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00:00:00it seems, it's right, as a transitional
00:00:03moment until the bill is
00:00:06passed, and everything is already
00:00:09in the legal framework, because we understand that
00:00:13passing a bill, well, it's quite
00:00:16interesting, quite ambiguous,
00:00:19it takes a certain amount of time, and it
00:00:23won't all be passed next week, I remind you, the Verkhovna Rada will meet
00:00:27in general in three weeks,
00:00:31that is, until the end of October, at least we will have
00:00:34an acting prosecutor general, and it seems that during this
00:00:38time an informal competition
00:00:40could have been held, and this is such a good, by the way,
00:00:44initiative and a good intermediate
00:00:47option until the bill
00:00:50is passed and enters into force, but
00:00:53the fact that there is no prosecutor general probably should
00:00:57please the people's deputies of Ukraine. Because it is the Prosecutor
00:01:01General of Ukraine who addresses the Verkhovna Rada if
00:01:04it is necessary to deprive a deputy
00:01:08of powers of one or another deputy who is suspected
00:01:11of committing criminal offenses.
00:01:14Well, with this, you know, the acting prosecutor general
00:01:17can address it, but, in fact, he has all the
00:01:21same duties as the prosecutor general,
00:01:25but we understand that, probably,
00:01:28the people's deputies are more... in trouble, well, not all of them,
00:01:32but we know that there are currently more than 50 acting
00:01:35MPs who have suspicions from anti-corruption
00:01:38bodies, so, in fact, they would probably be more pleased if,
00:01:42for example, anti-corruption bodies were disbanded, or
00:01:46if, the model of the mechanism
00:01:49of July last year, when, in fact,
00:01:52anti-corruption bodies were supposed to be transferred
00:01:56to the prosecutor general, under the influence of the prosecutor general's office, they were supposed to come out more.
00:02:00We remember this scandalous bill on restrictions on
00:02:03powers,
00:02:06in fact, it seems that this pleased some
00:02:09people's deputies more than the absence, the temporary absence of the prosecutor
00:02:13general. Iryna, if you talk
00:02:16about responsibility and consequences, that is,
00:02:19what should be such a stimulus for a person
00:02:23in the position of prosecutor general, or there
00:02:26deputies, in general prosecutors, so that, well,
00:02:29there are no violations of the law, bribes, so that a person works honestly,
00:02:33eventually, does not flee the
00:02:36country, what kind of stimulus can this be? Uh, well, in fact,
00:02:39the biggest, it seems to me, stimulus is conscience, but unfortunately,
00:02:43rarely does anyone use it, they use
00:02:46more of the stimulus that is prescribed in criminal
00:02:50legislation, criminal procedural legislation, and
00:02:53that's why we know that for bribery, for
00:02:56some illegal actions during the stay
00:03:00in a state position, rather strict
00:03:04sanctions are provided, and at the same time, this does not quite
00:03:07deter some officials,
00:03:11we remember, we recently observed
00:03:15the NABU-SAP special operation, Carthage,
00:03:18and, well, in fact, I don't know
00:03:21what other stimuli there should be, besides
00:03:24the fact that you need to do your work conscientiously
00:03:27and bear responsibility for your actions,
00:03:31especially when you are in such a high state
00:03:34position. The confrontation between the Office of the Prosecutor
00:03:37General and anti-corruption bodies, is this
00:03:41an institutional crisis that exists or is developing in
00:03:44Ukraine, or should
00:03:46the current conflict and what is unfolding before
00:03:50our eyes be perceived as
00:03:53a personal rejection of one leader
00:03:56of two anti-corruption bodies?
00:04:00If it is an institutional crisis,
00:04:04how should it be resolved?
00:04:07Well, in fact, I wouldn't call it, directly,
00:04:09an institutional crisis, because from time to time we see
00:04:13that state bodies, law enforcement agencies in Ukraine,
00:04:16they somehow oppose each
00:04:19other, and probably some personal motives are superimposed here,
00:04:22because we don't know for sure what exactly
00:04:25caused Mr. former Prosecutor
00:04:29General... Ruslan Kravchenko, in fact,
00:04:32to accuse Semen Kryvonos, who is
00:04:35the head of NABU, I remind you, so
00:04:38here, in fact, it's probably something in the middle, somewhere, you know,
00:04:41some institutional shortcomings,
00:04:43plus some possible
00:04:46personal, I don't want to call it
00:04:49conflicts, but at least some
00:04:52animosity was definitely there, because, well,
00:04:56it's quite difficult to comment on something here
00:05:00and say, because we already see only the consequences, and the reasons
00:05:04that led to this can actually be very, very different and
00:05:07even such that we don't even suspect, if
00:05:11we talk about... finding that conscience, which
00:05:14you said, yes, which should have been, it seemed,
00:05:17a stimulus, but after all,
00:05:20how to find it, where to find it, and whether it can be found
00:05:24in fear of responsibility, that is,
00:05:27these people who headed the prosecutor's office,
00:05:31the Prosecutor General's Office, and who fled
00:05:34abroad, should justice
00:05:36catch up with them, should punishment
00:05:39catch up with them, so that it is exemplary.
