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00:00:00There were many more top presentations of Ukrainian
00:00:04manufacturers at the exhibition, and we'll talk about them later, but now about Coral, about
00:00:08Ukrainian ballistics and Ukrainian anti-ballistics, about
00:00:11reactive Shaheds, we are talking to Anatolii
00:00:14Khrapchynskyi, who returned from Kielce from the international
00:00:18defense industry exhibition. Anatolii
00:00:21Khrapchynskyi, aviation expert, former officer
00:00:24of the Ukrainian Air Force, director of development of a defense
00:00:28enterprise. Mr. Anatolii, welcome. You were sitting
00:00:31in that photo from the exhibition in Kielce with such joy,
00:00:35radiating it, at the helm of an F-35,
00:00:38that it is immediately clear that there are no former Air Force officers.
00:00:41Please tell me, how fundamentally different is it from those F-16s that we have, and do we
00:00:45have such an
00:00:48ambition or dream to someday get such machines, because the Poles, it seems,
00:00:52have F-35s. The Turks have F-35s,
00:00:56in fact, compared to the F-16, the F-16 for me.
00:01:00I had to sit in the cockpit back in the early
00:01:022000s, but here it should be noted that this is actually completely different
00:01:06technology, completely different capabilities, respectively,
00:01:09it should be said that the cost of the resource for using such an aircraft
00:01:12is significantly higher, so of course we should
00:01:16dream of fifth-generation aircraft that we could use in our
00:01:19air forces, but in my opinion, for now,
00:01:22the most effective means that we
00:01:26could get would be Gripen aircraft, because they are significantly
00:01:29cheaper in terms of resources and they were built
00:01:32exclusively for war with a neighboring country,
00:01:35because the anticipated ability to
00:01:39take off from road surfaces and the anticipated
00:01:42ability to disperse
00:01:45aircraft to the nearest, for example, some groves or
00:01:49forests, that is, here we are talking about the safety
00:01:53of aviation not basing itself on one large airfield, because America
00:01:57is still, let's say, either an aircraft carrier... or a separate
00:02:00continent where they are located, and they do not have such ground threats as
00:02:04we do from the Russian Federation, so accordingly, it must be said that
00:02:08yes, this aircraft can be used as
00:02:11a modern defense
00:02:14system that can counter many
00:02:17threats, but at the same time, when we are fighting an enemy that
00:02:20launches hundreds and thousands of drones
00:02:24costing $100, it is clear that the cost
00:02:27of one missile from an F-35, which
00:02:30costs over half a million dollars, is accordingly
00:02:34an unprofitable use, so what is the purpose of the F-35 then, what is
00:02:37their mission, why are these aircraft
00:02:40then? They were created, they were created for
00:02:43large contracts, they were created in those times during
00:02:47the arms race, when they were
00:02:50created in peacetime from possible
00:02:53future threats, because in principle, the F-35 can fly in
00:02:57a group with drones that can perform them, that is,
00:03:01it will be known, leading, drones will be known
00:03:04and will perform certain tasks, so I would say that in fact
00:03:08here there
00:03:11are interesting solutions that they can use, but
00:03:14again, this is a more modern, more technological
00:03:18war that involves the use of such equipment, for now we
00:03:21are fighting an enemy that actively uses Chinese
00:03:24components, Chinese engines and
00:03:27saturates its means of destruction with cheap elements. Clear, well,
00:03:30it turns out that the F35 is a plane for the rich, right?
00:03:34Tell me, please, do the Russians have fifth-generation planes, or do they
00:03:38want to have fifth-generation, or is it four and a
00:03:41half generation that they have
00:03:44now?
