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00:00:00Kratal, Kratal - natural power
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00:00:21Welcome to Espresso, news is on air, in the studio Oksana Vysochynska. And we begin
00:00:25with the latest information. Russia
00:00:27has reportedly struck Eco-Market warehouses near Kyiv, there is a large-scale fire
00:00:31at the scene, we are awaiting details from officials.
00:00:34Meanwhile, in the Sviatoshynskyi district of the capital, a civilian woman
00:00:37was injured as a result of the Russian Federation's attack.
00:00:40Paramedics are providing assistance to the injured, said Mayor Vitaliy
00:00:43Klychko.
00:00:45Meanwhile,
00:00:48at Moscow airports, due to a massive drone attack,
00:00:51more than 400 flights were delayed and canceled.
00:00:55The most restrictions were at Sheremetyevo, where more than 30 aircraft
00:00:59were delayed until noon. Another
00:01:02240 were delayed for arrival and departure, some aircraft
00:01:06were redirected to Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Cheboksary, and
00:01:09St. Petersburg. At Vnukovo, 11 flights
00:01:12were canceled, and 129 were delayed. At
00:01:15Domodedovo, one flight was canceled and 27
00:01:18were delayed. At Zhukovsky airport, two flights were canceled and
00:01:22seven were delayed. The press services of Russian airports
00:01:25stated that flights are operating according to an adjusted
00:01:29schedule, and Vnukovo announced a gradual
00:01:32return to normal operations.
00:01:35Russian troops launched an airstrike on an evacuation point in
00:01:38Kramatorsk, Donetsk region, reported Yevhen Kaplin, head of the Proliska humanitarian mission.
00:01:42According to him, it was a direct
00:01:46hit. At the time of the attack, evacuated people
00:01:49and workers who were assisting with the evacuation were at the location.
00:01:53Information about possible deaths and injuries is still being
00:01:57clarified.
00:02:00The Third Army Corps liberated Shandroholove
00:02:03and Dyvrybolove and established full control over
00:02:07Drobysheve in Donetsk region, reported corps commander Andriy
00:02:10Biletsky, noting that Operation Vivaldi continues
00:02:14and is gaining momentum. According to him, during the first and second
00:02:18stages of the offensive, Ukrainian units regained
00:02:21control of 125 square kilometers of territory, of
00:02:25which 50 square kilometers were de-occupied.
00:02:28Biletsky also stated that during this period, the Russian army's losses
00:02:32amounted to about 3,000
00:02:34servicemen.
00:02:38Soldiers of the 100th Separate Mechanized Brigade have approached us for
00:02:42help. They need transport, equipment and machinery, without which it is difficult
00:02:46to perform combat missions. Our goal is ambitious - 3.5
00:02:50million UAH. This amount is large, but the needs at the front
00:02:53are not getting smaller. So, if you have such an opportunity, please
00:02:57contribute with hryvnia. Everything that can be purchased
00:03:00thanks to this collection will work for
00:03:03our victory.
00:03:07NATO is ready to respond to possible escalation and
00:03:11provocations by Russia on Europe's eastern flank, said
00:03:14Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, Chairman of the NATO Military Committee. According to him,
00:03:18NATO troops, armaments, and
00:03:22military structure are in a state of readiness, and the alliance continues to build up its
00:03:26capabilities. Dragone emphasized
00:03:29that NATO has developed defensive plans for
00:03:33various scenarios, from a local crisis to
00:03:36a large-scale armed conflict. He stressed that
00:03:39in the event of an attack, allies know the course of action to protect
00:03:42the alliance's territory. This statement came amid
00:03:46warnings from European countries about possible Russian provocations
00:03:50and hybrid
00:03:50attacks.
