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00:00:00to Sunday in the Journal de l'Afrique on France
00:00:05menstrual blood being polluting and of 24. You are still on France 24,
00:00:09thank you for being with us, it is 7pm in Paris, an opportunity to take a new
00:00:12world tour of the news, on the front page, the death toll
00:00:16in Ukraine is rising, four dead in the massive bombings of the
00:00:19night on Kiev and its region. Volodymyr
00:00:22Zelensky denounced the use of ballistic missiles against
00:00:25civilian infrastructure. Moscow claims the attacks but
00:00:29says it targeted a... fuel depot and an arms
00:00:31factory, attacks
00:00:34two allies of the European Union, two allies of that occur, as you can see, while the Ukrainian president is making his
00:00:36first visit to Serbia, a traditional ally of
00:00:39Russia.
00:00:43continue, but it is especially within There is tension between Madrid and Rome, Spain announces it will implement
00:00:46border controls for travelers from
00:00:50Italy, a retaliatory measure identical to the one Rome had
00:00:53established after the Ceuta crisis, we will
00:00:56decipher this diplomatic crisis with...
00:01:00Bruno Darou with us on set
00:01:04and then these first testimonies collected in Nigeria, last Thursday, more
00:01:07than 300 people were released after abductions in
00:01:11two northern states in February, among them
00:01:15children who, as you will see, recount the ordeal they
00:01:19opposition makes it the symbol of endured for months.
00:01:33The toll is therefore worsening in Ukraine, four dead in new
00:01:37massive bombings on the capital Kiev and its region, a toll
00:01:40given this afternoon by President Volodymyr Zelensky who
00:01:44denounced the use of ballistic missiles against
00:01:47civilian infrastructure. For its part, the Kremlin claims the attacks, but
00:01:52Spain's exclusion from the says it targeted fuel depots and an arms factory,
00:01:55andtanaji for the
00:01:56details.
00:02:00The bodies of the victims are being removed from the scene under the stunned
00:02:04gaze of residents, from this
00:02:06residential area in the Kiev region, all that remains are
00:02:10debris and charred cars. Here,
00:02:13Russian bombardments have killed several people including a child, a
00:02:17dozen injured and survivors in a state of
00:02:19shock. Our doors and windows were
00:02:22blown off, I immediately checked if my husband was
00:02:25alive, because he was in another room. We went
00:02:29out, and everything had already burned, my husband rushed to
00:02:32get water to put out the fire, but
00:02:35in vain, the neighbors came out to try to save a young
00:02:38child, but they didn't find him. All this
00:02:42week, Kiev and its region have suffered a deluge of fire,
00:02:46convent, escaped from intense nocturnal Russian bombardments and an Ukrainian anti-aircraft
00:02:50defense, unable to shoot down a single missile due to
00:02:54lack of interceptors. In the capital, the military
00:02:58administration called on residents to go to shelters to escape Russian
00:03:02ballistic missiles. Faced with the
00:03:04difficulties Ukraine is facing, Volodymyr
00:03:07Zelensky is working on the diplomatic front to maintain the
00:03:11support of his allies, and even that of countries like
00:03:14Serbia, traditionally close to
00:03:17Moscow. We are developing all forms of
00:03:20cooperation likely to give our cities and our
00:03:23communities greater resilience and a better
00:03:27ability to face all the challenges of war. We
00:03:30welcome this humanitarian aid from Serbia,
00:03:34particularly in the areas of health and energy. A
00:03:38rapprochement between Kiev and
00:03:39towards Italy, especially the famous island of Belgrade, which is not to the Kremlin's liking. In May
00:03:432025, Russian intelligence was already accusing Serbian
00:03:46arms companies of selling ammunition to
00:03:49Ukraine via third
00:03:51countries.
00:03:54And then we learned late this morning, a drone that entered Bulgaria this
00:03:57Saturday morning exploded near the border with Romania and
00:04:01especially near a gas pipeline that connects Turkey to
00:04:04Ukraine through the Balkans, you will see it on this map, a Ukrainian
00:04:08drone, Kiev says in recent minutes that it has not launched
00:04:12any device deliberately but promises to clarify the
00:04:16four dead in the massive bombings of circumstances of the incident, the aircraft was carrying
00:04:19significant explosive charges, Sofia announces it has
00:04:22summoned the Ukrainian
00:04:24ambassador.
