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Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a quotation record.

00:01:01"in some societies also somewhat repelling, but
00:01:05secondly, what I'm saying is that now we come back to the custom space,
00:01:08I still like to use that word pair, that
00:01:11term, then the Estonian custom space is still, well, relatively
00:01:14close to the custom space of the countries where Estonians
00:01:18emigrated, unlike refugees from the Middle East or North Africa
00:01:22or wherever they all come from, and that is
00:01:24still a huge change for them, they can't cope
00:01:28here, they don't understand what the rules of the game are." " are, um, they
00:01:31try to behave as they did in their old homeland,
00:01:34and then our mistake is that, I'm now generalizing
00:01:38based on Germany, that the
00:01:41multiculturalism, multi-culti concept,
00:01:44it was thought that they would come from there with their
00:01:47own customs, which might be very different
00:01:50from ours, but they would somehow find their niches
00:01:54and then live their own lives in parallel, while enriching
00:01:57the, uh, light
00:02:00culture, light culture is such a very close
00:02:03concept to custom space, well, they enrich the cultural life of the
00:02:07old European peoples, and this
00:02:10was such a very idealistic,
00:02:13naive expectation, because reality shows that these things
00:02:16don't go so smoothly, and since these things don't go smoothly at all,
00:02:20in reality, then such populist movements
00:02:24like Maaga in America or AFD
00:02:27in Germany, they gain momentum. And I also understand
00:02:30very well the roots of this
00:02:33phenomenon, incidentally, I now, just in case, emphasize
00:02:37to the listeners that understanding does not mean approval,
00:02:40although sometimes people think they are synonyms, that if I understand
00:02:43something, it means that I approve, but well, I am
00:02:46just such a social observer, I consciously put myself sometimes
00:02:50in the position of an outsider, it's a little more comfortable
00:02:54and creates a certain distance, also regarding some Estonian
00:02:57phenomena and processes, I consciously take the position
00:03:00of an outsider, it's easier for me too.
00:03:04I never miss an opportunity to listen to your comments
00:03:08on the Russian-Ukrainian fronts on Viker morning.
00:03:11It seems to me that your information channels are somewhat
00:03:15different from those on which we hear information
00:03:19every day, so what channels do you follow
00:03:22to stay informed about events in Europe or
00:03:26Ukraine? After the outbreak
00:03:29of this full-scale war, many Russian
00:03:31journalists, proper Russian journalists immigrated
00:03:34to the West, and now they have created their own
00:03:37media channels there, it's not just Dost
00:03:41or rain in Estonian, but there is also
00:03:45Alexander Blushev, he was once one of the big players
00:03:49at Ehomaskvõu, so he has now created his own such a
00:03:52podcast channel, breakfast show in the mornings
00:03:55incidentally, and there are many such
00:03:59well, again... people who have emigrated from Russia
00:04:02and are declared wanted there, who then provide extensively, well,
00:04:06analytical
00:04:09material for thought on what is happening in Ukraine,
00:04:13so why do I trust them? Firstly, they are
00:04:17in sharp confrontation with
00:04:19the Putin regime, and secondly, because it is still
00:04:23their so-called society or former homeland
00:04:26that is fighting, they are extremely interested in also... monitoring these
00:04:30processes, and in some sense, it is still
00:04:34their personal matter, which
00:04:36cannot be said about German-American
00:04:39French analysts, and by following these
00:04:43sources and channels, I have realized an interesting paradox
00:04:47that now concerns our own media coverage of the war
00:04:50in Ukraine, I have come to the conclusion that most of what
00:04:54is said here is Ukrainian
00:04:56propaganda. Now please take it easy.
00:05:00"Let's take a deep breath in, take a deep breath out,
00:05:03I'll explain my thought,
00:05:06it's that old old joke, what's the difference between a scout
00:05:09and a spy? A scout is our man, a spy
00:05:13is their man. What's the difference between a journalist
00:05:16and a propagandist? A journalist is our man, a propagandist is their
00:05:20man. Since we sympathize so much with Ukraine,
00:05:23we tend to convey such information or make such
00:05:27conclusions that seem to indicate
00:05:30that, firstly, we are on Ukraine's side, that we want Ukraine to win, and then
00:05:34we start to gloss over reality again. At some point
00:05:38I actually decided that I would no longer participate in this, I did write
00:05:42war diaries, which we have in Delfi media,
00:05:45and for about a year and a half I played
00:05:48along, but then I realized that
00:05:51it's impossible to endlessly predict the imminent
00:05:55collapse of the Putin regime, it's impossible to seriously
00:05:58talk about Ukraine inevitably winning,
00:06:01because truth and justice and and everything, God
00:06:05himself is on Ukraine's side, the war is now dragging on for the fifth
00:06:08year, no solution is in sight, and all those
00:06:11optimistic stories from back then, in which
00:06:15I myself participated a little, they turn
00:06:18out in hindsight to be us deluding ourselves,
00:06:21so that our mood would improve,
00:06:25and the same thing is happening now with this Middle East conflict, because I very, very
00:06:29closely follow what BBC or Guardian, two
00:06:33publications that were once my favorites, what they write about
00:06:36events in the Middle East, then they have become similar propagandists, who
00:06:40have then clearly taken the Palestinian side,
00:06:43as if that would somehow alleviate
00:06:46the suffering of the people, help to change
00:06:50something? I don't know if I answered your
00:06:53question, it's again what we started our conversation
00:06:57with, which is that we look in the mirror, wishing to see
00:07:00what we like or
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