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00:00:00to the heart
00:00:02of the enemy's heart, and this is very important, now
00:00:06the defense forces really need to conduct
00:00:10their own analysis, which means have passed, which have not
00:00:12passed, and what were, there will be
00:00:16intelligence, then the detection of their
00:00:19anti-missile components, because air defense systems are moving, they are not
00:00:23standing still, but we will understand how the enemy
00:00:26fights, we already understand in principle, but still... attacks
00:00:30they give more massive information for
00:00:33analysis, for adjusting subsequent attacks,
00:00:37well, and accordingly, adjusting perhaps technical characteristics,
00:00:40we will see, as they say in the swamps,
00:00:43if we talk about this
00:00:46pelican, what is known about it, what can be said about
00:00:50it? well, look, all the characteristics,
00:00:53they are always
00:00:56bigger, better than we in...
00:01:00well, it reaches Moscow, that is, it is clear that hundreds
00:01:03of kilograms, when you carry on a missile, similar to a pelican or
00:01:07other others like "Palyanitsa", other
00:01:10means there like "peklo" and so on, they are better
00:01:14than those drones, which are
00:01:18slower, yes and they are not
00:01:22so uh, they are not so fast
00:01:26and they are not so, well, they don't reach the target
00:01:29quickly. so that the enemy cannot
00:01:32react, this is on the one hand, on the other hand, it must be understood that the enemy's
00:01:36air defense systems, they are still from Soviet times, air defense systems
00:01:39are configured for similar means, yes, larger,
00:01:43but with jet engines, that is, for missiles, they
00:01:46reacted worse to earlier drones,
00:01:50slow-moving, as we called them, but now they
00:01:54react to such means as well, that is, they are more
00:01:57prepared than Ukraine for...
00:02:00such attacks, because they themselves
00:02:03produce these means, sometimes with Western components, and there are those
00:02:07that are produced and there are their
00:02:10products that are produced without
00:02:13critical components, so these things
00:02:17similar, let's say to small, cheaper missiles,
00:02:21need to be developed more and more, of different types, not
00:02:25focusing on one type, and they
00:02:28must be with different. type of guidance, with different,
00:02:32perhaps inertial systems, which will exhaust the
00:02:35enemy. So far, we see
00:02:39that Ukrainian air defense, and Ukrainians in general, are very
00:02:43much getting and exhausting jet drones flying at
00:02:46huge speeds from Russia, at
00:02:50Ukrainian cities, at civilian infrastructure, at
00:02:53warehouses, at shopping centers, and
00:02:56we see that the enemy is quite actively, and... successfully
00:03:00uses these jet drones. During the day
00:03:03on September 19, Zelensky spoke
00:03:07about the damage or downing of this
00:03:10jet drone, which was already used by
00:03:14an interceptor, a drone interceptor, by the Security
00:03:16Service of Ukraine, in particular military counterintelligence
00:03:20of the SBU. Twice during the day, a Russian
00:03:24Geran 5 jet drone was hit. In your
00:03:27opinion, these interceptors, which Ukraine... is now
00:03:30testing for the protection
00:03:33of the Ukrainian sky from jet drones,
00:03:36how quickly can the market be saturated
00:03:40with them, the military market, the market of the Ukrainian defense forces,
00:03:44so that they can shoot down these, uh, I wanted
00:03:48to say, damned jet drones, but
00:03:51obviously they do look like that, well, at least
00:03:54for us Ukrainians, this is a powerful
00:03:58weapon that flies from the side.
00:04:00Russian Federation, I understand that it is not as expensive
00:04:04as their missiles with which they
00:04:07shell Ukrainian territory?
00:04:11Well, of course, that's the point of developing such jet drones, there are
00:04:15pre-drones not missiles, which are
00:04:19cheaper than typical missiles like Khasto-1
00:04:22or others, yes, so development will continue,
00:04:26how much our anti, anti...
00:04:31yes, interceptors, which will work
00:04:34against missiles like these in the form of
00:04:37drones, yes, how effective they will be depends on
00:04:41what kind of guidance system they will have, that is, manually, it's already, well, very
00:04:45difficult, it's a bingo if the pilot guides it manually, and it's not
00:04:48the way out when he will visually find this
00:04:52drone and attack, because the speed is very high, and it's
00:04:55practically impossible, so if the guidance
00:04:59system is good
00:05:01there the homing head will work,
00:05:05will work well, then then it
00:05:08can be scaled, but it should not be a panacea, that is...
