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00:00:06Hello everyone, welcome to France 24. It is 3 PM in Paris,
00:00:10time to take a tour of the world news. First, the
00:00:13death toll is rising in Ukraine, with four dead in the
00:00:16massive bombardments overnight on Kyiv and its region. Volodymyr
00:00:20Zelensky denounced the use of ballistic missiles against
00:00:24civilian infrastructure. Moscow claims responsibility for the attacks but says it can
00:00:27target a fuel depot
00:00:30and an arms factory. These attacks come as the
00:00:33Ukrainian president makes his first visit to Serbia,
00:00:37an ally of Russia.
00:00:39Tension is rising between
00:00:42Madrid and Rome. Spain announced it would implement border
00:00:45controls for travelers from Italy, a retaliatory measure
00:00:49similar to the one Rome had introduced following the
00:00:53Ceuta crisis. And then these first testimonies
00:00:55collected in Nigeria. Last
00:00:58Thursday, more than 300 people were released after kidnappings
00:01:02in two northern states of the country last February. Among them
00:01:06are children who, as you will see, recount the ordeal they
00:01:09endured for months.
00:01:11decontamination is technically The death toll is therefore rising in Ukraine, with four dead in new
00:01:14massive bombardments on the
00:01:20of thousands of deaths also.
00:01:28capital, Kyiv, and its region. The toll was given this
00:01:32afternoon by President Volodymyr Zelensky, who
00:01:35denounced the use of ballistic missiles against civilians.
00:01:39For its part, Moscow claimed its attacks, but said it had
00:01:43targeted a fuel depot and an arms factory. Listen to
00:01:46the testimony of residents in Kyiv
00:01:49it is absolutely essential woken up by the sound of bombs. There was a terrible explosion. The
00:01:53crash was so violent that it sounded like the device was falling into the
00:01:55yard, and that's exactly where
00:01:57it landed. For now, we are walking
00:02:00in the neighboring house, our doors and windows were blown
00:02:03open. I immediately checked if my husband
00:02:06twice the annual budget of the was alive, because she was in another room. We went out and everything had already
00:02:10burned. My husband rushed to fetch water to extinguish the fire
00:02:13but in vain. The neighbors came out to try to save a
00:02:17young child but they couldn't find him.
00:02:21forces rescued 308 people And then we learned late this morning that a drone that entered
00:02:24Bulgaria this Saturday morning
00:02:26on the subject that the exploded near the border with Romania and especially
00:02:30near a gas pipeline that
00:02:33connects Turkey to Ukraine, passing, as you can see on this map,
00:02:37through the Balkans. The device was carrying a large quantity
00:02:40of explosives according to the Bulgarian authorities, who say they have
00:02:46with the participation once no information for the moment on the origin of the device. No
00:02:49victim has been reported. In the rest of the European news, the
00:02:53diplomatic standoff is intensifying between Madrid and
00:02:57Rome. Spain announced that it will introduce temporary border controls
00:03:00in its ports and
00:03:03bad communication from some airports for travelers from Italy. A retaliatory measure
00:03:07similar to the one Rome had imposed on Spain following the massive
00:03:10influx of migrants into the enclave of Ceuta. The weather is stormy
00:03:14between the two European allies, Alice Broga.
00:03:17A new confrontation between Madrid and Rome on the migration issue.
00:03:21Travelers from Italy will be controlled upon their arrival in Spain
00:03:24at ports and airports, from Saturday midnight until
00:03:27September 7. Madrid thus states that it wants to cope
00:03:30with the persistence of irregular migratory pressure suffered by
00:03:34but obviously it's a serious Italy, a way of
00:03:35problem, the epiphas for passing the buck to Rome, which used the same argument to
00:03:39implement border controls for travelers coming from
00:03:42Spain. Last July 31, the Italian
00:03:45far-right Prime Minister Georgia Meloni had announced
00:03:48the suspension until August 15 of the Schengen agreement
00:03:51on free movement with this country. A measure taken
00:03:55after 72,000 migrants crossed the border between Morocco and
00:03:58the Spanish enclave of Ceuta in North Africa last week.