00:03:47Russia thinks that they have fifth-generation aircraft, and they
00:03:51express themselves from the point of view of technical characteristics, as if they have fifth-generation aircraft,
00:03:54if we are talking about the Su-57, but at the same time
00:03:58it must be said that this... does not meet the technical
00:04:02characteristics of a fifth-generation aircraft, there are a lot of questions,
00:04:05at least, let's start with the fact that the 157 aircraft use
00:04:09aircraft engines, and the FL-41 is
00:04:12a modernization of the old FL-31
00:04:15engine, that is, we are talking about these engines that were used
00:04:18earlier on the Su-27,
00:04:22that is, on older aircraft, moreover, even the mounts are the same on these
00:04:25engines, they say this about the conditional
00:04:29modularity, that is, you can put an old engine in a new aircraft,
00:04:33but at the same time it must be said that
00:04:35there are serious problems with jet engines for the enemy, and
00:04:39at the same time it must be said that there is a serious problem with the electronics that
00:04:43they install in their aircraft, because let's remember that the
00:04:47growth of Russian aviation took place against the background of gaining the ability to install
00:04:50French avionics, American chips in their aircraft, then
00:04:54the technological growth of these aircraft began, after 2014 they
00:04:57had serious problems regarding
00:05:00the ability to purchase these components, accordingly it must be said
00:05:04that currently they
00:05:07use either what is imported through illegal channels, or, for example, what Belarus
00:05:11produces, which at one time... also managed to establish the production of some
00:05:15components.
00:05:17Okay, let's go from the sky to the ground, let's return to
00:05:21the exhibition in Kielce, please tell me, how honorably was
00:05:24Ukraine represented there, that is, which stands
00:05:27perhaps most interested you, how did it
00:05:30look against the background of other participants, your certain personal
00:05:33impressions?
00:05:37Well, let's start with the fact that at least two
00:05:39stands of Ukrainian associations. Armament
00:05:43and NaUD stood side by side, this is already close to
00:05:46the goal that I constantly announce, that at such international
00:05:50exhibitions Ukraine should be presented with a common
00:05:53single stand, Ukraine, where the
00:05:56opportunity to show all
00:06:00the technologies that we use,
00:06:03to maximally immerse society in
00:06:06war, and to use 3D
00:06:09visualization, to show what happened after the liberation of Bucha,
00:06:13what was in other directions, how the Russian
00:06:16Federation is fighting, visually it is necessary to show so that
00:06:20Europeans who come to these defense exhibitions
00:06:23understand that what
00:06:26they are currently presenting them with, models of a large number
00:06:30of weapons, it is not a fact that it can protect them from the invasion that
00:06:33comes from Russia, so it is certainly
00:06:36necessary to say that Ukraine presented a large number of interesting
00:06:40solutions, and Firepoint, once
00:06:43again, showed its ballistic and cruise missiles, accordingly and attack
00:06:47drones, so in principle we looked decent, but
00:06:51at the same time it must be said that we see Poland, which is
00:06:53actively cooperating in increasing
00:06:57its defense budget, let's remember that Poland has the largest defense budget in
00:07:00Europe, they have the opportunity to cooperate
00:07:04with South Korea, which we
00:07:07do not have the opportunity to, South Korea produces many interesting
00:07:11solutions and analogues of American
00:07:13weapons under an American license, it produces a lot of interesting weapons that it supplies to
00:07:17Poland, perhaps that is why we
00:07:21do not have direct government contracts with Poland that would allow us
00:07:25to interact between defense companies, by the way, so here it must be
00:07:28said that Poland most likely
00:07:31continues to receive funding for its
00:07:34defense contracts, accordingly the opportunity to work with such
00:07:38states as Israel or
00:07:42South Korea, or, for example, the same Japan, where cooperation with
00:07:45states that have "victory" is not foreseen
00:07:48by the state doctrine. Models, models, models. In our
00:07:52social networks, when the exhibition in Kielce took place, there was such
00:07:55a wave of depreciation, you know, about the fact that they are showing
00:07:58models again, and when will we see real
00:08:01products, what can you say about that?
00:08:04Well, the real product recently
00:08:07formed an entire production
00:08:11workshop in the territory of the Russian Federation,
00:08:14and there are still a number of indicators
00:08:17of weapon use, moreover, it must be said that
00:08:21samples were presented that have already proven themselves effective
00:08:24on the combat line, protecting
00:08:28servicemen, helping to detect enemy threats, but
00:08:32at the same time, accordingly it must be said that let's
00:08:35ask or ask Ukrainian manufacturers
00:08:38how many products Poland does not allow to be brought
00:08:42to any other European exhibition, so here
00:08:45there is also a certain problem with import, and the fact that models
00:08:49are presented, a model is much easier to export than some sample
00:08:53of weaponry, because there are also certain
00:08:55restrictions, but at the same time it must be said
00:08:59that there is a key request, recently Valerii
00:09:02Zaluzhnyi appealed about the need to unite
00:09:06efforts to create quality solutions, and here
00:09:09I support him, because in turn...