00:03:54Meanwhile, Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico stated
00:03:57that some Western politicians allegedly seek to provoke
00:04:01a direct conflict between NATO and Russia. According to him,
00:04:05Europe has come closer to a large-scale war than ever
00:04:08before. Fico claims that this situation arose after
00:04:11the failure of the West's strategy aimed at defeating Russia
00:04:15in the war against Ukraine. He called this a mortal
00:04:19danger and stated that some politicians in the alliance are trying
00:04:22to turn the war in Ukraine into a direct confrontation between NATO and
00:04:26Russia. The Slovak prime minister also once again emphasized
00:04:30that the conflict is not a war of Slovakia or NATO,
00:04:33while his statement came amid warnings from European
00:04:37leaders about the intensification of Russian hybrid
00:04:39attacks.
00:04:44The failure of the strategy to destroy Russia through the war in
00:04:47Ukraine forces many Western politicians to conclude
00:04:51that if this cannot be achieved with the help
00:04:54of the Ukrainian army and its full support, then everything must
00:04:58be done to...
00:05:12Iran presented the US with three conditions for resuming negotiations and ending
00:05:16the war in the Middle East. Tehran handed
00:05:19its proposals to Donald Trump through Qatari mediation. Among
00:05:23the demands are a ceasefire on all fronts, the unfreezing of Iranian
00:05:27assets, and the lifting of the naval blockade. According to the Secretary
00:05:30of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, Mohsen
00:05:33Rezaei, Qatar has already fulfilled its mediation
00:05:36mission. Now Tehran is awaiting an official response
00:05:40from the American president. Rezaei also noted that Iran
00:05:43is interested in ending the conflict between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis in
00:05:47Yemen.
00:05:53US President Donald Trump announced the creation of artificial intelligence
00:05:57forces and promised to announce their leader
00:06:00in the near future. According to him, the new structure will be formed on the model
00:06:04of the United States Space Force created in 2019.
00:06:08Trump stated that he will soon announce - quote:
00:06:11"The future" head of the AI Tsar
00:06:15and said that people with a high IQ can apply for the
00:06:19position. The American president called AI a new
00:06:22industrial revolution, comparing its significance to
00:06:26the advent of the internet. Trump also stated that in the future
00:06:30this industry could account for up to 25% of the US
00:06:34GDP. According to the US president,
00:06:36they are ahead of China in AI development and he
00:06:40intends to maintain this advantage.
00:06:45In Hungary, an unknown man poured wine on Prime Minister Péter
00:06:49Magyar during the grape harvest festival in the city of
00:06:52Szekszárd. The incident occurred on the evening of September 19, when
00:06:56the politician, on his way to Budapest, decided to visit a local fair.
00:06:59Magyar was talking to people near one of the buffets when a man
00:07:03approached him, took a sip from a glass, and poured the remaining
00:07:06drink towards the prime minister. The politician did not lose his composure and
00:07:10turned the situation into a joke. Magyar published a video of the incident
00:07:14on his social networks. According to Hungarian journalists, the attacker's glass
00:07:17could have contained ordinary wine or fröccs, which is
00:07:21a popular drink in Hungary made from wine and sparkling
00:07:24water.
00:07:27In the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, information about
00:07:3126-day vacations for deputies was denied. Despite the break in
00:07:34plenary sessions from September 17 to October 13,
00:07:38Parliament continues to work. People's deputies meet in
00:07:41committees, work in working groups and special commissions, and also process
00:07:45draft laws and amendments. The Parliament
00:07:48emphasizes that the work of committees, subcommittees, factions, and
00:07:51deputy groups does not
00:07:54stated that deputies are preparing for further consideration of legislative
00:07:58issues after the resumption of plenary
00:08:00sessions. The Prosecutor General's Office and
00:08:04the Bureau of Economic Security exposed a criminal organization
00:08:07that laundered funds through cryptocurrency. According to
00:08:11the investigation, about 500 million
00:08:14UAH passed through the conversion center every month. The total volume
00:08:18of financial transactions amounted to 23.5 billion
00:08:21UAH, and the preliminary estimated amount of tax evasion was about
00:08:243 billion. During 50 searches,
00:08:28law enforcement officers seized millions in cash.
00:08:31The participants of the scheme have already been
00:08:34notified of suspicion, and the Prosecutor General's Office stated
00:08:38that the details of the operation will be released
00:08:40tomorrow.