00:04:28In the rest of the news in Europe. The diplomatic struggle
00:04:31is intensifying between Rome and Madrid, Spain announces
00:04:36Serbia, a traditional ally of that it is establishing temporary border controls for travelers from
00:04:39Italy, controls began at midnight this Saturday Paris
00:04:42time, listen to the testimony of these travelers who were
00:04:46controlled before their arrival in Spain.
00:04:49I come from Poland to Italy and yes, police
00:04:54controls are rather
00:04:57unusual.
00:05:15nobody asked for a passport and nobody stopped us to check the contents of our
00:05:18bags. No, I don't like this situation,
00:05:22it's a bit too chaotic, I don't really like
00:05:25it.
00:05:28And to discuss this European diplomatic crisis, I am pleased
00:05:31to welcome Bruno Darou back to the set, international
00:05:34columnist at France 24, Bruno, there is tension between
00:05:38the Spanish socialist government and the far-right leader
00:05:41Giorgia. uh Meloni, a crisis between
00:05:46NATO, which could have repercussions on these institutions, yes,
00:05:50especially NATO, that may be in the longer term if the crisis were to
00:05:56the European Union, the President of the European Commission Rola Vonderlayen
00:05:59did everything after this crisis of Ceuta which,
00:06:03let's remember, ended well, since out of the 62,000
00:06:07migrants, the Spanish managed to return 7,000,
00:06:10that's 97%. So, certainly out of the more than 100 who
00:06:14remain, there are many unaccompanied minors, that raises
00:06:18a whole host of problems, you mentioned it with your
00:06:21guest a few minutes ago, but still,
00:06:24overall, Spain managed this crisis quite well, in
00:06:28collaboration, even if relations are sometimes a bit complicated with
00:06:32Morocco, but then from the start, it was Giorgia Meloni who
00:06:35somewhat instrumentalized this crisis, accusing Prime Minister Pedro
00:06:39Sanchez of being lax. She even made a link
00:06:42between the rather significant regularizations granted by Pedro Sanchez
00:06:46regarding these migrants and the current crisis, saying,
00:06:50"Well, you see, that attracts your policy means that there are more and
00:06:54more young migrants from
00:06:57Africa who want to reach Europe."
00:07:01And so she called for
00:07:04Schengen area, which legally, in any case, is impossible
00:07:08under European texts. So she took this temporary measure, because that is allowed,
00:07:13to strengthen border controls for travelers from
00:07:16Spain. Well, tit for tat, Madrid first asked
00:07:20Rome to lift these controls and, as that was not done,
00:07:24it has therefore established, since a few hours ago, these controls for
00:07:27passengers from Italy. So there is a diplomatic
00:07:31crisis, but beyond the facts, if you will, we must see that there is a kind of
00:07:34competition between Giorgia Meloni, representative of a
00:07:37very extreme right, shall we say, but
00:07:40in competition in Italy with a rising figure of the right who
00:07:44is even more radical than her, so since there are general elections in
00:07:482027, she is trying to show herself to be extremely firm, there is this aspect
00:07:52of internal politics that was underlined by the Spanish
00:07:55authorities in a communiqué, without mentioning Mrs. Meloni's name,
00:07:59obviously, there is also the fact that these two
00:08:03countries, Italy and Spain, are countries of first entry, as
00:08:06they say, for these migrations and that there is therefore a form of ideological
00:08:10competition since Pedro Sanchez is a socialist and Mrs.
00:08:14Meloni is on the far right on
00:08:17the nature of the type of migratory policy that should be adopted
00:08:21and Mrs. Meloni would like to appear as the toughest, the firmest and the one who has the best
00:08:24answers to this migratory policy, Pedro Sanchez, for his part,
00:08:28remains steadfast in his more humanist policy which he
00:08:31considers more effective and therefore more human, so there
00:08:35is this very political tug-of-war,
00:08:38left versus far-right, so the problem for Mrs. Meloni is that...