00:05:12against such drones it is better to fight with cheap
00:05:16missiles with good guidance systems again, and
00:05:20teams are working on this which
00:05:23need to make these special guidance
00:05:27heads with those missiles that are already in
00:05:31warehouses, and I said this perhaps on your air,
00:05:34that there are missiles in warehouses that were used
00:05:37for other purposes, for helicopters, they were then
00:05:41adapted for... ground launch, but the detection
00:05:44system does not allow today to scale their production for
00:05:48accurate destruction of jet drones and missiles as
00:05:52well, so this is the path
00:05:55which I think is better and
00:05:58more effective, will lead to the neutralization of this kind,
00:06:02better neutralization of this kind of strike
00:06:05strike weapons of the enemy, but for this, some
00:06:09time is needed, about half a year, perhaps, to make
00:06:13this happen. As for interceptor drones, which
00:06:16the SBU and the president spoke about, we need to work
00:06:20well on this, if they prove themselves and are inexpensive, then
00:06:23this is also a cool one of the pieces of the
00:06:27comprehensive solution. Mr. Valeriy, if we talk about
00:06:31joint air defense with Europe, with those
00:06:34challenges that we understand, our
00:06:37neighbors, our partners
00:06:40face due to Russia, Russian aggression. Is
00:06:43this realistic, should we
00:06:46expect this next year, maybe even this year,
00:06:57is progressing at a normal pace,
00:07:00not, let's say, in turbo mode, unfortunately,
00:07:04because there is bureaucracy,
00:07:07European, first of all,
00:07:10bureaucracy. within the companies themselves,
00:07:14which have all their legal department, lawyers
00:07:18to agree on the component of transfer, how the transfer
00:07:22of technologies takes place, how it participates there, well, a lot of their own questions, which
00:07:26you may have seen regarding the transfer of a license for
00:07:29the production of Patriot, which did not happen and most likely may not
00:07:32happen, because there are companies
00:07:35that respond to the call of politicians and even to
00:07:38the decision or words of the president: listen, well...
00:07:42we are not ready to transfer the homing head, as Boeing said, and
00:07:45that's it. Returning to Freya, there are no
00:07:48such, who do not want to, but there are their
00:07:51own time for making
00:07:55bureaucratic, legal decisions, technological
00:07:58decisions, to already unite the mind, we understand which
00:08:02companies will be involved,
00:08:05well, I even know a little in detail, I know this from the horse's
00:08:09mouth from these companies and our company, which...
00:08:13leading this project, but
00:08:16time must pass, time must pass for
00:08:19technological testing, for
00:08:21such bureaucratic things and so on, so
00:08:25we will hope for the anti-ballistic
00:08:28air defense component,
00:08:32middle, end of next year, I think, not
00:08:35earlier, this is reality, thank you, Mr. Valeriy, for
00:08:39the conversation and for joining us, this was Valeriy Borovyk, founder of the company.
00:08:42defense product manufacturer First Contact,
00:08:45combat veteran. Next, we will
00:08:48talk about such political intentions and
00:08:51prospects of several important issues, this is
00:08:55the energy truce, which Donald Trump was the first
00:08:58to talk about, if I'm not mistaken, in fact, that everything has already been agreed upon, and then
00:09:02Kyiv and Moscow said, no, it seems it's not
00:09:05agreed upon, about the so- called hellish sanctions, whether
00:09:09Trump will be ready to apply
00:09:13them against countries that cooperate with Russia,
00:09:16help Russia circumvent sanctions, and we will also
00:09:19talk about the likely meeting between Zelensky and Trump, what
00:09:23they will talk about, our next guest will help us
00:09:25understand this, this is Oleksiy Haran, professor of political science
00:09:29of Kyiv-Mohyla Academy, scientific adviser of the Democratic
00:09:44proposal or idea, which Donald Trump again put forward,
00:09:47regarding an energy truce between
00:09:50Ukraine and the Russian Federation, the
00:09:54Kremlin did not give a positive answer that they
00:09:57agree to this and even talk about
00:10:00a possible expansion of this energy
00:10:03truce to yet another naval
00:10:07truce, meaning solving all the issues
00:10:10that the Russians want to solve
00:10:13within this truce, Zelensky said
00:10:16that Ukraine is ready for such an energy
00:10:20truce, is a new diplomatic framework
00:10:23being formed for... future negotiations, because it is absolutely
00:10:26obvious that these must be tripartite negotiations, where
00:10:30there are two participants in the war, one aggressor,
00:10:34one participant is defending, and
00:10:37well, not a mediator, well, perhaps Trump can be called
00:10:41a mediator, because it
00:10:43is not clear whether there is any
00:10:47subject for any conversation, or whether
00:10:50it is time to talk about this
00:10:54energy truce, given the aggressive rhetoric
00:10:57of the Kremlin regarding the future land to
00:11:00Ukraine? We need to talk, because
00:11:03we see
00:11:06that Trump is trying to blame Ukraine
00:11:09for the lack of fuel in the world market,
00:11:12it turns out that Ukraine is to blame, this is not Trump's
00:11:16adventure in Iran, this is Ukraine,
00:11:19and well, we understand the absurdity of this, but nevertheless,
00:11:22we must show that yes. We are ready for negotiations and we
00:11:26are really ready for them, we need to
00:11:29prepare, we understand how important it is for us
00:11:32that the winter passes
00:11:35without attacks on Ukrainian
00:11:38energy, however, let's be honest, if
00:11:41we, if there is an energy truce,
00:11:44then well, we lose great leverage over
00:11:48Russia, I think that this is now perhaps our biggest
00:11:51trump card, that we affect...