00:08:50Kharkiv publishing house Ranok is reprinting at its own expense
00:08:54250,000 textbooks destroyed by a Russian strike on a warehouse
00:08:57on August 1st. These are books for students of the fourth and
00:09:01ninth grades. In total, due to the strike, the publishing house lost
00:09:05about 8 million books, among which more than 600,000
00:09:08textbooks. Due to significant financial losses, Ranok
00:09:12temporarily suspends the printing of experimental and debut
00:09:15projects and focuses on bestsellers that sell
00:09:19quickly. At the same time, Bohdan Chief, who also lost hundreds
00:09:22of thousands of books due to Russian shelling, is reprinting
00:09:25top editions, and planned
00:09:28new releases will be published according to
00:09:32the previous plan.
00:09:38In Lviv, the first stage of the Lesya Ukrainka Theater's "Dimension of Theater" showcase is underway.
00:09:42Over four days, plays that the theater
00:09:46has created over many years are being shown. One of them is "Birds,"
00:09:49by director Dmytro Zakhozhenko. This ancient
00:09:52story about an extraordinary city received a new
00:09:55perspective through the eyes of society within the framework of modern realities.
00:09:59Our correspondent Yevheniya Tur found out how the play literally breaks
00:10:03the invisible curtain between actors and audience and involves
00:10:06viewers in the course of events. On stage,
00:10:09there are birds who decide
00:10:12to leave the human world and build their own
00:10:15city, but along with its inhabitants, old
00:10:19rules, habits, and contradictions return. Through this
00:10:22ancient story, based on Aristophanes,
00:10:26the director talks to the audience about modern
00:10:29problems, in particular raising the issue of
00:10:31ecology. One of the main such mainstream
00:10:35topics, at least two years ago,
00:10:38was ecology. And I thought, damn, why don't we
00:10:41look at ecology through the prism
00:10:44of war, or at war through the prism of ecology, what is
00:10:47changing, and a lot
00:10:50is changing. The play combines a fairytale story about
00:10:54birds story of a woman who
00:10:57lives in the occupied territory, her
00:11:00story is connected with the tragedy of the Kakhovka
00:11:03HPP. For actress Natalia Mazur, theater is
00:11:07an opportunity not only to perform on stage, but also to talk about
00:11:10what is happening with Ukrainians right
00:11:13now. It's the opposite, it's hard to play plays that don't
00:11:16raise issues that are relevant, I kind of understand
00:11:19that on the one hand we all talk about some kind of fatigue and
00:11:23exhaustion, but on the other hand... this is also our
00:11:26inadequate, but reality,
00:11:29which I don't know how we should correctly evaluate
00:11:32while being in it, but rather witness and share
00:11:35it. In four days, the audience will be presented with
00:11:39eight plays created over the last six
00:11:42years. The theater director noted that after
00:11:46the full-scale invasion, it was difficult to return to
00:11:49work, however, the team realized that society
00:11:53needs plays that can be applied to modern
00:11:56realities, in particular about the difficult ecological
00:11:59situation that developed in Ukraine against the backdrop of the war.
00:12:03But when we first opened the doors again to the audience and realized
00:12:06that this co-existence in one space, experiencing
00:12:10shared emotions, feeling each other's elbow. Another element
00:12:13of this play and globally of our current reality
00:12:17is the issue of ecology, because obviously, the war,
00:12:20military actions on the territory of Ukraine bring a lot of
00:12:24destructive ecological, sometimes irreversible
00:12:27ecological
00:12:29consequences. The ancient plot here talks about entirely
00:12:33modern things, war, ecology and responsibility for
00:12:37one's own actions, and most importantly reminds us that we can change the world
00:12:41around us only when we start
00:12:44changing it within ourselves. That's
00:12:47all the news for now, next up Kateryna Nekrecha and Serhiy Rudenko will be working, I
00:12:51bid you farewell, all the best, take care.