00:05:42A lesson for future leaders
00:05:45of the Prosecutor General's Office, that is, the same Kravchenko, well, what,
00:05:49he successfully planned his
00:05:53escape, and that's it, or should Ukraine
00:05:56persecute him,
00:06:00return him, but on the one hand, we don't see any suspicion against him either, right,
00:06:03that is, is there anything to punish
00:06:06him for then? Well, certainly, without suspicion, we
00:06:09cannot initiate his return in any way. Uh, until
00:06:13there is a corresponding, again, excuse me, I will repeat, tautology
00:06:17of suspicion from investigative bodies, from law enforcement
00:06:21bodies, this will already be a reason
00:06:24to demand his return
00:06:27from abroad, so, in fact,
00:06:31it is unclear, we know, we listened,
00:06:35of course, to what is currently available in the
00:06:38information space from these NABU tapes, the Carthage case.
00:06:42We heard some mysterious chief, uh, I remind you
00:06:46that some characters have their own, well, as if
00:06:50other names, uh, and,
00:06:53but it is not known for sure whether this chief is actually
00:06:57the prosecutor general himself, or perhaps someone else, we can only
00:07:00guess, and that, in fact, is interesting, we will, of course,
00:07:04observe whether Ruslan Kravchenko
00:07:07receives a suspicion, and what kind of suspicion it will be if he
00:07:11receives it, or maybe... he will receive it, that is,
00:07:14here, you know, such a rather
00:07:18ambiguous story
00:07:20unfolds, because will this all
00:07:23be dismissed, and well, while they are currently
00:07:27voting for his dismissal, there was some
00:07:31information noise, will this information noise not
00:07:34come to naught and we will simply hear somewhere sometime
00:07:38that Ruslan Kravchenko was appointed
00:07:41ambassador to... some European, or let it be
00:07:44Asian, African state, because we understand that in our
00:07:48country, unfortunately, such appointments are quite
00:07:51frequent, well, with prosecutor generals for sure, two
00:07:54former prosecutor generals of Zelensky are already working
00:07:57as ambassadors, one just lives abroad, and this is already the fourth
00:08:01prosecutor general who has left the borders of the Ukrainian state,
00:08:05everyone has different motives, but the fact itself, at the same time we
00:08:08see how Ruslan Kravchenko torpedoed the director...
00:08:12Semen Kryvonos released a series
00:08:15of videos and there are audio recordings there and
00:08:19video recordings, whether these cases
00:08:23regarding Semen Kryvonos can unfold in
00:08:26Ukraine, well, that is, so that
00:08:29clearly about the activities
00:08:32of Semen Kryvonos and regarding these accusations, after all,
00:08:36someone competent answered, because Ruslan
00:08:39Kravchenko published these...
00:08:42videos while still being in the status of prosecutor general and
00:08:45he issued a suspicion to him while still being the prosecutor
00:08:48general, well, here the investigation must put all the
00:08:51dots on the i's, because
00:08:55we must understand whether there is sufficient evidence in this situation,
00:08:59or whether there is actually a subject about which one can talk
00:09:02at the level of some criminal
00:09:05suspicion, therefore,
00:09:09in fact, it is quite interesting why...
00:09:12Kravchenko only almost in the last days, in
00:09:16the last hours of his, let's say,
00:09:19prosecutor general's activity, decided
00:09:22to torpedo this
00:09:25case, this, you know, already somehow raises
00:09:29many questions, but still all
00:09:31answers must be given by the relevant law enforcement
00:09:35agencies, if the case goes further, then
00:09:38judicial agencies, and we can only somehow
00:09:42at some... level guess, at some
00:09:44level understand what it is, what it is and
00:09:48how, but again, the final decision is made
00:09:51only by those bodies that have the functional
00:09:55powers to do so. Iryna, thank you, thank you for joining
00:09:59the Espreso broadcast today, Iryna Korzhenkova, analyst
00:10:02of the Chesno movement was our guest, we talked about what is in
00:10:06the country, an institutional crisis, how to call it and how
00:10:09to actually be, so that in the future.
