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00:00:00b but he has plans b and it's every week on France
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00:00:0710 p.m. in Paris, you're watching the essential news on France 24, good evening everyone,
00:00:10the far right again at the head of a regional election in Germany, the AFD
00:00:14is given as the winner in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, German Chancellor
00:00:17Friedrich Schmerz acknowledges a disaster for his party
00:00:21the CDU which only comes in 3rd position, we will talk about it with
00:00:25our guest Elisa Gouden Steinman, professors of Germanic
00:00:28studies and... Emmanuel Macron and Canadian Prime Minister
00:00:31Mark Carney in a one-on-one meeting in Saint-Pierre and Miquelon, the two leaders
00:00:36several floors of a residential building in say they want to strengthen ties between their two countries, two independent
00:00:38nations that want to remain so they specified, a clear message
00:00:42addressed to Donald Trump. Finally,
00:00:45Vladimir Putin's party, United Russia wins the legislative elections
00:00:49without surprise, an election disrupted by numerous drone
00:00:52attacks from Ukraine, Moscow promises in response
00:00:55to intensify its strikes against
00:00:57Kyiv.
00:01:12So we start with the results of two regional elections in Germany, 2
00:01:16weeks after the victory of the far right in Saxony-Anhalt, the AFD is
00:01:20again given as the leader in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. It is
00:01:24also making strong progress in Berlin, a crushing defeat
00:01:27for the CDU of Chancellor Fredrik Schmer. who speaks of a
00:01:31catastrophe, Jules
00:01:32Boêteau.
00:01:35Surrounded by his supporters, Leif Éric Holm here in the center of
00:01:39the image in a blue suit, can finally
00:01:41exult.
00:01:45than 4 and a half years after the start of The candidate of the far-right AFD party wins the regional elections
00:01:47in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.
00:01:49occidentale.
00:01:52It's a great evening for the AFD. We gained
00:01:5620 points compared to the last elections.
00:02:00mandate to govern here
00:02:02energy source, all of that created in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.
00:02:05govern this region of northeast Germany, if the AFD finds
00:02:09of Japanese pilots were ordered to allies to reach
00:02:10these Länder, these three Länder, a majority, because just behind are the Social Democrats of the
00:02:14SPD,
00:02:16against the West which far, very far from the CDU of Fredric Schmerz. At the announcement of the
00:02:20first results this Sunday evening, all eyes turned
00:02:23to the chancellery while a departure of the German leader in case of
00:02:26a debacle had been considered, but exceptionally.
00:02:51I personally take this responsibility because I want to move our
00:02:54country forward, a chancellor more weakened than ever but
00:02:58who remains in power. while in the other election of the day in
00:03:01Berlin, the CDU was also defeated by the radical left of
00:03:05Dilinke which could take the mayor's office from it in case of an alliance with other
00:03:09left-wing parties. An election also marked by
00:03:13the good score of the AFD which signs a good advance and
00:03:16its best historical result in the
00:03:18capital.
00:03:21And we are with Elisin Goudin, Steinman, good evening, you are
00:03:25professor of Germanic studies at Sorbonne Nouvelle University.
00:03:28To what extent is this... progression of the AFD at a regional
00:03:32level
00:03:33worrying?
00:03:37Well, it's worrying because it effectively weakens the government in Berlin, it's
00:03:41rare for regional elections to be so commented on even at an international
00:03:44level, but here, obviously, this progression
00:03:48of the far right has as a consequence
00:03:51that the Länder become difficult to govern
00:03:55and then and then well it's a party that's progressing but it's also
00:03:59the parties that are regressing and especially the CDU, the
00:04:03fact that the chancellor uses the word disaster and so on, that he
00:04:06tries to cut short rumors of replacement, that
00:04:09shows the national dimension
00:04:12of these two elections that took place today.
00:04:16To understand clearly at this stage, whether in
00:04:20Saxony-Anhalt or in Mecklenburg, the AfD certainly came out on top,
00:04:24but for now, it is by no means certain that it will take the
00:04:27reins of these Länder, is it? Exactly, the only place where she really has a chance to govern is in Saxanright,
00:04:31exactement, le seul endroit où elle a vraiment une chance de gouverner, c'est en
00:04:35in fact because there she was still quite close to
00:04:38the, she was not at an absolute majority but she was not very far, she
00:04:44from the problems and is only missing three seats and it may be, as it is a secret vote hein, that some
00:04:47elected officials from other parties from the CDU or the
00:04:51Arawagen Knight alliance vote in secret
00:04:54for the FD so she
00:04:57speech. He told could eventually govern, but even there it's not sure and in the other two...