00:08:42uh well her migratory record is not
00:08:45extraordinary because well the route
00:08:48that comes from North Africa
00:08:52Lampedusa, well in fact this route has not dried
00:08:55up at all since Mrs. Meloni came to power
00:08:59and it remains one of the most deadly routes
00:09:01concerning these migrations, thank you very much Bruno
00:09:04Darou, we will obviously continue to follow this situation and this nascent
00:09:08diplomatic crisis between Spain and.
00:09:12Heading to the United States, Donald Trump has his man at the
00:09:16head of American justice, Tote Blanche, his former
00:09:19personal lawyer, was appointed by a very narrow
00:09:23majority by the American Senate, 50 votes against 49, two
00:09:27Republican senators voted against the nomination of Donald Trump's
00:09:30trusted man, who notably helped to make the
00:09:34Department of Justice an extension of the White House,
00:09:37"I act under the direction of the American president,"
00:09:40declared the one who was... of Pambondi in recent years, the former
00:09:44Minister of Justice dismissed after
00:09:47her handling of the Epstein affair, since then it's Tote Blanche who
00:09:50has been acting as interim and he has notably launched numerous prosecutions against Donald Trump's
00:09:54alleged enemies causing massive
00:09:57departures of career
00:10:00prosecutors.
00:10:02American justice, not yet entirely in
00:10:06Donald Trump's hands, the Court of Appeals of the District of Columbia
00:10:09confirms the suspension of the project of a ballroom at the White
00:10:13House, the work had already been stopped by a judge
00:10:17last April, for lack of a green light from Congress, a national
00:10:20shame according to the American president Romain
00:10:23Michelot.
00:10:26"Will the White House ballroom ever see the light of day?
00:10:30This project dear to Donald Trump, whose construction began at the end of
00:10:332025, has just been blocked again by American
00:10:36justice. The District of Columbia Court of Appeals
00:10:40confirmed a decision from last April, the work must
00:10:43cease because it was launched without the green light from Congress,
00:10:46essential for such a project at the White House, a new
00:10:50setback for Donald Trump who defends this
00:10:53project tooth and nail. a decision taken while a large part of the
00:10:57work has already been carried out and paid for constitutes a
00:11:00threat to national security of maximum
00:11:03gravity. It is also a national
00:11:05shame. We will immediately appeal this
00:11:09decision before the Supreme Court of the United States. This
00:11:12ballroom of more than 8300 square meters with a capacity of
00:11:16100 people is financed by private funds according to the American
00:11:19president. But the budget has already soared from 200
00:11:23to 400 million dollars. Today, Donald Trump
00:11:26justifies this project and assures that the building will contain other
00:11:29military defense devices, but it is very
00:11:32decried, the National Trust for Historic
00:11:35Preservation, an NGO for the preservation of historic
00:11:39buildings, challenged it in court, the Democratic
00:11:44the president's ego.
00:11:47These are projects dictated by vanity and the president would
00:11:50literally dedicate 70% of his time to it. The president
00:11:54is a very busy person, he has a lot of things
00:11:58he needs to pay attention to, including the war in
00:12:00Iran. This project is not unanimous within
00:12:04the Republican party either. Donald Trump's government now has
00:12:0814 days to appeal
00:12:09before the American Supreme Court.
00:12:13These are the first testimonies we are receiving from Nigeria. Last
00:12:17Thursday, the country's security forces rescued 308
00:12:20people who had been abducted during separate attacks in two northern
00:12:24states. Among the survivors are children,
00:12:27today, they recount the ordeal they have endured since their
00:12:31abduction last February. Axel
00:12:34Simon: women and children still
00:12:37traumatized, they were rescued on Thursday by Nigerian
00:12:41security forces and are now waiting to return
00:12:44home. They were among the 308 people abducted last
00:12:48February in two northern Nigerian states. Today,
00:12:51some bear witness to the ordeal they went through.
00:12:56every time a plane approached, they ordered us to put out the fires we had lit and to
00:13:00remain absolutely silent so as not to be spotted, they
00:13:03didn't always give us food, we and our children went to bed with empty
00:13:07stomachs, there were sick people among
00:13:10us, several pregnant women gave birth during our
00:13:14captivity,
00:13:16for the families of the hostages, it's finally relief after 6 months
00:13:19of anguish,
00:13:22we couldn't sleep or eat. Our thoughts were
00:13:25monopolized by worry, especially for the
00:13:27children.