00:04:01According to the Spanish government, 70,000 migrants have now returned to
00:04:04Morocco, but hundreds of unaccompanied children have remained in Ceuta.
00:04:07Some are being registered with the
00:04:10a tour of the world of Spanish police. Morocco says
00:04:12and instead we import it is ready to cooperate with Spain for their repatriation. The figure I can give you at this
00:04:16stage is that
00:04:19a lawyer, I am very much in favor of the application of 1342 boys and
00:04:20responsibility, very much in favor of girls have been registered and integrated into the reception
00:04:23system. The process continues, of course, the situation has been
00:04:27complex due to the volume of arrivals and a certain overpopulation,
00:04:31but things are gradually returning to normal. According to the
00:04:34Minister of Youth, some minors
00:04:36will be transferred to less saturated reception centers in the
00:04:39Spanish peninsula in the coming weeks.
00:04:42Donald Trump has his man at the head of American justice.
00:04:45Tote Blanche, his former personal lawyer, was
00:04:49confirmed by a very narrow majority by the American Senate, 50 votes
00:04:53to 49. Two Republican senators voted against the
00:04:56appointment of Donald Trump's trusted man, who
00:05:00notably helped make the Justice Department an extension of the
00:05:03White House. I acted under the direction of the president,
00:05:07notably declared the one who was Pam Bondi's deputy in recent
00:05:10years, the former Minister of Justice, thanked after her
00:05:14handling of the Epstein case. Since then, Blanche has been
00:05:18acting as interim. He has notably initiated many lawsuits against
00:05:21Donald Trump's presumed enemies, causing massive
00:05:25departures of career prosecutors. American justice,
00:05:29however, is not yet entirely in Donald Trump's hands. The
00:05:32District of Columbia Court of Appeals confirmed the suspension
00:05:36of the White House ballroom project. The work had been
00:05:39stopped by a judge last April for lack of congressional approval.
00:05:43A national disgrace... will the White House ballroom
00:05:46ever come out of the ground? This project, dear to
00:05:49Donald Trump, whose construction began at the end of 2025,
00:05:53has just been blocked again by American justice. The District
00:05:56of Columbia Court of Appeals confirmed a decision from last
00:06:00April: the work must stop because it was started without
00:06:04congressional approval, essential for such a project
00:06:07at the White House. A new setback for Donald Trump, who
00:06:10defends this project tooth and
00:06:16nail. This decision, taken while a large part of the work
00:06:19has already been completed and paid for, constitutes a
00:06:23threat to national security of the utmost gravity.
00:06:26It is also a national disgrace. We will immediately
00:06:30appeal this decision before the Supreme Court of the United
00:06:33States. This ballroom, more than 8300 square meters with a
00:06:36capacity of 1000 people, is financed by private funds,
00:06:40according to the American president, but the budget has already
00:06:43soared from 200 to 400 million dollars today.
00:06:46Donald Trump justifies this project and assures that the
00:06:50building will contain other military defense devices,
00:06:53but it is highly criticized. The National Trust for Historic
00:06:55Preservation, an NGO for the preservation of historic
00:06:59buildings, contested it in court. The Democratic opposition
00:07:02makes it the symbol of the president's ego.
00:07:06These are projects dictated by vanity, and the president
00:07:09would literally spend 70% of his time on them. The
00:07:13president is a very busy person, he has many things to pay
00:07:16attention to, including the war in Iran. This project is also
00:07:20not unanimous within the Republican party. Donald Trump's
00:07:22government now has 14 days to appeal before the US
00:07:25Supreme Court. These are the first testimonies
00:07:29reaching us from Nigeria. Last Thursday, the country's security
00:07:34kidnapped during separate attacks in two northern states
00:07:37of Nigeria. Among them were children. Today, the survivors
00:07:40recount the ordeal they
00:07:42endured during captivity, since their kidnapping last
00:07:46February. Axel Simon, women and children still
00:07:49traumatized. They were rescued on Thursday by Nigerian
00:07:52security forces and are now waiting to return home.
