:08the cockpit, then it's really bad. In peacetime, there is normally a very
00:04:12fixed procedure for how to warn each other when encountering a
00:04:16between NATO countries and Russia, because then we are military vessel from the opposing side. Normally, if a
00:04:19military vessel wishes that others do not approach, they would call them on
00:04:23the radio and try to push them away in that way,
00:04:25um, and then you might also flash lights at them, there are several different modes of communication
00:04:30to get them away, and then um, so you escalate it,
00:04:34you could say, the closer it gets. We don't know if there were
00:04:38other warnings from the Russian ship before it fired at the helicopter.
00:04:41Russia's ambassador to Denmark, in a written response, blames the Danish
00:04:45helicopter, which he claims acted provocatively and flew
00:04:49too close. This video was shot two weeks
00:04:53ago by a private individual, Frank Olesen, on his way to Hirtshals, and shows
00:04:56the Russian ship Akademik Nikolai Strakov and a helicopter that
00:05:00looks like a Danish military Fenek helicopter. The Danish Defense will not
00:05:04confirm that this is what happened, but
00:05:07this is perhaps how it looks when Russian ships are inspected by
00:05:10Danish helicopters. Well, there's no doubt that there's more tension
00:05:14now, I mean, there's no doubt that we are more on edge with each other, and
00:05:18therefore such signals are also extremely dangerous. How are
00:05:22our activities perceived by
00:05:24the enemy, so to speak, and it may be that what we could do three,
00:05:28four, five years ago, we can't anymore, because we are actually a bit
00:05:32on edge with each other, both of us, and that's the
00:05:35dangerous thing, that such signals can be misunderstood, and suddenly
00:05:38it escalates. Since Russia launched
00:05:42its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, there have been a number of
00:05:46similar incidents. In October 2022, a Russian
00:05:49SU-27 fighter jet fired a missile close to a British
00:05:53unmanned surveillance aircraft in international airspace over
00:05:56the Black Sea. The Russian authorities subsequently attributed it to
00:06:00a technical fault. In December 2024, a Russian
00:06:03warship fired signal flares at a German military helicopter during a
00:06:07surveillance mission in the Baltic Sea, and earlier this year in June, the crew
00:06:11of the Russian Frigate Admiral Grigorovich
00:06:15fired warning shots at a British destroyer in the English Channel, according to
00:06:18the Russian authorities, something they did to avoid a collision.
00:06:22Welcome
00:06:24Jeppe Brus. The Russian ambassador says that the Danish
00:06:28helicopter acted provocatively. What do you say to that
00:06:31reaction?
00:06:34Well, what I see is that the defense tells
00:06:39ongoing yesterday completely resembles what has been done
00:06:43many times before. That is, they monitor a Russian frigate in
00:06:46international waters, they behave in the same way as they have
00:06:49done so far. What was abnormal yesterday was that the Russians fired
00:06:53these flares, that is, signal flares at the Danish
00:06:56helicopter. Russia's ambassador also says that the Danish
00:07:00side shows no interest in preventing the situation at sea
00:07:03from escalating, I'm paraphrasing here, and that the Danes have refused to
00:07:07implement confidence-building measures, as it is called. What do you say
00:07:10to that criticism?
00:07:13Well, it's very strange that when the incident happens yesterday, and if there's a
00:07:17problem, they don't contact the Danish helicopter from the Russian frigate. There are actually
00:07:21many opportunities to do so, via radio and other means, but they don't do it, so without warning,
00:07:24they fire these signal flares very close to the Danish
00:07:27helicopter, and it could have gone completely wrong, and therefore
00:07:31it is a very serious incident, and we also see a number of other incidents where
00:07:35the Russians are pushing the boundaries and are more risk-willing than they have been
00:07:38so far. Jeppe Bros, we'll talk again in a moment, but we just need to hear some of the
00:07:42other political reactions that have been today, because a broad cross-section of
00:07:45politicians stands united behind the Danish response, not least in relation to
00:07:49summoning the Russian ambassador for talks, but there are also reactions
00:07:53among the citizens, not least in Gæsser, when we
00:07:56woke up at home and were about to have coffee in the morning,
00:07:58I actually sat and talked about how close it had actually come,
00:08:02the concern is growing along the Baltic Sea coast, yes,
00:08:05what, what's next? The unrest feels closer, it
00:08:09is conflict-creating uh, and and all...
