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00:00:00Drone brigades, vehicles and pickups,
00:00:03we will protect those who protect us,
00:00:26welcome to Espreso, these are the news and Oksana is in the studio.
00:00:30We start with strikes on Russia. In Moscow airports, due to a massive drone
00:00:32attack, over 400
00:00:36flights were delayed and cancelled. The most restrictions were at
00:00:39Sheremetyevo, where by noon over 30 planes were off schedule,
00:00:42and over 240 more were delayed for arrival and
00:00:46departure. Some aircraft were redirected to Nizhny Novgorod,
00:00:50Kazan, Cheboksary and St. Petersburg. At
00:00:53Vnukovo, 11 flights were cancelled, and another 129
00:00:56were delayed. At Domodedovo, one flight was cancelled and 20 were
00:01:00delayed. At Zhukovsky airport, two flights were cancelled
00:01:03and seven were delayed. The press services of Russian airports
00:01:07stated that flights are operating and working
00:01:11according to a revised schedule. Vnukovo reported a
00:01:14gradual return to normal
00:01:16operations.
00:01:19The Moscow region of Russia suffered a massive drone
00:01:22attack overnight, after which fires broke out in several areas.
00:01:26In particular, a large fire occurred on the territory of the warehouse complex in...
00:01:31There were also reports of explosions near TES-22 in Lyubertsy, where Russian
00:01:34air defense tried to shoot down drones, as monitoring
00:01:37Telegram channels write. Drones also attacked the area of the Moscow
00:01:41oil refinery in Kapotnya, where a fire could
00:01:44have broken out near one of the installations. Videos of the consequences of the attack
00:01:48and the work of Russian air
00:01:52defense are circulating online. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin announced the
00:01:55most massive drone attack on the Russian capital. According to
00:01:59him, since September 15, the Russian air defense has allegedly
00:02:02intercepted over 1600
00:02:06drones at various frontiers, 450 of which were on approach to
00:02:09Moscow. At the same time, Ukrainian President Volodymyr
00:02:12Zelenskyy stated that last night, Ukrainian long-range
00:02:16weapons worked very effectively in the Moscow region,
00:02:19hitting one of the key enterprises of the Russian oil
00:02:22industry and a logistics facility of Russian troops. According
00:02:26to him, during the operation, FP-1,
00:02:30RZ100, Mich 2000, Polyanytsia,
00:02:33Vendetta, Liutyi, Bars, Flamingo, Sichen, and
00:02:36Pelikan were used, and the SBU, unmanned systems forces, SSO, Hur and the foreign
00:02:40intelligence
00:02:42service were involved in the strikes.
00:02:46The partisan movement Atezh announced damage to a railway switch
00:02:49in Russian Taganrog, Rostov Oblast. According
00:02:53to the partisans, their agents disabled an important element
00:02:57of the railway infrastructure, on which the movement of trains in this
00:03:01section depends. ATSH claims that the damage may
00:03:04complicate the movement of military echelons towards the occupied
00:03:07territories of Ukraine. Taganrog is an important railway
00:03:11hub for moving cargo to the Azov Sea region. Military
00:03:15equipment, fuel, and other
00:03:18cargo can be transported through this area. Partisans
00:03:22claim that the sabotage may cause train delays and
00:03:25disrupted railway traffic schedules.
00:03:27Soldiers from the 100th Separate Mechanized. Khady appealed to us and you for
00:03:31help. Transport, equipment, and machinery are needed, without which
00:03:35it is difficult to perform combat tasks. Our goal is very
00:03:38ambitious - 3.5 million UAH. This amount is large, but
00:03:42the needs at the front do not decrease, so, if you have
00:03:45the opportunity, join with a hryvnia. Everything that can be purchased
00:03:49thanks to this collection will work for our
00:03:52victory.
00:03:56Naftogaz signed a memorandum with Hungarian company MOL on the
00:03:59construction of facilities for storing petroleum products in
00:04:03Hungary, as announced by acting head of the board
00:04:06of Naftogaz Serhiy Fedorenko. The facilities
00:04:09are planned to be located near the Ukrainian-Hungarian border
00:04:12for Ukraine's needs. According to Fedorenko, the creation of
00:04:16additional storage facilities outside the zone of Russian shelling
00:04:20should increase the stability of the fuel market and the reliability
00:04:23of supply. The agreement was reached during the Carpathian
00:04:26Economic Forum within the framework of the Carpathian Eight Summit.