00:05:00lender it's almost excluded, she's the first
00:05:02party,
00:05:05but she won't govern, how do you explain the huge surprise,
00:05:08how do you explain the reaction of German Chancellor Fredric
00:05:12Schmerz? who acknowledges a disaster, a
00:05:15catastrophe for his party the CDU, but who
00:05:18remains in
00:05:19power.
00:05:22And Fredrich Mertz, he waited a very long time before becoming chancellor,
00:05:26it was his dream for several decades, he is very keen on power,
00:05:29I think he also has in mind the reforms he wants to carry out,
00:05:33so he will do everything to stay in power in my opinion, will
00:05:37he succeed, that's another question because
00:05:40he has an internal cohesion problem within the CDU
00:05:44uh and it's going to become more and more difficult, he has parties on the right wing of the
00:05:48des des des des people on the right wing of the CDU who would like to ally with
00:05:51the AFD, so break the cordon sanitaire with the AFD,
00:05:55others for whom it's absolutely excluded and that's the official party line today,
00:05:59so the internal cohesion of the Christian Democrats is really
00:06:03undermined and he's going to have a lot of trouble in the coming
00:06:06weeks to maintain all that and also his
00:06:09legitimacy is a bit hampered. because the CDU has a
00:06:13catastrophic score, so even if it's just one region, it's not all
00:06:17of Germany, it has a catastrophic score in
00:06:20Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, so there you go, that's still
00:06:24it, obviously that also affects his legitimacy, it's his
00:06:27party, there's also an anti-merz vote in there, you say
00:06:31that he wants to continue his reforms, but has he heard the
00:06:35message addressed by the voters who voted for
00:06:38the AFD, by the way, what is that message?
00:06:43Well, I don't know if we can call it a message, there are several messages for
00:06:47me, which are first of all, it has effectively a
00:06:50message against the government, therefore an
00:06:53dissatisfaction with the fact that life is becoming more expensive, salaries
00:06:57are not keeping up, uh it's really becoming, well,
00:07:01that's one of the consequences of the inflation
00:07:04that was very high in Germany following the rupture
00:07:07of, well, the fact that we refused Russian gas
00:07:11which was a cheap
00:07:14inflation, created economic difficulties, so there's an economic
00:07:17dissatisfaction, there's also in
00:07:22historical factors,
00:07:25I think there's a bit of a revenge
00:07:28created collective injustices at the time of German
00:07:32reunification, and so there's also this message of "we want to count, we want to
00:07:36take back control, take back the narrative about our history and we want, we don't
00:07:40want to blindly follow what we're told to do", I think there's also
00:07:44that dimension, uh, there you go, that's
00:07:48that's the messages that are, there's a lack of social recognition, there are injustices that
00:07:51continue to this day, and
00:07:54the AFD benefits from that, instrumentalizes that, I
00:07:57would also like to ask you to react to another victory, that of the left,
00:08:00called radical in Berlin, that too, is
00:08:04the victory of a populism,
00:08:07Well, that's
00:08:10nothing like it in my opinion, it's
00:08:14uh it's not a victory, well, the Dilink party has
00:08:18always been quite strong in
00:08:21Berlin and conversely the AFD is one of the places where it has difficulty
00:08:25establishing itself because Berlin is a very
00:08:28open, very cosmopolitan city,
00:08:31well, the sociology of Berlin also makes it more difficult for the
00:08:34AFD. Linke is a party
00:08:38well it's a party that has experienced turbulence recently
00:08:41uh notably a part of well it
00:08:45has a part detached from Linke to
00:08:49form the Arawagen alliance which itself is a populist party yes
00:08:53with also an anti-immigrant nationalist pro-Russian rhetoric but Linke we
00:08:56can't really say that about Linke, I
00:09:00wouldn't talk about left populism for Linke, it's a party to the
00:09:04left of the social democrats
00:09:06so a party well that wants to govern to the
00:09:10left. and that has just done very well, so
00:09:14the challenge now will be to see if they manage to ally with the
00:09:17social democrats and the greens to govern, that would
00:09:20mean that they would have a minister president from this
00:09:24left-wing Linke in Berlin. Thank you, thank
00:09:28you very much Elisa Goudin Steinm for this
00:09:31clarification, this image now of Emmanuel Macron in
00:09:35the company of Canadian Prime Minister Marc Carney, it's happening on
00:09:38the French archipelago of Saint-Pierre and Miquelon. Located off the coast of Canada, the two
00:09:42men say they want to strengthen ties between their two countries, especially on security and energy
00:09:46issues, let's listen to Emmanuel Macron.