00:09:27to get expertise from Ukraine, to stick a
00:09:30"Battleproof in Ukraine" sticker on it, but
00:09:33at the same time to work exclusively in the direction of monetizing their
00:09:37capabilities. Let's recall the experience of the Second
00:09:41World War. but the allies united their
00:09:44efforts, and how much and what kind of weapons
00:09:47to produce, was decided not by separate ministries
00:09:51of individual states, but by a single body, so we have
00:09:55something like Ramstein, but at the same time it must be said
00:09:58that Ramstein is the distribution of available resources and their transfer
00:10:02to Ukraine, it is not the creation of a general strategy,
00:10:05where there is a number of European
00:10:08companies that develop radars, that develop
00:10:12guidance: unite your efforts to create a modern
00:10:15system that can overcome the ballistic threat. Let's solve
00:10:19the issue of reducing the cost of countering ballistic missiles,
00:10:22that is, the European defense
00:10:26industry remains fragmented,
00:10:28disunited and accordingly most companies do not
00:10:32foresee rapid scaling in
00:10:35Randy, it sees the possibility of selling existing means
00:10:39directly to the state, which they are ready to purchase, so
00:10:43this is a global problem, perhaps this is a request to Europe, this is a request to our
00:10:47diplomacy so that we can unite efforts, there is
00:10:50a promising proposal from the side of uniting efforts
00:10:54around Freya, because there is a proposal to unite efforts that exist in
00:10:58European countries, there are opportunities to produce solid fuel in
00:11:00Denmark, there are opportunities to produce guidance heads in
00:11:04Germany, radars, to combine all these systems into a
00:11:07single complex, into a single network that will allow
00:11:11to reduce the cost of missiles, interceptors, by the way, here we must again remember
00:11:15that now the United States is considering the possibility of reducing the cost of both Pact
00:11:193x MSA missiles for the Patriot system and
00:11:21missiles for the THAAD systems, this is anti-missile
00:11:25defense, accordingly it must be said that most manufacturers
00:11:28are already starting to look into cost reduction, but at the same time
00:11:32most manufacturers say that funding is needed, because they
00:11:36are used to living in peacetime, where
00:11:39the deadline is set not by the
00:11:42combat line, but by the corresponding manager. Mr. Anatolii,
00:11:45you literally anticipated my question about Freya, because literally
00:11:49the other day President Zelensky mentioned it again, how
00:11:53seriously to take this project, we just know that Europeans
00:11:57had more than one project in different
00:12:01defense sectors, which they eventually did not bring
00:12:04to fruition, precisely because it is many countries, many
00:12:07manufacturers, and such a certain, excuse me, collective farm
00:12:11was formed, will it not be the same with Freya, how serious is
00:12:15the matter here?
00:12:19Let's start with the fact that Ukraine was not in those other
00:12:22projects, perhaps this is the main problem of Europe that they could not
00:12:25unite,
00:12:28they could not unite, because you can recall the project
00:12:31of creating a joint aircraft, and let's
00:12:35remember even the present time, the beginning of the full-scale
00:12:38invasion, the creation of the European sky shield, where the
00:12:41Europeans argued about what they would use as the main
00:12:44system, the Patriot system or the
00:12:47SAMP/T system, let's remember the drone wall,
00:12:51which still doesn't have this wall, perhaps some
00:12:54other price on the border with the Russian Federation, accordingly it must be
00:12:58said that the main task here is to overcome certain
00:13:02bureaucratic obstacles, and precisely bureaucratic obstacles in
00:13:05Europe, at the same time bureaucratic obstacles in Ukraine, because
00:13:09again, returning to the experience of the Second World War, then there were
00:13:13no, there were no restrictions on the transfer of technologies,
00:13:16that is, technologies were quickly exchanged between allied
00:13:19states. Now we have, conditionally speaking,
00:13:23open export of weapons,
00:13:25which still hasn't started, because there are a lot of memorandums and intentions, but
00:13:29there is no export of weapons, and we have a ban on the export
00:13:32of technologies, and the export of technologies is what is actually
00:13:36needed right now to quickly optimize in order
00:13:40to gain experience from European countries, provide our
00:13:43capabilities and exchange this experience and create a joint
00:13:46product, and this is the main problem, because
00:13:49of course it's great when we are given the opportunity to produce Storm
00:13:53Shadow missiles, but how much does this missile cost and how many will we be able to produce
00:13:57and when will we start producing them, this also applies to missiles for
00:14:00Patriots, how much time will pass before we start producing them.