00:13:29The 308 victims had been held in captivity since February following
00:13:33several deadly attacks carried out by armed groups in two northern
00:13:37states, such as this one in Kuara state, during which more than
00:13:41170 people were killed and the village reduced to ashes. The
00:13:45large rescue operation on Thursday was carried out jointly by
00:13:48the armed forces, intelligence services and the
00:13:51police. Everyone has been rescued.
00:13:58As you can see, there are only children and women here
00:14:01today, about forty are still in
00:14:04hospital. Nigeria is struggling to curb armed attacks and abductions
00:14:08perpetrated by armed groups and jihadists who sow
00:14:11terror. The Nigerian president had attributed the
00:14:14responsibility for the main attack in February to the Islamist movement
00:14:18Boko Haram, a term also used generically
00:14:21to refer to jihadist groups in Nigeria.
00:14:26That's it for this edition, thank you for watching, the information continues on France 24.
00:14:46Hello everyone and welcome to Ractuelle,
00:14:50Myanmar has decided to ban menstrual
00:14:53protection on its territory. A decision by the army to
00:14:57fight against rebels opposed to the military
00:15:00junta, we will talk about it in a moment with my guest Henriette
00:15:04Serak. And then the nuns are rebelling in
00:15:08Austria, three retired nuns broke out to leave their nursing home
00:15:11and return to their beloved
00:15:13convent.
00:15:17The junta in power in Myanmar has decided to ban
00:15:20sanitary pads, what the military blames them for
00:15:24is. to serve as makeshift bandages for rebels and therefore as
00:15:28such to be undesirable in the country. The
00:15:31military power returned after a coup in
00:15:342021, so it decided to ban menstrual
00:15:37protections, since 15 million women are
00:15:41left without solutions every month. To talk
00:15:44about it, I am pleased to welcome Henriette Serrac
00:15:47from Abidjan, Côte d'Ivoire, you are on a mission, hello Henriette, you are
00:15:51a menstrual health consultant and you founded
00:15:54Pankalai in Myanmar, which is an organization that produces safe
00:15:58sanitary pads but was forced to close a few
00:16:01years ago, Henriette, when the
00:16:04junta issued this ban on... sanitary
00:16:07protection on its territory, is it really convinced by what it says, that is, that
00:16:11the pads are used to treat the rebels' injuries or is it
00:16:15a pretext according to
00:16:16you?
00:16:20I think it's a pretext, I think nobody takes this excuse
00:16:24seriously, it's totally fantastical, uh you
00:16:27can't imagine that a pad could seriously serve
00:16:30as a compress in a
00:16:34war context, what is much more probable in fact. is
00:16:37that in this phase of the civil war, it's a very long civil war, but it's true that since
00:16:41the coup of 2021 it has intensified
00:16:44and a characteristic of this new phase of the civil
00:16:48war is that women have joined the ranks of the
00:16:51resistance in numbers and so what seems much more probable is that
00:16:55the military junta had this idea in fact to
00:16:58limit the ability of these
00:17:01resistance fighters to participate in the
00:17:04war but in fact it affects indeed all women, women.
00:17:07it is a fraction of Burmese
00:17:11women and in fact this prohibition impacts
00:17:14all Burmese women and girls, it means
00:17:17that their ability to travel, to go to school, to go
00:17:20to work will be significantly
00:17:23affected, uh it will
00:17:26exclude them socially for about a week a month
00:17:30for those of childbearing age, uh it will also
00:17:34create a lot of shame, a lot of stigmatization,
00:17:37periods in fact are a very stigmatized subject in the
00:17:40context of Burmese culture and
00:17:43so preventing them from managing their
00:17:46menstruation properly will
00:17:49in fact place an even greater taboo, a greater
00:17:52shame on these women, concretely that
00:17:56means that there are no more sanitary protections entering Burmese
00:17:59territory, that means there is a shortage, are there still
00:18:03alternatives for these women who have their periods every
00:18:06month? In fact, what we don't know
00:18:10very well is the scale of this
00:18:12prohibition, a priori it is
00:18:16certain in certain regions where the resistance is
00:18:19especially strong, particularly the Mandalay region, the Sagaing
00:18:23region,
00:18:25we don't know, in fact it's very complicated to have
00:18:29reliable data on this subject
00:18:32right now, uh but therefore at least in
00:18:35several regions. Myanmar, that's the case, uh, what we can imagine again, is that finally
00:18:39in fact what we even know
00:18:43with certainty, is that as a result, there is a whole
00:18:46black market developing with the
00:18:50price of menstrual packages that
00:18:53is increasing wildly, there
00:18:57are also therefore pads that will be of poorer quality that will
00:19:01penetrate via the black market on the Burmese
00:19:04market, uh but the most probable thing really is that women will therefore
00:19:08go back a little bit to what their mothers, their grandmothers did, that is to say, they will use
00:19:12old longis, the longi is the traditional
00:19:16Burmese jute that is worn by the vast majority
00:19:19of Burmese women, they will use these old fabrics
00:19:23uh to roll them up or fix them
00:19:27in a homemade way uh to absorb
00:19:30their blood. What are the health risks
00:19:33when they are makeshift sanitary protections like
00:19:37the ones you just described rather than those that can be used, thrown away and
00:19:40bought again?