00:07:56They were among the 308 people kidnapped last February in
00:07:59two northern states of Nigeria.
00:08:02Today, some testify to the ordeal they went through.
00:08:06Every time a plane approached, they ordered us to turn off the fires
00:08:09we had lit and to keep absolute silence so as not to
00:08:13be spotted. They didn't always give us food. We
00:08:16and our children went to bed with empty stomachs. There
00:08:20were sick people among us. Several pregnant women gave
00:08:23birth during our captivity. For the families of the hostages,
00:08:25it's finally a relief after 6 months of anxiety.
00:08:29"We couldn't sleep or eat, our thoughts were
00:08:33monopolized by worry, especially for the children."
00:08:36The 308 victims had been held captive since February
00:08:39following several deadly attacks by armed groups in two
00:08:43northern states of the country, like this one in Kwara state
00:08:45during which more than 170
00:08:48people were killed and the village reduced to ashes.
00:08:52The vast rescue operation on Thursday was carried out
00:08:55jointly by the armed forces, intelligence services, and
00:08:58police. Everyone was rescued alive. As you can see, there
00:09:02are only children and women here today, about forty are
00:09:06still in the hospital.
00:09:08Nigeria is struggling to contain armed attacks and kidnappings
00:09:14perpetrated by armed groups and jihadists who spread terror.
00:09:17The Nigerian president had
00:09:19attributed responsibility for the
00:09:21main attack in February to the Islamist movement Boko Haram,
00:09:25a term also used. France 24,
00:09:29LCP, public senat presents,
00:09:33thank you for joining us in Brussels at the European
00:09:37Parliament. We breathe, drink and ingest daily
00:09:40harmful microparticles for our health. These are
00:09:43epiphas or eternal pollutants, used for their non-stick
00:09:46properties, their resistance to
00:09:49water or heat. Epiphas are in fact omnipresent in
00:09:53the products we use, cosmetics, kitchen utensils, to clothing.
00:09:5710,000 substances of this type are listed. They take
00:10:00a very long time to decompose, are not recyclable, hence their
00:10:03common name of eternal pollutant. And last March, a report by the
00:10:06European Chemicals Agency warned about their danger to
00:10:10our health, eternal pollutants causing cancer and reproductive
00:10:28problems. While 100,000 industrial sites in Europe release these epiphas, this
00:10:45report recommends a broad ban on these substances,
00:10:48but the health, tech, and energy industries fear a total
00:10:52ban and threaten to relocate for lack of credible alternatives.
00:10:55The European Commission favors a progressive restriction of
00:10:59epiphas, starting with everyday consumer products with a law
00:11:02expected by 2027. If nothing is done, at least the decontamination
00:11:05of eternal pollutants will cost European states up to 1700
00:11:09billion euros by 2050. So to discuss this today, we have
00:11:13with us two MEPs, Benoît Sard. Hello, you are Belgian,
00:11:16a member of the Renew group in the center of the hemicycle, a farmer
00:11:19by profession, and with you today Marie Toussaint. Hello.
00:11:23French Green MEP Marie Toussaint. Epiphas
00:11:26is one of the most serious public health problems of our
00:11:30century, yes, it is certainly the health bomb of our century.
00:11:34It has effects on health. We estimate around 16 million
00:11:38Europeans today are affected in their health because of
00:11:41these pollutants. Several tens
00:11:45So it's estimated of course premature deaths and pollutants
00:11:48that are eternal that we find everywhere up to the summit of
00:11:52the Himalayas because well it circulates through the...