00:11:55oil refineries, block
00:11:58oil exports from Russia, this is our very important
00:12:01trump card, if there is an energy truce, we will lose
00:12:04it, but at the same time, well, there will be no attacks
00:12:08on our territory, on our
00:12:11energy, so Ukraine rightly says that we
00:12:14are ready for this, but whether Putin is ready for this, well, so far
00:12:18it doesn't look like it, we see that Putin refuses,
00:12:22moreover, you are right, who... says, let's lift
00:12:26the sanctions, Lavrov said, let's lift the sanctions against
00:12:29our fleet, and
00:12:33Peskov, he generally says, well, let's return to all our
00:12:37previous demands, that there should be no NATO, that there should be no
00:12:40protection of Russians Russian-speakers in Ukraine
00:12:43from militarization, Nazification, well, this typical
00:12:47Russian nonsense, that is, so far we do not
00:12:51see such readiness from Putin, whether it can
00:12:54appear. it can appear if there is
00:12:57increased pressure on Putin, will Trump do
00:13:00it? Question mark? And in
00:13:03this regard, well, honestly speaking, I don't really
00:13:06understand, well, yes, tripartite negotiations are needed, of course, it's better
00:13:10to talk to Russia when someone
00:13:13else is present at the negotiating table, at least they will
00:13:16record what Russia demands from us, and what
00:13:20we propose, that is, there will be some fixation, yes, so that later
00:13:24the Russians... do not tell tales, but honestly
00:13:27speaking, well, at the moment I don't see
00:13:31such readiness from Trump, for us it's not just that we had
00:13:34a meeting, right, but for us it's necessary that Putin
00:13:38be, there be serious
00:13:41pressure, and in this regard, well, I have
00:13:45doubts about Trump's position, moreover, I even sometimes
00:13:48fear the trilateral
00:13:51format, because I think, what if Trump suddenly takes...
00:13:55Putin's position on some issues, well, we cannot predict
00:13:59Trump's actions, right, therefore, well, perhaps
00:14:02my fears are unfounded, I don't know much from
00:14:06insider information from those who negotiate, but
00:14:10well, in general, what we see, well, we have
00:14:13doubts whether Trump will indeed,
00:14:15I'm not talking about Ukrainian, but
00:14:19at least, well, a position favorable
00:14:22to Ukraine, so honestly, I think about the statements
00:14:25of our president that a tripartite meeting is needed
00:14:29to ensure a breakthrough, a face-to-face
00:14:32meeting, so that Putin is there, well,
00:14:35honestly, I don't believe in it,
00:14:39well, they will meet, so what, and Putin will suddenly
00:14:42thaw,
00:14:44or our president will charm him, Putin will say: yes, I'm not
00:14:47right, we need to, so, achieve peace, well,
00:14:51it's hard to believe, another chance, this is
00:14:54pressure. This is pressure on Putin, if Trump pressures
00:14:57Putin, if we carry
00:14:59out our
00:15:03long-range sanctions, if Europe connects here and
00:15:07helps, then we can count on something, but just like that
00:15:10we met with Putin, so what? Well, we don't believe
00:15:14in charm, because we've already seen, right, what we've seen
00:15:17are meetings where Volodymyr Zelensky met with Putin,
00:15:21it was a long time ago, but nevertheless, then he couldn't charm him...