00:14:03Accordingly, it must be said that the cost
00:14:07of these, the cost of these means is also significantly higher
00:14:10than what we need to counter the enemy threat, because
00:14:14the enemy, for example, changes the tactics of air attack, he begins
00:14:17to use strategic aviation less, because the flight of six
00:14:21strategic bombers is 2 million dollars, this is without the cost of missiles.
00:14:25Accordingly, it is easier to launch reactive drones for this cost,
00:14:28in addition to the reduced cost of missiles, which cost from $100 to
00:14:32$150,000 and
00:14:35much more, although in terms of profile it is the same air target as
00:14:39a cruise missile for us, so in principle here I would say that
00:14:43we need to look for solutions for cost reduction, interaction with
00:14:46European companies through the opening of technology transfer, this
00:14:50is a very important issue, which does not become
00:14:53the main obstacle to interaction between
00:14:57companies, in the desire of investors to invest in
00:15:00Ukraine, because let's compare
00:15:03some European companies that received about 600
00:15:07million euros in investments last year, this year that quantity,
00:15:11received billions of euros in investments because it
00:15:14has battleproofs in Ukraine, Ukrainian companies, on the other hand, last
00:15:18year received only 125 million in investments, what does this tell us? It says that
00:15:22we need to attract investors, an investor can
00:15:25come in under what, when he can be guaranteed to receive the IP of the product,
00:15:29if he lays it out, he will be able to manufacture this product in his
00:15:32country, or at least he will be protected by
00:15:36the state in... within the framework of the existing
00:15:39public-private partnership law, but which does not work, his
00:15:43investments will be protected, that is, the state guarantees, because
00:15:46if we give an example, when the state guarantees,
00:15:50quality products appear, it is enough to recall
00:15:53SpaceX with its Starlink, the state
00:15:56guaranteed that this product would be of high quality, investors began to invest money, and
00:16:00when Elon Musk's rockets fell, investors did not ask, they waited
00:16:03for it to work, well, we are so
00:16:06demanding, when something doesn't fly, we immediately start
00:16:10to revile it, but at the same time it must be said that precisely
00:16:13quality interaction and state conditions that will allow
00:16:16Ukrainian manufacturers to attract European investors, to exchange
00:16:20technologies with Europeans, this will also bring
00:16:23certain opportunities to Europeans, let's recall how Poland demanded drones from us for
00:16:27the old MiG-29, that is, when there are frameworks
00:16:30for interaction on equal terms, then it will be
00:16:34better for the Ukrainian manufacturer, it is clear that European
00:16:37manufacturers are afraid of Ukrainian manufacturers, because we offer many cheap
00:16:40solutions, let's recall Peppenger's interview, when he said
00:16:44that in order to create some element, we separate a separate
00:16:48enterprise, and Ukrainians take Jetson,
00:16:51Nvidia, take some Raspberry Pi and make it, it must be said
00:16:54that efforts between countries must be united
00:16:58in order to create a unified system, where decisions
00:17:01of strategic importance will be made, because
00:17:04again, let's return to the experience of the Second World War,
00:17:07when the decision of how much weapon was needed was made by a separate
00:17:11body, and not by some state ministry. Everything revolves around
00:17:14money, you yourself in this conversation several times mentioned cheap
00:17:18solutions, that is, they should not just be some unique ones, they can
00:17:22be, they need to be scaled for small costs, so
00:17:25the Russians seem to be succeeding, we are currently shooting down
00:17:29in the conditions of this missile and drone terror, we are
00:17:33shooting it down with planes, this is an expensive solution, yes this is an
00:17:36emergency solution, this is what
00:17:39we can do now, but in fact this cannot be a strategic solution.