00:10:13the state there would reinsure itself, so as not to
00:10:15allow similar or even
00:10:18worse stories with people who hold such
00:10:22positions in law enforcement agencies, then. do not bear
00:10:25responsibility for their actions and
00:10:28words. Next on our line is Taras Borovsky, lawyer,
00:10:32former advisor to the deputy Minister of Defense. Mr. Taras,
00:10:35we welcome you, thank you for being with us today. Good
00:10:38day. Good day. So, we
00:10:42will talk about the situation in the Ukrainian army, here in
00:10:46the Army. Plus app, the status on leave will start
00:10:49to be displayed without the need for a visit
00:10:52to the TCC TSP. Uh,
00:10:55what has changed in this regime for granting leave
00:10:59to military personnel, is it easier now for military personnel to get their legal
00:11:02leave, or let's say,
00:11:05a reduction, is there such a reduction in bureaucracy,
00:11:08due to the fact that more documents can now be kept
00:11:11in the application?
00:11:15Undoubtedly, the Army Plus application
00:11:18greatly simplifies the life of servicemen,
00:11:22for now, let's say...
00:11:26few functions in it work and help properly,
00:11:29but still, even such a function, as getting leave status,
00:11:33this is already great,
00:11:37and looking ahead, let's say, at
00:11:40the expansion of its work and functionality, it can be said
00:11:43that the
00:11:47Army Plus application should make,
00:11:50let's say, service in the army less
00:11:53bureaucratized, while maintaining all those
00:11:57standards of accounting for the status
00:12:00of citizens who serve in the armed
00:12:03forces. Servicemen of the armed forces
00:12:06of Ukraine used to complain that quite often, when they wanted
00:12:10to take leave, they were told that
00:12:13there was no one to replace them,
00:12:17whether it is clear now in the current situation, if
00:12:21the structure of obtaining leave changes
00:12:25at all, how and in what
00:12:27way
00:12:29to conduct full rotations so that people who went on leave are
00:12:33replaced by someone, and whether this
00:12:36issue will be resolved by the current mobilization, how much these
00:12:39processes are interconnected, and
00:12:43the issue of rest for active military personnel is, of course,
00:12:47very important both for unit commanders and
00:12:51for Ukrainian society as a whole.
00:12:54Comrades, it is worth not confusing the concepts of rotation,
00:12:58leave, rest, and so on. If the
00:13:02law today provides
00:13:05a norm that stipulates that
00:13:08simultaneously on leave, no more
00:13:11than 70% of the personnel of the relevant
00:13:14unit can be, and therefore the commander's
00:13:18decision
00:13:21entails, let's say, responsibility for him not having
00:13:25more than 30% of the personnel on leave at the same
00:13:28time, so that his unit can perform certain
00:13:32tasks, by no means all military personnel,
00:13:35to put it mildly, are at the front, by no means all military personnel
00:13:39are fighting with weapons
00:13:43in their hands, so of course, the norm
00:13:46applies and the norm of leaves probably applies and
00:13:50is discussed more, regarding those who are currently, let's say,
00:13:53on rotation, on rest, on
00:13:55recovery, and so on, well, if
00:13:59a serviceman has already been involved in performing combat
00:14:02tasks, it is quite difficult to go
00:14:06on leave from there, I think it is
00:14:09worth waiting for this rotation and
00:14:13replacement, regarding your question
00:14:16about who to replace, it remains relevant,
00:14:19Ukraine is waging war against a huge enemy,
00:14:23quantitatively and in terms of forces
00:14:25and means greater than us,
00:14:29accordingly, we must
00:14:32somehow get new people and
00:14:34uh, somehow find them,
00:14:38thank you, somehow find new people,
00:14:41accordingly, mobilization work continues,
00:14:45which uh, is constantly
00:14:49discussed and criticized, however, without
00:14:52mobilization, rotation, leave, and dismissals,
00:14:55demobilization, we probably won't see it,
00:14:59if we talk about such cases, I know about such
00:15:02cases, you know, when, literally
00:15:06for years, not just for a year, even for two years,
00:15:09a serviceman cannot take leave, that is,
00:15:13they don't give it, are there any levers of influence,
00:15:17or how can this application help,
00:15:21these changes, can they help to ensure that this leave is granted,
00:15:25or if there is no decision
00:15:28from the commander, and this desire from the
00:15:31commander, then servicemen
00:15:35will not get their legal leave. In each
00:15:39specific case, we need to investigate and check the reasons
00:15:42that prevent a particular
00:15:45serviceman from getting their legally guaranteed
00:15:49leave. Today, each serviceman is legally
00:15:53guaranteed a thirty-day annual
00:15:56leave, and 10 days of leave can be taken
00:16:00for family circumstances at the discretion
00:16:02of the commander, regarding
00:16:05that, and that... you can
00:16:08break up 30 days and take leave in smaller parts,