00:08:12necessary behind closed doors in the Ministry of Defense, the
00:08:16parliamentary defense committee is briefed about the incident, the Russians, they uh
00:08:19escalate, so we must handle this with the utmost seriousness we possibly
00:08:23can, and we do, and that is also why we react uh
00:08:26to the incident that happened yesterday, but is the government's response enough, are you talking about a
00:08:30strong reaction, there will also be a reaction, the Russian
00:08:33ambassador will be summoned, there is agreement not
00:08:37to activate NATO's Article 4, we don't believe we are
00:08:40there yet, and it is also important for us to maintain calm and not escalate towards
00:08:44the Russians. The government chooses the diplomatic path. What has it ever
00:08:48changed that an ambassador has been given a dressing down in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs?
00:08:50Udenrigsministeriet?
00:08:53You can't answer that, because you would then have to ask the question, what would have happened
00:08:57if you had never summoned an ambassador for a conversation? I mean, that's the
00:09:00tool we have. A choice that must avoid
00:09:03escalation. Yes, I don't think there is any need
00:09:06to escalate the conflict level
00:09:09further, so I also think it's the right approach the government has. In this
00:09:13current case, it's not that we back down diplomatically, as
00:09:17we do, we cooperate with our European
00:09:20colleagues, and most importantly of all, that we do not allow ourselves to be intimidated, well,
00:09:23this is always a balance, we don't want a direct war
00:09:29in the third world war, so it's a balance that we constantly
00:09:32have to find, uh, and land in the right place, and back at
00:09:36the harbor in Gæsser, for the idea of a conversation with the Russians
00:09:40doesn't get much traction, everything comes to everything else, I don't think much bites on the Russians,
00:09:43so whether you do a lot or
00:09:46not so much, I don't think it changes much about the
00:09:50Russians' attitude towards things. Jeppe
00:09:53Brus, I don't think there are divided opinions that this is difficult, but as politicians
00:09:57you can speak loudly and find balances, but as
00:10:00the citizen also says in the segment, not much bites on the Russians, isn't he right
00:10:04about that in reality?
00:10:08No, I mean, I would like to say, we, when this incident happens, it is
00:10:12because we have been following what the Russians are doing, and we are intensifying our surveillance both of the
00:10:16Danish straits, what is happening in the north, we are working very closely
00:10:19with our allies, and we are naturally observing what is happening, including these
00:10:23incidents, not only in Denmark, but also around Europe, and
00:10:26uh, and therefore we are strong alone, but we are also really
00:10:30strong because we are very closely connected with our allies,
00:10:34but how are we strong alone against a large
00:10:36Russia?
00:10:39Well, for example, having
00:10:43are doing, sharing information with others, being part
00:10:47of very close cooperation with our close
00:10:49allies, and also within the framework of NATO,
00:10:53uh, we have 800. 50 men and women in Latvia right now,
00:10:57who are also helping to guard the border between Latvia and
00:11:00and Russia, and in that way we also work closely with others, but
00:11:04Jeppe Brus, what if the unthinkable had happened and the helicopter here had been hit or if
00:11:08real ammunition had been used, what could Denmark then realistically have done
00:11:12here?
00:11:15Well, that's why we are part of both NATO and we have close
00:11:18allies, uh, and we are, because together we are
00:11:21strong, and I don't want to get into all sorts of speculations about what... could have
00:11:25happened if and if and if, it was a serious incident, we take it very seriously,
00:11:29and we also see this incident as part of an
00:11:32increased willingness from the Russian side to take more chances, and that is
00:11:36what we also have to deal with, Jeppe Brus, one could say Denmark has stood fast
00:11:40with Ukraine with enormous economic aid packages, drones are to be built,
00:11:43rocket fuel is to be produced on Danish soil and so on, is
00:11:47Denmark prepared for the fact that this can lead to unwanted
00:11:50attention?