00:09:50several approaches, but what we have mainly decided is
00:09:54that together we will, in close
00:09:57liaison with the community and
00:10:00its elected officials, ask our two
00:10:02governments to
00:10:05work
00:10:07towards a deep rapprochement between our two countries in terms of
00:10:10fishing, in terms of... security and common
00:10:13missions in terms of energy, in all
00:10:16areas where we can find an agenda that
00:10:19is positive for Canada
00:10:22and for France, that is relevant
00:10:25for Saint-Pierre and Miquelon and for your country.
00:10:29In Russia, Vladimir Putin's party, United Russia, was unsurprisingly declared the winner
00:10:33of the legislative elections held this weekend, an election marked by
00:10:36numerous Ukrainian drone attacks and cyberattacks.
00:10:39Axel Simon and Jules Boiteau.
00:10:43According to the mayor of Moscow, it is an unprecedented Ukrainian
00:10:46offensive. The Russian capital and its region have been targeted by
00:10:50several hundred Ukrainian drones, and if most have been
00:10:53intercepted. several escaped Russian anti-aircraft
00:10:57defenses and notably struck
00:11:01the capital or this oil refinery,
00:11:04other devices fell in this residential district of Sofino in the
00:11:08Moscow region, causing casualties and significant
00:11:10damage.
00:11:14I was coming out of my building, I had walked about twenty steps from the entrance when
00:11:17the explosion went off, the windows shattered, people started screaming,
00:11:21I turned around, the entrance doors had been blown away.
00:11:55aimed at disrupting the conduct of the election in the
00:11:58Kherson region in southern Ukraine controlled by
00:12:01Russia, a drone notably killed several people including an
00:12:05employee of the electoral commission. More
00:12:10the large-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, in a
00:12:13context of repression of all forms of opposition, Vladimir
00:12:17Putin's party was unsurprisingly announced as the winner of the election
00:12:21on Sunday evening.
00:12:25It's now time for your flashback, back to
00:12:281945 when the Second World War was drawing to a close, thousands
00:12:34launch their planes at enemy warships, notably American ones,
00:12:38resulting in more than 10,000 people killed, pilots or
00:12:41sailors, our reporter Melody Sforza went to
00:12:45meet one of the last Japanese Kamikaze pilots still alive.
00:12:48At full speed, a Japanese
00:13:09plane rushes towards an American
00:13:12warship.
00:13:15Kamikaze, in Japanese, means divine
00:13:19wind, but for 80 years and for the whole world, the word
00:13:22remains associated with Japanese pilots. who crashed their
00:13:26planes into American ships, it was at
00:13:29the very end of the Second World War, a desperate
00:13:32strategy as American troops advanced and Japanese
00:13:36forces were exhausted, thousands of young pilots, averaging
00:13:3921 years old, received the order to voluntarily launch
00:13:43their planes loaded with explosives onto warships and at
00:13:47sea the water is fortunately inexhaustible, the damaged
00:13:50but not destroyed ship will be able to return to a port where it will heal
00:13:54its burns. It is estimated that about 3800
00:13:57pilots thus gave their lives and that they managed to kill more than
00:14:017000 Allied sailors as well as sinking several dozen warships.
00:14:05The pilots were at the time elevated by Japanese
00:14:08propaganda to the rank of gods of war. More
00:14:12than 80 years later, the memory of the Kamikaze divides Japanese
00:14:15society. For some they remain heroes
00:14:19who died for their country. For others, they are above all the symbol of Japan's
00:14:23militaristic past. a return ticket to the memory of the
00:14:27kamikazes, this is a report by Alexie Bréger, Hayana
00:14:30Nishikawa and Melody
00:14:32Sforza.
00:14:39This path Kunitake Toriya knows by heart.
00:14:42On the eve of his 100th birthday,
00:14:45he walks it every morning to keep
00:14:48fit.
00:14:49He is. The old man is a
00:14:54former Kamikaze
00:14:56pilot.
00:15:05His life played out in a plane, a plane
00:15:08that by chance he never
00:15:10took.