00:11:56yes the clouds and it is notably due to the deployment
00:11:58of these extremely polluting microorganisms, epiphas,
00:12:02eternal pollutants that we have exceeded one of the planetary
00:12:06limits which is that of drinking water which is no longer
00:12:09drinkable in terms of rainwater anywhere around the planet so
00:12:14to well to get out of it simply and precisely with territories
00:12:18in Europe also that are contaminated by these eternal
00:12:21pollutants notably in France in certain villages
00:12:24of the Ardèche or... last it was discovered
00:12:27a high contamination of tap water and we are going to
00:12:30watch the reaction of the inhabitants at the time. People are worried,
00:12:33everyone says oh my God can I wash my vegetables, can I brush
00:12:37my teeth with water, what should I do? Apparently
00:12:40this pollution has been going on for many years,
00:12:44we are talking about twenty years.
00:12:47We realize from reading all the scientific studies
00:12:51health consequences are numerous. Especially over the years,
00:12:55as the intoxication accumulates, we are talking about miscarriages,
00:12:58malformations, and autoimmune diseases. Benoît Cassar,
00:13:02in this village in the Meuse, industrial sludge from the nearby
00:13:05factory was used in agriculture. As a farmer, you must have also
00:13:08heard a lot about similar contamination, notably in
00:13:12Belgium, indeed, in 2023 there was a
00:13:16contamination of the water consumed by the inhabitants
00:13:19which came from an industry in Flanders and the transmission
00:13:22of information took some
00:13:25time, there was a bit of
00:13:28of our leaders at the time and it dragged on and then
00:13:32after a few months it came out in the press and the inhabitants
00:13:35realized that they had for a certain period of time
00:13:39ingested water that was not compliant with the
00:13:43regulations, following this, measures were taken to decontaminate
00:13:45the water, notably with
00:13:48activated carbon and then charcoal, sorry, and then
00:13:51subsequently everything was regulated, everything was put
00:13:55back in place correctly,
00:14:00which we must find solutions, whether at European level
00:14:03or at national or regional level for monitoring.
00:14:06Marie Toussaint, this eternal pollutant contamination
00:14:10lasts for years and affects populations. The European
00:14:13Chemicals Agency report is alarmist, but perhaps a little
00:14:17late. Obviously, but I want to come back to
00:14:20one of the things Mr. Cassar said, because he says, everything
00:14:23is back to normal. I don't know what normal is,
00:14:26today normal is contamination by pollutants that we call
00:14:29eternal, there's a reason for that, it doesn't just last a few
00:14:33years, it's several centuries and in reality we don't even
00:14:37know with the treatment processes for water,
00:14:40we don't know how to completely eliminate them and PFAS are
00:14:43also in the food we eat, so it's not just tap water,
00:14:47but also what we eat, they are in everyday products and they
00:14:51are also in the soil which is much longer to decontaminate
00:14:53and we don't know yet how to do it, after you ask the
00:14:57question. Why are we reacting so late? What is happening?