00:11:53Yes, we are, and we will not be deterred by the Russians, and therefore this does not
00:11:57mean that we are backing down, but that we are continuing the
00:12:01intensification, the rearmament we are engaged in, which is both
00:12:04about helping the Ukrainians, because they are fighting for our freedom, but
00:12:08of course also about us constantly, day by day, becoming stronger in the defense of
00:12:12our own territory. Thank you for being here.
00:12:15her.
00:12:19Oliver Beck here is a teacher student and should have started an internship, but it
00:12:23requires a legally mandated child certificate, which is currently impossible to obtain due to
00:12:27a serious error in the criminal record, and hundreds of
00:12:29teacher students are facing this problem. He should
00:12:33have been in a classroom full of students. It's frustrating, it's
00:12:37annoying. But for Oliver Bæch, the teaching internship has been postponed. Everything is
00:12:41linked to this internship. Currently, the
00:12:44National Police cannot issue child certificates, which are a requirement
00:12:47if you want to work with children under 15 years old. It is important when you come
00:12:50out, as a teacher student, to come out in practice, that you get to try standing
00:12:54in a classroom, trying out the things you have prepared. The problem affects hundreds
00:12:58of students across the country. It is a big problem for our students, because a
00:13:02large part of their studies takes place in practice, so it is a
00:13:05significant part of their education. So if they cannot
00:13:09go into practice, then they don't get that part that is so important when you are going to
00:13:12be a teacher. The National Police has discovered that important
00:13:16information has been deleted in the central criminal register. For 12 days,
00:13:19a deletion error in the criminal register has meant that the National Police has suspended
00:13:23the issuance of child certificates. Now the error must be
00:13:27corrected. We have two tracks, so to speak. One is to
00:13:30cultivate this error and find out exactly what the scope and consequences are. The other is precisely
00:13:34to find out how we can, to the greatest extent possible, restore
00:13:38the criminal register, so we have a criminal register that can be relied
00:13:41upon. And how long can that take? Well, we are doing it as fast as we
00:13:44possibly can, and we are also trying to be open, which is why I am standing here and
00:13:48communicating about where we are all the time, because I know that a lot of people are following this, and
00:13:52it affects a lot of lives out there, both for our children and
00:13:55for those who are supposed to be hired to take care of them. Among the trainee teacher Oliver
00:13:59Beck, there is understanding and impatience, so I can understand why they have
00:14:03stopped this children's test, if it doesn't work, but for us it can
00:14:07still be super frustrating.
00:14:10The Minister of Justice cannot give an interview, but writes that he is aware of
00:14:13the problems, and that he will meet with the legal spokespersons later in the week to make
00:14:17a status.
00:14:19This evening, there is a town hall meeting in Nørrager in Djursland. Nearby
00:14:23there is a bog that is used to dig peat, which is used as spawnum
00:14:27for gardeners and garden centers, and the company behind it now wants to expand
00:14:30the area, but the neighbors want to stop it completely for the sake of nature
00:14:34and climate. So the water would normally have been up
00:14:38to here, even though Polnov Kelsen's property in Fuglsø bog
00:14:42is a bit away from the actual peat digging, he feels
00:14:45the consequences, because there is no longer water in his small
00:14:48bog holes in the summer and autumn. It happens that
00:14:52when they start in the summer. to extract
00:14:56out there, then the water level immediately drops here. For
00:14:59many years, Pindstrup Mosebrug has been digging peat for Spagnum
00:15:02bog. Now the company has applied to Region Midtjylland for permission to
00:15:06dig the last two parts of the bog that are still
00:15:09untouched. We fear that the last part of the unique nature that
00:15:13is out here will be removed. Bjerne Langdal Ries is one of the local
00:15:16landowners who initiated the town hall meeting. This
00:15:19is how most of Fuglsø Mose's old high moor looks
00:15:23today. Peat is dead, compacted
00:15:25plant remains that have been in bogs for hundreds or thousands of
00:15:29years. When the peat is dug up and used as spawnum,
00:15:33the stored CO2 from the plant remains is released freely
00:15:36into the atmosphere. And climatically,
00:15:39it's like burning oil. A lot of carbon has been bound
00:15:42in these soil types, and it is
00:15:45released the moment you start draining. Pindstrup Mosebrug has
00:15:49not wanted to give an interview, but says in a written
00:15:52quote: we are aware of the climate challenges of
00:15:55peat and the necessary transition towards
00:15:58alternatives is central to Pinstrup. We are continuously increasing
00:16:02the proportion of alternatives in our products.