00:13:11Today Europe, Poland, Ukraine, found themselves at the center
00:13:15of geopolitical challenges. The Kremlin attacks Ukraine with drones and
00:13:18missiles, tanks, and Europe with fakes and diversions to sow
00:13:22fear and divide Europeans. We can say
00:13:25this is a decisive moment in our shared history, and our victory, our development,
00:13:29our survival depends on how we respond to it and how we comprehend it,
00:13:32and today Ukraine is the center of Europe,
00:13:36and together with our partners, among whom
00:13:39Poland holds a key place, we will restrain the Kremlin's invasion,
00:13:43we must say no to dictatorship, violence,
00:13:45authoritarianism, watch the "Center of Europe" program every Friday at
00:13:4913:10 on
00:13:51Espresso.
00:13:59We perform the most difficult tasks.
00:14:02The enemy will not understand where death came from. Special
00:14:06Operations Forces are always beyond the limit.
00:14:30Now, the main thing: Sunday, September 20, and with you
00:14:33this evening broadcast, our last live hour
00:14:36with Serhiy Rudenko, and we
00:14:39will continue to talk about
00:14:43how the Ukrainian state generally plans
00:14:45to react to such cases that
00:14:49happened with the Prosecutor General of Ukraine, who
00:14:52literally fled the country. Will there be some... legislative solution
00:14:56to this problem, such a systemic one? We will
00:14:59talk about pseudo-elections in Russia
00:15:03and in the occupied Ukrainian territories, so stay with
00:15:06us during this part of the broadcast, and also, if you are
00:15:10watching us on YouTube, on the Espresso channel,
00:15:13be sure to subscribe and be sure to write your
00:15:16comments, and we have our guest on the line, Oleksiy
00:15:20Koshel, political scientist, doctor of historical sciences, head of the Committee of Voters of Ukraine, Mr.
00:15:24Oleksiy. We greet you, thank you for being with us today,
00:15:27greetings, good day, good evening,
00:15:30let's start our conversation with the resignation
00:15:33of Prosecutor General Ruslan Kravchenko, because
00:15:36immediately after this
00:15:39procedure, when the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine dismissed
00:15:43Kravchenko, a completely logical question arose,
00:15:47was that conflict, which we witnessed, the public
00:15:50conflict between Kravchenko and NABU director
00:15:54Semen Kryvonos, was it a personal conflict, or was
00:15:58it still a conflict between the structures
00:16:01they head, or is this conflict also called
00:16:05an institutional crisis, are there signs
00:16:08of an institutional crisis in Ukraine, or is it still about
00:16:12some personal non-acceptance
00:16:14of one person by another?
00:16:17Institutional crisis, managerial
00:16:20crisis, we can call it differently, but it
00:16:23is present and unfortunately not for the first year, and
00:16:26now I would not consider the Prosecutor General separately, because
00:16:30we have a huge problem, this is generally a crisis in the work of law enforcement
00:16:34agencies, I'll just remind you of the events of the last few weeks,
00:16:37when there was a clash
00:16:41between representatives of the Security Service
00:16:43of Ukraine, and the Main Intelligence Directorate, and
00:16:47the SBU no longer even hides the fact that there is a problem, the culprits will
00:16:51be punished, there are many other examples,
00:16:54again, the case of fraudulent call centers, I will remind you
00:16:58that we have a separate department of cybersecurity, there is a center
00:17:02of cybersecurity, the Security Service of Ukraine.