00:04:33Support for Ukraine is a state interest of Poland,
00:04:37stated the country's Minister of Defense Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz. According to
00:04:40him, Ukrainian air defense allows intercepting Russian missiles and
00:04:44drones before they reach the EU border. He
00:04:48emphasized that without sufficient air defense systems and
00:04:51ammunition, a significant part of Russian air targets may
00:04:54reach Poland. This statement was made after a Russian
00:04:58attack drone fell in Volyn region, approximately 4
00:05:01km from the Polish border. Kosiniak-Kamysz
00:05:05also reported that Poland is intensifying the activity of its air
00:05:08forces amid Russian
00:05:09provocations.
00:05:15You see what is happening: missiles fall, drones fall
00:05:19a kilometer from the Polish border, if
00:05:22Ukraine does not have air defense systems,
00:05:26if it does not have ammunition to shoot down these drones,
00:05:29most of them will fly through Ukraine and reach
00:05:32Poland. Do you want this? Continue to bully
00:05:36Ukrainians, do it so that we can no longer
00:05:39talk normally to each other, or Ukrainians.
00:05:52We should not lose sight of our state interest,
00:05:56which lies in supporting Ukraine, which is conducting
00:06:00military operations so that missiles are intercepted there and do not
00:06:03reach Poland.
00:06:06Before the full-scale war, he worked at Espreso, loved
00:06:10his job and cared not only about his family, but also about his
00:06:13employees. Mykola Kudyirko joined the army from
00:06:16the first days of the full-scale war, defended Kyiv region
00:06:19and went missing during a combat mission in the Kursk
00:06:22direction. For almost two years, relatives, friends and comrades waited for
00:06:26news and hoped that the defender was alive. Recently, the man
00:06:30was laid to rest in Kyiv, where Mykola Kudyirko
00:06:33remained in the memory of those who knew him personally. In our
00:06:37story.
00:06:41State flag of Ukraine.
00:06:53In Kyiv, Ukrainian defender and
00:06:57former employee of Espreso TV channel Mykola
00:07:00Kudyirko was laid to rest. He went missing on December
00:07:037, 2024, during a combat
00:07:07mission in the Kursk direction. After almost two years of uncertainty
00:07:11and waiting, he returned home on
00:07:14a shield. From the first day, he was always there, never, as they say,
00:07:17gave up, and in principle, he even joined the service
00:07:21officially as a volunteer, went to the military enlistment office himself, signed
00:07:24a contract, and in the Kursk direction, unfortunately, it
00:07:28happened that during the
00:07:30most brutal battles, Mykola then went missing. Everyone
00:07:33waited, hoped, but unfortunately, today we see that
00:07:37our Mykola has returned home. Mykola joined the territorial
00:07:40defense forces in the first days of the full-scale war,
00:07:44participated in the liberation of the occupied territories
00:07:47of Kyiv region, and later served in the 41st separate
00:07:50mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Unfortunately,
00:07:54it happened that first his son
00:07:57was called to the army. He
00:08:00always, he just adored his family, his daughter, for
00:08:04him she was, as my mother says, my little flower.
00:08:07And he could not just stand
00:08:09aside, he also went to... For
00:08:13colleagues from Espreso, he remained a person you could
00:08:17rely on. At the beginning of the Great War, he helped
00:08:20evacuate technical equipment from the Kyiv studio
00:08:23of the TV channel and take out relatives of his
00:08:26employees. In 2022, when he
00:08:29remained, remained in Kyiv, we were forced to
00:08:32leave to start broadcasting in
00:08:34Lviv. He called me several times, and about
00:08:38caring, he said: "Don't worry, I purposely go to your".
00:08:55and constant shelling, the person still thought and cared. Colleagues recall that caring for others was usual for Mykola
00:08:58even in the most difficult times. He
00:09:01was always a true comrade, as he said when
00:09:04he was alive and working, "my brother," he called everyone "brothers."
00:09:08He was a leader among... The hero
00:09:36was buried at Berkovetske cemetery. Mykola
00:09:39is survived by his mother, wife, daughter and son, and... although Mykola
00:09:43is no longer with us, his memory will remain with those who knew
00:09:46him personally, his relatives, comrades, and colleagues. For
00:09:50them, he will forever remain a person who cared for
00:09:53others and defended Ukraine until his last
00:09:56breath.