00:15:26Well, if we talk about, thank God, thank God that then Zelensky did not
00:15:29succumb to Putin's charms, well, in his arms
00:15:32and did not go for compromises, that is, for compromises on
00:15:36Russian terms. That is, then, thank God,
00:15:39Zelensky did not do this, and in fact, excuse me,
00:15:43after that Putin was disappointed in Zelensky and realized
00:15:47that this was Poroshenko's line, that
00:15:50this was not an anti-Ukrainian line at least, so
00:15:54our colleague Vitaliy Portnikov repeatedly, it seems, repeats that it was precisely
00:15:57after this meeting that Putin realized that he needed
00:16:01to prepare for war, well, such a version also exists, but
00:16:04Europe, as you said, about Europe, Europe... is also diverse in
00:16:08its vision of whether to support Ukraine or not, or
00:16:11how to support it? Here is the Prime Minister of Slovakia, Robert Fico, who stated that
00:16:15the West for more than four years vainly fueled
00:16:18the fire of Russia's war against Ukraine, and
00:16:22thereby allegedly provokes a conflict between Russia and NATO.
00:16:25We can now hear his direct speech. Is it
00:16:29necessary? The failure of the strategy to destroy Russia
00:16:32through the war in Ukraine forces many Western
00:16:35politicians to conclude.
00:16:46to provoke a conflict between NATO and Russia. Someone must have
00:16:50gone mad, because Russia cannot be defeated
00:16:53in a conventional war, only with nuclear
00:16:57weapons.
00:16:59Well, we heard, in principle, we have already heard such a version, such a theory,
00:17:03but still, we see that Europe is once again. another time. confirmation
00:17:06is heterogeneous, why
00:17:09does such a thesis arise again, does it
00:17:13affect something, or not? Well, what
00:17:16did you expect from Fico, that he would suddenly, suddenly see the light?
00:17:20Thank God that in this video message he said
00:17:23that the war was unleashed by Russia,
00:17:26yes, this is what he said there, it was quite clear, then
00:17:29he said that Western countries, indeed
00:17:33they are trying to turn this into a conflict between Russia and NATO,
00:17:37which... is absurd, by the way, I would like to say that Mr.
00:17:40Fico poorly,
00:17:43poorly knows history, because Russia repeatedly
00:17:46shamefully lost, moreover, conventional wars,
00:17:50starting with the Crimean war, the war with
00:17:53Japan, and then, and finally the Soviet Union
00:17:57lost, lost the war in Afghanistan,
00:18:01so here is a vivid example of when the nuclear Soviet Union
00:18:04lost, lost that war.
00:18:07Therefore, well, what can
00:18:10I tell you, Fico is pushing his
00:18:12line, well, thank God that he, let's say, did not
00:18:16block such recent decisions, in particular of the European
00:18:20Union on aid to us, well, we remember, 90 billion,
00:18:23euros for two years, other
00:18:27aid, thank God that he doesn't block that,
00:18:30next, well, this is typical rhetoric in
00:18:34the style, Fico's style, yes, it is important for us that he
00:18:37does not block other joint decisions
00:18:41of the European Union. Polish Minister of Defense
00:18:44Władysław Kosiniak Kamysz during heated
00:18:47debates in the Sejm stated that the national
00:18:51interest of Ukraine lies in supporting Ukraine, as this allows
00:18:54intercepting Russian missiles and drones before
00:18:58they cross the border of the European Union. Let's listen to what the
00:19:01Polish Minister of Defense
00:19:02said.
00:19:07drones are falling one kilometer from the Polish border,
00:19:11if Ukraine does not have air defense
00:19:14systems, if it does not have ammunition to shoot down these
00:19:18drones, most of them will fly through Ukraine and
00:19:21reach Poland, do you want this, continue
00:19:24to torment Ukrainians, do this so that we can
00:19:28no longer talk normally with each other, have Ukrainians
00:19:32settled all issues, no, they have not settled historical
00:19:35issues, but we also cannot lose
00:19:38common sense in this populist race for percentages, we
00:19:42must not lose sight of our national
00:19:45interest, which lies in supporting Ukraine, which
00:19:49is conducting hostilities, so that missiles are intercepted
00:19:52there and do not reach Poland,
00:19:55the Polish Minister of Defense says the right words,
00:19:58draws the right conclusions about what will
00:20:02actually happen to the European Union if Ukraine does not have
00:20:05air defense means to shoot down
00:20:09Russian missiles and drones.
00:20:12At the same time, we saw how during the week European
00:20:16leaders discussed the topic, which
00:20:19Ursula von der Leyen brought up,
00:20:22she said that it is necessary to create
00:20:25a European, a European Security Council with
00:20:29Ukraine's participation. How much, Paxi, do you
00:20:32think Europeans are capable of mobilizing now and
00:20:36creating.
00:20:39with Ukraine's participation and a mini-security
00:20:43bloc that will allow them, even without the participation, or, let's say,
00:20:47with minimal participation of the United States of America.
00:20:50to protect both themselves and Ukraine?