00:15:00So first the European Agency for chemicals is reacting
00:15:04now because it was seized in 2023 by six
00:15:07European countries, five from the European Union plus Norway,
00:15:11but also Sweden, Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, to say
00:15:15but wait, there's a major health and environmental
00:15:19problem, we should go towards a ban and so the European Agency
00:15:23took up the subject and answers us today, but
00:15:26we know that these eternal pollutants are toxic since
00:15:29the 50s, 60s. In any case, the industries that produce
00:15:33them, BASF, Bayer, the chemical giants have known for decades,
00:15:37but as on other subjects, as on asbestos, as on chlorodecone,
00:15:41as on so many other subjects, the studies have been hidden,
00:15:45they have been kept by the industries themselves who have instead
00:15:48produced other industrial studies in Europe incidentally who are
00:15:52concerned by this pollution and this enormous use of PFAS,
00:15:56it's enormous and we continue to see there on the study that
00:16:00was carried out the consultation by the European Chemicals
00:16:03Agency in 2023 several thousand documents from the chemical
00:16:07industries to claim that these products are not or are hardly
00:16:11harmful, we are facing a massive lobbying. So Benoît,
00:16:14since January the European Union has limited to
00:16:170.1 micrograms per liter the threshold of about twenty
00:16:21PFAS in water. MEPs have also voted for PFAS thresholds
00:16:24in food packaging and toys from 2030. Is the awareness
00:16:28sufficient and quick enough? Awareness is much older than
00:16:32that since as early as 2004, the Stockholm Conference,
00:16:35the Stockholm Convention established a list of the most toxic
00:16:39and most resistant pollutants and since that time,
00:16:432006, with the implementation of the REACH regulation, these
00:16:47products have been banned and gradually we are moving
00:16:50in the right direction since later we saw that in other
00:16:54specific sectors such as food or
00:16:57consumer water, the standards have tightened,
00:17:01but the trend is good, awareness is there, but we must
00:17:05not believe that it is simple and I do not like caricatures,
00:17:09I believe that in politics we must be nuanced and know
00:17:13that there are important consequences of the ban on PFAS, for
00:17:16example if we take areas
00:17:17such as renewable energy
00:17:20to which Ms. Toussaint is very sensitive, but in
00:17:24solar panels or in heat pumps which are
00:17:28very recent alternatives at a time when fossil
00:17:31energy will be scarce and become very expensive,
00:17:34there is a need to use PFAS, so there are always
00:17:37advantages and disadvantages, of course we must try to
00:17:40find alternative solutions to evolve, but it's not
00:17:43as simple as snapping your fingers, Marie Toussaint,
00:17:47a response, it would be too simple to ban all eternal
00:17:51pollutants tomorrow for our economy. So there are three
00:17:54types of PFAS, so it's a family of 10 to 12,000
00:17:57products. There are three types of PFAS: non-essential
00:18:01PFAS, I'll come back to that, substitutable PFAS, and
00:18:04essential PFAS. I want to take this opportunity to commend the
00:18:07remarkable work of an association called Notre Affaire à Tous,
00:18:10which is doing a very big report on the Lyon metropolitan
00:18:14area on these products, their uses. We can discuss
00:18:17it, of course, there is a political debate and
00:18:23again of the chemical lobbies, but what we consider is that
00:18:27all non-essential PFAS can be banned from consumption
00:18:30but also from production on these famous thousands of
00:18:34contaminated sites today in products must be banned
00:18:37as quickly as possible and in fact when we look at the
00:18:40only truly essential products for which PFAS
00:18:44are needed are products from medicine and be careful
00:18:47when I say essential that doesn't mean that in 5 or
00:18:5010 years they will still be needed and
00:18:54so on. Very quickly on substitution
00:18:57products and here I ask a question and I also share
00:19:01with Mr. Today there are countries like China that are
00:19:04investing enormously to find substitution products, while
00:19:08European or American companies are rather closing ranks and
00:19:11spending more money to prevent their release than money on
00:19:15substitution products and therefore there is a risk of losing
00:19:19competitiveness. Total ban except, except indeed,
00:19:22pharmaceutical. I'm glad Ms. Toussaint brought up
00:19:26China because that's exactly what we're seeing today. This
00:19:30regulation I mentioned, which already exists here,
00:19:34also exists in the United States and Japan. It does not exist
00:19:38in countries with which we have trade agreements, such as
00:19:41India, China, or Brazil. So at some point, the challenge
00:19:45is to say, if we ban it here immediately,
00:19:50products where these standards do not exist, as we see today
00:19:54in Belgium, for example, 1 billion packages arrive from
00:19:58China each year. We no
00:20:01longer know how to deal with that. There is no control
00:20:05or almost no control over these products. I'm not a fan of
00:20:08comms, but it's really a good example because at some
00:20:12point, if we want to go too fast in too brutal a way
00:20:15here, we will destroy our economy, and we cannot do that either,
00:20:18because behind our economy there is also the health of
00:20:22consumers, there is also the possibility of evolving towards
00:20:26a better environment. So it's good to be a leader, it's
00:20:29very good to be a leader, but we must first make those who
00:20:33supply the market respect it, have the means to do
00:20:36so, find substitution products, and all this must be done
00:20:40coherently. If we lose that coherence, it's economic
00:20:43suicide. I admire the ideal of the Greens,
00:20:47but at some point a little economic realism is necessary
00:20:51too. That's why I was talking about competitiveness because
00:20:54realism is also seeing that, as with renewable energy
00:20:58and electric cars, China has taken the lead.