00:19:44It is documented, very well documented across the world,
00:19:47that uh girls and
00:19:50women who use makeshift systems
00:19:53are twice as exposed
00:19:56to urinary infections and reproductive tract
00:20:00infections uh which themselves can generate
00:20:03more serious infections, sometimes uh that are life-threatening.
00:20:07Uh and which are also uh linked to very
00:20:11high risks of infertility. You
00:20:14mentioned earlier the taboo that it represents to talk about periods,
00:20:18to have periods in Myanmar, but it is quite widespread in the world
00:20:22uh and especially in Asia, I think for example of Nepal where women
00:20:25must isolate themselves for a week during their periods in a hut so as not
00:20:29to pollute the rest of the village, why do you think
00:20:32uh such a fear of menstruation and why in this region of the
00:20:36world in particular?
00:20:40The taboo of periods is almost universal, it is true
00:20:44that in traditions, in Hindu traditions and therefore
00:20:48in certain regions of Nepal to... which you are referring,
00:20:51it is true that this idea of
00:20:55the menstruating woman being polluting, uh that is very
00:20:59strong in the Hindu tradition, but in fact what is very interesting
00:21:02is to realize that most cultures, most
00:21:06religions have their version of this taboo, of this
00:21:09stigmatization around menstruation, uh
00:21:13it is, well, it is something that is almost universal,
00:21:16uh Myanmar is a predominantly Buddhist country,
00:21:20they have their version of this
00:21:23stigmatization too, it is justified slightly differently, there
00:21:27are nuances, but it is something that we find in fact in most
00:21:31cultures, particularly traditional cultures. Do you think
00:21:35there are solutions to counter this ban in Myanmar? Will this ban
00:21:39hold, this ban on sanitary
00:21:42protection?
00:21:44We must talk about it, I am very happy to see that the media
00:21:48are taking up this... story which is
00:21:51truly shocking, uh we must absolutely talk about it,
00:21:55we must uh support organizations on the ground in
00:21:58Myanmar, I what makes me happy on the other hand,
00:22:02is that it's an opportunity to talk about what's happening, to talk about the civil war in
00:22:06Myanmar, about the military dictatorship uh in which the Burmese
00:22:10people have been living for 5 years uh and particularly about the condition
00:22:13of women, in this context, women are truly the first
00:22:16victims of this civil war, of this junta. uh
00:22:20which is extremely cruel, obscurantist and misogynistic, it's a
00:22:24metaphor in fact for the
00:22:27lack uh of access to menstrual products which in fact
00:22:30affects a very large proportion of
00:22:34women and girls worldwide, it is estimated that 500 million girls and women worldwide
00:22:38do not have access to pads, to menstrual
00:22:41products uh every month, uh and it is not
00:22:45only a problem in the countries uh of the global south, in
00:22:49France in... in rich countries, in quotation
00:22:51marks, we also see problems, that is to say there are 2 million,
00:22:55it is an estimate of around 2 million women in
00:22:58France who who every month do not manage
00:23:02to meet their needs in terms of menstrual products, there is really a huge
00:23:06amount of work that we can all do to fight against this taboo, this
00:23:09stigmatization to allow women to be
00:23:13in better health, beyond the ban,
00:23:16indeed the question of menstrual precariousness is very important, thank you very much.