00:16:05Bog restoration is an integrated part of our production. The problem is
00:16:09simply that it takes time to re-establish an old high moor. If
00:16:12you are to build up a meter of peat again,
00:16:16well, then, if you say it's a millimeter a year that you can
00:16:20build up with peat moss, then it takes 100 years.
00:16:23Paul Kielsen has the extra concern that he is about to
00:16:27become a neighbor to the new excavations. I hope
00:16:30that they do not get permission for it, and that they are told to restore
00:16:34what they are doing. is Jeppe Mitteby, as promised, from
00:16:37the town hall meeting, which starts in
00:16:40a little while. What is the expectation for
00:16:42the meeting?
00:16:45Well, the expectation for the many who have already shown up and those I have managed to talk to, the meeting
00:16:49only starts in half an hour, a quarter of an hour, is how
00:16:53will this company, which is also criticized in the segment, how will they respond to some of
00:16:56the criticism that is also coming here, and some of the bewilderment that the local community
00:17:00also has, and Bjern Langdal, we just heard from you also in the segment, I mean, there is no doubt where you
00:17:04stand, many of the locals who have shown up here stand. But conversely,
00:17:08peat is a product that is
00:17:11widely used and which is also a very good
00:17:15product, if you work as a gardener or as a hobby gardener for
00:17:18that matter, I mean, it's also a good product, so why throw it out with the
00:17:22bathwater? It's because it has such big consequences for a
00:17:26rare bog, and it has such big consequences
00:17:29for the climate, uh,
00:17:32it, it is our big carbon store that lies in the high moors, and when we dig them
00:17:36out, then we make them evaporate, and there are
00:17:39alternatives to this, it's just a matter of finding a formula for it, so
00:17:43no, of course we shouldn't continue to use such a product in
00:17:452026, but surely more people will benefit from
00:17:49the peat that can be produced than from locals who can use the area, or
00:17:53how? Sorry, I simply didn't get that. No, but surely, more people can
00:17:57benefit from the peat that can be extracted from the area than locals
00:18:01who can enjoy the area and its natural beauty. Yes, but we still
00:18:05have alternatives to this, and it would
00:18:09be exciting if this became a little wild moor number two,
00:18:12a place with a nature area, tourism and everything
00:18:15else, uh, so I'm not buying
00:18:19that. I was asked a little bit from the studio, what, what people
00:18:22expect from this meeting, so what do you hope, in as
00:18:26few words as you can put it, to get out of this meeting, which you helped
00:18:30to organize? I hope first and foremost that we will have a really good
00:18:33evening and some good discussions. We have some experts here who can
00:18:37tell us and make us a little wiser about this. We have Pinstop Mosebo here too, whom I
00:18:41deeply respect, who will come and share knowledge with us about their
00:18:45viewpoints, and we are fortunately still a
00:18:48society where we can disagree, and I think we will tonight,
00:18:51but I also think we will have a really good and constructive talk and
00:18:55a good meeting to
00:18:55you.