00:15:18One day, the director of our training school gave a
00:15:22us: among the 500 students present. Only 10 to
00:15:2620% would be truly useful, he repeated incessantly
00:15:29that we were material that is used and
00:15:32replaced. We were prepared for
00:15:34death.
00:15:39With his pilot's diploma in hand, Kinitake was sent to
00:15:42Manchuria, a territory in northeastern China
00:15:45occupied by the Japanese
00:15:47army. In the autumn of
00:15:501944, the imperial army was at its
00:15:53wits' end, nothing seemed to stop the advance of the
00:15:57allies. The archipelago then ordered suicide
00:16:00attacks against American ships,
00:16:04a show of honor to terrorize the enemy.
00:16:10an officer stood on a platform and
00:16:12said: those whose names will be
00:16:14called,
00:16:21my eyes, I saw that the legs of my comrades
00:16:24trembled,
00:16:29me too, for us, it was like the announcement of a
00:16:32condemnation.
00:16:38Kunitake watches his brothers in arms leave one after another,
00:16:41he waits with fear in his
00:16:44stomach, in the spring of
00:16:471945, he in turn receives his mission
00:16:51order and trains for months, diving
00:16:54at 1500 m with sometimes 100 kg
00:16:58of explosives on board his plane,
00:17:01but as his deployment approaches, Japan
00:17:05capitulates.
00:17:11We shouted banzai but not too loudly, out of respect for
00:17:14those who had left before us, no one
00:17:17wanted to die, 99% left by
00:17:21plane because it was an order, they had no
00:17:24other choice, we could not say
00:17:27no.
00:17:28at the end of the
00:17:33war,
00:17:37taken prisoner by the Soviets, he spends almost 2 years in
00:17:40captivity, on his return to Japan, he
00:17:44marries and starts a family, two children including his youngest
00:17:47son, with whom he lives
00:17:49today.
00:17:55In the Japanese archipelago, Kunitaki is one of the last Kamikaze
00:17:59pilots still alive, but he doesn't forget his comrades
00:18:02who fell in battle.
00:18:04Regularly, he comes to pay tribute to them in this museum.
00:18:40"If I could talk to them, I would tell them: "don't move,
00:18:44I'll join you soon", and they would undoubtedly
00:18:48reply: "Look how old
00:18:50you've gotten, you've become an old
00:18:52man",
00:18:56yes, because they died very
00:18:58young".
00:19:07Japanese lives were lost in these suicide attacks, killing
00:19:117,000 Allied sailors and destroying 50 American
00:19:14ships.
00:19:18before leaving, Kunitake greets an old friend, it was
00:19:22aboard this plane that he trained more than 80
00:19:25years ago, for a flight from which he should not have
00:19:28returned.
00:19:35I composed a poem.
00:19:38I came back to see you my love,
00:19:41even if you, the Type 97 fighter plane
00:19:44are nothing but a carcass.
00:19:47Every time I stand before you, my dear fighter
00:19:50plane, I instantly become a 20-year-old
00:19:53young
00:19:54man.
00:20:01museums dedicated to the history of the Kamikaze, there are
00:20:0515 throughout the archipelago.
00:20:09Most are located in Kyushu, in southern Japan,
00:20:13the starting point for thousands of young soldiers for their last
00:20:16flight.
00:20:20Takeshi Kawatoko is a tour guide at the most important
00:20:23museum in the country built
00:20:26on the site of a former training center for Kamikaze
00:20:28pilots.
00:20:40Here, some rooms have been recreated identically,
00:20:42like this room where the young aviators
00:20:46slept.
00:20:5617 years to my grandfather to my grandmother,
00:21:00I was very capricious, I caused you a lot of trouble,
00:21:04forgive me,
00:21:06this time, your grandson is sent to defeat the
00:21:09demons, if I come back, it will surely
00:21:13be with Roosevelt's head, I
00:21:16must go, please, good health.
00:21:42As a guide, it is my duty to best convey
00:21:46the facts concerning the soldiers, but also what they had in their hearts.
00:21:51the feelings that animated them,
00:21:54according to the letters, their priority was to perfectly accomplish their
00:21:57mission, to hit an enemy American
00:22:00ship and sink it, they had a strong determination to
00:22:04accomplish this
00:22:05duty,
00:22:08yet these letters only tell a part of the story, none
00:22:12mention the fear of death or the refusal to leave, the
00:22:16pilots knew they would be re-read because from 1944.