00:17:06There is a separate unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs,
00:17:09called the Cyberpolice, and it's hard for me to imagine that both the SBU and
00:17:13the cyberpolice simply didn't notice such a massive
00:17:17fraudulent scheme, in which according to media reports,
00:17:20more than 60,000 people were involved, this is a huge number, if they didn't
00:17:24notice, then it's incompetence, if they noticed, they didn't
00:17:28react, well then the problem is much bigger,
00:17:31and that is, now the question is not only about Kravchenko, the question is much
00:17:35broader. Well, and in addition to this
00:17:38is added the absence of any logical cooperation between the government
00:17:42and parliament, in fact, parliamentary
00:17:46sessions were disrupted on Friday, when they could not
00:17:49only hear the government, not only an hour of questions for
00:17:52the government, they could also devote half
00:17:56of the session to considering
00:17:59draft laws, and therefore now we need to proceed from this, a
00:18:03complex of measures on how to get out, get out of this
00:18:06problem, here... the question about Kravchenko,
00:18:09well, I think the first step is the legislative
00:18:13regulation of the process of electing the Prosecutor
00:18:16General, second, a thorough dialogue between the candidate
00:18:19and parliament, and before approval, the
00:18:22options, scenarios, mechanisms
00:18:25for cleaning up the Prosecutor General's Office should have been
00:18:28explained, and again looking deeper, looking at
00:18:32the cooperation between the government and parliament, because in such
00:18:36a format, the government simply cannot be effective, you say,
00:18:39Mr. Oleksiy, that obviously, this whole
00:18:42call center scheme could not have gone
00:18:46unnoticed by other law enforcement agencies, in some media
00:18:50they write that
00:18:52this part, which the prosecutors took
00:18:56for themselves, is not the entire part of this large
00:18:59call center pie, that other
00:19:02law enforcement agencies are involved,
00:19:06can the story of Carthage
00:19:10in the Prosecutor General's Office, I mean the special operation
00:19:13Carthage, be the beginning of subsequent
00:19:17NABU special operations, Carthage-1, Carthage-2,
00:19:20Carthage-3, in which
00:19:24evidence will be seized
00:19:25or evidence will be made public
00:19:29regarding the involvement of other law enforcement
00:19:33agencies in covering call centers, although call centers are...
00:19:37it seems to me, only one of the segments of this
00:19:40shadow economy, such
00:19:43a bandit economy, which exists in Ukraine,
00:19:47obviously, obviously, this is not all.
00:19:50Well, I agree, that is, the definition "bandit economy" is the closest
00:19:54fit, because de facto law enforcement officers are working in the format of the early
00:19:5890s, and here I do not rule out that there may
00:20:02be subsequent and subsequent stages, so now
00:20:05the key task is not only the question of Kravchenko, not
00:20:08only the question of the prosecutor's office, but generally cleansing
00:20:12law enforcement officers and moving to some
00:20:15logical, normal, systemic format
00:20:18of work. Well, first, I believe that in general,
00:20:21among those bodies that were most affected by such
00:20:25corrosion, which operate in a semi-paralyzed state,
00:20:28is the parliament. And here, obviously, we need to think about a number
00:20:31of steps on how to improve the situation, such as increasing
00:20:34the number of days of session
00:20:37meetings, I am convinced that it is worth raising
00:20:41the question of a possible re-election of the leadership
00:20:44of the parliament, speaker, vice-speakers, because
00:20:48a large part of the responsibility for the state of affairs in which
00:20:52the parliament finds itself also lies with them.
00:20:56In general, the adoption of common mechanisms between the government,
00:20:59parliament, they can be different, there can be a common plan
00:21:02of legislative work, there are priorities, military
00:21:06draft laws once, Euro-integration - twice, well and
00:21:09quite naturally, those draft laws on which our
00:21:12financing depends, and really perhaps even
00:21:15survival. Around these draft laws, I am
00:21:19convinced that... it is easy to form, well, if not
00:21:22a new coalition, then at least, if we look realistically,
00:21:26a new situational coalition, which can unite the parliament
00:21:30for a certain period of time, and those
00:21:33priorities of work that I mentioned, well, that's at least a year
00:21:37of parliamentary work, and we need to proceed from such
00:21:41approaches,
00:21:43Mr. Oleksiy, if the parliament works for a minimum of one year, well, firstly,
00:21:46can a political will emerge
00:21:50after such a blatant case with
00:21:52Kravchenko to start this process,
00:21:56yes, and on the other hand, how to get out
00:21:59of the situation now in the short-term
00:22:03perspective?