00:16:12but the main part should not be less
00:16:16than 15 days, accordingly, if
00:16:19the commander has arranged the work and
00:16:22service in the unit in such a way that you have not seen
00:16:25leave for several years and do not go there, this is probably
00:16:29because the commander is not coping with his
00:16:32duties, you can complain about him to
00:16:36the Main Directorate for the Protection of the Rights of Servicemen of the Ministry
00:16:39of Defense of Ukraine, if you serve in the structure of the Ministry of Defense
00:16:42of Ukraine, or to the relevant higher authorities
00:16:46of the National Guard or the Security Service,
00:16:49or depending on where you serve, or in
00:16:52the Main Directorate of Intelligence or
00:16:55in the State Special Transport Service, we have
00:16:58servicemen in different structures today,
00:17:01accordingly, the commander, I think, will pay
00:17:05attention after the complaint and... will grant you
00:17:08leave, the only thing, of course, you don't need to quarrel
00:17:11with the commander destructively, you should always,
00:17:15I think, be in contact with him and in conversation, and then such situations will not
00:17:19arise, well, but as far as I
00:17:22understand, that a report can be submitted in
00:17:25electronic form, now through Reserve+ app,
00:17:29through the Army Plus system,
00:17:31and how does this help
00:17:34to overcome the commander's ignoring
00:17:38the request for leave, that is, how clearly
00:17:42this system makes it clear
00:17:46that this report is recorded,
00:17:48that this report must be
00:17:52executed, well, at least by the commander, or at least the commander must pay
00:17:56attention to it, and not ignore it,
00:17:59you are looking straight at the root of the problem, first of all,
00:18:02what happens to reports, they are not
00:18:05registered, often they are not registered,
00:18:09and a serviceman submits a report, it can theoretically be
00:18:13lost, and they can say that he did not
00:18:16submit this report, accordingly, and if he
00:18:19did not submit it, then the commander does not have an obligation to react to
00:18:23it in any way, satisfy it or deny
00:18:26its satisfaction, accordingly, the
00:18:29Army Plus application allows
00:18:32to record the submission of this report in digital
00:18:35form and create...
00:18:38an obligation within a certain period
00:18:41for the commander to react and consider this report,
00:18:44accordingly, the application helps
00:18:47with this, at the same time, due to the fact
00:18:51that there is a shortage of people in general,
00:18:54and in units, there is a certain shortage
00:18:58of people in specific ones, then
00:19:01in principle, commanders find legal, among
00:19:04other things, grounds to somehow possibly drag
00:19:08out the resolution of the leave issue, at the same time, I will
00:19:12say again, our Ukrainian army is
00:19:14the army of a free state, we have excellent commanders, you need to
00:19:18approach them and speak out loud about your
00:19:22problems, I think they will hear you. And what
00:19:25happens to these unused days
00:19:28of leave during martial law for
00:19:31servicemen of the armed forces, do they expire, or are they then subject to
00:19:35some material compensation for the fact that people did not take
00:19:38leave, as with ordinary
00:19:42employees, according to the Labor Code,
00:19:45leave is either used in the form of
00:19:48paid days off, and
00:19:51paid as if you are working, yes, or
00:19:55compensation for unused leave after
00:19:58dismissal, if we talk about Taras,
00:20:01the number of appeals to you on this matter, and on the matter
00:20:05of leaves, which can be, I
00:20:09deal with criminal proceedings in
00:20:12the field of defense, only journalists turn to me
00:20:15about leaves, ah, that's how it is, please tell
00:20:19us then from the appeals you
00:20:22deal with, what is the percentage
00:20:25of which problems are the most common?
00:20:2999%
00:20:32criminal cases,
00:20:34still criminal offenses, what
00:20:38kind of nature, please specify, this is also interesting,
00:20:42robbery, rape,
00:20:46desertion, kidnapping of people. This is what I
00:20:49deal with, not leaves, is it all
00:20:51directly related to the military or not, or not
00:20:55only to the military, related to servicemen, related to
00:20:58servicemen, so what is the scale of these crimes according to your
00:21:02observations during martial law, if it can be discussed
00:21:06publicly, of course,
00:21:08uh, it can be discussed
00:21:11publicly in general terms,
00:21:15because I am somewhat limited by attorney-client
00:21:18privilege... attorney-client
00:21:21privilege, uh, just like
00:21:24everywhere,
00:21:26in the army there are different people, different situations happen
00:21:30to them, sometimes they are related to
00:21:33the performance
00:21:35of military duties, sometimes they are not related to
00:21:39this, however, military lawyer, you called me
00:21:43at the beginning, it seems, well, I am a military lawyer precisely in criminal
00:21:47proceedings that concern servicemen.