00:19:00Minister of Justice Nicolaj Vamme will put a stop to the police's so-called washing
00:19:04of cases. In May, the police received sharp criticism from
00:19:07the auditors and the National Audit Office for shelving several thousand cases that should
00:19:11have been investigated. Now the minister will implement all the National Audit Office's
00:19:15recommendations. In addition, we will also come up with a
00:19:18series of initiatives, among other things to ensure that what we have seen, namely, in a
00:19:22number of rape cases, the
00:19:26police have not investigated as they should, will now happen
00:19:29in the future.
00:19:32Moresø municipality must save 50 million Danish kroner, and this afternoon several
00:19:36citizens took to the streets. They are dissatisfied with plans to close two
00:19:39kindergartens, one school and implement savings in the
00:19:43elderly care sector. The municipal politicians will hold their first discussion today
00:19:45on the budget proposal, and the city council meeting has been moved from the City Hall to
00:19:49Arena Thy, because many attendees are expected. It goes
00:19:53straight to my heart, I get really sad that they can think of
00:19:56closing such good
00:19:58institutions.
00:20:02Two out of three children and young people between nine and seventeen years old have in the past year been
00:20:06exposed to verbal harassment or other unpleasant experiences on
00:20:10the internet. This is shown by a new study from Save the Children and TrygFonden with a
00:20:13mapping of 12 different forms of digital
00:20:16harassment. I was contacted by some of my
00:20:20friends' friends, um, and then they started writing a
00:20:23lot of unpleasant things. There are also just a lot of people who have contacted me, and then there are also just
00:20:27videos of dead animals and car accidents and stuff like that. And then it just ends
00:20:31with them sending nude photos and all sorts of things. The
00:20:34digital violations can range widely from comments from peers
00:20:38to more serious offenses by adults who, with
00:20:41criminal intentions, try to establish contact with children, and
00:20:44the experiences can have serious consequences. It affects
00:20:48children's and young people's ideas about what they themselves are worth, what others are
00:20:51worth. It can challenge their ideas about what boundaries they
00:20:54have. Save the Children recommends that parents ensure
00:20:58that their children do not get a phone until they are 13 years old, but the biggest responsibility
00:21:02lies with tech giants according to Save the Children.
00:21:05Tech giants must stop their addiction-creating
00:21:08behavioral design, their retention mechanisms. They must stop
00:21:11harvesting data from children under 18 years old. We need
00:21:15real age verification so that we actually know how old the children are
00:21:19on the platform.
00:21:21Neither Snapchat, Roblox, nor TikTok will grant interviews. Meta
00:21:25refers to Instagram's new teenage profiles, where there are limits on
00:21:28who can contact and what content one can
00:21:31see.
00:21:35A record was set last night with 14 awards for the same series at
00:21:38this year's Emmy awards in Los Angeles. This is the
00:21:41American horror comedy Widows Bay, which is thus the most
00:21:45awarded comedy series at a single Emmy awards ceremony. In the
00:21:49category of comedy series, it won, among others, for best series,
00:21:52best male lead, and best
00:21:54director.
00:22:00The American horror comedy won a total of 14 awards,
00:22:04which is historic. It is a strong series, original and funny and
00:22:08truly terrifying series.
00:22:11The series, set in the fictional town of Widows Bay, blends
00:22:15the genres of comedy and
00:22:16horror.
00:22:19When I first saw the episode, I went almost directly from
00:22:22laughing to my heart skipping a beat. The slug over, I mean, it was so incredibly
00:22:26clever, it's really well drawn.
00:22:29The main role went to Welshman Matthew Rhys
00:22:33in the same series, where he plays the mayor of the city trying to attract
00:22:37tourists. I hope to reflect on it tomorrow at the
00:22:40moment, genuinely can't quite believe what's just
00:22:43happened. His complex character is a good reflection of how
00:22:47films and series portray the male role today.
00:22:55I think there were awards for many series about men
00:22:59and a different kind of male type than we may have seen before, that is, the man who is
00:23:03afraid and the man who fumbles and the man who is
00:23:05in doubt. While American films and series
00:23:09were the big winners, the Danish element was conspicuously absent. Where were the Danes
00:23:12yesterday? They were in Venice.