00:22:06I think, first, there must be understanding on the part of the authorities, on
00:22:09the part of the head of government, on the part
00:22:11of that illogical system of governance that
00:22:15is happening today, when the President's Office stands at the top of the
00:22:18pyramid. The executive and legislative branches are virtually
00:22:22such units, two branches that are completely directly
00:22:25subordinate. If this mechanism worked six months ago,
00:22:29we must understand that over the past two months, everything has changed
00:22:32radically, that is, both the issue
00:22:35of the front, I mean reactive drones, means
00:22:38of counteraction, the absence
00:22:41of warheads for our
00:22:44air defense, this is also an economic issue. Well, for
00:22:46example, over the last two months, we have received
00:22:50an extremely serious blow to Ukrainian
00:22:53metallurgy, an extremely serious blow
00:22:56to our farmers, and so far there is no clear vision of how
00:22:59to solve this problem, that is, the country that was
00:23:03at the beginning of summer and in the
00:23:06middle of September, there are two radically
00:23:09different situations there in the economy and at the front, and
00:23:12therefore, I don't want to be an idealist, I don't want to talk
00:23:16about a new coalition, but
00:23:20there are no other options
00:23:23to get out of the situation, no other options for us to set up
00:23:26the work of these managerial mechanisms,
00:23:30I don't see any today, well, and for the authorities, again, the authorities
00:23:34should perfectly understand that the probability of early
00:23:37elections and a quick truce, today this
00:23:40probability is quite, quite low, and therefore
00:23:44we had a recent example in 2022,
00:23:47spring, autumn, when in parliament
00:23:50there were mostly 300 votes for draft laws that
00:23:54became laws, I won't be an idealist, but
00:23:58at least to ensure 226 now for
00:24:01military, Euro-integration, this is
00:24:04quite realistic, well, obviously, whether this will be
00:24:08the case or not depends, among other things, or primarily, on
00:24:12the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, who is the informal
00:24:15leader of the Servant of the People and...
00:24:19is the person who brought to parliament, or under
00:24:22whose banner this mono-majority passed, which then,
00:24:25well, the majority, which then formed a mono-majority in
00:24:29parliament, but against the
00:24:32background of what you are saying, Ruslan Kravchenko,
00:24:36now the former Prosecutor General of Ukraine, said that
00:24:39Zelensky, he asked him
00:24:43and interfered in his affairs, he said that
00:24:46there is no need to initiate a case and no need to serve
00:24:51a notice of suspicion to NABU director
00:24:54Semen Kryvonos, but well, this
00:24:57is the criminal code, that is, Article 343,
00:25:00interference in the activities of the prosecutor's office and the prosecutor
00:25:04general or judicial expert, there is a long
00:25:07this article sounds like that, President
00:25:11Zelensky, according to the Constitution,
00:25:14enjoys immunity, but in the current situation,
00:25:17can this case
00:25:21gain prospects after President
00:25:24Zelensky loses his powers, because
00:25:27putting pressure on the prosecutor and the general
00:25:31if he has evidence in the prosecutor general, this is in principle a criminal
00:25:35article, which obviously will not have a
00:25:38statute of limitations, and you don't have to wait
00:25:4210-15 years for this statute of limitations to expire,
00:25:45Zelensky will definitely be reminded
00:25:49of this, what do you think, in the current situation,
00:25:52can Kravchenko go further than what he said, that is, can
00:25:56he provide evidence that President Zelensky put pressure
00:26:00on the Prosecutor General and in this
00:26:02way already one criminal case awaits Zelensky in the future?
00:26:05Well, on the one hand, let's
00:26:09imagine, in
00:26:12what a trap Kravchenko is in now, that is, a person who two
00:26:15weeks ago stood at the top of the pyramid of the power
00:26:19structure, that is, the chief security official of the country,
00:26:22de facto, and then suddenly he turns into
00:26:25an outcast, and I think that, well, at least I'm watching his
00:26:28activity, he's creating YouTube channels, giving media.
00:26:32occasions, I think that a simply good
00:26:35consulting agency gave him advice that the best
00:26:39defense is offense, and therefore such options
00:26:42of attack will continue to exist, I think
00:26:46that Kravchenko will speak, will speak a lot,
00:26:49will speak for a long time, but perhaps there is another scenario,
00:26:53perhaps he will choose some comfortable country for himself, where
00:26:56he will start to feel safe more or less for a certain period of time,
00:27:00but in any case...