00:23:21for this insight into the situation in
00:23:22Myanmar,
00:23:25"what a woman wants, God wants," says the saying, and it is apparently true if we are to
00:23:29believe the adventure of these retired people, not like the others, three nuns
00:23:33Austrian women who didn't want to leave their
00:23:36the nursing home where they had been placed against their will, a
00:23:39incredible scenario, this is a report by Lionel
00:23:43Feyerstein,
00:23:45the Austrian media affectionately call them the
00:23:49rebel nuns. Sister Rita 82, Sister
00:23:53Regina, 86 and Sister Bernadette, 88
00:23:57years old. Their story is worthy of a
00:24:00movie.
00:24:03A few months ago, they escaped from their retirement home
00:24:06to return to their beloved convent at the foot of the
00:24:10Alps.
00:24:16I am so happy to be back home at the convent, in this chapel.
00:24:20where all three of us took our vows, you can imagine, for me, it was in
00:24:241967.
00:24:27Two years ago, their superior, Provost Marcus
00:24:30Grassel, forcibly transferred them to this nursing home.
00:24:33According to him, the three sisters can no longer continue to live alone in their
00:24:37convent, but the nuns are depressed,
00:24:40feeling down, and don't want to stay. Last
00:24:43September, they decided to escape. Like my
00:24:47two sisters, I packed a few things in a small
00:24:50satchel,
00:24:53aided by former students they had in class at the convent, they jumped
00:24:56into a waiting car, the three runaway sisters escaped,
00:25:00we had called a locksmith to
00:25:04break the padlocks and open the doors of our convent and we succeeded,
00:25:08it was like a detective
00:25:10movie,
00:25:14their escape was a success, but their return was more
00:25:17bitter, during their 18 months of absence... their personal
00:25:20belongings had been removed, even this stairlift that has been
00:25:24replaced since.
00:25:27We had to climb like this, holding onto the railing and our arms.
00:25:30Imagine, there are eight floors here. Their
00:25:34hierarchy is furious but dares not do anything anymore. The story of their
00:25:38great escape has in the meantime moved everyone.
00:25:41Now, they are followed by thousands of people on social media. They
00:25:45even published a book titled "Not with
00:25:48us".
00:25:52to say that we fought against an injustice, because yes, what the church inflicted on us was unjust, when
00:25:56we say not with us, it means that our superiors deceived
00:26:00us and that we did not accept it.
00:26:03Today, the inhabitants of the village who mobilized for the
00:26:06return of the nuns and continue to help them are
00:26:09delighted,
00:26:11when I have a problem, their door is always
00:26:13open,
00:26:16they taught me an important thing, in life, you have to
00:26:19fight, at the end of April, they went to the
00:26:23Vatican to tell their story, Pope Leo
00:26:26XIV guaranteed them that they could now stay in their
00:26:29convent, they find it amusing, their faith. and their
00:26:32tenacity moved mountains and that's
00:26:36already the end of this edition, thank you for following us, see
00:26:40you soon on France
00:26:4124,
00:26:48it was not drought that led us to famine, but the Russians who
00:26:52took everything we had in the
00:26:53granary,
00:26:56they came with a big truck, I still see it, on it there were
00:27:00bags they had taken from other houses.
00:30:06You are still on France 24, thank you for being with us, it is 7 p.m. in
00:30:10Paris, the opportunity to take another tour of world news,
00:30:13at the top, the death toll is rising in Ukraine,
00:30:18the night on Kyiv and its region, Volodymyr
00:30:21Zelensky denounced the use of ballistic missiles against
00:30:24civilian infrastructure, Moscow claims responsibility for the attacks, but
00:30:28says it targeted a fuel depot and a weapons factory, these
00:30:31attacks... which occur, as you can see, as the Ukrainian president makes
00:30:35his first visit to Russia.
00:30:38Russie.
00:30:41Tensions are high between Madrid and Rome, Spain announces it will
00:30:45implement border controls for travelers from
00:30:49Italy, a retaliatory measure identical to the one Rome had
00:30:52implemented following the Ceuta crisis. We will
00:30:55decipher this diplomatic crisis with...