00:21:51and regarding events that happen to them, as
00:21:54victims, or as defendants in certain
00:21:57offenses, stipulated by the criminal code, mostly
00:22:00so. Thank you, Taras, for joining us, we see that they are already
00:22:04waiting for you, we need to let you go for a certain time. Thank you for your
00:22:07expertise, Taras Borovsky, lawyer, military lawyer, former
00:22:11advisor to the deputy Minister of Defense in
00:22:142024-25 years, we talked about leave
00:22:18for military personnel. Next, a few important news items,
00:22:22well, first, our neighbors in Poland are planning
00:22:25to install over 100 sirens near the border with
00:22:28Ukraine, Polish Interior Minister
00:22:31Marcin Kierwinski announced the strengthening
00:22:35of civil defense along the eastern border,
00:22:39there they will install these thousand
00:22:41automated sirens, he announced this at a briefing, as
00:22:45reported by Polish radio, and the minister stated that Russia
00:22:49has changed its... tactics and border crossings and other
00:22:52infrastructure near the border are increasingly
00:22:56subjected to attacks by jet
00:22:58drones and missiles. Next, I quote: we are increasingly
00:23:02turning to means designed to counter
00:23:06these threats. This is how he said that at the beginning
00:23:09of 2024, there were only 30 working
00:23:13sirens in the region that could be activated remotely. Today,
00:23:17their number has increased, there are 350 of them. Well,
00:23:20and the expansion will help to achieve
00:23:24another indicator, namely a thousand sirens. Well, and France
00:23:27is preparing for hybrid attacks by Russia, French
00:23:31media report this, Emmanuel
00:23:34Macron on Friday, September 18, held
00:23:37a meeting with the leaders of all political parties, including
00:23:40candidates in the 2027 presidential elections,
00:23:44they talked about threats from the Russian Federation, we see
00:23:47how Europe is preparing
00:23:51for possible serious possible provocations
00:23:54from the Russian Federation, and Poland, and France, and
00:23:57Germany, openly say that
00:24:00attacks, hybrid attacks, attacks
00:24:04by Russians on their territory are
00:24:07quite probable over the next
00:24:11few years, Poland is much more seriously preparing
00:24:14for this, but we know that in Europe they are preparing
00:24:17to create a security council
00:24:20with the participation of Ukraine, we will talk about this in
00:24:23our next studios, we will also talk about the
00:24:26budget, an important topic, we will analyze what
00:24:30risks exist already this year, and next
00:24:33year, so stay tuned to Espreso, next you will find
00:24:37important news from Oksana Vysochanska, and then we with
00:24:40Serhii will return to this
00:24:41studio.
00:25:01If you have the right to a deferment from mobilization, you need
00:25:04to formalize it. You can do this in two ways: through
00:25:08the Reserve++ application or by visiting the administrative
00:25:11services center. If you chose the Reserve Plus application,
00:25:15launch it. Open the services section.
00:25:18Next, request a deferment and specify the reason. The system
00:25:22will automatically check the data in state registers. If there
00:25:26is not enough, you will receive a corresponding message and it will
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00:25:32the administrative services center personally. Bring your passport,
00:25:36an identification code and paper or scanned documents that
00:25:39confirm your right to a deferment. When you come to
00:25:42the CNAP, contact the administrator who will help you get to
00:25:46the right specialist. You have the right, confirm it with documentation.
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00:28:09When there are shellings and urgent help is needed,
00:28:13thousands of pharmacists across the country open pharmacy
00:28:17doors daily. They support,
00:28:21consult, save from injuries,
00:28:23despair. Today and always,
00:28:27say thank you to your pharmacist for
00:28:29pharmaceutical care. Thank you for being... Next to
00:28:33September 19.
00:30:26Welcome to Espreso, these are the news and Oksana Vysochanska is in the studio.
00:30:29We start with strikes on Russia. In Moscow
00:30:32airports, due to a massive drone attack, more than 400
00:30:36flights were delayed and canceled. The most restrictions were at
00:30:39Sheremetyevo, where by noon more than 30
00:30:42aircraft were off schedule, and more than 240 were delayed for arrival and
00:30:46departure. Some aircraft were redirected to Nizhny Novgorod,
00:30:50Kazan, Cheboksary and St. Petersburg. At
00:30:53Vnukovo, 11 flights were canceled, and another 129
00:30:56were delayed. At Domodedovo, one flight was canceled and 27.