00:17:43Please tell me, what can now close
00:17:47this issue of missile and drone terror,
00:17:49because Kyiv, in fact, well, this week, okay, it's a little
00:17:53calmer, probably they are accumulating missiles and
00:17:56drones, but it feels like in 2022, when we
00:17:59didn't have Patriots and nothing, these must be
00:18:03reactive interceptors, these must be SAMs, it must
00:18:07be a complex, what should it be, because there are different opinions and different
00:18:11discussions on how to build this new virtually
00:18:13air defense.
00:18:17Let's start with the fact that there is no single solution that will save us from all
00:18:20threats, and therefore we constantly, I constantly emphasize that
00:18:24we need to build a layered system, with different
00:18:28types
00:18:30of detection, that is, we must detect in any weather conditions and
00:18:34any
00:18:36threats. detect an air target at different altitudes,
00:18:40regardless of the speed of flight, accordingly,
00:18:43already receiving information regarding
00:18:46the characteristics of the target, at what altitude, at what speed, then we can
00:18:50talk about the choice of weapons that we will use against this
00:18:53drone, and accordingly this can only be said when we
00:18:57can saturate our capabilities with different
00:18:59tools, at one time mobile fire groups
00:19:03used Brownings, then they got, uh, MANPADS
00:19:07systems. then they got interceptor drones,
00:19:10uh, similarly, one can also say that
00:19:13it could be used now.
00:19:16In fact, we are not only shooting down aviation, and it should be noted that recently
00:19:20some capabilities for interception have improved, I will not say with what
00:19:23tools, but they
00:19:27are very strange, but they
00:19:29help, well, this
00:19:33is not
00:19:36for anyone. we have been talking about this for a long time, that it can be used, but
00:19:39again, this requires a clear understanding of the air
00:19:43target, so here I would say that in any case we
00:19:47must build a system that will be capable of responding
00:19:51even to future challenges, because now the enemy uses
00:19:55jet speed, then he adapts
00:19:58mesh communication more effectively, that is, we have already seen the use
00:20:01of mesh communication along the western border, along the border with
00:20:05Poland, when Shaheds flew in.
00:20:07Accordingly, it must be said that this is the next direction in which it is moving.
00:20:11The main problem is to understand that most of the enemy's
00:20:15air attack means that he currently uses, instead of cruise
00:20:18missiles there, are unified tools, because
00:20:22look at the Serpisha antenna,
00:20:25which detects any errors and
00:20:29receives navigation data, a unified system that can
00:20:32work on a banderole, which can work on a Shahed, which works on the
00:20:36MPK module, cab, communication system,
00:20:40navigation, cameras, all this
00:20:43is cheap Chinese stuff, which is supplied by the wagon,
00:20:46in containers from China, and accordingly,
00:20:50this allowed Russia to scale the volumes of such
00:20:53production and quickly modernize, because, for example, the Geran-3
00:20:57was a regular, regular Geran
00:21:01with a DVS, but they put a jet engine on it, accordingly they could not
00:21:04speed it up, so they strengthened the body and made it
00:21:07accordingly, and now the form factor is changing, that is,
00:21:10there is Kavyor or
00:21:13Banderole or Shahed or Karar 5,
00:21:16Karar drone is Geran 5, this is
00:21:19a drone. a missile, accordingly it must be said that what they did is
00:21:23what I constantly say are unified elements from which different tools
00:21:27can be assembled, used at a long
00:21:30distance, without raising expensive strategic aviation, without
00:21:34raising expensive tactical aviation, and I understand
00:21:38that forecasts are always a thankless task, but I heard that
00:21:41Ukraine will receive full-fledged missile and drone defense somewhere within
00:21:45two months, and against ballistics somewhere in
00:21:48six months, do you agree with such a statement, or is it too
00:21:52optimistic, or too pessimistic, how are things
00:21:55progressing here?