00:21:02So the question facing the European economy today is, do we want
00:21:06to be behind, clinging to technologies of the past,
00:21:10or move forward? But we agree with Mr. Cassar that
00:21:13we should not subject European workers or farmers
00:21:17to unfair competition. That's important. However,
00:21:20we disagree on the conclusion. What we say is that we must
00:21:24have high ambitions and ensure that others also have high
00:21:28ambitions. We don't say that because others do anything,
00:21:32like slavery and polluting products, that we should have
00:21:35the same economic model as others. I think, on the contrary,
00:21:39yes, but if we take the argument to the bottom of the slide,
00:21:43that's where we end up. So what we say, on the contrary,
00:21:46is let's make Europe a pioneer of ecological transition,
00:21:50of benevolence towards its citizens. Once again, it's
00:21:54about our health, and that way we will take the rest of
00:21:58the world with us. Benoît Sard,
00:22:01complicated.
00:22:04soumettre soumettre les travailleurs ou les agriculteurs agricultrices
00:22:08européennes à une concurrence déloyale, ça c'est important, par contre on n'est pas d'accord sur la
00:22:11conclusion, nous ce qu'on dit c'est il faut avoir des ambitions élevées et faire en
00:22:15sorte que les autres et eux aussi des ambitions élevées, on dit pas comme les autres font
00:22:19n'importe quoi. et de l'esclavage et des produits polluants et n'importe quoi
00:22:22alors il faut qu'on ait le même modèle économique que les autres je pense qu'au contraire au
00:22:26contraire oui mais c'est si on tire l'argument si on va en bas du du toboggan c'est
00:22:29là où arrive donc ce qu'on dit au contraire c'est faisons de l'Europe un
00:22:33pionnière de la transition écologique du de la bienveillance sur
00:22:36ses citoyennes et ses citoyens encore une fois c'est notre santé et comme ça on entraînera
00:22:40le reste du monde avec nous benossar la dépollution elle est compliquée techniquement très
00:22:44costly according to the report of the European chemical agency, it
00:22:47would amount to at least if we legislate. from now on
00:22:51300 billion euros, that's still
00:22:56European Union, and if we fair to 1700 billion
00:22:59then where do we find the money? Do we have to tax polluters?