00:23:15As recently as Saturday, the
00:23:20Danish film "A Woman Unknown" won the prestigious Golden Lion at the
00:23:23Venice Film Festival, so no
00:23:25need to worry according to the film editor. We have had
00:23:29Danish Emmy winners before, right now we have made our mark with film by winning an award
00:23:32in Venice. Maybe we should just enjoy it and wait for Danish TV drama to also go
00:23:36abroad in the
00:23:38future.
00:23:45This content about fitness and training and diet, it takes up an extreme
00:23:49amount of space on social media. The body ideal that I want
00:23:52comes from social media, you want to
00:23:56be like them, and fit into what you are constantly exposed to, you are encouraged
00:23:59to think that if I eat the same way, I will look
00:24:03that way, the turning point
00:24:05was being about to die,
00:24:09much of the content is presented as health
00:24:12or self-care, and what it actually is, is the exact
00:24:15opposite, the lie in your feed, it's a completely skewed plan, you
00:24:19get sick from eating like this now on DR TV.
00:24:34Good evening and welcome to TV Avisen 1830. This
00:24:37is a Russia that provokes and
00:24:40escalates. And we must not lie down for it. The
00:24:44political reactions are many today after a Russian naval vessel fired
00:24:47signal flares directly at an unarmed Danish
00:24:50helicopter.
00:24:52Jeppe Mittiby, you are at a town meeting in Duursland. Tell us what it's all
00:24:55about?
00:24:57About half a kilometer down this road, there is a high bog that the locals
00:25:01love, but the Pindestrup company wants to keep digging peat there, and the locals want to stop
00:25:05that. We stop
00:25:06it.
00:25:12An American horror-comedy won 14 awards at last night's
00:25:15Emmy Awards. We'll hear more about "Widows Bay" later in the
00:25:18broadcast.
00:25:26A Russian warship has fired two signal flares at a Danish
00:25:29military helicopter. One was close to hitting the helicopter, which was
00:25:32unarmed. Its task was to take pictures of the Russian
00:25:36vessel. Well, we take it very seriously. It is serious when a Danish
00:25:40military helicopter is fired upon in
00:25:43international waters, monitoring a Russian
00:25:46frigate. There is no precise description of where it happened,
00:25:50but the message from the defense is that the incident took place in international waters
00:25:54off Læsø. The defense is very reluctant to
00:25:57provide information about the incident with the Russian frigate, but several
00:26:01experts have no doubt that it could have gone very wrong. These
00:26:05here, well, they shoot a couple of hundred meters into the air, and then there's this fireball that
00:26:08falls to the ground. All ships, both civilian and military, have
00:26:12signal flares on board, so they can eventually call for help. It's a
00:26:15small incendiary bomb that you shoot off, so of course it's dangerous, that's also why we don't
00:26:19just shoot them off for fun. We don't know what type of signal flare was
00:26:22fired from the Russian frigate. It was a
00:26:25helicopter of this type, called Fenik, that was out to take pictures of the
00:26:29Russian ship. It's what you call a light helicopter, it's a
00:26:33civilian version essentially, it's a civilian helicopter with military
00:26:36markings. The probability of being hit by a flare is very low, but if you are hit, the
00:26:40probability of serious damage is high, if it hits the engine, the engine can stall, and
00:26:43that explains itself what happens then, now they flew with the door open because they had to take
00:26:47pictures of a burning flare floating into the cabin or
00:26:51cockpit, then it's completely wrong. In peacetime, there is normally a very
00:26:55fixed procedure for how to warn each other when encountering a
00:26:58military vessel from the opposing side. Normally it is, if you as a
00:27:02vessel wish that others do not approach, you would call them on the radio and
00:27:06try to push them away that way,
00:27:08um, and then you can maybe also flash lights at them, there are several different
00:27:12communication methods to get them away, and
00:27:14then it escalates, you could say, the
00:27:17closer it comes. We do not know if there were other
00:27:21warnings from the Russian ship before it shot at the helicopter.