00:09:59Eternal memory to Mykola and all who died defending
00:10:02Ukraine from Russian aggression. This is all the information
00:10:06we have now. My colleagues Kateryna Nekrecha and Serhiy
00:10:09Rudenko will continue. Stay with Espreso.
00:10:28Events that change the world, the main results of the day live
00:10:31on Espreso. My name is Vasyl Zyma and we are starting
00:10:35our information studio. Politics with Yuriy
00:10:38Fizar, analytics from Serhiy Zgurts, economics with Oleksandr
00:10:42Morshchivka, news with Khrystyna Yatskiv, culture from Lena
00:10:46Chechenina and weather forecast from Natalka Didenko. A lot of
00:10:49interesting information, a rich broadcast awaits you,
00:10:53Ukrainian Focus Evening. Every weekday on
00:10:56Espreso. We are raising funds for a Rep and two
00:10:59engines for medic-evac military personnel of the special
00:11:02operations forces who are defending our country in the eastern
00:11:06direction. The enemy disabled vehicles that
00:11:09are used to evacuate the wounded from the front
00:11:13lines. Therefore, we ask for help with fundraising.
00:11:16Without our help, our paramedic girls will not
00:11:20cope. Let's help save the lives of our wounded
00:11:23defenders together.
00:11:47So, now the main thing, we continue our broadcast, Kateryna
00:11:51Nekrecha, Serhiy Rudenko are working for you in this studio, and today,
00:11:55September 20, we will talk, among
00:11:58other things, about the Ukrainian budget, what are the problems,
00:12:02questions already this year, and what are the plans for
00:12:05next year, 2027. This year's defense budget is lacking
00:12:0927 billion dollars, in
00:12:122027, 52.6 billion
00:12:15dollars of support will be needed,
00:12:19as stated by Finance Minister Marchenko. Part of
00:12:22this amount has already been found,
00:12:25but there is still a shortfall, so, where to get this
00:12:29money, we will talk further with our guest, she is a People's
00:12:33Deputy of Ukraine, a member of the Committee on National Security, Defense and
00:12:36Intelligence, Iryna Friz. Ms. Ira,
00:12:39welcome to Espreso. Good
00:12:42day, greetings to you. Good day, Ms. Iryna. Please explain
00:12:46how the government intends to cover the expenses
00:12:50necessary for defense due to this
00:12:54deficit. Because Koretsky has been talking for
00:12:58the past few weeks, or even for
00:13:01the past week, about a catastrophic financial
00:13:05situation. Why did this happen and why are there
00:13:09problems with financing
00:13:10defense?
00:13:13Well, let's start from the very beginning, because
00:13:16when the budget for 2026 was approved, you
00:13:20remember, we repeatedly said that the budget
00:13:23of the Ministry of Defense is... underfunded, because it
00:13:27was approved even below those indicators
00:13:31that were for 2025, and this
00:13:35applies not only to the budget of the Ministry of Defense, it
00:13:38applies to all subjects of the defense
00:13:41forces, which in 2025
00:13:43were significantly less funded in 2026,
00:13:47than in 2025,
00:13:51therefore, we need to start with the fact that the budget was
00:13:55inadequate from the very beginning to the needs that the General
00:13:58Staff spoke about, and
00:14:01then we simply trace, for example,
00:14:04new contracts from the former minister Fedorov, which
00:14:08according to various calculations,
00:14:11require an additional approximately 100 billion
00:14:14UAH in the state budget, which were not included
00:14:18from the very beginning, this is in addition to the existing deficit, we
00:14:21add even then we face
00:14:25what war actually dictates, and war
00:14:28dictates the use of completely different means,
00:14:31its conduct and accordingly an increase in budget
00:14:35allocations for those types of
00:14:38weapons that have proven their effectiveness and
00:14:42allow our military
00:14:46to professionally perform combat missions to
00:14:49repel aggression, so it's a complex of problems and
00:14:52it begins with the fact that the budget... of 2026
00:14:56directly for the Ministry of Defense was
00:14:59unsatisfactory, that is, it did not even cover
00:15:0250%
00:15:04of the need that was stated in the
00:15:07letter from the Ministry of Defense during the budget review,
00:15:11they were counting on money from partners, first of all,
00:15:14they were counting on money from partners to come in and thus
00:15:17cover the hole in the budget that
00:15:21was emerging already at the end of the first quarter.