00:21:58will receive, this means will receive from our Western partners, I would say,
00:22:02I would ask when we will make our own solution, because
00:22:05Ukroboronprom presented a quite high-quality, interesting
00:22:08solution, and a repurposed aviation
00:22:12missile, this is a classic practice of all defense
00:22:15companies, when a class air-to-air missile, and they
00:22:19upgrade it or upgrade
00:22:22the platform and refine certain technical
00:22:25capabilities in order to be able to intercept air
00:22:28nations, accordingly it must be said that I am talking about Coral,
00:22:32yes, yes, only there someone mistakenly said that
00:22:35it can intercept ballistics, it cannot intercept ballistics, because the speeds do not
00:22:39allow it and the guidance system does not allow it, this is an exclusively
00:22:43tactical SAM system that will work against
00:22:47cruise missiles, against aircraft, against jet
00:22:50drones, so I would say that right now
00:22:53we do not need to wait again for our Western partners to give us something, but
00:22:57to do our own, a quality example of capability regarding strikes
00:23:01deep into the territory of the Russian Federation. When we started producing our
00:23:05means, Russia is now seeking to get
00:23:08an energy truce. So here it must be said that when we
00:23:11can independently create means to counter such
00:23:15a threat, this will be the best solution. Of course,
00:23:19it won't work independently, but when we unite efforts with
00:23:23our Western partners at the level of partnership and
00:23:26technology transfer, then we will have more
00:23:29opportunities. We logically came to the conversation about deep strikes,
00:23:33you mentioned long-range strikes on
00:23:36Russia, you know, there is no longer that feeling in
00:23:39society, as it was, for example, in May, in June, after another
00:23:43arrival, there is no such euphoria, on the one hand, people have probably
00:23:47already gotten used to it, on the other hand, the attacks on Kyiv, on
00:23:50Ukraine, somehow don't add much either. optimism, but here
00:23:54it's more about Eric Schmidt, yes, about the former
00:23:57head of Google, who wrote a column, you obviously read
00:24:01it about
00:24:04Ukraine losing its advantage
00:24:07in the drone war with Russia.
00:24:10How objective is such
00:24:14an assessment? In my opinion, it's an assessment
00:24:17that forces us to once again address a number of questions: what are we doing
00:24:21wrong? Here, there is correct
00:24:25and quality feedback
00:24:28from a person who works with drones, and accordingly, it must be said that
00:24:32his advice should be listened to. And you are once again
00:24:36pushing me towards the topic of interaction with Western
00:24:40partners regarding accelerating our technologies, because we are
00:24:43significantly dependent on Chinese components. To start
00:24:46producing our own components, we need millions
00:24:50of investments to create factories that will produce flight
00:24:54controllers, produce engines. Well, we produce engines, but we still
00:24:58buy magnets from China. Accordingly, we need to talk about the fact
00:25:01that we need a unified strategy for the development of the defense industry,
00:25:05which will be part of the strategy of the European Union,
00:25:08at least of the countries that help us and actively
00:25:11help, not express their concern, but rather
00:25:15help us with weapons, help us with money. Accordingly, we need to talk
00:25:18about unification with... The goal of creating a single communication center that
00:25:22will make decisions about what weapons, what
00:25:26companies start doing, developing, and where we
00:25:29get the invest- investments, money
00:25:32from frozen accounts of the Russian Federation. Mr. Anatoliy, I
00:25:35thank you for the conversation, for sharing your impressions from
00:25:38the Polish exhibition and for such a certain strategic vision, such
00:25:42an outline you drew, of what needs to be done, particularly in partnership with Europeans,
00:25:46because if Russia has a rear - that's China, then we obviously have a rear -
00:25:49that's Europe, and in particular those component factories you
00:25:53mentioned, we probably need to place them somewhere else to
00:25:57protect them from Russian strikes, which
00:25:59will obviously intensify. Thank you. All
00:26:03the best. The peculiarity of this war is that it is the first such
00:26:06lightning-fast technological race. Between the invention of the submarine
00:26:09and sonar,
00:26:12140 years passed. Between the use of poisonous gases and
00:26:15gas masks - 110, and between mines and
00:26:18mine detectors - 80. In this war,
00:26:21between the invention of offensive and defensive weapons,
00:26:25only a few months may pass. That's why
00:26:28today's engineers are also a bit of strategists who must
00:26:31understand where the war will turn. At one of
00:26:35the largest European defense exhibitions in Kielce,
00:26:38the stands of Ukrainian manufacturers were at the top. Now
00:26:42we hope for conveyor production, which
00:26:44will make it easier for us, more painful
00:26:47for the enemy.