00:20:53Let's go in order, well, first of all, I want to say
00:20:56that in Kyiv a missile threat
00:20:59has been announced, so I urge our
00:21:03viewers, listeners,
00:21:06to observe safety rules, even
00:21:09if for this it is necessary to sacrifice the opportunity
00:21:12to listen to Heranyanin on Espresso, but first of all, take care
00:21:16of your safety, so the second point, I...
00:21:20I just want to emphasize once again what the Minister of
00:21:23Poland said, I think this is extremely
00:21:27important, as you quoted,
00:21:30well, we heard how he said it, that is, he didn't just say that
00:21:33Ukraine needs help, but that the persecution
00:21:36of Ukrainians should stop, and I think this is very important
00:21:40for us to hear, because we are currently hearing that Poland is against us, everything
00:21:43is lost, the situation is very difficult, we have
00:21:47a crisis in relations with Poland, but we hear... sober statements
00:21:51from the Polish government as well, and therefore we just need to continue
00:21:54working on this regarding
00:21:57Ursula von der Leyen's statement
00:22:00and the European Security Council with Ukraine's
00:22:04participation, well, fine, let's work in this direction, we just don't
00:22:08have, you know, we shouldn't build
00:22:12too many rosy expectations
00:22:14around this either, yes, that this will happen, maybe it will happen,
00:22:18sometime there will be a minimum. What else is there, a mini, mini
00:22:22European security system, for now
00:22:24in Europe we have been hearing these
00:22:28talks since the mid- 50s, they failed
00:22:31to create an autonomous defense system
00:22:34outside NATO, it is obvious that sooner
00:22:38or later some opportunities
00:22:41for this are created, European expeditionary corps
00:22:44and so on are created, that is, it's good that
00:22:48work is being done in this direction
00:22:51and... will this be a full-fledged replacement
00:22:54for NATO now, well, I'm not sure, yes, for now,
00:22:57there is no such thing, we will see what the functions of this European
00:23:01Security Council will be, you understand, because in fact, the European
00:23:04Union also has a military component, so
00:23:08and theoretical, well, not even theoretical, but
00:23:11if
00:23:14a country joins the EU,
00:23:16it receives, well, as they say...
00:23:20security guarantees through the back door, through the back door, yes, because
00:23:23in this way it kind of gets a guarantee
00:23:27of support from European countries, most of which are part
00:23:30of NATO, but well, for now it's like that, yes,
00:23:34it has never been tested, it is quite amorphous,
00:23:38so we will see, we have not heard, we do not
00:23:41really hear what will be meant by the European
00:23:44Security Council, but at least
00:23:48what is said... about the fact that Ukraine needs
00:23:51to be connected to various aspects
00:23:54of the European defense system, this is correct, and in fact,
00:23:58we know, we constantly talk about it, that in fact we are already
00:24:01protecting, protecting Europe, and
00:24:05Europe, and NATO countries, as well. Thank
00:24:08you, Mr. Oleksiy, for joining us, for your analysis, for
00:24:12your opinion Oleksiy Haran, professor of political science
00:24:14of Kyiv-Mohyla Academy, scientific adviser of the Democratic
00:24:18Initiatives Foundation named after Ilko Kuchayev was our
00:24:22guest, we talked about the prospects of an energy
00:24:25truce, a possible, desired, I don't know,
00:24:28meeting between Zelensky and Vladimir Putin and about the mediation
00:24:32of the United States of America. Well, in the next block we
00:24:35will talk about pseudo-elections
00:24:38to the pseudo-State Duma of the Russian Federation, including in
00:24:42the occupied territories of Ukraine, well, and about
00:24:45the prospects of an informal,
00:24:49informal... competition for the position of Prosecutor General, the next Prosecutor
00:24:53General, so wait, in just a few minutes we will return to
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00:30:21Welcome to Espresso, news is on air, Oksana Vysochanska is in the studio and
00:30:24we are starting with the latest information. Russia
00:30:27previously attacked the warehouses of Ecomarket near Kyiv. There is a
00:30:31large-scale fire on the spot. We are waiting for details from official
00:30:34persons. Meanwhile, in the Sviatoshynskyi district of the capital, a civilian
00:30:38woman was injured as a result of the Russian Federation's attack.
00:30:41Medical workers are providing assistance to the injured - said Mayor Vitali
00:30:45Klitschko.
00:30:48Meanwhile, at Moscow airports, due to a massive drone
00:30:51attack, more than 400 flights were delayed and
00:30:55canceled. Most restrictions are at Sheremetyevo, where by
00:30:58noon they were defending themselves.
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