00:15:252026, but we see that money from our partners does not
00:15:29come in those amounts and,
00:15:32let's say, in those terms
00:15:35that would be needed. for us, and here we
00:15:39are talking about the effective use of the
00:15:42budget we have, that is, the quality
00:15:46of application regarding the financing of those
00:15:49items that are priorities in a country at war, from
00:15:53my point of view, it is a crime
00:15:56to use such hard-earned
00:15:59money for the budget, from
00:16:02taxes on all kinds of PR
00:16:06campaigns of the government, these are
00:16:10"Yabaki" (a slang term for public works or projects used for political gain), and all
00:16:12this populist nonsense that
00:16:15drains money from the state budget instead of covering
00:16:19the primary needs of our
00:16:22defense forces, which is the monetary support for our military
00:16:25and the minimal provision of what
00:16:29Ukraine can produce and purchase
00:16:33directly from its manufacturers, so it's a
00:16:36complex of problems. It was obvious back
00:16:40in early 2026, and now it has simply
00:16:43taken on quite threatening
00:16:47features from my point of view, and I
00:16:50am confident that first of all, everyone at all
00:16:53levels, both government officials, and
00:16:57the president, first of all, and including
00:17:00deputies, must contribute to ensuring
00:17:02that
00:17:05our relations with our partners
00:17:09prove the need
00:17:11for additional funding for Ukraine already this year, possibly even at the expense
00:17:15of money allocated
00:17:19by our partners for our country in 2027.
00:17:22Ms. Iryna, please tell me,
00:17:26what you are talking about, can
00:17:29it be corrected over the next,
00:17:32it can be corrected over the next few months, I mean.
00:17:36budget items, reducing
00:17:40those expenses that can be reduced, reallocating
00:17:43money to reduce this defense budget
00:17:47deficit, I mean, there is a single
00:17:50telethon that is still financed from
00:17:54the state budget this year, and is included for next
00:17:57year, maybe it is from this money that we need to take those
00:18:01resources that are so lacking for defense and for our entire
00:18:05defense complex and the Defense Forces
00:18:08of Ukraine? You know, you correctly named those
00:18:12expenditure items that largely
00:18:15need to be suspended for
00:18:18funding, because first of all, we must
00:18:21provide salaries to our military and
00:18:24servicemen, considering this, should
00:18:28the government introduce changes,
00:18:31they certainly should, and the sooner they prepare and introduce them,
00:18:34the more
00:18:37opportunities there will be not to allow, let's say, a gap
00:18:40in payments, and this, in my opinion, should be
00:18:44our number one priority today, therefore,
00:18:47the government and the prime minister, who has already stated
00:18:50that he found about 70 billion across various
00:18:54items, need to focus not only on these
00:18:5770, but I think they can also increase them, in particular, the proposals
00:19:01of European Solidarity state that more than 100
00:19:04billion can be found, even...
00:19:09in the current state, current budget, in order to reallocate
00:19:12them to provide for the defense forces,
00:19:15therefore, in this case, the government must focus
00:19:19on the rapid preparation of these documents, these
00:19:22changes, submit them to parliament, and
00:19:26parliament, I am sure, will be ready to consider
00:19:30them in a sufficiently short time, despite
00:19:33quite, possibly unpopular
00:19:36steps, which will have to be taken in order to
00:19:40close this gap in
00:19:44financing specifically for the defense forces, because
00:19:46we cannot afford such
00:19:49a luxury to spend, well,
00:19:53that is, we largely should not afford it, but the government allows
00:19:57itself such a luxury, to spend absolutely wastefully
00:20:00their money, I mean on those
00:20:03articles that are
00:20:07not only not priorities, but are not even in the second
00:20:10priority of our state, everything except defense capability now must
00:20:14recede into the background. Ms. Iro, when you talk about
00:20:18unpopular steps, what do you mean by that?
00:20:22I don't want to announce
00:20:24them now, but I think that some
00:20:27articles, under which funding is currently
00:20:31taking place, except for, I mean, social
00:20:34expenditures, I think they will be preserved. Nevertheless, the government
00:20:38will be forced to reduce
00:20:41funding for them until the end of the year, but what exactly they
00:20:45will choose, which specific articles, let's wait, we will not jump
00:20:49ahead.