00:26:51If the Coral SAM system protects our sky, then
00:26:54the RAM2X Kamikaze attack drone has been attacking the enemy
00:26:58for two years on the second line of the front and in Crimea.
00:27:02But it was also presented to the public for the first time. Our
00:27:06troops fly into the second
00:27:09echelon
00:27:11of Russian military and there, finding a target,
00:27:15that is, it's either air defense, or radar
00:27:18or other expensive equipment, they destroy it
00:27:22thanks to the Ram-2x product. Reactive
00:27:25drones, which are currently terrorizing Ukraine, will soon
00:27:28fly boomerang-style into Russia. In Kielce,
00:27:31a turbojet engine for the Bars
00:27:34drone was presented, which successfully passed final testing. The drone
00:27:38itself has existed for over a year, but previously it was assembled with imported
00:27:42engines, which is expensive, and there will always be
00:27:45a shortage of them. But now the localization level of Bars
00:27:48exceeds 74%.
00:27:51And this means that its own power plant will allow
00:27:54the production of reactive drones to scale many times
00:27:57faster, without waiting for permits or supplies from
00:28:01foreign partners. That is, Russians should
00:28:05prepare to experience the same thing that
00:28:08Kyiv residents are experiencing now. Just a little more. And this is already a development
00:28:11that could protect the sky over Ukraine. The Zirka Shershen.
00:28:15This is an air defense system that does not depend on one type of missile and can
00:28:18launch five different types of them at targets. And therefore,
00:28:22the military will not be intimidated by the lack of supplies. The complex can
00:28:26use both Soviet missiles like R-60,
00:28:29R-73, and R-27, as well as Western
00:28:33AIM-9 and AIM-132.
00:28:37Depending on the missile capabilities,
00:28:41Iris-T SLM
00:28:45or the Norwegian-American NASAMS. To
00:28:48manufacture one complex takes half a year, and to launch
00:28:51serial production - money. The Russians destroyed all
00:28:55the manufacturer's facilities in Ukraine, but cooperation abroad
00:28:58has already begun. At the exhibition in
00:29:01Kielce, they unexpectedly learned that the fifth
00:29:05president of Ukraine, whom they know, but primarily for
00:29:08his company's sweets, is now an arms
00:29:12baron. Petro Poroshenko
00:29:15present the Rep Eye Petro-3 system, in which he has
00:29:19is a serious problem for
00:29:23Russian KABs and drones. It operates in
00:29:26a wide range of frequencies, from 300 to
00:29:296000 MHz. It scans the space
00:29:32360° and can rotate on a rotating
00:29:36platform. The complex is mobile, it is installed
00:29:39on a regular pickup truck, and a crew of two people can
00:29:43deploy the system in just 10 minutes. About
00:29:46400 such complexes are already operating on
00:29:50the line of contact. Polish generals, who closely followed
00:29:53Ukrainian innovations, understand how much
00:29:56priorities have changed. No one
00:30:00will fight an old war.
00:30:03There's a change in thinking in Poland, we don't want to continue with such purchases that are difficult
00:30:06to accept on the battlefield, Ukraine shows that if we have to wait for
00:30:10ammunition that will be imported in a few weeks, or maybe a month, then
00:30:14by the time it arrives, it might be too late. New
00:30:17developments and their scaling require colossal funds and
00:30:21a reliable European rear. The Poles
00:30:24promise, they will not leave us
00:30:26to our fate.
00:30:41Well, we have learned to create our own air defense, build
00:30:45jet engines, and close the sky
00:30:48with electronic warfare. Ukraine will definitely withstand the air war with
00:30:51Russia, for which this may be the last
00:30:54chance, because the news from the front certainly does not
00:30:58please the Kremlin. What happened there?