00:27:03the information voiced will sooner or later
00:27:06become a subject for criminal proceedings, and here I
00:27:10agree with you, that is, the statement
00:27:12of the ex-Prosecutor General about the pressure of the president on security forces
00:27:16can have consequences, even in the distant
00:27:18future.
00:27:21Well, but in the near future we are waiting for
00:27:24the election or the proposal for the election
00:27:27of a new Prosecutor General, for now
00:27:30Zelensky is not in a hurry with this and... And here arises
00:27:34a perfectly logical question, why? Because
00:27:37with the resignation of Kravchenko, it would have been possible
00:27:40to simultaneously vote for a new Prosecutor
00:27:43General, what from a new Prosecutor General can depend
00:27:47in the current situation, such that his
00:27:50candidacy is not submitted so quickly, that is, if the Prosecutor
00:27:54General can submit a submission for bringing to
00:27:57criminal liability the people's deputies of Ukraine, then
00:28:00what is in the powers
00:28:03of the Prosecutor General that
00:28:05may be undesirable at the current stage, and that with this
00:28:09Prosecutor General, one should not
00:28:12make a mistake, because he can do
00:28:15something that is not expected
00:28:18from him.
00:28:21I think that one of the reasons is that Bankova today really does not have
00:28:25votes in parliament for the appointment of a new Prosecutor General. There
00:28:29are several reasons, well, first, the
00:28:32management of the parliament has changed, well, excuse me, well, that's
00:28:35how it is, during Yermak's period it worked
00:28:38flawlessly, that is, they negotiated with pro-government
00:28:41groups-factions, unofficial colleagues in
00:28:44the coalition, somewhere maybe persuasion, somewhere maybe
00:28:47requests, somewhere maybe there was a distribution
00:28:50of state positions in favor of temporary allies, that is, it worked
00:28:54differently, but the votes were secured, now
00:28:57the system has failed, well, let's still see that for the resignation
00:29:01of the Prosecutor General... there were 330,
00:29:05331 votes, colossal 31 317
00:29:08317 for this parliament is just a colossal
00:29:11number, that is, obviously everyone is dissatisfied with Kravchenko without
00:29:15exception, but appointing here is already more difficult,
00:29:18because it is necessary to save face before the Europeans, who
00:29:22say stop, the question is not in the name, change the principles,
00:29:26change the approaches, you took obligations there to elect
00:29:29a Prosecutor General, reform the SBI. There are
00:29:33many questions for Ukraine,
00:29:36and therefore, perhaps, they deliberately took a sufficiently long pause
00:29:40in order to see how the Europeans would react,
00:29:43how much they would pressure
00:29:47or observe, well, and later there will be a decision,
00:29:50well, and I do not exclude that such a long pause in
00:29:53the work of the parliament was also taken precisely because of
00:29:57the impasse, because of the misunderstanding of what to do with this extremely high-profile
00:30:01case, and how to get out of the situation, because they want to have
00:30:04a controlled new Prosecutor General, they want to
00:30:07control the processes further, well, and
00:30:11no one wants to look at the process broadly, that the question is not only in
00:30:14Kravchenko, the question is that the system is ineffective,
00:30:18they built an administrative anomaly that cannot be
00:30:22effective, in manual mode, not manual,
00:30:25but the state is ineffective, that is the biggest problem. Thank you
00:30:29, Oleksiy, for joining us this Sunday evening for our
00:30:32broadcast. Oleksiy Koshel, political scientist, doctor of historical sciences,
00:30:36head of the Committee of Voters. And we were talking about
00:30:39the institutional crisis and how to get out of it at all,
00:30:43to get out of this situation, and the question remains
00:30:47open, whether a system that largely
00:30:51concentrates around the presidential
00:30:53vertical, with a weakened role of parliament after
00:30:572022 can come to balance.