00:20:52of the horse and we will comment on
00:20:55specific changes that they will introduce and whether
00:20:58they will have the courage and wisdom to introduce them
00:21:02in full to provide our
00:21:06army with
00:21:09minimums, I consider them minimums,
00:21:13minimal provisions, because if we are already talking about
00:21:16weapons, then in this case, we have to turn to
00:21:20our partners again, and to those programs through which we
00:21:23purchase the weapons that we do not produce ourselves, and also
00:21:27to address, in general, you know,
00:21:31a change in the financial model is needed,
00:21:33in particular regarding the provision of defense forces,
00:21:37that is, the money that is in our budget should be
00:21:41maximized to meet minimal needs, and this is the financial
00:21:44support for our military and
00:21:48minimal needs. defense forces, everything we can
00:21:51ask from our partners, and what dialogue we need
00:21:55to establish, is that not,
00:21:58buy directly from them
00:22:01the weapons that we are capable of producing ourselves,
00:22:04but invest, or direct the money of our
00:22:08European partners into scaling up and expanding
00:22:11those types
00:22:14of weapons that we produce ourselves, this will give us
00:22:17the opportunity and save. well practically
00:22:21financial resources directly in
00:22:25the state, and most importantly - to reduce time, yes, that is
00:22:28logistics will be much faster than
00:22:32when we buy or when we expect this or
00:22:35that weapon from partners, and besides,
00:22:39under international programs, another thing,
00:22:42we must maximally speed up the moments
00:22:46of supplying us with what we do not produce, that is...
00:22:50partners' money into investing in our
00:22:54production, and at the same time, through such
00:22:57programs as Purl, yes, international ones, which we
00:23:01use to purchase what
00:23:04will allow us to hold the sky, yes, these are missiles for
00:23:07air defense, these are means of air attack, these are
00:23:11artillery shells, that is, everything that we do not produce ourselves and
00:23:14are not capable of producing in the near future, we must maximally
00:23:18purchase, everything else... that we are capable of scaling up in order to
00:23:22ensure the effectiveness
00:23:25of our army's work, we must address
00:23:29our partners regarding their
00:23:33investment in our defense industry, because we react much
00:23:37faster and much more operationally to changes
00:23:40in the means and methods of
00:23:44warfare, and therefore we can much faster
00:23:47offer innovative solutions, and which are already proving
00:23:51effective because we actually use
00:23:55and test them immediately and apply them in
00:23:58continuous conditions, yes, that is,
00:24:02non-stop, there is an innovative solution, there is a product,
00:24:06there is, there is a test and there
00:24:08is a need to scale it up in order to supply it immediately to
00:24:12the troops. Ms. Iryna, a very short question,
00:24:16I hope for an equally short answer from you.
00:24:20Zelenskyy said that the Verkhovna Rada must adopt seven
00:24:23draft laws or laws that our
00:24:26Western partners demand, and in order for
00:24:29full funding for Ukraine to resume. What
00:24:33are the prospects for adopting these draft laws? We know that in the first reading,
00:24:37the law that
00:24:40increases taxes on international
00:24:43parcels, parcels that come from abroad, passed.
00:24:47Is there a prospect that these laws will be adopted
00:24:50quickly and as our Western
00:24:53partners ask for them? Well, you know,
00:24:57before talking about the adoption of these unpopular laws, it should
00:25:00be noted that the government, including at the presidential
00:25:04level, failed in the negotiation track with our
00:25:07partners, was unable to prove the necessity
00:25:10of postponing certain unpopular
00:25:13steps, and now parliament is virtually put,
00:25:17you know, before an
00:25:20essential, I would say, blackmail attempt, trying
00:25:23to make parliament the scapegoat for unpopular
00:25:26decisions. The thing is, a fish rots
00:25:30from the head down, and in this context, the government must honestly
00:25:33admit that they failed the international negotiation track.