00:23:03But the problem is that we must do things in order, the
00:23:07first thing is to stop the source by finding
00:23:11other means of production by finding
00:23:14substitution methods and then gradually
00:23:18depollute but if... we do everything at the same time right away,
00:23:22who has the means, it's easier to say the polluter pays, I can share
00:23:26the philosophy, but today if we bombard
00:23:29companies, citizens with taxes at a time when purchasing
00:23:33power is complicated for citizens and companies
00:23:36are in increasingly complicated global competition
00:23:40with Chinese dumping with taxes in America we kill the system
00:23:44so we have to do things realistically Marie Toussaint, should
00:23:47we apply the polluter pays principle? That is, tax industrialists
00:23:50who do not respect the PFAS standards or should we let them
00:23:54invest in alternatives to these eternal pollutants? Well, I'm quite
00:23:58surprised by what Mr. Cassard says because we co-signed a written question together to
00:24:01precisely say that local authorities pay extremely dearly for the cost of
00:24:05depollution and that it was not necessarily up to them to do it so I am quite surprised but
00:24:08indeed two things, firstly it comes back to the previous question, charity
00:24:12begins at home and secondly there is
00:24:15a responsibility and responsibility must
00:24:18be applied. We cannot say all day long, you have to be
00:24:22responsible for your actions when talking about individuals and say but companies
00:24:25must not be responsible for their actions. There are industrialists who have had
00:24:28knowledge of the damages, the harmful effects of eternal
00:24:32pollutants since the 1960s, once again, this was demonstrated by Robert
00:24:36Bilot in a major trial held in the United States which is the subject of a film that
00:24:39popularized the subject of PFAS, Dark Waters in 2017, thanks to
00:24:43this trial, information was obtained, they have known for more than 50 years, and
00:24:47so at some point they are responsible for having continued to develop. the products, having
00:24:50developed them in proportion and also in number of products concerned,
00:24:54and at some point they must pay for what they have done for the
00:24:58technological choices they have made, I understand that it is difficult,
00:25:02that it will indeed raise economic questions, that it must
00:25:05be organized, but you know, I am
00:25:10the polluter pays principle. The reality is that we should not go through taxes, we should go
00:25:14before courts, but then the sums would be so colossal that it would indeed destroy
00:25:17the economy, so as politicians we must find a way to get out of it by
00:25:21preserving jobs and acting in the general
00:25:24interest. Moreover, Benoît Cassard, is the problem not also within
00:25:28this assembly? We can clearly see that there is an operation by the European
00:25:32People's Party in agreement with a more radical right to
00:25:36unravel all the environmental protection standards
00:25:40uh the Green Deal specifically for
00:25:43industrialists in the name of competitiveness. I believe that in the
00:25:47previous mandate in which I was not... took
00:25:51radically green options that proved to be
00:25:54inapplicable on the ground, a law that is not
00:25:57applicable is not good, ideals are very
00:26:00good, regulations. For achievements, it's very good, but if they are
00:26:04inapplicable, they don't succeed, they are useless in the end
00:26:07except to waste time, so today we must find a
00:26:11balance between the very noble objectives of the previous
00:26:14mandate, with a realistic implementation that
00:26:18takes into account environmental, economic and
00:26:21social aspects, what I find quite crazy with this type of argument, is that
00:26:24in fact the realism is that climate change is destroying
00:26:28the economy, he has one of the prices of young economists who showed that it was
00:26:32several. finally that it was hundreds of times the
00:26:34world's GDP finally that it cost a crazy amount of money,
00:26:38but realism would be to let it happen and to let climate change continue,
00:26:42the PEs said 2000 billion, 2000 billion is gigantic for
00:26:46the economic cost of pollution and we are told that
00:26:49realism would be to continue in the PFAS, excuse me, but whatever
00:26:53angles we take, the logic would be to respect planetary limits
00:26:56to return to respecting nature, that doesn't mean going back to the candle, it means trying to find a
00:27:00way to protect everyone. including economic actors, otherwise who will
00:27:04pay the cost of all the current disasters, we agree that we must find a
00:27:07way and we will end on these words,
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00:30:12current events, at the top, the death toll is rising in
00:30:16Ukraine, four dead in the massive bombings overnight on Kyiv
00:30:20and its region, Volodymyr Zelensky denounced the use
00:30:23of ballistic missiles against civilian
00:30:26infrastructure. Moscow claims the attacks but says it targeted a
00:30:30fuel depot and a weapons factory. These attacks
00:30:34come as the Ukrainian president makes his first visit to
00:30:37Serbia, an ally of
00:30:39Russia.
00:30:41There's trouble between Madrid and Rome, Spain
00:30:45announces it will implement border controls for travelers
00:30:48from Italy, identical retaliatory measures to
00:30:52those Rome had established following the Ceuta