00:27:24Russia's ambassador to Denmark blames the Danish helicopter in a written reply, claiming
00:27:28it acted provocatively and flew too
00:27:32close. This video was recorded two weeks
00:27:35ago by a private individual, Frank Olesen, on his way to Hirtshals, and shows
00:27:39the Russian ship Akademik Nikolai Strakov and a helicopter that
00:27:43resembles a Danish military Fenek helicopter. The defense will not
00:27:46confirm that this is what happened, but this
00:27:50is perhaps what it looks like when Russian ships are inspected by Danish
00:27:53helicopters. Well, there's no doubt that there's more tension
00:27:57now, I mean, there's no doubt that we are more on edge with each other, and
00:28:01therefore such signals are also incredibly dangerous, how are
00:28:04our activities perceived by
00:28:07the enemy, if I may say so, and it may well be that what we could do three,
00:28:10four, five years ago, we can't do anymore, because we are actually
00:28:14both a bit on edge with each other, and that's the
00:28:17dangerous thing, that such signals can be misunderstood, and suddenly it
00:28:21escalates. Since Russia launched its
00:28:25full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, there have been a number of
00:28:29similar incidents. In October 2022, a
00:28:32Russian Su-27 fighter jet fired a missile close to a British
00:28:36unmanned surveillance aircraft in international airspace over the
00:28:39Black Sea. The Russian authorities subsequently attributed it to
00:28:43a technical error. In December 2024, a Russian
00:28:46warship fired signal flares at a German military helicopter during a
00:28:50surveillance mission in the Baltic Sea, and earlier this year, in June, the
00:28:53crew of the Russian frigate Admiral
00:28:57Grigorovich fired warning shots at a British yacht in the English
00:29:00Channel. According to the Russian authorities, something they did to avoid a
00:29:04collision.
00:29:06Welcome, Jeppe Brus. The Russian ambassador says that the
00:29:10Danish helicopter acted provocatively. What do you say to that
00:29:13reaction?
00:29:16Well, I say that what the defense tells
00:29:22yesterday is completely similar to what has been done many times
00:29:25before, that is, they monitor a Russian frigate in
00:29:29international waters, they behave in the same way as they have done
00:29:32before. What was abnormal yesterday, yes, it was that the Russians
00:29:35fired these flares, that is, signal flares at the Danish
00:29:39helicopter. Uh, Russia's ambassador also says that the Danish
00:29:42side shows no interest in preventing the situation at sea
00:29:46from escalating, to paraphrase here, and that the Danes have refused to
00:29:49implement confidence-building measures, as it is called. What do you say to that
00:29:53criticism?
00:29:56Well, it's very strange that when that incident happens, and then you don't, if there's a
00:29:59problem, contact the Danish helicopter from the Russian frigate, there's actually
00:30:03plenty of opportunity to do that, we have radio and other ways of doing it, they don't
00:30:07do it, so without warning, they fire these signal flares very
00:30:11close to the Danish helicopter, and it could have gone completely wrong, and therefore it's a very serious
00:30:15incident, and we also see a number of other incidents where the Russians are pushing
00:30:18boundaries and are more risk-averse than they have been so far. Jeppe
00:30:22Bros, we'll talk again in a moment, but we just need to hear some of the other political
00:30:25reactions that have been today, because a broad cross-section of politicians stands
00:30:29united behind the Danish response, not least in relation to... calling the Russian
00:30:33ambassador for talks, but there are also reactions among the citizens, not
00:30:37least in Læsø. When we woke up at home and had our
00:30:40morning coffee, we actually sat and talked
00:30:43about how close it actually came. The concern rises along the
00:30:46Baltic Sea coast. Yes, what can, what will be next?
00:30:49The unrest feels closer. It is conflict-creating,
00:30:53uh, and completely unnecessary. Behind closed doors at the
00:30:56Ministry of Defense, the parliamentary committee is briefed on the incident.