00:25:37Now, moving on to these, so to speak,
00:25:40unpopular laws, regarding parcels, you know that the demand of European
00:25:43Solidarity for parcels for
00:25:46servicemen, or those that have military purpose,
00:25:50should not have such taxation, was favorably
00:25:53received, and we will continue to insist on it. As
00:25:56for their consideration, there are
00:25:59three weeks ahead, in fact. when the Verkhovna
00:26:03Rada will not be working, if during this time, and
00:26:06there were, it seems, two weeks given
00:26:09for introducing amendments and consideration by
00:26:12the relevant committee, if the relevant committees are able to prepare
00:26:16the laws for consideration in parliament, then believe
00:26:19me, parliament is not going to postpone the issue of consideration and
00:26:22adoption of a decision, but parliament will stand quite firmly on
00:26:26the fact that a certain
00:26:28segment that these
00:26:33unpopular decisions affect
00:26:36must be protected, so
00:26:40we will continue to see how ready the draft laws are, and to what extent parliament will be ready to work.
00:26:43Thank you, thank you, Ms. Iryna, this was Iryna Friz, People's Deputy
00:26:47of Ukraine, member of the Committee on National Security, Defense and
00:26:51intelligence of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. Next, we will talk
00:26:55about, among other things, the attack on the Moscow
00:26:59region. The founder of the company joins the broadcast.
00:27:02The manufacturer of defense products first contact, a combatant, is
00:27:06Valeriy Borovyk, and we will further discuss
00:27:10the consequences of this attack of the defense
00:27:12forces, and so, Mr. Valeriy, we welcome you to
00:27:16Espreso, thank you for being with us this morning, this day, this evening already,
00:27:20good afternoon, glad to see you, let's
00:27:23start with the attack that took place by the defense
00:27:27forces, on the night of September
00:27:3020th in... on Moscow and the Moscow
00:27:34region, President Zelensky said that during the night
00:27:37attack, the defense forces used a number of
00:27:41Ukrainian long-range weapons, including Flamingo, Polianytsia,
00:27:44and Pelikan. What can you say about this attack that
00:27:48took place, because the Russians are talking about
00:27:521600 Ukrainian drones that flew to Moscow, which were
00:27:55allegedly shot down in the Moscow region,
00:27:59is this a systemic and already combined
00:28:02ballistic-drone war against Moscow,
00:28:06or is it still a test,
00:28:08or, let's say, an approbation of their
00:28:11air defense with new means of destruction, in particular
00:28:15Pelikan, about which, I hope, you will
00:28:18tell us a little more, because Flamingo and Polianytsia have already
00:28:21been discussed on air and generally in the mass media
00:28:25quite a lot.
00:28:28Well, I think that in your definition of this attack, you need to set aside the first word for some
00:28:31time. The word ballistic, that is,
00:28:34there was no ballistic component here, unfortunately, but I think we are getting
00:28:38there, and maybe even this year we will return this
00:28:41word in our next plot someday, for now this
00:28:45was a combined attack with different means, both drone and
00:28:49non-drone, and this shows
00:28:52that in the end we started
00:28:55to scale and apply those
00:28:58means that exhaust the enemy's air defense
00:29:01system. Of different types, that is,
00:29:05we have already seen such similar attacks
00:29:08on Kyiv from the enemy, when there is
00:29:11ballistic, then different types of Shaheds,
00:29:14missiles, all this can go in parallel,
00:29:17we are quite good at fighting cruise
00:29:21missiles, but it's more difficult for us with ballistic
00:29:24missiles, and sometimes almost impossible, because there are not enough
00:29:27means, here we showed that we can
00:29:31combine... to strike, indeed, many means were launched,
00:29:35not many reached, because the air defense system of the Moscow
00:29:39region, Jupiter, it is quite serious and
00:29:42echeloned, multi-layered, and
00:29:46therefore, but this is already, well, an indicator,
00:29:49this entire smoke, all these
00:29:52results that exist, fires, this shows
00:29:56that the war is increasingly breaking
00:29:59through to the heart.
00:30:02the heart of the enemy, and this is very important, now
00:30:06the defense forces really need to make
00:30:10their own analysis, which means passed, which did not
00:30:12pass, and what will be, there will be then
00:30:16additional reconnaissance, there will be then the detection of their
00:30:19anti-missile components, because air defense systems are moving, they are not
00:30:23standing still, but we will understand how the enemy fights,
00:30:26we already basically understand, but such massive
00:30:30attacks, they give more mass information for analysis,
00:30:34for adjusting subsequent attacks, and accordingly
00:30:38adjusting possibly technical characteristics. We will
00:30:41see, as they say, in the swamps. If we talk about
00:30:45this Pelican, what
00:30:48is known about it, what can be said about it?
00:30:51Well, look, all the characteristics are
00:30:54always larger,
00:30:58better than what we have...