00:22:20the imperial army censored their writings, propaganda was
00:22:24omnipresent, the kamikazes were elevated to war
00:22:27heroes, the supreme symbol of the warrior ready to die for
00:22:30the emperor.
00:22:34so that this episode of Japanese history is never forgotten, the museum
00:22:38regularly hosts middle school classes, like
00:22:41today.
00:22:58the fact that the Kamikaze pilots lost their lives when they were almost the
00:23:02same age as us moved me deeply.
00:23:05We have deeply engraved in our hearts how precious peace
00:23:08is. We commit ourselves not to keep this
00:23:12teaching to ourselves and to transmit it to future
00:23:15generations.
00:23:51the idea of giving one's life for others, for society or for the country was
00:23:55much stronger.
00:23:55I understood with what
00:23:59ready to risk their lives to the end, that determination,
00:24:04made me realize once again the horror of
00:24:08war.
00:24:09I never want to find myself in the same
00:24:13situation,
00:24:14so that never happens, I want
00:24:17to participate in the creation of peace in the
00:24:21world.
00:24:28after the war, the United States imposed a pacifist
00:24:32constitution on Japan. Little
00:24:34by little, military commemorations were neglected in a country
00:24:38that struggled to confront the violence committed by its army in
00:24:42Asia.
00:24:48But today.
00:24:58Hello, I'm glad to
00:25:01see
00:25:06you, number 1, it must be placed here at the
00:25:09temple,
00:25:13I think,
00:25:17prepares the 75th ceremony of tribute to the kamikaze. which will take place in a few
00:25:21days, she is the granddaughter of a
00:25:24vice-admiral of the Imperial Japanese Navy, one of
00:25:28the officers who sent these young men on suicide
00:25:31missions.
00:25:35Sonoi dedicated her life to honoring their memory as if to
00:25:39atone for her grandfather's mistakes.
00:25:42She remembers the first time she discovered the story of the Kamikaze
00:25:45pilots. It was in a sanctuary in Tokyo, there
00:25:49are photos and dolls dressed as
00:25:52brides,
00:25:56I remember, I was very impressed by
00:25:58her,
00:26:01my father told me, These are the mothers of the Kamikaze
00:26:04pilots who created these dolls dressed as brides for their
00:26:07sons who were going to die,
00:26:11all the feelings of these mothers are
00:26:13inside,
00:26:16hearing that, even as a child,
00:26:19I started to
00:26:20cry.
00:26:30The following week, we meet again.
00:27:03and left with the goal of sacrificing their lives,
00:27:06that's why it's very important for me to honor
00:27:09them.
00:27:1581 years later, tensions are reviving in
00:27:18Asia and to defend peace, Sonoi believes that
00:27:22the remilitarization of Japan is
00:27:24inevitable.
00:27:27If society is divided on the question, Kunitaki, our
00:27:31former Kamikaze, does not understand this
00:27:34rearmament,
00:27:39with his son, they like to discuss sports and politics, the topic of the
00:27:43day, the increase in Japan's military
00:27:45budget,
00:27:53with my father, we often wonder if it's worth spending so much
00:27:56money on the armed forces,
00:27:59increasing the defense budget essentially assumes
00:28:03that a war is conceivable, even if it's not about directly
00:28:07attacking a country, but simply strengthening our military
00:28:10capabilities to protect ourselves, it is still
00:28:13linked to
00:28:15war.
00:28:21the former Kamikaze is worried to see history repeat itself: more
00:28:24than 80 years after the war, Japan
00:28:27increased its military budget by 65% in just
00:28:315 years. a record since
00:28:331945,
00:28:36the country that had made pacifism the cornerstone of its
00:28:39reconstruction seems today to turn its back on this heritage.
00:30:0710:30 p.m. in Paris, back to the essentials, we continue with
00:30:10the news of this Sunday: in Yemen, the tools report
00:30:1328 Saudi strikes carried out against areas they control, they
00:30:17come the day after the attack they themselves carried out against
00:30:20Riyadh, civilians are caught in the fighting,
00:30:23listen to these testimonies from displaced people in Yemen, they are
00:30:26among the 11,000 people who have been forced to flee the
00:30:30war.
00:30:38We hope that God will put the country back on the right path, that normal life will return to us and
00:30:42that we will be able to return home safely and reassured, away
00:30:46aggression, far from the difficulties we are currently
00:30:49experiencing.
00:30:53We are exhausted by the planes bombing us day and night,
00:30:57and we have not had a moment of respite but that...
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